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Speaker 3: Welcome into Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network in
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW. Lance Pacalister along with Dave Lapham and
Speaker 3: Dave not a bad way to hit the mini by
Speaker 3: when you go in with the victory. I woke up
Speaker 3: Sunday morning and I had that thought, Wow, I kind
Speaker 3: of like waking up on Sundays. Withere, the Bengals have
Speaker 3: already won. There's nothing to worry about. And it was
Speaker 3: a game that had a little bit of this and
Speaker 3: a little bit of that and a one they desperately needed.
Speaker 3: Nice to get in the win column for the first
Speaker 3: time after a four game losing streak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt, Lance, I mean, a four game
Speaker 4: losing streak wears on you, you know, don't I don't
Speaker 4: care who you are, what level of football you're playing,
Speaker 4: what sport you're playing. You know, I mean baseball big
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two. You know, four games is nothing.
Speaker 4: It's one series, maybe not even that sometimes, but in football,
Speaker 4: I mean it's big. You know, you only get in
Speaker 4: certain number of games, seventeen games. Now, they've got it
Speaker 4: at in the regular season to go out and perform
Speaker 4: and show what you got as a football team and
Speaker 4: as an individual player, and you don't want to waste
Speaker 4: any of them. And they felt like they had wasted
Speaker 4: a month or so of their season. But then in
Speaker 4: comes Joe Flacco and he comes, you know, he answers
Speaker 4: the bell they put out the emergency call, you know,
Speaker 4: and Joe Flacco picked up the phone and the other
Speaker 4: end and said, yeah, I'm all in, I'm ready.
Speaker 5: To do this.
Speaker 4: And you know, he knew all about the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4: He played against him many times. He had a good
Speaker 4: idea what Zach Taylor was about, and what kind of
Speaker 4: offense the Bengals had, and what kind of offensive weapons.
Speaker 4: More importantly, the Bengals had, particularly ones to throw to,
Speaker 4: and he has a mirriad of those. There's no doubt
Speaker 4: I mean Jamar Chase is the best in football. Another
Speaker 4: sixteen catchers hundred and sixty one yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Te Higgins lit it up. Chase Brown rush for over
Speaker 4: one hundred yards. Eleven carries hundred and eight What kidding.
Speaker 4: This isn't little league football, man, This isn't Pop Warner.
Speaker 4: This is the NFL. Eleven carries one hundred and eight yards.
Speaker 4: So now you know you have guys that in the
Speaker 4: offensive line. Take about Dylan Fairchild, young guard take a
Speaker 4: bow man, ran the ball well, ran behind him.
Speaker 6: Some.
Speaker 4: They ran in the interior between the guards and Senator
Speaker 4: Ted Carriss multiple times. Riisener did a good job over
Speaker 4: there at right guard. And they performed well. They really
Speaker 4: did offensively. I think every single position group, every guy
Speaker 4: in every single position group can take a bow. I
Speaker 4: thought their performance was much better than normal, much better
Speaker 4: than average, I should say. Defensively, it was up and down.
Speaker 4: You know, I guess inconsistent might be a fear way
Speaker 4: to put it. They showed up, you know, they were
Speaker 4: ready to play. It wasn't like that when they had issues.
Speaker 4: It wasn't due to lack of effort or lack of
Speaker 4: emotion or you know, I don't think it was preparational,
Speaker 4: though sometimes it looked like it out there. You know,
Speaker 4: sometimes guys were i mean really open, big time open.
Speaker 4: That should never happen at this level in the National
Speaker 4: Football League, and Al Golden has to concern himself with that,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure he didn't like it one bit.
Speaker 3: David feels like this is almost the beginning of like
Speaker 3: a third season within a season. You went through the
Speaker 3: first phase with Joe and his injury and all the
Speaker 3: emotions that came with it, and then Jake Browning in
Speaker 3: the thought that okay, Jake can carry him for a while,
Speaker 3: then his struggles, then the transition out to a third season,
Speaker 3: which feels like there's a new juice and energy of
Speaker 3: looking around going all right, for all we've been through,
Speaker 3: if you look at the division, if you look at
Speaker 3: the AFC, we're still in this thing, and we got
Speaker 3: a quarterback we can ride right now for a while.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Joe Flacco Lance has been you know,
Speaker 4: a huge shot of confidence in everybody's arm. You know, players,
Speaker 4: head coach, coordinators, position coaches, everybody. Now they feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we got a guy that's done this before we got
Speaker 4: a guy that understands what it takes to do this.
Speaker 4: And by doing this, I mean, you know, have a
Speaker 4: winning record well above five hundred. Maybe it gets you
Speaker 4: in as a wild card, maybe you win the division.
Speaker 4: But the big, you know, the big prize, the big
Speaker 4: banana course, is the super Bowl. If you can win
Speaker 4: a playoff game and go to the division, win a
Speaker 4: division playoff game, go to the conference championship game, and
Speaker 4: then go to the super Bowl, that would be huge.
Speaker 4: I mean, this team has been there three times, hasn't
Speaker 4: won it yet. It would be ironic. I think if
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco comes to Cincinnati and uh, in less than
Speaker 4: a week's time, you know, puts up a big victory.
Speaker 4: I mean, this thing was huge. I mean you can't
Speaker 4: overstate how big this victory was. Puts a big victory
Speaker 4: victory against arch rival Pittsburgh Steelers. AFC North Division title
Speaker 4: basically in the works on the way.
Speaker 5: This game.
Speaker 4: They'll look back on this game and it'll be like
Speaker 4: a watershed game, you know. I think it'll be like
Speaker 4: if in fact, they have the season they're hoping to
Speaker 4: have and they finish well above five hundred and do
Speaker 4: the things I already talked about this game will be Yep,
Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh game. That was the one. I mean, shoot,
Speaker 4: we signed Joe Flacco in less than a week's time.
Speaker 4: He's out there, you know, running the whole offense and
Speaker 4: understanding the complexities of that offense. And I think what
Speaker 4: they did do I think the coaches actually take about
Speaker 4: I think they made a fairly complex offense simple. You know,
Speaker 4: they there's simple components in it, and I think they
Speaker 4: emphasize those big.
Speaker 3: Time stadium wise, places packed, white out, looked great on TV,
Speaker 3: looked great in person that looked around and thought, not
Speaker 3: many Steelers here.
Speaker 2: I kind of like that. It was a Bengal crowd.
Speaker 3: It was loud and it it enjoyed that on Monday
Speaker 3: or on Thursday night, it sure did.
Speaker 4: I mean I thought that crowd was a huge factor
Speaker 4: in the game. I mean they showed up loud and proud.
Speaker 4: I mean they were ready to celebrate, and you know
Speaker 4: they I think they were curious as to this quarterback
Speaker 4: Joe Flackhamam. And we know we know about him. We
Speaker 4: played against him and we've had mixed success. He's had
Speaker 4: more success than we have. Uh, let's see what he
Speaker 4: can do for us against the UH, the hated but
Speaker 4: respected Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 7: UH.
Speaker 4: And he went out there and UH and did his thing.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you he threw the ball exceedingly well I
Speaker 4: thought he did. The ball came out of his hand
Speaker 4: very quickly. He made unbelievably quick reads. He was sure
Speaker 4: of his reads, very confident in what he was looking at,
Speaker 4: and confident in himself, and got the ball out of
Speaker 4: his hand quickly with velocity RPMs on that bad boy,
Speaker 4: very active down the field twenty five thirty yards, you know,
Speaker 4: hitting the receiver's left shoulder when he had to, right
Speaker 4: hip when he had to, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4: He was putting it in very very small spots.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 4: He was pinpointing the ball down the football field with
Speaker 4: the accuracy that he has. He's a very talented thrower
Speaker 4: passer of the football. There is no question about that.
Speaker 3: A couple of forty something quarterbacks doing their thing on
Speaker 3: a national stage, and even down to the final play
Speaker 3: when Rogers rolls out. Everything to me went like slow motion,
Speaker 3: like I've seen Rogers do this before, and this Hail
Speaker 3: Murray has worked before. And as the ball is going
Speaker 3: through the air. Everything just kind of slow down in
Speaker 3: your watch. Somebody bat that baby down and they did
Speaker 3: and they they hang on and win again.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was like super slow mo. You know that.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, is he going to do
Speaker 4: it again? Because he's done it. He's done it before,
Speaker 4: that's for sure. Like you've said, I mean, he's he's
Speaker 4: unkenny how he can get that that done? But he
Speaker 4: played He played a really solid game too. I mean,
Speaker 4: like you said, two guys forty years old, forty years
Speaker 4: old or more, putting up the numbers that they did,
Speaker 4: the way they did it, how they played the game,
Speaker 4: how they led, how they led their teammates. And you know,
Speaker 4: both of them take a bow, but Joe flaccall can
Speaker 4: take a bigger bow.
Speaker 3: You you touched on it, and let's touch on in
Speaker 3: the next segment. Some credit for Zach and Dan Pitcher
Speaker 3: and Justin Roscotti getting Joe Flacco up to speed, getting
Speaker 3: him ready, figuring out what he likes, and also Duke
Speaker 3: Tobin who winds up flipping a fifth round pick for
Speaker 3: a sixth round pick and brings in Joe Flacco. And look,
Speaker 3: there's no secret, Mike Tomlin made his thoughts very clear
Speaker 3: last week, like what are the Browns doing?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 3: Why are the Cleveland Browns giving the Beggals Joe Flacco?
Speaker 3: And when we saw why, he was a little bit
Speaker 3: worried about that. Let's talk about some credit due as
Speaker 3: we continue. He's Dave Lappaman, Glance Cas Bengals on and
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Speaker 3: hundred WLW Lions but Cantleister Dave Blapham, working our way
Speaker 3: through three big hours of all things Bengals conversation. We'll
Speaker 3: get into the Jets this weekend's opponent a little bit
Speaker 3: later on in the show as well. Dave, you touched
Speaker 3: on credit in the first segment, and let's expand that.
Speaker 3: Let's first go big picture Duke Tobin. And there's a
Speaker 3: great piece of Monday Morning Quarterback by Albert Breer of
Speaker 3: how the Bengals after the Detroit loss had started looking
Speaker 3: at quarterbacks and initially had a list of ten, and
Speaker 3: they narrowed it down and they were looking for somebody
Speaker 3: who was going to be a quick study, who could
Speaker 3: work in their offense. Who knew the division, and Duke
Speaker 3: Tobin pulls the trigger and Trey It flips a fifth
Speaker 3: round pick for a sixth round pick to get Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: It looks like a genius move right now, but Flacco,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that they're among anybody else.
Speaker 3: They would have considered anybody who could have as smoothly
Speaker 3: slid in on a short week when he arrived and
Speaker 3: then done the quick turnaround to the DIVISI rival and
Speaker 3: the Steelers and get it downe like Joe Flacco got
Speaker 3: it done.
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I mean, I think I think
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. Obviously he's been around, he's he's got a
Speaker 4: bunch of years uh service in the National Football League,
Speaker 4: and he's played very very good football. I mean the guy,
Speaker 4: uh you know, m v P type football and in
Speaker 4: some instances, so he's a he's a guy that that
Speaker 4: understands the game of football and he can assimilate offenses quickly.
Speaker 4: And that's what they were looking for. Duke Tobin and
Speaker 4: his scouting department, they you know, put a laundry list
Speaker 4: of requirements together and obviously that was first and foremost.
Speaker 4: We need somebody to get up to speed. Quickly because
Speaker 4: we want somebody now, uh, Jake Browning, we gave the
Speaker 4: opportunity to and then he he kind of you know,
Speaker 4: did not perform to the level of expectation and unfortunately,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of just spit the bit, gave it up,
Speaker 4: gave up the the opportunity that he was afforded, and
Speaker 4: somebody to step in right away. And for him to
Speaker 4: be able to do it as quickly as he did
Speaker 4: is remarkable. It really is. It's truly remarkable. I think
Speaker 4: credit should go to Zach, should go to Dan Pitcher,
Speaker 4: should go to you know, all the offensive coaches teammates
Speaker 4: for you know, making life easier for him.
Speaker 5: He does.
Speaker 4: He let's face it, he's got the the the plus
Speaker 4: coming to Cincinnati of throwing the football to like a
Speaker 4: dynamic trio of receivers, not just a receiver, but multiples,
Speaker 4: you know. And I think also, uh give a lot
Speaker 4: of credit to his wife for the help that she
Speaker 4: gave him.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I mean, here he is driving down from Cleveland. They
Speaker 4: get him a car and a driver and to his
Speaker 4: wife or a backseat whatever seat they're in, and they're
Speaker 4: just she's grilling, she's grilling about the Cincinnati Bengals offense.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a formation, you give me the play.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a play, Give me the formation, give
Speaker 4: me any nuances with the play, you know, if there's
Speaker 4: any motion or change the strength or whatever the case
Speaker 4: may be. For him to do what he did in
Speaker 4: such a short period of time, it took him a
Speaker 4: little while, you know, to to you know, crank it up,
Speaker 4: get the juices flow and get the blood flowing a
Speaker 4: little bit. But when he did, man, he really was magnificent.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that even he said on Thursday night,
Speaker 3: there's still some plays that he didn't quite get all
Speaker 3: of from Zach and the headset or was talking about
Speaker 3: Zach's Zach was joking about his own Oklahoma accent and
Speaker 3: how it wasn't quite getting to him. And he went
Speaker 3: to the line and he said, they made it work,
Speaker 3: and they laughed as they went to the sidelines.
Speaker 2: The number of times.
Speaker 3: Maybe the full play wasn't there, the formation was quite right,
Speaker 3: but a veteran he is, they still were able to
Speaker 3: make it work. There was no panic, there was no
Speaker 3: you know, time out, I need to figure this out.
Speaker 3: They just figured it out on the fly, and that's
Speaker 3: what a veteran does right.
Speaker 4: And the plays that ended in the letter F we're
Speaker 4: the ones that were a problem. Like Flaco couldn't he
Speaker 4: couldn't hear it. He couldn't understand what what is the word?
Speaker 4: So is this a code game or something?
Speaker 5: What are we doing here? This is I don't have
Speaker 5: time for this.
Speaker 4: I need I need to break the huddle and get
Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmer so I can have some
Speaker 4: time with the line of scrimmage and need to check
Speaker 4: the play and check.
Speaker 5: From one to another.
Speaker 4: So when you when you factor all that in, it
Speaker 4: really is it's a it's a it's a great story.
