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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: It's Skyline Time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Thursday. Welcome into the latest edition of

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Speaker 2: Cincy three sixty. You are listening on the Home of

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Speaker 2: talkback and we'll get to those talkbacks today. Midway through

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Speaker 2: our number two of the show. Our number three of

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Speaker 2: the show, we'll get started with our guy Keegan nickoson

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Speaker 2: covering the Bearcats for Bearcat Journal dot Com, and a

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Speaker 2: heck of a lot more along the way, including your

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Speaker 2: phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen. It

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Speaker 2: feels like back to a sense of normalcy here today.

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Speaker 2: MOA's back, which means Austin is back here on Sincy

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Speaker 2: three sixty.

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Speaker 3: What up? What up? Dough Man? What up?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 2: You could tell Austin that we are in the early

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Speaker 2: stages of red season, because the Reds are three and

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Speaker 2: three and already the talk sweeping the iHeart sales room

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Speaker 2: this morning and early afternoon has been college football win totals.

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Speaker 2: A lot of college football win totals. Is that what

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Speaker 2: you guys were talking about. It's what they were talking about.

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Speaker 2: UC's win total five and a half, Ohio State's win

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Speaker 2: total nine and a half. You could tell we're on

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Speaker 2: an early Reds off day after a disappointing series against

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates. When we're talking college football win totals on.

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Speaker 5: April second, somebody over there did say to me yesterday

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Speaker 5: or said to me earlier this morning, did the Reds

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Speaker 5: come crashing back down to Earth?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: And I said, did they ever leave? They scored six

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Speaker 5: runs in one game, and that's the most that they've scored.

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Speaker 5: It's not like they were the hottest team in baseball

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Speaker 5: by any stretch of the imagination. What about their defense,

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Speaker 5: though their defense is a little bit misleading, I think.

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Speaker 5: What about their pitching because you know, through the first

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Speaker 5: six games, they have zero errors, but they probably have two,

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Speaker 5: maybe three that they should have been considered errors. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's how I feel about them. That's how they've performed.

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Speaker 5: All right, Eh, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Now the Reds maybe coming back down to Earth. Artemis

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Speaker 2: two Austin is preparing for its final final major engine firing.

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Speaker 3: To put it on course for the Moon. That's right.

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Speaker 5: There's still what two hundred and thirty five thousand miles

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Speaker 5: away from the Moon, but they're forty thousand miles away

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Speaker 5: from us here on a planet Earth. Pretty crazy. And

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Speaker 5: you told me a great story that I would love

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Speaker 5: for you to tell our listeners about how you apparently

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Speaker 5: had no idea what was going on or that we

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Speaker 5: were sending people back to the Moon. And what I've

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Speaker 5: learned over the course of the last couple of days

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Speaker 5: is that you were not alone in this. Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: you had a moment of all I can describe it

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Speaker 5: is beautiful social interaction.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about that. Well, here's the thing. There are

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Speaker 2: times that I'm in a mood to conversate, and then

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Speaker 2: there are times where I'm just kind of ready.

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Speaker 3: To be done. Did you say conversation? Conversate? Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: what I just used. Now I write that one down.

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Speaker 2: I'm very focused on the task at hand on a

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Speaker 2: daily basis, which is talking about sports. So hand up yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know we were going to the moon.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. And we have a coworker as

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Speaker 2: I was leaving yesterday, and like it was one of

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Speaker 3: Hold the door.

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Speaker 2: So then you hold the door, you open it back

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Speaker 2: up which floor And on the way down, this coworker says,

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Speaker 2: are you going to watch Artemis tonight? And now to me,

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Speaker 2: now I'm in a predicament because now I don't know

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Speaker 2: So I went to and often used tactic, and I

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Speaker 3: To me often used tactic.

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Speaker 2: Well, for me, for whatever reason, I would argue that

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Speaker 2: So I said, to the question of are you going

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Speaker 2: so we'll see how they're doing. And it was kind

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Speaker 2: because of how dumb I sounded. Yeah, And I got

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Speaker 2: privy to the idea that Artemis was actually the space

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a rocket launch. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what you would describe the capsule.

