WEBVTT - 11-27-25 Ken Broo in for Scott Sloan

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be an American idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, on this stay to day, nobody wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>an American idiot. Well, I guess you could be an

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<v Speaker 2>American idiot. You're probably an American idiot last night. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there was a pretty good chance last night was

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<v Speaker 2>the big drinking night of the year. Did you become

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<v Speaker 2>an idiot on the day before Thanksgiving? One would hope not. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have this radio station and this program is

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<v Speaker 2>open to you as well, open to all comers as

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<v Speaker 2>you like, welcome and for Scott Sloan today, I am

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Brew. Great to have you with us as we

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<v Speaker 2>get ready for hopefully a gathering of family and friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this is a tough day if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have family. This is a very tough day if you've

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<v Speaker 2>lost a loved one in the last year. And I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose it's a little bit different if your family is

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<v Speaker 2>with you and you can gather with friends. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot be known too that we are thinking of you,

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<v Speaker 2>we are thinking of you. I don't laugh. In the

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<v Speaker 2>last half hour, when Steve Hawkins played the Turkey Drop,

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<v Speaker 2>the clip from the WKRP episode all those years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>less Nessman who I actually got to interview. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>got to interview less Nessman when I was working in Tulsa, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the late seventies. Just a really, really nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He was out there promoting the series WKRP. But I

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<v Speaker 2>often wondered if the inspiration for that, for that Turkey

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<v Speaker 2>Drop episode was something that I was involved in fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Fifty years ago. Now, if you're old enough

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<v Speaker 2>to remember this, maybe you can recall a hockey team

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<v Speaker 2>that played in this town called the Cincinnati Stingers. They

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<v Speaker 2>were in the WAJ for about four years and then

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<v Speaker 2>when the WAJ at least four of their teams were

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<v Speaker 2>assimilated into the National Hockey League, the Stingers folded. Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough season tickets sold to impress the National Hockey League,

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<v Speaker 2>so they folded.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty years ago, on the twenty second, which would have

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<v Speaker 2>been fifty years ago, last sets Saturday night, that the

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<v Speaker 2>Stingers played Quebec, the Quebec Nord Deeks at what was

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<v Speaker 2>then known as Riverfront Colisseum, and they had a giveaway

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<v Speaker 2>and the giveaway was one hundred lucky fans had tickets

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<v Speaker 2>taped to the bottom of their seat to get a

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<v Speaker 2>free frozen turkey from Kroger. There were another ten fans

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<v Speaker 2>who had lucky tickets to get a live turkey, and

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<v Speaker 2>the live turkeys were released on the ice at Riverfront Colisseum,

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<v Speaker 2>and then those ten lucky folks were given a sack

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<v Speaker 2>each one a sack, a Burlaps sack to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and get the turkey and put the turkey in the

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<v Speaker 2>sack and haul it off. And I'm guessing there was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody there to take care of the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff so they could have the turkey for Thanksgiving Day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a promotion the team did. It did

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<v Speaker 2>not go well. All of the live turkeys huddled in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner of Riverfront Colisseum. I don't know how Peta

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get done this one, but that was fifty years

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<v Speaker 2>ago today, and I often wondered if the folks that

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<v Speaker 2>wrote the episode for a WKRP that aired on October thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy eight. It was a guy by the name

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<v Speaker 2>of Bill Dile and then the series creator Hugh Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>They wrote the episode. I often wondered if there was

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<v Speaker 2>any inspiration from that incident at Riverfront Coliseum WKRPI. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to work with a guy that wrote an episode

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<v Speaker 2>for WKRP in Cincinnati. Years ago. I worked at WSAI

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<v Speaker 2>and they had an evening disc jockey by the name

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<v Speaker 2>of Casey Petrowski, who was a really creative guy. Wound

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<v Speaker 2>up going to Hollywood and appeared in several a television

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<v Speaker 2>show series show. He was in Firefly and wrote an

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<v Speaker 2>episode for WKRC. I'm WKRP in Cincinnati, terrific voice over actor,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's a little WKRP history. But I often wondered

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<v Speaker 2>if that episode was inspired by what happened fifty years

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<v Speaker 2>ago last Saturday Night at the Riverfront Coliseum. Well tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and what's happening now tonight? Joe Burrow is back as

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals go out to Baltimore and take on the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are still some folks who think the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>have a smidgeon of hope of making the NFL playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have to go on the mother of all

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<v Speaker 2>winning streaks. They've only won three of their first eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>But nevertheless, Burrow is back and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are questioning, why would you come back, Joe? They're three

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<v Speaker 2>and eleven chances of making the playoffs not good? Why

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<v Speaker 2>not just you know, fold it for this year and

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<v Speaker 2>come back stronger in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm healthy, but I don't think I don't think I

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<v Speaker 4>should go out there and play. It doesn't make a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of sense to me. I'm not gonna live my

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<v Speaker 4>life and play this game scared of something happening, like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>something's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>It's football.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys are gonna get hurt, Guys are gonna get concussions.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna break bones, tear ligaments. It's a physical, intense game.

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<v Speaker 4>That's part of this. And yeah, I've had injuries. There's

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<v Speaker 4>not a lot I can do about that. I work

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<v Speaker 4>really hard to have that not happen. But what I

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<v Speaker 4>can do is when it does happen, I can control

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<v Speaker 4>how I'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and doing

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<v Speaker 4>everything in my power to get back as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving Night in Baltimore against the Ravens and right here

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<v Speaker 2>on seven hundred W WELW. So what is waiting on

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals when they get out there? What kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens team is it? Well, it's a Ravens team that's

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<v Speaker 2>red hot. They've won five in a row and they're

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<v Speaker 2>automatically back in the conversation for an AFC North tidle.

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<v Speaker 2>They're tied with Pittsburgh right now. Covering the Ravens for

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<v Speaker 2>their official website Ravens dot Com. Is a good guest

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<v Speaker 2>of the program I do on Sunday mornings here on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred wyl W. He is Clifton Brown, Clifton, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you on this glorious Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing fine. Can happy Thanksgiving to you and everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely right back at you, my man, right back at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like having to work on Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, you know how.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we do. And the Ravens caught the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, and I don't think it's any secret the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why the Ravens hit that swoon is because Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>missed three games. He's back now. I guess there's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's a toe injury that's popped up, so this will

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<v Speaker 2>be the toe bowl U in this game tonight. But

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<v Speaker 2>is that serious? Is anybody looking at his his toe

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<v Speaker 2>injury as being anything that's serious?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, they keep Lamar tell thing undergrapped as

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<v Speaker 6>much as they can.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't usually say much, does the of the excuse,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I mean I think that he has learned.

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<v Speaker 6>This year, for sure, more about trying to play and

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<v Speaker 6>playing effectively when he's not one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had an ankle issue, he's had a knee issue.

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<v Speaker 6>He's missed a day of practice the last two weeks

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<v Speaker 6>before this week. So yeah, this is kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>getting to be the norm that you know, he's figuring

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<v Speaker 6>out that, Okay, I probably need to get a little

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<v Speaker 6>more rest during the week. You know, on game day

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<v Speaker 6>I could be effective. And so far he's definitely been

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<v Speaker 6>effective enough for them to keep winning playing through any

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<v Speaker 6>of injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not and I think this is understandable, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not really running as much as he did before the

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<v Speaker 2>hamstering injury. And I think the thing he got away is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's an older player now with Tina

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<v Speaker 2>tend to think of Lamar Jackson as being this this

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<v Speaker 2>youthful guy. And even though football players to you and

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<v Speaker 2>me look young and youthful, he's he's a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he had the hamsterring injury. But he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be running as much. Are those Are those

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<v Speaker 2>the contributing factors?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that that they all are chidectic.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, the hamster, I think it's been the biggest

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<v Speaker 6>fact that you know, he missed three games, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 6>and hamstring's a tricky even after you start healing, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's easy to re injure them. So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>him running less is a natural evolution. I think of

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<v Speaker 6>his career, he's become such a great pop passer.

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<v Speaker 3>From the pocket. He doesn't have to run.

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<v Speaker 6>As much as he did earlier in his career to

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<v Speaker 6>win games, and I don't think he wants to run

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<v Speaker 6>as much. And then, of course, you know, getting Derek

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<v Speaker 6>Henry last year, I mean, why would you run so

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<v Speaker 6>much if you could just hand the ball to twenty

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<v Speaker 6>two and watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Him do his thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think Lamar though, wants people to know that,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, if he's healthy and has to run, he

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<v Speaker 6>can still do it like he always did, and that

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<v Speaker 6>may be something you see more of going down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the season. And if the Ravens do get in

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>Then I think he'll he may take the bubble wrap

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<v Speaker 6>off and really become that dynamic runner we've seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking at their offense. They're best

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<v Speaker 2>healthy as any team at this point. I mean, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see about Lamar's tow injury, but I know Rashaan Bateman

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<v Speaker 2>had an ankle problem and officially listed as questionable. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is as as this season goes. This

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<v Speaker 2>is about as healthy an offense as there is out there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean that's so much a part of things.

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<v Speaker 6>They've had a lot of injuries early in the season.

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<v Speaker 6>They were really decimated, you know, weeks four and five

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<v Speaker 6>during their losing speak and you know, you can't control that.

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<v Speaker 3>You just had the hole. That's a matter of being lucky.

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<v Speaker 6>That played into in the NFL a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>being healthy at the right time, get having enough pieces

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<v Speaker 6>to win games down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Ravens, you know, certainly are knocking on wood.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, at this point in the season heading into

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<v Speaker 6>Week thirteen, to be as healthy as they are as

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<v Speaker 6>a serious advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one reason why I think they're playing well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are. They're playing extremely well right now. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the concerns earlier this season was

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<v Speaker 2>on defense, is was getting heat on the quarterback go

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<v Speaker 2>out and they make a couple of deadline deals, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, we're genius by the front office. Draymond Jones

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<v Speaker 2>they get from the Titans already he's had an impact,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Lohai Gilman they got from the Chargers, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, that defense seemed to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get a little more juice. Now, I thought those were

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<v Speaker 2>master strokes by the front office out there. Would you

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<v Speaker 2>be on the same page with me.

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<v Speaker 3>No question.

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<v Speaker 6>They've made an immediate impact and an important one. Jones

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<v Speaker 6>he's just a baller up front as both an edge

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<v Speaker 6>rusher and he can play defensive tackle, so that versatility fit.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the way the Ravens like to play.

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<v Speaker 6>And he had a sack and a half against the

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<v Speaker 6>Cleveland Browns in their landscases.

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<v Speaker 3>Jones made an immediate impact.

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<v Speaker 6>And then Gilman, a savvy vet rarely makes mistakes. Putting

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<v Speaker 6>him next to Malachi start to safety has allowed Kyle

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<v Speaker 6>Hamilton to All Pro safety, to play three or four five, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Only he can do, you know, moving up in the box.

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<v Speaker 6>Playing linebacker inside or outside, playing defensive end, linsening, impacting.

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<v Speaker 3>The run game, and now they can turn Hamilton loose

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<v Speaker 3>because they have Gilban.

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<v Speaker 6>Yet a defense over the last five games has really

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<v Speaker 6>been one of the best in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the one thing that I noticed that it just

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<v Speaker 2>stands out and again, compared to other defenses that Baltimore's had,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not a fair comparison. They don't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be taking the ball away as much. They got seven picks,

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<v Speaker 2>seven fumble recoveries. Is that getting any play out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, again Baltimore's defense was always based on

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<v Speaker 2>aggression and getting the ball. What's going on there?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean that to me is something that is

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<v Speaker 6>changing since they started winning.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean ten of.

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<v Speaker 6>Those takeaways has come to the last five games, so

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<v Speaker 6>they've gone from getting on any takeaways in the first

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<v Speaker 6>sixty games to getting, you know, one or two a

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<v Speaker 6>game during this winning speak. And they had a huge

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<v Speaker 6>turn or takeaway last week ainst the Brown. They were

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<v Speaker 6>about to go in for touchdowns trailing by which would

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<v Speaker 6>have cut it to three in the fourth quarter, and

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<v Speaker 6>Maul and Humphrey ship the running back in two to

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<v Speaker 6>the two yard line. Gillman made the recovery and that

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<v Speaker 6>really kind of sealed the win for the Ravens. So

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<v Speaker 6>it's something that's starting to come more in budgets for them,

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<v Speaker 6>and that usually happens when you start playing good defense.

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<v Speaker 6>You have more guys around the ball. Now they're really

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<v Speaker 6>looking for that second guy in is looking for the strip,

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I think that you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>That has been a thing that you're.

