1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from wor Now the WR Saturday 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Morning Show. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty. Welcome to Saturday Morning. On this week's show, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Scott Jennings, the conservative lion on CNN, has a new 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: book out about Donald Trump called The Revolution of Common Sense. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: He's here to talk about it. Clay Travis also has 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: a new book out about Trump called Balls, How Trump 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Won Men and Democrats Lost Them. Scott Wiener from Scott's 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Pizza Tours tells us about a Brooklyn pizzeria that uncovered 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: a brick oven from over one hundred years ago and 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: now uses it to make pizzas. And Movie Minute host 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: Joe Neumeyer has tips on what to watch this weekend. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: But let's start with CNN senior political contributor Scott Jennings. Scott, 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: it's great to talk to you again. Thanks for being here. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Hey, I really appreciate this conversation. 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: Thank you. Hey. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Listen, something just happened in New York today that is 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: a big deal. You know, Zorin Mamdanni is the mayor elect. 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about him before. Everybody was hoping 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: that Jessica Tish was going to stay on as police 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: commissioner even though they disagree with each other on just 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: about every law enforcement policy. We got the great news 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: today she is staying on. Does that give you some comfort? 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't a short term, but I still think 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: what you said is true. They disagree fundamentally on law enforcement. 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you heard Mamdani repeatedly over the years make 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: disparaging remarks about law enforcement and his views on criminal 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: justice in general. He wants fewer police on the street, 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: but he wants to empty the prisons, and I just 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: think that's fundamentally at odds with what most people would 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: think is a right way to run a criminal justice system. 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: He's also saying this week he'll have the NYPD or 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: as Prime Minister net and Yahoo of Israel if he 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: comes to New York City. So I wonder what will 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: happen when some of these operational things, you know, after 36 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: he takes over, happen. And I hope Tich stays, but 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: I get a feeling she's going to be given orders 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: that she simply can't follow. 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if she's going to be giving orders 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: they gave said they had several meetings, and the fact 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: that she look she doesn't need him, he needs her, 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: and so I got a feeling at least, let me 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: let me enjoy this for a minute, Scott. Let me 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: just feel like, at least the police department's going to 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: be in good hands. 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: I hope you're right, and I pray that you're right. 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: But I also think this guy's got a ton of 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: supporters who aren't interested in the kind of police force 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: that you're interested in, and he's going to be under 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: a huge amount of political pressure from his base to 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: do what they thought he said he was going to do. 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: I hope you're right, and maybe he'll surprise this And 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: certainly politicians have surprised me in the past. I don't 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: think he's going to be one of them, but maybe 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: he'll be right. And hope springs eternal. 56 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what, if she's forced to do 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: anything she doesn't want to do, she's going to leave. 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: I mean, she's from a billionaire family, doesn't she doesn't 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: need this job, And I believe she's going to run 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: for mayor somewhere down the line. 61 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: Look, I'm fearful for New York City. I'm fearful the Jewish, 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: fearful for the Jewish population in New York City. But again, uh, 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna choose to hope for the best, 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: but plan for the worst. I spent a lot of 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: time here now. I'm from Kentucky, but I'm in New 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: York all the time, so these things matter to me 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: more now than they ever have. 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations to you on the new book, A Revolution 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: of common sense. I think I can figure out what 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: you're getting at, But why don't you just explain in. 