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Speaker 5: That's I thought in my mind. Yes, I said that.

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Speaker 5: This poor guy in the elevator with me, use I'm

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Speaker 5: trying to shield my kids from watching the shuttle launch, yeah,

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Speaker 5: which is probably the exact opposite of what you should

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Speaker 5: out in NASA gear. And he's asked, why are you

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Speaker 5: so excited about this? And he said, we're going to

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Speaker 5: the EF and Moon. And the kid was probably what

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Speaker 5: twelve years old something along those lines. Yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 5: I've watched it a thousand times. It's my favorite thing ever.

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Speaker 5: But this just goes to show I mean, sometimes it's

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Speaker 5: okay to just say, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: What's hard to miss?

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Speaker 5: Now, in your defense, I didn't find out until about

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Speaker 5: twenty four hours before the launch that it was happening.

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Speaker 3: Yep, had no idea, and that is a hand up.

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Speaker 3: Not my best moment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that. I just hope it's something you

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Speaker 5: Especially Here's why I don't mind it on an elevator.

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Speaker 5: You're not going to be on there that long. This

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Speaker 5: the opportunity if you don't want to converse, or you

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Speaker 5: of that pretty quickly. Yeah, I just I thought I

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Speaker 5: of my mind, you know what yesterday was was April first,

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Speaker 5: and I thought maybe I could be setting myself up here.

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Speaker 5: Do you was I kept it, I kept it on

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Speaker 5: the straight and narrow. Would you go to space?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I think I would do it. I have a hard

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Speaker 5: time going to the top of the hill on the beast.

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Speaker 5: I would hate everything about the process. I would hate

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Speaker 5: the whole load up in the capsule and the rockets, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's six to six be a great

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Speaker 5: idea anyway to move around. I wouldn't like going up,

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Speaker 5: I read that these guys are going to be coming

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Speaker 5: which is faster than any human has ever traveled before.

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Speaker 5: I'm good breaking records, man, I'm good. Speaking of April fools,

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Speaker 5: did you see what happened at the Wizards game last night?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: So the Washington Wizards, as of right now in the

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Speaker 3: Socially horrible team. They're awful.

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Speaker 2: There's like a week and a half left in the

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Speaker 2: bring him to half court and they blindfold him. And

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Speaker 2: the contest is, if you make the half court shot blindfolded,

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Speaker 2: you're walking away with ten grand. Okay, So they blindfold him,

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Speaker 2: he shoots it, and they all go nuts mascots.

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Speaker 3: On the court.

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Speaker 2: They tackle him. They present him with a ten thousand

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Speaker 2: you're still gonna walk away with a sign jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, listen, this guy's coming to watch your

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Speaker 5: I feel like you have to like you're trying to

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Speaker 5: go viral on social media, like you know, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: It's a great April Fool's Day bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I did see that. Paul Papst who's the great producer

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Speaker 5: joke because that's a great Yeah. Also, you got to

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Speaker 2: They said they're going to give him a sign jersey

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Speaker 2: instead and tickets to a game next year for his troubles.

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Speaker 5: The other thing though, like it is only ten thousand

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Speaker 2: Speaking of basketball, what about rapper J Cole? I thought

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Speaker 2: the Guangdong Tigers. He's playing with the Monkey Kings. Now

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Speaker 2: the case. J Cole is going to be playing Chinese basketball.

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Speaker 2: So shout out to j Cole. Okay Cool just released

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Speaker 2: go hoop other hoop news. Uh, Bill Self is officially

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Speaker 2: coming back to Kansas, so Big twelve News, Jared Who

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Speaker 2: and obviously the new coach at UC Kelvin Samson. There

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Speaker 2: was some speculation on would he continue He's coming back

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Speaker 2: to Houston, obviously, there was speculation around Bill self. Bill

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Speaker 3: He looks, here's the bitch. India Rockets is high in

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Speaker 7: Younger, wherever you are, it's time to party.

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Speaker 5: Twenty five biggins man? How about that twenty five racks?