Speaker 4: It's probably one of the Alvin Preer would probably agree
Speaker 4: it's one of the better stories in the National Football
Speaker 4: League right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to think of the quick turnaround and the
Speaker 3: results from it, and just you know, you gotta you
Speaker 3: gotta trust your coach, and your coaches have to know
Speaker 3: what it's that classic, figure out what he likes, what
Speaker 3: he doesn't like, throw out some of the stuff, let's
Speaker 3: maybe massage some of the stuff. And it looks like
Speaker 3: he's comfortable. He's you know, when you operate at the
Speaker 3: level he did on Thursday, night on eight days rest
Speaker 3: or eight days in the system, you're doing.
Speaker 4: Something absolutely and uh, you know, the coaches they have
Speaker 4: to have a respect for his football IQ, his football mind,
Speaker 4: his football intelligence, and even if he's only got like
Speaker 4: parts of it and he's missing like a little component,
Speaker 4: figure it out and get it, get it put together.
Speaker 4: You played a lot of football. We trust you, you know,
Speaker 4: and get it. Get that part of it done. But
Speaker 4: I think the other thing, the big thing that he
Speaker 4: gives his teammates is hope, you know. And now all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, everybody's you know, before the game watching
Speaker 4: him warm up, They're like.
Speaker 5: WHOA, looks pretty good man.
Speaker 4: This might this might work out, This might be this
Speaker 4: might be a lot of fun. And then what he
Speaker 4: did during the course of the game and the adjustments
Speaker 4: he had to make, and the adversity he had to
Speaker 4: overcome and just kept overcoming it again and again and again. Uh,
Speaker 4: and putting points up on the board. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: you know, to put thirty on the board is that's
Speaker 4: that's extraordinary. So now you come in the locker room,
Speaker 4: you're filing off the field and.
Speaker 5: Was saying, man flackah song becomes a real deal. Man.
Speaker 4: He's legit. Joe Flacco is the man. And now he
Speaker 4: has a presence in that locker room. When you when
Speaker 4: you walked into that locker room after the game, you
Speaker 4: could feel that you could feel him taking over a
Speaker 4: very prominent position and role in that football team, not
Speaker 4: only as a player, but as a leader. And you know,
Speaker 4: he's been a captain. He has got leadership. He's according
Speaker 4: to players and coach that I've talked to, he's just
Speaker 4: a good dude.
Speaker 5: I mean, he.
Speaker 4: Doesn't have a you know, like a malicious bone in
Speaker 4: his body kind of thing. You know, he wants everybody
Speaker 4: to do well. He wants everybody to succeed. He wants to,
Speaker 4: you know, sing around the campfire little Kumbaya Dave.
Speaker 3: He also seems good at doing something as simple as
Speaker 3: bailing on a play when it's not there. He'll throw
Speaker 3: it into the ground and throw it out of bounds.
Speaker 3: He sees it, recognizes it quickly enough to say it's
Speaker 3: not there initially. I'm not going to extend this play
Speaker 3: and create the potential for a turnover. I'm going to
Speaker 3: live to play another down. Let's go next down, bingo.
Speaker 3: I agree with one hundred percent LANs. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know football, You've watched a lot of it. He does
Speaker 3: not put the ball in jeopardy. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: if this is close, throwing it away or I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put it in a spot that's going to be difficult
Speaker 3: for my receiver to make a play on it.
Speaker 4: But he's the only one that can make a difficult
Speaker 4: play on it, you know. And uh and and and
Speaker 4: I think the other thing is, like you said, man
Speaker 4: does he make quick decisions. I mean, he scans that
Speaker 4: field and knows what he's looking at. And you know
Speaker 4: they start in cover two and then rotate to cover one,
Speaker 4: or you know they'll play cover three or man across
Speaker 4: the board, whatever the case may be. He is on
Speaker 4: it like now, is no no wasted time whatsoever. And
Speaker 4: and that's a that's a big, big plus. And I
Speaker 4: think that part of his game. I think that And
Speaker 4: then watching him when his teammates watched him throw the football,
Speaker 4: their confidence and Joe Flaco just went through the roof.
Speaker 3: All right, hang tight, we're up and running. We've got
Speaker 3: plenty of ground to cover. We talked about Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: throwing the ball. Let's talk about that running game that
Speaker 3: newly covered running game and the gaping holes in which
Speaker 3: Chase Brown and company ran through that. As we continue,
Speaker 3: he's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but Calister, thanks for being
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Speaker 3: on this Monday night, a Bengals Line on the Bengals
Speaker 3: Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Looking back at that
Speaker 3: big Thursday night went over the Pittsburgh Steelers thirty three
Speaker 3: thirty one. Well, eventually look ahead of the windless Jets
Speaker 3: this weekend. We'll get to that coming up at hour
Speaker 3: number three. But let's get to in this hour the
Speaker 3: Bengals running game. Twenty three totes of the football for
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty two yards. That's an average of
Speaker 3: six point two yards of carry. Chase Brown eleven carries
Speaker 3: one and eight yards, a nine point eight yards per
Speaker 3: carry average. And there were moments he was galloping through
Speaker 3: holes day it was fun to see. On Thursday night,
Speaker 3: he was, I mean, when you average almost the first
Speaker 3: down every time you run the football, and that's what
Speaker 3: uh Chase Brown did, That's that's ridiculous. I mean that's
Speaker 3: almost stupid at any level. But against the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 3: and Mike Tomlin, who are known for having a vaunted
Speaker 3: run defense, I mean, they're not gonna They're gonna give
Speaker 3: up uh rush yards grudgingly. It's not gonna be a
Speaker 3: cake walk when you go out there against the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: Steelers and the Bengals. Just man, they hit them right.
Speaker 3: They they changed up.
Speaker 4: Uh, they had a lot of different blocking schematics in
Speaker 4: that run game. You know, they had to just come
Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage and knock people off the football,
Speaker 4: which is which is great. And and once they started
Speaker 4: doing that and anchoring the Pittsburgh Steelers, then they had
Speaker 4: you know, down block, down, block, pull a gap scheme.
Speaker 4: That's what the gap scheme is. Basically, Uh, block down
Speaker 4: and and and pull around and find finding somebody would
Speaker 4: stick a hat on as that puller. They did a
Speaker 4: good job of that. They ran some naked mean, Joe
Speaker 4: Flacco had a big carry that was a very important
Speaker 4: play in the football game, and he was he was
Speaker 4: almost laughing as hard he could barely describe the player
Speaker 4: in the locker room after the game.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he may have summed it up
Speaker 3: by saying he knew the formation was alright.
Speaker 2: He said, screw it, I'll take it. Yeah, it goes
Speaker 2: for twelve yards.
Speaker 4: I know that they know how they're supposed to block it,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to trust the fact they're going to
Speaker 4: block it.
Speaker 5: Pretty well. Here I go. I mean, that's that's when
Speaker 5: you know it's going right.
Speaker 4: Though. You know, sometimes some games it's like, man, I mean,
Speaker 4: we can't screw up. Even if we try to screw
Speaker 4: it up. You know, it's like it's impossible.
Speaker 3: Today and so many it was so nice to see
Speaker 3: Chase Brown be able to get up ahead of steam
Speaker 3: so many carries this year he'd been hit now at
Speaker 3: the lot of scrimmage, he'd been hitting the backfield on
Speaker 3: the handoff and and it kind of reminds you of
Speaker 3: what they saw on him, especially last year when he
Speaker 3: went through like a six or seven game stretch with
Speaker 3: over one hundred total yards in offense. He was catching it,
Speaker 3: he was running it, but he was able to have
Speaker 3: a little bit of space to do that.
Speaker 2: And that space was there Thursday.
Speaker 5: Nay, it was, it was.
Speaker 4: It was you know, sometimes it was due to outstanding blocking.
Speaker 4: I think sometimes it was maybe a little bit of
Speaker 4: an assignment era a misalignment by the Pittsburgh Steelers or
Speaker 4: hitting a wrong gap two guys in one gap and
Speaker 4: then one gap just totally exposed and wide open. But
Speaker 4: credit the Bengals, they found it, you know. And the
Speaker 4: Chase Brown, like you said last, when he gets up
Speaker 4: ahead of steam, the dude is an automatic. Yards after contact,
Speaker 4: he's going to pick up something. It might only be
Speaker 4: a yard or two, but that's a tough yard or
Speaker 4: two that you don't have to worry about.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: And offensive linemen love running backs to do that, to
Speaker 4: lower their pad level and just run people over and
Speaker 4: get yards after catch. I mean block for Pete Johnson,
Speaker 4: he was bigger than us for crying out loud, but
Speaker 4: that guy would flatten people and run him over and
Speaker 4: get yards after contact. And Chase Brown, the thing that
Speaker 4: he has, he has the ability to power in the
Speaker 4: in the power running attack. He has the power to
Speaker 4: do that. But then he'll make you miss and he'll
Speaker 4: run away from you. So I mean this guy, you
Speaker 4: get him in space defenders defensive backs in particular, like,
Speaker 4: I better come up and get myself ready here. This
Speaker 4: guy's the lord. I get a brace for it, and
Speaker 4: then he'll make him look stilly, He'll make him miss.
Speaker 4: So Chase Brown is a very talented guy. Plus the
Speaker 4: fact that you know he'll I love there's a form alignment.
Speaker 4: Love to watch this dude and blitz pick up. He
Speaker 4: is stoning people now, he's sticking his face right in
Speaker 4: there and stopping linebackers in their tracks when they're coming downhill,
Speaker 4: trying to blitz that. That's significant. Then he gets out
Speaker 4: of the backfield. You know, they have a good screen
Speaker 4: game with him, screen passes on the passing attack and
Speaker 4: Flacco utilize that. And then just having him as a
Speaker 4: as an outlet a check down in the passing game
Speaker 4: when they took away things down the football field, let
Speaker 4: me get it Chase Brown and and generate some yards.
Speaker 2: They went into the.
Speaker 3: Game averaging I think fifty six yards per game rushing
Speaker 3: just fifty six a game. They were the only team
Speaker 3: in the NFL that didn't have a run of at
Speaker 3: least fifteen yards until Thursday night.
Speaker 2: What does it mean?
Speaker 3: And nobody expects them to go for one forty two
Speaker 3: every game or average six per care every game. But
Speaker 3: if they've unlock something, if they can rush for four
Speaker 3: yards a little tick over four yards per carrier. What
Speaker 3: does it mean for that offense? And what does it
Speaker 3: mean for how defenses are going to have to respect
Speaker 3: that element of the game that's now been reintroduced to
Speaker 3: their offense.
Speaker 4: I think that the successful teams in the NFL, I mean,
Speaker 4: you look at the ones that always seem to be there,
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles, you know, being one a real good example
Speaker 4: of it. They first and foremost want to run the
Speaker 4: football every single week. They want to establish their ground game.
Speaker 4: They wanted to say, we're going to win the line
Speaker 4: of scrimmage. We're going to basically show our physical dominance
Speaker 4: by knocking you around and winning the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 4: and then okay, try to rush the pass on us.
Speaker 4: We're going to be a stone wall. We're gonna be
Speaker 4: a fortress that you can't penetrate whatsoever. So that that's
Speaker 4: kind of like the formula when the Steelers were great,
Speaker 4: that's what they did.
Speaker 5: I mean, they ran the heck out of the football.
Speaker 4: Frank O'harris, Rocky Blyerlas, you have the bus, I mean,
Speaker 4: and then and then just you know, built the fortress
Speaker 4: and said, you know what, you're not gonna touch Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 4: I mean, Ben's gonna be able to stand back there
Speaker 4: and Survey. I mean I used to go nuts thinking, gosh,
Speaker 4: somebody smack him, for God's sake. Don't let them sit there,
Speaker 4: and you know, survey one side to the other side, deep,
Speaker 4: shallow deep again. It's like, God, man, he's got a
Speaker 4: day and a half too much time to throw the
Speaker 4: football at all.
Speaker 5: Starts with that sound running game.
Speaker 3: What does it mean to and I there was a
Speaker 3: clip on the sidelines and I think ted Carris was
Speaker 3: miked up, and late in the game, when the final
Speaker 3: play had had fallen in completely it's over. Teddy stands
Speaker 3: up and you hear him let out this just scream
Speaker 3: of joy and delight. And and I was thinking what
Speaker 3: it must have meant for that offensive line to feel
Speaker 3: like they had kind of imposed their will to rush
Speaker 3: for one hundred and forty two on the ground. What
Speaker 3: does that mean as you're going back to the huddle
Speaker 3: and things, you're clicking and and you're reeling off six
Speaker 3: yards per carry like they were.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I can't explain the feeling. I mean, it
Speaker 4: gives you such a such an unbelievable feeling of accomplishment,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's an accomplishment by the group. And
Speaker 4: with offensive line, I've talked about this many times as
Speaker 4: a form alignment. It's like it's a fraternity. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a it's it's a very very close knit. I
Speaker 4: think it's the most close knit position group on the
Speaker 4: football team because you're codependent everybody the success.
Speaker 5: Of your even your play.
Speaker 4: A lot of times there are snaps where you have
Speaker 4: to have proper help or you're going to look bad.
Speaker 4: And uh, and it can happen. It does happen, there's
Speaker 4: no question about it. But you know, uh, when when
Speaker 4: the offensive line is performing well and everything's in sync, uh,
Speaker 4: it's just it's it's a thing of beauty to watch.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like there are five spokes in the
Speaker 4: wheel and every single spoke is doing exactly and holding
Speaker 4: up strong and doing exactly you know what it's supposed
Speaker 4: to do, and there's no broken spokes and there's no
Speaker 4: you know, problem area in the offensive line. It's like, man,
Speaker 4: we can't we can't go over there because we know
Speaker 4: that we can't handle the opposition over there. They're dominating us.
Speaker 4: But I think I think Ted was just kind of
Speaker 4: uh he was exalting emotion from the entire group. Yes,
Speaker 4: you know, like a like a tar san type Uh,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Victory victory scream by Ted carras no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a time out of come back.
Speaker 3: We are up and running towards three hours tonight. When
Speaker 3: we're ultimately done talking all things Bengals, let's get into
Speaker 3: the defense. Some of the things that have gone right
Speaker 3: with some of the things that need to be worked on,
Speaker 3: and some of the guys they're they're getting looks at,
Speaker 3: and some of the guys like Cam Taylor brid who
Speaker 3: was on the outside looking in on Thursday. We'll sort
Speaker 3: through the defense as we continue. He's Dave Lapham, I'm
Speaker 3: Lance Pacallister. Thanks for being with us tonight. It's Bengals
Speaker 3: Line and the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: We continue on in this Monday night.
Speaker 3: It's Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network. Thanks for
Speaker 3: tagging along with us talking about a big one over
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: I'm Lance Pacallister.