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: Case, Well, here's what the deal is. I heard the 72 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: President use that phrase in his inaugural address, and I 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: thought to myself, boy, that'd be a great title for 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: a book, and it is the perfect way to explain 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: how he has branded the Republican Party and the conservative 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: movement since he's come on the scene. And I went 77 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: with the President in fact, to Michigan on his hundredth 78 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: day in office, and he said something like to the 79 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: in his speech. You know, whether you're on the right, 80 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: whether you're on the left, or whatever you are, it's 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: just common sense. That's how he thinks of himself. You know, 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: he is a conservative, and he operates mostly as a conservative, 83 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: but more more than that, he just thinks of himself 84 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: as someone who's trying to act on common sense and 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: trying to get to outcomes. And so that's why I 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: wrote the book because I think understanding how he thinks 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: of himself and how he leads is key to understating 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: how our government currently operates. So it's really more of 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: an informational or an educational book. If you want to 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: learn about how Donald Trump leads the government, this book 91 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: has the access and the information for you. 92 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you too. I think that he, 93 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: like many Americans and especially some young men who were 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: left out of every conversation when it came to politics 95 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: or the last administration, they looked at him and what 96 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: he was talking about and just said that made sense. 97 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: That's why he won. He won all the swing states 98 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: and he won the popular vote because of that, and 99 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: he's carrying through with it. 100 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 101 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Look, let's take a few of the issues that 102 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: you know, I called him eighty twenty issues. Maybe they're 103 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: ninety ten or ninety five to five, like boys and 104 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: girls sports, boys and girls' locker rooms. You know, the 105 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: Democrats were dedicated to the idea that we just had. 106 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: To accept that. 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: That's one of a bunch of issues where people thought, well, 108 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: that's not common sense, that's nonsense. And Trump instinctively knew it, 109 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: and he comes along and he latches onto it and says, 110 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do the common sense thing here. That 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: brought in to his coalition a bunch of people who 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: did not think of themselves as Republicans, but they were 113 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: tired of being told they had to accept things that 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: they instinctively knew were nonsense. And so Trump got it. 115 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: That's part of his political talent to sort of seize 116 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: upon those issues, and it really really helped deliver him 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: the presidency the second time. 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of them. The border is the other one. 119 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: What did he do? He closed that on a weekend 120 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: after we're told that couldn't be closed, or at least 121 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: what we were told it was safe, and then we 122 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: were told it was too hard to close. 123 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: We have had effectively zero border crossings in this country 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: for the last five months. I mean, think about that. 125 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: We had hundreds of thousands of people coming in. 126 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: Now we have zero. 127 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: Do you have many laws we've passed since Donald Trump 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: took office on immigration? 129 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: Zero? 130 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: We have not. 131 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: Passed a single new law. 132 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: If you have a president who's willing to enforce existing 133 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: law and tell law enforcement to execute the laws that 134 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: are on the books. That's the only difference. It was 135 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: an attitude change, and it was a change in are 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: we going to follow the law or are we not. 137 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: He's following the law. I don't think it's controversial, frankly 138 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: to follow the law. But the impact has been felt immediately. 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: Zero border crossings. We're also getting rid of some of 140 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: these people here on visas that came here to hate 141 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: America and foment anger against America and the West. I 142 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: think it's been his best accomplishment is getting the immigration 143 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: system under control. 144 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 7: Now. 145 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: We have a lot of internal enforcement left to do, 146 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: but closing the border alone has been one of his 147 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: biggest achievements. 148 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I love the name of your book about 149 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: common sense, because when he stakes a ground in issues 150 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: that we just talked about, on issues like we just 151 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: talked about that makes so much sense. It forces the 152 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: Democrats on the other side of those issues, and they 153 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: take debit every single time. Scott. 154 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: One of the dumbest things they do is reflexively oppose 155 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: Donald Trump no matter what he does. They never stop 156 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: to say, well, wait a minute, would this put us 157 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: in a bad position. If we oppose this, they do 158 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: it every single time. Immigration's a great example. He says, well, 159 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: let's close the border, let's not have people coming in, 160 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: and let's get criminal, illegal, violent people out of our country. 