1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Pay Corps proud to be the official HR software provider 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: of US Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering El best Care for the 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Best Fans, Kettering Hell official healthcare provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the best 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Bengals coverage. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: All right, let's get it going on this Monday night. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: Welcome into Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network in 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW. Lance Pacalister along with Dave Lapham and 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: Dave not a bad way to hit the mini by 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: when you go in with the victory. I woke up 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: Sunday morning and I had that thought, Wow, I kind 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: of like waking up on Sundays. Withere, the Bengals have 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: already won. There's nothing to worry about. And it was 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: a game that had a little bit of this and 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of that and a one they desperately needed. 17 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: Nice to get in the win column for the first 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: time after a four game losing streak. 19 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt, Lance, I mean, a four game 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: losing streak wears on you, you know, don't I don't 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: care who you are, what level of football you're playing, 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: what sport you're playing. You know, I mean baseball big 23 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty two. You know, four games is nothing. 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: It's one series, maybe not even that sometimes, but in football, 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's big. You know, you only get in 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 4: certain number of games, seventeen games. Now, they've got it 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: at in the regular season to go out and perform 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 4: and show what you got as a football team and 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: as an individual player, and you don't want to waste 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 4: any of them. And they felt like they had wasted 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: a month or so of their season. But then in 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: comes Joe Flacco and he comes, you know, he answers 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: the bell they put out the emergency call, you know, 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: and Joe Flacco picked up the phone and the other 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: end and said, yeah, I'm all in, I'm ready. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: To do this. 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: And you know, he knew all about the Cincinnati Bengals. 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: He played against him many times. He had a good 39 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: idea what Zach Taylor was about, and what kind of 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: offense the Bengals had, and what kind of offensive weapons. 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: More importantly, the Bengals had, particularly ones to throw to, 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: and he has a mirriad of those. There's no doubt 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: I mean Jamar Chase is the best in football. Another 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: sixteen catchers hundred and sixty one yards in a touchdown. 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: Te Higgins lit it up. Chase Brown rush for over 46 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,279 Speaker 4: one hundred yards. Eleven carries hundred and eight What kidding. 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 4: This isn't little league football, man, This isn't Pop Warner. 48 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: This is the NFL. Eleven carries one hundred and eight yards. 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: So now you know you have guys that in the 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: offensive line. Take about Dylan Fairchild, young guard take a 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: bow man, ran the ball well, ran behind him. 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 6: Some. 53 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: They ran in the interior between the guards and Senator 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 4: Ted Carriss multiple times. Riisener did a good job over 55 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: there at right guard. And they performed well. They really 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: did offensively. I think every single position group, every guy 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: in every single position group can take a bow. I 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: thought their performance was much better than normal, much better 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: than average, I should say. Defensively, it was up and down. 60 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: You know, I guess inconsistent might be a fear way 61 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: to put it. They showed up, you know, they were 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: ready to play. It wasn't like that when they had issues. 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 4: It wasn't due to lack of effort or lack of 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 4: emotion or you know, I don't think it was preparational, 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: though sometimes it looked like it out there. You know, 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: sometimes guys were i mean really open, big time open. 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: That should never happen at this level in the National 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: Football League, and Al Golden has to concern himself with that, 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: and I'm sure he didn't like it one bit. 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: David feels like this is almost the beginning of like 71 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 3: a third season within a season. You went through the 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: first phase with Joe and his injury and all the 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: emotions that came with it, and then Jake Browning in 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: the thought that okay, Jake can carry him for a while, 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: then his struggles, then the transition out to a third season, 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: which feels like there's a new juice and energy of 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: looking around going all right, for all we've been through, 78 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: if you look at the division, if you look at 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: the AFC, we're still in this thing, and we got 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: a quarterback we can ride right now for a while. 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: I agree. 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Joe Flacco Lance has been you know, 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: a huge shot of confidence in everybody's arm. You know, players, 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: head coach, coordinators, position coaches, everybody. Now they feel like, Okay, 85 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: we got a guy that's done this before we got 86 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: a guy that understands what it takes to do this. 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: And by doing this, I mean, you know, have a 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: winning record well above five hundred. Maybe it gets you 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: in as a wild card, maybe you win the division. 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: But the big, you know, the big prize, the big 91 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: banana course, is the super Bowl. If you can win 92 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: a playoff game and go to the division, win a 93 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: division playoff game, go to the conference championship game, and 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: then go to the super Bowl, that would be huge. 95 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 4: I mean, this team has been there three times, hasn't 96 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: won it yet. It would be ironic. I think if 97 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco comes to Cincinnati and uh, in less than 98 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: a week's time, you know, puts up a big victory. 99 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: I mean, this thing was huge. I mean you can't 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 4: overstate how big this victory was. Puts a big victory 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: victory against arch rival Pittsburgh Steelers. AFC North Division title 102 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: basically in the works on the way. 103 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 5: This game. 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: They'll look back on this game and it'll be like 105 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: a watershed game, you know. I think it'll be like 106 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: if in fact, they have the season they're hoping to 107 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: have and they finish well above five hundred and do 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: the things I already talked about this game will be Yep, 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: that Pittsburgh game. That was the one. I mean, shoot, 110 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: we signed Joe Flacco in less than a week's time. 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: He's out there, you know, running the whole offense and 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: understanding the complexities of that offense. And I think what 113 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: they did do I think the coaches actually take about 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: I think they made a fairly complex offense simple. You know, 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: they there's simple components in it, and I think they 116 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 4: emphasize those big. 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: Time stadium wise, places packed, white out, looked great on TV, 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: looked great in person that looked around and thought, not 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: many Steelers here. 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: I kind of like that. It was a Bengal crowd. 121 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: It was loud and it it enjoyed that on Monday 122 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: or on Thursday night, it sure did. 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: I mean I thought that crowd was a huge factor 124 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: in the game. I mean they showed up loud and proud. 125 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 4: I mean they were ready to celebrate, and you know 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 4: they I think they were curious as to this quarterback 127 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 4: Joe Flackhamam. And we know we know about him. We 128 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: played against him and we've had mixed success. He's had 129 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: more success than we have. Uh, let's see what he 130 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: can do for us against the UH, the hated but 131 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: respected Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin. 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 7: UH. 133 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: And he went out there and UH and did his thing. 134 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: I'll tell you he threw the ball exceedingly well I 135 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: thought he did. The ball came out of his hand 136 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: very quickly. He made unbelievably quick reads. He was sure 137 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 4: of his reads, very confident in what he was looking at, 138 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: and confident in himself, and got the ball out of 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: his hand quickly with velocity RPMs on that bad boy, 140 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: very active down the field twenty five thirty yards, you know, 141 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 4: hitting the receiver's left shoulder when he had to, right 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: hip when he had to, whatever the case may be. 143 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: He was putting it in very very small spots. 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: He was. 145 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: He was pinpointing the ball down the football field with 146 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: the accuracy that he has. He's a very talented thrower 147 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: passer of the football. There is no question about that. 148 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: A couple of forty something quarterbacks doing their thing on 149 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: a national stage, and even down to the final play 150 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: when Rogers rolls out. Everything to me went like slow motion, 151 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: like I've seen Rogers do this before, and this Hail 152 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: Murray has worked before. And as the ball is going 153 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: through the air. Everything just kind of slow down in 154 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: your watch. Somebody bat that baby down and they did 155 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: and they they hang on and win again. 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, it was like super slow mo. You know that. 157 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, is he going to do 158 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: it again? Because he's done it. He's done it before, 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: that's for sure. Like you've said, I mean, he's he's 160 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: unkenny how he can get that that done? But he 161 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: played He played a really solid game too. I mean, 162 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: like you said, two guys forty years old, forty years 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: old or more, putting up the numbers that they did, 164 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: the way they did it, how they played the game, 165 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: how they led, how they led their teammates. And you know, 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: both of them take a bow, but Joe flaccall can 167 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: take a bigger bow. 168 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: You you touched on it, and let's touch on in 169 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: the next segment. Some credit for Zach and Dan Pitcher 170 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: and Justin Roscotti getting Joe Flacco up to speed, getting 171 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: him ready, figuring out what he likes, and also Duke 172 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: Tobin who winds up flipping a fifth round pick for 173 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: a sixth round pick and brings in Joe Flacco. And look, 174 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: there's no secret, Mike Tomlin made his thoughts very clear 175 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: last week, like what are the Browns doing? 176 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: Why? 177 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: Why are the Cleveland Browns giving the Beggals Joe Flacco? 178 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: And when we saw why, he was a little bit 179 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: worried about that. Let's talk about some credit due as 180 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 3: we continue. He's Dave Lappaman, Glance Cas Bengals on and 181 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: the Bengals Radio networking seven hundred WLW walking back to 182 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: the Bengals line on the Bengals Radio Network in seven 183 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: hundred WLW Lions but Cantleister Dave Blapham, working our way 184 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 3: through three big hours of all things Bengals conversation. We'll 185 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: get into the Jets this weekend's opponent a little bit 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: later on in the show as well. Dave, you touched 187 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: on credit in the first segment, and let's expand that. 188 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: Let's first go big picture Duke Tobin. And there's a 189 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: great piece of Monday Morning Quarterback by Albert Breer of 190 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: how the Bengals after the Detroit loss had started looking 191 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: at quarterbacks and initially had a list of ten, and 192 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: they narrowed it down and they were looking for somebody 193 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: who was going to be a quick study, who could 194 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: work in their offense. Who knew the division, and Duke 195 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: Tobin pulls the trigger and Trey It flips a fifth 196 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: round pick for a sixth round pick to get Joe Flacco. 197 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: It looks like a genius move right now, but Flacco, 198 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that they're among anybody else. 199 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: They would have considered anybody who could have as smoothly 200 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: slid in on a short week when he arrived and 201 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 3: then done the quick turnaround to the DIVISI rival and 202 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: the Steelers and get it downe like Joe Flacco got 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 3: it done. 204 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: I agree with you. I mean, I think I think 205 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. Obviously he's been around, he's he's got a 206 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: bunch of years uh service in the National Football League, 207 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: and he's played very very good football. I mean the guy, 208 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: uh you know, m v P type football and in 209 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: some instances, so he's a he's a guy that that 210 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: understands the game of football and he can assimilate offenses quickly. 211 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: And that's what they were looking for. Duke Tobin and 212 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: his scouting department, they you know, put a laundry list 213 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: of requirements together and obviously that was first and foremost. 214 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: We need somebody to get up to speed. Quickly because 215 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 4: we want somebody now, uh, Jake Browning, we gave the 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: opportunity to and then he he kind of you know, 217 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: did not perform to the level of expectation and unfortunately, 218 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: you know, kind of just spit the bit, gave it up, 219 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 4: gave up the the opportunity that he was afforded, and 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: somebody to step in right away. And for him to 221 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: be able to do it as quickly as he did 222 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: is remarkable. It really is. It's truly remarkable. I think 223 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: credit should go to Zach, should go to Dan Pitcher, 224 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: should go to you know, all the offensive coaches teammates 225 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: for you know, making life easier for him. 226 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 5: He does. 227 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: He let's face it, he's got the the the plus 228 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: coming to Cincinnati of throwing the football to like a 229 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: dynamic trio of receivers, not just a receiver, but multiples, 230 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: you know. And I think also, uh give a lot 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: of credit to his wife for the help that she 232 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: gave him. 233 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: You know. 234 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: I mean, here he is driving down from Cleveland. They 235 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: get him a car and a driver and to his 236 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: wife or a backseat whatever seat they're in, and they're 237 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 4: just she's grilling, she's grilling about the Cincinnati Bengals offense. 238 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: I'll give you a formation, you give me the play. 239 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: I'll give you a play, Give me the formation, give 240 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: me any nuances with the play, you know, if there's 241 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: any motion or change the strength or whatever the case 242 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: may be. For him to do what he did in 243 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: such a short period of time, it took him a 244 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 4: little while, you know, to to you know, crank it up, 245 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: get the juices flow and get the blood flowing a 246 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: little bit. But when he did, man, he really was magnificent. 247 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: I love the fact that even he said on Thursday night, 248 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: there's still some plays that he didn't quite get all 249 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: of from Zach and the headset or was talking about 250 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: Zach's Zach was joking about his own Oklahoma accent and 251 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: how it wasn't quite getting to him. And he went 252 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: to the line and he said, they made it work, 253 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: and they laughed as they went to the sidelines. 254 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: The number of times. 255 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: Maybe the full play wasn't there, the formation was quite right, 256 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: but a veteran he is, they still were able to 257 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: make it work. There was no panic, there was no 258 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: you know, time out, I need to figure this out. 259 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: They just figured it out on the fly, and that's 260 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 3: what a veteran does right. 261 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: And the plays that ended in the letter F we're 262 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: the ones that were a problem. Like Flaco couldn't he 263 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: couldn't hear it. He couldn't understand what what is the word? 264 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: So is this a code game or something? 265 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 5: What are we doing here? This is I don't have 266 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 5: time for this. 267 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 4: I need I need to break the huddle and get 268 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmer so I can have some 269 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: time with the line of scrimmage and need to check 270 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: the play and check. 271 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: From one to another. 272 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: So when you when you factor all that in, it 273 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: really is it's a it's a it's a great story. 274 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: It's probably one of the Alvin Preer would probably agree 275 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: it's one of the better stories in the National Football 276 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 4: League right now. 277 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And to think of the quick turnaround and the 278 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: results from it, and just you know, you gotta you 279 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: gotta trust your coach, and your coaches have to know 280 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: what it's that classic, figure out what he likes, what 281 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: he doesn't like, throw out some of the stuff, let's 282 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: maybe massage some of the stuff. And it looks like 283 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: he's comfortable. He's you know, when you operate at the 284 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: level he did on Thursday, night on eight days rest 285 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: or eight days in the system, you're doing. 286 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: Something absolutely and uh, you know, the coaches they have 287 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: to have a respect for his football IQ, his football mind, 288 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: his football intelligence, and even if he's only got like 289 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: parts of it and he's missing like a little component, 290 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: figure it out and get it, get it put together. 