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<v Speaker 6>At a defense that wasn't showing up early in the season,

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<v Speaker 6>but now it's starting to show up a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a really big stretch for the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got this game tonight with the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week, you get Pittsburgh in there, and then back

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<v Speaker 2>out here in two weeks in Cincinnati. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>division games are going to determine exactly who wins this division.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't, for the life of me for see more

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<v Speaker 2>than one team coming out of this division for the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe who knows. I mean, everybody's beating up on

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else right now. But I think it's critical if

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens are going to go and win this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>They've got to win these next three games, don't they.

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<v Speaker 6>Well yeah, I mean, you know, maybe they could lose

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<v Speaker 6>one and still get in, but certainly.

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<v Speaker 3>When you start one in five, you don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Leave yourself much room forever, and that's what the Ravens did.

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<v Speaker 6>So even though they've won five in a row, all

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<v Speaker 6>these upcoming games are still hugely important, particularly the two

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<v Speaker 6>head to head games with the Steelers. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>hard to Steelers Ravens robbery. It's so intense that it's

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<v Speaker 6>hard to get a sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if either team.

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<v Speaker 6>Gets to sleep this year to season series, that all

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<v Speaker 6>private team to win the division.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, their team has ever won the AIRC North

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<v Speaker 3>three straight years. That's what the Ravens are trying to do.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's going to be tough because of their start,

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<v Speaker 6>but at least they put themselves in position now the

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<v Speaker 6>Ravens where destiny is in their hands.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if the Ravens win their games, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the playoffs. So they don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>leave it up to anybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>It's up to them, right and certainly at this time,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, head into the last six games, this is

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<v Speaker 6>when they want to be playing their best football.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think wins the division? Clifton is it ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Does ten win it?

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<v Speaker 3>I would sign up for ten yet and take my chance.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that as long as one of in the

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<v Speaker 6>Ravens perspective, as long as one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of those ten at least one game against Pittsburgh, I

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<v Speaker 3>would sign up for that.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, again, if the Steelers sweep, to see this

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<v Speaker 6>series tans Brian not going to be enough, but yet

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<v Speaker 6>I would sign up for ten and definitely was up

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<v Speaker 6>for left.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. So you got two left with Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>got two left with Pittsburgh. We chatting with Clifton Brown

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens dot Com Joe Burrow tonight, and uh, there's great

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<v Speaker 2>debate in this town, but not only on sports talk radio,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly on social media and just the fan base

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<v Speaker 2>in general. You know, the Bengals are three and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it would be safe to say that it

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<v Speaker 2>would have to be a fortuitous long shot for them

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<v Speaker 2>to be in any playoff conversation, But do you where

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<v Speaker 2>do you come to down on playing a player as

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<v Speaker 2>valuable as him, as opposed to say to yourself, Okay, look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not working out this year. Maybe we just wait

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<v Speaker 2>and regroup and get this thing in twenty twenty six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering what your thoughts would be on something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think It's a very interesting question.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I respect Joe Burrow a lot for his

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<v Speaker 6>desire to play.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you want from a player.

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<v Speaker 6>And but the reality is, yes, they already have eight losses.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if they ran the table nine and eight might

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<v Speaker 3>not be numb.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the type of injury he has, I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'm not a duntor, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Those two injuries can be really debilitating. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>would think there's.

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<v Speaker 6>A chance he could be injured, and there's certainly a

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<v Speaker 6>chance what he starts playing that he could suffer a

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<v Speaker 6>lot another injury. And he has been injured quite a

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<v Speaker 6>business career already, and he's a great player, franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>When he's not available, it's just really tough for the

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals to win. So yeah, I mean, you know he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to want to play. That's not even an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>The question is do you allow him to play in

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<v Speaker 3>this situation? But apparently, you know he is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's they're leading towards playing him, and he's going to play.

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<v Speaker 6>And I really just hope he stays healthy. He's already

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<v Speaker 6>had enough injuries in his career. I hope he can

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<v Speaker 6>get through this season healthy. But if he doesn't, there's

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<v Speaker 6>definitely going to be some second guessing going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what do you figure the Ravens have cooked

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<v Speaker 2>up defensively for him tonight? And how do you see

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<v Speaker 2>this game playing out?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean Joe Burrow, you know, when you're dealing

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<v Speaker 6>with him, any mistake you.

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<v Speaker 3>Make, he's probably gonna take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 6>So the first thing is try and live in the

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<v Speaker 6>big plays, particularly between he and Jamartiz once.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can do that keep them from taking the

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<v Speaker 3>top off.

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<v Speaker 6>Or from Jaysey, know, breaking a tackle and making a

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<v Speaker 6>long run aft to catch it, then yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 6>they want to make them one to the minto you know,

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<v Speaker 6>stop the Bengals running game with Joe and second and third,

0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.760
<v Speaker 6>second and long, third and long. You gotta believe his

0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 6>mobility isn't one hundred percent his first game back after

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<v Speaker 6>not playing for this ball, So yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Put pressure on him, put him.

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<v Speaker 6>An obviously practic situations, and then send the pass rush

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<v Speaker 6>after him and see if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Force him as a mistake. But that he said, than done.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a great player.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like, you know, he'll make plays, Chase will

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<v Speaker 6>make plays. It's just limiting them and you know enough

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<v Speaker 6>to where you do what you can win the game.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't want to get a shootout with the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 6>The Rings one two shootouts against the Bengals last year

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<v Speaker 6>but barely escape both times. If they can hold the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 6>you know the twenty twenty three points. I think the

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<v Speaker 6>Ravens feel really good about their chances to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Clifton Brown Ravens dot Com. It's always great catching up

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<v Speaker 2>with you again. Happy Thanksgiving and let's go. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks thanks to Amy can be good.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet line on this game is seven. You can

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<v Speaker 2>get seven and a half on some books, but seven

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<v Speaker 2>is the line. Bengals plus seven kickoff is what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Eight to fifteen tonight? Right? Pregame show begins at four,

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<v Speaker 2>they tee it up and they play and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they play the games. Willie more of the Bengals as

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<v Speaker 2>we progress through the morning, and a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to get to as well. Happy Thanksgiving to you

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<v Speaker 2>and your family from seven hundred WLW nine eight on

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<v Speaker 2>how not to let politics ruin your Thanksgiving Day dinner. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about this a lot this time of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>into that before we're done today. And then also just

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<v Speaker 2>her where the governor wants to aban NFL prop bets

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<v Speaker 2>here in Ohio, I would say to him, good luck

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<v Speaker 2>with that. But nevertheless NFL prop bets and why so

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<v Speaker 2>many of us get suckered by them? It might be

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<v Speaker 2>as you get ready to make your wagering choices for

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<v Speaker 2>these three National Football League games today, it may be

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<v Speaker 2>something to pay attention to. We are here right until noon.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the UC basketball game last night. It was

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<v Speaker 2>not good from the UC point of view. No way,

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<v Speaker 2>no shape, no how. I don't know how Wes Miller

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<v Speaker 2>can can put lipstick on what happened yesterday. That was

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<v Speaker 2>what they call a by game. In other words, you

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<v Speaker 2>pay a school that you are by all means better

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<v Speaker 2>than and should whack. You pay that school to come

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<v Speaker 2>to your gym, to your arena, to wherever, and you

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<v Speaker 2>put a hurting on that team in front of your

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<v Speaker 2>home fans. You make the home fans happy they get

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<v Speaker 2>some money, but you get some prestige. Didn't work out

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<v Speaker 2>that way last night, sixty four fifty six, Eastern Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>University from the MAC comes to fifth third and beats

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the Bearcats sixty four to fifty six. Eastern Michigan had

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of zone defense that simply the bottomized, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>and west Miller was talking about that after the game.

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<v Speaker 7>The zone bothered the lineups that we had to play

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<v Speaker 7>with on the floor tonight. We haven't we haven't played

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<v Speaker 7>offense with a lot of the lineups we were playing tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's not an excuse by any means.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not in the excuse business. But we had a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of stagnant and we're trying to run the action

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<v Speaker 7>that we've worked on and put in. But we have

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<v Speaker 7>people in positions that never been in and we had

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of busted possessions tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you look at the box score, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing really staggering about it that you look at and say, oh, well,

0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 2>that could be a problem. I mean, Eastern Michigan got

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<v Speaker 2>to the line eight more times than Cincinnati. Okay, that's

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.119
<v Speaker 2>an issue. Eastern Michigan out rebounded Cincinnati. That's a real issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, you know, the Cincinnati didn't have three of

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<v Speaker 2>its big men, and I think that had something to

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<v Speaker 2>do with it. Tyler McKinley, who started the game for Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>gave him twenty three twenty three minutes, but just two

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<v Speaker 2>points and wound up fouling out. But there were a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reasons, I guess, strategically, starting with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the big guys up front just weren't there.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not in the excuse business, but we're missing if

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<v Speaker 7>you look at the roster we put together, we're missing

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<v Speaker 7>three of our top front court players, you know, with

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<v Speaker 7>Jalen Haynes and Baba and now Jaln Celestin, and these

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<v Speaker 7>are all old, experienced guys, physical guys, So you know,

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<v Speaker 7>we that obviously is a incredible effect on our team.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not an excuse.

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<v Speaker 7>We got to collectively figure out how to you know,

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<v Speaker 7>bridge those gaps. And that's that's the top that we have,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's a will attach.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they get Tarleton State on Monday night at fifth

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<v Speaker 2>third and then Friday night they hop the bus and

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<v Speaker 2>they go to Xavier and that seven thirty tip at

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the Sintas Center of the Crosstown shootout one week from

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night. That was not a good way to warm

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>up for it by any means, by any stretch of

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the imagination. But nevertheless, there you go again, the Bengals

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 2>tonight at eight o'clock, a ten to be exact. Pregame

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>show begins at four. There's a line of thinking that

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:40.919
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow should not play in this game, and I

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>never really understood that. I have to be honest with you.

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>They're paying him hundreds of millions of dollars to play football,

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and the record of the team should not have anything

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to do with whether or not Joe Burrow should be

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 2>able to do his job tonight, if indeed he is

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>healthy enough to do his job. Now, he's not going

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.719
<v Speaker 2>on the field because he twisted the arm of Zach Taylor.

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>That would be inherently irresponsible on Taylor's part to say

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 2>nothing about what it would mean for the team doctor

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and for the team owner. So they're not running him

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 2>out there because Joe says he's okay. And you know,

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 2>all those medical reports that you have on me, pay

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 2>no attention to them. No, he's been cleared by doctors,

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the coaches signed off on it, and obviously the owner

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>is signed off on it. And understand that players are

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 2>really not players in today's world of professional sports. Their investments.

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>That's how they're looked at, their commodities. And they have

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot invested in the commodity that is known as

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow. But he is paid to win football games.

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 2>He is paid to play football. He's not paid to

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 2>sit around if he's not healthy enough to play. So yeah,

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>he's going to play today. And even though it would

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>be really an exercise and futility to sit around and

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>do the permutations as to what path, if any, is

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>open to the Bengals for a playoff Berth. Look, they're

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>three at eight. They would have to rip off six

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 2>wins in a row. They've shown no signs of doing

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>that so far this season. Their defense, and there's a

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 2>great story today on ESPN dot com about how the

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Bengals may have the worst defense in the history of

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the National Football League. This defense twenty twenty five, and

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it's statistically supported by various metrics that are used to

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:35.719
<v Speaker 2>data analyze football players and football teams. DVOA is an

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>acronym that you here thrown around a lot. Now when

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you read about football, that's defense adjusted value over average.

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to bore you with the metric, but basically,

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 2>it's an adjusted statistic that puts it up against other teams.

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Your stat on that up against other teams, and it

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>compares you or your players. However you want to break

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 2>it down to the league average on a play by

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 2>play basis, then it's tempered by what other team strength

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of schedule is. It really is boring stuff, but bottom line,

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a metric to measure strength, weaknesses, greatness and awfulness

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of football teams. And the Bengals are flat out awful,

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 2>historically awful this year using that basic metric. So yes,

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a run of the playoffs is a pipe dream more

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>than anything else. But still Burrow wanted to play. He's

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>cleared to play, he's healthy enough to play, and in

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>his mind he said this was a no doubter tonight.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah,

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm healthy, but no, I don't think. I don't think

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 4>I should go out there and play. That doesn't make

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot of sense to me. I'm not gonna live

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 4>my life and play this game. Scared of something happening, like, Yeah,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 4>something's gonna happen.

