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Speaker 1: Six five one carpets plus studio guardsy in for Barrero today?

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Speaker 2: What day is it? Tuesday? December thirtieth?

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Speaker 1: The brat Shawn Brian camfeg in text line six four

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Speaker 1: six eighty six. That's open. The talk back is open.

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Speaker 1: We might service some of those as well. Brett blakemore

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Speaker 1: here for his double shift. Bratt, you typically work on Saturdays, correct?

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Speaker 1: I do what follows beyond the pond ten to noon

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Speaker 1: because beyond the pond is ten to noon, right, that's

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Speaker 1: correct on most Saturdays. So what usually happens on Saturdays

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Speaker 1: at noon? Do we kick it right to a game?

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Speaker 1: Is it usually Fox programming? Is it like the podcast

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Speaker 1: of the week for iHeartRadio? What usually comes up?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm old enough to remember when it was Saturdays

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Speaker 3: with Sauce those were the days or rest in Peace?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, along with the Cake Show, those were the days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's either a game.

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Speaker 3: It could be the Westwood or no, the iHeart Podcast

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Speaker 3: of the week could be a variety things or just

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Speaker 3: kicking it to the bird for Fox.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if we can find the podcast of the

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Speaker 1: week music somewhere like a liner from one of the

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Speaker 1: random Saturdays, because that's what I feel like I'm doing

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm following beyond the pond with Kevin Falness.

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Speaker 1: There was no Mikletti, which is disappointing, but it was Halve,

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Speaker 1: it was Russo, it was.

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Speaker 4: Who was just on?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who was on, John ROSSI, NHL Network,

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Speaker 1: NHL Network. I've got NHL Network on and here I

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's beyond the pond and we will

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Speaker 2: believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little hockey today because it is Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: one of the World Junior Ambassadors, lou Nanny, will make

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Speaker 1: his weekly appearance on Bumper to Bumper. He will join me,

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Speaker 1: I believe at five thirty his thoughts on the tournament

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Speaker 1: so far. I want to get your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: tournament so far, Brett, as a guy who's attended as

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Speaker 1: a proud American. I am heading tomorrow. They play Sweden

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Speaker 1: tomorrow right at Grand Casino Arena.

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Speaker 4: Good game.

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Speaker 2: That one is for Group A supremacy.

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Speaker 1: Right We're already in the quarterfinals and Group A supremacy

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Speaker 1: is on the line tomorrow. Right here on the fan

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Speaker 1: after the wild game, if you.

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Speaker 3: Want to most likely avoid Canada until the gold medal game.

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Speaker 4: You gotta win, Oh, you gotta be Sweden.

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Speaker 1: But Canada seems like they're kind of scuffling a little bit. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they are about to win Group B. They have a

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Speaker 1: game tomorrow for Group B supremacy as well. Right, didn't

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Speaker 1: they just grind by somebody like two to one. I know, McKenna,

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Speaker 1: your guy, right, Gavin his name. He had a hat

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Speaker 1: trick the other day that just beat somebody nine to one.

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Speaker 1: But I thought they were I thought the Canadians were

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Speaker 1: scuffling a little bit and none of their fans are

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Speaker 1: coming down.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been told. The arena is good for

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Speaker 2: the Canadian games. Is that fair?

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Speaker 1: I've been reading that nobody wants to come. Ticket sales

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Speaker 1: are bad. They shouldn't have had it in the state

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Speaker 1: of hockey. We're going to get to that, I think,

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Speaker 1: maybe even as recently as next segment. But I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to h to going tomorrow because it looks awesome,

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a blast. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm I've been in the last week. I've been.

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Speaker 1: If you want to brind it out, in the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I've been to Des Moines, Iowa. Your town. Yes,

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Speaker 1: to Bloomington, Indiana, Barreros town, and that is a football town.

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Speaker 1: Now they have Rose Bowl stuff all over the place.

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Speaker 1: I was there whatever day. This is Tuesday. So I

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Speaker 1: When it was a guaranteed rate bull, you were fine,

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Speaker 1: It's one of those where you question your life's choices,

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Speaker 1: you question your ancestors. I question I think the first

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Speaker 1: He looks a lot like me. No surprise, we have

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Speaker 1: and that's where you just question your ancestors' decisions, like

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Speaker 1: we couldn't have been a part of the gold Rush,

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Speaker 1: Like we couldn't have, you know, westward expansion manifest destiny.

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Speaker 1: And I've told my children, like we're breaking that curse.

