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Speaker 2: So we've heard the story of the age Ol store

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Speaker 2: about renters the landlords, and there's an effort to reduce

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Speaker 2: repeat emergency calls to rental properties. And you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: there are properties out there and people renting that are nuisance.

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Speaker 2: At least in Kentucky, common sense is king because they're

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Speaker 2: they're proposing a law which would address chronic nuisance occurrences

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Speaker 2: at rental properties. A three strikes in your outlaw and on.

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Speaker 2: That is Boon County Commissioner Jesse Brewer working with State REPTJ.

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Speaker 2: Roberts in Northern Kentucky for house spilled three three seven

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Speaker 2: that would do just this. Jesse, welcome, how you been?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm great, Thank you. Thanks for venting me on

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Speaker 3: to Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. All right, give me the details of though,

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Speaker 2: First of all, why is this needed? How big a

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Speaker 2: problem are the nuisance tenants in Northern Kentucky and Boone County?

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Speaker 1: So well, it's not just Boone County, it's everywhere.

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 1: It's any area where you have rental property. What if

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Speaker 1: you get someone that's excessively abusing public services. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're this is for the person that plays for a

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Speaker 1: radio two loud all the time, or maybe partaking in

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Speaker 1: some substances they shouldn't partake in. The neighbors smell it

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Speaker 1: and complain or whatever the case may be, what they

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Speaker 3: Someone calls nine to one.

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Speaker 1: One, the police have to go out there, The paramedics

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Speaker 1: have to go out there for whatever reason, and also

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Speaker 1: not taking away from their job of what they should

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Speaker 1: matter what, because what if it's that one time.

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Speaker 3: There is really a problem, right, so they.

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Speaker 1: Got to respond well after they do this so many times,

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Speaker 1: the cities in counties two where they can tell the

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Speaker 1: property owner, hey, we got a problem here at this property.

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Speaker 3: We've been here x y z times. Okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a tenant in a building in

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Speaker 1: the city in Kenton County and I think the police

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Speaker 1: he would just went and put playing a stereo loud

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Speaker 1: came to me and said, hey, you gotta do something

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Speaker 1: about this or you're gonna to start finding you. Well,

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Speaker 1: under current law, if a tenants paying their rent, you

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Speaker 1: can't just give them a seven day nose to vacate

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Speaker 1: for non payment of rent. I know Ohio is three day,

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Speaker 1: but in Kentucky at seven, you can't just give them

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Speaker 1: a seven day non non payment notice. You gotta file

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Speaker 1: thirty day eviction notice. You gotta file thirty day notice

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Speaker 1: to vacate.

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Speaker 3: Then you can to victim.

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Speaker 1: So don't give me dinner for two to three months. Well,

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Speaker 1: what House Bill three thirty seven will do is it

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Speaker 1: will allow us to shorten that length and that notice period,

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Speaker 1: shorten that up, allowing to get them out quicker the

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Speaker 1: nu sense, which is or less of austraight on public services.

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Speaker 1: The property owner can then maybe get a tenant in

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Speaker 1: there that's a good community member. Lower their costs, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you got a person that's doing this things tearing

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Speaker 1: the place up. Lower my cost I lower my operating costs,

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Speaker 1: I lower my housing costs. Housing gets cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that makes sense. Let me see. Let

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Speaker 2: me play devil's advocate for just a second. I like

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Speaker 2: being the devil's advocate here. This happened in Ohio years

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Speaker 2: ago when we had when gun crimes are starting to,

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Speaker 2: Seems kind of quaint to think that wasn't a case.

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Speaker 2: But they decided, hey, we're going to sue gun man

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Speaker 2: if we're going after gun manufacture. And the defense was, well,

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Speaker 2: you know what, why are you soon as well? Because

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Speaker 2: the cost police fire, emergency responders and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's a fall of the gun wind up happening. He said, well, no,

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Speaker 2: that's why police fire and MS exists is in order

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Speaker 2: to do that. You can't sue someone for doing their

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Speaker 2: job in that case. Does that apply here in that Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it might be a nuisance and it's training resources. But

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Speaker 2: police fire and MS exists to respond in this case

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Speaker 2: nuisance tentence. Police exists to respond to things like that

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Speaker 2: as part of their job description. Is that an affirmable defense?

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Speaker 1: It could be, but then they're going to look to

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Speaker 1: you as a property owner because they have ordinances and

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Speaker 1: they're folks to say, you have a problem ten here

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Speaker 1: that's creating and creating us to be called come here

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Speaker 1: too much, stucking up too much resources, and we're going

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Speaker 3: Much, got it because so it's I.