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 5>It's football.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Guys are gonna get hurt, Guys are gonna get concussions

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 4>and to break bones, tear ligaments. It's a physical, intense games.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 4>That's part of this. And yeah, I've had injuries. It's

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 4>not a lot I can do about that. I work

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 4>really hard to have that not happen. But what I

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 4>can do is when it does happen, I can control

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 4>how I'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and doing

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 4>everything in my power to get back as quickly as possible.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. And let's not forget Joe Flacco played really

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>well when he was in there. Maybe not so much

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>against Pittsburgh, but two weeks ago, three weeks ago against Chicago,

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>he threw for four hundred and forty nine yards against

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the Jets, two seventeen against the Jets, two touchdowns, no interceptions.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Against the Steelers, Part one, three hundred and twenty eight

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 2>yards thirty one to forty seven, three touchdowns against Green Bay.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Against Green Bay three hundred and twenty I'm sorry, two

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirteen yards twenty nine to forty five, two

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 2>steps touchdowns, and no interceptions. The problem while Burrow was

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>away wasn't exactly quarterback play. Here's his head coach on

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>his quarterback, Saint Joe coming back tonight.

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 9>Well, difficult to predict. You know, it has been several months,

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 9>and so again I'm not going to make any predictions

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 9>on what it looks like. But again, he's put himself

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 9>in great shape. It's good to see him through the

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 9>progression that we've had over the last several weeks. I

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 9>think it was a fair progression for him to do

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 9>the seven on seven, do the eleven on eleven, get

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 9>your mind right, try to get ready to play in

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 9>a game, and then ultimately we'll wait and see where aliens.

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.719
<v Speaker 9>But I think it's been a really good progression that's

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 9>been helpful for him and then everything he can and

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 9>we can to get him ready to go playing a game.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore's defense isn't great. It's struggled. It's taken the ball

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>away a lot the last couple of weeks. It struggled

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>to put heat on the quarterback. They addressed some of

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>those issues at the trade deadline. If Burrow comes out

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>tonight and throws for three point fifty and three touchdowns.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 2>That would be Boroline miraculous for a guy who hasn't

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>thrown a football in what has it been two months?

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>What was that Jacksonville game was early in September, so

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>it's been two and a half months. Basically, If he

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>comes out and does something like that and it would

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>be Borrow, it would be legendary. But it's not fair

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>to expect that, just as it wasn't fair to expect

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>this offense, regardless of who was at quarterback, to consistently

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>every week deliver thirty thirty five, thirty eight points. Remember

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that narrative, Oh they can outscore anybody. Oh, the defense

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>just has to be Abbridge and all. You know, that's

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>all they got to be. Because Burrow and Higgins and

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Chase can put up thirty five points every game. It's

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>one thing to be able to do it. It's another

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>thing to have to do it. So I don't know

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>what to expect tonight either. I would think that we

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>will see some vintage Burrow, will see how well he

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>is at the thing he does best, in my opinion,

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and that's extending plays. Meanwhile, out in Baltimore, the head

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>coach out there who has been on the job forever.

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>John Harbaugh says that, you know Flacco Burrow, it probably

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 2>from a strategic standpoint, does not affect what the Bengals

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>are going to try and do tonight.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 10>They're going to stay on track, I'm sure, and what

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 10>they've been doing is pretty much what they had been

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 10>doing with Joe, So expect to see the Bengals run

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 10>their offense with Joe.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>And then of course you have Lamar Jackson. Now, Lamar

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Jackson's not hurt. He missed three games with a hamstring

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>poll and there are those who think that now that

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>he's back, he's not moving anywhere as well as what

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>he did before he suffered his hamstring poll. But the

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>team is winning, and the cog that makes that wheel

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>go is, of course us Lamar Jackson. There's no question

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>about it. Here come the Ravens tonight. The Ravens have won.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>They're six and five, they won five in a row.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at point differential, which is always interesting. They're

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>plus fourteen. You always want to be on the plus side,

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>but they haven't really lit it up. By NFL standards,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>eleven games, two hundred and seventy five yards. That's a

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>little south of twenty seven yards a game, and their

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>points against through eleven games is two hundred and sixty

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>one points allowed. That's a little south of twenty five

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>points per game allowed. So they're differential is not great,

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>but they are playing better lately. Not a great team

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>at home three and three. Nevertheless, they are playing better lately.

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 2>And I don't expect this tonight, but these games between

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens and the Bengals recently have been shootouts. They've

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>been who's got the ball last is usually the team

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that wins. Lamar Jackson was talking about that this week.

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>The back and forth, the back and forth. It seems

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to go on.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 10>Back and forth, you know, as seems like every time

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 10>we feared him, move be going back and forth.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Great quarterback over there, you know, great receiving corps.

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 3>So just looking for it.

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll see as it goes on tonight. Yeah, we'll see

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>as it goes on tonight. I don't know. It may

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>it may not, but I do know this that if

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Burrow comes back and does what he has done in

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the past, that'll be nothing short of miraculous. Meanwhile, you

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>got Jamar Chase, and Jamar Chase is back after sitting

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 2>out of suspension for spitting. He really wanted to move

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>on from it. When he was questioned about it earlier

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>this week, didn't seem too concerned that it would affect

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 2>his image long term.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 11>I mean, I have think of the day. I don't

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 11>really have them to prove who I am. I mean,

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 11>either you like me or you don't, I could care less.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 11>I'm still gonna go for that end of the day.

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 11>I got kids, I got people to take care of,

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 11>so I could really care less. So I'm going out

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 11>there and be the same play I am, you know

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 11>what I'm saying, and play football as at the end

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 11>of the day, and nobody gonna stop me from who

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 11>I am.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Chase without Higgins means Chase gets probably man help, may

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>get manned straight up, and it might be one of

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>those deals where the Ravens say, you know what, andre Yosi, Vas,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Mike Oseecki, Mitchell Tinsley, you know you guys beat us.

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna let Jamar beat us. So we'll see.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The fascination tonight is with Burrow and

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>exactly what he can do with having done nothing for

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>two and a half months because of the injury to

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>me that's the hook. That's the story. As the Bengals

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 2>head out to Baltimore to take on the Ravens tonight,

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and right here on seven hundred WLW, do you want to.

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Be an American idiot?

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Hey a ten oh fix ken brother, Scott Sloane, Happy

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving to you. It was just checking the nine on

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>your side forecast the weather department at WCPO Channel nine,

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>expertly presided over by Steve Rawley. Doesn't look like we're

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 2>going to get above thirty four today, but no precipitation.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 2>And I suppose that's good, right, because bad would be

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, at thirty four, you'd get you wouldn't get snow,

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't stick, you just get that crud that would fall.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>But none of that crud on this Thanksgiving. Just cloudy

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 2>skies and temperatures in the mid thirties. I saw this

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>stat we'll find the final stats for this year, but

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>last year, nearly eighty million people traveled over fifty miles

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>or more from home before and after Thanksgiving. That's according

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 2>to about six million of US flew and more than

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>seventy one million of US drove last Thanksgiving. And that's

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>good because we could reconnect with family and friends. You know,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>we become a disconnected society would be a good way

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to put it. We tend to stay in touch with

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 2>characters on Twitter or perhaps instant messages. Phone calls are big,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and phone calls today were kind of like in person

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>visits back in the bad old days of the nineteen eighties.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Now it's you got a phone call. My goodness, they

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>must really care about me. But it's it's true, And

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>forget about in person visits except for holidays like this.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think on holidays like this, we tend to

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>understand that we are disconnected society. And so today is

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>a good day to connect with people that are important

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 2>in your life. And maybe maybe ring a little bell

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.240
<v Speaker 2>in your head that would say I got to try

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>this more often. But you know, when you get together,

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you gotta have some sort of decorum and filter. Now,

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 2>this is a survey done by two thousand adults twenty

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 2>one and older. And this survey found out it was

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 2>done by Saint Francis Winery and Vineyards. Well, you're half

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 2>in the bag when you ask these people anyway, so

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>expect any answers. Forty two percent say politics will end

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>to dinner quicker than that. Twenty eight percent says finances,

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, don't talk to somebody about their appearance

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>or way. Twenty six percent say it's over if the

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 2>conversation goes that way today, And for gosh sakes, when

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>your cousin Mary shows up, don't ask her when is

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 2>she getting married? Because any kind of talk like that,

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty percent of the time, that's the end of dinner

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>on Thanksgiving. So when we reconnect today, it's important to

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 2>know how to connect because, as I said, disconnection is

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>is not good. Somebody else knows that is standing by

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the way in doctor Jonathan Thorpe. He is a relationship

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>expert and also the CEO of Quantum Connections. I'm not

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 2>sure what quantum connections is all about, but maybe he

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>can explain. Doctor Jonathan Thorpe, how are you on this

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 2>glorious Thanksgiving day?

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 8>Fantastic ken, Thanks for having me on.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 2>We are a disconnected world, aren't we. It just seems

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 2>like we're always looking to plug in somewhere where there's

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>no plug. How did we get here?

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.439
<v Speaker 12>You know, no matter what measure you look at, most

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 12>everybody agrees that this connection has never been worse the

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 12>outgoing Surgeon General of this country actually called it today's

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 12>epidemic on the same scale that smoking was back in

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 12>the sixties and nutrition and fitness were in the nineties.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 12>He said, today, isolation, loneliness, disengagement is kind of corrupting

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 12>our society in so many of the worst ways.

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's also kind of put some fencing around

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 2>our brains in this sense that we don't look for

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 2>information anymore. We look for affirmation, and we tend to

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>gravitate towards people and things that tell us, hey, you

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 2>know what, you're right, Hey, you know what you're right,

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to trying to expand some thought and look

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>for things maybe that we don't know about or never

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>considered or thought were nuts. I think there's a lot

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>of that going on today too.

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 5>What about you, Yeah, you're so right?

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 12>I think on a lot of levels, the way we

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 12>think is changing, and a lot of people, for the

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.240
<v Speaker 12>longest time thought our brains were hardwired and at birth

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 12>you kind of inherited a set of tools that you

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 12>kept for life. I think more and more people today, though,

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 12>understand that the brain is really plastic and capable of change.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 12>And while that is good for so many the right reasons.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 12>It's also capable of actually succumbing to things like much

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 12>shorter attention spans and this need for validation that you

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 12>just described, and in memory, if you think about it,

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 12>we used to have to file things away in short

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 12>term or even long term memory. Today there's no need

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 12>because you can pull out a fun and google just

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 12>about any single piece of information.

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 8>So the need to use your brain becomes less or less.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, And it even boils down to things like directions.

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Everybody uses GPS now, but you had to remember things.

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>You had to remember how to get from point A

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>to point B fifty years ago. Now you know, you

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>just put it address in and boom, you're there. You

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>don't have to pay attention to that. But I like

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>what you said about isolation because I think there's a

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of that going on too. I think, and you know,

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody wants to blame COVID, everybody wants to blame the Internet.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's those things or something else,

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 2>but it seems to me that as a society we've

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>become more isolated. We've become slaves to that handheld device

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>or to a laptop or whatever it is, and I

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know if there's a way out of that. Have

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you discovered a way out of that?

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 12>Well, there has to be ways that we can at

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 12>least try, you know, And I think COVID gets a

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 12>bad wrap. I think the trend was actually going in

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 12>this direction well before COVID and thanks in large parts

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 12>of things like technology and things like social media. I

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 12>think we started to see these changes that I think

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 12>COVID only accelerated. But if you ask me for a

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 12>way out, ken, I would tell you this absolutely understand

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 12>Number one, that there's a ton of energy. That this

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 12>is an emotionally loaded time to begin with. So when

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 12>people travel and spend money and spend some of their

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 12>precious vacation time getting together. You know, three and four

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 12>Americans are getting together this year for Thanksgiving. The first

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 12>thing you got to do is make sure you understand

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 12>and read the room and understand how much energy is

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 12>already present. We have it shortened attention spans. We're primed

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 12>to react instead of reflect. When you think about politics,

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 12>it's already an incredibly polarized environment right now, where you

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 12>don't talk to too many people that are sixty forty

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 12>on one issue or you certainly don't see about in

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 12>the media. You know, it's suggested that everybody's one hundred

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 12>percent one way and zero percent the other way. So

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 12>understanding that this polarization is really being fed actively.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 8>And the last thing is is holiday expectations, right.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 12>We want the day to be perfect, we want it

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 12>to be memorable, to live up to our you know,

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 12>the rich memories that we carry, and so all those

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 12>things make it a super stressful day. That's the first

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 12>thing is taking stock of that. Don't blow that off.

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 12>The second thing, Kenn is you got to shift. You

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 12>got to shift away from your reactive nature and kind

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 12>of move to a reflective or a listening nature.

