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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in our number three of Cincy three

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Speaker 2: to sixty on this game day, Thursday night football at

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Speaker 2: PAI Corpse Stadium tonight in a division rival coming to town,

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals hosting the dreaded Pittsburgh Steelers. And to

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Speaker 2: get the Steelers perspective on tonight's game, let's talk to

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Speaker 2: the person covering the Steelers for ESPN. Friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: been on many times, our friend Brooke Pryor, joining us now, Brooke,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Do you get amped up on game day? Do reporters

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Speaker 2: get amped up?

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Speaker 4: I get amped up, and then I have to remind

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Speaker 4: myself that, like the players, the long day, especially your

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Speaker 4: primetime game, Like it's bizarre for me to sleep in

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Speaker 4: but I have to remind myself Okay, no, this is

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Speaker 4: this is a marathon and also kind of a sprint.

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Speaker 4: So I've had one coffee today. I am positive I

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Speaker 4: will have many more.

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Speaker 2: You and me both. I have to be on the

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Speaker 2: air until two thirty this morning, so I certainly know

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Speaker 2: the long, long game here. Okay, let's talk about the game.

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Speaker 2: When you think of this game Bengals Steelers, the first

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Speaker 2: matchup or the most important matchup on the field that

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Speaker 2: comes to mind as what.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that is a great question. I'm gonna go, oh man,

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Speaker 4: because there are many important matchups. I kind of think

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Speaker 4: it might be Mike Tomlin versus Joe Flacco. And I

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Speaker 4: this week, the way that Mike Tomlin kind of called

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Speaker 4: extra heat on this matchup. Mike Tomlin knows Joe Flacco

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Speaker 4: in the regular season and is eleven and eleven against him.

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Speaker 4: I believe Joe Flacco ten and eleven when he's been

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Speaker 4: this week that when they were preparing for that Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: They were so clear about that, and he came in

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Speaker 4: So I think it comes down to Mike Tomlin versus

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Speaker 2: I was glad that Tomlin said what he said number one,

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Speaker 2: What have you learned?

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Speaker 2: Where did that come from? Was it strictly I don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think it's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers defense they've been fine. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: Talking to Brooke Pryor covering the Pittsburgh Steelers for ESPN

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Speaker 2: ahead of tonight's game, let's go from one forty year

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Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of similar to the defense, although

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Speaker 4: think that the Aaron Rodgers is coming around and playing better.

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Speaker 3: I think that last week against.

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Speaker 4: The Browns was the best game that he's played this

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Speaker 2: When it comes to running the ball. Pittsburgh twenty ninth

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Speaker 2: Well, we have some not so good news to report.

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Speaker 2: completed eighty one percent of his attempts, that's the sixth

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Speaker 2: highest in the league, and averaged eight point two yards

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Speaker 2: per attempt, second most. Meanwhile, the Bengals defense has allowed

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Speaker 2: a league high seven point seven yards per attempt on

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Speaker 2: quick passes this season, including eight touchdowns, which is the

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Speaker 2: second most. All of this, none of it's going the

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Speaker 2: Bengals direction. None of it. None of it is going

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Speaker 2: the Bengals direction. Take a break, We'll come back. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the Unk Bowl, the Icy

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Speaker 2: Hot Bowl, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers tonight at pay Corp Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Our three brought to you by Penn Station on the

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Speaker 2: home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Hey, It'small Wagon fifteen thirty. Welcome back since E three

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Speaker 2: to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore. In case

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Speaker 2: you missed the news, Trey Hendrickson, according to Jeremy Fowler,

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Speaker 2: not playing tonight against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Meanwhile, Deshaun Elliott,

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Speaker 2: the Steeler safety who had missed practice and travel yesterday

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Speaker 2: due to a family issue, has arrived in Cincinnati and

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Speaker 2: will play tonight against the Bengals. On the back end

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Speaker 2: of that Pittsburgh secondary. The storyline tonight, though, is the

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Speaker 2: fact that you've got two forty something year old quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco going at it. Flacco has

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Speaker 2: thrown a touchdown pass to sixty seven different res that

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Speaker 2: is the fifth most in NFL history. Rogers has thrown

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Speaker 2: a touchdown pass to sixty different receivers, the tenth most

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Speaker 2: in NFL history. Now, despite the fact that these two

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Speaker 2: have been in the league together for a long time,

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Speaker 2: they've only faced each other three times, and in those

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Speaker 2: three games, their total statistics are not very good. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of surreal. So Rogers in three games against Flaco

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Speaker 2: led teams is sixty for one zho one that's just

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Speaker 2: fifty nine percent completion percentage and thrown five touchdowns in

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Speaker 2: three interceptions, while Joe Flacco against Aaron Rodgers led teams