Speaker 3: Alongside is Dave lap When we've talked to offense Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco in a little bit of that running game. We'll
Speaker 3: get into Jamar Chase in his night a little bit
Speaker 3: later on, and so much more on the offense. Let's
Speaker 3: pick up some stuff on the defense first. The two
Speaker 3: turnovers forced, Jordan Battle gets an interception. DJ Turner for
Speaker 3: the second straight week. We're gonna talk about DJ Turner
Speaker 3: in terms of making plays and Dave on a defense
Speaker 3: that needs guys beyond Trey, they need other playmakers. DJ
Speaker 3: Turner for two straight weeks has been a guy. He's
Speaker 3: made plays.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Lance, you're right on again. You know what you're
Speaker 4: looking at, my man? I mean DJ Turner is the
Speaker 4: guy in the back end that it's making some wild plays,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean you have to have playmakers at
Speaker 4: every level. With your defensive line. You got Trey Hunters
Speaker 4: coming off the edge, you know, creating havoc, wrecking games.
Speaker 4: You know, just a consistently profound pass rusher.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You have to double and triple team the guy. And
Speaker 4: then when you do that, other guys are gonna eat
Speaker 4: because you know they're in one on one situations and
Speaker 4: and they're gonna win their share of those. At the
Speaker 4: linebacker level, you've got you know, solid play by a
Speaker 4: bunch of guys, a lot of young guys at that
Speaker 4: linebacker level that can really run, physically gifted, they've got
Speaker 4: size speed ratio pluses. And Uh, Logan Wilson has kind
Speaker 4: of made his sacrifice, and you know, things didn't go
Speaker 4: well for him. Uh, it was decided that Al Golden
Speaker 4: decided that he was gonna go in a different direction.
Speaker 4: And but but what Al Golden did is, Okay, you're
Speaker 4: you're still gonna contribute, Logan, And you're gonna contribute. And
Speaker 4: when we go three linebackers, when we go three four,
Speaker 4: three four, you're gonna be a big part of what
Speaker 4: we're doing out there. When we go five to, you're
Speaker 4: gonna be over there with me and helping maybe determine
Speaker 4: what we need to do, adjustice, we need to bake,
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. Logan Wilson has immense brilliant
Speaker 4: football IQ. He's been around, he's been around the block.
Speaker 4: He knows what he's looking at and he can still
Speaker 4: play the game. So I and then again, you know,
Speaker 4: you get in the back end, you get a guy
Speaker 4: who turners just saying I'm gonna I'm gonna take control
Speaker 4: of this football game. I'm not gonna let anybody beat me.
Speaker 4: Nobody is gonna beat me one on one. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do my job. I'm gonna take my guy out of
Speaker 4: the equation. There's no way that Aaron Rodgers is gonna
Speaker 4: throw to my guy and my my I'm taking away
Speaker 4: my portion of the field. And then uh, he's he's
Speaker 4: the best tackle that they have in space in the
Speaker 4: secondary by far. I mean, the guy is just a
Speaker 4: machine getting guys on the ground. He doesn't miss many tackles.
Speaker 4: And then when he makes it a tackle and causes
Speaker 4: a turnover, that's you know, that's cherry on top of
Speaker 4: the hot fudge Sunday man. You know, it's like that's
Speaker 4: he's playing his tailoff in every every way that you
Speaker 4: can play defensive football to impact the game for his team.
Speaker 4: Turner's doing it.
Speaker 3: David in the athleticism he showed on the sideline interception
Speaker 3: where he ripped it away and he got some help
Speaker 3: from you give Geno Stone credit for the.
Speaker 2: Smack as well.
Speaker 3: I think that maybe loosened it up a little bit
Speaker 3: for the rip away, which you know, Gino gets criticism
Speaker 3: and slings an arrows sometimes, but he was in on
Speaker 3: that play in the right spot. But DJ Turner's closing
Speaker 3: speed and the ability to rip it away along the
Speaker 3: sidelines and stay in bounds. That that was a flash
Speaker 3: of a really nice skill set.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like you say, a skill set that's just an athlete,
Speaker 4: particularly an athlete that's wearing shoulder pads and helmet, you know,
Speaker 4: a football athlete. Things that you have to have in
Speaker 4: order to be uber successful in the game of football.
Speaker 4: Turner has an abundance. He has an abundance of them,
Speaker 4: both mentally and physically. He's gifted to play this game
Speaker 4: at a very high level. The Bengals did a good job,
Speaker 4: you know, unearthing him and bringing him to the to
Speaker 4: the table to make his contributions to the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 4: and he he had one of his better games of
Speaker 4: his career in a timely fashion against a division opponent
Speaker 4: that was a very important football game.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Logan Wilson, and there's there's a couple of
Speaker 3: ways something can go when you're at this stage of
Speaker 3: your career and and you're told you're not going to
Speaker 3: get the snaps you were getting. We're gonna get younger
Speaker 3: guys in to get more snaps you. You can pack
Speaker 3: it in, you can pout, you can sulk, you can
Speaker 3: say trade me, release me, or whatever, or you can adjust.
Speaker 3: And it looks like he's adjusted. He made a play
Speaker 3: when he was in there. The Pro Football Focus great
Speaker 3: say the plays he was in he he graded well.
Speaker 2: So that tells me he understands.
Speaker 3: I'm I can still be useful for this team and
Speaker 3: I can still make my presence felt, and that's not
Speaker 3: always the case with guys who lose the playing time.
Speaker 4: Right on, Lance, you right on again, and Logan Wilson understands,
Speaker 4: like you were talking about, I can I can be
Speaker 4: a problem, or I can be a solution to a problem.
Speaker 4: And I'd prefer to be the solution to the problem.
Speaker 4: I'd rather help my teammates every way I possibly can,
Speaker 4: both physically and mentally. I'd rather help my teammates get
Speaker 4: ready to play at the highest level that they can
Speaker 4: possibly play at. I'd love to see all my teammates,
Speaker 4: you know, lead the team in tackles and and make
Speaker 4: a lot of money. Because Logan Wilson is he's played
Speaker 4: a long time, he's made money, and you know he
Speaker 4: and his family are taken care of. But shoot, no problem,
Speaker 4: no reason not to make more, and he's going to
Speaker 4: do that in his leadership. I think his leadership is
Speaker 4: is a big thing. I think during the course of
Speaker 4: the game, when there's gonna be ebbs and flows and
Speaker 4: you're gonna have leads and you're gonna, you know, spit
Speaker 4: the bit and give the leads up, and then do
Speaker 4: you have the guts and determination wherewithal to continue to
Speaker 4: play and get the lead back? And in the National
Speaker 4: Football League, more games come down to one score or
Speaker 4: less at the end of the football game than not.
Speaker 4: So you have to have guys with the mindset and
Speaker 4: the makeup of the mentality that Logan Wilson has displayed
Speaker 4: during the course of his career with the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 4: to win your share of those types of games.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that in the media session last
Speaker 3: week he more or less put his arm around Barrett
Speaker 3: Carter with the media and said, whatever this guy needs,
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, I'm here for him, and you could, as
Speaker 3: the more veteran guy, you can let him be on
Speaker 3: their own and let them think, all right, I'm going
Speaker 3: to let him fail and I'm going to get my
Speaker 3: job back. Instead he's right there for him, passing on
Speaker 3: his working knowledge, which is the essence of being a
Speaker 3: professional player.
Speaker 5: Right on, right on again.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's not easy to do sometimes, you know,
Speaker 4: but it's how you can continue to have a career.
Speaker 4: And maybe Logan Wilson might consider coaching, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know what his aspirations are after playing the
Speaker 4: game of football.
Speaker 5: I think he'd be a damn good coach.
Speaker 4: I think he has that type of that type of personality,
Speaker 4: that type of mentality, that type of mindset. He is
Speaker 4: a very very intelligent football player. Like we've talked about.
Speaker 4: The other thing that this shows is on both sides
Speaker 4: of this. It's like, you know, Logan Wilson, he could
Speaker 4: have been like, I'm too cool for school. This sucks.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to help you a bit. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I hope you fall flat in your face, and I
Speaker 4: might even try to do as much as I possibly
Speaker 4: can to make sure you fall flat in your face.
Speaker 4: Just the opposite, like you talked about how he's been
Speaker 4: handling it, and then Barrett Carter, he respects Logan Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he respects what he's done. So he's not going to
Speaker 4: be like, you know what, Yeah, I'm the young buck.
Speaker 4: I'm better than you. I can kick your butt, man,
Speaker 4: I can do whatever, you know, And I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be a Pro Bowl player. I'm gonna be you know,
Speaker 4: no arrogance, no conceit, you know, none of those kind
Speaker 4: of things. And I think once again you have to
Speaker 4: give credit to Duke Tobin in the scouting department for
Speaker 4: finding guys that aren't just good football players, but are
Speaker 4: damn good people.
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Speaker 4: providing the best care for the best fans. The tight
Speaker 4: end position got beaten up a little bit, Lance, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, Mike H. Sticky strand pulled, whatever the case
Speaker 4: may be. We don't have all details the severity of
Speaker 4: the poll of a pectoral muscle, which is up in
Speaker 4: the check. You know, you have the pack, you have
Speaker 4: the major and minor pectoral, and so that's that's good.
Speaker 4: That's a tough injury because you can't put your hands
Speaker 4: above your head, you know, to catch the football. You
Speaker 4: can't block and finish and extend your arms. Depending on
Speaker 4: this verity again of the pectoral injury. So he you know,
Speaker 4: he may might be out a little bit. And uh,
Speaker 4: now you have uh uh Hudson another tight end that's
Speaker 4: got concussion.
Speaker 5: He was in concussion protocol. So how long is that
Speaker 5: going to be?
Speaker 4: When will he be cleared? Will he be playing this week?
Speaker 4: Well maybe not this week, but will he be playing
Speaker 4: the following week?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Sometimes concussions can be you know, dicey, They can be tricky.
Speaker 4: It can be two three weeks or whatever. Uh, you know,
Speaker 4: down the down the down the road. And then Trey Hendrickson,
Speaker 4: your best pass rusher, has got a hip issue and
Speaker 4: and let's face it, that's not an easy injury to
Speaker 4: overcome and get back out on the football field and
Speaker 4: knock heads with big you know, six foot five three
Speaker 4: and twenty pound offensive tackles snap after snap. So they
Speaker 4: do have their share of injury, not as bad as
Speaker 4: some teams around the National Football League, but they're not
Speaker 4: injury free as well.
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Speaker 3: Glance but now Lester Dave Lapham sorting through a big
Speaker 3: Thursday night went over the Steelers. We'll look ahead to
Speaker 3: the New York Jets as well, and let's look back
Speaker 3: on what we saw on Thursday night, Dave a pleasant site.
Speaker 2: They a Joe Burrow sighting, yes on the.
Speaker 3: Sidelines walking around, uh, and I think it encouraged everybody.
Speaker 3: He was off the little scooter thing he's been using.
Speaker 3: Still a ways away, but reports from the NFL network
Speaker 3: where things are going well. He's targeting mid December. Now,
Speaker 3: there's a long way to go between now and then,
Speaker 3: but it's a great sign to see Joe up and
Speaker 3: walking around.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think, honestly, Joe Flacco was glad to
Speaker 4: see him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I mean, what.
Speaker 4: The world of quarterback position in the National Football Leagues
Speaker 4: of fraternity, and it's a pretty small fraternity, and there's
Speaker 4: a big level of respect there amongst these quarterbacks and
Speaker 4: the talents that these quarterbacks do have, and every quarterback
Speaker 4: knows exactly what the other quarterbacks going through, you know.
Speaker 4: And so Joe Flacco, he I'm sure he is welcoming
Speaker 4: any comments, any not criticisms, but any input. Yeah, good,
Speaker 4: good word input that Joe Borrow may have in terms of, hey,
Speaker 4: when you're running that play, when they call it again,
Speaker 4: because we'll call it because we picked up twelve yards,
Speaker 4: so they're going to call this thing again, this tight
Speaker 4: end drag across man. Let them clear a little longer,
Speaker 4: you know, and it'll it'll be a home run. It'll
Speaker 4: go for even more yards. Or you know, when they're
Speaker 4: in cover two pre snap, they're giving this little tell.
Speaker 4: I see this tip that the strong safety is doing
Speaker 4: before he drops down in the box, and you know,
Speaker 4: and the free safety is rotating and you know to
Speaker 4: cover one. And you might have seen it, Joe. If
Speaker 4: you haven't, here's what I saw, you know, And I
Speaker 4: just want to make sure that you know. If I'm
Speaker 4: seeing things over here on the sideline, I want to
Speaker 4: make sure that you're seeing them as well out in
Speaker 4: the football field, because I want to do everything I
Speaker 4: possibly can to help my football team win the football game,
Speaker 4: because I can't do anything physically, so all I can
Speaker 4: do is help from a from a metal standpoint. And
Speaker 4: nobody has as good a mind for the game of football.
Speaker 5: As Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: And there there is a The report was mid December. Again,
Speaker 3: this is all who knows this will be. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of hurdles to clear in the rehab and it's
Speaker 3: got to keep going right and at least though mid December.
Speaker 3: It causes me to at least look at the schedule.
Speaker 3: I say, all right, there's six more games to get
Speaker 3: to mid December. That's December fourteenth. If I account mid
Speaker 3: is December fourteenth. Can this team hang around, stay in
Speaker 3: contention and like build a bridge almost to Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: and that that sure beats sitting at two and five
Speaker 3: had you lost Thursday and having no bridge to build bingo.
Speaker 4: It does, and what it gives the football team thinking that, wow,
Speaker 4: the middle of December, we may have the best quarterback
Speaker 4: in the National Football League back throwing to Jamar Chase
Speaker 4: and T Higgins and I mean andre Yosi Vash and
Speaker 4: hopefully Kasiki's back by then. And you know, Hudson and everybody,
Speaker 4: we have all of our our arsenal, all of our weapons.
Speaker 4: It gives us hope, man, and there's there's nothing better
Speaker 4: than hope, you know, keep hope alive. And and that's
Speaker 4: what that's what this will do. And it just it
Speaker 4: just gives the team probably feels a lot more whole. Yes,
Speaker 4: when Joe Burrows on the sideline, be it in a
Speaker 4: boot or whatever the case may be, uh supporting that
Speaker 4: that injury that he's got.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's it's all good.
Speaker 4: There's no there's no negative whatsoever in any way, shape
Speaker 4: or form about Joe Burrow being down that sideline.