161 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 7: And what do they do. 162 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: They send their senators to El Salvador to try to 163 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: retrieve a guy who's at MS thirteen and bring him 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: back to Maryland. The Democrats cannot help themselves. They oppose 165 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: him reflexively. It is their ideology. We believe in nothing 166 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: except opposing Donald Trump at all costs. I think it 167 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: hurts their party and hurts their brand. 168 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: Well, Scott, thanks for spending time with us. We got 169 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: a taste of what the book is all about. A 170 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: revolution of common sense by Scott Jennings. That is worth 171 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: the read. And we'll look for you on CNN. Thanks 172 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: a lot, Scott, thanks a lot. 173 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: It's in bookstores today. Get your copy now, you won't 174 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: regret it up next. 175 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: Have you ever had a pizza made in one hundred 176 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: and thirty five year old oven? No, Well now you can, 177 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: and we'll tell you about it next. 178 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Now, more of the Woor Saturday Morning Show and Larry Mente. 179 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: It was Bury behind the Walls for decades until a 180 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: Brooklyn pizzaia uncovered a coal oven from the eighteen nineties. 181 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: Is it worth going there to have a pizza made 182 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: in that oven? We asked Scott Weener from Scott's Pizza 183 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: Tours if it's worth the trip. First of all, all 184 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: before we get to it, Scott, and thanks for joining us. 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: I understand you're in Montreal right now. Why. 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in Montreal. 187 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 8: I'm judging a pizza competition called pizza Fest two day 188 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 8: competition that ended yesterday, and I've probably eaten one thousand 189 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 8: slices of pizza over the past two days. 190 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: I don't Canada is not known for great pizza, is it? 191 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: Well? 192 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 8: You know what, A lot of places haven't been known 193 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 8: for great pizza, but suddenly are over the past five 194 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 8: to ten years because everybody's watching YouTube videos about how 195 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 8: to make pizza and everybody's finally getting it. So I 196 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 8: gotta tell you, MONTREALI is a serious pizza destination now 197 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 8: that I've spent some time here. 198 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Oh really, so you have a discerning taste? Is there 199 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: some there that's maybe even better than what you could 200 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: get in New York? 201 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 6: It's hard to say better just because oh. 202 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Come on, no, no, don't quality what. 203 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 7: I mean, well, you got a qualit, But listen, I'll 204 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 7: put it this way. There's a place I went to 205 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 7: the other day called Kujenies. Their Grandma Pizza would fit 206 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 7: in exactly with places in New York. There's a place 207 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 7: called Forno Pizza Frankie that is like a temple, uh, 208 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 7: paying homage to the famous pizzerias of New York where 209 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 7: the guy is basically like mimicking all these pizzerias in 210 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 7: New York City and doing a great job. 211 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: So that was great. 212 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 8: And then I had two New York style pizzas in 213 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 8: the competition from a place called Non Solo Pane and 214 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 8: they were I mean, they would be in the top 215 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 8: tier in New York City. So even though there's not 216 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 8: a ton of it here, there are places that really 217 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 8: stick out, which means there is hope and there is 218 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 8: sunlight for Canada. 219 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: It's a very nice way to put it. Before we 220 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: get to Lucky Charlie's, let me ask you a question 221 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: about pizza and how you rank pizza. What makes a 222 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: great pizza in your estimation? 223 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 8: Well, for me, you know, I don't love putting number 224 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 8: rankings on pizzerias, but I do section them off into tiers, 225 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 8: and if it's a top tier pizzeria, then it's got 226 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 8: to be number one, they're paying attention to dough. If 227 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 8: they're not paying attention to dough, it can't be on 228 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 8: that top tier. And I mean it has to be 229 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 8: a well fermented dough that has flavor on its own, 230 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 8: doesn't just rely on toppings. So that's number one. Number two, 231 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 8: it has to be balanced. So whatever you're doing on 232 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 8: top of that dough, it just has to be done mindfully. 233 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 8: And with those two things combined, I think it's not 234 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 8: that difficult to make a great pizza. Although if you 235 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 8: want to make a great pizza seven days a week, 236 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty five days a year, you got 237 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 8: to be focused. 238 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 6: And that's the third piece. It's about focus, balance and 239 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,359 Speaker 6: dough fermentation. 240 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: And with that, we want to talk about Lucky Charlie's 241 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: because there's a piece it's that significantly different because of 242 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: the oven, and especially an oven that back dates back 243 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: to eighteen ninety. 