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Speaker 5: his greatness, he found ways to overcome that. But still

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Speaker 5: the Reds need to be able to on a day

436
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Speaker 5: where he doesn't have his best stuff, be able to

437
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Speaker 5: pounce on that. You are going to face good pitchers

438
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Speaker 5: no matter what, and there are a lot of them

439
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Speaker 5: in this division and there are a lot of them

440
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Speaker 5: in the National League. There's got to be ways that

441
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Speaker 5: this team can overcome and find ways to scratch across

442
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Speaker 5: runs or forced pitchers out of the game more than

443
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Speaker 5: just five innings.

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Speaker 3: Paul Skin shut us down.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing, because there's a moment a couple

446
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Speaker 2: of years ago where the Reds were just in this

447
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Speaker 2: role of comebacks and the winning streak, and it felt

448
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Speaker 2: like in that run that a three or four run

449
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Speaker 2: deficit they could easily come back from that. The offense

450
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Speaker 2: that I watched a majority of last year and through

451
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Speaker 2: six games this year, That's my concern is I just

452
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Speaker 2: don't know if the way this offense is built against

453
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Speaker 2: the Paul Skins, can you put together three consecutive singles.

454
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Speaker 2: Because I watched one player yesterday in the batter's box

455
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Speaker 2: that I thought battled his tail off, and it was

456
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Speaker 2: South Stuart. Even on the about where he grounded out,

457
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Speaker 2: he was locked in. He's shaking his head, he's he's

458
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Speaker 2: essentially saying to himself, You're not gonna fool me. He

459
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Speaker 2: looked at some good pitches that were off out of

460
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Speaker 2: the zone. He fouled off pitches that he couldn't get

461
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Speaker 2: around to. But I thought, in that moment, I'm like, man,

462
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Speaker 2: South Stuart is battling his tailoff.

463
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Speaker 5: You could tell who could see the ball better than others.

464
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Speaker 5: I thought Friedo could see it. I drew two walks

465
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Speaker 5: from Skins and Freedol's not a thread at all, especially

466
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Speaker 5: the way he swung the bat. To this point, I

467
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Speaker 5: think Stuart's just a little bit more outgoing. I think

468
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Speaker 5: a lot of those conversations are happening internally for everybody,

469
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Speaker 5: but he's.

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Speaker 3: Just you can from him.

471
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But you know there are guys like Matt McClain

472
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Speaker 5: where it felt like he didn't see the fast ball once.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Skens just threw it right by him.

474
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Speaker 5: But like to go back to my point, like Andrew

475
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Speaker 5: Rabbits said after the game, he felt like he made

476
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Speaker 5: one bad pitch and that one bad pitch was thirteen

477
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Speaker 5: rows up in the right field seats and a three

478
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Speaker 5: run homer. The Red's got to be able to do that, yeah,

479
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Speaker 5: which yesterday Skeins made one bad pitch and Nathaniel low

480
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Speaker 5: hammered it in the gap for a double and scored

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Speaker 5: a run.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

483
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Speaker 2: And yesterday they did get that one mistake when Montgomery

484
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Speaker 2: threw the pitch the curve ball to e Heniosuarez, and

485
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Speaker 2: Suarez made him pay. Do they have enough guys in

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Speaker 2: their lineup that can do that? And again it goes

487
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Speaker 2: back to the conversation of early returns, right we similar

488
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Speaker 2: to spring training conversation how much can you draw? How

489
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Speaker 2: much can you gather from six games for a lot

490
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Speaker 2: of these players, and where those concern levels sit with

491
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Speaker 2: what they were able to do last year, what they

492
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Speaker 2: did in spring training and gathering more information on who

493
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Speaker 2: the players are, I think is a conversation worth having

494
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Speaker 2: here in our number one the game itself, as we mentioned,

495
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Speaker 2: and we were on the air for yesterday Onil Cruz

496
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Speaker 2: hit a first inning, three run home run, his third

497
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Speaker 2: home run of the series against the Cincinnati Reds. After

498
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Speaker 2: that mentioned the Nathaniel Lowe doubled the center and then

499
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Speaker 2: in the sixth, unfortunately, as we've seen many times Austin