Speaker 3: I had heard, and this had bugged me for the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. I don't think people understood what
Speaker 3: Joe was going through. I had heard from a number
Speaker 3: of people who said, why isn't Joe with the team,
Speaker 3: Why isn't Joe helping it? And and one the initial
Speaker 3: surgery left him on a scooter with with his leg
Speaker 3: up on a pad.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 3: So one, you're not gonna you're not going to travel
Speaker 3: with your scooter on a plane and deal with all
Speaker 3: that and through the airports and everything else. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna be on the sidelines on a scooter and open
Speaker 3: yourself up at being immobile if a play comes out
Speaker 3: of bounds and runs in. I mean, there were just
Speaker 3: too many things that could go wrong. So I never
Speaker 3: understood why anybody would want Joe based on everything he
Speaker 3: was having to deal with with the scooter, why anybody
Speaker 3: thought he should have been with the team at that point.
Speaker 5: I agree. I agree with all of that. I mean
Speaker 5: that physical part.
Speaker 4: I mean it's hard for him to move around, hard
Speaker 4: for him to, you know, travel with the apparatus, got
Speaker 4: to pack it underneath the plane and you know everything else.
Speaker 4: So it's not an easy chore. Plus the other thing is,
Speaker 4: let's face it, broadcasters would be looking at, say, Joe
Speaker 4: Flacco makes a poor decision that throws internship. Oh man,
Speaker 4: look Joe Burrow sitting on that sideline looking. I wonder
Speaker 4: what he's thinking. I wonder what's going through Joe Burrow's
Speaker 4: mind right now when Joe Flacco throws that key interception
Speaker 4: with two minutes to go in the first half, boy
Speaker 4: oh boy, and all of that can't that big can
Speaker 4: of worms gets opened up, and you know it's it's
Speaker 4: tough enough for Joe Flacco in a short period of
Speaker 4: time to get ready to play to the level that
Speaker 4: he's played at US, never mind being compared to Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow at his best, when he's potential MVP candidate in
Speaker 4: the National Football League.
Speaker 3: I'm and I've never gone through turf toe. I think
Speaker 3: it would be interesting and fascinating to think if everything
Speaker 3: starts at your base and your feet. I wonder how
Speaker 3: much rehab, what what rehab is like for Joe or
Speaker 3: if mid December is doable. It's not like you can
Speaker 3: you can do any running conditioning and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess you can sit there and throw a football.
Speaker 3: But when everything starts at your feed and your toes,
Speaker 3: it's got to make it tough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's brutal.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the it's the base of your foundation,
Speaker 4: you know, and uh, all your weight gravity, and it
Speaker 4: takes it takes it right down there. I did have
Speaker 4: turf toe. Mine was caused by you know, on on
Speaker 4: the goal line trying to block and get underneath people
Speaker 4: and borrow under and banging shan my toe into the
Speaker 4: the astra turf, the fake fake grass which had no padding.
Speaker 5: I mean it was hardest rock and uh and.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm telling you as alignment it was, it was
Speaker 4: not as severe probably as Joe's, but it was painful.
Speaker 4: I mean, there was definitely something there. It wasn't normal,
Speaker 4: that's for sure. Man, telling you you just in your mind,
Speaker 4: your mind is don't favorite, don't favorite, you know, treated equally,
Speaker 4: treated just like the other one. But man, that pain
Speaker 4: is like the pain's there for a reason. God invented
Speaker 4: pain to let you know, dude, cut it out, don't
Speaker 4: be stupid. Stop it, you know. So yeah, there's no
Speaker 4: there's no magic wand that Joe Burrow can wave and
Speaker 4: uh and and you know eliminate his his issue, his injury.
Speaker 4: So he has to be has to be mindful of that.
Speaker 4: And if you try to come back too quickly, which
Speaker 4: I tried to do for practice standpoint, I tried to
Speaker 4: come back a day earlier than I should have, jammed
Speaker 4: that bad boy up, tweaked it and like, whoa man,
Speaker 4: that put me back a little bit. And now you're
Speaker 4: not only back, but you're worse.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: You're like if there are steps leading down to the basement,
Speaker 4: instead of four step down, you're the fifth step down,
Speaker 4: you know. And it's like, oh, brother, why did I
Speaker 4: do it? That was stupid? Why did I do that? Well,
Speaker 4: you did it because you love your team, You love
Speaker 4: your teammates. You want to do what you can to
Speaker 4: help your coaches, you know, keep their jobs and win
Speaker 4: as many football games as they can.
Speaker 3: Final thought, as we hit the brake, if we were
Speaker 3: looking at that December fourteenth return, potentially just as a
Speaker 3: moving target, there'll be four games left in the regular
Speaker 3: season that would include Baltimore at the Dolphins home to
Speaker 3: the Cardinals and home to the brown So they'd be
Speaker 3: thirteen games into the season with four games left. If,
Speaker 3: in fact, Joe could hit a December fourteenth target. That's
Speaker 3: a big if at this point, but it's certainly an
Speaker 3: if that is worth at least considering and getting a
Speaker 3: little excited about with the possibilities.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you look at those That's not Murderer's role,
Speaker 4: it's not. I mean Baltimore. Baltimore is struggling right now,
Speaker 4: but you know Lamar Jackson's out. They have more guys
Speaker 4: out than they have playing. Yes, if the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 4: roster there's playing now, it's.
Speaker 5: Like, who are these guys?
Speaker 4: You know, you need a who's who of football to
Speaker 4: identify who the players are. They'll they'll probably all be
Speaker 4: back and playing at a relatively high level. They'll probably
Speaker 4: have been playing for at least a couple of weeks
Speaker 4: before they match up against the Cincinnati Bengals. But man,
Speaker 4: the other teams, if the Bengals can't beat them, they
Speaker 4: don't deserve to be in the playoff hunt anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the name of the name of the game.
Speaker 3: Well, when we come back, I've had a question ask
Speaker 3: of me a lot that I'll ask you to you
Speaker 3: and it's and we just went through what Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: might be able to do to help Joe Flacco. I've
Speaker 3: been asked a lot about does Joe Flacco. Can Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow learn things from Joe Flacco? Flacco is the most
Speaker 3: experienced quarterback that Joe's had with him on the team
Speaker 3: at one time. Yeah, seen a lot, done a lot
Speaker 3: things that maybe Joe could learn and see through Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco's performance. Let's do a little bit of that and
Speaker 3: more as we continue. It's Bengals Line on the Bengals
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Speaker 3: So day we were talking about Joe Flacco, we were
Speaker 3: talking about Joe Burrow. Joe Flacco clearly has the most
Speaker 3: impressive resume, the most accomplished quarterback that Joe has played
Speaker 3: with on this Bengals roster. He's never had a backup
Speaker 3: or now obviously a starter in Flacco, who's done what
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco has done.
Speaker 2: Is there are there things.
Speaker 3: You And I'm always I'm always big on getting different perspective,
Speaker 3: but a different a different way of looking at things
Speaker 3: and fresh eyes and and I think it's good for
Speaker 3: Joe now, especially now that he's with the team, to
Speaker 3: see someone else do what he did and know that
Speaker 3: it's done from somebody has accomplished is Joe Flacco. There's
Speaker 3: got to be nuances or mannerisms or get tendencies. There's
Speaker 3: got to be a variety of things that could be
Speaker 3: there to be picked up on by Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would think there's ways that he can
Speaker 4: tweak his game, you know. And good call by you.
Speaker 4: You're a very intelligent man. I mean you you you
Speaker 4: try to learn as much as you can every single day.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the day that any of us
Speaker 4: say absolutely, I don't want I don't want to even
Speaker 4: hear anything anymore. I don't want to don't don't muddy
Speaker 4: the waters. Man, don't cloud the issue. To me, I've
Speaker 4: got to figure it out. That's the first day you're
Speaker 4: on the way down, you know, that's the first day
Speaker 4: you're you're closer to not retire, either retirement or getting fired,
Speaker 4: you know, and people people moving on. And and I
Speaker 4: do think that Joe Burrow does look at Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: as somebody that, man, this guy's a great resource for me.
Speaker 4: I love learning all I can about the game of football.
Speaker 4: I'm a football savant. I want to know everything there
Speaker 4: is to know about the game and how to play
Speaker 4: the game, and how to play the game at the
Speaker 4: highest level. And Joe Blaco has been an MVP, Joe
Speaker 4: fat Flacco has won playoff games, you know, in neither
Speaker 4: one of us have won the Super Bowl. Yet that's
Speaker 4: our ultimate goal. If we collaborate and do things the
Speaker 4: right way here, one plus one is going to equal three.
Speaker 4: It just won't eat just won't equal two. You know,
Speaker 4: there'll be a synergistic effect here that will help the
Speaker 4: entire football team.
Speaker 3: And David, I wonder and their there are stark differences
Speaker 3: between the two in terms of what we talked about
Speaker 3: with Joe Flacco earlier. He will when the play isn't there,
Speaker 3: he won't try to make something of it. He moves on.
Speaker 3: Joe is different from the standpoint. Joe's very good at
Speaker 3: extending plays and trying to get that wide receiver. Ope,
Speaker 3: but at the last minute, maybe taking a hit sometimes
Speaker 3: it might lead an interception. I wonder if Joe sees
Speaker 3: a different way of maybe I don't always have to
Speaker 3: extend plays. Maybe there is something to be said for
Speaker 3: don't take the hit or don't risk the throw, just
Speaker 3: throw it away and move on to the next play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with reevaluating you the
Speaker 4: way you look at your game, you know, uh, the
Speaker 4: way you look at the game of football as a whole.
Speaker 4: Let's face it, the way Joe Borrow has been doing
Speaker 4: it has led quite a bit of injury. I mean
Speaker 4: he's been he's been dinged up a lot. Uh and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, high school, he was just better than everybody
Speaker 4: physically better. Same same at the collegiate level, although you know,
Speaker 4: they were physically much more unique at the collegiate level
Speaker 4: than at the high school level. And now you face
Speaker 4: the most unique, uh, physical specimens in the in the
Speaker 4: National Football League, So you know you're advancing and and uh,
Speaker 4: all it takes is one blow.
Speaker 5: One blow and you're out. Man.
Speaker 4: So you do you have to be judicious. You have
Speaker 4: to be, you know, really thoughtful in how you approach.
Speaker 4: How many hits do I want to take?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: How much of a beating do I want to take?
Speaker 4: I want to win games. I want to win games
Speaker 4: for my teammates. I want to, you know, win division titles.
Speaker 4: I want to win conference championships. I want to win
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. But you have to do it judiciously.
Speaker 3: Another thought on on Joe Flah and this not tied
Speaker 3: specifically to Joe Burrow, but I think everybody in that
Speaker 3: locker room. I until he came here, My knowledge of
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco was simply watching him play and hearing a
Speaker 3: SoundBite or two maybe every week.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: The more I listen to Joe Flacco, the more impressive
Speaker 3: he is from just his big picture understanding and appreciation
Speaker 3: of things there. And I'm not saying he's like the
Speaker 3: adult in the room or the grandfather in the room,
Speaker 3: but he just sounds he sounds different than everybody else
Speaker 3: in this team because he maybe it's just because he's
Speaker 3: forty and live life longer than anybody else. I just
Speaker 3: find him very reflective and refreshing to hear.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's so experienced.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like there's not one dynamic in life
Speaker 4: that he hasn't gone through probably, you know. I mean
Speaker 4: it's whether it's his family, his football family, whatever the
Speaker 4: case may be. I mean, I do know in talking
Speaker 4: to him that the single most important thing to him
Speaker 4: is his wife and children. And he's got five kids
Speaker 4: and they're raising a beautiful family. He wants to make
Speaker 4: sure that everything is done right in that regard, doesn't
Speaker 4: want to jeopardize anything with respect to that, but he
Speaker 4: does know that, you know, football is a good way
Speaker 4: to make their life a little bit better, a lot
Speaker 4: better really, And there's economics involved that he's done exceptionally
Speaker 4: well and he's going to continue to do well, and
Speaker 4: his team will, his team, his family will thrive as
Speaker 4: a result of that. So he is a very mature
Speaker 4: human being. I think he's even mature beyond his years.
Speaker 4: And Joe Flackell understands life, understands football life, and understands
Speaker 4: how they're related.
Speaker 3: I love the fact he was talking last week about
Speaker 3: once in his mind he knew he wanted to keep
Speaker 3: playing and made the commitment mentally to it. You know,
Speaker 3: things like taking care of your body or understanding situations
Speaker 3: and how each situation he's been in has helped in
Speaker 3: the next situation. And maybe it was a place he
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily want to be, maybe he didn't want to
Speaker 3: be the backup, but he used it as a learning
Speaker 3: experience to get to through it to the next thing.
Speaker 3: And this is the next thing, and it's it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to say the Fountain of Youth, but
Speaker 3: I would. There's a lot of juice behind this for
Speaker 3: him as well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And how about this question, what tandem or duo
Speaker 4: of quarterbacks in the NFL is going to be better
Speaker 4: than Joe Burrow and Joe Flacco. When Joe Burrow is
Speaker 4: able to come back. Great Joe Flacco as a backup quarterback,
Speaker 4: I mean, he may be the best backup quarterback in
Speaker 4: the history of the National Football League, particularly if he play.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's playing very well right now. And as
Speaker 4: the weeks go by and he gets more and more
Speaker 4: familiar with the game plan on a repetition repetition preachs
Speaker 4: comfort level on a week by week basis, his level
Speaker 4: of play is going to increase. I mean, he will
Speaker 4: put up significant numbers. And I'm not saying that Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow won't get a starting job back, you know, but
Speaker 4: when he comes back, it's not gonna be a quarterback controversy.
Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna be. It's gonna be an embarrassment
Speaker 4: of riches at the quarterback position, is what it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have arguably the greatest quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 4: as a starter, and the greatest backup quarterback in the
Speaker 4: NFL is your backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: Can't beat that one too much. Perfect segue.
Speaker 3: In our next segment, let's talk about perhaps the maybe
Speaker 3: not even perhaps maybe a given the best wide receiver
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 5: What JR.
Speaker 2: Chase did on Thursday night. Holy cow.
Speaker 3: Let's give him some love and continue conversation along those
Speaker 3: lines as we continue with Bengals Line on the Bengals
Speaker 3: Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back to
Speaker 3: Bengals Line of this Monday night of the Bengals Radio Network.
Speaker 3: In seven hundred WLW, we have sorted through Thursday night
Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh Steelers on both sides of the football
Speaker 3: got into Joe Flacco as well. Let's spend some time
Speaker 3: on Jamar Chase targeted twenty three times, twenty three targets,
Speaker 3: forty seven pass attempts by Joe Flaccoie hauls in sixteen
Speaker 3: of those for one hundred and sixty one yards in
Speaker 3: a touchdown, and man I by halftime started the third quarter,
Speaker 3: I thought sure he was gonna.
Speaker 2: Get twenty catches.