244 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of things. Number One, the age 245 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 6: of the oven does not dictate. 246 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 8: Its greatness of the product the coming out of it, 247 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 8: because If you've got a bad pizza maker on a 248 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 8: great oven, you're gonna. 249 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 6: Get bad pizza. 250 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 8: The pizza's only as good as the pizza maker. But 251 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 8: that oven is truly classic historic. I think the first 252 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 8: time I ever saw it was maybe twelve or thirteen 253 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 8: years ago, when the guy Charlie Verdie, who's the guy 254 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 8: who owns the building, called me up and told me 255 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 8: he had this oven underneath the sidewalk. And now to 256 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 8: see it in the hands of a friend of mine, 257 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 8: Nino Connelio, who's the owner of Lucky Charlie. 258 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 6: He is If you don't know his name, you need 259 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 6: to know it. He's one of the true pizza geniuses. 260 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 8: He's won tons of awards over the past twenty years, 261 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 8: and he's nuts, and those two things combined, you know, 262 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 8: that's like the perfect New York story. He's the guy 263 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 8: worked in the oven. So if you go in there 264 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 8: and eat a pizza, it's only three pizzas. 265 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 6: On the menu. 266 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 8: There's nobody more focused, and there's nobody who cares more 267 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 8: about balance than that guy. 268 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know that you don't like to put a 269 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: number of value on pizzas, but often you rank pizzas 270 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: where does the pizza at Lucky Charlie's rank. 271 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 8: Lucky Charlie's a top tier easily, and it's because it's 272 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 8: a well made crest. The oven, you know, as I said, 273 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 8: the oven does not make the pizza. But the fact 274 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 8: that it's baking in a large it's a bread oven. 275 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 8: It's not meant for pizza. That place used to be 276 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 8: the Jamus scene of bread bakery in the early nineteen hundreds. 277 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 8: It's a dry oven because it's burning anthracite coal, and 278 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 8: anthracite gives you that dry exterior crisp with that even 279 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 8: char you know, it's like the flavor when you're eating 280 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 8: good barbecue. And so that place, to me, it's top tier. 281 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 8: But it's also it's a relic. It's a unicorn. I mean, 282 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 8: besides the pizza, it just has to be a special place. 283 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 8: And you know, unfortunately the oven is below the sidewalk. 284 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 8: You can't see it, but being in the space, you 285 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 8: do get the feeling of it. And if you stand 286 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 8: on the sidewalk out front you could literally feel it 287 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 8: under your feet. 288 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: Are all the pizzas cooked in that oven there? 289 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 8: Every single pizza and a lot of their dishes are 290 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 8: you know? I stood there one day, maybe I don't know. 291 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 8: Four weeks after he opened, I stood there in the 292 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 8: corner and watched them bake. They did seafood dishes out 293 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 8: of that oven, and they were doing these Pizzas's only 294 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 8: three pizzas. 295 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: Out of that oven. 296 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 8: And it's wild to watch because a restaurant and a 297 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 8: bakery are not set up in the same way. So 298 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 8: the space downstairs is bakery set up huge room. The 299 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 8: oven has to be twelve feet deep, which means that 300 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 8: the peel, you know, the shovel that you use to 301 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 8: manipulate the pizzas, has. 302 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 6: To be fourteen feet deep. 303 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 8: So you've got this large, super long peel that you've 304 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 8: got to navigate around this room. It's it's wild. I 305 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 8: wish people could see it down there. They got to 306 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 8: stick a camera down there. 307 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you're a pizza a thie Sinado, you're 308 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: saying you should take a visit the Lucky Charlie's. 309 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, take a visit and go there early, like you know, 310 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 8: I don't know what time they open, four five o'clock. 311 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 6: Get there on the early side. See you can catch Nino. 312 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 6: Ask him a question, challenge him, tell him. 313 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 8: I don't think you really have it of him, and 314 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 8: then he'll say. 315 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 6: You got to trick him, but then he'll show. 316 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: It to you. 317 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: That that's tremendous advice. And I'm just assuming that's a 318 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: great impersonation because I've never heard him talk. 319 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 8: Listen, for anybody out there listening who has ever met 320 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 8: this man, you know, my impersonation is one hundred. 321 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: Percent spot on. Oh thanks so much for your time. 322 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: Scott Waiders Scott's Pizza Tours. Right now, he's enjoying the 323 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: fine pizza in Canada apparently. Is the fine pizza in 324 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Canada really just New York pizza? 