500
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Speaker 2: a pitcher come out of the bullpen and an inability

501
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Speaker 2: to throw strikes, Connor Phillips came in, threw eight of

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Speaker 2: nine pitches out of the zone and walked in a

503
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Speaker 2: batter that made it for to one. And then you

504
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Speaker 2: thought when you went into the bottom of the six

505
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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, they only kept Paul Skins out there

506
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Speaker 2: for five innings yesterday, and as soon as Paul Skins

507
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Speaker 2: came out, Suarez hits the home run and it's four

508
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Speaker 2: to three, and you think, okay, one run deficit. Now

509
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Speaker 2: you're into the Pittsburgh Pirates bullpen. This might get interesting.

510
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for the Reds that went in the other direction,

511
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Speaker 2: they only got one hit the rest of the way,

512
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Speaker 2: and Amelio Pagan was not able to fool anyone in

513
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Speaker 2: his appearance in the ninth yesterday, one inning, three hits,

514
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Speaker 2: four armed runs, for Emelio Pagan and the Pirates run

515
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Speaker 2: away with it eight to three. They also run away

516
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Speaker 2: with the series after the Reds took Game one. Pitching wise,

517
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Speaker 2: too early to have concerns with Amelio pagon No, too

518
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Speaker 2: early to have concerns with guys that can't throw strikes

519
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Speaker 2: out of the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Connor Phillips.

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Speaker 5: Two outings ago, you felt like this dude could maybe

522
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Speaker 5: take that job from Emilio Pagan, and then ever since then,

523
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Speaker 5: he's come in and walked the first two batters he's

524
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Speaker 5: faced on each of his outings. I think Graham Ashcraft

525
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Speaker 5: has turned around, bakes really good, looks nasty. His vlo

526
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Speaker 5: is coming up quite a bit, which is a good thing.

527
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Speaker 5: Tony Santien is starting to look more like himself and

528
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Speaker 5: scatter that fastball a little bit less. But I don't

529
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Speaker 5: feel confident in anybody in the bullpen. Pierce Johnson's been

530
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Speaker 5: tagged up a little bit to Gon's not fooling anybody.

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Speaker 5: I think Siam Mal has been okay. I think brock

532
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Speaker 5: Burk's been okay. But you don't really have an overwhelming

533
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Speaker 5: amount of confidence in that group right now, which is

534
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Speaker 5: a shame. Because that's where they spend a lot of money.

535
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Speaker 2: Let's grab a break, let's come back, let's uh, let's

536
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Speaker 2: catch up with your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,

537
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, and let's talk about a couple of the

538
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Speaker 2: players and maybe some early decisions this season that the

539
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Speaker 2: Reds are going to have to make based on their

540
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Speaker 2: lineup and what they're able to do or not do.

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Speaker 2: It all happens here and No our number one since

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Speaker 2: he three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chile on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: When all right, welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back, Cincy three sixty thanks to Skyline Chili, ESPN fifteen

546
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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll get back to the Reds

547
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Speaker 2: and in just a moment, Austin, but because we have

548
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Speaker 2: some Bengals news to get to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Bengals have made two signings today to I don't

550
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Speaker 5: know that bolster is the word depth? Yes, depth, Depth

551
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Speaker 5: is the thing.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: Zach Taylor spoke at the NFL annual meetings the other

554
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Speaker 5: day and said, you know, our depth is it's never

555
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Speaker 5: going to be perfect. And that statement pissed me off

556
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Speaker 5: because who do you know that's been talking about depth

557
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Speaker 5: for a while. Your depth should be a priority for

558
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Speaker 5: this football team because injuries have bitten them. It's difficult

559
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Speaker 5: to withstand sure some stuff in the NFL for for

560
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Speaker 5: many many years. But anyways, I always thought Marvin Lewis

561
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Speaker 5: was really good at improving the bottom of the roster. Well,

562
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Speaker 5: the Bengals have done that. They've added a cornerback and

563
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Speaker 5: a safety today. Earlier this morning, they signed free agent

564
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Speaker 5: cornerback just Sir Taylor. Sir just Sir is a five

565
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Speaker 5: foot ten one and eighty five pound corner. I think

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Speaker 5: he'd played more of a nickel, but he didn't play

567
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Speaker 5: a lot of defensive snaps. More of a special teamer.