Speaker 3: They just kept going to him and going to him,
Speaker 3: and he just kept catching him.
Speaker 5: He's unbelievable. And what it showed me these kind of numbers.
Speaker 4: When you're targeted twenty three times, sixteen catches, one hundred
Speaker 4: sixty one yards and a touchdown, that is tiring. His
Speaker 4: physical conditioning is great, point incredible. It's remarkable to do
Speaker 4: that at the NFL level against you know, great physical specimens.
Speaker 4: These guys are jamming you, you know, pushing you around,
Speaker 4: trying to get you off course, double teaming you. You're
Speaker 4: going through contact, you're sprinting, you're running full speed, and
Speaker 4: then you're breaking it down. That That is tiring, going
Speaker 4: full speed and chopping it down to you know, and
Speaker 4: then making a cut up, you know, change in direction
Speaker 4: off of that. That is man mind boggling for him
Speaker 4: to be as fresh as he was in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: And I didn't notice any difference in him coming off
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and how he was attacking defensive
Speaker 4: backs in quarter number one or quarter number four, I mean,
Speaker 4: or any time in between. He is something else. I mean,
Speaker 4: And then I was watching him. When are you gonna
Speaker 4: drink water?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 5: I mean, for crying out loud, what are you a machine?
Speaker 5: Or what are you? It's He'll take like a little
Speaker 5: simple water here and there.
Speaker 4: You know. It is just it's unbelievable to watch him
Speaker 4: perform his craft. He is as good at what he
Speaker 4: does as anybody doing anything in the entire world.
Speaker 3: His his strength in the ability to create yards after
Speaker 3: catch and break tackles. It is I mean, sometimes you
Speaker 3: think he's not even humid. He's like a robot. He
Speaker 3: just sheds people who it looks like he's wrapped up
Speaker 3: and he just breaks that.
Speaker 2: The strength is just off the charts.
Speaker 4: I'm a great point again, Lance, I'm wondering of the
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty one yards, how many of those
Speaker 4: are yards after catch, yards after contact? A bunch, I mean,
Speaker 4: a good a good percentage I bet forty percent anyway
Speaker 4: that that that is, that's just remarkable and in the
Speaker 4: red zone because all the things you're talking about, how
Speaker 4: strong he is, how physically dominant he is, and the
Speaker 4: size speed ratio he has the best size speed ratio
Speaker 4: in the NFL. And you watch him in the weight
Speaker 4: room and you watch him power clean weight, you watch
Speaker 4: him deadlift weight, It's like, what the hell I mean
Speaker 4: he's stalling weights around that offensive and defensive lineman throw around,
Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase is just, you know, very casual, nonchalant
Speaker 4: about the whole thing. It's like, you know, hey, another
Speaker 4: day at the office. Here we go. I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to make myself better. And that that's the thing about
Speaker 4: him is he is the ultimate competitor, uber uber competitive.
Speaker 3: And David, I know he's still early in his career,
Speaker 3: and I'm not making this as a declaration, but when
Speaker 3: you think all that this franchise has seen from from
Speaker 3: Isaac Curtis to Chad Johnson to A. J. Green to
Speaker 3: to Carl Pickens and all their skill sets, I look
Speaker 3: at the combined skill set of Jamar Chase and I say,
Speaker 3: you guys are great. Yeah, the one package what Jamar
Speaker 3: is it's hard to comprehend.
Speaker 4: It's totally unique. Yes, I mean it's dynamic, is what
Speaker 4: he what it is. And I think all of those receivers.
Speaker 4: I've talked to Isaac Curtis about Jamar Chase, He's like, oh, man, dude,
Speaker 4: he's a freak. There's a freak as a way, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like his physical specimen.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know all of them feel that way.
Speaker 4: You know, it's that's universal and that uh that's a
Speaker 4: credit to Jamar Chase. And I think they also like
Speaker 4: the fact that he doesn't freelance, and he he doesn't
Speaker 4: you know, he's not interested in, you know, having his
Speaker 4: numbers be the story. He wants the store to be
Speaker 4: the team one. And then there's a subplot by the way,
Speaker 4: you know, I had sixteen catches one hundred sixty one
Speaker 4: yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 5: He didn't want it to be the other way around.
Speaker 4: And uh, yeah, he's he is the consummate professional of
Speaker 4: the consummate teammate.
Speaker 3: What I really loved on Thursday night and I'm I
Speaker 3: love taking what you're given, and that was there. They
Speaker 3: just kept going to it. Yeah, they kept it was
Speaker 3: successful and they kept going, and Joe Flacco targeted the
Speaker 3: two of them, chasing Higgins thirty seven thirty three times
Speaker 3: between the two of them.
Speaker 2: But he just kept going to Chase because it was.
Speaker 3: There, the advantage was there, and he was just rolling
Speaker 3: and there was no state.
Speaker 2: He just kept feeding him the ball. And I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And why not if it's working, keep going to it exactly.
Speaker 5: And I can't I can't believe that. You know that
Speaker 5: they stayed in the coverage.
Speaker 4: They didn't said, you know, so Flacco Chase look at
Speaker 4: each other, gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 4: Give you a tip of the cap, you know, a
Speaker 4: little a little non little bow or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, eventually they may come out of it, but
Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like they're in any hurry, that's for
Speaker 4: darn sure. And I think the running game was a
Speaker 4: factor in that as well. I feel like Tomlin felt
Speaker 4: like he had to do certain things and commit certain
Speaker 4: numbers of linebackers and safeties from a personnel standpoint to
Speaker 4: the running game because Chase Brown was so effective, and you.
Speaker 5: Know, that's what you want. Man.
Speaker 4: When you have a balanced attack like that, it makes
Speaker 4: it almost impossible for a defense to defend. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't want to be one dimensional. You want to
Speaker 4: be balanced, and the Bengals were the definition of it.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 3: I remember I laughed because Joe Flacco has mentioned in
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks what he's learning about Higgins
Speaker 3: and Chase and just how darn good they are. And
Speaker 3: I think of Flacco's career, and he's had some okay
Speaker 3: receivers along the way, but I go back to Week
Speaker 3: one with the Browns where he had a couple of
Speaker 3: his passes the receivers bobbled and they turned into interceptions.
Speaker 3: And to think of where Flacco was at one point
Speaker 3: in his career to now being able to throw to
Speaker 3: Chase in Higgins. I mean, Joe Flacco's got to go
Speaker 3: home every night and tell his wife.
Speaker 2: You want I mean, this is heaven.
Speaker 4: I've got two of the best of the game catch
Speaker 4: of my passes exactly. I think he probably goes to
Speaker 4: Holmes Her and says, honey, now I know what football
Speaker 4: heaven is. You know the football gods. I know there
Speaker 4: are football gods now. I wasn't sure for a while,
Speaker 4: and I know there are now because they've they've really
Speaker 4: blessed me man and I have got a couple of
Speaker 4: studs that I'm able to compete with and throw the
Speaker 4: football to on a weekly basis, And man, it's like
Speaker 4: I just can't wait. I can't wait for the game plans.
Speaker 4: I got coaching staff that knows what the hell they're doing,
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, Dan Pitcher, and I got receivers that can
Speaker 4: execute it.
Speaker 5: And man, I am in hog Heaven.
Speaker 3: Take a time out of continue. Let's flip back to
Speaker 3: the defensive side of things, because I must. We must
Speaker 3: address why why is tackling so hard in the NFL
Speaker 3: these days? Why are there so many miss tackles. Let's
Speaker 3: get into that. We'll do an extensive study of tackling
Speaker 3: as we continue. It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio
Speaker 3: Network in seven hundred WLW. Let's keep rolling right along
Speaker 3: and this Monday night, working our way through three hours
Speaker 3: of Bengals conversation and eventually into Jets conversation. The opponent
Speaker 3: on Sunday at pay Corpse Stadium, I'm alliance, Butacallister, he
Speaker 3: is Dave Lapham. We talked about the defense and the
Speaker 3: takeaways on Thursday night. There continues to be the thread
Speaker 3: of the issue of tackling. And it's not just the
Speaker 3: Bengals around it's amazing around the NFL how many misstackles
Speaker 3: there are. I haven't seen an official number from Thursday night,
Speaker 3: there was a rather large number from.
Speaker 4: The week before.
Speaker 3: Why let me ask it this way, if you're a
Speaker 3: poor tackling team, how do you make Is there a
Speaker 3: way to make yourself a better tackling team.
Speaker 4: I think that in today's football coaches, head coaches, coordinators,
Speaker 4: they're hesitant about doing routine tackling drills because of the
Speaker 4: possibility of injury. Yep, they are so scared that they're
Speaker 4: gonna lose, fearful of losing one of their star players,
Speaker 4: you know, in a routine tackling drill where it's like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember Paul Brown. We didn't hit all
Speaker 4: that much in practice until we did team work, and
Speaker 4: his whole thing was, I don't want to lose you know,
Speaker 4: Kenny Anderson and Isaac Curtis or Bob Trump or whatever
Speaker 4: in a you know, a stupid, you know, routine tackling drill.
Speaker 4: So there's I think there's that side of it. The
Speaker 4: other side of it is I just I just think
Speaker 4: that these offensive players are so damn good. I mean,
Speaker 4: the size speed ratio of these guys. These guys are
Speaker 4: big people that can really run and pack a hell
Speaker 4: of a punch. So they will they'll just they'll take contact.
Speaker 4: That's no big deal.
Speaker 5: I can handle.
Speaker 8: That.
Speaker 5: Is that all you get? Why don't you?
Speaker 2: Why don't you try to try to try it again?
Speaker 2: You know, let's take another rep.
Speaker 4: And it's it's amazing to watch, even watching practice, the
Speaker 4: way these guys can run through tackles.
Speaker 5: And Chase Brown is a great example.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's five ten and twenty pounds, low
Speaker 4: center of gravity, and man, when he when he lowers
Speaker 4: his pads and finishes a run when they're doing like
Speaker 4: live goal line and short Yardie Wills, he's something else.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's he'll he'll.
Speaker 4: Pack a punch, there's a surge there, and then he's
Speaker 4: an excellent blitz pickup guy to stick his nose right
Speaker 4: in the chest of linebackers and you know, have a
Speaker 4: ben his knees, have a real low, low center of gravity,
Speaker 4: low body, good receiver out of the backfield catching the
Speaker 4: ball and then you know, breaking tackles there. It's it's crazy,
Speaker 4: you know, Uh, I just I just think that tackling
Speaker 4: form is terrible in the National Football League these days.
Speaker 4: I think it's a lost I think that they should
Speaker 4: go back to football fundamentals basically, and uh.
Speaker 3: And so much of a day, it seems today has
Speaker 3: become the idea of knocking the ball loose, you know,
Speaker 3: going for the football, which is is great in theory
Speaker 3: because everybody wants a turnover to get the ball back, right,
Speaker 3: but some of the time it's it's sacrificing yardage because
Speaker 3: you're not popping it loose and you're not making the
Speaker 3: tackle and wrapping the guy up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if everybody's going for the kill, hyes, everybody's also
Speaker 4: the big play. Yep, they're like, oh my god, look
Speaker 4: at that play. You know, and uh, if if in
Speaker 4: fact you can do that during the course of action,
Speaker 4: you know, as the play is finalizing and you and
Speaker 4: you can you can take a shot at the football,
Speaker 4: you know, probably smart to do. So You've got to
Speaker 4: make sure though that you're not the only guy. You're
Speaker 4: not in space one on one. There's got to be
Speaker 4: teammates around there that if you you know, if you
Speaker 4: if it doesn't work, you don't knock it loose, you
Speaker 4: don't jar the football out of there, somebody else is
Speaker 4: going to be there to clean up and get somebody
Speaker 4: on the ground.
Speaker 3: One other aspect of this defense and it'll help, hopefully
Speaker 3: if Trey's back this week.
Speaker 2: They've got to get pressure on the court.
Speaker 3: Watching Aaron Rodgers, there was there was a lot of
Speaker 3: three four and five Mississippis I was counting on Thursday
Speaker 3: night where he was free. I mean, I think the
Speaker 3: one officially he rolled out of the pocket and had
Speaker 3: nine point eight seconds to throw, and you could give me,
Speaker 3: if you give me nine point eight second, I might
Speaker 3: be able to complay to pass. In the NFL, it
Speaker 3: was maddening how little pressure they were able to get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and trying to be I think what the defensive
Speaker 4: backs were thinking when they running round back. Can't imagine
Speaker 4: nine at ten secs, Like, come on boys, where are
Speaker 4: you guys? I mean, let's let's get the troops going here.
Speaker 4: How about getting after it a little bit. You can't
Speaker 4: cover receivers that long. They're two gifted, too talented in
Speaker 4: today's National Football League, So uh yeah, that that's something
Speaker 4: that needs to be addressed as well. The pass rush
Speaker 4: has not been what al golden wants, particularly when Trey
Speaker 4: Henderson out of the mix. I mean it was was
Speaker 4: not what what you what you need, not what you
Speaker 4: have to have to win football games.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's shocking.
Speaker 4: Everybody knows Train is the best pass rusher the Bengals
Speaker 4: have maybe the best in the National Football League. But
Speaker 4: without him, they looked very pedestrian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you could understand a little Schamarz Stewart hadn't
Speaker 3: played in almost a month, four weeks at the ankle.
Speaker 3: But Miles Murphy, Joseph Osai, there's gotta it's gotta be.
Speaker 3: It always goes back to you can count on Trey
Speaker 3: when he's in there, You've got to have somebody else
Speaker 3: who's a presence to attract some attention and create some pressures.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean you can't have everybody up and down
Speaker 4: the defensive line like ooh almost, Oh you almost got him,
Speaker 4: you almost made that play.
Speaker 5: Nah, gotta have Oh.
Speaker 4: Look at that dude, finish, look at the hit that
Speaker 4: he put on him.
Speaker 5: And they have guys that can do it.
Speaker 4: I mean the guys you rotted off there, you know, Murphy,
Speaker 4: o Sai and everybody else. Those guys need to step up,
Speaker 4: and stud they need to step up now, not later now.
Speaker 2: When we come back.
Speaker 3: One other thing that jumped out on Thursday night was
Speaker 3: the number of explosive plays. This Bengals offense had a lot,
Speaker 3: I mean big chunk plays, thirty seven, thirty seven and more.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that and what it means for this offense.
