1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: For a month fifty five KOSS the talk station. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Eight twenty nine here for the five KRCD Talk station. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday to you. I hope you have been a 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: good one. Welcome back. It's been too long from the 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Cincinnaian quiry. You can find on the line at Cincinnati 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: dot com. Scott Wortman. Pleasure to have you back on 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: the program. Scott, I hope you're well. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm excellent, great to be back. How are you doing. 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing fine, really actually quite well, living my best 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: life right now. Scott. I'm happy to say. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: I love to hear it. 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: This is obviously a really exciting time. Politics is always 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: exciting for people like you and me, we dwellers following politics, 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: which is what you do. Of course, with the big 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: race coming up the first week in November, voters going 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: to get an opportunity to maybe change the direction of 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: downtown Cincinnati. Maybe not the election. Most notably, let's pivot 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: over and look at the mayoral race. I have to 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: have provol versus Corey Bowman. And what real quick I 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: got to get this out of the way, Scott Wortman. 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: What does everybody always have to say? Jd Vance's half 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: a broad or JD Vance's brother. When referring to Corey Bowman, 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: it's almost like a default insert in every article that 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: I read. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that that is everything seems the 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: politically at least, and actually a lot of news stories 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: go back to the White House. And I mean it 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: is something that when people look for news and could 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: we see what people read. President Trump and the vice 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: president drives a lot of interest. So, I mean that's 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: what people are interested in. 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: But he's Corey Bowman. I have I've interviewed him here 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: in the Morning Show many times. I've met him in 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: person many times have been in events where he spoke, 35 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: and I mean, he doesn't bring up his brother, he 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: doesn't bring up president. He certainly is not campaign as 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: a MAGA person. But then again, he got a f 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: tab purval with all these campaign adds with Donald Trump 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: and Jade Vance's picture on it telling the residents of 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: the city to save us from MAGA, as if they're 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: going to come in and run things in the city. 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Sure, I mean it's still I mean, I don't know 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: any way that that's going to not be a big 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: part of the race, since again, the White House drives 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: so many strong emotions and has been very divisive, So 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see I don't see that changing anytime. 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: So I don't either. But then again, if I had 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: a record I was running on, I might want to 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: prop up my record and talk about all the things 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: that I've accomplished and why I am a better choice 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: than the unknown, politically experienced Corey Bowlman. I haven't heard 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: have to have Purvoll do that, and of late, the dominant. 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Corey has made that argument. Yeah in debates too as well. 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean that's that's really my only 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: point to bring it up. I trust me. I'm painfully 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: aware of how that gets clicks Maga Trump. That always 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: gets clicks, and of course that can drive clicks on articles. 58 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: But after Purple has been running around at least up 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: until recent moments in time saying that there is no 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: crime problem in the city. Crime is down, it's a 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: problem of perception. And yet just yesterday he talked about 62 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: this ongoing gun violence in the wake of what five 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: shootings in the last couple of days, calling it absolutely 64 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: intolerable and announcing new measures. He's put in the Critical 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Disturbance Response Team and SWAT team down at Fountain Square 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: between two and ten pm every day. That's something brand new. 67 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: He's encouraging council members to create an earlier curfew for 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: Fountain Square, maybe starting at six pm. That just happened. 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people were clamoring for action earlier. We 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: know we're down on police resources. They've been talking about 71 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: lateral hires and new classes for a long time. That's 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: a slow, slow process. So I guess because of the election, 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: is he now appreciating the problem that the residents of 74 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: downtown Cincinnati perceive. 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak like why, you know, whether 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: it's different in his mind than before the election, but 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean it is definitely the dominant issue that's not 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: going to go away, even probably after November, the November election. 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's something that every day, even 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: with the statistics which show city wide, you know, it's 81 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: not gone up, but in downtown and some of the 82 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: urban areas there there is an uptick in crime and 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: then shootings. Downtown. I believe it's like eight more shootings 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: year the date than last year. But yeah, I don't 85 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: it's definitely something that he can't ignore right well, and 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: when you have high profile one. I'm sorry. So when 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: you have high profile ones like in shooting right in 88 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: Fountain Square at the heart of the city, I mean, 89 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: there's no way to I mean, that's a lot of 90 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: people witnessed it, you know, first hand. 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Well, and then you have this recent development I was 92 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: just talking about before we we we took the break 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: to bring you on Ruby's closing down its events center, 94 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: and they cited a problem with their lease and the landlord. 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: But they did say it was basically safety related, like 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: maybe providing something like security at the front door, which 97 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: doesn't have any security. So even though it's the least 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: dispute over security, this boils down to security in downtown Cincinnati. 99 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: So there's one entity that's now gone, and it's not 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: the first business to close shopp in downtown because of this. People, 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: I mean, people vote with their feet quite often. 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I haven't spoken with Jeff Ruby directly about this, 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: but from what I saw in the statement though, I 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: think they did make it clear that it was a 105 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: landlord tenant dispute, So I mean, I don't know have 106 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: any inside information on it beyond that, but it did 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: seem like they wanted to make it clear that it 108 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the other issues that were involved in it. So 109 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: beyond that, I don't know what's driving that decision. But 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him. I haven't seen him blame crime 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: specifically on that. Well. 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: Brittany Ruby Miller, who's the CEO the and released the 113 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: statement with regard to that, did talk about the safety 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: at the front door, but I'll grant you it was 115 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: a released dispute. But in a follow up statement, she 116 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: concluded with a comment. While first saying she doesn't want 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: to get into politics, she concluded with change only happens 118 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: when the pain of staying the same exceeds the pain 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: of change. So to me, that's a suggestion maybe a 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: change of administration is necessary to deal with the crime problem. 