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Speaker 2: is fifty five for ninety nine. That's fifty five percent

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Speaker 2: of his passes, three touchdowns and four interceptions. That's kind

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Speaker 2: of weird, right, two guys that were pretty good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Aaron's a Hall of Famer for as long as

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Speaker 2: they have played. Not playing well when they play each other,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of surreal. Check out the career comparison. Rogers

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00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: has played in two hundred and fifty three games and

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Speaker 2: has sixty three thousand, nine hundred and seventy three passing yards,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and thirteen touchdown passes, and one hundred and

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Speaker 2: nineteen interceptions. Flacco has played in two hundred and one games,

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Speaker 2: with forty six thousand, seven hundred and thirty one passing yards,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty one touchdowns, one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: eight interceptions. All together, they have combined for four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty four NFL games and over one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ten thousand passing yards, seven hundred and seventy four touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: and two hundred and eighty seven interceptions. That's like sixty

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Speaker 2: miles worth of passing yards. That's unbelievable. Uh, And it

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Speaker 2: is kind of cool that those two guys are going

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Speaker 2: at it tonight against each other. On Thursday Night. Football

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Speaker 2: kind of talked earlier about the Steelers' schedule, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not entirely sure, you know, are the Steelers that good, Like, yeah,

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00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: they're good enough to win this game, but when you

491
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Speaker 2: look at their schedule, I think it's fair to be

492
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Speaker 2: a little bit confused, a little bit cautious in terms

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Speaker 2: of jumping all over them. They won Week one in

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Speaker 2: a shootout against the Jets thirty four to thirty two,

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00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: which no defense was played at all, and you could

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Speaker 2: make the argument that the Jets should have won that game.

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Speaker 2: And then in Week two and the best team that

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Speaker 2: they faced, Seattle, came into Pittsburgh and whooped them thirty

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Speaker 2: to one to seventeen. That's their only loss. They then

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Speaker 2: played New England at New England and forced five turnovers

501
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: of Drake May. Some of them were some real brain

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00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: dead operational stuff by Drake May. But they turned the

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Speaker 2: ball over five times, did the Patriots. And still, even

504
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: though they turned the ball over five times, the Patriots

505
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: only lost to the Steelers by seven points, so that's

506
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: a little bit strange. Then they go to Dublin to

507
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Speaker 2: play Minnesota in the International Series game in Ireland, and

508
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin did everything in his power to lose that game.

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Speaker 2: They allowed Minnesota to hang in there and hang in

510
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: there and hang in there with Carson Wentz by the way,

511
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Speaker 2: and they won that game Pittsburgh twenty four to twenty one,

512
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: a very thin margin of error there and then last

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Speaker 2: week against Cleveland in Pittsburgh, they beat him twenty three

514
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Speaker 2: to nine in a game where Pittsburgh I think was

515
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: just a better team and DK Metcalf had another good

516
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Speaker 2: game in that one. So I'd look at that and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, how many really good teams have the

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Speaker 2: Steelers played. I think Seattle's a good team. I think

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00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: New England's a good I don't know that either one

520
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: of those two teams are really good. I also wouldn't

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Speaker 2: say the Bengals are really good. I just I don't

522
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: know anybody that would say that. But I might look

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Speaker 2: at the Steelers four in one record and say, Okay,

524
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: maybe that's a little bit misleading. Maybe that's not entirely

525
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 2: who they are. And you talk about this being a

526
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Speaker 2: gateway game or a pot pivotal game for the Bengals,

527
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: it's also a big game for Pittsburgh because after they

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Speaker 2: play Cincinnati, they're home against green Bay, home against Indianapolis,

529
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Speaker 2: at the Chargers, home against the Bengals, at the Bears,

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Speaker 2: home against the Bills. That's a tough stretch right there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Bengals are in there twice, but

532
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 2: you play Buffalo the Chargers, the Colts, the Packers, all

533
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: those teams expected to be playoff teams. So this is

534
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Speaker 2: a game where they can get a little bit of

535
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: a cushion, a little bit of a breathing room or

536
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of a breathing room, and a chance

537
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Speaker 2: really to set themselves up nicely in the AFC North.

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Speaker 2: So I think they understand the importance of that as well.

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Speaker 2: Talking about Rogers specifically his stats on the season, they're fine.

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Speaker 2: He's thrown for one twenty one yards, He's completing sixty

541
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Speaker 2: eight percent of his passes, has ten touchdowns and three interceptions,

542
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: and that's a Rogers staple. He takes care of the football,

543
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: has got the greatest touchdown interception ratio of any quarterback

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Speaker 2: who's ever played the game. Dk Metcalf has nineteen catches

545
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: for three hundred and fifty yards and four touchdowns to

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Speaker 2: lead them. No other receiver has more than one hundred

547
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: and fifty more than one hundred and forty yards. Their

548
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: next leading receiver is actually their running back Jalen Warren,

549
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Speaker 2: who has three hundred and fifty or one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty three yards, which is kind of crazy to think about.