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Speaker 2: What is going on? It's like seventy two degrees.

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Speaker 1: Tell Barrero in me six four six eighty six. So

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Speaker 1: The snowstorm started on Sunday, Yes, Sunday into Monday. So

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Speaker 1: Is dreadful today. I get home last night, we land

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Speaker 1: So here is my day today? Not that anybody ask

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Speaker 1: Does it make any sense that our roads are this bad?

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Speaker 4: Prep time, you know what I mean. Retreat the roads anymore,

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Speaker 1: And I know down south they got even they got pounded,

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Speaker 1: So we can blame the rain, we can blame how

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Speaker 4: Since that cares, yeah, taking away plow money.

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Speaker 3: Don't care how the storm was two days later. Is

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Speaker 3: when the snowfall stopped. Yeah, is that standard protocol here

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Speaker 3: as long as I've lived here.

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Speaker 2: That was a little ambitious. Maybe that was a little

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Speaker 2: Did you get here on time? It was close? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I bet it was.

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Speaker 1: And I know you were in a rush to talk

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Speaker 1: about this game, and oh that was I know you

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Speaker 1: were really fired up. I know Kevin Seaford is fired

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Speaker 1: up to talk about this game. Speaking of Gutty. He

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Speaker 1: made the trip in. He does not find the Virginian

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Speaker 1: you know, the East Metro guy, he's not, or the

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Speaker 1: East Coast guy. He's not daunted. He showed up in

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Speaker 1: studio texts for Seaffert. He's gonna be here for a

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Speaker 1: while because I don't think you should leave. I think

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Speaker 1: Kevin Seaffert in studio when we come back.

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Speaker 1: and now joining us in studio.

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Speaker 2: He'll be in studio for a minute.

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Speaker 1: You can hit the bratch on Brian Kampe in tax

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Speaker 1: line six four six eighty six with questions for the

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Speaker 1: reporter from ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm good, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I will report that four ninety four is pretty clear

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Speaker 6: right now, as is one hundred. But once you get

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Speaker 6: off the freeways, it's anybody's ball game.

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Speaker 1: You've done you did some your reporters, so when you

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Speaker 1: walked in, you actually did the research to let us

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Speaker 1: know why the roads may be in the condition that

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Speaker 1: they're still in.

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Speaker 2: Anything you'd like to.

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Speaker 6: See, I mean, I can only report what's on the

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Speaker 6: m DOT website, which says when pavement temperature drops below

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Speaker 6: fifteen fahrenheit, the effectiveness of salt is decreased significantly. And

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Speaker 6: I didn't keep a minute by minute logging of the

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Speaker 6: temperatures yesterday, but I'm it was cold, yes and so

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Speaker 6: like wayblow fifteen and so. According to the website, at

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Speaker 6: lower temperatures, m DOT will begin adding other chemicals to

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Speaker 6: the salt, such as calcium chloride or magnesium chloride that

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Speaker 6: will lower the freezing point.

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Speaker 2: Further. Okay, so where is that?

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Speaker 6: I think that this is an issue of calcium chloride

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Speaker 6: magnesium chloride, and that's where the rub is. And so

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Speaker 6: if any biochemists want to call in, or any m

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Speaker 6: DOT people want to call in and let us let

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Speaker 6: you know, because I'm okay, but let you know if

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Speaker 6: if that was in fact applied, and if not, who's

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Speaker 6: who's to answer to that?

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Speaker 2: Do you drive Alexis t X four wheel drive?

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Speaker 5: So I didn't, but don't.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you devoted an entire first segment just to

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Speaker 6: let the audience know what you drive.

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Speaker 2: December sales events another week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to know.

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Speaker 1: Never been a better time to get Alexis. I recommend

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Speaker 1: Lexus of Visetta or a Lexis of maple. Would do

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Speaker 1: you think all those things that those chemicals you just mentioned?

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Speaker 1: Could I stake my children into creating those somehow? In

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Speaker 1: their time away from school where all they want to

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Speaker 1: do is play Xbox right now?

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Speaker 2: Could I give them something?

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Speaker 6: In the old days, we used to get like chemical kits.

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Speaker 6: Chemistry kits, Remember those were fun for some kids, may

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Speaker 6: or may not have been me, but you know, we

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Speaker 6: used to We used to like pour all different kinds

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Speaker 6: of stuff together and see what blew up. So yes,

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Speaker 6: as long as you're aware that the wrong chemicals mixing

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Speaker 6: together can cause an explosion.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you for doing the reporting there, and

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Speaker 2: we will move on. Thirty three minutes into the show,

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Speaker 2: we'll move on. I think we have when we have

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Speaker 2: our answer, Yeah, we do. You got here.

