Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: Election night? And in early one at that last night
Speaker 2: Good Morning Scott's Sloan show on seven hundred WYLW and
Speaker 2: the headline of course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New
Speaker 2: York City to Virginia to Anderson Township and so a
Speaker 2: blue I don't know if it's a blue wave. Let's
Speaker 2: have blue or a blue ripple because it's really only
Speaker 2: been a year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put
Speaker 2: things in perspective, he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in
Speaker 2: northern Kentucky. That would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more
Speaker 2: than a few people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Scott.
Speaker 2: A good day for you. I know your candidate's all
Speaker 2: swept up right.
Speaker 3: It was a good It was a good night. You know,
Speaker 3: it's all about understanding the political environment and running, you know,
Speaker 3: running with that and it's that simple.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Council race and the Mary race was called early it
Speaker 3: was a good night if you wear them.
Speaker 2: It was typically we see that the midterm referendum that
Speaker 2: the party in power is refuted at the midterm. This
Speaker 2: feels like it's starting a little earlier. Am I right
Speaker 2: about that? I mean, literally, it's been one of a
Speaker 2: year a year into Trump's you know, Trump tom across America,
Speaker 2: and I think, as you said before, it's the standard
Speaker 2: beds of people at the top that's kind of set
Speaker 2: the tone. Are we starting to see that swing earlier
Speaker 2: than ever before?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: and it was very similar if people can remember, I
Speaker 3: know that was a long time ago. Trump. If Trump
Speaker 3: is not on the top of the ticket, he is,
Speaker 3: he has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but Trump is
Speaker 3: the anomaly. And that's the one thing that when he
Speaker 3: is not on top of the ticket, it is a
Speaker 3: whole different ballgame. We've seen it in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, you know, twenty one, twenty two. Trump is
Speaker 3: the outlier. And you know, I'll say the biggest shock
Speaker 3: to me was to see New Jersey, which you know
Speaker 3: Trump did so well. Yes he lost, but he got
Speaker 3: it within five which was kind of unheard of. For instance,
Speaker 3: wing back to I believe it was like fifteen or
Speaker 3: you know, all the inroads he made in the minority
Speaker 3: communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as
Speaker 3: simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election
Speaker 3: is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you
Speaker 3: you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to
Speaker 3: take it out on you. And in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,
Speaker 3: downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, your four oh one k might be doing well,
Speaker 3: but that's not everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know, that's illustrative
Speaker 2: of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like
Speaker 2: the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots effort,
Speaker 2: right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's hanging
Speaker 2: out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media, digital campaign,
Speaker 2: no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America, no legacy media,
Speaker 2: nothing like that. And he just simply comes out of
Speaker 2: nowhere and reset how politics is going to be run
Speaker 2: in the future, for sure, And so he blasts the
Speaker 2: gen zs, the young millennials, and they have now arrived
Speaker 2: as a voting block. Now that's New York City, that's different.
Speaker 2: But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,
Speaker 2: and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we
Speaker 2: saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one
Speaker 3: of those just regardless of what you think of him politically,
Speaker 3: he has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.
Speaker 3: And you know, and it's actually very similar to both
Speaker 3: Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere and
Speaker 3: it was a meteoric rise and he captured the soul
Speaker 3: of the voter. And that's something that no consultant can
Speaker 3: tell you to do. You just have it or you're not.
Speaker 3: But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's completely shocking
Speaker 3: to get back to the local side. You know, in
Speaker 3: twelve years, it went from being a super red you
Speaker 3: know township to now almost all blue.
Speaker 2: Yep. So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats
Speaker 2: on the three member panel. And also I'll point out
Speaker 2: the Festaill school board flipped blue as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it's very interesting because you know,
Speaker 3: during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural
Speaker 3: areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs,
Speaker 3: the Anderson townships, the you know, Florence, Kentucky's of the world.
Speaker 3: Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and
Speaker 3: you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but
Speaker 3: they came back overwhelmingly now to the which I'm always shocked.
Speaker 3: I've never met someone who is a swing voter. And
Speaker 3: if you guys are you guys are amazing. I would
Speaker 3: love to meet you guys sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The imaginery, yeah, but the elections out they're lost in
Speaker 2: one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural
Speaker 2: areas are pretty red, the cities, urban airs pretty blue.
Speaker 2: But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.
Speaker 2: You know years ago was Montgomery and Blue Ash and
Speaker 2: it's Anderson Township.
Speaker 3: It is. And you know, so that's going forward for
Speaker 3: twenty six, seven, eight, All resources for either party should
Speaker 3: just be all put in to the Anderson township type,
Speaker 3: you know, the suburbs, because that's where you win or
Speaker 3: lose election. That's how Joe Biden won in twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: That's how Donald Trump won in twenty four the suburbs.
Speaker 3: So all resources going forward, I would not be shocked
Speaker 3: if he saw both sides just pour heavily into you know,
Speaker 3: digital grassroots knocking in the suburbs, because that's where you
Speaker 3: win or lose an election. You're not going to win
Speaker 3: or lose the election in rural if you're Republicans, or
Speaker 3: the city if you're dom So you got to turn
Speaker 3: you got to get the suburbs voters.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll even point out where I am, you know,
Speaker 2: like in Mason and Warren County that's been deep red
Speaker 2: for a long time, pretty read for a long time,
Speaker 2: but even that we're starting to see change. Emmy Greg
Speaker 2: Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what happens with
Speaker 2: the registering of Him'm gonna get him on the show
Speaker 2: in the next few days to talk about that. But
Speaker 2: I know, it's like the council is kind of flipping,
Speaker 2: maybe not blue, but more moderate. In the past, it
Speaker 2: used to be really really rock ribbed, super Trump mega,
Speaker 2: even though their mega candidate missed getting elected for the
Speaker 2: second or third time. So it's interesting how even Warren County,
Speaker 2: which is pretty red, is starting to get back towards
Speaker 2: the middle.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and you know,
Speaker 3: they go one way and they and right now we're
Speaker 3: kind of getting back to the middle. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: for Hamilton County, when I first started, it was a
Speaker 3: swing county and now every single basically elected official from
Speaker 3: judges all the way down are all blue. So it's
Speaker 3: just a very fascinating political shift during the Trump era.
Speaker 3: You know, in school, you would always learn about the
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight, the civil rights era, how it changed
Speaker 3: the map, and it's very similar now. You know, Trump
Speaker 3: has changed the political landscape and how you win elections,
Speaker 3: and it's just been fascinating for someone for what I do,
Speaker 3: how to get you know, the fifty plus one vote
Speaker 3: to win an election, and that's been the biggest change
Speaker 3: during the Trump era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is more of a rougher end amount
Speaker 2: affordability in the pocketbook or Donald Trump are both?
Speaker 3: I think it's both. I mean, you know, yes, you know,
Speaker 3: Fannie really hit on something and I think I want
Speaker 3: to be shocked as Democrats to play on this nationally. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Elon Moss, Jeff Bezos are getting how much more billions
Speaker 3: while you're struggling to pay for eggs? Easy to affordability.
Speaker 3: Affordability will always be the number one issue. I know
Speaker 3: James Carville and I said of it earlier, it's the
Speaker 3: economy stupid.
Speaker 2: Always yeah, yeah, always, yeah.
Speaker 3: Always, it's the number one issue. And frankly, if people
Speaker 3: are feeling it at home, they're going to take out
Speaker 3: their frustration on the ballot box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's true. You know Trump saying, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come in the first day, You're gonna get
Speaker 2: more money, it's gonna be overnight. I'm gonna fix all
Speaker 2: these things and make these grandiose promises on the campaign trail,
Speaker 2: which politicians often do, but Donald Trump has has really
Speaker 2: turned that out. Its ear like he's really good at it.
Speaker 2: If it's been a year later and you're seeing things
Speaker 2: get worse, stagnant, or just simply not better, uh, then
Speaker 2: you go to the alternative and now you've got a
Speaker 2: guy like mom daddy making these promises which we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens in the year. And I'm guessing a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff is simply not going to happen. I wonder,
Speaker 2: and again, three years from now, maybe he is your
Speaker 2: Democratic front runner. If he can be successful, I doubt it,
Speaker 2: but we'll see about you know, free buses, and we're
Speaker 2: going to freeze rent and we'll see how that works out.
Speaker 2: But back to the local race here, I'm not surprised by
Speaker 2: aftabs win. I said, I think he's gonna win. You
Speaker 2: never want to say never, but I think he's more
Speaker 2: than likely. If our betting, I would bet handily that
Speaker 2: he would have won the election he did. But are
Speaker 2: you surprised by the margin that he won by him
Speaker 2: almost eight and ten voters.
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought my over or under for him was
Speaker 3: about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks
Speaker 3: to how well of a machine he has. I mean,
Speaker 3: aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,
Speaker 3: which is of self inflected wound, and the city is
Speaker 3: just that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to
Speaker 3: twenty five. So it's very similar to the Harris And
Speaker 3: it just points to all the outside noise on social
Speaker 3: media and talk radio and everything. You know, y city,
Speaker 3: the people in the city actually don't care. They care
Speaker 3: about you know, issues about rent, about social issues, and
Speaker 3: you know, for as Top, this gives him a referendum
Speaker 3: like he has a mandate, like so with the police chief,
Speaker 3: the city manager. When you win almost eighty percent, I
Speaker 3: don't care who you are. You have a lot of
Speaker 3: cliche now, so it's gonna be very interesting to see
Speaker 3: how he does that. And you know, his campaign was
Speaker 3: very kind of smart. They didn't try to make too
Speaker 3: much of an issue. You know, props to him and
Speaker 3: his team. They clearly knew what they were doing, and
Speaker 3: it showed last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it did. But I don't know. I think
Speaker 2: the way they handle a lot of these things relative
Speaker 2: to crime was not good at all. Does that just
Speaker 2: empower them to do more of the same double down
Speaker 2: on this because I get I don't live in the city,
Speaker 2: and I know that crime isn't rampant downtown. There's just
Speaker 2: areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot of the
Speaker 2: policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence how they
Speaker 2: handle Terry Sieg And now I think as voters didn't
Speaker 2: give a damn and you know that he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to please me, you have to please voters. I get
Speaker 2: that whole thing. But does that just give them more
Speaker 2: leeway to go, Okay, well, they don't care about this.
Speaker 2: I can I can definitely, you know, I can get
Speaker 2: police officials to charge folks after the fact and I
Speaker 2: can you know, suspend someone before I fire them and
Speaker 2: voters don't care? Is he just going to do more
Speaker 2: of that?
Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, when you're
Speaker 3: an elected official, you know the voters are the people
Speaker 3: who keep you in check. And when you win eighty
Speaker 3: percent and when you sweep all council, the voters have
Speaker 3: clearly made up what they think is the most important issue.
Speaker 3: So you know them swept all counsel. They swept them
Speaker 3: as all the trustees, school boards and Wilton County, so
Speaker 3: you know the crime issue is not as big of
Speaker 3: an issue to the voters of Hamilton County as it appeared.
Speaker 2: No, that makes total sense. Scott's solandelaw with Jeff Jeff
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting. He's an upholster and political
Speaker 2: wonk if you will, had a hand in a number
Speaker 2: of the people winning election last night in the local area,
Speaker 2: and just some observations as to why the DEM swept
Speaker 2: and what is behind this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be
Speaker 2: affordability and the Trump factor as well are influencing races,
Speaker 2: not just on the East coast with Jersey and Virginia
Speaker 2: and New York City, but also places like Anderson Township
Speaker 2: where you saw two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats.
Speaker 2: They flipped that blue and Foresail school Board as well.
Speaker 2: Not surprised by aftabs win, I thought that, okay, I said,
Speaker 2: you know, Aftabs is going to win this election. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure of it. But I thought that there would
Speaker 2: be a little bit more upheaval on city Council.
Speaker 3: And that just speaks to this power of the blue
Speaker 3: slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable
Speaker 3: because I think even the biggest Dems would have told you.
Speaker 3: I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always
Speaker 3: the question mark, as you know, someone who's not on
Speaker 3: council and list heating ran a perfect race. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the numbers are what the
Speaker 3: numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.
Speaker 3: She raised a bolotoo of money, she did a blitz
Speaker 3: at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
Speaker 3: And the blue slate card that you see when you
Speaker 3: go to a poll, if you're in the City of
Speaker 3: Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated. Now it you know,
Speaker 3: the biggest elections going forward in the city will be
Speaker 3: the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,
Speaker 3: in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being
Speaker 3: you had to be this moderate on either side to
Speaker 3: you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.
Speaker 3: And I think you're going to start seeing in the
Speaker 3: new upcoming election primaries start to get nasty because that's
Speaker 3: the real election, now.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha? Your top vote getters. Michelleman Kearney was number one,
Speaker 2: Scottie Johnson, Mika Owens is new and I'll be Jefferies, Walsh,
Speaker 2: Kramerding Nolan, and Ryan James and just missing again. I
Speaker 2: just had her on the other day. I think she's wonderful.
Speaker 2: Liz Keating, who went totally in on the crime thing,
Speaker 2: as well as Chris Smithman, the Keda Cole. They all
Speaker 2: went to crime, crime, crime crime, and it didn't matter
Speaker 2: because Liz ket Anthy for the second election now just
Speaker 2: narrowly missed that ninth seat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,
Speaker 3: it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they
Speaker 3: ran as good as the race. I don't really know
Speaker 3: anything they could have done differently, But when a city
Speaker 3: votes seventy five to twenty five, you know for the
Speaker 3: mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard
Speaker 3: to overcome that. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple.
Speaker 2: Right, right, But I think it's a promise there because
Speaker 2: Mika Owens came as a charter right and she finished
Speaker 2: surprisingly third, beating out a lot of the incumbents there
Speaker 2: with the most number of votes behind Lemon, Kearney and Johnson.
Speaker 3: MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right, the charter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically ten years
Speaker 3: the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were, you know,
Speaker 3: a large part of Cincinnati politics since the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 3: But they just they just don't have the juice anymore.