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've always defaulted this, and you tell me if

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.280
<v Speaker 2>this is you know, a week way out. I always

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>identify somebody in the family that you know is either

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of like comical or quippie or can can do

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 2>things on a turn of a note that can get

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>a conversation, for example, Thanksgiving. Here we are Thanksgiving. Get

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it away from what it invariably walks into, which is

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 2>that polarization, that political wall, and I pull that person aside.

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I know I got three or four of them in

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 2>my family. I say, look, if things start to go

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 2>off the rails with Uncle George, here's what I need

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you to do. It's no problem. I got you covered.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I think you got to have some sort of designation,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 2>designated conversation turner at your table this Thanksgiving that will

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>take you away from things that invariably would lead to fights.

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Now my week for doing that? Should I just should

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I just you know, just say let it go and

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>we'll see where all the chips fall.

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 5>My week for doing that, I don't think so.

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 12>I think every every family's got the crazy Uncle Harold,

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 12>and I think fortunately most families have the clown the

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 12>gesture somebody to step in and save and redirect. I

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 12>think that's healthy. But at some point, you know, can

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 12>you you would probably want to say, maybe we don't

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 12>need to redirect to save us. Maybe as a family

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 12>or as a as a group of friends, we can

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 12>actually begin to listen more, react less. And so if

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 12>somebody says kind of the the off putting comment or

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 12>the risky comment, you know, instead of reacting to it,

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 12>invite them to kind of share the story or maybe

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 12>the experience of why that their views are shaped the

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 12>way they are. And so Ultimately, the goal might not be,

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 12>you know, at Thanksgiving dinner this year, maybe I don't

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 12>want to just try to find one more person and

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 12>change their mind so that they think like me.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 8>Maybe instead the goal is, let me find one more.

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 12>Person that I understand better, regardless of how they think,

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 12>and that we can actually go forward and say, you

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 12>know what, I don't Because I listen to you and

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 12>because I respect you doesn't mean I have to agree

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 12>with you. I would say that's probably a healthier posture

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 12>to assume.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 2>So for someone that is putting the finishing touches on

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the covered dish that they're going to bring to Thanksgiving dinner,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's maybe it's coming up here rather quickly, and

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're listening to the good doctor Thorpe and

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>some advice, and maybe they're going through some personal anks

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>because they know invariably that with a large gathering there's

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 2>going to be something that even the quipster in the

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 2>family can't get back on the rails. What do you

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 2>tell them should they be all wrapped up and angst at.

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 12>This point, I would say, don't ignore the emotion that

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 12>goes into the day. There's a lot of pressure to perform.

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 12>I would say, take a deep breath and pause and

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 12>let everybody know that, Hey, this conversation, this meal is

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 12>going to be filled with safety and fraternity and fellowship,

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 12>and let's just enjoy each other's companies, tell some stories

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 12>and make today being about our experiences, you know, and

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 12>our shared bonds instead of policies that, in all likelihood,

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 12>the five of us, the ten of us here at

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 12>the table, aren't going to solve or change today.

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You ever have one of those dinners though, Doc,

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean when you go there, it could be Christmas,

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it could be another holiday, it could be thank who knows?

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 2>You ever have one of those dinners? And do you

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 2>feel compelled being a doctor, being someone who's a relationship expert,

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 2>do you feel compelled to step in? What do you do?

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 12>I'm at those dinners all the time, Ken, and I

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 12>think if the people that are sitting and eating dinner

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:07.240
<v Speaker 12>with me know what I do? Everybody turns and looks

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 12>and says, well, what are you going to say? Can

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 12>you pull us out of the spire?

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 7>Bool?

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 12>And you know, sometimes it's best probably just a smile

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.839
<v Speaker 12>and let the let the group kind of manage it

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 12>and not step in. To try to feel like you

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 12>have to intervene or save. Most of the time people

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 12>figure it out and they kind of discover that maybe

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 12>if we just give each other a chance to kind

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 12>of be seen and heard, that a lot of really

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 12>good things follow those two things.

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Jonathan Thorpe as our guest. He is a relationship

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 2>expert CEO of Quantum Connections. Why can't we all just

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 2>get along with each other? Doctor? Have you ever stopped

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to think why we can't all just get along?

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 8>Well? I think we can.

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 12>I think we have to change the way we think

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 12>about difference. Right now, Difference is such a dividing influence

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 12>when if you just reframe it, I suggest it's easy.

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 8>It's certainly not.

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 12>But if we began to look at difference as kind

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 12>of a curiosity spark to say, I don't need to

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 12>become that person or the differences that they display, but

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 12>I sure would love to understand the better, to understand

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 12>why they are motivated to think and act and speak

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 12>as they do. And I think if we just reframe

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 12>difference to say, hey, that's going to create variety, and

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 12>we've got to have variety to actually form the solutions

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 12>that we all need. To solve the world's most pressing problems.

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 12>We're not going to do it if we all think

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 12>an act alike. We have to combine different solutions.

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not going to settle the world's problems at

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a Thanksgiving dinner. Trust me. I just have a wild

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>assumption that the world leaders aren't going to be hanging

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>on every word at your Thanksgiving dinner. I think maybe

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>if you approach it that way, maybe it'd be a

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 2>little more more palatable for you. But I wish you

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 2>and your family are happy Thanksgiving, Doctor Thorpe, And then

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>who knows, maybe this time next year we won't have

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 2>to have a conversation like this, But my guess is

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 2>we will. What's your guests?

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, here's for hoping.

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 12>I think we can all get a little bit better

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 12>and maybe maybe if we take a little bit one

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.959
<v Speaker 12>step forward, I think we'll be better off.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Doctor, Good stuff. How can people find you? When? When

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 2>they find you? What do they get?

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:15.479
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 12>You can learn more at Quantum Connections dot com and

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 12>here at our website. We offer personal development programs for

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 12>individuals couples, but we also offer organizational development programs if

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 12>you have teams or even departments that want to pull

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.319
<v Speaker 12>together and actually learn how to help everybody feel more

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 12>seen and heard.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, who wouldn't want that? Okay, Doc, stay well,

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to hear your voice and hopefully we can

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 2>do this again.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, thanks much, Ken, have a great Thanksgiving with you.

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Too, You too, don't talk about work in career on

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 2>this list is what are you going to talk about today?

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>If you can't talk about politics, finances, appearance or wait, religion,

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 2>spiritual beliefs, previous role, lit romantic relationships, mental health and

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 2>work career? What are you down to about that Uncle

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:07.959
<v Speaker 2>Joe's bad knee? Talk about that. That's good for about

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty or forty seconds, you know what, Just talk and

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>take it upon yourself. If things seem to be going sideways,

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, stand up and say something like, oh my,

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 2>what do you think Joe Burrow is going to do

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<v Speaker 2>tonight ten twenty two on this Thanksgiving day. Great to

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<v Speaker 2>have you with us right here on the home of

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>your Cincinnati Bengals. Eight fifteen Kick Tonight four o'clock is

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<v Speaker 2>when the pregame show begins on seven hundred WLW. I

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 2>love it when Willie plays guitar and Sloan and Eddie

0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 2>whistled behind him. Now that's some fine entertainment right there.

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back seven hundred WLW ken Brew for Scott Sloan.

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Happy Thanksgiving to you as you go over the river

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and through the woods to wherever you're going for Thanksgiving

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 2>dinner today. And if you're hosting it, God bless you. Everybody,

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 2>well not everybody. I'm here right, Dave Keaton is here

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 2>today working a holiday, but most of us are off

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 2>on Thanksgiving Day. And that's a good respite because there

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 2>is something that is creeping into businesses all over the

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 2>country and it's rearing its ugly head, particularly at the

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:34.240
<v Speaker 2>worker level. It's not burnout, it's bore out, d ore

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 2>bore out, bor out. What does that mean, well, borout.

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It happens when people become mentally disconnected or show a

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>lack of interest or engagement in their work. You know,

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 2>they kind of show up, but they're not showing out.

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 2>It often shows itself. You know, when you're burned out

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 2>with stress, some physical symptoms, maybe you're you know, you're

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 2>not feeling right, maybe you're cranky. Bore out is just

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 2>mined at numbing. It's like you've checked out. It's like

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 2>zombie like you're just putting in the time to get

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 2>the work done. I used to work with a guy

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 2>who shall go unnamed, many many years ago, and this

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 2>guy would show up for work and he would throw

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 2>his briefcase when people actually still carry those things, and

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>his coat his overcoat down over his chair and then

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 2>would disappear. Nobody could find him. Nobody could find him.

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 2>And what would happened as managers had walked back or

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 2>other people that might, you know, be in charge, and

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>they'd walk back, Well, where is well, he's here somewhere,

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, there's his coat, there's this The guy

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 2>just threw his coat and his briefcase or whatever it

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>was is. Yeah, I guess it was his briefcase down

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and then disappeared, walked out of the place. Hey, come

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>back for maybe like forty five minutes, then leave again.

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Nobody saw, but his coat was there. That's borout. Actually

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that was a scam. But that's borout because you just

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 2>feel completely disengaged on the job and it's costing these

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.400
<v Speaker 2>these these businesses money. This was the study that was

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 2>done by the American Journal of Preventative Medicine. Disengagement is

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 2>what they call it medically burnout cost US employers an

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 2>average of four thousand dollars per year for hourly employees,

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 2>forty two hundred dollars per year for salaried non management employees,

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and over ten thousand dollars for managers who are bored out,

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and over twenty thousand for executives who are bored at.

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Why is everybody bored on the job? Well, let's find

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 2>out kind enough to carve out some time on his holidays.

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Deson. I've had Dwayne on the show before. I

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted it him to come on today because it seems

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to me this is a chronic problem. Now, yes, he's

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 2>a business strategist, but he read a book that I

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 2>read maybe four or five weeks ago, right when it

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>came out. It's called operationally Felt manage costs to increase

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 2>profits and enhance performance. Who doesn't want to do that?

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>He's with a group called the Efficacy Group. We'll find

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 2>out more about that, hopefully as we press on with him.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>But for the moment, Dwayne decent. How are you on

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 2>this glorious Thanksgiving day?

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<v Speaker 8>I am very welcome. Thank you for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the difference between bore out and burnout. Where

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>would the line be drawn there?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, the big difference is, I think is with burnout

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 13>you're much more exhausted because you're being overworked, and borout

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 13>can be for a few reasons. Either you're underworked and

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.839
<v Speaker 13>therefore your board, or perhaps you're just not challenged, which

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.919
<v Speaker 13>is the other common aspect of bore out. Now there's

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:59.320
<v Speaker 13>they're very both have serious consequences. One, a lot of

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:02.399
<v Speaker 13>people are having accesses and people leave because they're burned out.

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 13>But people that are bore out are not engaged and

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:07.920
<v Speaker 13>usually are not producing the best work because of that.

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Either way, it sounds like it's a management problem.

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:14.800
<v Speaker 13>Well, I would actually say two issues. One, it is

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 13>a management problem where that means you're not challenging employees,

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 13>you're not creating a dynamic, exciting environment, and therefore you

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 13>and you're not helping your employees grow and therefore the board.

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:27.280
<v Speaker 13>So I would say yes, But there's also an employee

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 13>aspect of this where you have to make sure you

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 13>don't take a job that is not.

0:53:32.239 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Going to challenge you.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 13>If you take a job just because you want maybe

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:40.239
<v Speaker 13>a work life balance and low hours or whatever your criteria,

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.439
<v Speaker 13>and then all of a sudden, you're not challenged at work.

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 13>That's a bad thing too. So I think you have

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 13>to make sure that you seek opportunities as an employee

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 13>that is going to challenge you and going to make

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 13>you work and.

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:51.759
<v Speaker 8>Not cause a bore out certaint you know.

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I see this this Gallop report that says that employee

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 2>engagement in our country fell to its lowest level in

0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 2>ten years. That was a report of survey I guess

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 2>taken in twenty twenty four. Thirty one percent of workers

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>say they feel engaged on the job. Okay, So if

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 2>you're not engaged on the job, you're either not buying

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>in right or you're not be given a reason to

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 2>buy in. And I don't understand where the problem is here,

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 2>because if the boss wants to make money, right, boss

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 2>wants to make money, And in a lot of jobs,

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.399
<v Speaker 2>if the boss is making money, chances are you doing

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 2>the work for the boss will make money. So how

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 2>has it fallen into only thirty one percent here in

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 2>this recent survey? How's it falling that low?

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 13>Well, I think that set back to a little bit

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 13>of the combination of employees are taking positions that aren't

0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:44.399
<v Speaker 13>challenging them is one, and so that's creating a problem

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 13>because people want to have this work life balance, and

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 13>that's very common on the younger generations now.