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Speaker 1: You started covering the vikings for the Star Tribune White

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Speaker 1: Year nineteen ninety nine, nineteen ninety nine, and then you

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Speaker 1: went right from there to NFC North blogger right correct

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Speaker 1: for ESPN, and then you had like a couple of

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Speaker 1: gap years right where you weren't the NFC North blogger.

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Speaker 5: A couple of nine years.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, and then you came back to cover the

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Speaker 1: team right among other things. Long lined up to say,

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Speaker 1: how many border battles have been less anticipated than the

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Speaker 1: one we're about to see this weekend.

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Speaker 5: I mean it might like it might be the worst.

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Speaker 6: There was the year that they had such a quarterback

533
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Speaker 6: depth issue and so many guys were getting hurt that

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Speaker 6: I think Brooks Bollinger ended up darting.

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Speaker 5: A game at Lambeau.

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Speaker 6: That game was interesting just to see, you know, Brooks play,

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Speaker 6: because he was a good guy. We enjoyed covering him,

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Speaker 6: and uh, it was kind of cool that a local

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Speaker 6: guy was good. It was going to start a regular

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Speaker 6: season game, much like your guy, Uh, Max. There was

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Speaker 6: some drama and interest in that game, but this one

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Speaker 6: is about as consequence free as they get.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: It's too bad, like it's What's funny to me is

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Speaker 1: that the Vikings can somehow end up with a winning

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Speaker 1: record this season.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Virons win, and I mean we know

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Speaker 6: the Packers are already locked in to the seventh seed,

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Speaker 6: and so if the Vikings win, they'll finish the year

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Speaker 6: essentially a half game out of the playoffs, because the

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Speaker 6: Packers have that tie with the Cowboys, changing their record

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Speaker 6: arounds it would be nine to seven to one and

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Speaker 6: nine and eight, and so it'll it'll lead to an

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Speaker 6: entire offseasons of what ifs and if only this and

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Speaker 6: I and I posted something on on X about it,

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Speaker 6: and the conversation was actually pretty interesting and in depth,

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Speaker 6: and almost every responder on social media had a different

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Speaker 6: point in the season where if that one thing had changed,

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Speaker 6: the Vikings would be in the playoffs, whether it was

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Speaker 6: the kick return against Chicago when they thought they had

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Speaker 6: that game lined up or you know, this interception or

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Speaker 6: that decision, And so I don't it will be interesting

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Speaker 6: to see eight nine or nine and eight how this

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Speaker 6: end of year winning streak will affect not only I

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Speaker 6: don't think it will affect the Vikings decision making a

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Speaker 6: whole lot in the off season, but how it affects

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Speaker 6: just the way people feel about the season in general.

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Speaker 2: Which team is more likely to have their starting quarterback play?

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Speaker 5: Well, if it sound like the Packers are zero percent.

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Speaker 6: Even if Jordan Love you know, gets out a concussion protocol,

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Speaker 6: which I think people believe he will, if he hasn't already,

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Speaker 6: there's no reason to play him.

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Speaker 5: And it sounds like they're already on record saying it's

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Speaker 5: not so he's.

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Speaker 2: Got a shoulder thing too. He's dealing much.

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Speaker 6: Right, Milke Willis has a shoulder for sure. But Jordan Love,

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Speaker 6: I know he's was in the protocol and that's the

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Speaker 6: reason he didn't play it last week. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: from I understand, like the Vikings really, you know, they

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Speaker 6: really want JJ McCarthy to play this game. Well they should, yeah,

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Speaker 6: And so you know, there's definitely the line of thought of, well,

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Speaker 6: it's a throwaway game, like he's you know, let's not

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Speaker 6: set him up for another injury or or set him

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Speaker 6: back in the off season when he really has a

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Speaker 6: lot of work to do ahead of him from a

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Speaker 6: you know, mechanical and fundamentals and just you know, base

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Speaker 6: balanced body, building up his body and all those things.

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Speaker 6: And so I guess an injury and in this game

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Speaker 6: could set that process back. But look, he's missed too

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Speaker 6: much time already. We've we've talked so much about and

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Speaker 6: I agree that, you know, he's in need of snaps

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Speaker 6: more than anything else in terms of his development and progress.