325 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 6: It's not, you know, it's they got different tastes up here. 326 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 6: I'll be honest. 327 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 8: There's a lot of classic like local mantre pizza that's 328 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 8: just heavy and a lot of topping. But then they've 329 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 8: got some thinner crust stuff that it does seem like 330 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 8: it's New York based. But it's hard to tell, men, 331 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 8: because really. 332 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 6: Most of this evolution has been in the past few years. 333 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: Scott Wiener from Scott's Pizza Tours. Donald Trump won his 334 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: second term as president with the help of young male voters. 335 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: So how did he win them over? We're gonna ask 336 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: WR host Clay Travis, who has a new book out 337 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: about it. Still to come on Saturday morning, will Wicked 338 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: rule at the box office again? Or can a murder 339 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: mystery topple it? WR Movie Minute host Joe Neumeyer tells 340 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: us coming up back. 341 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Now to the WR Saturday Morning Show with Larry MINTI 342 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: welcome back. 343 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump pulled off a stunning victory in twenty twenty four, 344 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: and it was fueled by mail voters. So why did 345 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: they turn out for Trump in droves? Fox News host 346 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: Clay Travis knows, and he wrote a book about it. Clay, 347 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: it's a real pleasure to have you. Thanks for being here. 348 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: Great to be on with you, guys. We appreciate being 349 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: able to be on your station. But I do think 350 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: it's also coming up on the one year anniversary and 351 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: the celebration of sanity that was the election of President Trump, 352 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: and I've been thinking about not only what the historical 353 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 5: resonance of that win was, but also what it means 354 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: going forward. And that was the impetus behind writing a 355 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: book called Balls and for people out there, Yes, it's 356 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: really I think also a analysis of how Democrats have 357 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: lost men, white, black, Asian Hispanic men overwhelmingly broke Trump, 358 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: and I think it was young men that helped to 359 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: drive that victory. And so this is an examination of that, 360 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: but also an attempt to try and figure out where 361 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 5: we're going from here. 362 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fascinating topic. And definitely the shift of 363 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: men was the thing that drove this election. There was 364 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: a few other factors, but that was a major factor 365 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: that everybody noticed. And you're digging into it, but you 366 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: take an interesting tact with this and talk about how 367 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: sports plays into that's please explain. 368 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, so for many people, I would argue the scoreboard 369 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: is the last objective reality that people trust, by which 370 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 5: I mean if you're at a game and uh, there 371 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 5: is a somebody shoots a three pointer and they've got 372 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 5: a foot on the line, everybody in the stands recognizes 373 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: it points to it. We have instant replay review to 374 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 5: try to make sure whether or not a touchdown is 375 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: scored and to make sure that the officiating gets the 376 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: right call. And no one starts with more points on 377 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: the scoreboard because of their race, or their gender, or 378 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 5: their socioeconomic status. And we're all equal within the rules 379 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: of the sport and sports is the ultimate meritocracy. And 380 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 5: what I started to see happen was they tried to 381 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: bring identity politics to sports, and for many people, that 382 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: crystallized in twenty twenty two when Leah Thomas, a man 383 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: who swam on the University of Pennsylvania men's team, decided 384 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: to switch to become a woman and then won a 385 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 5: women's NCAA title in the spring of twenty twenty two 386 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 5: while wearing a women's swimsuit and pretending to be a woman, 387 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 5: and then ESPN ran a laudatory proclamation of Lea Thomas 388 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 5: as a hero of women's sports. Leah Thomas reportedly himself 389 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 5: started to say that he was the Jackie Robinson of 390 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: women's sports. And so all of this, I think men 391 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 5: in particular just no, It's one thing if you want 392 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 5: to dress up like a woman and argue that you 393 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 5: are a woman. It's another thing entirely when you have 394 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 5: men starting to win women's championships. And so I think 395 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: you certainly saw this with bud Light as well, But 396 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: there is now a pushback culturally, I think against the 397 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: trans insanity. 