Speaker 2: Right, What do you attribute that to? Just the fact
Speaker 2: that we're it's a two party state and that's all
Speaker 2: because I mean we had charter You know, I've been
Speaker 2: here for twenty years and there are plenty of charter
Speaker 2: rights that did wonderful and work and represented well and
Speaker 2: went why can't they get traction?
Speaker 3: Uh? It's national. I mean, at the end of the
Speaker 3: day politics now has become so national. You know, it's
Speaker 3: a you're either with us or against stuff, and people
Speaker 3: just now you know the social media age that there's
Speaker 3: no wiggle room.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: And secondly, the charter right, this is very wonky now,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a committee and not
Speaker 3: a party with the state. So it also hurts some
Speaker 3: of their resources. So it's not like the Green Party,
Speaker 3: because you know, you have national stuff. They just lack
Speaker 3: the resources. And frankly, when the earned media for either
Speaker 3: the R or the D are trillions of dollars every year,
Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2: He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on
Speaker 2: your slate of winners. Area went six or six in
Speaker 2: this I know Kevin and I always love the insight
Speaker 2: the polster and why we've to the way we voted yesterday. Kevin,
Speaker 2: all the best, Thanks again, Bud, you do well.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: All right, I got to get a news update in
Speaker 2: I believe Frank Marzula is standing by from WCPO nine.
Speaker 2: He's down to Louisville, the very latest one that ups
Speaker 2: plane crash. We'll get back to some of this election
Speaker 2: related stuff. Lots to do on this Wednesday morning, Sloaney
Speaker 2: seven hundred ww all right, we'll get back some of
Speaker 2: the election stuff in just a minute. But as often
Speaker 2: as the case, you have one big news day, it's
Speaker 2: just compounded by other big news story, and a huge
Speaker 2: one right in our listening area. Here's what happened early
Speaker 2: evening last night. Of course, the ups plane crash at
Speaker 2: Louisville Airport at Muhammad Ali death toll. There is climbing.
Speaker 2: We're up to nine overnight now eleven people injured. Governor
Speaker 2: Basher said, sixteen people at this point still unaccounted for.
Speaker 2: And by now we saw the devastation. Standing by out
Speaker 2: there is Frank Marzulo now with nine WCPO. I've known Frank.
Speaker 2: I think we came to Cincinnati years and decades ago.
Speaker 2: Now it makes us old about the same time. And Frank,
Speaker 2: so glad you're back on TV local here. Welcome. Oops.
Speaker 2: Hold on a second one. I think I screwed that up,
Speaker 2: did I know? There we go, Let me try that again, Frank,
Speaker 2: you there, I was just kissing your ass, Frank a
Speaker 2: little bit there, just kissing your ass for a minute
Speaker 2: there that's what I do. Congratulations on the gig. Good
Speaker 2: to see you back on local television.
Speaker 4: My friend, Oh thank you. I was. I was kissing
Speaker 4: lots of butts to try to get back on.
Speaker 2: I appreciate he's in Cleveland, he's in date and he's
Speaker 2: doing it, hitting the line. He's like Jay Lenno work
Speaker 2: in the circuit back in the day, buddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's good. It's it's good. It's going
Speaker 4: to be back and doing things. But I appreciate, you know,
Speaker 4: we'll talk the better terms next time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, really sad story it is. I was watching
Speaker 2: last night and then atrition rob Head Live Anchory the
Speaker 2: ranking live coverage out there, and when they broke in,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, now what do we have. It's Louisville,
Speaker 2: a plane crash. Okay, thinking like it's private. And it
Speaker 2: turns out and they show the aerial of this thing
Speaker 2: and it's a field of fireball. Uh and not the
Speaker 2: good content. Absolutely horrific. So again, the latest numbers on
Speaker 2: this nine people are confirmed debt at this point. The
Speaker 2: Governor Andy Basheer said sixteen on accounted for eleven injured.
Speaker 2: Let's set this up the scope of the fire because
Speaker 2: it's tough to get a perspective unless you're down there,
Speaker 2: even with you know, a helicopter view of this thing.
Speaker 2: How wide is that? Is that a field of damage?
Speaker 4: Well, the search area here this morning and w CBO
Speaker 4: nine's are Sam Harris Simmon with he was there live
Speaker 4: last night when the fire really was still going strong.
Speaker 4: The fire has been put out, smope has been put out.
Speaker 4: There have been a few flare ups. I've noticed two
Speaker 4: of those this morning, but the search area has been
Speaker 4: one city block that they have been searching. And you
Speaker 4: mentioned the victims still missing. That that pull at nine
Speaker 4: now at one point two with the here's thing, Scott,
Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty thousand pounds of fuel was on
Speaker 4: this jet right. This is an MD eleven. It's the
Speaker 4: tried jet. We've got the engines on, one on each
Speaker 4: wing and one on the on the tail. They don't
Speaker 4: serve passengers anymore, they're all card ups. Took control of
Speaker 4: this one in two thousand and six. It's thirty four
Speaker 4: years old. So this thing wholesome fuel, right, two hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty thousand pounds of fuel. It's going on an
Speaker 4: eight and a half hour flight to Honolulu. So it's
Speaker 4: fully loaded one hundred and seventy five feet off the
Speaker 4: air when it crashes. Get this into a petroleum recycling
Speaker 4: facility that's at the end of the runway there at
Speaker 4: Muhammad Ali Luisa Internet National Airport.
Speaker 2: So not only the fuel on board.
Speaker 4: But the petroleum facility. I know you've seen the video.
Speaker 4: It is just there was a video where you literally
Speaker 4: see the plane kind of kurktailing. You could see an
Speaker 4: engine on fire. And I talked to our good friend,
Speaker 4: I know he does a lot with you, with Jay Ratless,
Speaker 4: last night, and he was telling me that, you know, investigators,
Speaker 4: is a couple of things you'll look at here now.
Speaker 4: So you're going to look Number one, engine failure may
Speaker 4: not always be the go to even if it's on fire.
Speaker 4: There could have been debris on the runway that happened
Speaker 4: with the Concord Air crash back in two thousand and
Speaker 4: Since then, there's protocols now where you go up and
Speaker 4: down the runway a couple of times a day make
Speaker 4: sure there's not dead animals and whatnot. Couldn't this a
Speaker 4: cargo jet, so it could be cargo that maybe properly
Speaker 4: wasn't you know, tied down and you get your weights
Speaker 4: and balances off if something's moving, so a lot. Again,
Speaker 4: those are just all options that the NTSB is going
Speaker 4: to have on the table here as those twenty eight
Speaker 4: investigators are arriving this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably starts not discounting all that stuff. I
Speaker 2: and Jay's right about that. Is the engine itself is
Speaker 2: the flame out because you know most people get nervous. O,
Speaker 2: my guy, we're coming in for a landing. And that's
Speaker 2: the easy part. The most critical part of that is
Speaker 2: that sequence what you talked about, from where you start
Speaker 2: up to beginning of the runway basically get up to
Speaker 2: speed to get ugh knots to create the lift to
Speaker 2: get that plane in the air. So if the engine
Speaker 2: goes out, if you lose an engine that early, you
Speaker 2: know it's not always catastrophic, but boy, you really can't control.
Speaker 2: You've got all that weight in inertia going forward and
Speaker 2: it flamed out at the exact wrong time. Now, could
Speaker 2: it bend something in the hole that shifted, That's entirely
Speaker 2: possible causing a problem, But I'm sure though, And it
Speaker 2: looked to me like it looked like part of a
Speaker 2: cowling maybe along the runway from some of the areals
Speaker 2: I saw which would indicate that. But the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is putting a petroleum refining facility near where
Speaker 2: the end of that runway is. Was it at the
Speaker 2: end of the runway or did it get some lift
Speaker 2: and go off to one time.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like it's not you know, runways
Speaker 4: over petroleum facilities there, but it's close enough that there's
Speaker 4: only one hundred and twenty five feet off the air
Speaker 4: when it crashed into this, and you bring up good
Speaker 4: points there. By the time you realize you have an issue, okay,
Speaker 4: you're past the point of no return, so you either
Speaker 4: run off the runway or you try to take off
Speaker 4: right that the issue is. And that's why I takeoff.
Speaker 4: Failures like this are so critical. You don't have altitude
Speaker 4: to troubleshoot this thing right, your mid air engine blows Okay,
Speaker 4: you've got two others you're flying along. You can at
Speaker 4: least troubleshoot. It clearsome airspace for me, let me figure
Speaker 4: out what's going on. You're lifting off, it goes off,
Speaker 4: You pretty much.
Speaker 5: Have no chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it harkens back to Miracle on the
Speaker 2: Hudson with Sullenberger right, and he had enough lift created
Speaker 2: it was off the ground enough when that bird strike
Speaker 2: cap and that other engine is able to propel him.
Speaker 2: That this happened earlier than that, I believe, and I
Speaker 2: know I'm not through the aviation expert. Probably a lot
Speaker 2: heavier cargo and so more inertia. It's going to take
Speaker 2: more energy to get the plane in the air because
Speaker 2: it's a cargo plane. But bigger engines, bigger and ntsp's
Speaker 2: on scene. They'll figure this thing out eventually at some
Speaker 2: point here. But right now you worry about what I
Speaker 2: heard from Governor Basher was sixteen people still missing? Is
Speaker 2: that numbers still accurate at this point?
Speaker 4: That's that's the number I have. Yep, sixteen still missing.
Speaker 4: It was seven overnight dead, when up nine here this afternoon.
Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll get more updates. The airport is open,
Speaker 4: they've opened one runway because it was shut down for
Speaker 4: a good portion of the overnight period. And he had
Speaker 4: a five mile radius for a shelter in place. Have
Speaker 4: seen and I haven't been able to confirm this, but
Speaker 4: I have seen on you know, multiple legit news articles
Speaker 4: and sites, you know, debris miles away because you have
Speaker 4: all it's all packaging, right, and you have so you
Speaker 4: have things that are light. I mean, you have an
Speaker 4: explosion like that, you have you know, letters and packages
Speaker 4: and things that will just you know, get caught up
Speaker 4: in the updrafts and whatnot in the atmosphere and be
Speaker 4: carried away. So yeah, it's you never want to you
Speaker 4: never want to see anything like that. This is only
Speaker 4: the third, you say, only you know it's awful no
Speaker 4: matter what. But the third accident in UPS airline history
Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty eight. You had won in twenty ten
Speaker 4: in Dubai and closer to home twenty thirteen, you may
Speaker 4: recall there was an UPS flight and an A three
Speaker 4: hundred that took off and was on its way to
Speaker 4: Birmingham and right before it landed in Birmingham it crashed.
Speaker 4: And that took off in Louisville as well. That was
Speaker 4: back in twenty thirteen, and in both those instances the
Speaker 4: crew was killed. There was three on the flight here, pilot,
Speaker 4: copilot and either a relief pilot or you know, an engineer.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can't, you can't, but I don't think that's
Speaker 2: Louisville's our backyard. It's you know, it's in our listening
Speaker 2: area here and you're viewing area, Frank. Yeah. At the
Speaker 2: same time, you go like, well, what about CVG, because
Speaker 2: we have a cargo hub. They're certainly as big as
Speaker 2: Louisville as the global coming.
Speaker 4: I mean with Amazon and DHL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I know down in there where you are, Louisville,
Speaker 2: Frank Burzillo, that is also the UPS Global Flight Training
Speaker 2: facility right there too. But this was an actual cargo flight.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a training flight.
Speaker 4: This was on a training flight. Yeah. They had their
Speaker 4: real port there and they so they have planes, you know,
Speaker 4: planes that they own and planes that they charter, right
Speaker 4: and upwards of two thousand flights a day go out
Speaker 4: of Louisville, and a lot of those are on the
Speaker 4: on the overnight hours. I mean you can and you
Speaker 4: see that at CBG too, you know, yeah, get back
Speaker 4: up at two am now, rewarded driver into work and
Speaker 4: you can see the lights lining up as the planes
Speaker 4: are coming in, whether it's DHL or Amazon or whatnot.
Speaker 4: So a lot of that's overnight. But this was just
Speaker 4: as the day was getting as the evening was getting started,
Speaker 4: a little after five point thirty and it's so close.
Speaker 4: I mean you have all the windows on the on
Speaker 4: the departure gates and so you know you're getting on
Speaker 4: a United American Delta flight and you see that, like
Speaker 4: hold on a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's been flights I've had that
Speaker 2: we've had to divert to Louisville because you know, something's
Speaker 2: gone on CBG.
Speaker 4: So it's very nice. It's convenient. In fact, I was
Speaker 4: last week. I came back from New York and all
Speaker 4: the flights and CBG were canceled the weather and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I ended I ended up taking a flight to
Speaker 4: Louisville and just you know, drove the quick ninety minutes
Speaker 4: back up north.
Speaker 2: Now that's it's pretty it's actually pretty convenience. I like
Speaker 2: Louisville lot. It's what what is the situation now there?
Speaker 2: So people are hearing this, like I got to drive south?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it causing problems on the highways?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Or you're not keeping an eye on that?
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's all good, okay, every everything down there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when it comes to like infrastructure stuff, now everything's focusing
Speaker 4: on the actual site itself. Now, if you're in a
Speaker 4: business or whatnot within that vicinity there's you know things.
Speaker 4: But if you you know, are on the interstates and whatnot,
Speaker 4: you were fine. We got right into the airport of
Speaker 4: was no no problem at all. All right.
Speaker 2: Well, the search continues for the missing sixteen and NTSB's
Speaker 2: on the seat of investigators.
Speaker 4: There's somewhere else right like. And the governor even said
Speaker 4: this too when tornadoes have hit and whatnot. You know,
Speaker 4: he goes, here's what we're looking for. You we're missing.
Speaker 4: But he said, thankfully, you know when he said, you know,
Speaker 4: we have one hundred missing, maybe twenty out of the hunting.