291 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: You played a lot of football. We trust you, you know, 292 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 4: and get it. Get that part of it done. But 293 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: I think the other thing, the big thing that he 294 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: gives his teammates is hope, you know. And now all 295 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: of a sudden, everybody's you know, before the game watching 296 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: him warm up, They're like. 297 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: WHOA, looks pretty good man. 298 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 4: This might this might work out, This might be this 299 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: might be a lot of fun. And then what he 300 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: did during the course of the game and the adjustments 301 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: he had to make, and the adversity he had to 302 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: overcome and just kept overcoming it again and again and again. Uh, 303 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: and putting points up on the board. I mean, that's 304 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: you know, to put thirty on the board is that's 305 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: that's extraordinary. So now you come in the locker room, 306 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: you're filing off the field and. 307 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 5: Was saying, man flackah song becomes a real deal. Man. 308 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: He's legit. Joe Flacco is the man. And now he 309 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: has a presence in that locker room. When you when 310 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: you walked into that locker room after the game, you 311 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 4: could feel that you could feel him taking over a 312 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: very prominent position and role in that football team, not 313 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: only as a player, but as a leader. And you know, 314 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: he's been a captain. He has got leadership. He's according 315 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: to players and coach that I've talked to, he's just 316 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: a good dude. 317 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: I mean, he. 318 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: Doesn't have a you know, like a malicious bone in 319 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: his body kind of thing. You know, he wants everybody 320 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: to do well. He wants everybody to succeed. He wants to, 321 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: you know, sing around the campfire little Kumbaya Dave. 322 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: He also seems good at doing something as simple as 323 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: bailing on a play when it's not there. He'll throw 324 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: it into the ground and throw it out of bounds. 325 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: He sees it, recognizes it quickly enough to say it's 326 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: not there initially. I'm not going to extend this play 327 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: and create the potential for a turnover. I'm going to 328 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: live to play another down. Let's go next down, bingo. 329 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: I agree with one hundred percent LANs. I mean, you 330 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: know football, You've watched a lot of it. He does 331 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: not put the ball in jeopardy. It's like, you know, 332 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: if this is close, throwing it away or I'm gonna 333 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: put it in a spot that's going to be difficult 334 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: for my receiver to make a play on it. 335 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: But he's the only one that can make a difficult 336 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: play on it, you know. And uh and and and 337 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: I think the other thing is, like you said, man 338 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: does he make quick decisions. I mean, he scans that 339 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: field and knows what he's looking at. And you know 340 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: they start in cover two and then rotate to cover one, 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: or you know they'll play cover three or man across 342 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: the board, whatever the case may be. He is on 343 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: it like now, is no no wasted time whatsoever. And 344 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: and that's a that's a big, big plus. And I 345 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: think that part of his game. I think that And 346 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: then watching him when his teammates watched him throw the football, 347 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: their confidence and Joe Flaco just went through the roof. 348 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: All right, hang tight, we're up and running. We've got 349 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: plenty of ground to cover. We talked about Joe Flacco 350 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: throwing the ball. Let's talk about that running game that 351 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: newly covered running game and the gaping holes in which 352 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: Chase Brown and company ran through that. As we continue, 353 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: he's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance, but Calister, thanks for being 354 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: with us tonight. It's Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio 355 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: Network and seven hundred WLW. Let's keep it moving along 356 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: on this Monday night, a Bengals Line on the Bengals 357 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Looking back at that 358 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: big Thursday night went over the Pittsburgh Steelers thirty three 359 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: thirty one. Well, eventually look ahead of the windless Jets 360 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: this weekend. We'll get to that coming up at hour 361 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: number three. But let's get to in this hour the 362 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: Bengals running game. Twenty three totes of the football for 363 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty two yards. That's an average of 364 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: six point two yards of carry. Chase Brown eleven carries 365 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: one and eight yards, a nine point eight yards per 366 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: carry average. And there were moments he was galloping through 367 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: holes day it was fun to see. On Thursday night, 368 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: he was, I mean, when you average almost the first 369 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: down every time you run the football, and that's what 370 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: uh Chase Brown did, That's that's ridiculous. I mean that's 371 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: almost stupid at any level. But against the Pittsburgh Steelers 372 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: and Mike Tomlin, who are known for having a vaunted 373 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: run defense, I mean, they're not gonna They're gonna give 374 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: up uh rush yards grudgingly. It's not gonna be a 375 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: cake walk when you go out there against the Pittsburgh 376 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: Steelers and the Bengals. Just man, they hit them right. 377 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 3: They they changed up. 378 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: Uh, they had a lot of different blocking schematics in 379 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: that run game. You know, they had to just come 380 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage and knock people off the football, 381 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 4: which is which is great. And and once they started 382 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: doing that and anchoring the Pittsburgh Steelers, then they had 383 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: you know, down block, down, block, pull a gap scheme. 384 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: That's what the gap scheme is. Basically, Uh, block down 385 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 4: and and and pull around and find finding somebody would 386 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: stick a hat on as that puller. They did a 387 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: good job of that. They ran some naked mean, Joe 388 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: Flacco had a big carry that was a very important 389 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: play in the football game, and he was he was 390 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: almost laughing as hard he could barely describe the player 391 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: in the locker room after the game. 392 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he may have summed it up 393 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: by saying he knew the formation was alright. 394 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: He said, screw it, I'll take it. Yeah, it goes 395 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: for twelve yards. 396 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: I know that they know how they're supposed to block it, 397 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 4: so I'm going to trust the fact they're going to 398 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: block it. 399 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 5: Pretty well. Here I go. I mean, that's that's when 400 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: you know it's going right. 401 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: Though. You know, sometimes some games it's like, man, I mean, 402 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: we can't screw up. Even if we try to screw 403 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: it up. You know, it's like it's impossible. 404 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 3: Today and so many it was so nice to see 405 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: Chase Brown be able to get up ahead of steam 406 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: so many carries this year he'd been hit now at 407 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: the lot of scrimmage, he'd been hitting the backfield on 408 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: the handoff and and it kind of reminds you of 409 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: what they saw on him, especially last year when he 410 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: went through like a six or seven game stretch with 411 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: over one hundred total yards in offense. He was catching it, 412 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: he was running it, but he was able to have 413 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: a little bit of space to do that. 414 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: And that space was there Thursday. 415 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 5: Nay, it was, it was. 416 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 4: It was you know, sometimes it was due to outstanding blocking. 417 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: I think sometimes it was maybe a little bit of 418 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: an assignment era a misalignment by the Pittsburgh Steelers or 419 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: hitting a wrong gap two guys in one gap and 420 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: then one gap just totally exposed and wide open. But 421 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: credit the Bengals, they found it, you know. And the 422 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 4: Chase Brown, like you said last, when he gets up 423 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: ahead of steam, the dude is an automatic. Yards after contact, 424 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: he's going to pick up something. It might only be 425 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: a yard or two, but that's a tough yard or 426 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: two that you don't have to worry about. 427 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: You know. 428 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: And offensive linemen love running backs to do that, to 429 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: lower their pad level and just run people over and 430 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: get yards after catch. I mean block for Pete Johnson, 431 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: he was bigger than us for crying out loud, but 432 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: that guy would flatten people and run him over and 433 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: get yards after contact. And Chase Brown, the thing that 434 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: he has, he has the ability to power in the 435 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: in the power running attack. He has the power to 436 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 4: do that. But then he'll make you miss and he'll 437 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: run away from you. So I mean this guy, you 438 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: get him in space defenders defensive backs in particular, like, 439 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 4: I better come up and get myself ready here. This 440 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: guy's the lord. I get a brace for it, and 441 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: then he'll make him look stilly, He'll make him miss. 442 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: So Chase Brown is a very talented guy. Plus the 443 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: fact that you know he'll I love there's a form alignment. 444 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: Love to watch this dude and blitz pick up. He 445 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: is stoning people now, he's sticking his face right in 446 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: there and stopping linebackers in their tracks when they're coming downhill, 447 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: trying to blitz that. That's significant. Then he gets out 448 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: of the backfield. You know, they have a good screen 449 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: game with him, screen passes on the passing attack and 450 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: Flacco utilize that. And then just having him as a 451 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 4: as an outlet a check down in the passing game 452 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: when they took away things down the football field, let 453 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 4: me get it Chase Brown and and generate some yards. 454 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: They went into the. 455 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 3: Game averaging I think fifty six yards per game rushing 456 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: just fifty six a game. They were the only team 457 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: in the NFL that didn't have a run of at 458 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: least fifteen yards until Thursday night. 459 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: What does it mean? 460 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: And nobody expects them to go for one forty two 461 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: every game or average six per care every game. But 462 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: if they've unlock something, if they can rush for four 463 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: yards a little tick over four yards per carrier. What 464 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: does it mean for that offense? And what does it 465 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: mean for how defenses are going to have to respect 466 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: that element of the game that's now been reintroduced to 467 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: their offense. 468 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: I think that the successful teams in the NFL, I mean, 469 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: you look at the ones that always seem to be there, 470 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles, you know, being one a real good example 471 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: of it. They first and foremost want to run the 472 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: football every single week. They want to establish their ground game. 473 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: They wanted to say, we're going to win the line 474 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: of scrimmage. We're going to basically show our physical dominance 475 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: by knocking you around and winning the line of scrimmage, 476 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 4: and then okay, try to rush the pass on us. 477 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: We're going to be a stone wall. We're gonna be 478 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 4: a fortress that you can't penetrate whatsoever. So that that's 479 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: kind of like the formula when the Steelers were great, 480 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: that's what they did. 481 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 5: I mean, they ran the heck out of the football. 482 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: Frank O'harris, Rocky Blyerlas, you have the bus, I mean, 483 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: and then and then just you know, built the fortress 484 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 4: and said, you know what, you're not gonna touch Ben Roethlisberger. 485 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: I mean, Ben's gonna be able to stand back there 486 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: and Survey. I mean I used to go nuts thinking, gosh, 487 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: somebody smack him, for God's sake. Don't let them sit there, 488 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 4: and you know, survey one side to the other side, deep, 489 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: shallow deep again. It's like, God, man, he's got a 490 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: day and a half too much time to throw the 491 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: football at all. 492 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: Starts with that sound running game. 493 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: What does it mean to and I there was a 494 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: clip on the sidelines and I think ted Carris was 495 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: miked up, and late in the game, when the final 496 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: play had had fallen in completely it's over. Teddy stands 497 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: up and you hear him let out this just scream 498 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: of joy and delight. And and I was thinking what 499 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: it must have meant for that offensive line to feel 500 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: like they had kind of imposed their will to rush 501 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 3: for one hundred and forty two on the ground. What 502 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: does that mean as you're going back to the huddle 503 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: and things, you're clicking and and you're reeling off six 504 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: yards per carry like they were. 505 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I can't explain the feeling. I mean, it 506 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 4: gives you such a such an unbelievable feeling of accomplishment, 507 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: you know, and it's an accomplishment by the group. And 508 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: with offensive line, I've talked about this many times as 509 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: a form alignment. It's like it's a fraternity. I mean, 510 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: it's a it's it's a very very close knit. I 511 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: think it's the most close knit position group on the 512 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 4: football team because you're codependent everybody the success. 513 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 5: Of your even your play. 514 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: A lot of times there are snaps where you have 515 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: to have proper help or you're going to look bad. 516 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: And uh, and it can happen. It does happen, there's 517 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: no question about it. But you know, uh, when when 518 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: the offensive line is performing well and everything's in sync, uh, 519 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: it's just it's it's a thing of beauty to watch. 520 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like there are five spokes in the 521 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: wheel and every single spoke is doing exactly and holding 522 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 4: up strong and doing exactly you know what it's supposed 523 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: to do, and there's no broken spokes and there's no 524 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: you know, problem area in the offensive line. It's like, man, 525 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 4: we can't we can't go over there because we know 526 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: that we can't handle the opposition over there. They're dominating us. 527 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 4: But I think I think Ted was just kind of 528 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: uh he was exalting emotion from the entire group. Yes, 529 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: you know, like a like a tar san type Uh, 530 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: you know. 531 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: Uh. 532 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: Victory victory scream by Ted carras no doubt, no doubt. 533 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: All right, let's take a time out of come back. 534 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: We are up and running towards three hours tonight. When 535 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: we're ultimately done talking all things Bengals, let's get into 536 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: the defense. Some of the things that have gone right 537 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: with some of the things that need to be worked on, 538 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: and some of the guys they're they're getting looks at, 539 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: and some of the guys like Cam Taylor brid who 540 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: was on the outside looking in on Thursday. We'll sort 541 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: through the defense as we continue. He's Dave Lapham, I'm 542 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: Lance Pacallister. Thanks for being with us tonight. It's Bengals 543 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: Line and the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. 544 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: We continue on in this Monday night. 545 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: It's Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network. Thanks for 546 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: tagging along with us talking about a big one over 547 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers. 548 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm Lance Pacallister. 549 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: Alongside is Dave lap When we've talked to offense Joe 550 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: Flacco in a little bit of that running game. We'll 551 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: get into Jamar Chase in his night a little bit 552 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: later on, and so much more on the offense. Let's 553 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: pick up some stuff on the defense first. The two 554 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: turnovers forced, Jordan Battle gets an interception. DJ Turner for 555 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: the second straight week. We're gonna talk about DJ Turner 556 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: in terms of making plays and Dave on a defense 557 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: that needs guys beyond Trey, they need other playmakers. DJ 558 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 3: Turner for two straight weeks has been a guy. He's 559 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: made plays. 560 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Lance, you're right on again. You know what you're 561 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: looking at, my man? I mean DJ Turner is the 562 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: guy in the back end that it's making some wild plays, 563 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 4: you know. I mean you have to have playmakers at 564 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: every level. With your defensive line. You got Trey Hunters 565 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: coming off the edge, you know, creating havoc, wrecking games. 566 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: You know, just a consistently profound pass rusher. 567 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 568 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: You have to double and triple team the guy. And 569 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: then when you do that, other guys are gonna eat 570 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: because you know they're in one on one situations and 571 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: and they're gonna win their share of those. At the 572 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: linebacker level, you've got you know, solid play by a 573 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: bunch of guys, a lot of young guys at that 574 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: linebacker level that can really run, physically gifted, they've got 575 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: size speed ratio pluses. And Uh, Logan Wilson has kind 576 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: of made his sacrifice, and you know, things didn't go 577 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: well for him. Uh, it was decided that Al Golden 578 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: decided that he was gonna go in a different direction. 