568
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Speaker 5: Twenty one tackles on special teams. He's played for the

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Speaker 5: Chargers and the Jets. And during the commercial break, why

570
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Speaker 5: right as we were going to break, Adam Schefter of

571
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Speaker 5: ESPN reports that, according to agent Drew Rosenhouse, former Steelers

572
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Speaker 5: and Patriot safety Kyle Duggar has signed a one year

573
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Speaker 5: deal with the Cincinnati Bengals. This is a name that

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Speaker 5: we talked about last year as a potential fit to

575
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Speaker 5: come in and replace Geno Stone. Well, he ended up

576
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Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh. He had forty two tackles and two picks

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Speaker 5: last year. I think he was just okay, maybe slightly

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Speaker 5: below average, not the best. Yeah, I think moving forward,

579
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Speaker 5: by the way, just with everything that's going on with PFF,

580
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Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm ever going to reference them again. Sure,

581
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Speaker 5: but the stuff from last year is still accurate, I

582
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Speaker 5: would say. But yeah, so depth at that position. I

583
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Speaker 5: just talked to Paul Danner Junior on Most Show yesterday

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Speaker 5: about why did they let Tyson Anderson go? Well, just

585
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Speaker 5: sir Taylor might be the replacement to Tyson Anderson on

586
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Speaker 5: special team Eames and Kyle Duggar looks to provide good

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Speaker 5: safety depth for a room that definitely needs it.

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Speaker 2: Before he went to the Steelers, there was a moment

589
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Speaker 2: I believe the Patriots used a thirteen point eight million

590
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Speaker 2: dollar franchise tag on him in twenty twenty four, used

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Speaker 2: him as a strong safety also a little bit of

592
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Speaker 2: a hybrid linebacker that can come down in the box

593
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Speaker 2: as well. So keep that in mind for what Al

594
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Speaker 2: Golden could be looking to do and use again with depth.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this changes anything if Caleb Downs were

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Speaker 2: still to be there at number ten.

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Speaker 3: Well, but it does give you a little bit added depth.

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Speaker 2: And as a thirty year old, a player who has

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Speaker 2: seen a lot in the National Football League and a

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Speaker 2: veteran presence in that.

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Speaker 5: Room, I know we're going to talk a little bit

602
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Speaker 5: about this later. In the way that the Bengals operate.

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Speaker 5: To me, this and knowing how they do things, I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying this is right. This to me takes Caleb

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Speaker 5: Downs off their board. Oh and again I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: I agree with that, but this is what that signifies

607
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Speaker 5: to me. I still think the first two picks for

608
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Speaker 5: the Bengals are going to be edge rusher and corner

609
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: or corner cord corner and edge rusher, flip the order.

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Speaker 5: I think those two are going to be the guys.

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Speaker 5: But this to me kind of pulls up. And we

612
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Speaker 5: also talk a lot about force multipliers. It's easy to

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Speaker 5: make fun of, but that's what they're looking for. And

614
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Speaker 5: a lot of positional versatility as well. Sure, Brian Cook

615
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Speaker 5: can be a versatile player, Jordan Battle can be a

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Speaker 5: versatile player, Kyle Duggar can be a versatile player. I

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Speaker 5: think this is a depth signing that makes sense, if

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Speaker 5: nothing else for the versatility, force multipliers, yeah.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: Our first call today called in yesterday and talked about

621
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Speaker 2: Reese Hines and the potential to be a force multiplier.

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Speaker 3: He's got some force in that bat.