398 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't it go beyond that too. I completely agree 399 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: with you, but it goes beyond that, the entire culture 400 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: wars seem to exclude men. Everything was about some other 401 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: demographic and men were excluded, and they wanted to be 402 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: part of things again, and they saw the Republican Party 403 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: and they saw Donald Trump as a way of being recognized. 404 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: No, I think that's one hundred percent true. I mean, look, 405 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 5: the concept of toxic masculinity is identity politics being defined 406 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 5: as you are wrong and there is something the matter 407 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: with you because of your male And I happen to 408 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: think a lot about this through the prism of my boys, 409 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: because I have three sons, and one of my sons, 410 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 5: early in the process of the writing of this book, 411 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 5: or the germination of the idea that became this book, 412 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 5: we were going into a target and we walked in, 413 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: and this is in the book, but he pointed to 414 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: the of the target and he said, Dad, they would 415 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 5: never make those for us. And I wasn't really paying attention. 416 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 5: You know, we're going into target. They were interested in 417 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: sports cards at the time, and the shirts at the 418 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: front of the store all said girl power. And he 419 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 5: said they would never make shirts that said boy power. 420 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 5: And I do think for young men, for those of 421 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 5: us who grew up in an era where hey, women 422 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 5: should be able to do everything that men could do. 423 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: Be doctors, be lawyers, engineers, everything. People say, yeah, you know, 424 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 5: the sexiest should have equal opportunities to be excellent in 425 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 5: whatever their chosen profession is. But you don't have to 426 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: tear down men to elevate women. That was the step beyond. 427 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: And another one of the aspects of this One of 428 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 5: my kids had a friend over and he said, hey, 429 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 5: you know, mister Clay, we're being taught right now that 430 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 5: white men are the cause of so many things that 431 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: are wrong in the country, and that we have all 432 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: this power. And he said, mister Clay, my mom doesn't 433 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 5: even let me pick what I get to have for dinner. 434 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 5: What power are my teachers talking about? And you know, 435 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 5: it's a funny story, but it's also kind of emblematic 436 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: of the world that these young men grew up in 437 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: and are growing up in now, where they're being told 438 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 5: there's something wrong with being male and being. 439 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Manly, and they wanted men to act more feminine many 440 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: in many cases. 441 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 5: So we tried to create a world where men act 442 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 5: more feminized and women act more masculine, and then we 443 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 5: act surprised that the two sexes are not getting along. 444 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 5: Most women don't want effeminate men, and most men certainly 445 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 5: don't want masculine women. And yet this androgynous saneness seems 446 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 5: to be driving much of this on the left, and 447 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: I think many people out there are pushing back and saying, no, 448 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: this is not going to be acceptable. 449 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: Well, Clay, it's a fascinating conversation. I'm sure it's a 450 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: fascinating book. The book is named Balls, How Trump one 451 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: Men and Democrats lost them. It's available now and you 452 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: can listen to Clay again along with Buck Sexton from 453 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 2: noon to three right here on WOR. Thanks for your time, 454 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Clay, good talking to you. 455 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 5: Appreciate you'all having me. 456 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a good movie? Murder Mystery wr 457 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: host Joe Newmyer has got one for you. 458 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Next here again is Larry Menti with the WOR Saturday 459 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: Morning Show. 460 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: It's the holiday long weekend and you have plenty of 461 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: time to get out and catch a movie. So what's 462 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: on the menu. Let's ask Joe Newmyer Movie Minute host 463 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: at WOR. 464 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: There's a really good film out the Obviously we all 465 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: know the previous two films so I want to still 466 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 4: give it a good shout out. It's called Wake Up, 467 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: dead Man. It's the Knives Out movie. It's the third 468 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 4: and the Knives Out movie series that have been done 469 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: with Daniel Craig as the Louisiana detective Beno a Brong. 470 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: He's got this great, crazy kind of southern drawl. And 471 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 4: this one is just as good as the other two. 472 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: I think these movies keep getting better. The first one's 473 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: Knives Out, came out in twenty nineteen, kind of set 474 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 4: people going on like, oh right. These are original mystery 475 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: movies that the writer director Ryan Johnson has done. They're 476 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: sort of in the style of The Great Egg. It's 477 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 4: the Christie mysteries, right like on the Oran Express or 478 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: Death Found the Nile, which are both favorites of minds 479 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: in the seventies. 