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Speaker 6: And so we even talked a few weeks ago about

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Speaker 6: whether they should have played him more in the preseason.

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Speaker 6: And this is one at least a half step up

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Speaker 6: from a preseason game. I think, you know, because it'll

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Speaker 6: count in the record book and the stats will count,

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Speaker 6: and so it's a little bit more significant than that.

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Speaker 6: And so even if it's just that kind of vibe,

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Speaker 6: you know, a preseason he kind of game like snaps decisions,

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Speaker 6: seeing you know, building the muscle memory of his mechanics,

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Speaker 6: like all good things. And you know, you don't want

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Speaker 6: to go out there when he doesn't really feel good

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Speaker 6: about whether he can throw, you know, physically throw the

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Speaker 6: ball because of the hand. But I think that they

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Speaker 6: feel from a medical standpoint that it's it's at least

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Speaker 6: possible that he will be able to do it.

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Speaker 1: How much discussion has there been about is he just

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Speaker 1: unlucky this season or is he injury prone?

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Speaker 6: The discussion that I think is interesting is not is

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Speaker 6: really not either. It's more like play style, like if

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Speaker 6: you go to you know, some of the injuries, at

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Speaker 6: least I mean the knee, he was just running in

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Speaker 6: the open field, you know that he's trying to make

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Speaker 6: a move on a guy. And I think when they

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Speaker 6: when they went and slewthed it back out, they found

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Speaker 6: a point where he had sort of cut, you know,

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Speaker 6: and tried to break a tackle. And when he suffered

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Speaker 6: his ankle injury. He was trying to run for a

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Speaker 6: first down on third and sixteen and didn't slide and

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Speaker 6: didn't try to avoid contact, which is admirable but got

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Speaker 6: him hurt. The you know, this hand thing was either

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Speaker 6: it appears as though it happened when he was extending

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Speaker 6: a play outside of the pocket, and I hadn't really

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Speaker 6: thrown in rhythm per se, and in the concussion he

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Speaker 6: was running, you know, kind of not wildly, but like

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Speaker 6: in a way that like you don't really need to

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Speaker 6: do that, you know, whether the game's over or not.

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Speaker 6: And so and I asked Justin Jefferson about this either

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Speaker 6: last week or the week before, like, you know, does

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Speaker 6: do you do you think he needs to change his

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Speaker 6: play style? And he kind of said, well, he still

633
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Speaker 6: plays like he's a kid. And that was a perfect

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Speaker 6: explanation of the way JJ McCarthy plays. It's fun to watch,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's probably fun to be around, and you know,

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Speaker 6: and it's you know, it's contagious, but he's just he

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Speaker 6: and Josh Allen can do it. But he's not Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: He's not six or five, he's not two hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty pounds. He's not built to take that kind of

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Speaker 6: hit as much as he you know, is a hockey

641
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Speaker 6: player at heart and loves the contact. And it's helped

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Speaker 6: them in some cases where he's just been willing to

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Speaker 6: keep you know, trying to get extra yards to get

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Speaker 6: first downs or in some cases touchdowns. So it's been

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Speaker 6: beneficial on the field, but it is not beneficial in

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Speaker 6: the long term, and so it's hard to know, like biologically,

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Speaker 6: if he's more prone to have damnag, he's not built

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Speaker 6: like a guy that can take right.

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Speaker 2: I think he.

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Speaker 6: Averages like ten quarterback contacts a game, whether it's a

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Speaker 6: sack or a tackle or a just a hit in

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Speaker 6: the pocket, and that's one of the highest rates in

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Speaker 6: the league.

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Speaker 5: And he's just not built.

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Speaker 6: And not many guys are at this level built to

656
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Speaker 6: take those kind of hits a year after year and

657
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 6: still play a seventeen games. And so there's a there's

658
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: definitely an art to avoiding contact and you're not being

659
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 6: a woos and you're not being soft, you're just being

660
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Speaker 6: you're just max optimizing the chance that you can be

661
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Speaker 6: there for your team. And so Tom Brady talked a

662
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Speaker 6: lot about this when he played, and it wasn't by

663
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: accident that he was playing after he tore his ACL

664
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Speaker 6: that he was playing, you know, seventeen sixteen, seventeen games

665
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Speaker 6: a year every year into his forties. There's there's an

666
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 6: art and a science and a and a skill level

667
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Speaker 6: in avoiding contact and anticipating it.