579 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: And but but what Al Golden did is, Okay, you're 580 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: you're still gonna contribute, Logan, And you're gonna contribute. And 581 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 4: when we go three linebackers, when we go three four, 582 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 4: three four, you're gonna be a big part of what 583 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: we're doing out there. When we go five to, you're 584 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 4: gonna be over there with me and helping maybe determine 585 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: what we need to do, adjustice, we need to bake, 586 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: and things of that nature. Logan Wilson has immense brilliant 587 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: football IQ. He's been around, he's been around the block. 588 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: He knows what he's looking at and he can still 589 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: play the game. So I and then again, you know, 590 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 4: you get in the back end, you get a guy 591 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: who turners just saying I'm gonna I'm gonna take control 592 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: of this football game. I'm not gonna let anybody beat me. 593 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: Nobody is gonna beat me one on one. I'm gonna 594 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: do my job. I'm gonna take my guy out of 595 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: the equation. There's no way that Aaron Rodgers is gonna 596 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 4: throw to my guy and my my I'm taking away 597 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: my portion of the field. And then uh, he's he's 598 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: the best tackle that they have in space in the 599 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: secondary by far. I mean, the guy is just a 600 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: machine getting guys on the ground. He doesn't miss many tackles. 601 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: And then when he makes it a tackle and causes 602 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: a turnover, that's you know, that's cherry on top of 603 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: the hot fudge Sunday man. You know, it's like that's 604 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: he's playing his tailoff in every every way that you 605 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: can play defensive football to impact the game for his team. 606 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: Turner's doing it. 607 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: David in the athleticism he showed on the sideline interception 608 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: where he ripped it away and he got some help 609 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: from you give Geno Stone credit for the. 610 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: Smack as well. 611 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: I think that maybe loosened it up a little bit 612 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: for the rip away, which you know, Gino gets criticism 613 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: and slings an arrows sometimes, but he was in on 614 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: that play in the right spot. But DJ Turner's closing 615 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: speed and the ability to rip it away along the 616 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: sidelines and stay in bounds. That that was a flash 617 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: of a really nice skill set. 618 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Like you say, a skill set that's just an athlete, 619 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: particularly an athlete that's wearing shoulder pads and helmet, you know, 620 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 4: a football athlete. Things that you have to have in 621 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: order to be uber successful in the game of football. 622 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: Turner has an abundance. He has an abundance of them, 623 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: both mentally and physically. He's gifted to play this game 624 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: at a very high level. The Bengals did a good job, 625 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: you know, unearthing him and bringing him to the to 626 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: the table to make his contributions to the Cincinnati Bengals, 627 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: and he he had one of his better games of 628 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: his career in a timely fashion against a division opponent 629 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: that was a very important football game. 630 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned Logan Wilson, and there's there's a couple of 631 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: ways something can go when you're at this stage of 632 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: your career and and you're told you're not going to 633 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: get the snaps you were getting. We're gonna get younger 634 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: guys in to get more snaps you. You can pack 635 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: it in, you can pout, you can sulk, you can 636 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: say trade me, release me, or whatever, or you can adjust. 637 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: And it looks like he's adjusted. He made a play 638 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: when he was in there. The Pro Football Focus great 639 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: say the plays he was in he he graded well. 640 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: So that tells me he understands. 641 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: I'm I can still be useful for this team and 642 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: I can still make my presence felt, and that's not 643 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: always the case with guys who lose the playing time. 644 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: Right on, Lance, you right on again, and Logan Wilson understands, 645 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: like you were talking about, I can I can be 646 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: a problem, or I can be a solution to a problem. 647 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: And I'd prefer to be the solution to the problem. 648 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: I'd rather help my teammates every way I possibly can, 649 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 4: both physically and mentally. I'd rather help my teammates get 650 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: ready to play at the highest level that they can 651 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: possibly play at. I'd love to see all my teammates, 652 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: you know, lead the team in tackles and and make 653 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: a lot of money. Because Logan Wilson is he's played 654 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: a long time, he's made money, and you know he 655 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 4: and his family are taken care of. But shoot, no problem, 656 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: no reason not to make more, and he's going to 657 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: do that in his leadership. I think his leadership is 658 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 4: is a big thing. I think during the course of 659 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 4: the game, when there's gonna be ebbs and flows and 660 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna have leads and you're gonna, you know, spit 661 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: the bit and give the leads up, and then do 662 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: you have the guts and determination wherewithal to continue to 663 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: play and get the lead back? And in the National 664 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: Football League, more games come down to one score or 665 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: less at the end of the football game than not. 666 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: So you have to have guys with the mindset and 667 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: the makeup of the mentality that Logan Wilson has displayed 668 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 4: during the course of his career with the Cincinnati Bengals 669 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: to win your share of those types of games. 670 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: I love the fact that in the media session last 671 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: week he more or less put his arm around Barrett 672 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: Carter with the media and said, whatever this guy needs, 673 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, I'm here for him, and you could, as 674 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: the more veteran guy, you can let him be on 675 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: their own and let them think, all right, I'm going 676 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: to let him fail and I'm going to get my 677 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: job back. Instead he's right there for him, passing on 678 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: his working knowledge, which is the essence of being a 679 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: professional player. 680 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 5: Right on, right on again. 681 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,239 Speaker 4: And you know, it's not easy to do sometimes, you know, 682 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: but it's how you can continue to have a career. 683 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: And maybe Logan Wilson might consider coaching, you know. I mean, 684 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: I don't know what his aspirations are after playing the 685 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 4: game of football. 686 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 5: I think he'd be a damn good coach. 687 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: I think he has that type of that type of personality, 688 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: that type of mentality, that type of mindset. He is 689 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: a very very intelligent football player. Like we've talked about. 690 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: The other thing that this shows is on both sides 691 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: of this. It's like, you know, Logan Wilson, he could 692 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: have been like, I'm too cool for school. This sucks. 693 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: I'm not going to help you a bit. I'm gonna 694 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: I hope you fall flat in your face, and I 695 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 4: might even try to do as much as I possibly 696 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: can to make sure you fall flat in your face. 697 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 4: Just the opposite, like you talked about how he's been 698 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: handling it, and then Barrett Carter, he respects Logan Wilson. Yeah, 699 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: he respects what he's done. So he's not going to 700 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: be like, you know what, Yeah, I'm the young buck. 701 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm better than you. I can kick your butt, man, 702 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: I can do whatever, you know, And I'm I'm gonna 703 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: be a Pro Bowl player. I'm gonna be you know, 704 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: no arrogance, no conceit, you know, none of those kind 705 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: of things. And I think once again you have to 706 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: give credit to Duke Tobin in the scouting department for 707 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: finding guys that aren't just good football players, but are 708 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 4: damn good people. 709 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: Hang tight, We've got more to get too as we 710 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 3: head down the stretch in our first of three hours tonight, 711 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: it's Bengals Line and we do it on the Bengals 712 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: Radio Network and right here on seven hundred WLW. 713 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: Down the stretch we are rolling till the. 714 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: Top of the hour in our first hour, about to 715 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: be put in the books of Bengals Line and the 716 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 3: Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and. 717 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: Lance Kettering Health. The Injury Report here we go, presented 718 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: by Kettering Healthy, official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals, 719 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: providing the best care for the best fans. The tight 720 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 4: end position got beaten up a little bit, Lance, I mean, 721 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: you know, Mike H. Sticky strand pulled, whatever the case 722 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 4: may be. We don't have all details the severity of 723 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: the poll of a pectoral muscle, which is up in 724 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 4: the check. You know, you have the pack, you have 725 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: the major and minor pectoral, and so that's that's good. 726 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 4: That's a tough injury because you can't put your hands 727 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: above your head, you know, to catch the football. You 728 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: can't block and finish and extend your arms. Depending on 729 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: this verity again of the pectoral injury. So he you know, 730 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 4: he may might be out a little bit. And uh, 731 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: now you have uh uh Hudson another tight end that's 732 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 4: got concussion. 733 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 5: He was in concussion protocol. So how long is that 734 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 5: going to be? 735 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 4: When will he be cleared? Will he be playing this week? 736 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 4: Well maybe not this week, but will he be playing 737 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 4: the following week? 738 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 5: I don't know. 739 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes concussions can be you know, dicey, They can be tricky. 740 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 4: It can be two three weeks or whatever. Uh, you know, 741 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 4: down the down the down the road. And then Trey Hendrickson, 742 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 4: your best pass rusher, has got a hip issue and 743 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 4: and let's face it, that's not an easy injury to 744 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 4: overcome and get back out on the football field and 745 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 4: knock heads with big you know, six foot five three 746 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: and twenty pound offensive tackles snap after snap. So they 747 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 4: do have their share of injury, not as bad as 748 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 4: some teams around the National Football League, but they're not 749 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 4: injury free as well. 750 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: That is one hour officially in the books. Man, We've 751 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: got so much more to get to hang with us. 752 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 3: We'll do it as we roll on with Bengals Line 753 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 3: on the Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. 754 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. 755 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: Pay Corps. 756 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Pay Corps is proud to be the official HR software 757 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering now best Care for 758 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: the Best Fans. Kettering el official healthcare provider of us 759 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WLW, the home of 760 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: the best Bengals coverage. 761 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: All right, here we go our two underway on a 762 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: Monday night. Bengals Line, Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. 763 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 3: Glance but now Lester Dave Lapham sorting through a big 764 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: Thursday night went over the Steelers. We'll look ahead to 765 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: the New York Jets as well, and let's look back 766 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: on what we saw on Thursday night, Dave a pleasant site. 767 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: They a Joe Burrow sighting, yes on the. 768 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: Sidelines walking around, uh, and I think it encouraged everybody. 769 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: He was off the little scooter thing he's been using. 770 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 3: Still a ways away, but reports from the NFL network 771 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: where things are going well. He's targeting mid December. Now, 772 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: there's a long way to go between now and then, 773 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: but it's a great sign to see Joe up and 774 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 3: walking around. 775 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think, honestly, Joe Flacco was glad to 776 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 4: see him. 777 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 3: You know. 778 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 5: I mean, what. 779 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: The world of quarterback position in the National Football Leagues 780 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 4: of fraternity, and it's a pretty small fraternity, and there's 781 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: a big level of respect there amongst these quarterbacks and 782 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 4: the talents that these quarterbacks do have, and every quarterback 783 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 4: knows exactly what the other quarterbacks going through, you know. 784 00:37:54,520 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: And so Joe Flacco, he I'm sure he is welcoming 785 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: any comments, any not criticisms, but any input. Yeah, good, 786 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 4: good word input that Joe Borrow may have in terms of, hey, 787 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 4: when you're running that play, when they call it again, 788 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: because we'll call it because we picked up twelve yards, 789 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 4: so they're going to call this thing again, this tight 790 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 4: end drag across man. Let them clear a little longer, 791 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 4: you know, and it'll it'll be a home run. It'll 792 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 4: go for even more yards. Or you know, when they're 793 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: in cover two pre snap, they're giving this little tell. 794 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: I see this tip that the strong safety is doing 795 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: before he drops down in the box, and you know, 796 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: and the free safety is rotating and you know to 797 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 4: cover one. And you might have seen it, Joe. If 798 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: you haven't, here's what I saw, you know, And I 799 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 4: just want to make sure that you know. If I'm 800 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 4: seeing things over here on the sideline, I want to 801 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: make sure that you're seeing them as well out in 802 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 4: the football field, because I want to do everything I 803 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 4: possibly can to help my football team win the football game, 804 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 4: because I can't do anything physically, so all I can 805 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 4: do is help from a from a metal standpoint. And 806 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 4: nobody has as good a mind for the game of football. 807 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 5: As Joe Burrow. 808 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 3: And there there is a The report was mid December. Again, 809 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: this is all who knows this will be. There's a 810 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: lot of hurdles to clear in the rehab and it's 811 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: got to keep going right and at least though mid December. 812 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 3: It causes me to at least look at the schedule. 813 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: I say, all right, there's six more games to get 814 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: to mid December. That's December fourteenth. If I account mid 815 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 3: is December fourteenth. Can this team hang around, stay in 816 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: contention and like build a bridge almost to Joe Burrow 817 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: and that that sure beats sitting at two and five 818 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: had you lost Thursday and having no bridge to build bingo. 819 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 4: It does, and what it gives the football team thinking that, wow, 820 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: the middle of December, we may have the best quarterback 821 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 4: in the National Football League back throwing to Jamar Chase 822 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: and T Higgins and I mean andre Yosi Vash and 823 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 4: hopefully Kasiki's back by then. And you know, Hudson and everybody, 824 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: we have all of our our arsenal, all of our weapons. 825 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: It gives us hope, man, and there's there's nothing better 826 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 4: than hope, you know, keep hope alive. And and that's 827 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 4: what that's what this will do. And it just it 828 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,479 Speaker 4: just gives the team probably feels a lot more whole. Yes, 829 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 4: when Joe Burrows on the sideline, be it in a 830 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 4: boot or whatever the case may be, uh supporting that 831 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 4: that injury that he's got. 832 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's it's all good. 833 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 4: There's no there's no negative whatsoever in any way, shape 834 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: or form about Joe Burrow being down that sideline. 835 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: I had heard, and this had bugged me for the 836 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. I don't think people understood what 837 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 3: Joe was going through. I had heard from a number 838 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 3: of people who said, why isn't Joe with the team, 839 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: Why isn't Joe helping it? And and one the initial 840 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 3: surgery left him on a scooter with with his leg 841 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 3: up on a pad. 842 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 5: Yep. 843 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: So one, you're not gonna you're not going to travel 844 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: with your scooter on a plane and deal with all 845 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: that and through the airports and everything else. You're not 846 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 3: gonna be on the sidelines on a scooter and open 847 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 3: yourself up at being immobile if a play comes out 848 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: of bounds and runs in. I mean, there were just 849 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: too many things that could go wrong. So I never 850 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: understood why anybody would want Joe based on everything he 851 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 3: was having to deal with with the scooter, why anybody 852 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 3: thought he should have been with the team at that point. 853 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 5: I agree. I agree with all of that. I mean 854 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 5: that physical part. 855 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 4: I mean it's hard for him to move around, hard 856 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 4: for him to, you know, travel with the apparatus, got 857 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: to pack it underneath the plane and you know everything else. 858 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 4: So it's not an easy chore. Plus the other thing is, 859 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 4: let's face it, broadcasters would be looking at, say, Joe 860 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: Flacco makes a poor decision that throws internship. Oh man, 861 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 4: look Joe Burrow sitting on that sideline looking. I wonder 862 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 4: what he's thinking. I wonder what's going through Joe Burrow's 863 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 4: mind right now when Joe Flacco throws that key interception 864 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 4: with two minutes to go in the first half, boy 865 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: oh boy, and all of that can't that big can 866 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 4: of worms gets opened up, and you know it's it's 867 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 4: tough enough for Joe Flacco in a short period of 868 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 4: time to get ready to play to the level that 869 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 4: he's played at US, never mind being compared to Joe 870 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: Burrow at his best, when he's potential MVP candidate in 871 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 4: the National Football League. 