Speaker 4: You know, so you guess all that. You know, folks
Speaker 4: are asleeping, they don't have the news on the on't
Speaker 4: know what's going on, and you gets hope that you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think also too when this happened, and I
Speaker 2: think it was the affiliated Louisville that had reported the
Speaker 2: roads that were most affected by this, and I pulled
Speaker 2: my Google arth out doing a little research, and it said,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that is very very close to it.
Speaker 2: There's a Ford assembly plant that is right there. How
Speaker 2: close was this to the Ford Assembly Plant?
Speaker 4: I can't I can't tell you I know it's there.
Speaker 4: I mean I will see the Louisville Airport. I mean
Speaker 4: there's an amusement part. There's a lot going on call
Speaker 4: Kentucky Kingdom or whatever. Yeah, you can see that. Right
Speaker 4: when the sun came up, I'm like, oh, look there's
Speaker 4: a Ferris room right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're there for companies are Bourbon and Beyond. At
Speaker 2: the expo grounds right there's fits A. It's a great
Speaker 2: facility to watch concerts live. But there's a lot of
Speaker 2: it's not just an airport like CBG. Okay, there's some
Speaker 2: buildings and stuff around there. That's a whole big it's
Speaker 2: almost like a city itself around the airport. And I
Speaker 2: saw that they fod assembly plant. I'm like praying to
Speaker 2: god that oh my god, if that plane hit that
Speaker 2: assembly plant with you know, a full shift there, can
Speaker 2: you imagine? Can you imagine?
Speaker 4: I'm a good point because people always go you know that,
Speaker 4: we always get not made fun of it. They go,
Speaker 4: what'd you fly to Cincinnati? But are you flying to Kentucky?
Speaker 4: Well they build it out there because there was land
Speaker 4: where you can you know, where you're not putting a
Speaker 4: lot at risk or having a lot of developments going
Speaker 4: up now right around the airport. I mean a love
Speaker 4: if you are flowing into San Diego, that thing is
Speaker 4: that's when they go downtown. That would be like a
Speaker 4: runway on Fountain Square.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so it's crazy crazy.
Speaker 4: There's a risk with these city metropolitan airports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. All right. Frank Marzuola from w CPO
Speaker 2: nine to seem in the mornings, and I thank you
Speaker 2: for checking in, brother, Glad you're back on your feet
Speaker 2: and kicking the Thanks again.
Speaker 4: Man, We're trying, okay, talk about.
Speaker 2: All the best. Back at it. Horrible tragedy down Leve.
Speaker 2: Will keep an eye on that one. Scott's loan on
Speaker 2: seven hundred w Oldwty coming up at ten oh six CPS.
Speaker 2: Back to the other major news story today, of course,
Speaker 2: that would be the election yesterday and what's happening behind
Speaker 2: the scenes. We've got Sean Murphy, Superintendent of CPS. They
Speaker 2: had a big levy in the passed by wide margin yesterday,
Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars ten year renewal. And it's a renewal,
Speaker 2: so it's no property tax increases for taxpayers. But we'll
Speaker 2: get to hear about the big picture in just a
Speaker 2: few minutes coming up on the Scott Sloane Show on
Speaker 2: seven hundred W old W. But relative to the election yesterday,
Speaker 2: I know that my Republican colleagues, especially though are more
Speaker 2: maga than not, are a little nervous today about the
Speaker 2: dem sweeping from Jersey to the city, to Virginia to
Speaker 2: Anderson Township. I think it's an interesting, interesting fallout here
Speaker 2: and that you know, looking at what Ma'm donnie to me,
Speaker 2: it strikes me watching him going and rising so quickly
Speaker 2: meteorically as a couple of things going on, and how
Speaker 2: does that impact what we're doing here in Cincinnati. I
Speaker 2: think it does is that we have a much much
Speaker 2: lower tolerance now than before for politicians getting elected mandates
Speaker 2: and or otherwise, but putting their plans in place, and
Speaker 2: if it doesn't come to fruition, that's it. Biggest issue
Speaker 2: are two things. One is the referendu amount affordability, because
Speaker 2: that's what got Mamdanni elected in New York City. It
Speaker 2: was I want to say, not long ago, maybe a
Speaker 2: year ago, if that there was a meme going right,
Speaker 2: I saw that the sandwich in New York State just
Speaker 2: a regular not like a high end boogie sandwich or
Speaker 2: your sandwich in near thirty dollars or sandwich. Now, what's
Speaker 2: driving that? Of course the government policies and everything, and
Speaker 2: the fact it is the most populous city in the
Speaker 2: United States and everything costs much much more in New
Speaker 2: York City because so many more people are there. It
Speaker 2: just drives a cost everything up. That's not a lot
Speaker 2: that I don't know people caught that or not, but
Speaker 2: Ma'm daddy to strikes me as the anti Trump because
Speaker 2: he came on the scene rather quickly, just simply out
Speaker 2: of nowhere, and his campaign was running completely in social media,
Speaker 2: in a digital campaign. There's no TV, no legacy. He's
Speaker 2: not sitting down and talking to CNN and MSNBC and
Speaker 2: you know, all the things typically politicians do. It was
Speaker 2: completely organic. And the other big factor here is he
Speaker 2: did really, really well turning out young people Gen z
Speaker 2: ers and millennials because quite honestly, at that age, you know,
Speaker 2: you're looking at this going, Okay, I did what I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to do. I'm working, I maybe got a college degree.
Speaker 2: Professionals for example, normally you look at them as being
Speaker 2: more rightly and going, you know what, I'm tired of
Speaker 2: having to have roommates at the age of thirty and
Speaker 2: not being able to save for a house or a
Speaker 2: car and all these things. In retirement, it feels so
Speaker 2: out of touch. Healthcare is another thing, and affordability, affordability
Speaker 2: and more affordability is what it gets down to. And
Speaker 2: for gen Z and this a whole generation too, by
Speaker 2: the way, that gets all their information from social media,
Speaker 2: and so the algorithms are set there that if you
Speaker 2: want to be depressed and you want to be sad,
Speaker 2: just continue to get a feed of social media and
Speaker 2: not get a perspective on things. And so that played
Speaker 2: in the Bondami and that's why he said, Hey, look,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna give a free bussing. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you a government run grocery stores, and your
Speaker 2: rent is gonna go up. I mean that all sounds good,
Speaker 2: but the reil of that is having seen it, especially
Speaker 2: from the rent element, to me, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: It's almost Trump in a sense that he's going to promise,
Speaker 2: over promise and under deliver. Because Trump was, Hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have tariffs, the economy's gonna good, everything's gonna be
Speaker 2: making money. You know your fore own CA is doing
Speaker 2: pretty well, but it's not like the inflation. The cost
Speaker 2: everything went down and we're getting all these jobs back
Speaker 2: and people are winning. And I think the average person
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like they're winning. You may think you are
Speaker 2: because again, maybe you're on social, maybe you're on true social,
Speaker 2: maybe you're gonna fed the algorithms how great everything is.
Speaker 2: Because Donald Trump says that's the case. But from many
Speaker 2: Americans that we know that's simply not true. But in
Speaker 2: enough Americans to make a difference, I think it's the
Speaker 2: per se of the reality over the perception. But looking
Speaker 2: in what I see at this whole thing is, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just backlash to that. And then relative to Cincinnati
Speaker 2: with af Ted purevoll Has, I've been saying, I don't
Speaker 2: see how I don't see how Corey Bowman wins. I mean,
Speaker 2: seems like a nice guy had him in the show before.
Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is, you know, you're
Speaker 2: jd Vance's brother, and I think people hear that in
Speaker 2: deep deep blue Cincinnati and go hell no that. I
Speaker 2: don't think that helped him. And I think you know,
Speaker 2: he mad a great message in Step, but the baggage
Speaker 2: around that and what he had to carry to win
Speaker 2: the vote in Cincinnati is never gonna work out. I
Speaker 2: am surprised at AFTAB got eight out of ten votes.
Speaker 2: That that surprises me. It may not af tad pureval,
Speaker 2: but that was I guess if you're on team AFTAB,
Speaker 2: that's a pleasant surprise. But I don't know it was
Speaker 2: that voters thought that, And you know, eight out of
Speaker 2: ten votes is a mandate. Let's call what it is.
Speaker 2: But I think that's the thing with Corey Bowman, like
Speaker 2: he had a good message, just I wonder if he
Speaker 2: could get past all that baggage, and clearly he couldn't
Speaker 2: in that case. So we'll see what happens with crime
Speaker 2: downtown to see if it's a lesson learned with this
Speaker 2: Thigg nonsense and you know, the riots, or it just
Speaker 2: doesn't empower you to dig your heels and go hey, listen,
Speaker 2: voters didn't care. Therefore I can get away with more.
Speaker 2: And we're back to the central theme of the show,
Speaker 2: and that is I love a divided government. I love
Speaker 2: it when two sides have to compromise and to get
Speaker 2: order to get stuff done, whether that is in Cincinnati
Speaker 2: or whether that's in Columbus, or in Washington for that matter,
Speaker 2: we do better when they're divided. When one side controls everything,
Speaker 2: it's not good. And you're seeing that come true and
Speaker 2: may see that come true in downtown Cincinnati. We'll get
Speaker 2: a time out in and more to follow Scott Sloane
Speaker 2: Show on the Home of the Best Bengals coverage with
Speaker 2: the bye week here, see if they can't lose the
Speaker 2: bye week. They're trying. They're trying. Seven hundred WW Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: Do you want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: All right, let's go on this Wednesday morning Sloane here,
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Election follow up continues and overall, generally
Speaker 2: a good night for leve save Maybe a few Lakota
Speaker 2: comes to mind, but a lot of school levees are
Speaker 2: up and passed, and one of those would be CPS
Speaker 2: A forty eight million dollars, ten year renewal in the
Speaker 2: city that has no property tax increase for the emergency levee.
Speaker 2: And I think it's interesting based on the dynamics of
Speaker 2: the economy, because this whole thing was a referendumount affordability
Speaker 2: for things and housing affordability is the top of people's minds.
Speaker 2: Here in the Tri state area for sure. On that
Speaker 2: is the superintendent of Cincinnati Public Schools and Studio this morning,
Speaker 2: Miss Shanna Murphy. Welcome, Harrio. Congratulations.
Speaker 7: I'm wonderful, thank you, Thank you so much for having
Speaker 7: me and thanks for the congratulations.
Speaker 2: How nervous were you last Oh?
Speaker 5: Extremely nervous.
Speaker 7: I don't take any of this for granted, you know,
Speaker 7: And as you just said, there is a lot going
Speaker 7: on with our economy. There's a lot going on with housing.
Speaker 7: And I am just deeply appreciative of the people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: They have spoken. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You had nearly seven and ten putters, like like, almost
Speaker 2: seventy percent support on this thing, and that's striking considering
Speaker 2: what we've talked about. I've talked about this commissioner release,
Speaker 2: a ree and the Denise Treehouse about property tax or
Speaker 2: rollbacks and the property tax, and you know, values are
Speaker 2: going up ten to fifteen, twenty percent or what and
Speaker 2: people see them go listen, I only have so much
Speaker 2: money here. I can't continue to give. And yet you know,
Speaker 2: two thirds of voters more two thirds came out and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to pass this levy. What does that say?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. That's huge.
Speaker 7: Right, So my team tells me that that may have
Speaker 7: been a record for us. We'll double check the final
Speaker 7: numbers there. But yeah, with all the rollback information going on,
Speaker 7: because hey, I am a lifelong Cincinnatian and I also
Speaker 7: understand and experience and have felt my property taxes. But
Speaker 7: you know, I think people are valuing pre K to
Speaker 7: twelve education. I think the fact that this is a
Speaker 7: renewal was on our side. And don't take for granted
Speaker 7: all of the decisions people have to make in terms
Speaker 7: of anything from feeding their families and making sure they
Speaker 7: can pay their property taxes.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that forty eight mil. Fifteen is
Speaker 2: for preschool and the rest the other thirty three millions
Speaker 2: like college reading, this career readiness programs, things like that. Technology.
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 7: So this levy, this real levy, is done in partnership
Speaker 7: with Cincinnati Preschool Promise. Cincinnati Preschool Promise is a great partner,
Speaker 7: and they do get fifteen million of what was decided
Speaker 7: out of the forty eight million last night. Those go
Speaker 7: to private providers that we partner with and we work with.
Speaker 7: The remaining dollars do go to Cincinnati public school preschoolers.
Speaker 7: It is a growing population in our school district, and
Speaker 7: we're really grateful and we believe that the work that
Speaker 7: we've done over the last several years, I believe this
Speaker 7: started in twenty sixteen lends itself to why voters are
Speaker 7: supportive of those younger learners. It also goes to making
Speaker 7: sure that we have the best technology in our classrooms,
Speaker 7: that we have high quality instructional materials for our young people.
Speaker 7: It goes towards workforce development and career and technical education.
Speaker 2: Does some of this money will that be able to
Speaker 2: offset some of the federal cuts we've seen?
Speaker 7: So, because this is a renewal, right, and we've had
Speaker 7: this money since twenty sixteen or so, this has nothing
Speaker 7: to do with any possible cuts that could come from
Speaker 7: the federal government.
Speaker 5: Those are our title dollars.
Speaker 7: While we do use those for programming as well, reading programs,
Speaker 7: math programs, this is a total separate budget. We want
Speaker 7: to ride this high from the people of Cincinnati right
Speaker 7: now and understand that come this spring, we probably will
Speaker 7: have to deal with some adjustments from the feds.
Speaker 2: Does it show you, too, Seana Murphy that the voters
Speaker 2: were pretty up on how CPS is running the show
Speaker 2: in that graduation rates are up college and career and
Speaker 2: it's jumped as well, and this is like, Okay, they're
Speaker 2: doing good work. We're going to reward them. Do you
Speaker 2: see it that way?
Speaker 5: No question.