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Speaker 1: Feel what you're saying on that. But with the ordinance

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Speaker 1: and laws are in the books, we are kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because because then I could I could turn that

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Speaker 2: if we're making multiple runs to the same place over

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Speaker 2: and over and over again, could that not apply to

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Speaker 2: I don't know, a sports stadium. Could that un apply

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Speaker 2: fire and mess. Okay, there's a nursing home there where

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Speaker 2: medical emergencies as it comes with old age. But no

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Speaker 2: one would agree that, hey, you know what, we should

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Speaker 2: target a nursing home because of all the response calls

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Speaker 2: we have there because they're abusing the system.

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Speaker 1: Correct, and that's where the abuse is the system going

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Speaker 1: to come in. As a specific person, if you have

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Speaker 1: of different people, different issues, or they're legitimate medical burgencies.

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Speaker 1: And again, this doesn't get triggered unless the city or

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Speaker 1: the municipalities cite the property of yeah so. And they're

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Speaker 1: not going to do that unless it's a legitimate abusive resource.

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Speaker 1: If it's the legitarison to be there, they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: that's those triggers wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Got it, got it?

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Speaker 2: And in Cincinnati, I don't know if it's changed since

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Speaker 2: or not. I don't own proper to Cincinnati, but for

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Speaker 2: a while they were talking, Hey, you know what, if

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Speaker 2: you've got a you know, a tenant that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: After a couple occurrences, we're going to start finding the landlord.

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Speaker 2: I go, wait a minute, now, if I've got a

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Speaker 2: grown ass adult living in one of my units, am

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Speaker 2: I responsible to drive by several times a day to

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Speaker 2: make sure that individuals not playing their music loud or

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Speaker 2: smoking weed in the yard or doing it? And of

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Speaker 2: course not that that's not that, not that's not the landlord.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with you at all, and but they

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Speaker 1: if they own their own house, so you start signing

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Speaker 1: fighting in Yeah, exactly, they said.

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Speaker 3: The police sources said, yeah, we will. There's orgiousness for that.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, I'm I supposed to say.

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Speaker 2: That because the people who are irresponsible we won't hold accountable.

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Speaker 2: We'll account the typical in America, the people who are

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Speaker 2: responsible accountable. We're going to hold them responsible as opposed

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Speaker 2: to the people are even though they're all adults. I

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Speaker 2: can see it doing for a kid, but these are

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Speaker 2: grown adults correct.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of times when the first responders in

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Speaker 1: the cities don't necessarily understand how landlord tenant law works,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, get this person out of here, let's

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Speaker 1: do process. I gotta give them a thirty day notice.

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Speaker 1: I gotta wait for this, I gotta you know, there's

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Speaker 1: ideally this would allow us to identify the problem that

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Speaker 1: save resources, preserve property. You know, if I got a tenant,

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Speaker 1: that's just junking up the yard and jumping dunk junk

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Speaker 1: that a rich Yeah, this way I can streak like,

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Speaker 1: get get the streak the problem, lower my cost, get

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Speaker 2: Everyone wins and it's good for the neighbor's day. If

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Speaker 2: you you know the other thing Jesse Brewer by their

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Speaker 2: Boone County Commissioner on this three strikes you're out law

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Speaker 2: that's being proposed in Kentucky, meaning that if police have

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Speaker 2: multiple calls, we'll get the details of that. A second,

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Speaker 2: multiple calls to a rental property. Uh, you can, as

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Speaker 2: a landlord evict that person that that holds them accountable

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Speaker 2: was is all right, we're going to go after the landlord.

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Speaker 2: If it's a new sentenant. Okay, well can I victim?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no no, no, that's that's damn near

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Speaker 2: impossible to kick these people out because you know, you

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Speaker 2: got to go to court as a whole. Probably we

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, hold on just a second. Here, this

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Speaker 2: is Jesse. I like you because your common sense kind

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Speaker 2: of guy like me. This is just damn common sense.

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Speaker 2: Get into the details exactly, Yeah, get in the details

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Speaker 2: of what the triggers for this eviction would be.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, birst of all, it starts with if people

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Speaker 3: Right If people just do the right.

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Speaker 1: then you wouldn't have any issues. But this is designed

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Speaker 1: for you know, you got someone that's likes to put

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Speaker 3: I had this happen to me. Well, city site you

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Speaker 3: as they rightfully should.

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Speaker 1: I get that. Okay, they're gonna side. If you can't

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Speaker 3: Get this.

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Speaker 1: You know, after about three or four of those, you

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Speaker 1: Or you get another person that you know they like

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Speaker 1: neighbors are constantly calling the police. Well, if they shove

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Speaker 1: they will send you a love note that says we're

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Speaker 3: Mister property owner.

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Speaker 1: You need to get your tenant community orders rules in line.

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Speaker 1: So there's some layers that have to happen here. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is the problem. They give you the notice. Then

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Speaker 2: So you have to have what three three strikes in

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Speaker 2: a would you say, six month period.

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Speaker 3: That's not the current that's how it is currently written.