872 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 3: I'm and I've never gone through turf toe. I think 873 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 3: it would be interesting and fascinating to think if everything 874 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 3: starts at your base and your feet. I wonder how 875 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 3: much rehab, what what rehab is like for Joe or 876 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 3: if mid December is doable. It's not like you can 877 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: you can do any running conditioning and I don't know. 878 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 3: I guess you can sit there and throw a football. 879 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: But when everything starts at your feed and your toes, 880 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: it's got to make it tough. 881 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's brutal. 882 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 4: I mean, it's the it's the base of your foundation, 883 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 4: you know, and uh, all your weight gravity, and it 884 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 4: takes it takes it right down there. I did have 885 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 4: turf toe. Mine was caused by you know, on on 886 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 4: the goal line trying to block and get underneath people 887 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 4: and borrow under and banging shan my toe into the 888 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 4: the astra turf, the fake fake grass which had no padding. 889 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: I mean it was hardest rock and uh and. 890 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 4: Man, I'm telling you as alignment it was, it was 891 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 4: not as severe probably as Joe's, but it was painful. 892 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 4: I mean, there was definitely something there. It wasn't normal, 893 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 4: that's for sure. Man, telling you you just in your mind, 894 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 4: your mind is don't favorite, don't favorite, you know, treated equally, 895 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 4: treated just like the other one. But man, that pain 896 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 4: is like the pain's there for a reason. God invented 897 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: pain to let you know, dude, cut it out, don't 898 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 4: be stupid. Stop it, you know. So yeah, there's no 899 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 4: there's no magic wand that Joe Burrow can wave and 900 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 4: uh and and you know eliminate his his issue, his injury. 901 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 4: So he has to be has to be mindful of that. 902 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 4: And if you try to come back too quickly, which 903 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 4: I tried to do for practice standpoint, I tried to 904 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 4: come back a day earlier than I should have, jammed 905 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 4: that bad boy up, tweaked it and like, whoa man, 906 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 4: that put me back a little bit. And now you're 907 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 4: not only back, but you're worse. 908 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 6: You know. 909 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 4: You're like if there are steps leading down to the basement, 910 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 4: instead of four step down, you're the fifth step down, 911 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 4: you know. And it's like, oh, brother, why did I 912 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 4: do it? That was stupid? Why did I do that? Well, 913 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 4: you did it because you love your team, You love 914 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 4: your teammates. You want to do what you can to 915 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 4: help your coaches, you know, keep their jobs and win 916 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 4: as many football games as they can. 917 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 3: Final thought, as we hit the brake, if we were 918 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: looking at that December fourteenth return, potentially just as a 919 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: moving target, there'll be four games left in the regular 920 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 3: season that would include Baltimore at the Dolphins home to 921 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 3: the Cardinals and home to the brown So they'd be 922 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 3: thirteen games into the season with four games left. If, 923 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: in fact, Joe could hit a December fourteenth target. That's 924 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 3: a big if at this point, but it's certainly an 925 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 3: if that is worth at least considering and getting a 926 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 3: little excited about with the possibilities. 927 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you look at those That's not Murderer's role, 928 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 4: it's not. I mean Baltimore. Baltimore is struggling right now, 929 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 4: but you know Lamar Jackson's out. They have more guys 930 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 4: out than they have playing. Yes, if the Baltimore Ravens 931 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 4: roster there's playing now, it's. 932 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 5: Like, who are these guys? 933 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 4: You know, you need a who's who of football to 934 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 4: identify who the players are. They'll they'll probably all be 935 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 4: back and playing at a relatively high level. They'll probably 936 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 4: have been playing for at least a couple of weeks 937 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 4: before they match up against the Cincinnati Bengals. But man, 938 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 4: the other teams, if the Bengals can't beat them, they 939 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 4: don't deserve to be in the playoff hunt anyway. 940 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the name of the name of the game. 941 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 3: Well, when we come back, I've had a question ask 942 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 3: of me a lot that I'll ask you to you 943 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: and it's and we just went through what Joe Burrow 944 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: might be able to do to help Joe Flacco. I've 945 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: been asked a lot about does Joe Flacco. Can Joe 946 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 3: Burrow learn things from Joe Flacco? Flacco is the most 947 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: experienced quarterback that Joe's had with him on the team 948 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: at one time. Yeah, seen a lot, done a lot 949 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 3: things that maybe Joe could learn and see through Joe 950 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: Flacco's performance. Let's do a little bit of that and 951 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 3: more as we continue. It's Bengals Line on the Bengals 952 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 3: Radio Network and seven hundred W l W. Hey, We're 953 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: back on Bengals Line on this Monday night on the 954 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: Bengals Radio Network. In seven hundred WLW. Lance Pacallister hanging 955 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: out with Dave Lappham. 956 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 4: Lance Shop the Bengals Pro Shop find the best selection 957 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 4: of the Bengals merchandise anywhere. This is the Pro Shop, 958 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 4: seven days a week, located on the north side of 959 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 4: pay Court Stadium, a shop online at Bengals dot com. 960 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 3: So day we were talking about Joe Flacco, we were 961 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: talking about Joe Burrow. Joe Flacco clearly has the most 962 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 3: impressive resume, the most accomplished quarterback that Joe has played 963 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 3: with on this Bengals roster. He's never had a backup 964 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 3: or now obviously a starter in Flacco, who's done what 965 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco has done. 966 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: Is there are there things. 967 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 3: You And I'm always I'm always big on getting different perspective, 968 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 3: but a different a different way of looking at things 969 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: and fresh eyes and and I think it's good for 970 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 3: Joe now, especially now that he's with the team, to 971 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 3: see someone else do what he did and know that 972 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: it's done from somebody has accomplished is Joe Flacco. There's 973 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 3: got to be nuances or mannerisms or get tendencies. There's 974 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: got to be a variety of things that could be 975 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: there to be picked up on by Joe Burrow. 976 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would think there's ways that he can 977 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 4: tweak his game, you know. And good call by you. 978 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 4: You're a very intelligent man. I mean you you you 979 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 4: try to learn as much as you can every single day. 980 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I think the day that any of us 981 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 4: say absolutely, I don't want I don't want to even 982 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 4: hear anything anymore. I don't want to don't don't muddy 983 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 4: the waters. Man, don't cloud the issue. To me, I've 984 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 4: got to figure it out. That's the first day you're 985 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 4: on the way down, you know, that's the first day 986 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 4: you're you're closer to not retire, either retirement or getting fired, 987 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 4: you know, and people people moving on. And and I 988 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 4: do think that Joe Burrow does look at Joe Flacco 989 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 4: as somebody that, man, this guy's a great resource for me. 990 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 4: I love learning all I can about the game of football. 991 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 4: I'm a football savant. I want to know everything there 992 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 4: is to know about the game and how to play 993 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 4: the game, and how to play the game at the 994 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 4: highest level. And Joe Blaco has been an MVP, Joe 995 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 4: fat Flacco has won playoff games, you know, in neither 996 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 4: one of us have won the Super Bowl. Yet that's 997 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 4: our ultimate goal. If we collaborate and do things the 998 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 4: right way here, one plus one is going to equal three. 999 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 4: It just won't eat just won't equal two. You know, 1000 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 4: there'll be a synergistic effect here that will help the 1001 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 4: entire football team. 1002 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 3: And David, I wonder and their there are stark differences 1003 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 3: between the two in terms of what we talked about 1004 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 3: with Joe Flacco earlier. He will when the play isn't there, 1005 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: he won't try to make something of it. He moves on. 1006 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 3: Joe is different from the standpoint. Joe's very good at 1007 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 3: extending plays and trying to get that wide receiver. Ope, 1008 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 3: but at the last minute, maybe taking a hit sometimes 1009 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 3: it might lead an interception. I wonder if Joe sees 1010 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 3: a different way of maybe I don't always have to 1011 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 3: extend plays. Maybe there is something to be said for 1012 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: don't take the hit or don't risk the throw, just 1013 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 3: throw it away and move on to the next play. 1014 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with reevaluating you the 1015 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 4: way you look at your game, you know, uh, the 1016 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 4: way you look at the game of football as a whole. 1017 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 4: Let's face it, the way Joe Borrow has been doing 1018 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 4: it has led quite a bit of injury. I mean 1019 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 4: he's been he's been dinged up a lot. Uh and uh, 1020 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 4: you know, high school, he was just better than everybody 1021 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 4: physically better. Same same at the collegiate level, although you know, 1022 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,479 Speaker 4: they were physically much more unique at the collegiate level 1023 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 4: than at the high school level. And now you face 1024 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 4: the most unique, uh, physical specimens in the in the 1025 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 4: National Football League, So you know you're advancing and and uh, 1026 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 4: all it takes is one blow. 1027 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 5: One blow and you're out. Man. 1028 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 4: So you do you have to be judicious. You have 1029 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 4: to be, you know, really thoughtful in how you approach. 1030 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 4: How many hits do I want to take? 1031 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 5: Man? 1032 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 4: How much of a beating do I want to take? 1033 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 4: I want to win games. I want to win games 1034 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 4: for my teammates. I want to, you know, win division titles. 1035 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 4: I want to win conference championships. I want to win 1036 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 4: Super Bowls. But you have to do it judiciously. 1037 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 3: Another thought on on Joe Flah and this not tied 1038 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 3: specifically to Joe Burrow, but I think everybody in that 1039 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 3: locker room. I until he came here, My knowledge of 1040 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco was simply watching him play and hearing a 1041 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 3: SoundBite or two maybe every week. 1042 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 5: Right. 1043 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 3: The more I listen to Joe Flacco, the more impressive 1044 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 3: he is from just his big picture understanding and appreciation 1045 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: of things there. And I'm not saying he's like the 1046 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 3: adult in the room or the grandfather in the room, 1047 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 3: but he just sounds he sounds different than everybody else 1048 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 3: in this team because he maybe it's just because he's 1049 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 3: forty and live life longer than anybody else. I just 1050 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 3: find him very reflective and refreshing to hear. 1051 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's so experienced. 1052 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 4: You know, it's like there's not one dynamic in life 1053 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 4: that he hasn't gone through probably, you know. I mean 1054 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 4: it's whether it's his family, his football family, whatever the 1055 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 4: case may be. I mean, I do know in talking 1056 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 4: to him that the single most important thing to him 1057 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 4: is his wife and children. And he's got five kids 1058 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 4: and they're raising a beautiful family. He wants to make 1059 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,919 Speaker 4: sure that everything is done right in that regard, doesn't 1060 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 4: want to jeopardize anything with respect to that, but he 1061 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 4: does know that, you know, football is a good way 1062 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 4: to make their life a little bit better, a lot 1063 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 4: better really, And there's economics involved that he's done exceptionally 1064 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 4: well and he's going to continue to do well, and 1065 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 4: his team will, his team, his family will thrive as 1066 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 4: a result of that. So he is a very mature 1067 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 4: human being. I think he's even mature beyond his years. 1068 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 4: And Joe Flackell understands life, understands football life, and understands 1069 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 4: how they're related. 1070 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 3: I love the fact he was talking last week about 1071 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 3: once in his mind he knew he wanted to keep 1072 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 3: playing and made the commitment mentally to it. You know, 1073 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 3: things like taking care of your body or understanding situations 1074 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 3: and how each situation he's been in has helped in 1075 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 3: the next situation. And maybe it was a place he 1076 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: didn't necessarily want to be, maybe he didn't want to 1077 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 3: be the backup, but he used it as a learning 1078 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 3: experience to get to through it to the next thing. 1079 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 3: And this is the next thing, and it's it's like, 1080 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 3: I don't want to say the Fountain of Youth, but 1081 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 3: I would. There's a lot of juice behind this for 1082 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 3: him as well. 1083 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And how about this question, what tandem or duo 1084 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 4: of quarterbacks in the NFL is going to be better 1085 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 4: than Joe Burrow and Joe Flacco. When Joe Burrow is 1086 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 4: able to come back. Great Joe Flacco as a backup quarterback, 1087 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 4: I mean, he may be the best backup quarterback in 1088 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 4: the history of the National Football League, particularly if he play. 1089 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 4: I mean, he's playing very well right now. And as 1090 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 4: the weeks go by and he gets more and more 1091 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 4: familiar with the game plan on a repetition repetition preachs 1092 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 4: comfort level on a week by week basis, his level 1093 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 4: of play is going to increase. I mean, he will 1094 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 4: put up significant numbers. And I'm not saying that Joe 1095 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 4: Burrow won't get a starting job back, you know, but 1096 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 4: when he comes back, it's not gonna be a quarterback controversy. 1097 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna be. It's gonna be an embarrassment 1098 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 4: of riches at the quarterback position, is what it's gonna be. 1099 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 4: You're gonna have arguably the greatest quarterback in the NFL 1100 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 4: as a starter, and the greatest backup quarterback in the 1101 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 4: NFL is your backup quarterback. 1102 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: Can't beat that one too much. Perfect segue. 1103 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,839 Speaker 3: In our next segment, let's talk about perhaps the maybe 1104 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 3: not even perhaps maybe a given the best wide receiver 1105 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 3: in the game. 1106 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 5: What JR. 1107 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: Chase did on Thursday night. Holy cow. 1108 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 3: Let's give him some love and continue conversation along those 1109 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,760 Speaker 3: lines as we continue with Bengals Line on the Bengals 1110 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 3: Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back to 1111 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: Bengals Line of this Monday night of the Bengals Radio Network. 1112 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 3: In seven hundred WLW, we have sorted through Thursday night 1113 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh Steelers on both sides of the football 1114 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 3: got into Joe Flacco as well. Let's spend some time 1115 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 3: on Jamar Chase targeted twenty three times, twenty three targets, 1116 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 3: forty seven pass attempts by Joe Flaccoie hauls in sixteen 1117 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 3: of those for one hundred and sixty one yards in 1118 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 3: a touchdown, and man I by halftime started the third quarter, 1119 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 3: I thought sure he was gonna. 1120 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 2: Get twenty catches. 1121 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 3: They just kept going to him and going to him, 1122 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 3: and he just kept catching him. 1123 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 5: He's unbelievable. And what it showed me these kind of numbers. 1124 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 4: When you're targeted twenty three times, sixteen catches, one hundred 1125 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 4: sixty one yards and a touchdown, that is tiring. His 1126 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 4: physical conditioning is great, point incredible. It's remarkable to do 1127 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 4: that at the NFL level against you know, great physical specimens. 1128 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 4: These guys are jamming you, you know, pushing you around, 1129 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 4: trying to get you off course, double teaming you. You're 1130 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 4: going through contact, you're sprinting, you're running full speed, and 1131 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 4: then you're breaking it down. That That is tiring, going 1132 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 4: full speed and chopping it down to you know, and 1133 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 4: then making a cut up, you know, change in direction 1134 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 4: off of that. That is man mind boggling for him 1135 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 4: to be as fresh as he was in the fourth quarter. 1136 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 4: And I didn't notice any difference in him coming off 1137 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and how he was attacking defensive 1138 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 4: backs in quarter number one or quarter number four, I mean, 1139 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 4: or any time in between. He is something else. I mean, 1140 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 4: And then I was watching him. When are you gonna 1141 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 4: drink water? 1142 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 2: Dude? 1143 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 5: I mean, for crying out loud, what are you a machine? 1144 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 5: Or what are you? It's He'll take like a little 1145 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 5: simple water here and there. 