668
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Speaker 5: And the number one thing is getting rid of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, but is not his athleticism somewhat of a like

670
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Speaker 1: a beneficial factor for him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but it's like it needs to There's time

672
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 6: and place for it, for sure, but there has the

673
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Speaker 6: skill in the art of avoiding the direct hits needs

674
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Speaker 6: to be. Like you think about the touchdown he scored

675
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 6: in New York and Okonle talked about it and he

676
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 6: you know, he thought he'd had a concussion again because

677
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 6: he lowered his head and went into some guy and

678
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 6: as it turned out, the contact wasn't as severe as

679
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 6: it looked from far away. But you know, whether you

680
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 6: need to just get lower or slide and just live

681
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 6: for another day. I know a lot of these his

682
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 6: touchdown runs have been on third downs, so I get it,

683
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: and one might want the gritty one was on fourth

684
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 6: down in Dallas, and so you know, I get the mentality.

685
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 6: But you weigh it all and like you will not

686
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 6: play seventeen games routinely in the NFL by taking the

687
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Speaker 6: amount of hits that he takes.

688
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about I was watching the Monday No

689
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Speaker 1: Sunday night game.

690
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: What a great game, Bears Niners? Did you catch my short?

691
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Did every bit of it?

692
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Speaker 1: And you know brock perty was playing like a kid

693
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: on that one touchdown right, like he could have gotten

694
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Speaker 1: smoked a couple of times. But so that's what made

695
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: me think of the play like a kid like. And

696
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I think even Collins were said that same phrase, Oh

697
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: he's playing like a kid out there, just running around.

698
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 6: Unbelievable when he took off like he was not close

699
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 6: to being like I can't remember exactly. I don't think

700
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 6: he took a lot of you direct hit on either

701
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Speaker 6: one of those. No, I think you had two rushing

702
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 6: touchdowns and so and it's not just like the lucky

703
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: because the defense like it's vision, it's like it's it's knowing.

704
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: You know what direction to turn and how far to

705
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: push it.

706
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Speaker 6: Like, there's definitely as much as he can learn to

707
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 6: be more accurate, as much as he can learn to uh,

708
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 6: you know, all the different things a quarterback can do,

709
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 6: like learning to avoid contact is a skill.

710
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Speaker 2: All right, Seaffert will be here for a little while.

711
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Speaker 1: You can hit the Bradshaw Brian kfin text line six

712
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Speaker 1: four six eight six the a topic this week, and

713
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Speaker 1: Egan appears to be the Floonomi future the future of

714
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Speaker 1: Brian Flores.

715
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Speaker 2: I know you wrote about it.

716
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Speaker 1: And I also watched a video that chef he put

717
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Speaker 1: together on it because ESPN gives you both of those options.

718
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Speaker 2: Yes, I did both. I appreciate that. And you, being the.

719
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Speaker 1: Venerable veteran reporter that you are, straight up ass flow today.

720
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, do you want to be here? Yeah? Here's

721
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: what he said.

722
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Speaker 7: Uh do I want to come back? I mean, I'm

723
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 7: like I just said, I love Minnesota. I love this team.

724
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 7: I love working you know for and with Ko. You know,

725
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 7: he's been fantastic to me. I think the Wolfs are

726
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 7: you know, some of the best owners in the league.

727
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 7: I love these players, the coaching staff, you know, And

728
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 7: like I said, you know this this place has shown

729
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 7: me a lot of love and I show it right back.

730
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Speaker 2: And so.

731
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Speaker 8: I don't know how much more more there is to it.

732
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's if everything lines up and it's

733
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Speaker 8: and it's and it fits, you know, from a from

734
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Speaker 8: a football standpoint, it fits, you know, And I think

735
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 8: there's there's always a you know, it's called a business

736
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 8: part of this, and the football all lines up and

737
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Speaker 8: you know, we'll just see where it all where it

738
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Speaker 8: all goes.

739
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Speaker 1: So if I was putting together a TikTok of that

740
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Speaker 1: what I need to then throw Jerry maguire, show me

741
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Speaker 1: the money on the back end of that, How did

742
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Speaker 1: you how do you decipher and decode what Flow had.

743
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Speaker 2: To say today?

744
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that that's kind of the simplest explanation

745
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 6: is that he was just basically saying, like the business

746
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 6: side of it now? Is the business side only money?

747
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: Is it? You know?