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Speaker 1: But it's a lot of stiff falled discretion to when

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Speaker 2: What about an element of discrimination here in a sense

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Speaker 2: the neighbor you do that? How do we know that

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Speaker 2: those are legitimate calls for service and complaints as opposed

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Speaker 3: And that's a good point that's too to be worked out.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's the spirit of the law would be

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Speaker 3: Types of things.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know you still have everyone still have the

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Speaker 1: And if you're you know, spare housing has a lot

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could always find your neighbor doing something

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Speaker 2: They're vindictive, they got nothing better to do. I've seen

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Speaker 2: it happen. I'm sure you've seen it happen with with

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be where they have to have a

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Speaker 1: valid nuisance violations, not something that's what you suggested.

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Speaker 3: What would that that's something of.

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Speaker 2: It, Jesse Burr. Would domestic violence calls be excluded from this?

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Speaker 1: I hope so, And that's something I would hope so

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Speaker 1: because that's a safety issue, right, I would definitely hope

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Speaker 1: I believe that's what would be need to be excluded

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Speaker 3: Domestic violence called absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Boon County Commissioner Jessee Brewer on the Scotsland Show seven

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Speaker 2: That would create a three strikes and out rule for

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Speaker 2: chronic nuisance tenants. So if you get three service calls

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Speaker 2: you get eighteen noise complaints, as you said, you should

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Speaker 2: get run off and it gives three days notice for

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Speaker 2: those people who are using a lot of the resources.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned this about saving money and allocate proper allocation resources.

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Speaker 2: There's overtime costs, there's equipment where how how big a

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Speaker 2: problem is this really? How many nuisance tenants are there?

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Speaker 2: It is it a huge problem or the Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: It's enough where we're talking about it, right, it's one

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Speaker 1: of it's one of those issues. Is it Is it

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Speaker 1: detrimental to the business. No? Uh, but this would just

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Speaker 1: prevent a problem. Yes, it's the problem. It's not that

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of these problems, but when you

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Speaker 1: So you know, if I have one hundred tenants, you know,

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Speaker 3: But when you start multiplying.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, across all the rental proper and everything

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Speaker 1: you have ten thousand pieces of rental property nation of city.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of services on a police department, fire

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Speaker 2: Not much of a deal at the Northern Kentucky University

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Speaker 1: Campus, it could be a little different. So I get

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Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be the triggering of the calls

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Speaker 1: those cities already have ordinances in place, and what they're

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Speaker 1: going to do is they still if you have a problem,

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Speaker 3: This isn't like there's so many If I.

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Speaker 1: Have a nuisancee problem today right now on the current law,

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Speaker 3: So I have it just takes me.

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Speaker 1: Thirty days to get them out and then I know

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Speaker 1: thirty days. Interesting in theory, if I can get them

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Speaker 3: It may not get through this year.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times in legislation like this comes up

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Speaker 1: It might come back next year looking a little different.

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Speaker 1: But the conversation starts the committee meeting here you can

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Speaker 1: start on any legislation that you've got to get it introduced.

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Speaker 1: get something push No. Entucky is the Kentucky is the

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Speaker 1: budget year. It's our bi annual Kentucky. We do the

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Speaker 1: Got filed, right so there's a lot of other joh,

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Speaker 1: stay higher priorities for legislators rightfully, so they know we

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Speaker 1: heard and talked about isn't really brought and center. It's

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Speaker 1: problem for you know, police, fire and cities. So but

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Speaker 1: it could get talked about, expand upon and move along

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Speaker 1: the typeline.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but there's certain priorities. There's only so.

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Speaker 1: Much time to day for these legislators. That's issues, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get to get to it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Jesse Brewer Boone County Commission. Always a pleasure

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Speaker 2: having you on and something to think about, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting. I want to follow this one

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Speaker 2: it makes sense. I think you can't force someone to

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Speaker 2: be a good neighbor, but the law should be able

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Speaker 2: to help you this one. It's good for the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: It's good you think anyway, Jesse, all the best, Thanks

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Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate you have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you too, be well are you doing in your

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Speaker 2: brackets so far? I'm actually not bad. I'm like eighty

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Speaker 2: something percent, eighty five eighty I forget what it is.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State and a couple others got me. But but

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Speaker 2: the good news is some of the dogs I got those,

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Speaker 2: so I'm feeling pretty good today. At four twenty five,

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Speaker 2: it is Miami and number six Tennessee. The play in

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Speaker 2: Darlings take on Tennessee. I got, I got the RedHawks,

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Speaker 2: and I'm betting with my head, not my heart. I

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Speaker 2: I got it they can beat Tennessee. We'll find out today.

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Speaker 2: And if you're looking for place to hang, if you're

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Speaker 2: Miami supporter, grad alone, whatever, Holy Grail Banks today they'll

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Speaker 2: have them. The doors open, the beer flowing, the nice

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Speaker 2: warm weather blowing in, and you can watch any one

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Speaker 2: of the sixteen matchups today at Holy Grail Banks, but

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Speaker 2: especially in Miami later on today. Scott's Loan Show continues

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