Speaker 7: And I have been a twenty seven year employee of
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Public Schools and so very proud of the work
Speaker 7: that's been done over the years. But especially in this season,
Speaker 7: where there are difficulties and there are choices that families
Speaker 7: have and they can make, they continue to choose Cincinnati
Speaker 7: Public Schools. And I think that's because of the high
Speaker 7: quality teachers that we have in our classrooms, the building
Speaker 7: leadership that we have amongst our principles and assistant Principles
Speaker 7: central office employees, And in spite of having to make
Speaker 7: in the past year and a half or so eighty
Speaker 7: million dollars in cuts, we continued to do more and
Speaker 7: more with less, because it is about the kids at
Speaker 7: the end of the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And in addition that, I remember I had Ebolt done
Speaker 2: many times on the show Sean Murphy and talked about
Speaker 2: that whole restructuring process, and that was pretty ugly. We're
Speaker 2: closing schools, were condensing and now that that has come
Speaker 2: to fruition, you've closed what there's five new middle schools
Speaker 2: and junior highs. Substantial change. Yeah, and did voters finally
Speaker 2: see the plan on it, because there are a lot
Speaker 2: of people are angry about that, as you know, prior
Speaker 2: to this happening.
Speaker 7: Yes, So let me tell you, in my first year,
Speaker 7: we opened our first junior high and that idea came
Speaker 7: out of the district's ad hoc committee. They did that
Speaker 7: work for over an eighteen month period of time.
Speaker 5: The people said that they.
Speaker 7: Wanted to see junior highs in middle school and so
Speaker 7: we had an opportunity my first year as superintendent to
Speaker 7: open Schroder Middle School and that's what we did. What
Speaker 7: we saw with Schroder Middle School is improved attendance, we
Speaker 7: saw improved behaviors, and we saw improved academic achievement through
Speaker 7: the state test. And so this year we opened five
Speaker 7: additional middle schools and junior highs and working really hard
Speaker 7: to see the same, if not better results there.
Speaker 2: I know that there are number schools. Walding Hill's got
Speaker 2: a five stars from three and a half stars. But
Speaker 2: you know, the tough question for you is just still
Speaker 2: fifty two percent of schools are below the state standard. Yes,
Speaker 2: how do you make how do you make that? Is
Speaker 2: it possible to move that needle? And I get why.
Speaker 2: We'll get into the reasons why that is, but is
Speaker 2: that fixible with money?
Speaker 7: So it's we're not where we want to be and
Speaker 7: where we need to be, but we're headed in the
Speaker 7: right direction. We are getting positive feedback. For example, you
Speaker 7: just asked me about the middle schools and junior highs.
Speaker 7: We're getting positive feedback from our students, from our staff,
Speaker 7: and from our families who are actually involved in those schools.
Speaker 7: And so we look forward to seeing great improvement, marked
Speaker 7: improvement with our state test scores. So having that two
Speaker 7: point five stars is an interesting story. There is a
Speaker 7: range of scores that fall within that two point five mark.
Speaker 7: We're headed in the right direction in terms of showing
Speaker 7: improvement there. We'll keep doing that and we will get
Speaker 7: to that three stars and above where we are self
Speaker 7: sufficient and looking forward to getting there with the entire staff.
Speaker 2: I think, and I said, there's underlying things we don't
Speaker 2: see maybe in other areas, in other districts, and that's
Speaker 2: the absentee problem, chronic absenteeism. As you know as rough
Speaker 2: whit it's like like forty five. Yeah, it's almost half
Speaker 2: of the ad missing ten days or more and there's
Speaker 2: many reasons behind that, but you can't control that as
Speaker 2: an educator. You can't go and take kids at gunpoint
Speaker 2: and bring them to school and force them. And that
Speaker 2: you can't do that, how do you battle that?
Speaker 5: We continue to educate.
Speaker 7: So chronic absenteeism is ten percent of the school year,
Speaker 7: and it is regardless of if there's an absence that
Speaker 7: we excuse or not. So for example, I know young
Speaker 7: people who have sickle cell anemia. Guess what on occasion
Speaker 7: they may miss a period of time. There are times
Speaker 7: during inclement weather days where we may say we're going
Speaker 7: to have school. Well, depending on where you live, because
Speaker 7: we're covering fifty two neighborhoods and additional municipalities. It may
Speaker 7: be super clear for the kids going to Hayesport one day,
Speaker 7: but then an entirely different look in terms of the
Speaker 7: streets where the kids in Silverton go to school. And
Speaker 7: so sometimes a parent may say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 7: going to keep my kid home because my sidewalk, my
Speaker 7: cul de sac is not as clear as I needed
Speaker 7: to be guess what that counts against us in terms
Speaker 7: of chronic absenteism. But I support parents making the best
Speaker 7: decision for their family, so we continue to educate.
Speaker 5: There used to be a time when I was growing up.
Speaker 7: Maybe you're out of school for a dental appointment in
Speaker 7: the morning, and maybe a parent will decide we'll keep
Speaker 7: them out for the entire school day. We're encouraging parents
Speaker 7: to bring your kid for that second half of the
Speaker 7: school day because every hour, every minute counts.
Speaker 2: She's Seana Murphy, She's the CPS heading CPS, the superintendent,
Speaker 2: and won a huge levey yesterday's as a Renault Levey
Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars. And I mentioned too before we
Speaker 2: got into the air, It's like, wow, Lakota, that's a
Speaker 2: half billion, forty eight million dollar renewal. Is nothing compared
Speaker 2: to a half billion dollar levee. And that's I don't
Speaker 2: know how you overcome that. I really really, I mean,
Speaker 2: you've followed because it's your business, Shan followed it. What's
Speaker 2: your take on that is it's just too much?
Speaker 7: Well, if that were me, it would be immediate conversations
Speaker 7: starting today with the people of that area. And so
Speaker 7: I wish them the best. It is really hard work,
Speaker 7: really tough work. I commend the superintendent for putting out
Speaker 7: there what the need is. That's exactly what we did,
Speaker 7: and I'm only grateful that the people of Cincinnati said
Speaker 7: yes to us last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, it's a well earned win. But
Speaker 2: I think it's if you weren't making progress, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be happening, right. I agree with you an Thok about
Speaker 2: chronic captainteeism scores, and there's schools that are our way
Speaker 2: under failing rate, and it's a whole host of different
Speaker 2: problems in the city than it is in the burps.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, we do have the number one state in the
Speaker 7: number one school in Ohio. We do have the best
Speaker 7: performing arts school. We do have elementary schools that are improving.
Speaker 7: We do have a school for gifted and exceptional children
Speaker 7: that enrollment is growing because of some changes that we
Speaker 7: made with our growth plan. And so we do have
Speaker 7: athletes who are selling, We have artists who are doing really,
Speaker 7: really well. We are increasing our career and technical education
Speaker 7: experiences for young people. We have something for everyone, and
Speaker 7: we have a space for everyone.
Speaker 2: One of the other elements of this too, I wonder
Speaker 2: how this is IFIs factored at all in the parent's decision.
Speaker 2: Is another controversial thing with transportation, right taking the seventh
Speaker 2: and twelfth graders and put them on Metro busses alike.
Speaker 2: Was that the right move in retrospect? I mean you
Speaker 2: had to make that move financially speaking.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so let's start at mister Song. Financially speaking, every
Speaker 7: Yellow Bus student it is about three thousand. Every Metro
Speaker 7: student is about three hundred dollars, and so we had
Speaker 7: to be fiscally responsible knowing that that was an option.
Speaker 7: So actually two years ago we put the majority of
Speaker 7: our seventh graders back on the Metro, and this past
Speaker 7: year we put our remaining schools maybe there were about
Speaker 7: four schools or so with seventh and eighth graders and
Speaker 7: the shift to the middle schools in junior highs, and
Speaker 7: so we did have some experience in that area.
Speaker 5: We've worked very closely with Metro.
Speaker 7: We meet with them and talk with them on a
Speaker 7: regular and consistent basis. When we do run into problems, hey,
Speaker 7: we start the conversation and we problem solve together.
Speaker 2: Juvenile crime has been a problem, especially the summer months
Speaker 2: when when those hands are off but it's been a
Speaker 2: year on and we changed the metro cards in order
Speaker 2: to say you can't come downtown and off hours. This
Speaker 2: is for school and for school only. What else have
Speaker 2: you done behind the scenes. Maybe we haven't heard about that.
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, absolutely so with the metro cars, we do
Speaker 7: cut them off a little bit earlier. We do have
Speaker 7: cars that designate whether a kid should need to transfer.
Speaker 5: We have reduced it to a minute.
Speaker 7: I'm a number of kids who have to transfer, and
Speaker 7: no more than one transfer. In addition to that, we're
Speaker 7: a positive school culture district. So we teach, and we
Speaker 7: reteach and we restore. Kids make mistakes. People make mistakes.
Speaker 7: They do mess up. Sometimes it's a particular population of
Speaker 7: the student body that it's very visible for. But I
Speaker 7: am grateful for the community partners who have helped us
Speaker 7: in reducing some of the issues that we solved two
Speaker 7: years ago, three years ago, and so we'll continue to partner,
Speaker 7: We continue to work on it, and we continue to
Speaker 7: work together.
Speaker 5: It takes all hands on decks.
Speaker 2: You're going to solve it by any means, and there's
Speaker 2: going to be a certain percentage you're not going to
Speaker 2: be able to reach. It's just human nature. But I
Speaker 2: think people voters probably appreciated the fact and that nuance
Speaker 2: that improvements we're being made now is it's still too high. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but again I look at it and say, there's only
Speaker 2: some that you can control. I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: this happens at home too. You can't go at people's
Speaker 2: houses and raise the kids either.
Speaker 7: I feel like this worked with young people in terms
Speaker 7: of getting them educated as a home school community partnership,
Speaker 7: and when that breaks down, then we have trouble. Right now,
Speaker 7: I am very, very encouraged by the level of communication
Speaker 7: with home, with school, with community. We will continue to
Speaker 7: dig into that and make this city the best city
Speaker 7: it can be.
Speaker 2: All Right, So you got another ten years. What happens
Speaker 2: in the next ten years?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: So wan, So the next ten years, guess what think
Speaker 7: about those three year olds? Okay, they'll be thirteen in
Speaker 7: their middle school days, which is the area that we're
Speaker 7: working to develop and strengthen. It should be a better
Speaker 7: outlook for them. Then that means they're headed to high school.
Speaker 7: And then we look towards graduation day. My favorite days
Speaker 7: of school. There are two, the first day of school
Speaker 7: and graduation day. There's nothing more fulfilling than seeing a
Speaker 7: young person go across that stage, get their diploma and
Speaker 7: head into being employed and listed in the military or
Speaker 7: enrolled in the college or university of their choice.
Speaker 2: Or trade school or trade school. Absolutely a big proponent
Speaker 2: of the trades myself. I'm involved with groups that do that,
Speaker 2: and I know personally for Sam because the group I
Speaker 2: was in till recently, in Spirit of Constructions, we are
Speaker 2: programs in Woodward and it's like in thirty something schools
Speaker 2: right now, because I mean, let's face it, we lose
Speaker 2: lost so many kids, generations of kids because we only
Speaker 2: taught one way to learn. And now it's like applied
Speaker 2: mathematics or physics or all the things that you would learn.
Speaker 2: Now I can touch it seat and feel it. I
Speaker 2: have an incentive to go to school. I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm connected now and not, you know, some sort of
Speaker 2: freak because I don't understand when we put numbers and
Speaker 2: letters together like I did with algebra, I'm like, I'm out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 7: No, you're living out your dream. You're doing what you want.
Speaker 5: To killing to you.
Speaker 7: And I was blessed to be able to start eleven
Speaker 7: years at Woodward Career Technical High School where we train
Speaker 7: kids and how technologies feel, building construction fields and advanced manufacturing.
Speaker 7: We grew that out this year we added entrepreneurship. You
Speaker 7: know why because the kids that I want to know
Speaker 7: how to be an entrepreneurial business and we are looking
Speaker 7: forward to adding even more programming in terms of having.
Speaker 5: Automotive is another area.
Speaker 7: That kids are asking all that stuff back, bringing those
Speaker 7: pieces back.
Speaker 2: One of the one of the biggest mistakes I think
Speaker 2: was doing a farming that out and not that you know,
Speaker 2: the Oaks system is great, but you know, having an
Speaker 2: in school is good. We got to get go on
Speaker 2: you do. To Seanna Murphy, CBS Superintendent, thanks again for
Speaker 2: coming in. Congradulation, pleasure. Thank you SNY with News on
Speaker 2: the Way and Julie on the job next seven hundred.
Speaker 1: Helping you navigate the rocky path of fulfilling employment. Here's
Speaker 1: our career sure, Julie Balki.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she jumped on the show every Wednesday morning a
Speaker 2: little career tune up, and I think today, Julie, this
Speaker 2: would be a great day to in the office or
Speaker 2: worklow whatever it is. Talk about the election. A lot
Speaker 2: to your co core and get take a firm stand
Speaker 2: on one side or the other and espouse your political
Speaker 2: views and call them stupid for announcing it your way.
Speaker 2: I think that's a great strategy.
Speaker 6: There really is where where put flags up on your desk,
Speaker 6: where your hat you're starts this pumping these people taunt people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would totally think about doing that right now. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a Democrat and you want, i'd
Speaker 2: be like, you know, getting in someone's face. And then
Speaker 2: if you're a Republican you lost and yelling at people
Speaker 2: how you're ruining the country. I think that's a good
Speaker 2: I think that's solid, a solid strategy for workplace, the
Speaker 2: workplace environment. I think it's a good idea. Yeah, some
Speaker 2: people will be doing.
Speaker 6: That, tod Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What's not
Speaker 6: what's not?
Speaker 4: What's not? Say we did?
