1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: This is the mark Man Show. You like it, you 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: love it, you want more of it. I mean all 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: the things we talked about that haven't coalesced for the 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Steelers after thirteen games, after fourteen weeks, and people talk 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: about they see the offense coming together. We got to 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: a sound bite from Pete Prisco of CBS saying that 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: later what is coming together now week fifteen? Really it's 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: about time, if that's true. But I'm not seeing that 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: and certainly not assuming that it's close. How much can 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: you do on offense when so much is so wrong 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: and the defense relies on takeaways which are sporadic. That 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Dolphins game Monday night, don't forget to watch the game 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: with me at sidelines in Millville. Wings beer, football and Millville. 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: That is a tremendous combination. And I'll get there early, 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: for sure. Sidelines in Millville awesome place. But this Dolphins game, 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get beat by two. I don't think. 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Like Tommy Radio said earlier, he leads the league in 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: interceptions thrown at fourteen. But if I'm Miami, I just 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: pound the ball. I pound the ball with the a train, 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: boom boom, boom until I'm down by two scores, and 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: even then I might pound the ball some more. The 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Steelers can't stop it. Why put the ball in the 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: air at more risk against the team that is among 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: the NFL leaders in takeaways. Now, if they strip the 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: A train, whatever that I mean, you can't have total, 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent absolutely safe ball protection. But I think 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: there's a clear kind of approach for the Dolphins to take. 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: And while I think McDaniel, the offensive guru that's their 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: head coach to four eyed geek, I think he does 30 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: have a tendency to smart himself sometimes with them having 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: won four in a row and now being on the 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: fringe of wild card attention, I don't think he'll do 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: that here. And you got a lot more guys on 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Miami having a big season then you got on the 35 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Steelers having a big season, the A Train, I mentioned him, 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: waddle Brooks at linebacker, on defense. They got quality players 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: at every level. This is gonna be a tougher game, 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: mark my Wortz. Miami at Steelers tougher game than the 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Steelers win at Baltimore. I know the Steelers only won 40 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: by five, but that Baltimore game never felt like the 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: Ravens might win it did it, I don't think so. 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: It always felt like they would come up short, and 43 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: they did Miami with the four straight wins. I think 44 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers are the better team. Probably. That pause just 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: now is to try to talk myself into it. It 46 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: sucks that Watts out. I don't think he's been well. 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: It sucks. You want him to be healthy with the 48 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: lung thing. But it felt like he was due for 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: a big game. I mean, a guy like that, even 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: though he's lost to half a step and he's passed 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: his prime every once in a while, he's still gonna 52 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: have a big game. But I dot very much he's 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: gonna play Monday Night. It'll be nice to have Metcalf 54 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: go off more than occasionally, have the running game not suck, 55 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: have the run defense not suck. There's just so many 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: holes with the Steelers, not just in the depth chart, 57 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: but in the way they play. And it says a 58 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: lot that they have the four string left tackling there 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: and you really can't spot the difference from one to 60 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: two to three to four. Now, Dylan Cook got in 61 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: there at Baltimore operating just on adrenaline and it did 62 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: a good job. That will wear out The worst thing 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: you can give a scrub having to play is time 64 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: to think about it. And now he's had a week 65 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: to think about it. But here's hoping that continues to 66 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: do all right, So get your calls in now for 67 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: calls on the fifteens eight three, three four one two 68 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: WSDX And this defense for the Steelers, the whole defense 69 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: is one of the worst in Steelers history. Fifth from 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: bottom overall, averaging nearly three hundred and seventy yards per 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: game allowed, fifth from bottom in passing yards two hundred 72 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: and forty four yards per game allowed, twelve from bottom 73 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: in rushing one hundred and twenty five point three yards 74 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: per game allowed, and that's gotten worse recently. They're middle 75 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: of the pack in points at twenty three point nine 76 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: points per game allot that's mitigated by twenty three takeaways, 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: which is second most in the NFL. Nominy sacks twenty two, 78 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: eighth from bottom. You know what would be Ironic's not 79 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: the word, but what if TJ doesn't play and Herbie 80 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: gets more time and runs wild Brother, which I would 81 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: love to see, and it very easily could happen. But 82 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: the defense sucks. It's not gonna come around it just 83 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: is what it is, and that goes for the offense. 84 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: Too. 85 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Old guys don't rally late in a season. Old teams 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: don't rally late in the season. They just get older, 87 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: is all. And that defense makes so much money and 88 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: was supposed to be historical, it's not well in a 89 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: perverse way, it may be. I don't blame any one 90 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: thing or player for the failure of that defense, but 91 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: very few players on that side of the ball have 92 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: even been okay. Ramsey's been okay. I give him credit 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: for switching positions and kind of holding the fork down. 94 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior when he man's up, I think he's 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: been very good. I think any shortcoming by Porter has 96 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: been the way he's deployed, not the way he's played. 