480 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 6: I love those. 481 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: Well, these movies are really just as good. They sort 482 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 4: of are. They're like little mouse traps that you have 483 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: to figure out. And in this one, Daniel Craig's detective 484 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 4: Bloc goes to an upstate New York little upstate New 485 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: York town. There's been a murder in a church and 486 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 4: there's been a monsignor who's played by Josh Brolin. This 487 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: is not a This is all obviously all in the trailer. 488 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm not getting anything away Josh Brolin, and he's been 489 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: killed inside of like a secret room inside of the church. 490 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: And of course like there's a whole group of suspects 491 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: that he's got to figure out who did it? Was 492 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: it Jeremy Renner, was it Glenn Close? Was it Josh 493 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: O'Connor and Mila Kunis. So it's all these great characters 494 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: around and in the middle of it is this sort 495 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: of great cozy sort of space that sort of feel 496 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: like you're inside of an Agasa Christie mystery. And the 497 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: last one Glass On You, and I thought was really good. 498 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: That was twenty twenty two. This one is just as good. 499 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 4: I'm giving you a solid three stars. It's hard to 500 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: get to a four star. I'm almost at four stars 501 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 4: on this one. I mean I probably probably should have 502 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: given it. Yeah, I should have given it that one 503 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: extra star just for maybe what's maybe missing is originality. 504 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 4: I think I gave the First Knives Out four stars. 505 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: But it's a great mystery for the family if you 506 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: want to kind of figure things out. It's kind of 507 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: like those kind of cozy mystery things. This one is 508 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: just right up there. So wake Up dead Man. 509 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Now, if you haven't seen the first two, If you 510 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: haven't seen the first two, does this still make sense? 511 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: You can go watch this rush? 512 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally makes sense. None of the care. This is 513 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: something that people have often asked me. They're like, do 514 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: characters show up from the previous movies like this Jamie 515 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: Lee Curtis show up because she was in the first one. No, like, 516 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: there's there's no recurring characters in any of these, which 517 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: I think is sort of a smart touch. It's really 518 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: just a Daniel Craig character, and he's just this detective 519 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: who shows up and figures it out. And I think 520 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: that that adds to it. It kind of keeps each 521 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: one sort of individual and distinct. And I just really 522 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: I just think these movies are really smart. They're fun mysteries, 523 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: and how often do we see something original at the movies? 524 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 7: Right? 525 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 4: It's not. These are not based on any previous existing 526 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: books or anything or TV shows. They're just wholly original 527 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 4: things that he wanted to write. So three, you know, 528 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: enthusiastic stars for for Wake Up dead Man, The Knives 529 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: Out movie, really good, really. 530 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: Now, why do I believe that Wicked for Good is 531 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: still going to dominate at the box office. 532 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 4: It's probably because if it's almost Landmark backs office weekend 533 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: last weekend, right, I mean it was. I think it's 534 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: the second biggest of the year after the Minecraft movie, 535 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: the biggest musical I think since Chicago. I'm not sure 536 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: if Chicago's opening weekend beat it, but it's I mean, 537 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: Wicked for Good is the is a juggernaut for at 538 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: least another two weeks and good for families, great to 539 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: see before the holiday, greasy on the holiday, and I 540 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 4: think that it's people have made an event out of this. 541 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: If you've been at a movie theater since it opened, 542 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: like it's filled with kids all dressed up and everything 543 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: like that. So you know, that's great to see people 544 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: going back to the box It's been a tough year 545 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: at the box office. Great to see people going to 546 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: the multiplex and having a good time like that. 547 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Is there a smaller movie out there, because a lot 548 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: of times some great movies get released this time of 549 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: year that nobody gets to say because the bigger movies 550 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: take over. Is there a smaller movie out there that 551 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: you would recommend? 552 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one called Train Dreams that's really good that's 553 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 4: also actually just started on Netflix, so I would really 554 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: recommend it. There's actually two of them, so that I 555 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 4: would recommend, but I would recommend it on the big screen. 