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that statement, but I mean yet, it 122 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: does seem like that it could be where she's gone 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: with that. 124 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Do you do any internal polling or polling 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: with regard to how things are shaking out? I know 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: it as small as the council race and the mayor 127 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 2: races relative to national elections and statewide elections, we don't 128 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: get nearly as much polling. But have you seen that 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: polling information at all related to this race. 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: No, And we actually looked into that and we put 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: some bids out for some firms that do polling, and 132 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: we didn't get any bites on it. And I talked 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: with the candidates and no, there has not been any 134 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: polling on this race. So it's basically just anecdotal. And 135 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you have the primary to go on, but 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: that's about it. So it's pretty much anyone's gas. 137 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: Well, in addition to crime, obviously that's on the number 138 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 2: one conversation talking point with regard to what's going on downtown. 139 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: We have the I guess four hundred miles of roads 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: that need to be repaid. That's been a problem that's 141 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: been building for years and years. But when you're out 142 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: and about and you're talking about this race, do you 143 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: hear the idea of zoning come up? I know, we 144 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: had this massive problem with Hyde Park and they revolted 145 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: and wanted it to be put on the ballot. They 146 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: were successful in getting the development there put the brakes 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: put on it. But what of all the other communities, 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: Bondhill and everybody else who's now underneath this umbrella called 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: connected communities, which is a one size fits all approach 150 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: for all of downtown Cincinnati. 151 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: I hear the zoning issue, like when it comes up 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: in regards to the community councils, do they have enough 153 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: input or are they being ignored? And that's usually from 154 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: people that are like plugged in and engage. But I 155 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know how much of that is for like the 156 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: general populace. I mean, one of the big issues when 157 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: I first took over this beat in this bring what 158 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: was speed bumps and potholes, And it's kind of like 159 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: the basic services. So I mean, I do think zoning 160 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: is an issue, but I don't know if it's going 161 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: to move the needle one way or the other in 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: the election. 163 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: Well man, moving the needle one way or there? You 164 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 2: talk about plugged in and engageing. We got a chuckle 165 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: out of me on that one. The voter turnout in 166 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: downtown today is pretty poor. I think what ten percent 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: and maybe fifteen percent. Do you see this election as 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: resulting in a higher voter turnout? I mean, if you 169 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: had to read tea leaves into as we fast approach November, 170 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Scott Ortman, do you think more people are going to 171 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: actually show up in this one? 172 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is my first one full time on 173 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: the city election. But my experience with elections in general, 174 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: and this could be different because I mean, I think 175 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I do think more people in the last I would 176 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: say ten years are coming out to vote and paying 177 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: attention to politics. But these off year elections where there 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: isn't like a major but there isn't a congressional race, 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: or there isn't a presidential race, probably not. It's still 180 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: probably going to be a lower turnout. I haven't I 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: haven't yet spoken to the Board of Elections on their predictions. 182 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have a projection yet 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: on it. But probably it will be better than the primary, 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: but it's probably still not. It's probably gonna I mean, 185 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't I hesitate to give a actual prediction, but 186 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: it's not going to be like in a presidential race 187 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: or even in a congressional race. I wouldn't think. 188 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: So don't expect a fifty percent turnout in downtown since 189 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: say for this one, Scott, I suppose we can. 190 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I would think not. 191 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, but it illustrates the point, you know, 192 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: in and off your election, your vote matters so much 193 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: more than it would in any other election cycle. I mean, 194 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: it's it seems to me it should serve as a 195 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: great incentive for the city residents to show up and vote. 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's what democracy is all about. 197 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: And as they you know, the cliche goes. But the 198 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: cliche a reason if you don't vote, you can't complain, 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Scott Warmanton, you shouldn't, at. 200 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Least well, you shouldn't, clearly, Scott Wormanton saying, inquire since 201 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: anty dot commis or you find, Scott any other observations 202 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: you want to pass along to my listeners that you've 203 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: encountered as you've been following this race. 204 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Scott, Well, I mean, I think the big question this 205 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: race is whether a non Democrat can get on city council. 206 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's going to be because I think it 207 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: is possible, but it's it's very tough because it's one 208 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: of those things. And this is also what's so hard 209 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: to predict elections. What you hear and see online, Again, 210 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: those are for people that are plugged in, but isn't 211 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: necessarily how the general population votes. 212 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 213 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: And so at least in the last like four or 214 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: five city elections, the Democratic slate card has been incredibly 215 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: influential on the overall voting public. In the city. So 216 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: whether whether that holds true or not, I think a 217 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: few people might be able to break through, but whether 218 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: they will or not, that is I'll be very interested 219 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: to see. 220 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Well as a you know, encouragement for my listeners. Everybody 221 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: else is considering voting if you perceive crime as being 222 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: a problem. There are judicial races that people need to 223 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: pay close attention to. And you talk about having to 224 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: be a weed dweller. If you don't have any interaction 225 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: with the judicial system, you're only tangentially even thinking about it. 226 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: People tend to gloss over the judicial races, but they 227 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: are critical. 228 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And the issue with why they often will 229 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: get a lot of attention is because of ethics rules. 230 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: They judicial candidates are limited in what they can say 231 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: and you know what they can say in interviews and 232 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: stump speeches, so they often do get overlooked. But yeah, 233 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: they have a tremendous impact on the laws and what 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: people see out there. 235 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, no advisory opinions from judges, that's a violation of 236 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: the rules of ethics. Scott Ortman from the Cincinna in 237 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: Choir my listeners and I be following you on Cinsinni 238 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: dot com and reading what you have to write about it, 239 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: and we'll all keep our popcorn not as we fast 240 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: approach November. 241 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Broan, I appreciate it. 242 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Scott, Take care and have a great day. 243 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: Eight forty one. 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