Speaker 2: My dad used to say, good lord, there's people that
Speaker 2: do that stuff. I don't know. I don't know. All right,
Speaker 2: So Amazon's laying off like fourteen thousand corporate employees. We're
Speaker 2: back to the AI topic. The biggest corporate job cuts
Speaker 2: in history. I believe of Amazon, they could affect in
Speaker 2: the upwards of thirty thousand employees. So you cut me
Speaker 2: fourteen thousand, it's gonna affect thirty thousand overall. And it's
Speaker 2: not just unique to Amazon Metas did it, Microsoft, Google.
Speaker 2: Tons of companies are doing Kroger, maybe for different reasons.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's AI related or not. But
Speaker 2: the bottom line is companies can grow to the revenue
Speaker 2: with fewer employers because of AI. That's really what's going
Speaker 2: on here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting because we have all these these several
Speaker 6: things that are true at once that are conflicting. One
Speaker 6: of the things I was reading this article about the
Speaker 6: Amazon laffs from fourteen thousand, now, like you said, but
Speaker 6: up to thirty thousand. It's so that here's their official statement.
Speaker 6: We want to get even stronger by further reducing bureaucracy,
Speaker 6: removing layers, and shifting resources to ensure we're investing in
Speaker 6: our biggest bet and what matters most to our customers,
Speaker 6: curt and future needs. It's so interesting because I think,
Speaker 6: you know, you push that too far, you won't have
Speaker 6: any customers because people won't be able to afford what
Speaker 6: it is you're selling.
Speaker 3: You know, what are we doing?
Speaker 6: And I get the idea of every company I was reading,
Speaker 6: you know, all this, all these companies saying we're going
Speaker 6: to continue to grow, including Walmarts is saying we're going
Speaker 6: to continue to grow, but we're going to keep our
Speaker 6: employee count flat, which means AI. Of course, the companies
Speaker 6: have it fully figured out how to use it, but
Speaker 6: it also means shifting more work onto the people that
Speaker 6: are left onto the people that are left behind, and
Speaker 6: people are already saying I've had enough, I'm highly stressed.
Speaker 6: I don't want to take time off. I want to
Speaker 6: hang on to this job. And so it turns into
Speaker 6: a workforce that is an efsence thank you start going
Speaker 6: to have.
Speaker 8: Another right, and that is a really really, really long term,
Speaker 8: bad long term strategy because people aren't humans, you know,
Speaker 8: kind of this guy that came out and said the
Speaker 8: quiet part out loud a couple of months ago, talking
Speaker 8: about AI, he said, yeah, I'm looking forward to replacing
Speaker 8: people with AI because robots don't talk back, robots don't.
Speaker 6: Take time off. I'm like, okay, you know that's really
Speaker 6: because we talk about the challenge of leaving a workforce,
Speaker 6: the challenge of managing the challenge of dealing with people's
Speaker 6: issues and problems, the stuff that if you are if
Speaker 6: you've got a warehouse full of robot or just a
Speaker 6: fully automated warehouse, you don't have to deal with those things.
Speaker 6: You're dealing with things that can be fixed and that
Speaker 6: can be fixed without dealing with the gray areas. People
Speaker 6: they fill off on time they work, and so that's
Speaker 6: there's almost like this this giddiness with some company leaders
Speaker 6: saying how far can we prosh this? But you're you're
Speaker 6: also you're also forgetting that when people are unemployed, homeless,
Speaker 6: have nothing, they can't buy yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are we answer?
Speaker 6: How do you know, how do you strike that?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 6: I certainly don't have any answer, but it's a big
Speaker 6: question I think we need to deal with.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the dynamic of automation makes stuff cheaper
Speaker 2: because it's cheaper than labor. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: is to be careless or cruel. That's just the fact
Speaker 2: of it, right, is it? Ai? You're right, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: There are no sick days, there's no hey, my my
Speaker 2: kids home, I got to stay home. You know, you
Speaker 2: do need people to do it, but you know, for
Speaker 2: people to say, okay, well this is it. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to have to We're gonna get rid all
Speaker 2: of these jobs and stuff. I'd say the global perspective,
Speaker 2: big picture is, Look, there's always been technicological shifts, right,
Speaker 2: There's always been a game changer out there. AI's latest
Speaker 2: of that. You know how many people lost their jobs
Speaker 2: when the automobile came along. That we're in, you know,
Speaker 2: the livery business and livery and you know, horses and
Speaker 2: barns and hay farmers and okay, horse are going away.
Speaker 2: We've got the automobile. It just creates a new sector
Speaker 2: of jobs, that's all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it does, but I think it's going to create
Speaker 6: less jobs.
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting.
Speaker 6: But when you look also at the demographics, fewer people.
Speaker 6: I mean that birth rates are down and integration of
Speaker 6: courses down, and so the number of people to do
Speaker 6: those jobs is going to be less. So we have
Speaker 6: to see how this is. We have to see how
Speaker 6: this is going to play out. But it's really really confusing. Look,
Speaker 6: if I was eighteen or twenty two, or my job
Speaker 6: is going away. It's like everybody I talked to, no
Speaker 6: one knows which way to turn. And all the experts
Speaker 6: I thought are kind of or a little a little
Speaker 6: uh loss too when it comes to what do you
Speaker 6: tell people, what do you tell people to learn? What
Speaker 6: do you tell people to mar it? Yeah, it's just
Speaker 6: it's a very interesting shift. And we see read a
Speaker 6: more article that was talking about how many new college.
Speaker 5: Grads because we've talked about for the.
Speaker 6: Bottleneck of the last couple of years with new college
Speaker 6: grads not being able to find any what we used
Speaker 6: to call white collar jobs, and they are, they are switching.
Speaker 6: There's a movement to say, you know, I gotta work
Speaker 6: and maybe I take and reskill towards the trades. And
Speaker 6: so there's there's and it's healthy in some ways, but
Speaker 6: we really are in the ugly parts of it where
Speaker 6: we have there's all these competing factors that are really
Speaker 6: that have people stopped. That's not just twenty five year olds,
Speaker 6: but it's forty five and fifty five year olds that
Speaker 6: still need to work, don't have the luxury of retiring.
Speaker 2: Julie Belka our career Sure up on the Scotsland Show
Speaker 2: seven hundred WW the Big AI moment here Amma's on
Speaker 2: laying off fourteen thousand effect thirty thousand jobs, A bunch
Speaker 2: of big tech companies are doing it, and I think
Speaker 2: it's interesting that this is what the manufacturing industry went
Speaker 2: through in the eighties, seventies and eighties, and that is
Speaker 2: robotics coming in and replacing factory jobs and eventually that
Speaker 2: those jobs got farmed out. But now the white collar
Speaker 2: folks are seeing it because my parents blue collar folks.
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you're going to school, you have no choice. Okay,
Speaker 2: I got thought through it. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I look at it going, yeah, this is what they
Speaker 2: went through back in the seventies and eighties with automation.
Speaker 2: This is just AI now taking white collar jobs. So
Speaker 2: it used to be blue collar. Now white collar jobs
Speaker 2: are getting hit by this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you.
Speaker 6: Think it's this for demarcation between blue collar jobs and
Speaker 6: white collar jobs.
Speaker 3: Right, how about the dogs?
Speaker 2: How don't we call them jobs the jobs?
Speaker 6: And yeah, if you are technically skilled, if you love
Speaker 6: working with your hands, if you've got that, you may
Speaker 6: be an engineer. You also might be an auto mechanic.
Speaker 6: And that's okay. I think we have to get we
Speaker 6: had to get our head out of this away from
Speaker 6: this idea that there's one path in this country to
Speaker 6: what we call success because that those days are long gone.
Speaker 6: Just ask anybody who's out there with a four year degree,
Speaker 6: who's been out of school for two years or less,
Speaker 6: how they're feeling about this this path to you know,
Speaker 6: this school, this golden brick road to success that they
Speaker 6: feel like they were promised. You know, there are a
Speaker 6: lot of cases are just they're so demoralized and just
Speaker 6: can't seem to get a toe hold in the market.
Speaker 6: And it's just, you know, it's it's I wish I
Speaker 6: had the one you know, I wish I had the
Speaker 6: one answer.
Speaker 2: But I'll bring it, Julie. I'll bring this back to
Speaker 2: politics for a second. With mom. Danny went into New
Speaker 2: York City. It's a lot of gen zers, younger millennials,
Speaker 2: and these are young professionals, you know, world enough. Remember
Speaker 2: back in the you know, like in the eighties when
Speaker 2: you had the Reagan Republicans who took Wall Street and
Speaker 2: everything else and greet Is Good and Gordon Gecko and
Speaker 2: that was a huge wave and no one, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: these young people and they want conservatism now, don't know
Speaker 2: what that is. Fast forward a couple of generations, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of what's happening in New York, and if
Speaker 2: you look at that effect also Jersey, Virginia, hell leaving
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, we saw Anderson Township flip blue, Fortel
Speaker 2: school Board flip blue. So it's not just an outlier.
Speaker 2: They're the big margins that city council, in particular, Raft
Speaker 2: had pure vault won by despite all the you know,
Speaker 2: the crime issues and the connected communities and Hyde Park
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. The big picture on this when
Speaker 2: it comes to job, I think there's just a bunch
Speaker 2: of young people are angry and pissed off and are
Speaker 2: so desperate they'd vote for a socialist because there's a
Speaker 2: promise of a better life with them that they're not
Speaker 2: seeing right now. I think that's translating what we're talking
Speaker 2: about here, and that I did everything I was supposed
Speaker 2: to do. I went to college's got a degree. Now
Speaker 2: I've got debt, I can't afford anything. I've got roommates.
Speaker 2: I should be living on my own. I'm frustrated. I'm
Speaker 2: taking it out on capitalism. Is that kind of what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's definitely some of that because the young people,
Speaker 6: when you look at so this past summer, we reached
Speaker 6: that mark for gen Z outnumbered boomers at work, and
Speaker 6: so every day that goes by more I mean duh,
Speaker 6: more older people die and younger people become adults. And
Speaker 6: so the world they grew up in, the world they
Speaker 6: see right now is very different than the one you
Speaker 6: and I saw. And they don't feel like they can
Speaker 6: own a house, they can do this, they can do that,
Speaker 6: and they're angry, and they aren't getting married, they aren't
Speaker 6: having kids. I mean, there's a lot of that stuff
Speaker 6: that goes on, and anything that the older generations do
Speaker 6: that just feels like we're patting them on the head
Speaker 6: and say just work harder, you know, feels.
Speaker 2: Like right now, right I'm ready working. I've got a job,
Speaker 2: I got side hustles, I got roommates, I can't work
Speaker 2: any article. And not only that, health insurance is a mess.
Speaker 2: I can't afford that. I got college dead, I got loans,
Speaker 2: I've got all this overhead, and I just can't seem
Speaker 2: to save any money and get had. I totally get that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And that's that's what we're starting to see that.
Speaker 6: And I think politically it's just fascinating to watch because
Speaker 6: as you see this generation get older and become more
Speaker 6: aware of what's going on around them, like what their
Speaker 6: possibility as and opportunities are. They will become more active,
Speaker 6: whether it's in voting, whether it's running for office, just
Speaker 6: like we talk about in the smaller microcosm of the
Speaker 6: world the workplace. It's I always say, the more younger
Speaker 6: people get into leadership positions, the more they will embrace
Speaker 6: hybrid work. They will reject return to the office. They
Speaker 6: will they will do things their way, and that works
Speaker 6: in the bigger picture as well. And so it's their world.
Speaker 4: I mean that.
Speaker 6: Boomers, you know, we're going to die sooner than they are,
Speaker 6: and so they look around and say, it's the world.
Speaker 6: What's the world I want it to be? And of
Speaker 6: course we're going to tis and shake our heads, just
Speaker 6: like the generations ahead.
Speaker 5: Of us did.
Speaker 6: But it's you know, there's no turning that back around.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know works right. It's like the younger
Speaker 2: generation takes over and it's supposed to offend the sensibilities
Speaker 2: of older generations. So that's the way it's always been.
Speaker 2: I accept that, and I realize I'm in the the
Speaker 2: back half of that. And watch, okay, well, as your
Speaker 2: turnout to screw things up, and then you know, in
Speaker 2: thirty years, your kids will be crapping on what you did,
Speaker 2: and I'll probably go the other way, and so it.
Speaker 6: Goes Yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, it'd be interesting
Speaker 6: to have a crystal ball and look ahead. Not sure
Speaker 6: i'd want to, you know, I got to go both sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just doing an interesting experiment to see what
Speaker 2: happens to New York with socialism, because those promises are
Speaker 2: I think they're just promises, you know, all the stuff
Speaker 2: he wants to impose. I don't think it's going to work,
Speaker 2: but I get I get the desperateness of young people
Speaker 2: going listen, I just I'm tired of the same bs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, and to feel like and when we
Speaker 6: see this at work. So one of the ways that
Speaker 6: organizations are really failing here is they're still leading from
Speaker 6: the top down, pats on the head, I'll tell you
Speaker 6: what to do, instead of engaging with and getting the
Speaker 6: ideas of everybody. And that's what the younger generations want.
Speaker 6: They do have good ideas, and it is their workplace
Speaker 6: they're building, and so anything that smacks of i'll tell
Speaker 6: you what to think, I'll tell you what to do.
Speaker 6: Do as I say, not as I do is immediately
Speaker 6: rejected by the younger generations. They're so they can snip
Speaker 6: out in authenticity so quickly. Where we, you know, frankly,
Speaker 6: kind of did what we were told.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely a cultural shift America's driving
Speaker 2: with the AI thing is I think the next thing
Speaker 2: is like, well, wait a minute, I did it on
Speaker 2: a sister, I got a degree, and now I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get a reply. I can't get a job because AI.