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>But then I also think that work is trying to

0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>become so automated.

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 13>Now that we are trying to we feel like to

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 13>be efficient and to manage costs, we have to make

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 13>everything very routine and tight and and so there's very

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 13>little variation in processes, and because of that, you almost

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 13>end up acting like you're a machine where you're doing

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 13>one function over and over and over again, and then

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 13>you result and end up feeling unchallenged.

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 5>Because of it.

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is this is the second time that you've

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 2>said the word or the phrase, don't feel challenged at work. Okay,

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for another job. I'm well, this is a hypothetical.

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy where I am, but us I'm looking

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:30.439
<v Speaker 2>for another job and I'm looking around and I'm looking

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 2>at various companies that offer what I do. How would

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I how would I go through the interview process and

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.400
<v Speaker 2>know that this is a job that would challenge me,

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 2>knowing full well that the other side of this is

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.920
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about work life balance, where you'll take anything

0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 2>to earn a paycheck, to make sure that things at

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.280
<v Speaker 2>home are the most important things in your life. Nothing worried,

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong about that. Certainly, that's that's a great priority

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:58.680
<v Speaker 2>for a number of people. But how do you know

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 2>when you're out there if job that's offered to you

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 2>will be a job that will challenge you and you

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>will not become bored out? Great question.

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 13>What you really need to do is ask to speak

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 13>to other peers that you'll be working with and to

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 13>get a feel for the company, to get a feel

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 13>for what they do and what their job roles are.

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 13>And then one of the questions you can ask them

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.880
<v Speaker 13>to say how challenged do they feel on a day

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 13>to day basis, whether what's their hours are they do

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.320
<v Speaker 13>they receive additional training or other types of aspects that

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 13>might make their positions more interesting. So, don't just take

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 13>a job by you that you interview with your boss.

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 13>You spend an hour with that person. You assume you

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 13>understand a position if you can, and I think usually

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 13>the most companies are very open to try to speak

0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 13>with some of the people that you'll be working with

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 13>that have similar positions so that you really garner what

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 13>they're doing.

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it would seem to me that the people

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that would be the most successful at this would be

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the people I'm speaking of, people who are not going

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.319
<v Speaker 2>to be bored out, are not going to be burned out,

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 2>would have an ultimate goal. This is what I would

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>want to do, This is what I want to do

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>ten years from now, This is where I would ultimately

0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:12.240
<v Speaker 2>like to wind up in this career that I'm building.

0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's probably old guy thinking, because now, I think,

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, we have a society, particularly the younger

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>demographic of it, that wants work life balance, and because

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 2>of that, careers really aren't the issue here. It's jobs.

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 2>They'll take a job as opposed to looking at what

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the long term goals are for a quote unquote career.

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Have careers taken a back seat with the under thirty

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>crowd in your opinion, I think there.

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Is a problem with that.

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.880
<v Speaker 13>I think many people aren't looking what they want today

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 13>and not necessarily what they're going to want in ten

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 13>or twenty years from now. So when you are thinking

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:51.919
<v Speaker 13>about your career, you should be thinking about the long

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 13>term aspect of that and make sure that you are

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 13>working to that and progressing along that path and I

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.919
<v Speaker 13>think you bring up a good point about making sure

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 13>that you're challenged and the other ways of doing that

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 13>other than just what the employee provides you. You can

0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 13>go to your employer and tell them and say i'd

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 13>like additional responsibility, take the initiative. You can look for

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 13>training opportunities so you can expand your skills, look for

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 13>processes that aren't working well and make suggestions and get

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 13>involved in how to improve them. So kind of become

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 13>part of a solution. And if you do that, you

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 13>really add not only you're going to feel more engaged,

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:27.960
<v Speaker 13>but you're going to add a lot more value to

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 13>the company and be more appreciated.

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I would have to think that anybody who with half

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a brain that runs a company would be able to

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 2>identify a person like that as opposed to just some

0:58:37.960 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 2>floater or somebody that's just trying to take a job.

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Dwen Dcent business strategist. His book is Operationally Spelt Manage

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Costs to increase profit and enhance performance. Look, this is

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe all topic a little bit, but AI is here

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's only going to become more prevalent in a

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of businesses. If you're somebody who is a line worker,

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 2>someone who's not middle management, someone who is not in

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the corner suite, the C suite. What should you be

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:08.920
<v Speaker 2>doing about AI? Because it sounds like AI is going

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 2>to take away a lot of the jobs maybe that

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 2>we've been talking about here in the last couple of minutes.

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 13>Yes, I do not think you're off point at all.

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 13>AI is a big factor, particularly here because you're talking

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 13>about people that are doing somewhat re team task or

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 13>not challenged for whatever reason. But usually that's a sign

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 13>that has worked that AI can do pretty efficiently as well.

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:32.600
<v Speaker 13>So if you are in a position where you're bored out,

0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 13>I do think you're more at risk being replaced by

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 13>AI type of solution. And I think the solution to

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 13>that is not to avoid AI and dreddic, but it's

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 13>actually to engage AI. How do you embrace AI in

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 13>order to make your job easier. May take away the

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:53.360
<v Speaker 13>boredom aspects of what you do and the routine aspects

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 13>of what you do and try to make them something

0:59:55.560 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 13>a little bit more exciting, so you know, you have

0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 13>the time to concentrate on the type the work that

1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:04.120
<v Speaker 13>maybe you enjoy more, that's more creative. That AI really hasn't.

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Been able to do yet, or maybe take on an

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<v Speaker 2>additional task or two at work, something that might prepare

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<v Speaker 2>you for the next level up at that particular company,

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<v Speaker 2>so you become more valuable to that company and stay

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<v Speaker 2>a step or two ahead of AI. I mean to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that would make sense, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, And I think one of the things that creates

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<v Speaker 13>boredom and more out is when you are when you're

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<v Speaker 13>in the same position for a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>So you should try to be on a.

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<v Speaker 13>Management track of some kind, or at least a progression

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<v Speaker 13>track of some kind where you are consistently challenged and

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<v Speaker 13>promoted every couple of years so that you're not doing

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<v Speaker 13>the same thing over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I hate to say it, though, but Dwayne, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I both know there are just some people that

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<v Speaker 2>just don't want want to do that. They don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be motivated. Maybe it's it's just a function of

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<v Speaker 2>human nature, but they just they don't want any of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll just wait for the truck to hit them

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<v Speaker 2>at work as opposed to try to do something like

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<v Speaker 2>we just suggested. And maybe the key for management is

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<v Speaker 2>is when you're looking to fill positions. Who are the

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<v Speaker 2>people that would seem to you And if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>high somebody's doing the hiring, you should have your antenna

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<v Speaker 2>up about this someone who looks and acts like they

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<v Speaker 2>would be motivated for that. And maybe that's what it

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<v Speaker 2>all comes down to. There are people in this world

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<v Speaker 2>that are motivated and there are some that are not.

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<v Speaker 13>Right, I think you're correct in that there are people

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<v Speaker 13>that are motivating people that are not. But part of

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<v Speaker 13>the job of a company is to help employee get challenged,

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<v Speaker 13>and I think what happens is that employees might at

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<v Speaker 13>first think, well, yes, I kind of just want my

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<v Speaker 13>routine and just want to go get my paycheck and

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<v Speaker 13>go home. But I think over time they do get

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<v Speaker 13>frustrated with that, and if you do challenge them, I

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<v Speaker 13>think they're more content and happy at work. So even

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<v Speaker 13>if it's their instinct to say, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 13>don't want that stressful life or whatever they're trying to avoid,

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<v Speaker 13>I think sometimes when they're given an opportunity and maybe

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<v Speaker 13>put a little preasure on to succeed and to do better,

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<v Speaker 13>they actually grow.

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<v Speaker 3>As an individual.

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<v Speaker 13>If you are an employer and you find employees not

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<v Speaker 13>only during the interview process that you think are not

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<v Speaker 13>going to be the type that grow with you, or

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<v Speaker 13>if you are employing people that are just stagnant and

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<v Speaker 13>weighing down the organization.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you have to make tough decisions on both

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<v Speaker 5>those counts, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Dwayne the Efficacy group. When people go to the

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<v Speaker 2>epicygroup dot com, what do they find besides a nice

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<v Speaker 2>picture of you? And then what do you offer?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I do I help companies manage costs. And that's

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<v Speaker 13>interesting in that there's a big cost waste when you

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<v Speaker 13>talk about bore out and burnout and a lot of

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<v Speaker 13>those aspects of it. So part of what I help

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<v Speaker 13>companies do if I help them make a more vibrant, energetic,

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<v Speaker 13>and attractive environment so that they get good employees and

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<v Speaker 13>they don't have to overpay for employees. They don't have

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<v Speaker 13>employees that are just not productive and not producing for

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<v Speaker 13>the company, so it's a big cost rating for them.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's the piece of what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, and probably pick up a copy of Operationally

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<v Speaker 2>Felt Manage cost to increase profit and enhance performance would

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<v Speaker 2>be a good starting point and entry point into Dwayne

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<v Speaker 2>deson Business Strategist And look, thanks for your time here, Dwayne.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you explain things rather well. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pres it down the road. How about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gallup, this gallup thing. Employee engagement in the US

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<v Speaker 2>fell to its lowest level in ten years in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. Again, thirty one percent of workers say they

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<v Speaker 2>feel engaged. Let me do my Ohio University math. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that would mean sixty nine percent of us. Sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of us don't feel engaged at all on the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty nine percent of workers feel strongly that their employers

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<v Speaker 2>care about them as people. This isn't Yes, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a worker problem, but the cause of the worker problem

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<v Speaker 2>is not the worker, by and large, it's what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>above that worker, middle management, and then who sits in

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<v Speaker 2>the c suite and dictates all of this stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, if you own a company, it's costing

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<v Speaker 2>you boku bucks coming up on ten fifty five. It's

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<v Speaker 2>ken Brew for Scott Sloan on this Thanksgiving Day. In

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, if you're traveling this weekend, beware of the

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<v Speaker 2>airline you have a ticket for, because it may not

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<v Speaker 2>be as seamless as it would seem seven hundred w

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<v Speaker 2>welw do you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be an American idiot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, whatever you do, please don't don't ever do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't ever be that reflects poorly on America. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>hen Brew for Scott Sloan Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope wherever you are today that you're celebrating this

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<v Speaker 2>with family friends. I know that doesn't often happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that often on a lot of Thanksgivings, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen for everyone. And for those of you struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with the holidays today, I get it. I totally get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you know somebody that maybe is maybe they've

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<v Speaker 2>suffered the loss of a loved one in the last

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<v Speaker 2>year and this is a really wretching Thanksgiving for them,

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<v Speaker 2>or perhaps someone who doesn't have any family that you

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<v Speaker 2>know of, knock on the door and if you're so

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<v Speaker 2>inclined to invite them over, because these these holidays are

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<v Speaker 2>great if you are a family or a congo conglobration

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<v Speaker 2>of families, I mean anymore, that's what we are. We're

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<v Speaker 2>hybrid families. But if you know somebody that is not

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<v Speaker 2>part of a family today, maybe somebody you live in

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<v Speaker 2>a neighborhood with, or maybe somebody you see at Kroger,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe somebody that you just know from your church,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever it may be. It's not bad to call

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<v Speaker 2>up and say, hey, you know, we're having dinner today

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<v Speaker 2>at four o'clock. Would you like to join us? We

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<v Speaker 2>all have one thing to be thankful for, And it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter who we are, And it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 2>our financial status is, or what kind of race we

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<v Speaker 2>are or ethnicity, how we choose to if we choose

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<v Speaker 2>to worship. We all have one thing in common. We're

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<v Speaker 2>alive today. We woke up this morning, and there is

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<v Speaker 2>that to be thankful for. So on all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Thanksgiving to you. If you're traveling this Thanksgiving, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that it is an adventure. Thank god they've got

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<v Speaker 2>the government shutdown over with. I can't imagine what the

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<v Speaker 2>shutdown would have been like if it was still an

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<v Speaker 2>effect for this particular holiday, because, as we've already noted,

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<v Speaker 2>last year's stats showed us that over seven million people

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<v Speaker 2>traveled on the Thanksgiving Day weekend, and a majority of

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<v Speaker 2>those traveled by air. And if you're traveling by air,

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<v Speaker 2>you do one or two things. You go to the

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<v Speaker 2>airline you're most comfortable with, or you find the airline

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<v Speaker 2>that you can afford. And there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good low cost airlines there are, they're not the best.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to go in there and understanding that they

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<v Speaker 2>operate on a slimmer budget and so because of that

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<v Speaker 2>they may not have all the amenities of the bigger airlines.