748
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 6: Some kind of other you know, guarantees that he wants

749
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Speaker 6: in terms of you know, I mean it doesn't happen

750
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Speaker 6: much in the NFL, but like succession plans, if you know,

751
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 6: if Kevin O'Connell ever decided to go sit on a

752
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 6: on a beach in Bermuda instead of being a coach,

753
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 6: you know, there's and I'm not saying that this is

754
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 6: what he's asking for, but I'm just trying to think

755
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 6: out loud of other things other than just straight finances,

756
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 6: Like is there some commitment, whether it's in writing or not,

757
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 6: in terms of supporting the defensive personnel choices that he

758
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 6: wants in ensuring that a certain amount of you know,

759
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 6: money is always spent on the defense. Again, not sure

760
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 6: that that's what he's asking for, but there's I suppose

761
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: there's other potential things other than just straight you know, money,

762
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Speaker 6: because I think if it was money, you know, I

763
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 6: don't think think that you know, we would be here

764
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 6: right now. And so I I and so that you know,

765
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Speaker 6: when you ask him do you want to come back

766
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Speaker 6: and he tells you what he just said, he never

767
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 6: said yes, I want to come back, right So that

768
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 6: was the other part. But I think that that's you know,

769
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 6: he's gone gotten this close to free agency coaches. This

770
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 6: almost never happens, and so there's no reason not to

771
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Speaker 6: let it play out for a little bit. The vikings

772
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Speaker 6: are not going to you. I don't think put a

773
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Speaker 6: deadline on and say, if you don't tell us by

774
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Speaker 6: next Monday, you know, good luck and good riddance. You know,

775
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 6: they're going to let it play out, and they're going

776
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Speaker 6: to hope that their offer and their familiarity they have

777
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Speaker 6: and the freedom he has here in terms of scheme

778
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Speaker 6: and in terms of personnel and the influence he has

779
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Speaker 6: on personnel, will be a package that is the most

780
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 6: desirable to him. But he can't know that unless he

781
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 6: gets out there. And probably there's been some behind the

782
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 6: scenes talks, as there always are, even though tampering rules exist,

783
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Speaker 6: but I think in terms of getting the fullest pitch,

784
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 6: you're like, you would have to wait until that point.

785
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Speaker 1: Tampering rules they exist in college football as well.

786
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: Is that right?

787
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: They do apparently, But people in the know have told

788
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: me about a concept called pre portaling, just I guess

789
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: conversations with people somehow, some way before they actually go

790
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: into the portal. It's a fancy way of saying tampering, pregaming,

791
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: pre portaling, so flow maybe doing some pre portaling.

792
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: How rare is it to have a coach with his you.

793
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: Know, obviously record as a coach here and clearly respect

794
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to get what koc said about him earlier

795
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: in the week, like how did they get to this

796
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: point where his contract is that that they all decided

797
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: we're going to just let this thing run its course

798
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: and see where we are in a year. What was

799
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: the thinking behind that?

800
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Speaker 6: As far as you know, you know, I think it

801
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 6: was mostly on Floris's side, and not not so much

802
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: that he wanted out, which I mean, the number one

803
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: way reason to that you would do this is that

804
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 6: you want to be able to leave your contract. You

805
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 6: want to be able to leave your job without getting fired,

806
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: I guess, And so I don't think he was going

807
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 6: to be fired, and so the in theory, the reason

808
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 6: to do this is to give yourself a chance to

809
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 6: go somewhere else if you don't like it anymore, you know,

810
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 6: in the in sort of the loftiest, most optimistic thing

811
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 6: is it's a way to to ensure that the good

812
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 6: job that you've done is rewarded or and appreciated and

813
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 6: potentially desired in a different way by another club. And

814
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 6: just doesn't happen very much because most coordinators leave either

815
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 6: to become a head coach or they get fired. There's

816
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 6: not there's only a few that kind of just do

817
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 6: the rollover contracts because they've lost their ambition or didn't

818
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 6: didn't want in terms of being a head coach, or

819
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 6: didn't want to be a head coach anymore it didn't

820
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 6: work out, or don't view themselves like Steve Spagnolo in

821
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 6: Kansas City, or you know, Vic Fangio had to run

822
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 6: as a head coach, but I think now he's kind

823
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 6: of back in the defensive coordinator cycle. And so those

824
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 6: guys tend to move around for a lot of different reasons.