Speaker 3: They've been able to produce those big plays. As we
Speaker 3: head down the stretch in our second hour tonight, it's
Speaker 3: Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey,
Speaker 3: we're back at it on this Monday night, sorting through
Speaker 3: everything related to the Bengals from the way over the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers, looking ahead to the New York Jets coming
Speaker 3: up in our third hour tonight, and Dave, one thing
Speaker 3: that stood out on Thursday night if you look at
Speaker 3: the big plays, chunk plays even down to if you
Speaker 3: look at just plays to gain fifteen yards or more,
Speaker 3: Bengals had ten of those on Thursday night. They had
Speaker 3: thirty seven, thirty seven yards, twenty nine yards, twenty eight,
Speaker 3: twenty seven, twenty five.
Speaker 2: Eighteen, eighteen, sixteen, fifteen.
Speaker 3: That's the type of stuff, man, when your offense is,
Speaker 3: and you can get big plays and don't have to
Speaker 3: plod your way down the field with extended drives or
Speaker 3: things can go wrong. Those chunk plays are huge for
Speaker 3: this offense.
Speaker 4: They are I mean explosive plays, big plays are they
Speaker 4: They lift the spirits offensively and they absolutely crush and
Speaker 4: demoralize the defense. I mean, that was one thing that
Speaker 4: Paul Brown used to talk about all the time. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, winning the turnover battle, winning third down winning,
Speaker 4: but winning the chunk plays. The big plays make more
Speaker 4: big plays than the opponent because they are the ones
Speaker 4: that are demoralizing. And uh, you know, if you've got
Speaker 4: players like we had Isaac Curtis, the guy could make
Speaker 4: a big play in his sleep. You know, Kenny Anderson
Speaker 4: to Isaac Curtis. I heard it over and over again
Speaker 4: many times. There it is Kenny Anderson, Isaac Curtis, big play,
Speaker 4: Bengals lead, and Bengal's not gonna give the lead back.
Speaker 4: That's that's what you know. Joe Burrow has done with
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase. But Joe Flacco is already finding out that
Speaker 4: he can do with Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins isn't
Speaker 4: a bad plan. B I mean He's a significant big
Speaker 4: playmaker himself, and his is a little bit his stature
Speaker 4: is a little bit different, a little bit taller, longer arms,
Speaker 4: can tested catch when he gets, when he goes up
Speaker 4: and fights for the football, that dude comes down with
Speaker 4: it a higher percent of the time than almost any
Speaker 4: receiver I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: He is remarkable.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: It's amazing to look. In Week one against Cleveland, the
Speaker 3: Bengals had one play that gained at least fifteen yards
Speaker 3: one Thursday night.
Speaker 2: They had ten.
Speaker 3: Against Denver, they only had two plays of fifteen yards.
Speaker 3: Against Minnesota, they only had three plays of fifteen yards.
Speaker 2: It just makes it.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's something to be said for long, extended
Speaker 3: drives that killed time on the clock. You get the
Speaker 3: time of possession, wear a team down. But if you
Speaker 3: can strike with big plays chunk toss in chunk plays
Speaker 3: along the way, it.
Speaker 2: Just makes it so much. I mean, from play caller
Speaker 2: to quarterback and everybody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And you don't think Mike Tomlin was pulling
Speaker 4: his hair out by the roots and Pittsburgh gave up
Speaker 4: ten plays of fifteen years or more. That is so
Speaker 4: unlike a Mike Tomlin defensive football team, a Pittsburgh Steeler
Speaker 4: football team as well. I mean, I remember back in
Speaker 4: the day, boy, when we were playing the steel cartin
Speaker 4: at three River Stadium in Pittsburgh. In instance of home
Speaker 4: or away, it didn't matter. These guys brought it. Man
Speaker 4: and Joe Green Fats Homes, Ernie Fats Homes, Elsie Greenwood,
Speaker 4: Dwight White, Jack, Lambert Jack Ham, Andy Russell. I mean
Speaker 4: those Historically, the Rooney family has loved a defense and
Speaker 4: running game. They've always always had had that first and foremost.
Speaker 4: And then once you get the running game going and
Speaker 4: plays good solid defense, quarterback takes over and closes the
Speaker 4: game out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: A final thought on the segment, and you mentioned T,
Speaker 3: how about some credit to T and even Zach who
Speaker 3: kind of gave the heads up if the opportunity opened.
Speaker 3: It was a big play. But T goes into the slide,
Speaker 3: forcing the Steelers to burn the clock and taking away
Speaker 3: seconds from Aaron Rodgers being on the field.
Speaker 5: What a heads up play, heads up, big time.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's just you know, high football IQ
Speaker 4: by Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher. Not surprised there, obviously,
Speaker 4: they lecture their team on that type of thing, and
Speaker 4: in that type of situation, particularly final two minutes, final minute,
Speaker 4: final thirty seconds of the half of a game. And
Speaker 4: T Higgins followed suit perfectly, and you know what, very unselfish. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, he could have had an easy touchdown, but
Speaker 4: instead it's like, it's more important to me that we
Speaker 4: win the football game than I get that touchdown.
Speaker 3: Reception probably made some fantasy team owners unhappy.
Speaker 2: They'll have to live with you if you had t
Speaker 2: and your TV. You're thinking, I'm gonna score a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, why you're doing what? I've lost my
Speaker 2: I've lost my game because T Higgins went.
Speaker 5: Into a slide.
Speaker 3: All right, we put two in the book, so when
Speaker 3: we turn into our number three. I don't know if
Speaker 3: anybody in this room is aware, but Sunday is is
Speaker 3: ring of honor. I might have to ask you about
Speaker 3: Lamar Parrish when we come back, and I might have
Speaker 3: to ask you about you at some point we come
Speaker 3: back and we do. Are you prepared to do all that?
Speaker 3: I'm prepared for Lamorrow. He's Dave's Pacallister. It's a Bengals
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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, third and final hour tonight.
Speaker 3: Time flies when you're having fun. We've had fun talking
Speaker 3: Bengals Steelers. We'll get into the Jets later on this
Speaker 3: hour and this weekend is gonna be fun at the
Speaker 3: Paved Corps for Bengals and Jets Ring of Honor induction.
Speaker 3: Lamara Parrish and my guy Dave Lapham. I'll get to
Speaker 3: you in a second, sir. Let's get to Lamara Parrish.
Speaker 3: Tell me for if someone is listening right now who
Speaker 3: never got to see Lamara Parrish play, paint a picture.
Speaker 3: Tell everybody about Lamar Parrish.
Speaker 4: Lamar Parish number twenty in year program for the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 4: Number one in your heart. He was maybe the greatest
Speaker 4: athlete I've ever seen from on a football field. You
Speaker 4: see great athletes in basketball, you know, with the jumping
Speaker 4: ability and windmill dunks and you know, three sixty dunks
Speaker 4: and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: Lamar Parish could do all that.
Speaker 4: When we were playing Bengals basketball, he put on a
Speaker 4: dunk show, There's no question about that. In the offseason.
Speaker 4: But this guy long hollered than the average cornerback, very
Speaker 4: long arms, and he could he could cover ground. Boy,
Speaker 4: he could close on a on a route so quickly
Speaker 4: quarterback would think, yeah, I got got a little separation,
Speaker 4: got some disc I can fire that in there. Nope,
Speaker 4: and the balls in the air and all of a
Speaker 4: sudden the courts back, Damn, I shouldn't have thrown that one.
Speaker 4: And Lamar would make big plays, not just picking the
Speaker 4: ball off but returning it.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: He I don't know what his average yards per interception
Speaker 4: return might be, but I bet if they keep this
Speaker 4: stat in the Pro Football Hall of Fame or wherever,
Speaker 4: he's got to be in the top five in the league.
Speaker 4: I mean, he never just intercepted the ball and fell
Speaker 4: down on the ground, you know, or or let the
Speaker 4: guy tackle him.
Speaker 5: Lamar was strong.
Speaker 4: He was a very strong player, very physically gifted. And
Speaker 4: then that's not to even talk about yet his return abilities.
Speaker 4: I mean, as a point returner, kickoff returner, the best
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, bar none. I don't care. People can
Speaker 4: try to sell me on whoever else. You know, I
Speaker 4: know there were some great ones, but this guy who
Speaker 4: as a teammate, he just made so many big plays
Speaker 4: for us in then.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy four, Dabe he led the league averaging
Speaker 3: eighteen point eight yards per punt return.
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. That is sick, it really is. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you average, you know, ten yards less than that. Yes,
Speaker 4: a damn good Yes, yes you're talking about I mean that.
Speaker 4: See what they should do is take every punt return
Speaker 4: from that year and put it in a little tape,
Speaker 4: send it to Canton and put it in the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame and have people say, Okay, this is a
Speaker 4: punt returner, best example of a punt returner.
Speaker 5: This is Lamar Parrish. This is what he did.
Speaker 4: This is every return he had, you know, in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy four for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5: Take a look and see what you think.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable and hard to fathom.
Speaker 3: We're talking thirteen non offensive touchdowns in his career from
Speaker 3: kick returns.
Speaker 2: To punt returns, to fumble returns, the.
Speaker 3: Interception returns, thirteen touchdowns from a defensive player.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable, crazy, crazy, And I remember one time Paul Brown
Speaker 4: used him on to reverse because I mean, you know
Speaker 4: what not yeah, you get Isaac Curtis and put Lamar
Speaker 4: Parris in there. It's like whoa you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: Charlie Jordan is a great receiver, it just didn't have
Speaker 4: that kind of that kind of foot speed. But I
Speaker 4: mean Lamar Parris was a difference maker in every sense
Speaker 4: of the word at the at the cornerback position and
Speaker 4: tremendous versatility, could do a lot of things. He also
Speaker 4: he played the run. People don't give him enough credit.
Speaker 4: I don't think for how he could tackle in space
Speaker 4: because he such an athlete. A lot of times, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like you're looking back, would be in space and
Speaker 4: talented running back and it's like, oh it's Lamar. Were
Speaker 4: good went on and Lamar get him on the ground.
Speaker 4: He was gifted and ten total team player.
Speaker 5: He was special. Lamar Parrish A.
Speaker 3: Couple of things that point to won his athletic ability
Speaker 3: and to Paul Brown's eye for talent. He's a seventh
Speaker 3: round draft pick out of Lincoln University in nineteen seventy
Speaker 3: had never played the cornerback position and goes on to
Speaker 3: do what he does, his ability to adjust to whatever,
Speaker 3: and Paul's eye for I think I'm gonna make him
Speaker 3: this it's I mean, that's Paul Brown, it is.
Speaker 4: And and Paul would part of his evaluation process was
Speaker 4: he would give, like I was, I was involved with
Speaker 4: it when I was at Syracuse, give you a written test.
Speaker 4: And it was all kinds of stuff, all kinds of
Speaker 4: It was almost like a you know, an sat yeah
Speaker 4: type test, not anywhere near that long, you know, a
Speaker 4: lot shorter, fewer questions and all that sort of thing,
Speaker 4: but it was it was pretty expansive in terms of
Speaker 4: you know, you know, history and math and whatever else English.
Speaker 4: You know, he wanted base intelligence and then he wanted
Speaker 4: to talk to the coaches.
Speaker 3: It was after beating the Browns, if I remember correct,
Speaker 3: he was a little bit happy.
Speaker 2: He was very happy.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 2: And Lamar Lamar he was a dresser.
Speaker 4: Oh, he had a seamstress in Saint Louis, and then
Speaker 4: he had people here in Cincinnati that also uh contributed
Speaker 4: to his his wardrobe.
Speaker 5: But man.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, tailor made so they you know, perfectly
Speaker 4: form fitting and uh you know Leap Lamar was a
Speaker 4: handsome dude and you know, very very fit, very put together. Yeah,
Speaker 4: very uh you know, muscle in the right spots. He
Speaker 4: he was. He was a very uh, very.
Speaker 3: I wish I had a picture of ball and a
Speaker 3: fur coat in the fedora and uh and it was
Speaker 3: a mink too.
Speaker 4: But he had he had minks, he had raccoons, he
Speaker 4: had you name it, every every animal, squirrel, I guess,
Speaker 4: I don't know every every animal. They had enough fur.
Speaker 4: Every animal, they had enough fur that you could put
Speaker 4: put together fur coat. Lamar had it.
Speaker 2: It was great, oh beautiful.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a time back, come back more
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Speaker 3: All Right, we talked Lamar Parrish in the first segment.
Speaker 3: I must talk to you about you in this segment
Speaker 3: because you're going into the Ring of Honor. Easy, first question,
Speaker 3: will you write a speech or will you do you
Speaker 3: deliver a speech? Or do you do words off the
Speaker 3: top of your head?
Speaker 2: What? What?
Speaker 4: What happens? That's a good question. I'm not sure. I
Speaker 4: haven't been informed of that yet, but I'm sure they'll be.
Speaker 4: There's there's multiple functions. There's a breakfast, there's a dinner.
Speaker 4: There's the actual induction on you know, Ring of Honor
Speaker 4: day at at against the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: That'll be cool, getting everybody together, storytelling and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, my family, a lot of family from from
Speaker 4: New England, California, Arizona. I mean family from all over
Speaker 4: coming in. My brother, uh, my older brother, my younger sister,
Speaker 4: my younger brother, they're all coming in. And uh Lynn's
Speaker 4: side of the family, her brother, her sister in law,
Speaker 4: and and uh their their kids and grandkids. Got a
Speaker 4: got a bunch of it'll be uh. Uh we've we've
Speaker 4: maxed out our tickets, which is good. They're all being
Speaker 4: used and uh and yeah, there'll be a lot of storytelling. Uh,
Speaker 4: little little I'll have her good up and give her
Speaker 4: share of stories too.
Speaker 5: She can roll.
Speaker 2: That's it could be a podcast.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Have you been do you get measured for your coat?
Speaker 2: Have you been measured? You have?
Speaker 4: Uh? And uh that should be uh, that should be
Speaker 4: all set, all taken care of.
Speaker 5: I'll get that.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what day we're uh lined up to
Speaker 4: get that, but I'll be receiving that.
Speaker 5: And uh, you can't wait for that.
Speaker 4: That goes on on the field, you know, at halftime
Speaker 4: of the of the game against the Jets, and you
Speaker 4: know the Jets, we had some good battles man Cleco
Speaker 4: and Gaston and those big old dogs hands change, Yeah,
Speaker 4: the sack exchange they had.
Speaker 5: They had great football teams back then.
Speaker 4: And uh so it'll be uh, it'll be fun at
Speaker 4: uh one o'clock kick at pay Course Stadium.
Speaker 3: From a playing standpoint, is it safe to say, as
Speaker 3: you reflect back on your playing career, you were most
Speaker 3: proud of how versatile you were for your football team.