556 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: Train Dreams it's a really interesting and lyrical movie about 557 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: a guy who started in the as a logger and 558 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: working on trains in like the nineteen twenties, and it 559 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: kind of his life kind of goes on through the sixties. 560 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 4: It's really interesting. Then there's one called Rental Family that's 561 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: really kind of nice with Brendan Frasier, where he plays 562 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: an American actor in Japan who's hired to sort of 563 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 4: be an extra at things like weddings or funerals or 564 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: things like that. This is actually a real thing in 565 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: Japan too, that so to kind of make people kind 566 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 4: of feel that they've got a big crowd at these things, 567 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: and he kind of gets involved in people's lives. So 568 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: Rental Family is really sweet, and Train Dreams is really 569 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: kind of a beautiful piece of art. That all of 570 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 4: those are are really good. And then of course it's 571 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving movies that we all have to watch on Thanksgiving, right, 572 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 4: like Planes, Trains, in audible. 573 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stole my only one I was gonna say 574 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: that was that that's by far the best Thanksgiving movie, 575 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: I believe. 576 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: I totally agree. And you know, there's this great documentary 577 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: out now about John Candy, and you know that sort 578 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: of adds to it. When you see that documentary and 579 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: you watch planes, trains and automobiles. He just like that 580 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: that The energy between him and Steve Martin is funny, 581 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: it's sweet. It's John Hughes best film, if you ask me. 582 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: It's one of the great films in the late eighties 583 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: that came out in eighty seven. Such a great a 584 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: great Thanksgiving movie. Another one I throw I want to 585 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 4: throw out there though it's just people forget about it. 586 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: It's Sentible Woman. Remember Sensible Woman, the movie that got 587 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 4: al Pacino the Oscar after you know, like six nominations 588 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 4: he finally won for that. That's also it's about, you know, 589 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: the student taking around a crane blinde lieutenant colonel around 590 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 4: New York on Thanksgiving. So that's also a great. 591 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: Another one of my favorite movies. I will if that 592 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: monologue that Pacino does at the end of that movie 593 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: is on, I stay and watch it every single time, 594 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: I thought that was genius. Did he win Best Actor 595 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: for that? He did? 596 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: He won Best Actor for that. He's been nominated about 597 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 4: nine times and like three or four times since then. 598 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 4: But up until that time, he had been nominated like 599 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 4: six times, including for both Godfather films and Dog Day 600 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: Afternoon and a few other things, and oddly enough Dick Tracy. 601 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 4: He's fun in Dick Tracy. But he got an Oscar 602 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: nomination for that, so that was like his sixth nomination 603 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: and he finally won yet, and he's terrific. And even 604 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: the scene where he teaches the girl to dance, where 605 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: dances a tango with her, you know, that's a great 606 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: actors moment, right, So that's also a great Thanksgiving movie 607 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: and a New York movie too, which is also true. 608 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: The whole movie was, just from beginning to end, is 609 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: a perfect movie. I love Sat of a Woman. As 610 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I'll put that ahead of planes, trains, and. 611 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: Automobiles, well only for the plains trains. I feel like 612 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: it's sort of the easy one to go to writer, 613 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: or it's on all the time. It's not like twenty first, 614 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: kind of like a Christmas story. You gotta can't turn 615 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 4: on the TV on Thanksgiving without finding it on. And 616 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 4: I also just want to throw one in there for 617 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 4: Miracle on thirty four Street. 618 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: People. 619 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: Fore, it's obviously a Christmas movie, but it begins at 620 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving day for the original of course, in nineteen 621 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: forty seven Black and White Miracle on thirty fourth Street. 622 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, it does start in the Thanksgiving You're 623 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: absolutely right. I forgot all about that, right right. 624 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: Santon's brunk at the parade, so she has to find 625 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: a new Santa, and she actually finds the Santa to 626 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: be well, that's a great bil. 627 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: Enjoy the movies and as always, we just appreciate you 628 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: so much. Thanks so much, Joe Neumeyer, film journalist and 629 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: wo R movie Minute host. That wraps up Saturday Morning 630 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: for this week. Thanks for listening, and thanks to Peter 631 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 2: Arolano for putting the show together every week. Have a 632 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: great rest of your weekend. This has been a podcast 633 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: from WOOR