Speaker 2: And that's going to cause people to act the way
Speaker 2: they did when it comes to voting and getting involved
Speaker 2: in the in the process and those two that are
Speaker 2: tied together. It's a workplace and also your vote. Julie
Speaker 2: Bouki our career Shirpound in the Scott Sloane Show every
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. She's at the Bauki Group. She's a career
Speaker 2: coach and consultant. She and her team ready to go
Speaker 2: to work for you. If you're trying to navigate these things,
Speaker 2: She's got you. Jewels, all the best, have a great week,
Speaker 2: all right, with that news update in just minutes here
Speaker 2: on the Big one seven hundred WLW veryly as the
Speaker 2: election fallout. I'll have more on this. Jeff Weckbach here
Speaker 2: from Coloring Townships, the administrator there. They a levy their
Speaker 2: past and they've been trying to do this for like
Speaker 2: ten years and get a new police levy for Coleraine Township.
Speaker 2: I know we focused a lot on the actual job
Speaker 2: of politicians, right and whether it's city council or the
Speaker 2: mayor's office or whatever. But we had a lot of
Speaker 2: financial issues out there, money issues and initiatives, and the
Speaker 2: CHLORI one passed. They just had Seana Murphy on about
Speaker 2: a half hour ago. An hour ago, actually, Shaun was
Speaker 2: in studio CPS superintendent about their big win. And you
Speaker 2: look at what happened in places like Lakota, the laws
Speaker 2: big that I think was just too big an ask
Speaker 2: for the folks in Lakota quite honestly, half billion dollars
Speaker 2: or just forty eight million for Cincinnati, and that was
Speaker 2: just a renewal. But he's coming up in just a
Speaker 2: few here. We'll talk about the financial side of that thing,
Speaker 2: and also kicking around what happened last night with AFTAD
Speaker 2: perrival not only winning but also winning by almost eight
Speaker 2: and ten voters voted for AFTAD Puerval, despite what happened
Speaker 2: to the chief, despite the crime, despite the violence, despite
Speaker 2: the connected communities in Hyde Park, he overwhelmed by an
Speaker 2: overwhelming margin and certainly by all stretching accounts, that is
Speaker 2: a mandate eight out of ten voters. Question is now
Speaker 2: how to govern with that? You know? Do you simply go, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to do the way things we
Speaker 2: are doing with crime and just let things slide. And
Speaker 2: apparently voters didn't care about that. In granted, you know,
Speaker 2: some people will portray Cincinnati as a dystopian hellhole and
Speaker 2: all near all fifty two neighbor it's not. It's certain
Speaker 2: sections at certain times in particular crimes. But these high
Speaker 2: profile crimes definitely hurt Cincinnati and help it hurts the
Speaker 2: people who want to build on there. At a gentleman
Speaker 2: on yesterday, they want to shot that video around the
Speaker 2: nightclub and you know, finding a gun laying in the
Speaker 2: in the grass literally steps away from the shots were fired.
Speaker 2: This is a guy trying to invest in downtown and
Speaker 2: build and make affordable housing and everything else. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you have that in your backyard, it makes it
Speaker 2: awfully tough to rent. So those are the uphill battles
Speaker 2: this new consul is facing and not all the other
Speaker 2: thing too, is not really a new council. Two people
Speaker 2: are new because of the two seats that are missing.
Speaker 2: Everything pretty much stayed the same. I think that's the
Speaker 2: most interesting takeaway here. We'll get into that much more
Speaker 2: just ahead, as the fall of continues this Wednesday, plus
Speaker 2: the death toll and Louisville with the ups crash yesterday
Speaker 2: late late yesterday afternoon and early evening is now at nine.
Speaker 2: Governor Bsher saying there's still sixteen people on accounted for.
Speaker 2: I got can you imagine at lays down all this
Speaker 2: and more news in just minutes? Slooney, I'm the home
Speaker 2: of the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WWT SINCNTI do
Speaker 2: you want to be an American Scott flumshow on seven
Speaker 2: hundred w WELWT. Coming off the big election last night,
Speaker 2: A big shocker of course, across the border. It came
Speaker 2: to the political party in control. Let be the Democrats
Speaker 2: all the way from the east coast in Jersey, all
Speaker 2: the way through Anderson Township and school boards. More on
Speaker 2: that later on, but those are some interesting levy issues
Speaker 2: out there in cole Rain last year handled some fifty
Speaker 2: thousand calls a service last year a number of high
Speaker 2: profile crimes as well. And in the past two attempts
Speaker 2: of voters in Colorin Township did not approve a funding
Speaker 2: levee for police. Yesterday, fifty three percent of voters said yes, yes,
Speaker 2: we need a police levey. Jeff Weckboch is here is
Speaker 2: the administrator of Coloring Township. Welcome to the show. Good morning,
Speaker 2: and congratulations morning Scott.
Speaker 9: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, appreciate it. It's been more than a deccan,
Speaker 2: I believe since the last level was approved. So the
Speaker 2: last one, as I recall, five year funding levey, and
Speaker 2: you stretched that out twice as long as it should
Speaker 2: have been. Why did it win this time?
Speaker 9: You know, that's a great question. I think we listened
Speaker 9: after the past two failures and we heard a lot
Speaker 9: of feedback from the residents about where we should be
Speaker 9: prioritizing funding and what we should be putting dollars toward.
Speaker 9: And we took that to heart and we put a
Speaker 9: lot of our dollars from our general fund into our
Speaker 9: police departments. And you know, we then started to focus
Speaker 9: on making sure that we were appropriately responding to crime
Speaker 9: with the resources we had, and I think that that
Speaker 9: certainly helped letting the residents see that our level of
Speaker 9: service is where they wanted it to be, so that
Speaker 9: they could trust us to continue to provide that level
Speaker 9: of service for five more years.
Speaker 2: But you think too that, you know, fifty thousand calls
Speaker 2: for service is pretty significant for the size of call
Speaker 2: rain and what's been happening when the residents call nine
Speaker 2: point one has been staffing issue? Have people notice that, like, hey,
Speaker 2: we need to fund the police department here because the
Speaker 2: service times are getting Has that been an issue there?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd say that's probably a little bit of what
Speaker 9: was going on. So after the last two levees, we
Speaker 9: did have to make some cutbacks in terms of what
Speaker 9: we responded to and how we could respond with our
Speaker 9: current officer complements and when you break down shift schedules
Speaker 9: and all that fun stuff and different designations, we typically
Speaker 9: run about six officers on the street at any one time,
Speaker 9: and so when you start to do the simple map
Speaker 9: on fifty thousand calls a year, you know, our officers
Speaker 9: are just responding from call to call to call, and
Speaker 9: not all calls are created equal. Some calls are going
Speaker 9: to require two to three officer responses, some are going
Speaker 9: to require one. And you know, the priority is always
Speaker 9: going to be the response to the calls that are
Speaker 9: going to have the greatest impact on safety. And so
Speaker 9: that may have meant that some of our lower level
Speaker 9: calls we're getting pushed down on sort of the scale
Speaker 9: actual and we were responding to them when we were
Speaker 9: able to, as opposed to immediately.
Speaker 2: And as it's approved, I believe you're going to get
Speaker 2: seven more officers. There's additional patrol beat that will happen,
Speaker 2: more traffic enforcement and obviously is what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: faster response times and quicker turnarounds when it comes to
Speaker 2: solving cases or working cases, and you can be a
Speaker 2: little bit more pre out, proactive. Give some breathing room here.
Speaker 2: A relative to the seven officers, how quickly can you
Speaker 2: get them on the ground and what's that timeline that
Speaker 2: for trying.
Speaker 9: We've got a great team internally that because of some
Speaker 9: of the culture things that they've done, they've been out
Speaker 9: and about and I have full confidence that they're going
Speaker 9: to be able to recruit and fill those positions pretty quickly,
Speaker 9: probably within three to six months we'll be able to
Speaker 9: have those positions filled, and then you're looking at another
Speaker 9: three months or so to actually get them up to
Speaker 9: speed and getting those officers deployed into our community. So
Speaker 9: within the year, I fully expect we'll be up and
Speaker 9: have those some positions all filled.
Speaker 2: What's the additional patrol beat? What is that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so right now we have five dedicated patrol beats.
Speaker 9: We're going to be creating a sixth. What this is
Speaker 9: going to do is allow us to keep a car
Speaker 9: more in Western coal Raine. Right now, if there is
Speaker 9: a call that requires a second car to respond to,
Speaker 9: oftentimes we're having a pool from different parts of the community.
Speaker 9: This is going to allow us to keep an officer
Speaker 9: out there more frequently. So by having that extra patrol beat,
Speaker 9: just the extra boots on the ground to respond to
Speaker 9: crimes and be responsive and proactive in.
Speaker 8: What we do.
Speaker 2: Jeff Weckbach, Administrative for Colorine Township and the Levy Pass there.
Speaker 2: Third time is the charm, I guess, so you're going
Speaker 2: to get more policing, more money for police. Do you
Speaker 2: think that what's happening in Cincinnati and the city relative
Speaker 2: to crime there and high profile crimes and the fact
Speaker 2: that you're two hundred cops short and a lot of
Speaker 2: candidates made a lot of hay out and didn't get elected,
Speaker 2: but made hay on. It certainly got everyone's attention. Have
Speaker 2: been the big story for the second half of the
Speaker 2: year's crime in Cincinnati. Did that help voters in Chlorine
Speaker 2: Township push them in this direction? You think?
Speaker 9: You know, I'm not sure what the individual voters were
Speaker 9: going through as they were kind of at the ballot box. Sure, certainly,
Speaker 9: I know we we like to focus on making sure
Speaker 9: that we're keeping our community safe, right, and so that
Speaker 9: was the biggest message we were bringing home is that
Speaker 9: this this levee, if it were to pass, is going
Speaker 9: to help not only keep col Rain safe, but help
Speaker 9: us become a safer community.
Speaker 6: In the long run.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know, my expectation is we'll be doing
Speaker 9: that by adding some police officers to the force and
Speaker 9: being able to retain what we've got.
Speaker 2: I think if you able to call right and you
Speaker 2: look at that and go, wow, if we neglect funding
Speaker 2: our police services, that that could be where we're had.
Speaker 2: I could totally see someone Chlorine thinking that way, because
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned the staffing shortage is alike, it's
Speaker 2: hurt your ability to investigate them and solve some of
Speaker 2: these whole high profile crimes. Not that you're not, but
Speaker 2: it just takes longer. You can't be as proactive and
Speaker 2: when you look at what's going on the state, I
Speaker 2: can't help as a resident going all right this, So
Speaker 2: you know, we probably need to fund the police here.
Speaker 2: We don't want to run in the problems that they're
Speaker 2: having in the city. I think voters maybe in the
Speaker 2: polling place made that connection for your talking. I don't
Speaker 2: know what, forty eight bucks a year whatever, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: like that seems to be worth it to me. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a low buy in.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 9: we've got some specialized units, right, so we've got the
Speaker 9: impact units. Their focus is on those high profile crimes.
Speaker 9: And over the past several years they've taken enough bent
Speaker 9: and all and other things off the streets in Cold
Speaker 9: Rain that that could have really really harmed our residents.
Speaker 9: You know, the volume that they've actually gotten off the
Speaker 9: streets was enough that could have killed every resident in
Speaker 9: Cole Rain if everybody were to ingest it all at
Speaker 9: the same time. So they've they've certainly had an impact
Speaker 9: to the name of their unit. And you know, because
Speaker 9: of this levee, we're going to be able to continue
Speaker 9: to do more of those things to be proactive and
Speaker 9: actually curb the crime, to hopefully keep it all out
Speaker 9: of Colrain.
Speaker 2: Are you going to see more of that then as
Speaker 2: a result of.
Speaker 9: This, I think so yeah. I mean you're going to
Speaker 9: see any time that you're ranning on right, you're going
Speaker 9: to see sort of an uptick in some of your numbers,
Speaker 9: just initially because you are making more stops, you are
Speaker 9: finding and solving more of those cases up front. And
Speaker 9: then the idea is that the message starts to get
Speaker 9: out right that if you're going to do bad things
Speaker 9: in col Rain, you're going to be found and so
Speaker 9: hopefully then that just naturally deters that crime from our community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is in a rare view, but if the
Speaker 2: levee had failed instead of passed yesterday, what kind of
Speaker 2: cuts what would you have seen?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, our our trustees were going to have
Speaker 9: some pretty significant conversations about what they would have had
Speaker 9: to do, because you can't skill a four to five
Speaker 9: million dollar gas just overnight without some major programmatic changes.
Speaker 9: If they wanted to do that all in the police department,
Speaker 9: that would have been probably a third of the apartment.
Speaker 9: I don't think that would have been the direction they
Speaker 9: would have gone, which would have meant that they would
Speaker 9: have had to look at other things, right, So that's
Speaker 9: taking a look at, you know, whether that's our road
Speaker 9: program or our part and cutting back there or cutting
Speaker 9: back and what we do in terms of senior services.
Speaker 9: There was a whole litany of things that they would
Speaker 9: have had to wade through and make policy decisions on.
Speaker 9: So basically looking at anything that is supported through the
Speaker 9: general fund is what they would have had to have done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been ugly, I think, and I
Speaker 2: think voters saw, hey, listen, they stretch this thing twice
Speaker 2: as long as it should have been. And of course
Speaker 2: we know the cost of everything is going up. You
Speaker 2: have not only officers to pay and benefits to give,
Speaker 2: but also there's a lot of material things like like
Speaker 2: you know, patrol and equipment, the hard stuff too. The
Speaker 2: price of that has gone through the roof.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, and we didn't have body camps back in twenty
Speaker 9: fourteen when we left cast eleven, So I mean even
Speaker 9: that yeah, and we've seen those costs go up, you know,
Speaker 9: year over year. But those are things that just weren't
Speaker 9: on our books that are now now.