Speaker 4: That's that's the Yeah, that's the probably the number one
Speaker 4: and only thing probably that that I would distinguish me
Speaker 4: from anybody else would be the fact that played, you know,
Speaker 4: all five positions in the offensive line and did it,
Speaker 4: uh in one game, two different times in one year
Speaker 4: or so. That was that was always. That was an
Speaker 4: amazing thing.
Speaker 3: And uh, I still I mean you say that, I
Speaker 3: hope that hits people. Is what you just said. Take
Speaker 3: me through how it unfolded that you not not five
Speaker 3: times in different spots in one season, you did it
Speaker 3: in one game.
Speaker 2: What was that like?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was a challenge.
Speaker 4: I mean Mike McCormick was my offensive line coach and
Speaker 4: he would give us a written tests every week on assignments.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And he would give us two grades. One in the
Speaker 4: upper left hand corner was it was your grade on
Speaker 4: your position, and upper right hand corner corner was everybody
Speaker 4: on the offensive line and the five offensive lineman and uh,
Speaker 4: you know I started grading pretty well in both areas,
Speaker 4: and he's like, you know, we might, uh see, you
Speaker 4: might start working a little bit at some of these
Speaker 4: other positions.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: And particularly in past protection. You know, there's different techniques
Speaker 4: who want to teach you and blah blah blah. And
Speaker 4: Mike McCormick was an All Pro tackle himself with the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, for Paul Brown, so we had a common
Speaker 4: denominator there. But uh, yeah, Mike McCormick was a big
Speaker 4: factor in me being able to play all those all
Speaker 4: those different positions in the same game.
Speaker 3: How strongly did you consider could could we? Could we
Speaker 3: have been talking about Dave Lapham the coach instead of
Speaker 3: Dave Lapham the broadcaster. Did you think about coaching? You
Speaker 3: You thought about it strongly getting into coaching.
Speaker 2: Didn't you?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? I did.
Speaker 4: Lance, Yeah, I thought long and hard about it. Paul
Speaker 4: Brown offered it up and said, you know, think you'd
Speaker 4: be a good line coach. And he felt like at
Speaker 4: the NFL level, like I had Rock all Pirot at
Speaker 4: Syracuse who he respected, and then in the NFL level
Speaker 4: because he respected Ben Schwarzwalder so much at the collegiate level,
Speaker 4: and then at the NFL level, to have Tiger Johnson,
Speaker 4: Mike McCormick, those kind of people.
Speaker 5: He knew what they were all about.
Speaker 4: He knew he hired those guys, he knew their resumes,
Speaker 4: He knew that they were both Pro Bowl players, great linemen,
Speaker 4: great players of their era, and and had taken on
Speaker 4: the coaching profession and succeeded very very well. So, you know,
Speaker 4: he he took me into his office at the stadium
Speaker 4: and said, you know, would you have an interest? And
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not sure, let me let me think
Speaker 4: about it. And really, for the sake of my wife
Speaker 4: and children, I just didn't want to be hopscotching around
Speaker 4: here as much, so I thought, well, stay in the
Speaker 4: broadcast end of it. And it's worked out. We've been
Speaker 4: been here for fifty years, ten as a player and
Speaker 4: forty in the booth.
Speaker 3: Now, man, oh man, what what does anything stick out
Speaker 3: from your very first game as a player with the.
Speaker 4: Bengals, Boy, very first game as a player. I just
Speaker 4: know I remember my very first practice probably as much
Speaker 4: as my very first game because it was against Mike Reid.
Speaker 4: I mean, the All Pro defensive tackle who was a
Speaker 4: concert pianist and a musician songwriter. I mean, yes, this
Speaker 4: dude was unbelievably talented. My god, he was amazing. He
Speaker 4: was like sixty three two fifty five two sixty I
Speaker 4: mean so quick. It's like, I know, I didn't close
Speaker 4: my damn eyes. How the hell did he get from
Speaker 4: there to there?
Speaker 5: So fast? He was.
Speaker 4: I used to just love all the offensive line we'd
Speaker 4: stand on the side instead of sitting now with stand
Speaker 4: there and watch him.
Speaker 5: What's he gonna do? Oh?
Speaker 4: Here he comes, here it is, here's the play. He's
Speaker 4: gonna make a big one.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 4: He impacted the game from the defensive tackle position more
Speaker 4: than any alignment I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I always thought he would be a great subject for
Speaker 3: ESPN's thirty for thirty, Absolutely for people who do just
Speaker 3: don't understand and appreciate how good he was as a
Speaker 3: football player walking away from it, and how good he
Speaker 3: was a singer songwriter. He's in the Nashville Music Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame. Ronnie MILLSAP songs, Bonnie Rait songs, his own songs.
Speaker 3: I was at now I'm flashing back to this. I
Speaker 3: was at the Blind Lemon with my wife a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, first time I'd never been there, and
Speaker 3: I looked at all the pictures up on the wall
Speaker 3: of Mike Reid, and I'm like, if people only understood,
Speaker 3: there should be an ESPN thirty for thirty on the
Speaker 3: life of Mike Reid.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he really he was an unbelievable football player, and
Speaker 4: only like you said, Lance, he left the game four
Speaker 4: years after his fourth year, you had to play five
Speaker 4: to be invested pension.
Speaker 5: And he said, yeah, forget it, I'm done with it.
Speaker 4: He hated football, hated it, hated the physicality of it.
Speaker 4: I mean when I was a rookie, I was, you know,
Speaker 4: young and enthusiastic and you know, energetic, and I was
Speaker 4: coming off the line of scrimmage like it was a game,
Speaker 4: you know, and he's like, hey, hey, hey, big boy,
Speaker 4: you know sixty two, you know he settled down, Slow down,
Speaker 4: my man. Uh, you know, this is a long season.
Speaker 4: You're you're you're gonna you're gonna kill me.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's I'm not interested in in in doing this. And
Speaker 4: it's like, oh man. Then I remember him sitting me
Speaker 4: down in uh in the locker room when he was
Speaker 4: gonna retire and talking about it and how heartfelt it
Speaker 4: was and everything. He just uh, I mean, the good
Speaker 4: Lord blessed him. But he said, you know what, Lord,
Speaker 4: you also blessed me as a musician. I'm gonna try
Speaker 4: that for a while.
Speaker 3: All right, final question about your broadcasting career. Take me
Speaker 3: back to like your first year, did you what what
Speaker 3: kind of broadcasting ex did you have any broadcasting experience
Speaker 3: before you started calling games.
Speaker 5: No I didn't, I really didn't.
Speaker 4: You know, just interviews, you know with uh, with people
Speaker 4: with local you know, media in town.
Speaker 3: And you would have started with Phil Samp, right, Phil
Speaker 3: Samp was your first.
Speaker 5: Ye, Phil Samp.
Speaker 4: I've had every uh, every play by play person uh
Speaker 4: in Bengals history for radio broadcasting has been a partner.
Speaker 4: And it's been uh, it's been great. It's been very interesting.
Speaker 4: And uh, I'll tell you what, man, love football, played
Speaker 4: football ever since I could walk, really and uh and
Speaker 4: do it as long as I have truly blessed man
Speaker 4: oh man.
Speaker 3: I in fact, I wrote down I don't think I'm
Speaker 3: missing any names you would know, from Phil Samp to
Speaker 3: Ken Brews to Paul Keels right to Pete Arbagas, how
Speaker 3: do you do to Brad Johansson to now Dan Horde?
Speaker 3: Absolutely wow, man, I uh man, I we're out of time.
Speaker 3: I could do this all night. I am so before you.
Speaker 3: I just I just I hearing all your family coming back.
Speaker 3: What a weekend it's gonna be for you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. And I'm excited for my my grandchildren.
Speaker 4: You know, they're they're they're over the moon, they're on
Speaker 4: cloud dying. It's like, and buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, you're
Speaker 4: gonna go in the Ring of Honor?
Speaker 5: Is that is that?
Speaker 4: Like it's not like the Hall of Fame. I said,
Speaker 4: it's not really the Hall of Fame, but it's an
Speaker 4: you know, it's an it's a great honor achievement.
Speaker 5: I never thought I would.
Speaker 4: Uh uh so now it's and I'm I'm The thing
Speaker 4: I'm most happy about is you guys are gonna be there,
Speaker 4: and you guys are gonna be down on the field.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be on the field. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 4: So get ready tell all your friends. Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Congratulations, Thank you, very cool, very cool. Take
Speaker 4: a time out, come back. We got to head down
Speaker 4: the stretch. We've got things to get to.
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Speaker 9: Time for some fun facts with defensive end Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 9: Your roots are Jamaican? Correct?
Speaker 8: Yes, correct, my mom, everybody, Yeah, everybody, My favorite Jamaican.
Speaker 9: Ever had the chance to go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when I was little, I haven't been in like
Speaker 6: it's all of the years. Maybe now it's been in
Speaker 6: a while.
Speaker 9: You grew up near Miami. What do you like most
Speaker 9: about where you're from?
Speaker 8: Uh, the love for football, Like the city is just
Speaker 8: like it's all about football, like little league games, high
Speaker 8: school games, whatever, whatever. It is at the whole community
Speaker 8: showing up, coming out to see.
Speaker 9: And yet I've read that when you were really young
Speaker 9: you weren't really a sports kid. Is that true?
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, not at all. You know, I was more
Speaker 8: I was more of like a book nerd. Crazy to
Speaker 8: think that, but yeah, So what changed?
Speaker 9: What flipped the switch?
Speaker 8: One of my stitude teachers in third grade forced me
Speaker 8: to play football like he was not taking over an answer,
Speaker 8: so he got my grandma's number and basically forced me
Speaker 8: to force me to the part he was coaching.
Speaker 9: That that guy did you a favor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, his son is my best friend to this day.
Speaker 9: Now, is it true that you were really the last
Speaker 9: kid picked in gym class when you were about in
Speaker 9: sixth grade?
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: I was terrible. I was horrible. They used to say
Speaker 8: I have two left hands. Yeah, I was terrible.
Speaker 9: We're doing fun facts with Jamar Stewart. When you were
Speaker 9: junior in high school, one of your teammates was Ohio
Speaker 9: state wide receiver Jeremiah Smith. Could you tell them that
Speaker 9: he was going to be that guy?
Speaker 8: I knew he's gonna be great, but he just kept working.
Speaker 8: Now it just blew all everything I thought about him
Speaker 8: aout the water like that lesson was there since he
Speaker 8: came to my high school. So not a big shock.
Speaker 8: I've seen what he did, Like first couple of weeks
Speaker 8: when he was in full camp, I was like, man's crazy.
Speaker 8: As a freshman in high school.
Speaker 9: It's crazy to me to think that you two guys
Speaker 9: were in the same high school team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we weren't winning nothing.
Speaker 9: Crazy crazy, right, bad quarterback.
Speaker 6: I'll correct on D one. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 9: The other teams must have been really good.
Speaker 6: Man, I guess. So it's crazy.
Speaker 9: We're doing fun facts Schamar Stewart, You were one of
Speaker 9: the top recruits in the country. Did you enjoy the
Speaker 9: process having all of those schools and coaches essentially flirt?
Speaker 6: No? No, man, those phone calls just get crazy.
Speaker 8: I used to come home, hey man, call me, Like
Speaker 8: I got like ten calls from different coaches from all
Speaker 8: across the.
Speaker 6: Country, like, hey man, get back Abby, wait on it.
Speaker 6: Every asker your phone.
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'll be wanting to talk, Like what are
Speaker 8: they to talk about?
Speaker 9: You ultimately chose to go to Texas A and M.
Speaker 9: What did you enjoy most about your three years with
Speaker 9: the Aggies?
Speaker 8: And you know, the coaching staff there REI just treat
Speaker 8: you like family, you know, even though I'm two thousand
Speaker 8: miles away from home, Like I didn't feel like I
Speaker 8: was missing home very much. So and plus I made
Speaker 8: lifelong friends at A and M, so like I feel
Speaker 8: like I had a home away from home, you know.
Speaker 9: So I read that your nickname at Texas A and
Speaker 9: M was the Menace? Is that true? And who gave
Speaker 9: you that nickname?
Speaker 6: I forgot who exactly gave it to me?
Speaker 8: But I got it back in high school, going every
Speaker 8: day trying to get better. So of course of my
Speaker 8: practice hard, you know, make it hard for our office,
Speaker 8: you know, playing hard in practice to make our office better.
Speaker 8: And in the games, you know, I'm just all over
Speaker 8: the field and I'm just a little menace.
Speaker 6: On the field.
Speaker 9: What does the word man represent to you?
Speaker 8: Somebody has always been instructive, so I feel like that
Speaker 8: defines me very well.
Speaker 9: So I broadcast the Bengals games on the radio. When
Speaker 9: you have a sack, would you like me and my
Speaker 9: broadcast partner Dave Lapham to say a sack by the menace?
Speaker 5: I would love that.
Speaker 6: I will love that all right.
Speaker 9: Well, hopefully there will be a bunch this year. Do
Speaker 9: you have been compared to a Texas A and m
Speaker 9: legend Miles Garrett for obvious reasons, your similar size, similar
Speaker 9: athletic ability. What do you think of Miles Garrett? What
Speaker 9: do you think of the comparison?
Speaker 8: Man, he's a great player, and I feel like that's
Speaker 8: a blessing because the.
Speaker 6: Way he's doing it right now, he's coming the game.
Speaker 8: And I feel like that's a very great, great comparison.
Speaker 8: I feel like we look we match up body wise. No,
Speaker 8: I'm trying to match someone play wise.
Speaker 9: Was it a goal of yours to top the numbers
Speaker 9: that he posted at his combine?
Speaker 6: Kind of?
Speaker 5: Sort of?
Speaker 8: You know, I feel like if I could get what
Speaker 8: he got, people will look at me a different light.
Speaker 8: So I tried my hardest. He got me some arias,
Speaker 8: and I got him in some areas to.
Speaker 9: You got him in the forty, You got him in
Speaker 9: the broad jump. He got you by one inch in
Speaker 9: the vertical. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 8: That's crazy because I felt like I jumped out my spine.
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 9: All right, we're visiting with Shamar Stewart. Let's get back
Speaker 9: to athletic testing. Those numbers were freakish that you posted
Speaker 9: in Indianapolis. What do you consider to be your greatest
Speaker 9: athletic achievement? Did you dunk get a really early age?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: What stands out to you?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: I don't. I got my first dunk in sixth grade?
Speaker 9: Sixth grade?
Speaker 6: Yeah, five nine.
Speaker 9: That's amazing. You were the seventeenth overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 9: You'll always be referred to as first round draft pick.
Speaker 9: Shamar Stewart. It becomes almost like a title. Can you
Speaker 9: describe the experience of being in Green Bay at Lambeau?