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Speaker 2: And then ree Hines in a Grand Slam and another

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Speaker 2: home run, and yesterday's game, it's our good friend Mark

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Speaker 2: calling in.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Mark.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how's it going? Aside from the possion players, I

628
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Speaker 8: won't go even call in to say anything about resigns,

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Speaker 8: as I already said it. But I remember before the

630
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Speaker 8: season I mentioned for God that they should get another

631
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Speaker 8: guy to close games out. I worry about him when

632
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Speaker 8: he comes in the game and he's facing either the

633
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Speaker 8: top or the middle of the lineup, mainly the middle

634
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Speaker 8: of the lineup. I worry about him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's warranted at this point.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's not one, two three when he faces the

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Speaker 8: middle of that lineup. So I would hope at some

638
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Speaker 8: point during the season they can get somebody else. I

639
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Speaker 8: always believe you need two guys can close games out.

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Speaker 8: I don't think you can really rely on one guy

641
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Speaker 8: because pitchers are just like hitters. They going slumps too, yep,

642
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Speaker 8: and a few bad they can cost you a few

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Speaker 8: bad games. And that makes a difference at the end

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Speaker 8: of the season. So I'll get off and listen to

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Speaker 8: the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that, Mark Austin, Are you again early

647
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Speaker 2: on in the season? Is there a And I think

648
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Speaker 2: part of it too would be well, who would you

649
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Speaker 2: put in that position? But I don't think by any

650
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: stretch Amelio Pagan has slayed it in as a starter

651
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Speaker 2: for the rest or the closer for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the year. But to me, it's who can push him

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Speaker 2: to take that rollover I mentioned I thought it would

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Speaker 2: be Connor Phillips.

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Speaker 3: He struggled a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Who is positioned best to take that spot from Emelio

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Speaker 2: Pagan if the struggles continue.

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Speaker 5: It's probably Tony Santian or Connor Phillips. I do think

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Speaker 5: it's We are at a point in the season through

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Speaker 5: six games and as of today exactly one week, where

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Speaker 5: it is way too early to make declarations about players.

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Speaker 5: But what you can do is start to see trends

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Speaker 5: that emerge. And you know, Amelio Pagan towards the end

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Speaker 5: of last year wasn't somebody that we felt a lot

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Speaker 5: of confidence in. He didn't pitch very much at all

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Speaker 5: in spring training, nor did Tony Santian because of their

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Speaker 5: extreme workload a year ago. So I'm willing to give

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Speaker 5: them a little bit grace that maybe it's going to

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Speaker 5: take them a little bit longer. But to Mark's point,

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Speaker 5: the games in March and April count the same as

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Speaker 5: the ones in September, and you've got to be able

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Speaker 5: to win them, and you can't be throwing those games away.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not like in.

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Speaker 5: Full blown panic mode at the way that the bullpenner's

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Speaker 5: performing right now and they are being asked to do

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Speaker 5: a lot with the state of the starting rotation and

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Speaker 5: all of that, I understand it, but it is just like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: this is a concerning trend. Through the first six games

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Speaker 5: of the season.

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Speaker 2: Since his debut in twenty seventeen, Emilio Pagan has allowed

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Speaker 2: eighty seven home runs. That is twenty one more than

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Speaker 2: any other relief pitcher in that time frame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and.

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Speaker 5: Okay, wait, I got an idea closer at home, Tony Santian,

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Speaker 5: closer on the road, Amelio Pagan. Ok He's maybe he's

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Speaker 5: just too much of a fly ball pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, twenty one more home run given up

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Speaker 2: than any other relief pitcher since twenty seventeen is a

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Speaker 2: wide margin.

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Speaker 3: And it should be twenty two.

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Speaker 5: Noelvie March has saved Hissass last year against Brian Reynolds's right, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, we'll break, We'll come back. We'll grab a call

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Speaker 3: or two.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up our number one and let's get a

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Speaker 2: gauge on some temperatures around some players on this Reds

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Speaker 2: team early on in the season.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more Cincinnati Bengals, even maybe a little college

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Speaker 2: football today as well. We'll catch up with Keith and

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Speaker 9: Temperatures reach eighty again for our Friday, but showers and

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Speaker 2: the top of the show, The Washington Wizards have issued

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Speaker 2: an apology. We apologize for last night's April Fool's joke

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Speaker 2: that left Money Money wondering if we had misled a fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the skit involving our mask ot and other members of

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Speaker 2: All participants were in on the joke, but we missed

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Speaker 2: to be committed to providing a positive experience to all

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Speaker 2: who attend our games. I knew that had to be

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Speaker 2: a bit point where we got to apologize for April

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Speaker 2: fools jokes.