551
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Nick Herbig is their leader in sacks. He's got four

552
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: and a half. The TJ. Watt has three and a half.

553
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon, the rookie d tackle a lot of Bengals

554
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: fans won and out of Oregon, he has two. And

555
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: how about Jalen Ramsey, the cornerback we talked about earlier.

556
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: He had two sacks last week. So Pittsburgh got a

557
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: little exotic. With former Bengals defensive coordinator Terrell Austin calling

558
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: their defense, Jalen Ramsey dialed up a sack or two.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We

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00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: don't have Mo today because Mo and Lance and Rocky

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00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: have pregame sports talk from Holy Grail that'll be on

562
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: this station and on seven hundred WLW. So they are

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00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: getting ready for that down at the Holy Grail. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll take a phone call and wrap

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Speaker 2: things up. This is Sincy three to sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: See three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Cincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: I was looking for Mo, Well, Moe's not here. He's

571
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: getting set for the broadcast with Lance and Rocky for

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Speaker 2: pregame sports talk at the Holy Grail, So that'll be

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Speaker 2: coming up next from three until six thirty. Then we'll

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Speaker 2: turn things over to Wayne back Miller and the Bengals

575
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: for Bengals Steelers, and then I will be right back

576
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: here from twelve thirty am to two thirty am Friday

577
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Speaker 2: morning with full postgame coverage on the Tri State Chevy

578
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Dealers Post Game Sports Talk Show. And I invite you

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Speaker 2: to join me into the wee hours, especially if you're

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00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: on your way back home from the game. We've got

581
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Speaker 2: time for a phone call before we wrap things up.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to our guy Mike in La. What up, Mike?

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Speaker 3: My brother? Not a hole of good thank you in

584
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Speaker 3: the neighborhood. Yeah, you get a long one going? What

585
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: do you do? Go home and take a nap? Or

586
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: I don't take naps? Well do you?

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00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't normally?

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00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

589
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: I always try to sleep in as late as I

590
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Speaker 2: can today, so I did.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

592
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: I need to get some laundry done, but I am

593
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: going to try to sneak in a nap.

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00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah probably. Yeah. Well the older you get, the more

595
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: critical naps are. But I still can't seem to do it.

596
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: I'm just too wired, too tight. Yeah, psychological fantom. I'd

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Speaker 3: like to quickly say hi to my old friend Jeff

598
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: from Virginia and my new friend Joe from Boston, and

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Speaker 3: I got a quick one for you.

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Speaker 2: If Mike Mike, his name is, his name is John,

601
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Speaker 2: John from Boston.

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00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: I meant John, I said, Joe. Yeah, typical, Sorry John.

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00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: I was on my way once. It's a quickie. I

604
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 3: was on my way to Queen's one time years ago,

605
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Speaker 3: and I ended up going through an area called the

606
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: combat Zone in Boston and got robbed for three hundred

607
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Speaker 3: and twenty three dollars.

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00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So don't Joe or John tell us about the combat

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Speaker 3: zone next time if it's still there. I know we're

611
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: talking football today appropriately, but uh, you know, we got

612
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: a big game tonight with the Dodgers in the book,

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Speaker 3: I do not know how in the hell Milwaukee won

614
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: ninety seven games with that pitching safe. I don't understand it.

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00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did it without their their best group

616
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: really for the most part. And they've been kind of

617
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: patchworking it up like the Dodgers for a while.

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what happened with the Dodgers was glass Now

619
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Speaker 3: was out good portion of the year. Snell was out

620
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: a good portion of the year, Yamamoto was. So these

621
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: guys are kind of fresh, oddly enough. So tonight we've

622
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Speaker 3: got Glass now where three point one nine going against

623
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Alan Ashby. He's a lefty. But anyway, I think again,

624
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Speaker 3: I don't know how the Brewers won that many games.

625
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: I just don't get it.

626
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. And it feels like

627
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: maybe the Dodgers are hitting their stride a little bit

628
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: You just wonder if some of these teams, and I'm

630
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: sure it happens in baseball, like in pulling football too,

631
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Speaker 3: but especially in baseball with that long season, guys start

632
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: probably in all this and late July, they start getting

633
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: a little burnout, and you wonder about their affort level

634
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: and stuff like that because they're, you know, they're tired

635
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: of doing it every day.