1146 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,760 Speaker 4: You know. It is just it's unbelievable to watch him 1147 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 4: perform his craft. He is as good at what he 1148 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 4: does as anybody doing anything in the entire world. 1149 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 3: His his strength in the ability to create yards after 1150 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,360 Speaker 3: catch and break tackles. It is I mean, sometimes you 1151 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 3: think he's not even humid. He's like a robot. He 1152 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 3: just sheds people who it looks like he's wrapped up 1153 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 3: and he just breaks that. 1154 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 2: The strength is just off the charts. 1155 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 4: I'm a great point again, Lance, I'm wondering of the 1156 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty one yards, how many of those 1157 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 4: are yards after catch, yards after contact? A bunch, I mean, 1158 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 4: a good a good percentage I bet forty percent anyway 1159 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 4: that that that is, that's just remarkable and in the 1160 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 4: red zone because all the things you're talking about, how 1161 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 4: strong he is, how physically dominant he is, and the 1162 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 4: size speed ratio he has the best size speed ratio 1163 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 4: in the NFL. And you watch him in the weight 1164 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 4: room and you watch him power clean weight, you watch 1165 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 4: him deadlift weight, It's like, what the hell I mean 1166 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 4: he's stalling weights around that offensive and defensive lineman throw around, 1167 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase is just, you know, very casual, nonchalant 1168 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 4: about the whole thing. It's like, you know, hey, another 1169 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 4: day at the office. Here we go. I'm just trying 1170 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 4: to make myself better. And that that's the thing about 1171 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 4: him is he is the ultimate competitor, uber uber competitive. 1172 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 3: And David, I know he's still early in his career, 1173 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 3: and I'm not making this as a declaration, but when 1174 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 3: you think all that this franchise has seen from from 1175 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 3: Isaac Curtis to Chad Johnson to A. J. Green to 1176 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 3: to Carl Pickens and all their skill sets, I look 1177 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 3: at the combined skill set of Jamar Chase and I say, 1178 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 3: you guys are great. Yeah, the one package what Jamar 1179 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 3: is it's hard to comprehend. 1180 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 4: It's totally unique. Yes, I mean it's dynamic, is what 1181 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 4: he what it is. And I think all of those receivers. 1182 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 4: I've talked to Isaac Curtis about Jamar Chase, He's like, oh, man, dude, 1183 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 4: he's a freak. There's a freak as a way, you know, 1184 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 4: it's like his physical specimen. 1185 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 5: Man. 1186 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,959 Speaker 4: And uh, you know all of them feel that way. 1187 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 4: You know, it's that's universal and that uh that's a 1188 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 4: credit to Jamar Chase. And I think they also like 1189 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 4: the fact that he doesn't freelance, and he he doesn't 1190 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 4: you know, he's not interested in, you know, having his 1191 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 4: numbers be the story. He wants the store to be 1192 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 4: the team one. And then there's a subplot by the way, 1193 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 4: you know, I had sixteen catches one hundred sixty one 1194 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 4: yards in a touchdown. 1195 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 5: He didn't want it to be the other way around. 1196 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 4: And uh, yeah, he's he is the consummate professional of 1197 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 4: the consummate teammate. 1198 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 3: What I really loved on Thursday night and I'm I 1199 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 3: love taking what you're given, and that was there. They 1200 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 3: just kept going to it. Yeah, they kept it was 1201 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 3: successful and they kept going, and Joe Flacco targeted the 1202 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 3: two of them, chasing Higgins thirty seven thirty three times 1203 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 3: between the two of them. 1204 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 2: But he just kept going to Chase because it was. 1205 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 3: There, the advantage was there, and he was just rolling 1206 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 3: and there was no state. 1207 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: He just kept feeding him the ball. And I love that. Yeah, 1208 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: And why not if it's working, keep going to it exactly. 1209 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 5: And I can't I can't believe that. You know that 1210 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 5: they stayed in the coverage. 1211 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 4: They didn't said, you know, so Flacco Chase look at 1212 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 4: each other, gonna keep doing it. 1213 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 2: Here we go. 1214 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: Give you a tip of the cap, you know, a 1215 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 4: little a little non little bow or whatever. 1216 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1217 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 4: I mean, eventually they may come out of it, but 1218 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like they're in any hurry, that's for 1219 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 4: darn sure. And I think the running game was a 1220 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 4: factor in that as well. I feel like Tomlin felt 1221 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 4: like he had to do certain things and commit certain 1222 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 4: numbers of linebackers and safeties from a personnel standpoint to 1223 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 4: the running game because Chase Brown was so effective, and you. 1224 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 5: Know, that's what you want. Man. 1225 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 4: When you have a balanced attack like that, it makes 1226 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 4: it almost impossible for a defense to defend. You know, 1227 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 4: you don't want to be one dimensional. You want to 1228 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 4: be balanced, and the Bengals were the definition of it. 1229 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 2: Boy. 1230 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 3: I remember I laughed because Joe Flacco has mentioned in 1231 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks what he's learning about Higgins 1232 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 3: and Chase and just how darn good they are. And 1233 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 3: I think of Flacco's career, and he's had some okay 1234 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 3: receivers along the way, but I go back to Week 1235 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 3: one with the Browns where he had a couple of 1236 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 3: his passes the receivers bobbled and they turned into interceptions. 1237 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 3: And to think of where Flacco was at one point 1238 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 3: in his career to now being able to throw to 1239 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 3: Chase in Higgins. I mean, Joe Flacco's got to go 1240 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 3: home every night and tell his wife. 1241 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 2: You want I mean, this is heaven. 1242 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 4: I've got two of the best of the game catch 1243 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 4: of my passes exactly. I think he probably goes to 1244 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 4: Holmes Her and says, honey, now I know what football 1245 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 4: heaven is. You know the football gods. I know there 1246 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 4: are football gods now. I wasn't sure for a while, 1247 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: and I know there are now because they've they've really 1248 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 4: blessed me man and I have got a couple of 1249 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 4: studs that I'm able to compete with and throw the 1250 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 4: football to on a weekly basis, And man, it's like 1251 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 4: I just can't wait. I can't wait for the game plans. 1252 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 4: I got coaching staff that knows what the hell they're doing, 1253 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, Dan Pitcher, and I got receivers that can 1254 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 4: execute it. 1255 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 5: And man, I am in hog Heaven. 1256 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Take a time out of continue. Let's flip back to 1257 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 3: the defensive side of things, because I must. We must 1258 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 3: address why why is tackling so hard in the NFL 1259 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 3: these days? Why are there so many miss tackles. Let's 1260 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 3: get into that. We'll do an extensive study of tackling 1261 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 3: as we continue. It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio 1262 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Network in seven hundred WLW. Let's keep rolling right along 1263 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 3: and this Monday night, working our way through three hours 1264 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 3: of Bengals conversation and eventually into Jets conversation. The opponent 1265 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 3: on Sunday at pay Corpse Stadium, I'm alliance, Butacallister, he 1266 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 3: is Dave Lapham. We talked about the defense and the 1267 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 3: takeaways on Thursday night. There continues to be the thread 1268 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 3: of the issue of tackling. And it's not just the 1269 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 3: Bengals around it's amazing around the NFL how many misstackles 1270 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 3: there are. I haven't seen an official number from Thursday night, 1271 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,959 Speaker 3: there was a rather large number from. 1272 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 4: The week before. 1273 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 3: Why let me ask it this way, if you're a 1274 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 3: poor tackling team, how do you make Is there a 1275 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 3: way to make yourself a better tackling team. 1276 01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 4: I think that in today's football coaches, head coaches, coordinators, 1277 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 4: they're hesitant about doing routine tackling drills because of the 1278 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 4: possibility of injury. Yep, they are so scared that they're 1279 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 4: gonna lose, fearful of losing one of their star players, 1280 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 4: you know, in a routine tackling drill where it's like, 1281 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 4: I mean, I remember Paul Brown. We didn't hit all 1282 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 4: that much in practice until we did team work, and 1283 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 4: his whole thing was, I don't want to lose you know, 1284 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 4: Kenny Anderson and Isaac Curtis or Bob Trump or whatever 1285 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 4: in a you know, a stupid, you know, routine tackling drill. 1286 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 4: So there's I think there's that side of it. The 1287 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 4: other side of it is I just I just think 1288 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 4: that these offensive players are so damn good. I mean, 1289 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 4: the size speed ratio of these guys. These guys are 1290 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 4: big people that can really run and pack a hell 1291 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 4: of a punch. So they will they'll just they'll take contact. 1292 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 4: That's no big deal. 1293 01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 5: I can handle. 1294 01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 8: That. 1295 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 5: Is that all you get? Why don't you? 1296 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,479 Speaker 2: Why don't you try to try to try it again? 1297 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: You know, let's take another rep. 1298 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 4: And it's it's amazing to watch, even watching practice, the 1299 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 4: way these guys can run through tackles. 1300 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 5: And Chase Brown is a great example. 1301 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's five ten and twenty pounds, low 1302 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 4: center of gravity, and man, when he when he lowers 1303 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 4: his pads and finishes a run when they're doing like 1304 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 4: live goal line and short Yardie Wills, he's something else. 1305 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's he'll he'll. 1306 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 4: Pack a punch, there's a surge there, and then he's 1307 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 4: an excellent blitz pickup guy to stick his nose right 1308 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 4: in the chest of linebackers and you know, have a 1309 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 4: ben his knees, have a real low, low center of gravity, 1310 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 4: low body, good receiver out of the backfield catching the 1311 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 4: ball and then you know, breaking tackles there. It's it's crazy, 1312 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 4: you know, Uh, I just I just think that tackling 1313 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 4: form is terrible in the National Football League these days. 1314 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 4: I think it's a lost I think that they should 1315 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 4: go back to football fundamentals basically, and uh. 1316 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 3: And so much of a day, it seems today has 1317 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 3: become the idea of knocking the ball loose, you know, 1318 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 3: going for the football, which is is great in theory 1319 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 3: because everybody wants a turnover to get the ball back, right, 1320 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 3: but some of the time it's it's sacrificing yardage because 1321 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 3: you're not popping it loose and you're not making the 1322 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 3: tackle and wrapping the guy up. 1323 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, if everybody's going for the kill, hyes, everybody's also 1324 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 4: the big play. Yep, they're like, oh my god, look 1325 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 4: at that play. You know, and uh, if if in 1326 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 4: fact you can do that during the course of action, 1327 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 4: you know, as the play is finalizing and you and 1328 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 4: you can you can take a shot at the football, 1329 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 4: you know, probably smart to do. So You've got to 1330 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 4: make sure though that you're not the only guy. You're 1331 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 4: not in space one on one. There's got to be 1332 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 4: teammates around there that if you you know, if you 1333 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 4: if it doesn't work, you don't knock it loose, you 1334 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 4: don't jar the football out of there, somebody else is 1335 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 4: going to be there to clean up and get somebody 1336 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 4: on the ground. 1337 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 3: One other aspect of this defense and it'll help, hopefully 1338 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 3: if Trey's back this week. 1339 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 2: They've got to get pressure on the court. 1340 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 3: Watching Aaron Rodgers, there was there was a lot of 1341 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 3: three four and five Mississippis I was counting on Thursday 1342 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 3: night where he was free. I mean, I think the 1343 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 3: one officially he rolled out of the pocket and had 1344 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 3: nine point eight seconds to throw, and you could give me, 1345 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 3: if you give me nine point eight second, I might 1346 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 3: be able to complay to pass. In the NFL, it 1347 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 3: was maddening how little pressure they were able to get. 1348 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and trying to be I think what the defensive 1349 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 4: backs were thinking when they running round back. Can't imagine 1350 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 4: nine at ten secs, Like, come on boys, where are 1351 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 4: you guys? I mean, let's let's get the troops going here. 1352 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 4: How about getting after it a little bit. You can't 1353 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 4: cover receivers that long. They're two gifted, too talented in 1354 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 4: today's National Football League, So uh yeah, that that's something 1355 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 4: that needs to be addressed as well. The pass rush 1356 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 4: has not been what al golden wants, particularly when Trey 1357 01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 4: Henderson out of the mix. I mean it was was 1358 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 4: not what what you what you need, not what you 1359 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 4: have to have to win football games. 1360 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 5: And I don't think it's shocking. 1361 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 4: Everybody knows Train is the best pass rusher the Bengals 1362 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 4: have maybe the best in the National Football League. But 1363 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 4: without him, they looked very pedestrian. 1364 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you could understand a little Schamarz Stewart hadn't 1365 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 3: played in almost a month, four weeks at the ankle. 1366 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 3: But Miles Murphy, Joseph Osai, there's gotta it's gotta be. 1367 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 3: It always goes back to you can count on Trey 1368 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 3: when he's in there, You've got to have somebody else 1369 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 3: who's a presence to attract some attention and create some pressures. 1370 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean you can't have everybody up and down 1371 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 4: the defensive line like ooh almost, Oh you almost got him, 1372 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 4: you almost made that play. 1373 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 5: Nah, gotta have Oh. 1374 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 4: Look at that dude, finish, look at the hit that 1375 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 4: he put on him. 1376 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 5: And they have guys that can do it. 1377 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 4: I mean the guys you rotted off there, you know, Murphy, 1378 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 4: o Sai and everybody else. Those guys need to step up, 1379 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 4: and stud they need to step up now, not later now. 1380 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 2: When we come back. 1381 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 3: One other thing that jumped out on Thursday night was 1382 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 3: the number of explosive plays. This Bengals offense had a lot, 1383 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean big chunk plays, thirty seven, thirty seven and more. 1384 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 3: Let's talk about that and what it means for this offense. 1385 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 3: They've been able to produce those big plays. As we 1386 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 3: head down the stretch in our second hour tonight, it's 1387 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 3: Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, 1388 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 3: we're back at it on this Monday night, sorting through 1389 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 3: everything related to the Bengals from the way over the 1390 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers, looking ahead to the New York Jets coming 1391 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 3: up in our third hour tonight, and Dave, one thing 1392 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 3: that stood out on Thursday night if you look at 1393 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 3: the big plays, chunk plays even down to if you 1394 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 3: look at just plays to gain fifteen yards or more, 1395 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Bengals had ten of those on Thursday night. They had 1396 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,439 Speaker 3: thirty seven, thirty seven yards, twenty nine yards, twenty eight, 1397 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 3: twenty seven, twenty five. 1398 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 2: Eighteen, eighteen, sixteen, fifteen. 1399 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 3: That's the type of stuff, man, when your offense is, 1400 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 3: and you can get big plays and don't have to 1401 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 3: plod your way down the field with extended drives or 1402 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 3: things can go wrong. Those chunk plays are huge for 1403 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 3: this offense. 1404 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 4: They are I mean explosive plays, big plays are they 1405 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 4: They lift the spirits offensively and they absolutely crush and 1406 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 4: demoralize the defense. I mean, that was one thing that 1407 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 4: Paul Brown used to talk about all the time. Uh, 1408 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 4: you know, winning the turnover battle, winning third down winning, 1409 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 4: but winning the chunk plays. The big plays make more 1410 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 4: big plays than the opponent because they are the ones 1411 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 4: that are demoralizing. And uh, you know, if you've got 1412 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 4: players like we had Isaac Curtis, the guy could make 1413 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 4: a big play in his sleep. You know, Kenny Anderson 1414 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 4: to Isaac Curtis. I heard it over and over again 1415 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 4: many times. There it is Kenny Anderson, Isaac Curtis, big play, 1416 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,679 Speaker 4: Bengals lead, and Bengal's not gonna give the lead back. 1417 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 4: That's that's what you know. Joe Burrow has done with 1418 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase. But Joe Flacco is already finding out that 1419 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 4: he can do with Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins isn't 1420 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 4: a bad plan. B I mean He's a significant big 1421 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 4: playmaker himself, and his is a little bit his stature 1422 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 4: is a little bit different, a little bit taller, longer arms, 1423 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 4: can tested catch when he gets, when he goes up 1424 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 4: and fights for the football, that dude comes down with 1425 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 4: it a higher percent of the time than almost any 1426 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 4: receiver I've ever seen. 1427 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 5: He is remarkable. 