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Speaker 3: Now, yes, where have you been? Man?

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Speaker 5: This is going on like ten years of this sort

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Speaker 5: of Stuffredible people are sensitive, man, I get it, man,

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Speaker 5: you got to watch out everywhere you're at now. I

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Speaker 5: used to love April Fool's Day and now I hate it.

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Speaker 5: I mean I I retweeted something yesterday that I agree

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Speaker 5: with that you know, in the uh, in the midst

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Speaker 5: of the misinformation epidemic. Oh, April Fools doesn't really hit

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Speaker 5: the same Nope, not anymore. A couple of phone calls

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Speaker 5: to finish up the hour, Brian, what's.

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Speaker 8: Up, hey, guys?

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Speaker 9: Up?

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Speaker 10: And again you guys. I just want to say one

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Speaker 10: thing man about you guys? Is it Tony? I love

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Speaker 10: your perspective a lot on a lot of these issues,

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Speaker 10: you know, especially that you being a quarterback at you

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Speaker 10: see you seem to draw a lot of your experiences

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Speaker 10: from you know, your expansions as a ball player here Austin.

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Speaker 10: I love the way you are brutally honest. I think

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Speaker 10: I would put you in the category of a Marty brennanan.

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Speaker 10: I think you need to be in the room. Oh

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Speaker 10: I think huh.

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Speaker 3: I like, that's that's very kind, thank you.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's what I mean. I'm serious, man, because

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Speaker 10: you asked the tough questions now, I think you need

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Speaker 10: to be in the room, Like in the press conferences

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Speaker 10: after the Bengals game, asking the corner of the coaches

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Speaker 10: the real questions, man, because I think they throw a

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Speaker 10: lot of topfalls up there, and Zach Taylor is you

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Speaker 10: know he I don't know, man. But anyway, what I

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Speaker 10: wanted to talk about was the Cincinnati Reds. I think

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Speaker 10: the problem with the Reds is, man, they put their

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Speaker 10: closers in bad positions because it's a lot of pressure

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Speaker 10: on them because they're always trying to come back. It's

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Speaker 10: very few, it seems like it's very few games. I mean,

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Speaker 10: it may have been more last year where they came

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Speaker 10: in to close while the Reds were winning. The Reds

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Speaker 10: are usually it looks like here lately, it looks like,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's not coming in to shut down the game.

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Speaker 10: It's it's making sure that nobody scores any more runs.

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Speaker 10: And I think that it puts a lot of pressure

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Speaker 10: on these on these pictures, it's definitely as we see,

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Speaker 10: you know, Pegne shuggling right now. But the Ranch problem is, man,

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Speaker 10: everybody is swinging for defenses that sometimes you need to

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Speaker 10: sharden up your swing. You need to be able to

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Speaker 10: hit in situational you know, situational hitting, positional hitting, hitting

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Speaker 10: the ball in certain places to give your you know,

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Speaker 10: give your team the advantage when you're trying to come back.

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Speaker 10: I think Ellie. Every time Ellie gets up, Man, he's

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Speaker 10: got this big, sweeping swing, brouh. Sometimes you need to

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Speaker 10: need to control that swing. I think South South Steward

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Speaker 10: is a perfect example of that. Sometimes you got to

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Speaker 10: cut the swing down. Yeah, put the ball in play.

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Speaker 10: Put the pressure on the defense to make a play.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not saying hit a straight tool, but

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Speaker 10: I'm saying, you know, well, you need to hit the

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Speaker 10: ball hard, of course, but you need to put the

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Speaker 10: ball in play, man, put the pressure on the defense

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Speaker 10: and make the play to stop you from score through. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: and that's all. I'll just hang up and listen, Brian.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you. You know.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this briefly yesterday Austin, because I noticed it

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Speaker 2: Monday from Will Benson. Will Benson has the same swing

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Speaker 2: if it's a one to zero count that he would

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Speaker 2: with an O two count. His swing doesn't change, And

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Speaker 2: you could say the same thing about a lot of

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Speaker 2: Red's players. I still remember the Joey Vado at bats

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Speaker 2: where he gets two strikes and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: he's choking up so far on the bat. It's almost comical,

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Speaker 2: but that was the way of hitters approach for many years.