825
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 6: Either they get fired, they get a head coaching job,

826
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: or the head coach they're working for it gets fired,

827
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: and the new head coach wants to do it. So

828
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: you just don't see this sort of combination of reasons

829
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 6: or a combination of circumstances that that lead to this,

830
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: and that's what makes it so unusual. But I don't

831
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 6: get the sense that he wants to leave. I don't

832
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 6: get the sense that and I certainly after what Kevin

833
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 6: O'Connell said yesterday that you reference think that they want

834
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 6: him to leave, and so I think it's just, you know,

835
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Speaker 6: he's done a really good job and he it's a

836
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 6: it's a rare case where because of the lawsuit and

837
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 6: because of some other circumstances that he's you know, hasn't

838
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 6: been hired yet as a head coach, and so he's

839
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: got the the ability and skill level and production to

840
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 6: be able to force this circumstance that most defensive coordinators

841
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: or offensive coordinators just can't achieve for various reasons, and

842
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 6: so he's going to explore it was kind.

843
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: Of my next question, what is his current viability as

844
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: a head coach because of all the things that you

845
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: just referenced.

846
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean He's had another great year as a coordinator.

847
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 6: I don't feel like the fundamental circumstances of his head

848
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 6: coaching candidacy has changed very much, you know, other than

849
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 6: just the passage of time. I mean, the lawsuit is

850
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 6: still out there, it's still active, it's still the NFL

851
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 6: is trying to get it, still trying to get it

852
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 6: into arbitration and out of the public sphere, and Flores

853
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: is still trying to keep it in the public sphere,

854
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 6: you know, which is this is what you know, lawyers

855
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: get paid to do.

856
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 5: And so it's happen.

857
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 6: It's been going on for almost four years now, and

858
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 6: so and then over that time, other circumstances arose to

859
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 6: including the comments from his quarterbacks in Miami, Ryan Fitzpatrick

860
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 6: and Tua And you know, people will say, well, too,

861
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: had a bad year this year, so what he said

862
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 6: doesn't have as much relevance, and I don't know if

863
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 6: that's necessarily true. And then you know, he's still as

864
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 6: a human being, and he was the starting quarterback at

865
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: the time, and what he said about the way he

866
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 6: felt he was being treated is still valid. I mean,

867
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Speaker 6: it's the way he felt and uh, and so well, yeah,

868
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 6: and so I don't think any of the circumstances have changed.

869
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Speaker 6: I think he's still there's still a narrow window for

870
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Speaker 6: the type of team that he would be a legitimate

871
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Speaker 6: candidate for, not one that would put him on their

872
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: interview list, but that would really legitimately want to hire him.

873
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 6: There's some teams in this cycle that are going to

874
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 6: be looking for an offensive code and that's just the

875
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 6: way it is.

876
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 5: And you could you could say that's dumb.

877
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 6: You could say that you need to get a leader

878
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 6: of men and the best overall candidate. But that's what

879
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: some teams are going to do, and it'll work for

880
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 6: some and for some it won't. There's other people who, uh,

881
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 6: you know, we'll we'll just you know, the lawsuit and

882
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 6: all the other things, will just not be interested in

883
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 6: even considering him. And then there'll be some teams that

884
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 6: might consider him. But who is going to be the

885
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 6: advocate that goes to the owner of that team.

886
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 5: And says, I for Brian Flores.

887
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 6: I know there's a lot out there about him, but

888
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 6: you know, I vouch for him, and so he it

889
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 6: would probably need to be somebody that he has a

890
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 6: whether it's a front office person or some trusted advisor

891
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 6: to an owner to talk them into that. And so

892
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that it can't happen or that, and

893
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 6: it certainly doesn't mean that it shouldn't happen. But that

894
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 6: narrower window than a lot of other candidates, to me.

895
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Still exists on the two of stuff refreshed my memory.

896
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: But I thought he responded to that, I thought, pretty well, yeah,

897
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: a year ago, right, it was last year, saying you

898
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: never like to hear that, you never like to hear that.

899
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: That's how Brian fly I think he used Brian Flores

900
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: and the third person, right, And I would also say.