1428 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 2: It is. 1429 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 3: It's amazing to look. In Week one against Cleveland, the 1430 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 3: Bengals had one play that gained at least fifteen yards 1431 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,639 Speaker 3: one Thursday night. 1432 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 2: They had ten. 1433 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 3: Against Denver, they only had two plays of fifteen yards. 1434 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 3: Against Minnesota, they only had three plays of fifteen yards. 1435 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 2: It just makes it. 1436 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,440 Speaker 3: I mean, there's something to be said for long, extended 1437 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 3: drives that killed time on the clock. You get the 1438 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 3: time of possession, wear a team down. But if you 1439 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 3: can strike with big plays chunk toss in chunk plays 1440 01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 3: along the way, it. 1441 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 2: Just makes it so much. I mean, from play caller 1442 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,759 Speaker 2: to quarterback and everybody else. 1443 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And you don't think Mike Tomlin was pulling 1444 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 4: his hair out by the roots and Pittsburgh gave up 1445 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 4: ten plays of fifteen years or more. That is so 1446 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 4: unlike a Mike Tomlin defensive football team, a Pittsburgh Steeler 1447 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 4: football team as well. I mean, I remember back in 1448 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 4: the day, boy, when we were playing the steel cartin 1449 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 4: at three River Stadium in Pittsburgh. In instance of home 1450 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 4: or away, it didn't matter. These guys brought it. Man 1451 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 4: and Joe Green Fats Homes, Ernie Fats Homes, Elsie Greenwood, 1452 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 4: Dwight White, Jack, Lambert Jack Ham, Andy Russell. I mean 1453 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 4: those Historically, the Rooney family has loved a defense and 1454 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 4: running game. They've always always had had that first and foremost. 1455 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 4: And then once you get the running game going and 1456 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 4: plays good solid defense, quarterback takes over and closes the 1457 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 4: game out. 1458 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 2: You know. 1459 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 3: A final thought on the segment, and you mentioned T, 1460 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 3: how about some credit to T and even Zach who 1461 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 3: kind of gave the heads up if the opportunity opened. 1462 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,919 Speaker 3: It was a big play. But T goes into the slide, 1463 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 3: forcing the Steelers to burn the clock and taking away 1464 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 3: seconds from Aaron Rodgers being on the field. 1465 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 5: What a heads up play, heads up, big time. 1466 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,879 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's just you know, high football IQ 1467 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,839 Speaker 4: by Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher. Not surprised there, obviously, 1468 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 4: they lecture their team on that type of thing, and 1469 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,719 Speaker 4: in that type of situation, particularly final two minutes, final minute, 1470 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 4: final thirty seconds of the half of a game. And 1471 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 4: T Higgins followed suit perfectly, and you know what, very unselfish. Yeah, 1472 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 4: I mean, he could have had an easy touchdown, but 1473 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 4: instead it's like, it's more important to me that we 1474 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 4: win the football game than I get that touchdown. 1475 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 3: Reception probably made some fantasy team owners unhappy. 1476 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 2: They'll have to live with you if you had t 1477 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 2: and your TV. You're thinking, I'm gonna score a touchdown. 1478 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, why you're doing what? I've lost my 1479 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,679 Speaker 2: I've lost my game because T Higgins went. 1480 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,520 Speaker 5: Into a slide. 1481 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 3: All right, we put two in the book, so when 1482 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 3: we turn into our number three. I don't know if 1483 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 3: anybody in this room is aware, but Sunday is is 1484 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 3: ring of honor. I might have to ask you about 1485 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 3: Lamar Parrish when we come back, and I might have 1486 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 3: to ask you about you at some point we come 1487 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 3: back and we do. Are you prepared to do all that? 1488 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:35,959 Speaker 3: I'm prepared for Lamorrow. He's Dave's Pacallister. It's a Bengals 1489 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,600 Speaker 3: line on the Bengals Radio network and seven hundred WLW. 1490 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 1: This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 1491 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 1492 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering ow best Care for 1493 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the Best Fans. Kettering El official healthcare provider of US 1494 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WL you the home 1495 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: of the best Bengals coverage. 1496 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 3: All right, here we go, third and final hour tonight. 1497 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 3: Time flies when you're having fun. We've had fun talking 1498 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 3: Bengals Steelers. We'll get into the Jets later on this 1499 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 3: hour and this weekend is gonna be fun at the 1500 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 3: Paved Corps for Bengals and Jets Ring of Honor induction. 1501 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 3: Lamara Parrish and my guy Dave Lapham. I'll get to 1502 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,640 Speaker 3: you in a second, sir. Let's get to Lamara Parrish. 1503 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: Tell me for if someone is listening right now who 1504 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 3: never got to see Lamara Parrish play, paint a picture. 1505 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Tell everybody about Lamar Parrish. 1506 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 4: Lamar Parish number twenty in year program for the Cincinnati Bengals, 1507 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 4: Number one in your heart. He was maybe the greatest 1508 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 4: athlete I've ever seen from on a football field. You 1509 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 4: see great athletes in basketball, you know, with the jumping 1510 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 4: ability and windmill dunks and you know, three sixty dunks 1511 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 4: and all that sort of thing. 1512 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 5: Lamar Parish could do all that. 1513 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 4: When we were playing Bengals basketball, he put on a 1514 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 4: dunk show, There's no question about that. In the offseason. 1515 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,240 Speaker 4: But this guy long hollered than the average cornerback, very 1516 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,639 Speaker 4: long arms, and he could he could cover ground. Boy, 1517 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,759 Speaker 4: he could close on a on a route so quickly 1518 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,839 Speaker 4: quarterback would think, yeah, I got got a little separation, 1519 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 4: got some disc I can fire that in there. Nope, 1520 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 4: and the balls in the air and all of a 1521 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 4: sudden the courts back, Damn, I shouldn't have thrown that one. 1522 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 4: And Lamar would make big plays, not just picking the 1523 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 4: ball off but returning it. 1524 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 5: No. 1525 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,960 Speaker 4: He I don't know what his average yards per interception 1526 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,600 Speaker 4: return might be, but I bet if they keep this 1527 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 4: stat in the Pro Football Hall of Fame or wherever, 1528 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 4: he's got to be in the top five in the league. 1529 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 4: I mean, he never just intercepted the ball and fell 1530 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 4: down on the ground, you know, or or let the 1531 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 4: guy tackle him. 1532 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 5: Lamar was strong. 1533 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 4: He was a very strong player, very physically gifted. And 1534 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 4: then that's not to even talk about yet his return abilities. 1535 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 4: I mean, as a point returner, kickoff returner, the best 1536 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 4: I've ever seen, bar none. I don't care. People can 1537 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 4: try to sell me on whoever else. You know, I 1538 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 4: know there were some great ones, but this guy who 1539 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 4: as a teammate, he just made so many big plays 1540 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,600 Speaker 4: for us in then. 1541 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy four, Dabe he led the league averaging 1542 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 3: eighteen point eight yards per punt return. 1543 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. That is sick, it really is. I mean, 1544 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 4: if you average, you know, ten yards less than that. Yes, 1545 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 4: a damn good Yes, yes you're talking about I mean that. 1546 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 4: See what they should do is take every punt return 1547 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,719 Speaker 4: from that year and put it in a little tape, 1548 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 4: send it to Canton and put it in the Hall 1549 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 4: of Fame and have people say, Okay, this is a 1550 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 4: punt returner, best example of a punt returner. 1551 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 5: This is Lamar Parrish. This is what he did. 1552 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 4: This is every return he had, you know, in nineteen 1553 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 4: seventy four for the Cincinnati Bengals. 1554 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 5: Take a look and see what you think. 1555 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Unbelievable and hard to fathom. 1556 01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 3: We're talking thirteen non offensive touchdowns in his career from 1557 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 3: kick returns. 1558 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 2: To punt returns, to fumble returns, the. 1559 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 3: Interception returns, thirteen touchdowns from a defensive player. 1560 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 4: Unbelievable, crazy, crazy, And I remember one time Paul Brown 1561 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 4: used him on to reverse because I mean, you know 1562 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 4: what not yeah, you get Isaac Curtis and put Lamar 1563 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 4: Parris in there. It's like whoa you know, I mean, 1564 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 4: Charlie Jordan is a great receiver, it just didn't have 1565 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 4: that kind of that kind of foot speed. But I 1566 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 4: mean Lamar Parris was a difference maker in every sense 1567 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 4: of the word at the at the cornerback position and 1568 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 4: tremendous versatility, could do a lot of things. He also 1569 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,719 Speaker 4: he played the run. People don't give him enough credit. 1570 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 4: I don't think for how he could tackle in space 1571 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 4: because he such an athlete. A lot of times, you know, 1572 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,479 Speaker 4: it's like you're looking back, would be in space and 1573 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 4: talented running back and it's like, oh it's Lamar. Were 1574 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 4: good went on and Lamar get him on the ground. 1575 01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 4: He was gifted and ten total team player. 1576 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,720 Speaker 5: He was special. Lamar Parrish A. 1577 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 3: Couple of things that point to won his athletic ability 1578 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 3: and to Paul Brown's eye for talent. He's a seventh 1579 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,280 Speaker 3: round draft pick out of Lincoln University in nineteen seventy 1580 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 3: had never played the cornerback position and goes on to 1581 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 3: do what he does, his ability to adjust to whatever, 1582 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 3: and Paul's eye for I think I'm gonna make him 1583 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 3: this it's I mean, that's Paul Brown, it is. 1584 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 4: And and Paul would part of his evaluation process was 1585 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 4: he would give, like I was, I was involved with 1586 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,719 Speaker 4: it when I was at Syracuse, give you a written test. 1587 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 4: And it was all kinds of stuff, all kinds of 1588 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 4: It was almost like a you know, an sat yeah 1589 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 4: type test, not anywhere near that long, you know, a 1590 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 4: lot shorter, fewer questions and all that sort of thing, 1591 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 4: but it was it was pretty expansive in terms of 1592 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:55,719 Speaker 4: you know, you know, history and math and whatever else English. 1593 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,759 Speaker 4: You know, he wanted base intelligence and then he wanted 1594 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 4: to talk to the coaches. 1595 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 3: It was after beating the Browns, if I remember correct, 1596 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 3: he was a little bit happy. 1597 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 2: He was very happy. 1598 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 5: He was. 1599 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 2: And Lamar Lamar he was a dresser. 1600 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 4: Oh, he had a seamstress in Saint Louis, and then 1601 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,520 Speaker 4: he had people here in Cincinnati that also uh contributed 1602 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:18,960 Speaker 4: to his his wardrobe. 1603 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 5: But man. 1604 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,560 Speaker 4: Uh you know, tailor made so they you know, perfectly 1605 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 4: form fitting and uh you know Leap Lamar was a 1606 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 4: handsome dude and you know, very very fit, very put together. Yeah, 1607 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 4: very uh you know, muscle in the right spots. He 1608 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 4: he was. He was a very uh, very. 1609 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 3: I wish I had a picture of ball and a 1610 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 3: fur coat in the fedora and uh and it was 1611 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 3: a mink too. 1612 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 4: But he had he had minks, he had raccoons, he 1613 01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 4: had you name it, every every animal, squirrel, I guess, 1614 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 4: I don't know every every animal. They had enough fur. 1615 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 4: Every animal, they had enough fur that you could put 1616 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 4: put together fur coat. Lamar had it. 1617 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 2: It was great, oh beautiful. 1618 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a time back, come back more 1619 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 3: to get to on this Bunday Bengals Line or the 1620 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 3: Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred w l W. Hey, 1621 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 3: let's keep it rolling on this Monday night. We're talking 1622 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 3: Bengals on Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network in 1623 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 3: seven hundred. 1624 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 2: W l W. Lance Pacalister, along with Dave. 1625 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 4: Lapham and Lance Paik Corp, Is proud to be the 1626 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 4: official HR software provider of the Cincinnati Bengle. 1627 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 3: All Right, we talked Lamar Parrish in the first segment. 1628 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 3: I must talk to you about you in this segment 1629 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 3: because you're going into the Ring of Honor. Easy, first question, 1630 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,559 Speaker 3: will you write a speech or will you do you 1631 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 3: deliver a speech? Or do you do words off the 1632 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 3: top of your head? 1633 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:33,880 Speaker 2: What? What? 1634 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 4: What happens? That's a good question. I'm not sure. I 1635 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 4: haven't been informed of that yet, but I'm sure they'll be. 1636 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 4: There's there's multiple functions. There's a breakfast, there's a dinner. 1637 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,639 Speaker 4: There's the actual induction on you know, Ring of Honor 1638 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 4: day at at against the New York Jets. 1639 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 3: That'll be cool, getting everybody together, storytelling and everything. 1640 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, my family, a lot of family from from 1641 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 4: New England, California, Arizona. I mean family from all over 1642 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,719 Speaker 4: coming in. My brother, uh, my older brother, my younger sister, 1643 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,759 Speaker 4: my younger brother, they're all coming in. And uh Lynn's 1644 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 4: side of the family, her brother, her sister in law, 1645 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 4: and and uh their their kids and grandkids. Got a 1646 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 4: got a bunch of it'll be uh. Uh we've we've 1647 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 4: maxed out our tickets, which is good. They're all being 1648 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 4: used and uh and yeah, there'll be a lot of storytelling. Uh, 1649 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 4: little little I'll have her good up and give her 1650 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 4: share of stories too. 1651 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 5: She can roll. 1652 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 2: That's it could be a podcast. 1653 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely absolutely. 1654 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 2: Have you been do you get measured for your coat? 1655 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 2: Have you been measured? You have? 1656 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 4: Uh? And uh that should be uh, that should be 1657 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 4: all set, all taken care of. 1658 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 5: I'll get that. 1659 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 8: Uh. 1660 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what day we're uh lined up to 1661 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 4: get that, but I'll be receiving that. 1662 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 5: And uh, you can't wait for that. 1663 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,879 Speaker 4: That goes on on the field, you know, at halftime 1664 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 4: of the of the game against the Jets, and you 1665 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,400 Speaker 4: know the Jets, we had some good battles man Cleco 1666 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,479 Speaker 4: and Gaston and those big old dogs hands change, Yeah, 1667 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,960 Speaker 4: the sack exchange they had. 1668 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 5: They had great football teams back then. 1669 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 4: And uh so it'll be uh, it'll be fun at 1670 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,799 Speaker 4: uh one o'clock kick at pay Course Stadium. 1671 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 3: From a playing standpoint, is it safe to say, as 1672 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 3: you reflect back on your playing career, you were most 1673 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 3: proud of how versatile you were for your football team. 1674 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 4: That's that's the Yeah, that's the probably the number one 1675 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 4: and only thing probably that that I would distinguish me 1676 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 4: from anybody else would be the fact that played, you know, 1677 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 4: all five positions in the offensive line and did it, 1678 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 4: uh in one game, two different times in one year 1679 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 4: or so. That was that was always. That was an 1680 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 4: amazing thing. 1681 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,680 Speaker 3: And uh, I still I mean you say that, I 1682 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 3: hope that hits people. Is what you just said. Take 1683 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 3: me through how it unfolded that you not not five 1684 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 3: times in different spots in one season, you did it 1685 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 3: in one game. 1686 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,479 Speaker 2: What was that like? 1687 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was a challenge. 1688 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 4: I mean Mike McCormick was my offensive line coach and 1689 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 4: he would give us a written tests every week on assignments. 1690 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 5: Uh. 1691 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 4: And he would give us two grades. One in the 1692 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,240 Speaker 4: upper left hand corner was it was your grade on 1693 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,839 Speaker 4: your position, and upper right hand corner corner was everybody 1694 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,719 Speaker 4: on the offensive line and the five offensive lineman and uh, 1695 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 4: you know I started grading pretty well in both areas, 1696 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 4: and he's like, you know, we might, uh see, you 1697 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 4: might start working a little bit at some of these 1698 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 4: other positions. 1699 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 5: Uh. 1700 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,839 Speaker 4: And particularly in past protection. You know, there's different techniques 1701 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 4: who want to teach you and blah blah blah. And 1702 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 4: Mike McCormick was an All Pro tackle himself with the 1703 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, for Paul Brown, so we had a common 1704 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 4: denominator there. But uh, yeah, Mike McCormick was a big 1705 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 4: factor in me being able to play all those all 1706 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,160 Speaker 4: those different positions in the same game. 1707 01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 3: How strongly did you consider could could we? Could we 1708 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,640 Speaker 3: have been talking about Dave Lapham the coach instead of 1709 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 3: Dave Lapham the broadcaster. Did you think about coaching? You 1710 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 3: You thought about it strongly getting into coaching. 