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Speaker 2: Two strikes shorten the swing, choke up on the bat,

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Speaker 2: put the ball in play, and see what happens today.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just a reds problem today.

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Speaker 8: There are.

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Speaker 2: Far too many, in my opinion, Austin hitters that their

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Speaker 2: swing doesn't change because everything is about hitting the ball

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Speaker 2: out of the ballpark.

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Speaker 3: And it worked for.

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Speaker 2: Suarez the other day over the weekend because of o

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Speaker 2: two count he put it four hundred and ten feet

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Speaker 2: into the stands. But you don't see many players in

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Speaker 2: today's game that are going to choke up with two

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Speaker 2: strikes and just try to put the ball in play.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I

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Speaker 5: think certainly you are right that there are those types

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Speaker 5: of people. And a guy like au Haanio Suarez, he's

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Speaker 5: always looking to pull the ball, he's always looking to

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Speaker 5: hit home runs. He's not going to change very much

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Speaker 5: with two strikes. But just the other day, two strikes,

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Speaker 5: he got bailed out on that check swing and he

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Speaker 5: went the other way and shot the ball over the

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Speaker 5: second basement. I think TJ.

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Speaker 3: Friedel you said that a check swing, like, is he

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Speaker 3: was that his intent? You think?

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Speaker 5: No, he had the check swing, it should have been

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Speaker 5: strike three. He came back into the box after they

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Speaker 5: for some reason didn't call it a strike three and

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Speaker 5: then put a good opposite field swing on the ball.

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Speaker 5: So I think you're right, like it happens more than

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Speaker 5: it should. I don't think that it's necessarily a huge

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Speaker 5: problem with this team right now. And I think Ellie's

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Speaker 5: actually a good example and South Stewart are a good examples.

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Speaker 5: South Stewart, for sure, Ellie hasn't gotten the production I

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Speaker 5: think we would like. But I think Ellie's done does

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Speaker 5: a better job of adjusting his swing than people give

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Speaker 5: him credit for, depending on the count. He's just he

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Speaker 5: can't figure out if he wants to hit a fastball

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Speaker 5: or a curveball like he pitch by pitch, can't seem

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Speaker 5: to figure out what he's looking for, and that drives

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Speaker 5: me nuts.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I get where you're coming from. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that. I think. I don't know that I'm that

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Speaker 3: worried about it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe let's talk about some other things we may be

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Speaker 2: worried about. To kick off our number two also his

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Speaker 2: Brian's first point, there is something to be We talk

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Speaker 2: a lot about high stress situations. I thought to me

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Speaker 2: the game was for the Reds in the eighth because

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Speaker 2: you cut it to one. Santition pitched a clean eighth,

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Speaker 2: and then you had Ellie Stewart and Suarez in the eighth.

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Speaker 2: It felt like if they were gonna win that yesterday,

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Speaker 2: it was gonna be in the bottom of the eighth

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Speaker 2: or at least tie it. And then you do bring

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Speaker 2: Pegan on in the ninth with the idea of getting

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Speaker 2: you to the bottom of the ninth only down one,

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Speaker 2: and that blows up on you a little bit with

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Speaker 2: Amelio Pegan, but they are they're high leverage situations early on.

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Speaker 2: But in the role of a setup man or a

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Speaker 2: closure you're you're gonna be doing that more often than not.

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Speaker 2: So that just has to be your makeup. You've got

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Speaker 2: to be able to thrive in those situations and be

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Speaker 2: honest more oftentimes than not. It it feels like Pegan

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Speaker 2: has struggled through those situations. Let's talk about some concerns

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Speaker 2: or what we need to brush off as just an

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Speaker 2: early part of the season. We'll also add some phone

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Speaker 2: calls as well to kick off our number two ESPN

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