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<v Speaker 2>Finance Buzz, and I have to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of this finance Buzz, but it reviewed

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<v Speaker 2>stats on the numbers of canceled and delayed flights, mishandled bags,

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<v Speaker 2>average arrival, and delayed lengths.

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<v Speaker 7>And.

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<v Speaker 2>They were awarding scores to airlines. Now, this survey apparently

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<v Speaker 2>occurred over the last three months. Guess which airline scored

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<v Speaker 2>the best. It's an airline that you used to have

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<v Speaker 2>a hub here, Delta. Of all the airlines, its score

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<v Speaker 2>came out as thirty five point nine. What does that mean, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty was perfect. Delta scored thirty five point nine. Right

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<v Speaker 2>behind it was Hawaiian Air at thirty two point nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure there's a weather reason for that, and then came

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<v Speaker 2>Southwest at twenty seven. And again this is a conglomeration

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<v Speaker 2>of stats flights delayed, flights canceled, average delay length, and

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage of mishandled bags. Low cost airlines Frontier eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>point seven, Allegiant eighteen point four, American not much better.

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<v Speaker 2>They came in at twenty. The average flight delay for

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<v Speaker 2>Delta was sixty five minutes. That doesn't sound great, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was sixty six for United, seventy five for American,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five for Allegiant. So what does all this mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're flying, if you've already bought a ticket

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<v Speaker 2>for this weekend, well, you know what, You're stuck with

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<v Speaker 2>the ticket you got. But if you're thinking of buying

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<v Speaker 2>a ticket for travel later in this holiday season, listen up.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Blewett is about to weigh in, Say ken, Who

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<v Speaker 2>is Brandon Blewett. Well, he's an expert on airline passenger

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<v Speaker 2>experience and has written a book which is a really

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<v Speaker 2>funny book, How to Avoid Strangers on Airplanes, Survival Guide

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<v Speaker 2>for the frequent business traveler. He liges in so many

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<v Speaker 2>miles on airlines it equals seventy round trips around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's standing by the way in on exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>this Finance Buzz rating and scorecard was all about and

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon blew it. How are you on this glorious Thanksgiving day?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, I'm good. My flight was not delayed.

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<v Speaker 5>So what more can I say?

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<v Speaker 2>You're so you're the guy? Okay, you're the guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I have his play delayed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at these numbers here. They're not very good,

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<v Speaker 2>even for Delta, which is the top rated airline here

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of percentage of flights delayed, percentage of flights canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>the average delay length, the average of mishandled bags. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers here are not good. So I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking is is Delta the king of the hill? And

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<v Speaker 2>if so, what hill is it king of?

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<v Speaker 14>It's really interesting the list of Finance Buzz put out right,

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<v Speaker 14>because how they factored it is what's the most disruptive

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<v Speaker 14>and what is the least dependable? Probably depends on you

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<v Speaker 14>know how often you travel, and you know what your

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<v Speaker 14>travel plans are.

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<v Speaker 5>Because for me, I travel every week.

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<v Speaker 14>So if a flight's delayed, yes that's annoying, but it's

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<v Speaker 14>not going to be devastating. So a flight cancelation would

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<v Speaker 14>be the bigger drawback for me. You know, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 14>through the you know, the stats, and it looked like,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, Delta, you know, score the best in almost

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<v Speaker 14>you know, every category.

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<v Speaker 5>So look, they have, they have a stellar reputation.

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<v Speaker 14>I lived in Atlanta four eleven years, flew them every

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<v Speaker 14>week and generally had a very very positive experience with them.

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<v Speaker 14>So I do think that they are you know, king

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<v Speaker 14>of the hill, so to speak, based on the latest ratings.

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<v Speaker 14>I also think with airlines that you mentioned that the

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<v Speaker 14>ratings aren't that good for all of them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's fair. I do think that the.

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<v Speaker 14>Airline industry in general has to deal with so many

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<v Speaker 14>external factors that a lot of other businesses don't have

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<v Speaker 14>to deal with, you know, namely weather. If you have

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<v Speaker 14>a hub and spoke model and a storm rolls through

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<v Speaker 14>your hub, that's just going to cause the chain reaction

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<v Speaker 14>of bad events that happen, you know, across your entire network.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, no, that's true. There's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that are outside the airlines controlled, there's no question about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And just the skies are jammed, let's face it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>these air traffic controllers are They're wizards and make holding

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<v Speaker 2>this work. But I'd be interested to drill down and

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<v Speaker 2>see what they mean by number of flights delayed. If

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<v Speaker 2>you leave the gate, if that plane pushes back sits

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<v Speaker 2>on the tarmac, is it delayed because it left the

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<v Speaker 2>gate on time? And the percentage of flights canceled? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you really can't get around that one. All

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<v Speaker 2>that much percentage of bags mishandled? Well, what does mishandled mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it not arrive when you're there? Does it mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's banged up? Does it mean you have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>longer at the carousel for the bag to be delivered?

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<v Speaker 2>Some of this stuff is on its surface, okay, But

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<v Speaker 2>when you drill down, let's just take flights delayed. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some wadlines that say, hey, it's another on time departure.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you sit on the tarmac for two So flights

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<v Speaker 2>is a really kind of nebulous thing, is it not?

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<v Speaker 14>It is, And it's even more complicated by the fact that,

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<v Speaker 14>as I understand, the FAA used to measure it based

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<v Speaker 14>on arrival time, so long as you were within thirty

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<v Speaker 14>minutes of your scheduled arrival.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's even a little bit of wiggle room for

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<v Speaker 5>the airline.

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<v Speaker 14>There, and I think what shall also see with many

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<v Speaker 14>of the airlines now is we'll pad the flight time, right,

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<v Speaker 14>So even if you sit on the tarmac for an

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<v Speaker 14>extra twenty minutes because they have booked, say three hours

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<v Speaker 14>before a flight that's likely only two hours and twenty

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<v Speaker 14>minutes in airtime, you'll still wind up that your destination

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<v Speaker 14>on time, so as I understand, and what they use

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<v Speaker 14>here to calculate was not based on when you leave

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<v Speaker 14>the gate. It's based on when the plane arrives at

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<v Speaker 14>the gate of your destination.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, okay, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of a score of fifty, Delta was overall thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five point nine, and the rest of the airlines that

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<v Speaker 2>we would fly here in this area of the country

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<v Speaker 2>would not stack up all that well. I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>next ranked one was Hawaiian Air, but obviously Cincinnati. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten far away from Hawaii's you can get.

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<v Speaker 14>When you're only flying between the California and Hawaii, the

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<v Speaker 14>weather's always perfect, you're probably not going to be a

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<v Speaker 14>subject to most of the elements of the rest of

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<v Speaker 14>the country as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you get to airlines like United and Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>and American in Frontier and Allegian and the Jet Blue,

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<v Speaker 2>and Southwest you're talking basically fifty percent. If the score

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<v Speaker 2>is fifty these airlines are all scoring below twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not good, is it?

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 14>And if you look at Southwest in particular, so for

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<v Speaker 14>Southwest and percent of percent of flights canceled, you'll notice

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<v Speaker 14>THEIRS is two point four percent, which is higher than

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<v Speaker 14>I think almost every other airlines stay of Alaska. If

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<v Speaker 14>you look at Delta, United, an American, you'll see they're

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<v Speaker 14>all below one percent. And the reason for that is

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<v Speaker 14>that Delta American and United have a hub and spoke model,

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<v Speaker 14>so they within their network they have call it eight

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<v Speaker 14>to ten airports where all of their show and they

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<v Speaker 14>all leave there. So if you're able to fly people

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<v Speaker 14>to that hub, the likelihood that they can get a

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<v Speaker 14>new plane, get a new crew. If something you know

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<v Speaker 14>where to go wrong, you know your inbound crew or

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<v Speaker 14>your inbound plane are delayed, they can mobilize. They have

1:14:57.920 --> 1:15:02.000
<v Speaker 14>mechanical operations at those the at those airports, and so

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<v Speaker 14>they're able to get things moving.

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<v Speaker 5>When you see airlines like.

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<v Speaker 14>South West, they're more of a point to point airline,

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<v Speaker 14>so they don't fly everything into one You know, into

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<v Speaker 14>eight to ten airports and everything goes from there. So

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<v Speaker 14>if a flight gets delayed or canceled, it causes a

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<v Speaker 14>serious chain of the events where all these subsequent flights

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<v Speaker 14>that were depending on that aircraft could get canceled. And

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<v Speaker 14>then airlines like you know, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, you know

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<v Speaker 14>Jet Blue, to some extent, they just have a very

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<v Speaker 14>limited network and so if a flight gets canceled or

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<v Speaker 14>a flag gets severely delayed, it just creates, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>math chaos within the system for the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that brings me to the to the cheap

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<v Speaker 2>or low cost airlines, Frontier Allegiant, They're both way down

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<v Speaker 2>the list. Frontier eighteen point seven out of fifty, Allegiant

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen point four out of fifty. They are delayed percentages

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<v Speaker 2>right around twenty five percent, cancelations right around two sent

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<v Speaker 2>a little better for Frontier. Maybe it's me I fly

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<v Speaker 2>Allegiant a lot. I like the airline. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to get to where I'm going. I don't I don't need,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of frills. Most of their flights

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<v Speaker 2>to where I go are less than two hours. But

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<v Speaker 2>why would Frontier an Allegiant be that way, allegiant is

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<v Speaker 2>point to point I think you just mentioned that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>will do I mean a plane will fly from Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>to Fort Lauderdale and turn around to I'm back from

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Lauderdale to Cincinnati. So the stress is on that

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<v Speaker 2>is on that particular crew, on that particular flight, on

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<v Speaker 2>that particular situation, because if you strand a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>passengers in Cincinnati, you're also stranding a bunch of passengers

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<v Speaker 2>in in Fort Lauderdale. They're not going to fly another

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<v Speaker 2>play plane end to grab a bunch of people from

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<v Speaker 2>Fort Lauderdale. So but why don't they rates so low?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 14>They also they don't have the same number of aircraft.

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<v Speaker 14>If you look at the number of aircraft in the

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<v Speaker 14>fleets for you know, Delta, American, United and probably Southwest,

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<v Speaker 14>they have a lot more planes. So if something goes

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<v Speaker 14>wrong and a plane has to be taken off shelf

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<v Speaker 14>for for an extended period of time, there's there's not

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<v Speaker 14>just let's go get the plane that's at you know,

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<v Speaker 14>East seventeen. You know, if you're at DFW and bring

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<v Speaker 14>it over here, because you know it was you know,

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<v Speaker 14>just brought back into commission per maintenance. It just it

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<v Speaker 14>causes a cascade that it's really really hard for those

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<v Speaker 14>for those airlines, you know, like Allegiate like Frontier to

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<v Speaker 14>catch up from.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense. Brandon Blew It's an expert on airline

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<v Speaker 2>passenger experience. He's the author of How to Avoid Strangers

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<v Speaker 2>on Airplanes survival guide for the frequent business traveler. How

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<v Speaker 2>do you avoid strangers on airplanes? They're all strangers. You

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<v Speaker 2>just wrought the stranger that doesn't talk to you right.

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<v Speaker 5>By my book that you hold up the cover and

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<v Speaker 5>people get the points.

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<v Speaker 7>Go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all in. It's all in the jacket. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>in the jacket. What did you exactly what did you

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<v Speaker 2>make of transfer to As Secretary Sean Duffy is saying

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<v Speaker 2>this week that he wants people to dress up more

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<v Speaker 2>on airlines and flights and not wear pajamas or I

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<v Speaker 2>guess like sweatpants and things like that that hopefully if

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<v Speaker 2>you dress better there would be fewer I guess, fistfights

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<v Speaker 2>on the Spirit airlines. But my point being is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like we have gotten sloppy. I'm old

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<v Speaker 2>enough to remember when you literally did get dressed up

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<v Speaker 2>to fly on an airplane. Those days have long gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But what did you make of what he had to

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<v Speaker 2>say this week?

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<v Speaker 5>I actually agree with it wholeheartedly. I think that when

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<v Speaker 5>you I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 14>Everyone needs to go back to wearing a suit and

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<v Speaker 14>high right, But I do think there is an element

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<v Speaker 14>if you're showing up in pajama pants and flip flops

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<v Speaker 14>and you know, hoodie, something that you would only wear

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<v Speaker 14>your home, you start to view your surroundings out in

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<v Speaker 14>public as your home. And I think that's when you

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<v Speaker 14>think that everything should be accommodating to you and your wishes,

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<v Speaker 14>and it's like, no, we're in an airport, we're on

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<v Speaker 14>a plane.