1711 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 2: Didn't you? 1712 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely? I did. 1713 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,719 Speaker 4: Lance, Yeah, I thought long and hard about it. Paul 1714 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 4: Brown offered it up and said, you know, think you'd 1715 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,680 Speaker 4: be a good line coach. And he felt like at 1716 01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,680 Speaker 4: the NFL level, like I had Rock all Pirot at 1717 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 4: Syracuse who he respected, and then in the NFL level 1718 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 4: because he respected Ben Schwarzwalder so much at the collegiate level, 1719 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,759 Speaker 4: and then at the NFL level, to have Tiger Johnson, 1720 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 4: Mike McCormick, those kind of people. 1721 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 5: He knew what they were all about. 1722 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 4: He knew he hired those guys, he knew their resumes, 1723 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 4: He knew that they were both Pro Bowl players, great linemen, 1724 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 4: great players of their era, and and had taken on 1725 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 4: the coaching profession and succeeded very very well. So, you know, 1726 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 4: he he took me into his office at the stadium 1727 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 4: and said, you know, would you have an interest? And 1728 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not sure, let me let me think 1729 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 4: about it. And really, for the sake of my wife 1730 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,679 Speaker 4: and children, I just didn't want to be hopscotching around 1731 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 4: here as much, so I thought, well, stay in the 1732 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 4: broadcast end of it. And it's worked out. We've been 1733 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 4: been here for fifty years, ten as a player and 1734 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 4: forty in the booth. 1735 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 3: Now, man, oh man, what what does anything stick out 1736 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 3: from your very first game as a player with the. 1737 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 4: Bengals, Boy, very first game as a player. I just 1738 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 4: know I remember my very first practice probably as much 1739 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 4: as my very first game because it was against Mike Reid. 1740 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 4: I mean, the All Pro defensive tackle who was a 1741 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,600 Speaker 4: concert pianist and a musician songwriter. I mean, yes, this 1742 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:44,519 Speaker 4: dude was unbelievably talented. My god, he was amazing. He 1743 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 4: was like sixty three two fifty five two sixty I 1744 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 4: mean so quick. It's like, I know, I didn't close 1745 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 4: my damn eyes. How the hell did he get from 1746 01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 4: there to there? 1747 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 5: So fast? He was. 1748 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 4: I used to just love all the offensive line we'd 1749 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,479 Speaker 4: stand on the side instead of sitting now with stand 1750 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 4: there and watch him. 1751 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 5: What's he gonna do? Oh? 1752 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,599 Speaker 4: Here he comes, here it is, here's the play. He's 1753 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 4: gonna make a big one. 1754 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 5: He was. 1755 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 4: He impacted the game from the defensive tackle position more 1756 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 4: than any alignment I've ever seen. 1757 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 3: I always thought he would be a great subject for 1758 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 3: ESPN's thirty for thirty, Absolutely for people who do just 1759 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 3: don't understand and appreciate how good he was as a 1760 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 3: football player walking away from it, and how good he 1761 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 3: was a singer songwriter. He's in the Nashville Music Hall 1762 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 3: of Fame. Ronnie MILLSAP songs, Bonnie Rait songs, his own songs. 1763 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 3: I was at now I'm flashing back to this. I 1764 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 3: was at the Blind Lemon with my wife a couple 1765 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,800 Speaker 3: of years ago, first time I'd never been there, and 1766 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 3: I looked at all the pictures up on the wall 1767 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,520 Speaker 3: of Mike Reid, and I'm like, if people only understood, 1768 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,840 Speaker 3: there should be an ESPN thirty for thirty on the 1769 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,840 Speaker 3: life of Mike Reid. 1770 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:49,560 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 1771 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he really he was an unbelievable football player, and 1772 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 4: only like you said, Lance, he left the game four 1773 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,679 Speaker 4: years after his fourth year, you had to play five 1774 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 4: to be invested pension. 1775 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,680 Speaker 5: And he said, yeah, forget it, I'm done with it. 1776 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 4: He hated football, hated it, hated the physicality of it. 1777 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,640 Speaker 4: I mean when I was a rookie, I was, you know, 1778 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,560 Speaker 4: young and enthusiastic and you know, energetic, and I was 1779 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 4: coming off the line of scrimmage like it was a game, 1780 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 4: you know, and he's like, hey, hey, hey, big boy, 1781 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:26,080 Speaker 4: you know sixty two, you know he settled down, Slow down, 1782 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,719 Speaker 4: my man. Uh, you know, this is a long season. 1783 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,400 Speaker 4: You're you're you're gonna you're gonna kill me. 1784 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:31,600 Speaker 5: You know. 1785 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 4: It's I'm not interested in in in doing this. And 1786 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 4: it's like, oh man. Then I remember him sitting me 1787 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,920 Speaker 4: down in uh in the locker room when he was 1788 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,640 Speaker 4: gonna retire and talking about it and how heartfelt it 1789 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 4: was and everything. He just uh, I mean, the good 1790 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 4: Lord blessed him. But he said, you know what, Lord, 1791 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,599 Speaker 4: you also blessed me as a musician. I'm gonna try 1792 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 4: that for a while. 1793 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,920 Speaker 3: All right, final question about your broadcasting career. Take me 1794 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 3: back to like your first year, did you what what 1795 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 3: kind of broadcasting ex did you have any broadcasting experience 1796 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 3: before you started calling games. 1797 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,759 Speaker 5: No I didn't, I really didn't. 1798 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,719 Speaker 4: You know, just interviews, you know with uh, with people 1799 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 4: with local you know, media in town. 1800 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 3: And you would have started with Phil Samp, right, Phil 1801 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 3: Samp was your first. 1802 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 5: Ye, Phil Samp. 1803 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 4: I've had every uh, every play by play person uh 1804 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 4: in Bengals history for radio broadcasting has been a partner. 1805 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,839 Speaker 4: And it's been uh, it's been great. It's been very interesting. 1806 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 4: And uh, I'll tell you what, man, love football, played 1807 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 4: football ever since I could walk, really and uh and 1808 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 4: do it as long as I have truly blessed man 1809 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,040 Speaker 4: oh man. 1810 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:40,960 Speaker 3: I in fact, I wrote down I don't think I'm 1811 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 3: missing any names you would know, from Phil Samp to 1812 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 3: Ken Brews to Paul Keels right to Pete Arbagas, how 1813 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 3: do you do to Brad Johansson to now Dan Horde? 1814 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely wow, man, I uh man, I we're out of time. 1815 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,680 Speaker 3: I could do this all night. I am so before you. 1816 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,479 Speaker 3: I just I just I hearing all your family coming back. 1817 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 3: What a weekend it's gonna be for you? 1818 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. And I'm excited for my my grandchildren. 1819 01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 4: You know, they're they're they're over the moon, they're on 1820 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:17,680 Speaker 4: cloud dying. It's like, and buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, you're 1821 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 4: gonna go in the Ring of Honor? 1822 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:19,680 Speaker 5: Is that is that? 1823 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 4: Like it's not like the Hall of Fame. I said, 1824 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 4: it's not really the Hall of Fame, but it's an 1825 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,000 Speaker 4: you know, it's an it's a great honor achievement. 1826 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 5: I never thought I would. 1827 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,760 Speaker 4: Uh uh so now it's and I'm I'm The thing 1828 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,040 Speaker 4: I'm most happy about is you guys are gonna be there, 1829 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 4: and you guys are gonna be down on the field. 1830 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna be on the field. Yeah, how about that? 1831 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,559 Speaker 4: So get ready tell all your friends. Oh, that's awesome. 1832 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 4: That's awesome. Congratulations, Thank you, very cool, very cool. Take 1833 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,439 Speaker 4: a time out, come back. We got to head down 1834 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 4: the stretch. We've got things to get to. 1835 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:49,160 Speaker 2: Next. 1836 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:55,000 Speaker 3: Bengals Line, Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred W l W. Hey, 1837 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 3: we're rolling right along, cruising through this third hour tonight 1838 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 3: of Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network, seven. 1839 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 4: LW Lance Bengals Friday Night Stripes Tour presented by a 1840 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 4: howl Kat is back for all locations this season. Ortengals 1841 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,600 Speaker 4: dot Com slash community. 1842 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,519 Speaker 3: We Love Dan Horde's weekly conversation with a member of 1843 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 3: the Bengals this week is Shamar stuart for fun facts. 1844 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 3: So let's take a listen Dan Horde with Shamar. 1845 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: No fantastic fun facts with Dan Ord. 1846 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 9: Time for some fun facts with defensive end Shamar Stewart. 1847 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,919 Speaker 9: Your roots are Jamaican? Correct? 1848 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:35,440 Speaker 8: Yes, correct, my mom, everybody, Yeah, everybody, My favorite Jamaican. 1849 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:36,559 Speaker 9: Ever had the chance to go. 1850 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I was little, I haven't been in like 1851 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 6: it's all of the years. Maybe now it's been in 1852 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:41,639 Speaker 6: a while. 1853 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,439 Speaker 9: You grew up near Miami. What do you like most 1854 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 9: about where you're from? 1855 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 8: Uh, the love for football, Like the city is just 1856 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 8: like it's all about football, like little league games, high 1857 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,400 Speaker 8: school games, whatever, whatever. It is at the whole community 1858 01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:00,839 Speaker 8: showing up, coming out to see. 1859 01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,679 Speaker 9: And yet I've read that when you were really young 1860 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 9: you weren't really a sports kid. Is that true? 1861 01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, not at all. You know, I was more 1862 01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,559 Speaker 8: I was more of like a book nerd. Crazy to 1863 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 8: think that, but yeah, So what changed? 1864 01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:17,639 Speaker 9: What flipped the switch? 1865 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 8: One of my stitude teachers in third grade forced me 1866 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,240 Speaker 8: to play football like he was not taking over an answer, 1867 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,560 Speaker 8: so he got my grandma's number and basically forced me 1868 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 8: to force me to the part he was coaching. 1869 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,559 Speaker 9: That that guy did you a favor. 1870 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, his son is my best friend to this day. 1871 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 9: Now, is it true that you were really the last 1872 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 9: kid picked in gym class when you were about in 1873 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 9: sixth grade? 1874 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, for sure. 1875 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 8: I was terrible. I was horrible. They used to say 1876 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 8: I have two left hands. Yeah, I was terrible. 1877 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,960 Speaker 9: We're doing fun facts with Jamar Stewart. When you were 1878 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 9: junior in high school, one of your teammates was Ohio 1879 01:30:55,400 --> 01:31:00,600 Speaker 9: state wide receiver Jeremiah Smith. Could you tell them that 1880 01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,599 Speaker 9: he was going to be that guy? 1881 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,400 Speaker 8: I knew he's gonna be great, but he just kept working. 1882 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,599 Speaker 8: Now it just blew all everything I thought about him 1883 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 8: aout the water like that lesson was there since he 1884 01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 8: came to my high school. So not a big shock. 1885 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 8: I've seen what he did, Like first couple of weeks 1886 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,320 Speaker 8: when he was in full camp, I was like, man's crazy. 1887 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 8: As a freshman in high school. 1888 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 9: It's crazy to me to think that you two guys 1889 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,479 Speaker 9: were in the same high school team. 1890 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we weren't winning nothing. 1891 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,720 Speaker 9: Crazy crazy, right, bad quarterback. 1892 01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,800 Speaker 6: I'll correct on D one. I don't know what it was. 1893 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 9: The other teams must have been really good. 1894 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,439 Speaker 6: Man, I guess. So it's crazy. 1895 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,120 Speaker 9: We're doing fun facts Schamar Stewart, You were one of 1896 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,760 Speaker 9: the top recruits in the country. Did you enjoy the 1897 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 9: process having all of those schools and coaches essentially flirt? 1898 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 6: No? No, man, those phone calls just get crazy. 1899 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,320 Speaker 8: I used to come home, hey man, call me, Like 1900 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,639 Speaker 8: I got like ten calls from different coaches from all 1901 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:03,040 Speaker 8: across the. 1902 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,120 Speaker 6: Country, like, hey man, get back Abby, wait on it. 1903 01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:06,240 Speaker 6: Every asker your phone. 1904 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 8: I'm like, I'll be wanting to talk, Like what are 1905 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 8: they to talk about? 1906 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,559 Speaker 9: You ultimately chose to go to Texas A and M. 1907 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 9: What did you enjoy most about your three years with 1908 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 9: the Aggies? 1909 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,880 Speaker 8: And you know, the coaching staff there REI just treat 1910 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,320 Speaker 8: you like family, you know, even though I'm two thousand 1911 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:24,080 Speaker 8: miles away from home, Like I didn't feel like I 1912 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,439 Speaker 8: was missing home very much. So and plus I made 1913 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,880 Speaker 8: lifelong friends at A and M, so like I feel 1914 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,559 Speaker 8: like I had a home away from home, you know. 1915 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 9: So I read that your nickname at Texas A and 1916 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 9: M was the Menace? Is that true? And who gave 1917 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:38,919 Speaker 9: you that nickname? 1918 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 6: I forgot who exactly gave it to me? 1919 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,400 Speaker 8: But I got it back in high school, going every 1920 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 8: day trying to get better. So of course of my 1921 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,160 Speaker 8: practice hard, you know, make it hard for our office, 1922 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,400 Speaker 8: you know, playing hard in practice to make our office better. 1923 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 8: And in the games, you know, I'm just all over 1924 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 8: the field and I'm just a little menace. 1925 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:57,439 Speaker 6: On the field. 1926 01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,160 Speaker 9: What does the word man represent to you? 1927 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 8: Somebody has always been instructive, so I feel like that 1928 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,040 Speaker 8: defines me very well. 1929 01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 9: So I broadcast the Bengals games on the radio. When 1930 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 9: you have a sack, would you like me and my 1931 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 9: broadcast partner Dave Lapham to say a sack by the menace? 1932 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 5: I would love that. 1933 01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,120 Speaker 6: I will love that all right. 1934 01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 9: Well, hopefully there will be a bunch this year. Do 1935 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 9: you have been compared to a Texas A and m 1936 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:31,639 Speaker 9: legend Miles Garrett for obvious reasons, your similar size, similar 1937 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 9: athletic ability. What do you think of Miles Garrett? What 1938 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:35,560 Speaker 9: do you think of the comparison? 1939 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,160 Speaker 8: Man, he's a great player, and I feel like that's 1940 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:39,720 Speaker 8: a blessing because the. 1941 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,040 Speaker 6: Way he's doing it right now, he's coming the game. 1942 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 8: And I feel like that's a very great, great comparison. 1943 01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 8: I feel like we look we match up body wise. No, 1944 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:50,759 Speaker 8: I'm trying to match someone play wise. 1945 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,599 Speaker 9: Was it a goal of yours to top the numbers 1946 01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 9: that he posted at his combine? 1947 01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 6: Kind of? 1948 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 5: Sort of? 1949 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 8: You know, I feel like if I could get what 1950 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 8: he got, people will look at me a different light. 1951 01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,679 Speaker 8: So I tried my hardest. He got me some arias, 1952 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 8: and I got him in some areas to. 1953 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,160 Speaker 9: You got him in the forty, You got him in 1954 01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,080 Speaker 9: the broad jump. He got you by one inch in 1955 01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 9: the vertical. That's pretty impressive. 1956 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,800 Speaker 8: That's crazy because I felt like I jumped out my spine. 1957 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 6: It's crazy. 1958 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,040 Speaker 9: All right, we're visiting with Shamar Stewart. Let's get back 1959 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:25,759 Speaker 9: to athletic testing. Those numbers were freakish that you posted 1960 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,599 Speaker 9: in Indianapolis. What do you consider to be your greatest 1961 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:34,080 Speaker 9: athletic achievement? Did you dunk get a really early age? 1962 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1963 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,400 Speaker 9: What stands out to you? 1964 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:37,400 Speaker 2: Uh? 1965 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,439 Speaker 6: I don't. I got my first dunk in sixth grade? 1966 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:41,599 Speaker 9: Sixth grade? 1967 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, five nine. 1968 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,639 Speaker 9: That's amazing. You were the seventeenth overall pick in the draft. 1969 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,599 Speaker 9: You'll always be referred to as first round draft pick. 1970 01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,680 Speaker 9: Shamar Stewart. It becomes almost like a title. Can you 1971 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:59,160 Speaker 9: describe the experience of being in Green Bay at Lambeau? 1972 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 8: You know, I was really happy, you know, I was 1973 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 8: thankful for a moment, you know, me and my family, 1974 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,760 Speaker 8: everybody that had been along with me every step of 1975 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 8: the way, it was there, so you know, you know, 1976 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 8: I just took the night in, enjoyed it. Not they 1977 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,960 Speaker 8: didn't really have much expectations, just if it was God's playing, 1978 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 8: So just wanted to be in the moment with everybody 1979 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:21,280 Speaker 8: that I love. 1980 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 9: You did a phone call with reporters afterward and you 1981 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:29,200 Speaker 9: didn't specifically remember meeting with the Bengals at the combine, 1982 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,080 Speaker 9: And I get it. It's speed dating. You're going from 1983 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 9: team to team to team. It's like, you know, fifteen 1984 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,720 Speaker 9: minute meetings with all of these teams. When you came 1985 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 9: into Cincinnati and you saw Zach Taylor and you saw 1986 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 9: El Golden and you saw Jerry Montgomery, did it click 1987 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 9: back in? Did you remember? 