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00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Probably right, Yeah, I'm sure they are. I mean, this

637
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: is the the grind man like, and I think there's

638
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: like a certain level of juice and like excitement that

639
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: comes with being in the playoffs that makes it easy

640
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: with the adrenaline, But at the same time, your body

641
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: is just exhausted, and.

642
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers scares me tonight. Those numbers you gave on

643
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers for his age are remarkable, Austin, They're remarkable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's just a monster. I'm afraid of. I'm

645
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: afraid of every quarterback that plays the Bengals. I've learned

646
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: that lesson too many times. It doesn't really matter who

647
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: it is they can torture.

648
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: Do they have any good why I haven't kept up

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Speaker 3: with the steward they have any good white outs at all? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They have dk Metcalf. They traded for him, uh from

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Speaker 2: this offseason from Seattle. Yeah, having a good sea But.

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Speaker 3: That's the only one right of any notoriety.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they traded George Pickens to the Cowboys and

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Speaker 2: Calvin Austin has hurt tonight. So yeah, that's the main one.

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Speaker 3: So what's what's the key? I know you've probably said

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Speaker 3: it during the show and I was having a procedure

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Speaker 3: and I missed it. What's your synopsis of how the

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Speaker 3: Bengals can win the game tonight? Now I'll hang up.

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it has to be a

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Speaker 2: track meet. I don't trust the defense and especially don't

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Speaker 2: trust the defense without Trey Hendrickson. So as far as

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, it's can you keep up with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: and that that ultimately is going to be the thing

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Speaker 2: with me. And obviously I keep harping on them being

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Speaker 2: able to run the ball. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 2: going to change Pittsburgh's league average right in the middle

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Speaker 2: when it comes to defending the run. But for me,

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Speaker 2: it's can you keep up with Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 3: Have they lost they have the Bengals lost faith in

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Speaker 3: Chase Brown? Or is it strictly because the offense wine

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Speaker 3: just isn't good enough.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's that the offensive line

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Speaker 2: isn't good enough. To be honest, Okay, thank you all.

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Speaker 3: Austin, try to enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it. I will good to

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Speaker 2: hear your voice. That's our guy, Mike in La. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm on twelve thirty to two thirty early Friday morning

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Speaker 2: after the game for the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame

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Speaker 2: sports talk show. Coming up on tomorrow's show. As far

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Speaker 2: as I know, business as usual. Talk to Charlie Goldsmith

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Speaker 2: at one pm. We'll check in a little FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: with Tommy g as well, and of course full reaction

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Speaker 2: to what happens tonight at pay Course Stadium between the

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Speaker 2: Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll also look ahead a

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Speaker 2: little bit to the college football slate. We haven't gotten

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Speaker 2: too much into the Bearcats this week, but I've been

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Speaker 2: saving it for Friday. Scott Centerfield met earlier this week

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Speaker 2: we got the availability reports for their game against Oklahoma States.

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Speaker 2: Bearcats are heavy favorites in that game. I think the

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Speaker 2: expectation is for UC to go out still Water and

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Speaker 2: roll up against Oklahoma State. So that's my expectation at least.

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Speaker 2: And this weekend there's a little bit of Bearcat basketball

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Speaker 2: as well, Wes Miller and the Cats looking to go

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Speaker 2: up to Michigan to play the Wolverines. I know Xavier

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Speaker 2: has a scrimmage this weekend as well. And yeah, so

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Speaker 2: this is getting to that time of the year where

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Speaker 2: things start happening and it kind of all happens at

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Speaker 2: once because of coming back from the international break shortly

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Speaker 2: for soccer. And yeah, one last thing I want to

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Speaker 2: leave you with before I go. I saw this from

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Speaker 2: Nick Mangold, the former New York Jets Center and Ohio

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Speaker 2: State legend. He posted in on his Twitter page that

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and six he was diagnosed with a

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Speaker 2: genetic defect that has led to chronic kidney disease and

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Speaker 2: after a rough summer, he was undergoing dialysis and looking

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Speaker 2: for a kidney transplant. He thought he had more time,

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Speaker 2: but it has deteriorated. And if you go to his

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Speaker 2: Twitter page at Nick Mangold n Iick m A N Gold,

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Speaker 2: he posts it out there that he's looking for someone

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Speaker 2: with Type O blood who might be willing to be

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Speaker 2: a kidney donor. He posts the link how you can

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Speaker 2: check if you're interested, And yeah, I mean, Nick Mangold

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Speaker 2: is an absolute legend. He's a Jets Ring of Honor member,

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Speaker 2: he's an All American at Ohio State first Team. All

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Speaker 2: good guy and if you know anyone that could help

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Speaker 2: or if you're interested in helping. I retweeted it as

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Speaker 2: well at audio More. Definitely a tough, tough story there

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Speaker 2: for Nick Mangold and wish him all the best. All Right,

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