Speaker 8: You know, I was really happy, you know, I was
Speaker 8: thankful for a moment, you know, me and my family,
Speaker 8: everybody that had been along with me every step of
Speaker 8: the way, it was there, so you know, you know,
Speaker 8: I just took the night in, enjoyed it. Not they
Speaker 8: didn't really have much expectations, just if it was God's playing,
Speaker 8: So just wanted to be in the moment with everybody
Speaker 8: that I love.
Speaker 9: You did a phone call with reporters afterward and you
Speaker 9: didn't specifically remember meeting with the Bengals at the combine,
Speaker 9: And I get it. It's speed dating. You're going from
Speaker 9: team to team to team. It's like, you know, fifteen
Speaker 9: minute meetings with all of these teams. When you came
Speaker 9: into Cincinnati and you saw Zach Taylor and you saw
Speaker 9: El Golden and you saw Jerry Montgomery, did it click
Speaker 9: back in? Did you remember?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, those guys.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of hard, Like you gotta remember I
Speaker 8: had twenty two formos, a couple infemos, and then I
Speaker 8: had fifteen thirty visits. So my mind is just all
Speaker 8: over the place. I'm ready for it over. I'm ready
Speaker 8: to be in one place. So when I see him, like, okay,
Speaker 8: I'm definitely remember MIDI Yo.
Speaker 9: The important thing is that they remembered you really well.
Speaker 6: I thank god they remembered me. If damn my memory,
Speaker 6: I'll probably be cooked right now.
Speaker 9: The next day, you were in Cincinnati for a news conference.
Speaker 9: You were accompanied by your mentor, Mo, the man you
Speaker 9: call dad. How did he come into your life?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: He came.
Speaker 8: He became my coach after my freshman year of high school.
Speaker 8: I remember walking to seeing him for the first day.
Speaker 6: I was maybe like.
Speaker 8: Two two fifteen. Maybe he was like and I was
Speaker 8: like two fifteen six four. He's like, I don't know
Speaker 8: who you are, but I'm gonna make your best pen
Speaker 8: of country. Fast forward five months later, I was the
Speaker 8: best parent in the country. And ever since that day,
Speaker 8: I just listened to everything he told me.
Speaker 9: Do you know what he saw in you?
Speaker 6: No, but I'm glad he did because I didn't see
Speaker 6: them myself.
Speaker 9: Time for some wild card topics now with Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 9: Who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?
Speaker 6: All time favorite athlete? Who?
Speaker 9: Derek Rosse, Derek Rose, that's a deep cut. You might
Speaker 9: be the first person who ever say Derek Rose.
Speaker 6: Man, Derek Rose is crazy.
Speaker 9: All right, Derek Rose, that's a very interesting answer. Other
Speaker 9: than playing football, what are you good at?
Speaker 6: I'm good at video games?
Speaker 8: What in particular I'm good at playing two K you know,
Speaker 8: call dow used to be my thing for a while.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to explore on the on the game of Horizon.
Speaker 9: On the flip side, is there anything that you are
Speaker 9: really terrible at?
Speaker 2: Singing?
Speaker 8: The man wanted singing. I'm terrible singing. My voice is
Speaker 8: not meant for singing. God messing with a lot of things.
Speaker 8: Was singing was not one of them. Even in the shower,
Speaker 8: Even in the shower.
Speaker 6: I'll be terrible.
Speaker 9: Have you given any thought to a SAX celebration?
Speaker 6: Get my first one?
Speaker 8: I'm a I'm gonna have to plan one out for
Speaker 8: the next one, because like now, they're coming in so
Speaker 8: but the first one, I don't got nothing plan for
Speaker 8: the first one.
Speaker 9: First one is whatever just happens in the moment, and
Speaker 9: then once you've got one under your belt, you can
Speaker 9: start playing.
Speaker 6: I make I'm gonna making my next one my signature.
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 9: Is there a team or an opponent that you are
Speaker 9: most excited to face. The Dolphins home county team, you know, the.
Speaker 8: East to have My favorite player, Tiger Carroll was my
Speaker 8: fair player for a while, being the kid watching those
Speaker 8: type of people on TV and then one now playing
Speaker 8: against them. You know, it's gonna be a big opportunity,
Speaker 8: you know, because I used to look up too those
Speaker 8: people and being being on the same field as them
Speaker 8: at the same time.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a great it's a great achievement.
Speaker 9: Christmas Week in prime time at Miami, that's gonna be
Speaker 9: quite the deal for you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, the whole family's gonna be out there.
Speaker 8: You know, everybody's gonna be cheering me on.
Speaker 6: I'm home. I anticipate be very comfortable.
Speaker 9: Did you go to games there when you were young?
Speaker 6: I went to maybe a couple, not a lot, but
Speaker 6: a couple.
Speaker 3: Part of the conversation Dan Horde had with Shamar Stewart
Speaker 3: for Fun Facts. More of that interview found on the
Speaker 3: Bengals Booth podcast Still Ahead Talk some Jets. You'll hear
Speaker 3: what Aaron Glenn had to say about changing quarterbacks yesterday
Speaker 3: and since the Bengals won, we will end the show
Speaker 3: with the presentation of the game balls and what was
Speaker 3: said in the locker room. All of that is ahead
Speaker 3: as we head down the stretch. Bengals Line on the
Speaker 3: Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back
Speaker 3: to Bengals Line on this Monday night. We do it
Speaker 3: on the Bengals Radio networking right here on seven hundred
Speaker 3: WLW Lance, but have Lester Dave lap them. Next up,
Speaker 3: those New York Jets losers yesterday thirteen to six to
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. The Jets dropped to oh to seven.
Speaker 3: They made a quarterback change in game justin fields out
Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor in Here's the opening thoughts on yesterday's loss
Speaker 3: from Jets coach Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 10: All Right, when it comes to injuries, j to Felley
Speaker 10: went out the game with a knee and Sauce and
Speaker 10: can they both had concussion.
Speaker 6: So we'll see exactly where that is.
Speaker 10: Give you guys an answer as the week progress on
Speaker 10: those three guys. When it comes to the game, I mean,
Speaker 10: obviously disappointed. Another low scoring game where the defense did
Speaker 10: a hell of a job, you know, holding this holding
Speaker 10: this team to thirteen points, getting a good amount of
Speaker 10: three and outs, but obviously not good enough. I mean,
Speaker 10: we give it too many points till I'm to win
Speaker 10: the game offensively. We have a lot of work to
Speaker 10: do and that speaks for self. We all know that.
Speaker 10: But the only thing we can do is go back
Speaker 10: to work. It's the only thing we can do. I
Speaker 10: understand the nature of the quarterback change, Listen, we needed
Speaker 10: a spark at that time. I felt it was the
Speaker 10: right time to do it. There was a tough situation
Speaker 10: for both of those guys, but it was my call.
Speaker 10: It was my call, and I felt it was the
Speaker 10: right time to do it. So when it goes into
Speaker 10: the next week, I'm not ready to sit here and
Speaker 10: say what's going on happen when next week with our quarterbacks,
Speaker 10: But I will say this, that's something I have to
Speaker 10: look at, you know, so any questions, I will say this.
Speaker 10: On a special team, I thought our special team did
Speaker 10: some good things. There was a couple of things that
Speaker 10: that we still have to work on, you know, for
Speaker 10: the most part, but there.
Speaker 5: Are some good things our special teams did.
Speaker 10: I was just gonna hurt cause canas out you know,
Speaker 10: with see exactly what it is gonna lead to because he's.
Speaker 5: He's one of our dynamic guys.
Speaker 10: But I thought there were some good things on special teams.
Speaker 4: When you did make the change, it looked like you
Speaker 4: had a little bit more flow offensively with Tyrod, even
Speaker 4: though that's a great playing.
Speaker 6: The end zone.
Speaker 5: But what did you did you feel out at all?
Speaker 10: You know, Yeah, I just I just felt like it
Speaker 10: was it was time, you know, that our team needed
Speaker 10: to spark, and I thought we did move the ball,
Speaker 10: you know, fairly well, obviously not enough to give our
Speaker 10: chief a chance to win. Yeah, those guys made two
Speaker 10: great plays on interceptions, and I guess the tough thing
Speaker 10: about that is, man, you rather have where either we
Speaker 10: catch it it's a dp I or it's incomplete, you know.
Speaker 10: And that has to be the mindset of us on
Speaker 10: offense to where we're not giving up interceptions. So but
Speaker 10: they happen, you know, got to get those guys credit.
Speaker 10: They made some plays, but we have to be able
Speaker 10: to pull out you know, these little scoring games. The
Speaker 10: thing is our guys are fighting. There's no quitting any
Speaker 10: of our guys. So I give those guys a lot
Speaker 10: of credit, but again we have to go back to
Speaker 10: work next week.
Speaker 11: Could you talk about some of the issues with past protection.
Speaker 10: They were not a big sack team coming in and
Speaker 10: I think they equals well, again, I have to go
Speaker 10: back and look at it, but it seemed like we
Speaker 10: lost a good bit of one on ones and that
Speaker 10: can happen in those situations, and I guess it's obviously.
Speaker 10: I mean, team's gonna try to pressure us, and we
Speaker 10: have to do a better job in those situations. So again,
Speaker 10: we have to look at the take, you know, see
Speaker 10: exactly what the issues are, go back to work next
Speaker 10: week and try to fix those.
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn, rookie coach, was the defensive coordinator or the
Speaker 3: Jets or the Lions last year. It becomes the first
Speaker 3: Jets coach to lose his first seven games to begin
Speaker 3: his career. Jets haven't scored an offensive touchdown in the
Speaker 3: last two weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh and seven.
Speaker 3: Boy, I'd like to jump on them quickly and give
Speaker 3: them little reason to stay engaged in the game on Sunday.
Speaker 4: I think you've hit on the biggest factor and not
Speaker 4: surprised with all the football that you've seen. Paul Brown
Speaker 4: used to say that when we were going against the
Speaker 4: team they hadn't won a game. He would be like,
Speaker 4: jump right down their throats, you know, right away, take
Speaker 4: all the air out of their out of their lungs,
Speaker 4: you know, hit them as hard as you can, for
Speaker 4: as quickly as you possibly can. We don't want to
Speaker 4: mess around. We don't want it to be scoreless after
Speaker 4: the first quarter, scores at halftime, have them in the
Speaker 4: game at the end of the third quarter. We want
Speaker 4: this game to be over with And he honestly, he
Speaker 4: remember he told me one time, I'd rather play against
Speaker 4: a team you know that's that's seven and zero rather
Speaker 4: than oh and seven, because I know my guys are
Speaker 4: going to be up to beat them. They want to
Speaker 4: be the first team to knock them off, you know,
Speaker 4: And that's just human nature. And he said, you know,
Speaker 4: he used to worry about these these games, and I
Speaker 4: think Mike, being the son of Paul Brown, I think
Speaker 4: he probably has has his share of worry about this
Speaker 4: one as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take our final time out, head down the stretch.
Speaker 3: We'll hear what it sounded like in a victorious locker room.
Speaker 3: To wrap things up on Bengals Line on the Bengals
Speaker 3: Radio network and seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go down the stretch final segment
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 3: Night here on Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network
Speaker 3: in seven hundred WLW. We always like to after victories
Speaker 3: listen in on what it sounded like and the presentation
Speaker 3: of the game balls, and you better believe we're doing that.
Speaker 3: Let's go back to Thursday night. Here is Zach after
Speaker 3: a big win over the Steelers.
Speaker 7: Sure it is early in the season, but I couldn't
Speaker 7: be happy for you guys because we've sat in these
Speaker 7: locker rooms the last four weeks and preached you guys
Speaker 7: are working hard, you're sticking together.
Speaker 11: You're about the right stuff. It's gonna come. And this
Speaker 11: feeling right now you have.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's Tony October, but the feeling reminds you of
Speaker 7: why we do this. Okay, to get a big divisional win.
Speaker 7: What's your wrecking the division right now? So we got time,
Speaker 7: we get a little streak going here, but we're gonna
Speaker 7: be in great shape. What you guys did tonight is outstanding.
Speaker 11: I got a lot of game boss to give out turnovers.
Speaker 11: Say his name a lot. I feel like Jordan Battle.
Speaker 2: Where are you at?
Speaker 11: I know, Roy City, I don't know how you did it,
Speaker 11: d J. We needed it.
Speaker 9: Man, I know I'm telling you.
Speaker 11: I'm telling you these divisual games.
Speaker 7: Every point matters Moneymack four field goals, a game.
Speaker 2: Winner points time.
Speaker 11: Man, let me start by saying this about the offense
Speaker 11: real quick.
Speaker 7: Anytime you have four hundred and seventy yards fast game
Speaker 7: one hundred and forty two rushing three forty two, that
Speaker 7: means your line your damn good job and telling us
Speaker 7: so YouTube captains got shot out game.
Speaker 11: Tell me eleven carries for.
Speaker 7: A nine point eight yard average per carry one hundred
Speaker 7: eight yards. Give me thirty one thirty one for forty
Speaker 7: seven forty two yards touchdowns.
Speaker 11: Here we go.
Speaker 7: I'm breaking his own franchise record for catches in the
Speaker 7: game sixteen. Understand, keep this filming right here, right here,
Speaker 7: keep this maintain this.
Speaker 11: Level of aity.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, game balls and the sounds of victory.
Speaker 5: Nowa day.
Speaker 3: Final thoughts on Sunday, boy, if you can get away
Speaker 3: over the Jets, he get back to five hundred all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, after everything you've been through, they would
Speaker 3: go to bed Sunday night at four and four, And
Speaker 3: how good a position would that be for this football team?
Speaker 3: After where they were to get to where they would be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're exactly right, Lance.
Speaker 4: I mean there's there's a lot of football left to
Speaker 4: be played, and uh, you know, crawling back to five
Speaker 4: hundred is nice. You know, you start off two and oh,
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor never won his first two games to start
Speaker 4: a season. And you lose four in a row. You know,
Speaker 4: it's it's the old roller coaster like we talked about.
Speaker 4: It's the National Football League. You can't give up the ship,
Speaker 4: you know if you do all go on a four
Speaker 4: game losing streak. And this team hasn't. This team does
Speaker 4: have character, they do have five or they know what
Speaker 4: it's in football games. And they just beat the division leader.
Speaker 4: So you're in second place and you just knocked off
Speaker 4: the division leader. You have two division wins, you're two
Speaker 4: and zero. Build on it. Build on it.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a playan have a great weekend again. I
Speaker 3: could not be happier for you. Sunday is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 3: Enjoy with your family, all right, shall do?
Speaker 5: Lance? Appreciate you? Sir?
Speaker 2: He is Dave Blackham. I'm Lance Pacallister.
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