901
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 6: Because the words used were he's a terrible person, right,

902
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't even like terrible coach. It wasn't

903
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 6: even like, you know, he doesn't know what he's doing,

904
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 6: you know, you know, a little more or less personal

905
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 6: and cutting things that you could say about a coach

906
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: that you didn't like. And so again one person observations

907
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 6: of somebody could be much different. You know. I think

908
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 6: there's a lot of people around the league who don't

909
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: think that of Ryan Flores for sure, and and maybe

910
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 6: there's you know one you know, to other people besides

911
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 6: Tua but he but for a quarterback to kind of

912
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 6: you know, be as you know, demonstrative about it as

913
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 6: Tua was, I think, you know, caught some some eyes

914
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 6: and and you know, I know Joe Banner who it

915
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 6: used to be the he was a front office person

916
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 6: with Philadelphia and Cleveland, was involved in a lot of

917
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 6: hiring coaches, and I think he still advises teams on

918
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 6: that and in sort of a consultant role. And he

919
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: put on on X the other day that in terms

920
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: of Flores, he's like, you know, one thing owners will

921
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 6: think about is all the things that came out in

922
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 6: the lawsuit. That it's not just that he's suing the

923
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 6: league and that there's some kind of retribution, but that

924
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 6: a lot of private communications came out that happened in

925
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 6: Miami came out in that lawsuit and also with other

926
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 6: you know, with Bill Belichick and some other people, and

927
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 6: and that was all in service of proving the case.

928
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 6: And that's the way lawsuits work, right. But that's another

929
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 6: thing that people would have to get past, is you know,

930
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 6: he's all right when he was a head coach last time,

931
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 6: the private conversations were made public, and so again there

932
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 6: was a reason why that happened, and a lot of

933
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 6: people think that it's a very admirable reason in terms

934
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 6: of trying to achieve more fair hiring practices around the league.

935
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: But to think that it's not, to think that the

936
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 6: reason that the lawsuit would hold him back is only

937
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: because it's a retribution, I think is also folly.

938
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: Like there's some people.

939
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 6: Who have issues with with just the fact that it

940
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 6: became a lawsuit in the first place.

941
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Sure, and that makes sense I in terms of the

942
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: twoist stuff and the terror like and you know this,

943
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: guys sometimes become a different person when they become the

944
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: head coach for the first time, right, And I also

945
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: think people can change. And I don't know Brian Flores

946
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: from anybody, right, but I see how the current Vikings

947
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: defensive players talk about him seems to pain in a

948
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: much different picture than what his old quarterbacks say.

949
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he and Flores said last year that you

950
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 6: know he's worked to you know, he didn't he didn't

951
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 6: claim that this came out of nowhere, that he's never

952
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 6: said anything or done anything that would be objectionable and said,

953
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 6: you know, it's trying to work on myself every day

954
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 6: and a people grow, Yeah, for sure, and.

955
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: So but it's but it's it's still.

956
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 6: Something that's always going to be out in the ether

957
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 6: and something that at the very least he'll have to defend.

958
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 6: You know, it's a deficit that it's an additional deficit

959
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 6: that he has to overcome that that other candidates might not.

960
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: How indispensable do you believe Koc believes he is to

961
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: the the operation, the culture, the organization.

962
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 6: Well, I think I think he's well aware of the

963
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: impact that he's had and that you know certain you know,

964
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 6: it's I was going to say like that that it's

965
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 6: how much better it has been for the overall team

966
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 6: than it was in twenty twenty two when the defense

967
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 6: coordinator was at Donatel and the defense was terrible, But

968
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 6: they also won thirteen games that year, So it's you

969
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 6: can't really necessarily put the data behind it. But I

970
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 6: think he's well aware that there's been lots of games

971
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: over the past few years where had the defense not

972
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 6: performed the way it did, the Vikings would not have won.

973
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: And so that they've it's definitely become a strong asset.

974
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 6: It isn't playing it doesn't play lights out, you know.

975
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 6: Nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears every single week, but by

976
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 6: and large, in the age of you know, NFL offenses,

977
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 6: more than ever before, he's he's consistently put a defense

978
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: that has a good chance to hold the other team

979
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 6: to enough low enough total of points that the offense

980
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 6: can can do its part as well. And so I

981
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 6: think he's I think he's well aware of how much

982
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 6: he's impacted the organization, and he's I think they both

983
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 6: have kind of learned, you know, they knew each other

984
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 6: a little bit, but they have both learned how each

985
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 6: other works too, and I think that's important as well.

986
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: And so there's no desire.

987
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 6: That I can tell whatsoever for O'Connell to want to

988
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 6: part ways with with Brian Flores.

989
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 5: And so, you know, we'll we'll see how how it

990
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: goes when.

991
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: We come back with Kevin Seaffert. One more question about flow.

992
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Speaker 1: We've also got more Vikings questions to get to as

993
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Speaker 1: well as some NFL things at large. You can hit

994
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Speaker 1: the bratch on Brian Bryant cafean text line six four

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Speaker 1: six eight six. We'll kick off the second hour with

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Speaker 1: Seaffort after