Speaker 2: This thing passed Jeff black Bock fifty three percent. Not
Speaker 2: it wasn't a It was enough to win obviously too,
Speaker 2: but there wasn't a mandate.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: What would you say to the forty seven percent of
Speaker 2: people who voted against us, how do you prove to
Speaker 2: them this investment was worth it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I think what we're going to do is we're going
Speaker 9: to prove that this investment was worth it over the
Speaker 9: next five years. This this levee was one that sunsets
Speaker 9: in five years, so you know, the mandate and the
Speaker 9: message which I actually sent a message out to our
Speaker 9: team this morning, was just that we've got five years
Speaker 9: to show that, you know, we're one of the best
Speaker 9: police departments in this country and proved to these residents
Speaker 9: that they're worth every dollar that they're paying. And I
Speaker 9: fully believe and expect that our department is going to
Speaker 9: come through and that they're going to do amazing and
Speaker 9: incredible work because I've seen it day in and day out,
Speaker 9: even in response to the past two failures that you know,
Speaker 9: we're going to make this thing happen, and we're going
Speaker 9: to make make cole Rain a better place.
Speaker 2: I don't know if either one of us will be
Speaker 2: around then, but in you know, five ten years, as
Speaker 2: this saying extend your stistics expires, how do you how
Speaker 2: do you sell it at that point? And it'll be
Speaker 2: entirely different political feel I'm sure too, but you know
Speaker 2: you learn from the first two how do you not
Speaker 2: do this again?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So the nice part is at that point it would
Speaker 9: be a renewal levy in five years, right, that's a
Speaker 9: little bit of a different conversation and increase. And beyond that,
Speaker 9: we'll be looking hard at our track record over the
Speaker 9: past five years and being able to point to the
Speaker 9: results improving what we did with those dollars that the
Speaker 9: public can trust it to us to do what we're
Speaker 9: promising here, which is to make Colrain in a safer place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because as said, you know, certainly it's not a
Speaker 2: hotbed for crime, but we're starting to see things happen
Speaker 2: in Chlorine that we haven't seen in years past, and
Speaker 2: I think that concerns long time residents there, especially as
Speaker 2: you get older, you worry about public safety a lot
Speaker 2: more than if you're younger, just because you're more risk averse.
Speaker 2: That fits about right on the west side there in Chlorine.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and crime changes between crime change over the decades,
Speaker 9: and it'll continue to change and evolve, and that's you know,
Speaker 9: part of our mission is to make sure that we're
Speaker 9: changing and evolving with it, that we're responding in the
Speaker 9: best way.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest evolution you've seen over the past decade.
Speaker 2: Let's say, when it comes to crime.
Speaker 9: It's different these days. I'd say that there's been a
Speaker 9: lot of more property crime we've seen in Coal Rain,
Speaker 9: and that's natural when you've got a very busy retail corridor.
Speaker 9: You know, some of the crimes that we've seen with
Speaker 9: things like the fake calls for school incidents, so that's
Speaker 9: certainly been surprising, and those that eat up a lot
Speaker 9: of resources, and so, you know, figuring out how we
Speaker 9: can better address things like that, it's going to be
Speaker 9: one of the challenges that we're going to have.
Speaker 2: As an aside, it seems like I haven't heard as
Speaker 2: many of those these days. Are we starting to figure
Speaker 2: out and separate in the fact from fiction?
Speaker 9: No, I mean, we take every call that we get
Speaker 9: serious as possible, right, because if you don't, then you
Speaker 9: don't want that.
Speaker 2: It seems like I'm just saying it seems like the
Speaker 2: slotting thing for a while, man, it was going on.
Speaker 2: It was like once a week, twice a week in
Speaker 2: some cases. And we haven't heard one of those instances
Speaker 2: in a while, or are we just not reporting on
Speaker 2: it because it's become commonplace. It's not news anymore.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, whether it's swatting, bomb threats, those types
Speaker 9: of things, right, there have been those incidents.
Speaker 6: I think it's just.
Speaker 9: What's going on in the community that day. So what
Speaker 9: gets the headlines?
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, sadly it's a tremendous waste of resources, right
Speaker 2: because you do have to respond if it's really you
Speaker 2: suspect it's not, and that ties up a whole. They
Speaker 2: just cost more money than money you don't have. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you've got some breathing room now to add seven more
Speaker 2: officers and create an additional patrol bead and see more
Speaker 2: traffic enforcement out there. Give residents who voted for this
Speaker 2: a sense that like, hey, this is my tax dollars
Speaker 2: at work. I'm reluctant to pay more in taxes but
Speaker 2: I realize that we have to fund the basic services
Speaker 2: lest we fall into disrepair. And once you do that,
Speaker 2: it doesn't become attractive and owner of property values fall
Speaker 2: and it's not good for the community. So third times
Speaker 2: a charm in Cole Rain. He is Jeff Weckbach, administrator
Speaker 2: there in Cole Rain Township. Congratulations on the big, big
Speaker 2: win last night.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, thanks, Gott. I mean, my expectation is this
Speaker 9: is a big win for the community. So we're going
Speaker 9: to put these dollars to work and we're going to
Speaker 9: make this.
Speaker 6: Place a better place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. Be well, take care.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: It feels as more as politics might get out of control,
Speaker 2: and you know, we send someone to DC or Columbus
Speaker 2: or our local school board maybe and you feel like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is not the person, This is not what I
Speaker 2: voted for. A lot of people have that sense right now,
Speaker 2: and which is why you're seeing a kind of a
Speaker 2: mini repudiation of Trump to some degree, but largely because
Speaker 2: of the economy. And the main issue is your pocketbook.
Speaker 2: It's always been that way. Pocketbook is very, very important,
Speaker 2: and if you feel like you're doing worse than you
Speaker 2: were a year ago, you're going to take it out
Speaker 2: on the incumbents. And we're seeing that across the country today.
Speaker 2: That may change another year next elections, like who knows,
Speaker 2: But at least in this here, I can control that
Speaker 2: kind of money. I can control my police department. I
Speaker 2: don't want to see what's happening in Cincinnati happening here.
Speaker 2: And I understand the values of those who live in
Speaker 2: urban Cincinnati much different than that in westside Coleraine Township.
Speaker 2: But people see that and go, I don't want that
Speaker 2: coming here, And I think that's why people just kind
Speaker 2: of bit the bullet and voted for this thing. You know. Conversely,
Speaker 2: you know there's a lot of school of these passed
Speaker 2: as well. I look at what happened to Lakota kind
Speaker 2: of in my neck of the woods there, and that
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me, because, man, half a billion dollar ask
Speaker 2: is a big, big ask. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: And I understand that it's been kind of misreported that
Speaker 2: these some of these buildings that they just build in
Speaker 2: the nineties have to come down. That's not true. There's
Speaker 2: some I guess, some annexation that's happening, and improvements that
Speaker 2: were made in the nineties. But these are buildings that
Speaker 2: go back, you know, fifty to seventy years, So it's
Speaker 2: not like they're knocking over new buildings that were just built,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty years ago, thirty years ago, which is
Speaker 2: still pretty old in building new ones. Now these are
Speaker 2: way past their way past their expiration date. And yeah,
Speaker 2: when you let it go like that and don't vote
Speaker 2: for the levee, it's just going to continue. Next one
Speaker 2: will be even bigger because they want to fix it
Speaker 2: all and won't and fell swoop. I think that also
Speaker 2: sends a message to I mean, look at CPS. Their
Speaker 2: Levey issue passed and passed quite handily as well, because
Speaker 2: you know, despite what we think of CPS, they made
Speaker 2: some inroads here, maybe not to our liking in particular.
Speaker 2: And if you live in an area where the school
Speaker 2: district you probably look, you down your nose at it.
Speaker 2: Not all the schools and CPS are trash by far.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good schools that to produce good results.
Speaker 2: Biggest issue you have in the city of Cincinnati more
Speaker 2: so than in the suburbs. In fact, his attendance. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you control that. If you're the school
Speaker 2: you can't force the kid to go to school. We
Speaker 2: know you have to go to school, but it's not
Speaker 2: like the teachers and administrators can show up at somebody's
Speaker 2: house and drag them, kicking and screaming to school. That's
Speaker 2: a huge issue there. It certainly is an interesting election
Speaker 2: to follow. Will continue to know Cunningham will take over
Speaker 2: twelve or sixty day. I will point out the fact
Speaker 2: that all the candidates that Willy endorsed failed, So yeah,
Speaker 2: we have another elections local election cycle. He did back
Speaker 2: Trump and Trump once, so I'll give him. Okay, I
Speaker 2: got that one. But man, your local politician, I got
Speaker 2: Willy's endorsement. How's that working out for you? He's like
Speaker 2: the Beangles of politics. Scott Sloan seven hundred w W
Speaker 2: yelling at me.
Speaker 5: Your drums are blown out. But I love to share
Speaker 5: with me what your doctor was saying about Peppa Pig
Speaker 5: the other.
Speaker 2: No, it was my So I'm had my foot surgery
Speaker 2: and I'm doing a little physical therapy on that. Get
Speaker 2: my proprioception back then, Wait the what proprioception? Okay, proper
Speaker 2: reception working on my appropriate reception.
Speaker 5: How's your appropriate exception?
Speaker 2: Sitting there I've always had good propriate reception.
Speaker 5: Good, appropriate exceptions, appropriate, very good.
Speaker 4: Uh No.
Speaker 2: There was a conversation with eaves Drop and I Love
Speaker 2: being a Fly on the Wall and they were talking
Speaker 2: about one of the pt uh the therapists was talking
Speaker 2: about it's just like a Peppa Pig, which makes you know,
Speaker 2: my curiosity pigs. I listened, it was like people, He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how they get away with this. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's like ultra you know, right winger, but uh,
Speaker 2: He's like, I just every time I see the pigs,
Speaker 2: it looks like something phallic. And the now they got
Speaker 2: a new one is the old Grandpa pig and he's
Speaker 2: got your chin hair and it looks like it's the
Speaker 2: hair on.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Why is Pepa Pig so controversial?
Speaker 2: Pepa penis? I don't know. Is it the new Teletubbies?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 5: So you're thee We would put Pepa on a different
Speaker 5: level than Teletubbies, like she's a little bit higher up.
Speaker 2: I will say, tell a Tubbses the all time creepiest show.
Speaker 2: It was just creepy.
Speaker 5: It was awful.
Speaker 2: My kids were that age when it came out and
Speaker 2: they didn't. They're like, I don't want to watch the baby. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was just creepy, just weird, just a weird.
Speaker 5: I've never done drugs, but I would imagine that watching
Speaker 5: Teletubbies is kind of like you're on some sort of drug.
Speaker 5: I'm like, this doesn't feel like it's of this world.
Speaker 5: And what were they anyways, aliens.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to how he's see. I'm looking at
Speaker 2: images of the Peppa Pig and the whole family right now,
Speaker 2: and I just don't see the junk. Looks like that.
Speaker 2: You may have to see to have problems with your proprioception.
Speaker 5: Nonetheless, that's just another penis commercial on these airwaves.
Speaker 2: Just keep them coming, a bunch of guys dancing around
Speaker 2: in some square to Farmers Markets, singing about some drug that.
Speaker 5: We have so many on here. Just add another one
Speaker 5: to the meg all right, let's not.
Speaker 2: Let's not. You're happy that the Dodgers won the World Series.
Speaker 2: I don't. It's almost sense and anything. Ever, I don't
Speaker 2: understand how that is my brain marked by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: That makes it okay if the Dodgers won the World Series. No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 5: So I was salty and I was rooting for for
Speaker 5: the Dodgers as an angry Ruds fan because I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, if you're gonna lose to anyone, it might
Speaker 5: as well be the World Series champs. So this whole
Speaker 5: run of the World Series, I have been rooting for
Speaker 5: this team and I'm glad they got it done in
Speaker 5: Game seven was awesome. It gave us everything.
Speaker 2: That I stayed up to watch. It was really really good.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that, uh, they want tying it
Speaker 2: in their half of the ninth and then they pull
Speaker 2: it and then it's extra innings And can we talk about.
Speaker 5: How incredible the Dodgers pitching is Yamamoto? Do you think
Speaker 5: he wants to play for the Cincinnati Reds?
Speaker 2: Would you like that? Their lineup is killer?
Speaker 5: It's amazing what money can buy.
Speaker 2: Was gonna win it because it was like Rondy A.
Speaker 2: Kirk Gibson back in the day, it's can't hurt, yeah, job,
Speaker 2: and like, oh man, this is gonna be an awesome
Speaker 2: finish for the Jays.
Speaker 5: Got it done in Toronto.
Speaker 2: I was late. I wanted to win really well, grown up?
Speaker 5: Were you mad at the Dodgers?
Speaker 2: Because I'm old enough to know when that when so
Speaker 2: I was a I don't know, as a kid when
Speaker 2: Toronto got franchise. Okay, I grew up in Buffalo, so
Speaker 2: it's like ninety minutes just like you.
Speaker 5: Oh that makes sense for you. Done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I was like a Yankees fan and that too,
Speaker 2: grown and a Reds fan has always been my National
Speaker 2: League team. I love the Reds more than both those teams.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, okay, kind of got into
Speaker 2: the Jay's because there's a proximity there, and then they're
Speaker 2: Triple A teams in Buffalo, so okay, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was kind of pulling for the J's a little bit.
Speaker 5: The numbers.
Speaker 2: I just always always hated the Dodgers.
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of people do hate the Dodgers,
Speaker 5: but damn, they're so good. They're so entertaining. I love
Speaker 5: watching these guys play. Is so impressive on every single level.
Speaker 2: Are good.
Speaker 5: The World Series numbers are in, Yes, twenty five point
Speaker 5: nine million people tuned into Game seven.
Speaker 2: What does that mean.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of people, It's all I know, think
Speaker 5: about twenty five point nine million people.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a.
Speaker 5: Lot of people watching.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like, you know, top one hundred.
Speaker 5: I would say that's pretty good. More people tuned into
Speaker 5: that than NBA. Joe Burrow is alive and well, I
Speaker 5: guess I'm assuming he was at the Bengals Halloween party
Speaker 5: on Monday night. The dude never posts on social media,
Speaker 5: so as soon as he posts, Bengals go crazy. So
Speaker 5: go to Joe Burrow's Instagram and read the comments on
Speaker 5: his latest post, because they do not disappoint. He dressed
Speaker 5: up as the Joker. Oh, and the caption says, I
Speaker 5: did my own makeup and he had a carousel of
Speaker 5: like four or five different picks. But it's it's the
Speaker 5: comments that you got to read.