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<v Speaker 5>It's in a shared space. It's a limited space.

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<v Speaker 14>And I've noticed, look when I you know, we do

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<v Speaker 14>a lot of remote work, but when I show up

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<v Speaker 14>to work and I have a meeting, and you know,

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<v Speaker 14>I dress for the occasion, it elevates my performance. And

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<v Speaker 14>I think that there is an element to that that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 14>we we've gotten a little bit sloppy.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it it may make maybe.

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<v Speaker 14>It's marginal improvements and passenger behavior, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 14>it's going to hurt by any stretch of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't either. And I just think that decorum

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<v Speaker 2>in this country obviously, has has taken a really sharp

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<v Speaker 2>turn for the worst in the last couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are today, And when you're stuck in

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<v Speaker 2>this aluminum tube, uh for three or four hours with someone,

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing you want is that someone to come

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<v Speaker 2>in there and they sit down next to you and

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<v Speaker 2>they got their pajamas on, and chances are they just

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<v Speaker 2>rolled out of bed and they didn't shower and they stink.

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<v Speaker 2>I got you here. Here's another pet peeve of my brand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sorry. I'm just gonna say, bring it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they should ban outside food on a plane because invariably

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is going to come strutting down that aisle. It's

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<v Speaker 2>loaded with onions and garlic or some other curry or

1:20:13.920 --> 1:20:16.280
<v Speaker 2>something is just going to stink to high heaven. These

1:20:16.360 --> 1:20:20.600
<v Speaker 2>airlines should say no outside food on this plane, and

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<v Speaker 2>then and then and then some food on the plane

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<v Speaker 2>for free. How about that?

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<v Speaker 14>I think they we'll have to talk to the airline

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<v Speaker 14>executives about about the latter point. I do agree with

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<v Speaker 14>with your point on bringing obnoxious smelling foods onto the plane.

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<v Speaker 5>I always laugh. I fly between Washington, Dulles and.

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<v Speaker 14>Dallas Fort Worth, you know, at least once a month,

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<v Speaker 14>and there is a Benz Chili across from the from

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<v Speaker 14>the gate, and I just thought, what a what a

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<v Speaker 14>horrible thing to eat, either before you get on the

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<v Speaker 14>plane or on the plane. It should a minimum, should

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<v Speaker 14>be limited to cold foods that do not smell.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked in Washington, DC. I've been to the actual

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<v Speaker 2>Ben's Chili and it is it's a landmark in DC.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not I guess the airport. One is just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a branch. The other is uh is in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown d C. And I've been to it. It's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like it. But you're right, you you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's Ben's Chili about a block and a half

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<v Speaker 2>before you get to Ben's Chili. So imagine walking down

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<v Speaker 2>the aisle of a plane, either having just consumed it

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<v Speaker 2>or bringing what wasn't on the plane. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's it just drives me crazy. Well anyway, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is interesting stuff, and you're an interesting guy. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon's book has how to avoid strangers on airplanes survival

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<v Speaker 2>guide for the frequent business traveler. Sounds like a good

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<v Speaker 2>read for anyone that's boarding a plane this holiday season. Uh, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>you stay well and hopefully we can visit again down

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<v Speaker 2>the road.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks absolutely, enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Delta was also recently named best US Airline by Forbes.

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<v Speaker 2>In its second an You Will Verified Air Travel Awards Performs,

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<v Speaker 2>the airline received five awards, the most of all airlines considered.

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<v Speaker 2>They also say that Delta's complimentary Wi Fi and customer

1:22:13.360 --> 1:22:18.959
<v Speaker 2>service a big benefit passengers. Remember the days at CBG

1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you could fly anywhere in the country, it seemed before

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<v Speaker 2>the merger, right, what was it the merger with Northwest

1:22:27.240 --> 1:22:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you could go anywhere, and then of course it was

1:22:29.040 --> 1:22:31.320
<v Speaker 2>calm air and how wonderful that. Don't get me going

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<v Speaker 2>on what happened to Delta here in Cincinnati. But if

1:22:35.000 --> 1:22:37.080
<v Speaker 2>you fly Delta now know that you are flying the

1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:43.840
<v Speaker 2>airline that received finance buzz top Breeding in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that to yourself. If you know you got like

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<v Speaker 2>a two hour delay, it might comfort you. It's eleven

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six on this Thanksgiving morning. Ken Brew for Scott's

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<v Speaker 2>Loan News Radio seven hundred WLW on this Thanksgiving morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, I am ken Brew and for Scott's loan.

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<v Speaker 2>Today Bengals football down the road. Of course, No t Higgins,

1:23:14.080 --> 1:23:18.080
<v Speaker 2>he's out with a concussion. Joe Burrow is back, and

1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>so is Jamar Chase. After that spitting incident against the

1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Steelers a couple of weeks ago, someone asked Jamar this

1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>week in his news conference if he's worried about his

1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:31.519
<v Speaker 2>image now being a team captain and then you know,

1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:37.000
<v Speaker 2>dropping a loogie on an opposing player and you know,

1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:40.200
<v Speaker 2>lying about it initially, and he just this is what

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<v Speaker 2>he had to say.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I at think of the day, I don't

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<v Speaker 11>really have them to approve who I am. I mean,

1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:47.360
<v Speaker 11>do you like me or you don't. I could care less.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm still gonna go for that end of the day.

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<v Speaker 11>I got kids, I got people to take care of,

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<v Speaker 11>so I could really care less. So I'm going out

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<v Speaker 11>there and be the same play I am. You know

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<v Speaker 11>what I'm saying, and play football as at the end

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<v Speaker 11>of the day, nobody gonna stop me from who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>See if the Ravens can stop him tonight they have

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<v Speaker 2>not in games past. He is Last year he had

1:24:05.479 --> 1:24:08.559
<v Speaker 2>went to town on the Ravens defense. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens tonight pregame show at four all the play

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<v Speaker 2>by play with Dave Lapham and Dan Horde beginning at

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<v Speaker 2>eight fifteen tonight right here on seven hundred at WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard mentioned in our newscast in the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of actually the last couple of newscasts, that Mike DeWine

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<v Speaker 2>was on with Willie this week and he wants to

1:24:30.800 --> 1:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>work with the NFL to outlaw prop player bets. And

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<v Speaker 2>my thinking is two pases out of the tube. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure you can do that, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure you don't open yourself up to litigation from fan

1:24:47.880 --> 1:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>duel and DraftKings and some of these other books that

1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:55.439
<v Speaker 2>are already in this state and making Hay I mean,

1:24:55.479 --> 1:24:59.360
<v Speaker 2>he was not successful in blocking high school player nil money,

1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:03.080
<v Speaker 2>which was just signed into law, So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>that or just became law. I should say, would be

1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the more the more applicable term. But you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>once you once you've okated, once the voters have voted

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<v Speaker 2>for it, once it's there, you're you're You're not going

1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to be able to go back and say, well, wait

1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:21.519
<v Speaker 2>a minute, that's not what we really want. And quite truthfully,

1:25:21.600 --> 1:25:24.280
<v Speaker 2>by the time it would get reversed, if it could

1:25:24.320 --> 1:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>get reversed, he's not going to be around anyway, and

1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:30.519
<v Speaker 2>he will, he'll be out of office. But I just

1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think you can do that. I think you open

1:25:33.040 --> 1:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>yourself up for a lot of things that you don't

1:25:35.200 --> 1:25:38.280
<v Speaker 2>want to open yourself too. I mean, it's noble with

1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>all of the specter of fixing that's gone on with

1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the NBA and with Major League Baseball recently, but I

1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>think it's a noble offer. It just I just I

1:25:49.320 --> 1:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>think you're you're kind of wasting your time there. But

1:25:53.120 --> 1:25:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you can gamble today, and there are prop bets available today,

1:25:56.439 --> 1:25:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and what better source to turn to for wagering information

1:26:00.439 --> 1:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>is our next guest. He is the wagering guru at

1:26:03.000 --> 1:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Pro Footballfocus dot Com. As a matter of fact, Pro

1:26:06.880 --> 1:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Footballfocus dot Com kind of takes the guesswork out of

1:26:10.880 --> 1:26:17.040
<v Speaker 2>making money when you wager legally, of course, and Mason

1:26:17.120 --> 1:26:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Cameron's here to talk about all of that as we

1:26:19.479 --> 1:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>count down to NFL games that begin here in less

1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>than an hour. Mason Cameron, how are you on this

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<v Speaker 2>glorious Thanksgiving Day?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

1:26:27.280 --> 1:26:28.120
<v Speaker 5>Always a good day.

1:26:28.040 --> 1:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>To be on here with you, God bless you. I

1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:31.880
<v Speaker 2>love it when you say that. Look, is it fair

1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to say that. I think a lot of people they

1:26:34.160 --> 1:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>like the idea of gambling, but they don't really have

1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the knowledge that they need when it comes to gambling.

1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I says there's a lot of people out there that

1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:46.559
<v Speaker 2>like the action, but they don't know how to play

1:26:46.600 --> 1:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the action. Is that a fair assessment?

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I mean I would say that that is a

1:26:52.080 --> 1:26:55.360
<v Speaker 15>great assessment of the situation. You know, ninety five percent

1:26:55.560 --> 1:26:59.760
<v Speaker 15>of the betting public really doesn't quite understand some of

1:26:59.800 --> 1:27:02.719
<v Speaker 15>the new wants that go into wagering on the NFL.

1:27:03.240 --> 1:27:05.680
<v Speaker 15>And you know, the books have been around for a

1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:08.840
<v Speaker 15>long time. They know what they're doing. They're sharp for

1:27:08.920 --> 1:27:12.240
<v Speaker 15>a reason, and it's difficult to find edges against them

1:27:12.280 --> 1:27:14.320
<v Speaker 15>if you don't really know where to look or if

1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:17.280
<v Speaker 15>you're going, you know, with your guts. So it's it's

1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:19.600
<v Speaker 15>one of those things where the casual better. You know,

1:27:19.680 --> 1:27:22.160
<v Speaker 15>they tend to lean in on the vibes, and you

1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.920
<v Speaker 15>know they bet with incomplete info, you know, name value

1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:26.560
<v Speaker 15>things like that.

1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many times you know, a

1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>buddy of mine, you know, in the group, Chech goes

1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>he's due, He's due for a big one. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not how this goes.

1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:38.680
<v Speaker 15>When we talk about what sharps do, sharps bet with

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<v Speaker 15>data and expected value margins.

1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:43.719
<v Speaker 3>So when we talk.

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<v Speaker 15>About some of those things, the expected value is really

1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:51.080
<v Speaker 15>when we when we see a line by the book,

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<v Speaker 15>it has a implied probability of what the book is

1:27:54.600 --> 1:28:00.639
<v Speaker 15>expecting to happen with this line, and frequently we as

1:28:00.760 --> 1:28:03.200
<v Speaker 15>casual betters just don't take that into account.

1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>And when we have a projection based against.

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<v Speaker 15>That, that's really where you get in between the margins

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<v Speaker 15>and find where the real value in the market are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love the gut angle to that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, you know they've lost three straight so they're due.

1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, you know they played a three to four

1:28:19.600 --> 1:28:22.200
<v Speaker 2>a month ago and they do really too well against

1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>that defense. And you know, running back X really knows

1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>how to hit, you know, the the outside run and

1:28:28.479 --> 1:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>where that's where it's going to go. He's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a big day, you know. I think he's gonna have

1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>one hundred yard day. And it's like, if you're thinking

1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>that don't you think the teams are thinking that? And

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<v Speaker 2>don't they like adjust when that happens. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>like there are people, as you just said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>in so many words, there are people out there that

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<v Speaker 2>just know more than you do. I think gut, I

1:28:52.280 --> 1:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>think gut. Anything is bad. They trust your gut. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not no analyze it and make your best call

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<v Speaker 2>anything in life, but certainly.

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<v Speaker 1>With game right Yeah, no, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean your gut might tell you one thing, but

1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:08.479
<v Speaker 15>when you break into the data, it can tell you

1:29:08.680 --> 1:29:14.400
<v Speaker 15>something entirely different in regards to where you should be targeting.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of this.

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<v Speaker 15>Stuff comes from It's a similar thing with fantasy football.

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<v Speaker 15>A lot of this comes with name value and people see, oh,

1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:26.120
<v Speaker 15>I have X receiver that I have to play every

1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:27.519
<v Speaker 15>single week because you.