1988 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:45,599 Speaker 8: Oh? 1989 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:46,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, those guys. 1990 01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of hard, Like you gotta remember I 1991 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,200 Speaker 8: had twenty two formos, a couple infemos, and then I 1992 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:58,800 Speaker 8: had fifteen thirty visits. So my mind is just all 1993 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,960 Speaker 8: over the place. I'm ready for it over. I'm ready 1994 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 8: to be in one place. So when I see him, like, okay, 1995 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,800 Speaker 8: I'm definitely remember MIDI Yo. 1996 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 9: The important thing is that they remembered you really well. 1997 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 6: I thank god they remembered me. If damn my memory, 1998 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:15,680 Speaker 6: I'll probably be cooked right now. 1999 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,679 Speaker 9: The next day, you were in Cincinnati for a news conference. 2000 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,680 Speaker 9: You were accompanied by your mentor, Mo, the man you 2001 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,160 Speaker 9: call dad. How did he come into your life? 2002 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:26,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 2003 01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:26,800 Speaker 5: He came. 2004 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,120 Speaker 8: He became my coach after my freshman year of high school. 2005 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 8: I remember walking to seeing him for the first day. 2006 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:34,680 Speaker 6: I was maybe like. 2007 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:40,600 Speaker 8: Two two fifteen. Maybe he was like and I was 2008 01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,400 Speaker 8: like two fifteen six four. He's like, I don't know 2009 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,680 Speaker 8: who you are, but I'm gonna make your best pen 2010 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,240 Speaker 8: of country. Fast forward five months later, I was the 2011 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:49,599 Speaker 8: best parent in the country. And ever since that day, 2012 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 8: I just listened to everything he told me. 2013 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,040 Speaker 9: Do you know what he saw in you? 2014 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,160 Speaker 6: No, but I'm glad he did because I didn't see 2015 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:56,679 Speaker 6: them myself. 2016 01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,839 Speaker 9: Time for some wild card topics now with Shamar Stewart. 2017 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,280 Speaker 9: Who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport? 2018 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,360 Speaker 6: All time favorite athlete? Who? 2019 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:13,000 Speaker 9: Derek Rosse, Derek Rose, that's a deep cut. You might 2020 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 9: be the first person who ever say Derek Rose. 2021 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,280 Speaker 6: Man, Derek Rose is crazy. 2022 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 9: All right, Derek Rose, that's a very interesting answer. Other 2023 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,040 Speaker 9: than playing football, what are you good at? 2024 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 6: I'm good at video games? 2025 01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 8: What in particular I'm good at playing two K you know, 2026 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,479 Speaker 8: call dow used to be my thing for a while. 2027 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 6: I'm trying to explore on the on the game of Horizon. 2028 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,599 Speaker 9: On the flip side, is there anything that you are 2029 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 9: really terrible at? 2030 01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:40,679 Speaker 2: Singing? 2031 01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,320 Speaker 8: The man wanted singing. I'm terrible singing. My voice is 2032 01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,320 Speaker 8: not meant for singing. God messing with a lot of things. 2033 01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,000 Speaker 8: Was singing was not one of them. Even in the shower, 2034 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:52,960 Speaker 8: Even in the shower. 2035 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:53,839 Speaker 6: I'll be terrible. 2036 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,680 Speaker 9: Have you given any thought to a SAX celebration? 2037 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 6: Get my first one? 2038 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 8: I'm a I'm gonna have to plan one out for 2039 01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,479 Speaker 8: the next one, because like now, they're coming in so 2040 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 8: but the first one, I don't got nothing plan for 2041 01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 8: the first one. 2042 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,280 Speaker 9: First one is whatever just happens in the moment, and 2043 01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,000 Speaker 9: then once you've got one under your belt, you can 2044 01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:14,599 Speaker 9: start playing. 2045 01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 6: I make I'm gonna making my next one my signature. 2046 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:17,439 Speaker 5: All right? 2047 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 9: Is there a team or an opponent that you are 2048 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:27,120 Speaker 9: most excited to face. The Dolphins home county team, you know, the. 2049 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 8: East to have My favorite player, Tiger Carroll was my 2050 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 8: fair player for a while, being the kid watching those 2051 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 8: type of people on TV and then one now playing 2052 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 8: against them. You know, it's gonna be a big opportunity, 2053 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:39,599 Speaker 8: you know, because I used to look up too those 2054 01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,600 Speaker 8: people and being being on the same field as them 2055 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,280 Speaker 8: at the same time. 2056 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 6: You know, it's a great it's a great achievement. 2057 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 9: Christmas Week in prime time at Miami, that's gonna be 2058 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:53,320 Speaker 9: quite the deal for you. 2059 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, the whole family's gonna be out there. 2060 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 8: You know, everybody's gonna be cheering me on. 2061 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 6: I'm home. I anticipate be very comfortable. 2062 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:02,960 Speaker 9: Did you go to games there when you were young? 2063 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,000 Speaker 6: I went to maybe a couple, not a lot, but 2064 01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:06,400 Speaker 6: a couple. 2065 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,120 Speaker 3: Part of the conversation Dan Horde had with Shamar Stewart 2066 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,720 Speaker 3: for Fun Facts. More of that interview found on the 2067 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,680 Speaker 3: Bengals Booth podcast Still Ahead Talk some Jets. You'll hear 2068 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,920 Speaker 3: what Aaron Glenn had to say about changing quarterbacks yesterday 2069 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,439 Speaker 3: and since the Bengals won, we will end the show 2070 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,640 Speaker 3: with the presentation of the game balls and what was 2071 01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,759 Speaker 3: said in the locker room. All of that is ahead 2072 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,840 Speaker 3: as we head down the stretch. Bengals Line on the 2073 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:33,880 Speaker 3: Bengals Radio Network in seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back 2074 01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,080 Speaker 3: to Bengals Line on this Monday night. We do it 2075 01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 3: on the Bengals Radio networking right here on seven hundred 2076 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,160 Speaker 3: WLW Lance, but have Lester Dave lap them. Next up, 2077 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,920 Speaker 3: those New York Jets losers yesterday thirteen to six to 2078 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. The Jets dropped to oh to seven. 2079 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,320 Speaker 3: They made a quarterback change in game justin fields out 2080 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor in Here's the opening thoughts on yesterday's loss 2081 01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,280 Speaker 3: from Jets coach Aaron Glenn. 2082 01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,679 Speaker 10: All Right, when it comes to injuries, j to Felley 2083 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,680 Speaker 10: went out the game with a knee and Sauce and 2084 01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 10: can they both had concussion. 2085 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 6: So we'll see exactly where that is. 2086 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,840 Speaker 10: Give you guys an answer as the week progress on 2087 01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 10: those three guys. When it comes to the game, I mean, 2088 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,920 Speaker 10: obviously disappointed. Another low scoring game where the defense did 2089 01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 10: a hell of a job, you know, holding this holding 2090 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,560 Speaker 10: this team to thirteen points, getting a good amount of 2091 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,519 Speaker 10: three and outs, but obviously not good enough. I mean, 2092 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,080 Speaker 10: we give it too many points till I'm to win 2093 01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,439 Speaker 10: the game offensively. We have a lot of work to 2094 01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,519 Speaker 10: do and that speaks for self. We all know that. 2095 01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,680 Speaker 10: But the only thing we can do is go back 2096 01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:43,160 Speaker 10: to work. It's the only thing we can do. I 2097 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,840 Speaker 10: understand the nature of the quarterback change, Listen, we needed 2098 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,960 Speaker 10: a spark at that time. I felt it was the 2099 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:52,879 Speaker 10: right time to do it. There was a tough situation 2100 01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,760 Speaker 10: for both of those guys, but it was my call. 2101 01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:58,640 Speaker 10: It was my call, and I felt it was the 2102 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:00,680 Speaker 10: right time to do it. So when it goes into 2103 01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,519 Speaker 10: the next week, I'm not ready to sit here and 2104 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,839 Speaker 10: say what's going on happen when next week with our quarterbacks, 2105 01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 10: But I will say this, that's something I have to 2106 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:11,559 Speaker 10: look at, you know, so any questions, I will say this. 2107 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,280 Speaker 10: On a special team, I thought our special team did 2108 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:17,160 Speaker 10: some good things. There was a couple of things that 2109 01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 10: that we still have to work on, you know, for 2110 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:19,880 Speaker 10: the most part, but there. 2111 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,720 Speaker 5: Are some good things our special teams did. 2112 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,680 Speaker 10: I was just gonna hurt cause canas out you know, 2113 01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,920 Speaker 10: with see exactly what it is gonna lead to because he's. 2114 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,360 Speaker 5: He's one of our dynamic guys. 2115 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,080 Speaker 10: But I thought there were some good things on special teams. 2116 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,920 Speaker 4: When you did make the change, it looked like you 2117 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 4: had a little bit more flow offensively with Tyrod, even 2118 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 4: though that's a great playing. 2119 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:39,679 Speaker 6: The end zone. 2120 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 5: But what did you did you feel out at all? 2121 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,200 Speaker 10: You know, Yeah, I just I just felt like it 2122 01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,040 Speaker 10: was it was time, you know, that our team needed 2123 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,240 Speaker 10: to spark, and I thought we did move the ball, 2124 01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,640 Speaker 10: you know, fairly well, obviously not enough to give our 2125 01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 10: chief a chance to win. Yeah, those guys made two 2126 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 10: great plays on interceptions, and I guess the tough thing 2127 01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,400 Speaker 10: about that is, man, you rather have where either we 2128 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 10: catch it it's a dp I or it's incomplete, you know. 2129 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,519 Speaker 10: And that has to be the mindset of us on 2130 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 10: offense to where we're not giving up interceptions. So but 2131 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,800 Speaker 10: they happen, you know, got to get those guys credit. 2132 01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 10: They made some plays, but we have to be able 2133 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,720 Speaker 10: to pull out you know, these little scoring games. The 2134 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:19,639 Speaker 10: thing is our guys are fighting. There's no quitting any 2135 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,120 Speaker 10: of our guys. So I give those guys a lot 2136 01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 10: of credit, but again we have to go back to 2137 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:24,479 Speaker 10: work next week. 2138 01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,599 Speaker 11: Could you talk about some of the issues with past protection. 2139 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,360 Speaker 10: They were not a big sack team coming in and 2140 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,240 Speaker 10: I think they equals well, again, I have to go 2141 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,840 Speaker 10: back and look at it, but it seemed like we 2142 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,040 Speaker 10: lost a good bit of one on ones and that 2143 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 10: can happen in those situations, and I guess it's obviously. 2144 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,680 Speaker 10: I mean, team's gonna try to pressure us, and we 2145 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:47,040 Speaker 10: have to do a better job in those situations. So again, 2146 01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:48,599 Speaker 10: we have to look at the take, you know, see 2147 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,240 Speaker 10: exactly what the issues are, go back to work next 2148 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 10: week and try to fix those. 2149 01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,280 Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn, rookie coach, was the defensive coordinator or the 2150 01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,080 Speaker 3: Jets or the Lions last year. It becomes the first 2151 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,559 Speaker 3: Jets coach to lose his first seven games to begin 2152 01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,720 Speaker 3: his career. Jets haven't scored an offensive touchdown in the 2153 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,640 Speaker 3: last two weeks. 2154 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:07,280 Speaker 2: Oh and seven. 2155 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 3: Boy, I'd like to jump on them quickly and give 2156 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 3: them little reason to stay engaged in the game on Sunday. 2157 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,160 Speaker 4: I think you've hit on the biggest factor and not 2158 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 4: surprised with all the football that you've seen. Paul Brown 2159 01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 4: used to say that when we were going against the 2160 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,720 Speaker 4: team they hadn't won a game. He would be like, 2161 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,760 Speaker 4: jump right down their throats, you know, right away, take 2162 01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,439 Speaker 4: all the air out of their out of their lungs, 2163 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:34,040 Speaker 4: you know, hit them as hard as you can, for 2164 01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,479 Speaker 4: as quickly as you possibly can. We don't want to 2165 01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,400 Speaker 4: mess around. We don't want it to be scoreless after 2166 01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,439 Speaker 4: the first quarter, scores at halftime, have them in the 2167 01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,559 Speaker 4: game at the end of the third quarter. We want 2168 01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,439 Speaker 4: this game to be over with And he honestly, he 2169 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,000 Speaker 4: remember he told me one time, I'd rather play against 2170 01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,439 Speaker 4: a team you know that's that's seven and zero rather 2171 01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,840 Speaker 4: than oh and seven, because I know my guys are 2172 01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,360 Speaker 4: going to be up to beat them. They want to 2173 01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 4: be the first team to knock them off, you know, 2174 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 4: And that's just human nature. And he said, you know, 2175 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,640 Speaker 4: he used to worry about these these games, and I 2176 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 4: think Mike, being the son of Paul Brown, I think 2177 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,040 Speaker 4: he probably has has his share of worry about this 2178 01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:15,639 Speaker 4: one as well. 2179 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take our final time out, head down the stretch. 2180 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,679 Speaker 3: We'll hear what it sounded like in a victorious locker room. 2181 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,360 Speaker 3: To wrap things up on Bengals Line on the Bengals 2182 01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,520 Speaker 3: Radio network and seven hundred WLW. 2183 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,639 Speaker 2: All right, here we go down the stretch final segment 2184 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 2: of the. 2185 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,479 Speaker 3: Night here on Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network 2186 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:38,360 Speaker 3: in seven hundred WLW. We always like to after victories 2187 01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 3: listen in on what it sounded like and the presentation 2188 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,080 Speaker 3: of the game balls, and you better believe we're doing that. 2189 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 3: Let's go back to Thursday night. Here is Zach after 2190 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:47,520 Speaker 3: a big win over the Steelers. 2191 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 7: Sure it is early in the season, but I couldn't 2192 01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,200 Speaker 7: be happy for you guys because we've sat in these 2193 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 7: locker rooms the last four weeks and preached you guys 2194 01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,760 Speaker 7: are working hard, you're sticking together. 2195 01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,160 Speaker 11: You're about the right stuff. It's gonna come. And this 2196 01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 11: feeling right now you have. 2197 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 7: Okay, it's Tony October, but the feeling reminds you of 2198 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,000 Speaker 7: why we do this. Okay, to get a big divisional win. 2199 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:15,000 Speaker 7: What's your wrecking the division right now? So we got time, 2200 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,360 Speaker 7: we get a little streak going here, but we're gonna 2201 01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,680 Speaker 7: be in great shape. What you guys did tonight is outstanding. 2202 01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,680 Speaker 11: I got a lot of game boss to give out turnovers. 2203 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,960 Speaker 11: Say his name a lot. I feel like Jordan Battle. 2204 01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:40,759 Speaker 2: Where are you at? 2205 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 11: I know, Roy City, I don't know how you did it, 2206 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 11: d J. We needed it. 2207 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 9: Man, I know I'm telling you. 2208 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,799 Speaker 11: I'm telling you these divisual games. 2209 01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:56,439 Speaker 7: Every point matters Moneymack four field goals, a game. 2210 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,960 Speaker 2: Winner points time. 2211 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 11: Man, let me start by saying this about the offense 2212 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 11: real quick. 2213 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,679 Speaker 7: Anytime you have four hundred and seventy yards fast game 2214 01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,880 Speaker 7: one hundred and forty two rushing three forty two, that 2215 01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 7: means your line your damn good job and telling us 2216 01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,360 Speaker 7: so YouTube captains got shot out game. 2217 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,800 Speaker 11: Tell me eleven carries for. 2218 01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,280 Speaker 7: A nine point eight yard average per carry one hundred 2219 01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 7: eight yards. Give me thirty one thirty one for forty 2220 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,720 Speaker 7: seven forty two yards touchdowns. 2221 01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:53,599 Speaker 11: Here we go. 2222 01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:57,160 Speaker 7: I'm breaking his own franchise record for catches in the 2223 01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:14,559 Speaker 7: game sixteen. Understand, keep this filming right here, right here, 2224 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,000 Speaker 7: keep this maintain this. 2225 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:17,799 Speaker 11: Level of aity. 2226 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,320 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, game balls and the sounds of victory. 2227 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:37,040 Speaker 5: Nowa day. 2228 01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,320 Speaker 3: Final thoughts on Sunday, boy, if you can get away 2229 01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,200 Speaker 3: over the Jets, he get back to five hundred all 2230 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,280 Speaker 3: of a sudden, after everything you've been through, they would 2231 01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,519 Speaker 3: go to bed Sunday night at four and four, And 2232 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,479 Speaker 3: how good a position would that be for this football team? 2233 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,320 Speaker 3: After where they were to get to where they would be. 2234 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're exactly right, Lance. 2235 01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,640 Speaker 4: I mean there's there's a lot of football left to 2236 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,519 Speaker 4: be played, and uh, you know, crawling back to five 2237 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,600 Speaker 4: hundred is nice. You know, you start off two and oh, 2238 01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor never won his first two games to start 2239 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:09,479 Speaker 4: a season. And you lose four in a row. You know, 2240 01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,240 Speaker 4: it's it's the old roller coaster like we talked about. 2241 01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 4: It's the National Football League. You can't give up the ship, 2242 01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 4: you know if you do all go on a four 2243 01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,400 Speaker 4: game losing streak. And this team hasn't. This team does 2244 01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:24,240 Speaker 4: have character, they do have five or they know what 2245 01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:28,280 Speaker 4: it's in football games. And they just beat the division leader. 2246 01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,200 Speaker 4: So you're in second place and you just knocked off 2247 01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:33,840 Speaker 4: the division leader. You have two division wins, you're two 2248 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,160 Speaker 4: and zero. Build on it. Build on it. 2249 01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,720 Speaker 3: Sounds like a playan have a great weekend again. I 2250 01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,799 Speaker 3: could not be happier for you. Sunday is gonna be awesome. 2251 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,360 Speaker 3: Enjoy with your family, all right, shall do? 2252 01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:46,599 Speaker 5: Lance? Appreciate you? Sir? 2253 01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,760 Speaker 2: He is Dave Blackham. 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