Speaker 10: Really, how good was a makeup? He did a pretty
Speaker 10: good job Joker. I don't think he did his own
Speaker 10: makeup though. This looks like it was professionally done. Whether
Speaker 10: it was, I don't know. It just looks like a
Speaker 10: really good makeup job.
Speaker 2: Got his mom and dad and studio in a couple.
Speaker 2: I think next week can we talk about that, I'll
Speaker 2: ask him.
Speaker 5: Can we break the news about that though, about the
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow Foundation or are you waiting until they're in
Speaker 5: studio because they did post it on their social media?
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that with the make Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: sponsoring Marty gar here. I'll be king again and Sarah
Speaker 2: will be out there. So Martha almost kids.
Speaker 5: I thought that was really exciting. I'm glad to have
Speaker 5: him a part of it. Yes, So we'll be talking
Speaker 5: to them soon and that'll be here before you know it.
Speaker 5: Fat Tuesday, February seventeenth. I'm I'm seeing it this year
Speaker 5: with our guy Tom Brenneman.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it too. He wanted to depose me
Speaker 2: of my kingdom.
Speaker 5: Like you've been here the five it's been five months.
Speaker 2: I get fired.
Speaker 5: They're going to make you hang out with me all night, slowney,
Speaker 5: you said it, not me. I'm glad that Thomas is here.
Speaker 2: I love Tom. Yeah great, but then he starts jumping
Speaker 2: on me because I'm King of Marty growl like you
Speaker 2: just hold you just sometimes.
Speaker 5: You got to keep people in check around here. You
Speaker 5: make a comment, you got to get a right.
Speaker 2: He's trying to big leg me.
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to hang out with me for like
Speaker 5: five hours on stage. I get it could be a lot.
Speaker 2: I could totally see that. Sarah is a smart report.
Speaker 2: This morning, she's over for meb and the kid Christian.
Speaker 5: Got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 2: Why are you delaying the inevitable?
Speaker 5: Well, because you asked me about the World Series, so
Speaker 5: we knocked that out. Then we talked about Joe Burrow
Speaker 5: because it's trending. I mean, the Bengals didn't do a
Speaker 5: whole lot, so there's not a lot to talk about.
Speaker 5: But yesterday morning they didn't do a whole lot.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything round draft pick.
Speaker 5: Well, Logan Wilson complained about playing for the Bengals and
Speaker 5: they said, see us that they sent him down to
Speaker 5: Dallas to play for the Cowboys, and that's where he's
Speaker 5: got happy.
Speaker 3: He's already making.
Speaker 5: Videos about how excited that he is to be playing
Speaker 5: for the Dallas Cowboys, which are just as bad as
Speaker 5: we are. We're going from one bad defense to the other.
Speaker 5: So I don't know how this is like a big upgrade,
Speaker 5: but I guess he knows something in the locker room
Speaker 5: with the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot of guys that are not happy
Speaker 2: right now. Guys now look at it, going, Wow, this
Speaker 2: is I get out of here. I just got to
Speaker 2: complain cool.
Speaker 5: As yes, yes, So in exchange seventh round draft pick
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Did they work hard? To mean, we don't even know
Speaker 2: how hard they were working today.
Speaker 5: Were at the office?
Speaker 2: We weren't there.
Speaker 5: I don't think that they were at the office.
Speaker 2: Me guess. I think, you know what, we just need
Speaker 2: to win. The coaches guys up a little bit, and
Speaker 2: I cleaned clean some things up in practice, and I
Speaker 2: think we're going to be okay. We can win with
Speaker 2: this group because we've.
Speaker 5: Been doing a lot of winning this group. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: I'm so glad the bye is this weekend. I can't
Speaker 5: handle another heartbreaking close loss like that where the defense,
Speaker 5: the defense loses it for them again.
Speaker 2: I can't get blown out, is what you want? Just
Speaker 2: go let's go back to the fifty two to three.
Speaker 5: I don't know which one's worse. It's all bad.
Speaker 2: But he's in college football.
Speaker 5: But with Logan Wilson. He was in the locker room
Speaker 5: yesterday saying his goodbye.
Speaker 2: Oh you need to change a scene, really, I think so.
Speaker 5: He told the guys that he's just a phone call away.
Speaker 5: Both Barrett Carter and Demetrius say that Logan was the
Speaker 5: first to reach out to them when they were drafted,
Speaker 5: and that they think he's a great guy. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: saving two point five million in capsule.
Speaker 10: Eight, he's out.
Speaker 2: We got a seventh rounder for next year.
Speaker 5: So WHOA.
Speaker 2: How exciting building on something big, big, big here. I
Speaker 2: will say that the market though, man, some of the
Speaker 2: guys that went, you know, like Sauce going to the Colts,
Speaker 2: that's two first round picture, that is a big move
Speaker 2: for all. Well, that's a big as root team twenty
Speaker 2: my first rounder in twenty six and twenty seven.
Speaker 5: But imagining Sauce, you're going from like the worst team
Speaker 5: to the best, Yeah, that was big for him.
Speaker 2: It's pretty break. That's that's pretty big.
Speaker 5: So and he's talking to media, he said he's not
Speaker 5: seeing our comments on social media.
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't care.
Speaker 5: He's like, I don't care. I'm not looking at the comments.
Speaker 5: He says he doesn't pay attention to the trade rumors,
Speaker 5: but he says when it comes to losing, he does
Speaker 5: feel sick for the fans, especially the ones that are
Speaker 5: showing up and sitting in the stands. So at least
Speaker 5: he's aware. And I will say this for our beloved,
Speaker 5: what do you think of Trey? What about what are
Speaker 5: we doing? Eight games left with them and that's it.
Speaker 5: All this money spent playing got this hit back.
Speaker 2: I guess I think they wanted too much for what
Speaker 2: they were getting, and then the hip thing may have
Speaker 2: had influence as well.
Speaker 5: I'm tired.
Speaker 2: You're tired. Yeah, and I've said this before, Sarah tired,
Speaker 2: Sarah Lee.
Speaker 5: I want. I want this team to win.
Speaker 2: The biggest pimp for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5: I love my Bengals, I do, I always will, but
Speaker 5: this is tough.
Speaker 2: On this day. Is wearing a Cincinnati reds connect hat.
Speaker 2: That's how a dune she is with the Bengals.
Speaker 5: Because they're not losing, Okay, not losing. Everyone else is
Speaker 5: losing right now. Well, we have our I mean, I
Speaker 5: have hopes and season snati for this weekend.
Speaker 2: Three guys get hurt on the by this week.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 5: I mean, who's just said, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you see this to the top twelve, Yes, the
Speaker 2: top twelve leaders and miss tackles in the NFL. Yes,
Speaker 2: singles have the top three and I think number twelve,
Speaker 2: So four of the top twelve a third of the
Speaker 2: worst tackling one.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable is that where we're at one hundred and nine missed.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a record, It's going to be bad.
Speaker 5: This is a historic season, historically bad season. Do you
Speaker 5: think do you think Joe Burrow is standing there on
Speaker 5: the sidelines like, actually, I'm good over here. He can
Speaker 5: moke this toe thing for as long as he wants, can't.
Speaker 5: I mean, no one knows how bad the toe feels
Speaker 5: except for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: I know he's got a thing. Is it's not the toe,
Speaker 2: it's appropriate reception.
Speaker 5: It's appropriate reception. Yeah, there you go. Wait is that
Speaker 5: the what is the propriate?
Speaker 2: A proper reception? It is the fun it's connected to.
Speaker 2: You don't know what else you got.
Speaker 4: I do too.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into it because I don't
Speaker 2: want to take away from your brilliance.
Speaker 5: All my brilliance here. I bring so much brilliance to
Speaker 5: the airware. Now, this is just the crap that's trending
Speaker 5: on social media, in case you're not on there. Like
Speaker 5: my dad, who knows nothing about Twitter, X, Instagram or
Speaker 5: Facebook while he's trying to he's trying to learn the
Speaker 5: moment now that he's in retired, I dam it's just
Speaker 5: so toxic. It is very toxic, especially since now the
Speaker 5: Bengals fans are all kind of starting to turn on
Speaker 5: each other. Everybody's arguing, Yeah, I wish I could just
Speaker 5: get like the info and not all the drama. Tough day. Yeah,
Speaker 5: tough day for news too, with everything going on in
Speaker 5: the Leisvelle got me sick to my stomached terrible, and
Speaker 5: I think those numbers just yeah, they just keep going up.
Speaker 5: And now that the now that it's light outside and
Speaker 5: seeing all the damage, not good.
Speaker 2: Not good.
Speaker 5: Eva McPherson was talking to media yesterday, just goes to
Speaker 5: show like how good of a guy Logan Wilson is.
Speaker 5: He said that they were a bunch of them we're
Speaker 5: supposed to go to Disney World together. And he's like, well,
Speaker 5: we'll still keep in touch. He's like, we're still going
Speaker 5: to see each other a lot, even with him going
Speaker 5: down to Dallas. Obviously, Evan macpherson not going anywhere, but
Speaker 5: I would imagine you still go on the Disney World trip.
Speaker 5: That takes a lot of planning to go to Disney World.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's not cheap either.
Speaker 5: No, Christopher just went my co host kid Chris. Everything
Speaker 5: everything is expensive.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I took his daughter's for spring break. Okay, dude, I
Speaker 5: think like a Mickey pretzel is going to set you back.
Speaker 5: Twenty five bucks.
Speaker 2: Were in this. I have no interesting this would have
Speaker 2: been in the I don't know. I think we went
Speaker 2: in the early two in the two thousand, maybe you're
Speaker 2: yeah right around there. It was like back then it
Speaker 2: was like twenty bucks for coke. Oh, forget it, but
Speaker 2: it's refillable, and you just like gladly hand your money
Speaker 2: out and go, oh, we have no choice. The mouse
Speaker 2: makes you just go, oh, here, take my cat. It's
Speaker 2: like going to Vegas? What am I doing?
Speaker 5: What else are you gonna do? Where else are you
Speaker 5: gonna go?
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? What are you gonna dope?
Speaker 5: Someone who's not showing up? Jermaine Burton missing practice again.
Speaker 5: I guess there was a practice on Tuesday, and they
Speaker 5: say he's missed several at this point due to some illness. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Jermaine Burton. I think the illnesses he's probably sick of
Speaker 5: playing for this team. I did notice the worst teams
Speaker 5: are the more injuries happen. My toe hurts. I can't
Speaker 5: show up. I can't do this anymore. This is tough.
Speaker 5: But Tuesday's practice was just for the first and second
Speaker 5: year of players. They say that Joe Burrow was on
Speaker 5: site though, and he has been pretty available to you know,
Speaker 5: the guys in the locker room, and it's not like
Speaker 5: he's hiding or anything. So I don't know, do we
Speaker 5: miss him who right? I mean, would the record be
Speaker 5: any different right now with Joe Burrow. It's not like
Speaker 5: Joe Blacko's not getting it done. I would say forty
Speaker 5: two and thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Points are pretty good. The problem is you got a
Speaker 2: you know, the player personnel guy slash GM whatever he does,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the autonomy to make moves. It's like
Speaker 2: they're not going to do anything.
Speaker 5: Fire Duke.
Speaker 2: What are you going to fire Duke and bring another person?
Speaker 2: I like, I don't know. The attitude's got to change, Like,
Speaker 2: you know what, just because our grandfather, yeah, founded the league, basically,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make his football geniuses. Yeah, we've got to
Speaker 2: get people in Herris. So we've got to spend money
Speaker 2: on scout, we have to spend money on player personnel.
Speaker 2: We've got to spend money on the whole process of
Speaker 2: getting more quality players in here. And then the Actually,
Speaker 2: I think it's all some degree of coaching, because you know,
Speaker 2: guys like now cam Sample for example, play fine in
Speaker 2: college and then he get here and they can't tackle
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I like, I don't get that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor is speaking very highly of his guy out Golden.
Speaker 5: He says he's a great coach, he's got a great staff,
Speaker 5: and he's done great things and he believes in them.
Speaker 5: This is Zach Taylor's words. So Out ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 5: Do you think he's going somewhere He's nuts, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's I don't think it's I don't think it's I
Speaker 2: really don't.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I think it's al I think it's way up the
Speaker 2: food chain there.
Speaker 5: And I do think that there is a problem. There
Speaker 5: is some toxicity in that locker room too, which is said,
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a whole lot of leadership going on,
Speaker 5: especially since Zach has been calling the guys out like hey,
Speaker 5: just looking for someone to step up.
Speaker 2: Who's going to step up up?
Speaker 5: He seems like there's some drama.
Speaker 2: You got the you know, it's not about the best players,
Speaker 2: it's about the right.
Speaker 5: Players, right, And I think even with Jamar Chase talking
Speaker 5: about you know, kind of slipping into that leadership role.
Speaker 5: With Joe Burrow being out, I think he's struggling now too,
Speaker 5: and we saw him kind of not melt down, but
Speaker 5: obviously very frustrated after that loss to the Bears on Sunday.
Speaker 5: So they've got to buy this weekend. Then it doesn't
Speaker 5: get any easier than that. They have to face the
Speaker 5: Steelers in Pittsburgh. They're going to end the month with
Speaker 5: the Ravens, and the.
Speaker 2: Bills didn't wind up getting any people, So I think
Speaker 2: they lost the bye technically, still, Sara, at least in
Speaker 2: my morning. On to Keith christ Show, it's a again
Speaker 2: the snort report here. Not many snorts when your team.
Speaker 5: Sucks, there's nothing really to laugh about.
Speaker 2: Willy is on the way. Next he's going to explain
Speaker 2: why A the candidates he back lost once again.
Speaker 5: It's just true.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred The Bengals of Politics, Bill cunning Bill Cunningham. Next,
Speaker 2: maybe he'll blame Al Golden seven hundred. Don't get another
Speaker 2: Cincinnati