1:29:27.560 --> 1:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Know I drafted him highly or something like that.

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<v Speaker 15>It's a very similar thing where the public loves to

1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:36.920
<v Speaker 15>bet on guys that are bigger names, and sometimes that's

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<v Speaker 15>just not where it is.

1:29:37.960 --> 1:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Because the books pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 15>They bet these lines, they know where the money's coming in,

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<v Speaker 15>and they adjust accordingly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got this thing at pro Footballfocus dot Com.

1:29:47.360 --> 1:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>It's the player prop tool, and we talked about gut.

1:29:51.040 --> 1:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Now this tool obviously collates and gets as much information

1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to the betting public as possible. But this one is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is getting burnt by overs, getting burnt by

1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>an over. To me, if you get burned there, that's

1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like the easiest thing to fix, because you should never

1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>be getting burnt by overs. Is that one of the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest things to fix?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, Yet it's so overs all in all

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<v Speaker 1>aren't all bad.

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<v Speaker 15>It's just you have to be more selective with the

1:30:25.960 --> 1:30:28.360
<v Speaker 15>matchups in the spot that you pick. It sort of

1:30:28.400 --> 1:30:30.920
<v Speaker 15>goes into what we were just saying, where the casual

1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:34.600
<v Speaker 15>betters they go to take the big name to go

1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:37.920
<v Speaker 15>over big lines, and that's just not where the value

1:30:38.000 --> 1:30:41.240
<v Speaker 15>lies in the market. The real game of betting is

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<v Speaker 15>finding the value versus what the book is expecting. So

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<v Speaker 15>just an example, say Von Barkley. We all know excellent player,

1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:52.280
<v Speaker 15>excellent running back, phenomenal dude, and he continues to be

1:30:52.479 --> 1:30:56.880
<v Speaker 15>priced very, very high with both his average yardage line

1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:59.960
<v Speaker 15>this season sits around about eighty two and a half yards.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane when we.

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<v Speaker 15>Talk about he's only exceeded that expectation three times this season,

1:31:07.880 --> 1:31:10.479
<v Speaker 15>so betters are going to continue to go and pour

1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:14.679
<v Speaker 15>money on his overs where even when it doesn't really

1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:15.439
<v Speaker 15>match up.

1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>The underplays are strong there.

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<v Speaker 15>Now, it's not just the sweeping, you know, proclamation of

1:31:21.920 --> 1:31:25.160
<v Speaker 15>only take unders. It's more of a we have to

1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:29.280
<v Speaker 15>be more selective with our over bets versus where we

1:31:29.760 --> 1:31:32.960
<v Speaker 15>take unders, because especially with some of these big names,

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<v Speaker 15>the name value is priced into their line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think what's going on with a lot

1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of these folks that struggle with that is it's emotion.

1:31:44.400 --> 1:31:47.479
<v Speaker 2>It's an emotional thing. You mentioned, like in fantasy football,

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<v Speaker 2>you draft the guy, Hey, I'm going to play this guy.

1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>It took him in the second round. Even if the

1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>guys a stiff and not having a good season, you

1:31:53.880 --> 1:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>keep playing him thinking, you know, it's just a matter

1:31:55.920 --> 1:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>of time he's going to hit his stride. So I

1:31:57.960 --> 1:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>think what we're talking about here is distracting the emotion

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<v Speaker 2>out of the equation and bringing more facts into the equation.

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<v Speaker 2>Would that be a good way of putting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way We're chatting with Mason Cameron Profootballfocus dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, it's the most analytical website for any

1:32:16.640 --> 1:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>sport anywhere that's out there, and he, as I said,

1:32:20.200 --> 1:32:24.120
<v Speaker 2>as they're wagering, guru, give me an example of a

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<v Speaker 2>player this year, don't matter whether he's a running back, quarterback,

1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver. Give me an example of one player this

1:32:30.360 --> 1:32:33.720
<v Speaker 2>year who is true to form to the stats that

1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>you have seen on that player before any given week.

1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Is there anybody that just more often than not hits

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<v Speaker 2>the mark.

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<v Speaker 15>So it's difficult to say completely because what happens is

1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:52.240
<v Speaker 15>books really do make these adjustments and they probably address

1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:56.400
<v Speaker 15>better than anybody in the business on what they're seeing

1:32:56.640 --> 1:32:59.160
<v Speaker 15>on the field and analytics.

1:32:58.640 --> 1:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>That they're seeing.

1:33:00.680 --> 1:33:04.240
<v Speaker 15>But what we do see is that frequently it's these

1:33:04.320 --> 1:33:08.720
<v Speaker 15>players that you don't really see a ton of, or

1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:13.080
<v Speaker 15>players with lower lines that hit more frequently. You know,

1:33:13.479 --> 1:33:16.640
<v Speaker 15>just as one example, Alex Pierce is a guy that

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<v Speaker 15>I love to bet in situations where he sees man coverage,

1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:24.160
<v Speaker 15>coles wide receiver, ALC piers where he sees man coverage

1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:27.360
<v Speaker 15>or single high coverages, because that is a guy that

1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:30.719
<v Speaker 15>gets the ball in those situations. He has a higher

1:33:31.240 --> 1:33:34.880
<v Speaker 15>yards per route run instance in those. Now, again it

1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:38.360
<v Speaker 15>really depends on how books are viewing this to see

1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:42.679
<v Speaker 15>where the value lies, because again, betting isn't necessarily about saying, hey,

1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:46.800
<v Speaker 15>this player good, but it's also about analyzing every piece

1:33:46.880 --> 1:33:49.040
<v Speaker 15>of it as well as the probability of them to

1:33:49.160 --> 1:33:52.559
<v Speaker 15>hit the line, as well as the value given based

1:33:52.720 --> 1:33:56.479
<v Speaker 15>on how books are pricing it. So that's one example,

1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:59.479
<v Speaker 15>and I'll have another one here or you hear it

1:33:59.560 --> 1:33:59.960
<v Speaker 15>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working on some of these Thanksgiving games and

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<v Speaker 1>I have one that I like that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give to all the listeners here at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet Sweet, Absolutely, And I guess a lot of it

1:34:12.160 --> 1:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>depends on hell too. By the way, Pierce former University

1:34:15.120 --> 1:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>of Cincinnati standout, and I think a lot of it

1:34:18.720 --> 1:34:21.519
<v Speaker 2>depends on health. Pierce has had the same quarterback all year.

1:34:21.760 --> 1:34:25.840
<v Speaker 2>A guy like Jamar Chase is a mercurial because Joe

1:34:25.920 --> 1:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Burrow has been out for the majority of the season,

1:34:28.120 --> 1:34:30.639
<v Speaker 2>So I think that too would have to factor into

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<v Speaker 2>it as well.

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<v Speaker 15>Right, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely circumstances. So just as a great example,

1:34:38.080 --> 1:34:42.639
<v Speaker 15>this week, we saw lines fluctuate quite a bit regarding

1:34:42.720 --> 1:34:45.840
<v Speaker 15>like a guy like T Higgins, where T Higgins was

1:34:46.080 --> 1:34:50.920
<v Speaker 15>playing a matchup against a Patriots defense that is susceptible

1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:54.120
<v Speaker 15>to some deep balls, is susceptible.

1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Through the passing game.

1:34:55.439 --> 1:34:58.960
<v Speaker 15>And you know, when throughout the week we're talking about

1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:01.720
<v Speaker 15>Joe Burrow potentially coming back, and there wasn't really a

1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:04.280
<v Speaker 15>you know for sure until I think it was maybe

1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:06.760
<v Speaker 15>Friday when we knew that, okay, he's not going to

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<v Speaker 15>be coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>In the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Itself adjust based on that info.

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<v Speaker 15>So it is good to get in early, to get

1:35:13.920 --> 1:35:17.000
<v Speaker 15>in often, and to really shop the lines throughout the

1:35:17.080 --> 1:35:20.040
<v Speaker 15>week and find the right time to jump on a

1:35:20.120 --> 1:35:23.559
<v Speaker 15>specific line that you might like, whether it be an

1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:26.600
<v Speaker 15>over on a lower line or an under on a

1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:27.240
<v Speaker 15>higher line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, Burrow is back, and you know

1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>he's he's playing in this game tonight, And I'm just

1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just wondering as you look at that game. I

1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:40.439
<v Speaker 2>think the last and latest line I saw on this

1:35:40.600 --> 1:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>game was Baltimore minus seven. What do you expect from Burrow?

1:35:44.680 --> 1:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>And what do you think plays out in this game

1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>for Cincinnati win loss, or or what? How do you

1:35:50.960 --> 1:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>see it?

1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:54.720
<v Speaker 3>So this one is definitely a difficult read.

1:35:55.120 --> 1:35:59.040
<v Speaker 15>On the surface, I think that the plus seven isn't

1:35:59.120 --> 1:36:03.800
<v Speaker 15>a bad look. It's a little difficult on the road,

1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:08.000
<v Speaker 15>I would say, particularly when we've seen what we've seen

1:36:08.200 --> 1:36:13.200
<v Speaker 15>from this Baltimore Ravens defense after their adjustments, So this

1:36:13.400 --> 1:36:17.760
<v Speaker 15>is a great team making adjustments. What the Ravens did

1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.639
<v Speaker 15>is they did a similar thing this last season where

1:36:20.680 --> 1:36:24.920
<v Speaker 15>they move Kyle Hamilton around. They've had issues inside in

1:36:25.000 --> 1:36:28.320
<v Speaker 15>the box, so they actually took Kyle Hamilton from a

1:36:28.479 --> 1:36:29.800
<v Speaker 15>deep free safety look.

1:36:30.160 --> 1:36:33.040
<v Speaker 1>They brought him more into the box. He plays more slot.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up there with being one of.

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<v Speaker 15>Their Petter linebackers, and they love to get him in

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<v Speaker 15>situations where he can affect the game and where he

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<v Speaker 15>can draw attention. So one of the looks that this

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<v Speaker 15>Ravens team likes to do is they do a double

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<v Speaker 15>mug blitz look where they bring Kyle Hamilton and Smith

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<v Speaker 15>into the right onto the A gaps and then they'll

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<v Speaker 15>stunt out of it and bring the pressure and.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring the heat.

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<v Speaker 15>So really a big decider for this one is going

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<v Speaker 15>to be how Joe Burrow plays against the blitz and

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<v Speaker 15>against that stunt look in particular. And he's actually had

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<v Speaker 15>a pretty solid career sample of being able to beat

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<v Speaker 15>the blitz, so there is some potential.

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<v Speaker 1>There for the plus seven it's it's going to really

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<v Speaker 1>come down to if the defense can hold Lamar down

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the total is a big number here too,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one and a half. You know, I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>banking on the fact that the Bengals defense isn't all

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<v Speaker 2>that good and that Burrow is back. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>hefty number. So was that your special you were promising

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<v Speaker 2>us here, Mason? Was that the special I got?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>You got another one?

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<v Speaker 3>I got?

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<v Speaker 1>I got one more for you.

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<v Speaker 15>So what i'mk in here this week is it's actually

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<v Speaker 15>going to be an over And this is one of

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<v Speaker 15>those spots where we do, like I said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 15>it is a bigger name, but it is one where

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<v Speaker 15>the books sort of have this price a little bit

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<v Speaker 15>lower than I would have expected, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 15>sort of attack on an over margin here. But when

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<v Speaker 15>I look at a guy like Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>Love playing Detroit, and we see Detroit.

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<v Speaker 15>This is a defense that runs one of the highest

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<v Speaker 15>man coverage rates in the NFL. And even with you know,

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<v Speaker 15>they've had some injuries in the back end there, even

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<v Speaker 15>with some guys potentially coming back this week, that's one

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<v Speaker 15>of those things where man coverage is a difficult scheme

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<v Speaker 15>to run at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we talk about what Jordan Love has been

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<v Speaker 1>able to produce against man coverage looks this season.

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<v Speaker 15>He's the highest rated passer in the NFL against man coverage,

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<v Speaker 15>and his passing yardage line right now is two twenty

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<v Speaker 15>eight and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Our projection on the tool.

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<v Speaker 15>Sits about nine yards higher than that, at about two

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<v Speaker 15>thirty seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow, Well, we'll see that. Looks like a smart

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<v Speaker 2>play as well. At any event, we'll get answers. You're

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<v Speaker 2>starting at about about a half an hour a little

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<v Speaker 2>more than that, Okay, Mason Cameron, thanks for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>You stay well and we will visit down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Take take care.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet, you bet. It's eleven fifty six on this

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving morning. Sterling is next on the home of your

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bengals. Seven hundred W l W