97 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: And again that's lack of communication between those who procure 98 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: and those who deploy. There was no point getting Joey 99 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Junior if he wasn't going to play press man coverage 100 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: almost all the time, and yet after drafting him, he's 101 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: barely played it at all. Like, I mean, do Con 102 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: and Tom would even talk? Well, that's a dumb question. 103 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Tom Win makes all the decisions and contradicts himself in 104 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: a case like this Hi Smith very good when he's healthy. 105 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: Her being in a lesser role, maybe in a bigger 106 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: role on Monday night Harmon when he's healthy. Some of 107 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: the backups are good. We've been talking about Eccles and Pierre, 108 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: but that's a bad defense. Who would have thought the 109 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: Steelers have a bad defense, but they do. It's real bad. 110 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Get your calls in now A three three four one 111 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: two WXDX. We've been talking about the Michigan coaching thing. 112 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: They fired their coach because he was banging his assistant 113 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: and probably because he lost to Ohio State. But you know, 114 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: there's some really bad ramifications like an assault charge. He 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: spent the night in jail, and now on get up. 116 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Today they were talking about how Michigan should steal Matt 117 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Campbell from Penn State even though he's been hired there. 118 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: Like what a couple of days. There's no honor in 119 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: college sports anymore. And these are young kids. Were teaching 120 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: them to lie and cheat and were nig and go 121 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: back on their word. This country has just really effed up, 122 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: and our government's only part of that, the biggest part, 123 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: to be sure. How about this Stephen Day, who's a 124 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: real good defensive lineman for Indiana. He's out because he 125 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: somehow injured his right leg high fiving fans after the 126 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Big Ten championship came. How do you injure your right leg? 127 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: High fiving fans? But you know what that is. That's 128 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: God reacting because Notre Dame got screwed. Nine day. Yeah, 129 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: what you said the ex at one nine. 130 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: If you're just. 131 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Tuning in some bad news from the Steelers. TJ. Watt 132 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: hospitalized with some kind of lung disorder, not football related, 133 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: not from like a blow. We don't think so. Actually 134 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: we know almost nothing. We just know that his availability 135 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: for Monday night's game against Miami is obviously in question. Uh, 136 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk football with Jerry Dulac at four point thirty. 137 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: That du Lac tweet where he said a little bit 138 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: ago that the time of possession difference between the offense 139 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: and defense of the Steelers has been such that the 140 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: Steelers defense has played the equivalent of two plus extra 141 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: games on the season. That is just absolutely diabolical. And 142 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: that's not an excuse for the defense being as bad 143 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: as it's been. Part of that possession difference has been 144 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: their failure to get off the field. A couple of 145 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: soccer notes. River Hans announced their home opener in defense 146 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: of their USL championship March twenty eighth at high Mark 147 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. Also Saturday night at sports Track in Swickly. 148 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Indoor soccer returning to Pittsburgh. Bridge City FC. Just like 149 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the spirit back then. Remember I love that. I'll be there. 150 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: That's Bridge City FC with their home opener at sports 151 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: Track in Swickly. It's an arena fully equipped for indoor soccer. 152 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: It's been there for years and it's right under the 153 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Siwickly Bridge. Right now, it's time for calls on the fifteens. 154 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: We don't have a sponsor for calls on the fifteens. 155 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Pete. Pete, you're on with Mark? 156 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Hey? 157 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: What up? 158 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: Mean? What I mean? 159 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 3: Just do want to talk about this Steelers game. I 160 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: do think it's gonna be a lot closer Monday night. 161 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: And I think for two reasons, when I see the 162 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: season in general, there's not really one team in the AFC, 163 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: maybe aside from the Raiders, that the Steelers can consistently 164 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: say they have a better position player than somebody else 165 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: on the other team. 166 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: They don't have a better. 167 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: Running back, than the majority of the team's quarterback, and 168 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: Miami comes in with one of the best rushing offenses 169 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 3: in football. And then number two, especially lately throughout the 170 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: entire exactly, Yeah, and number two. I would say every 171 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: team either improves or has a drastic decline throughout the season, 172 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: and Miami, albeit beating poor teams the past three weeks, 173 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: have played good football in really good defense, and the 174 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Steelers have just been complacent since Week one. They're the 175 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: same team as they were Week one, and they haven't 176 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: improved even though they're still in first place. 177 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: Let me take what you said extrapolate just a little bit. 178 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I think unless you're a real top of the line team, 179 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: which there are very few of in this year's NFL, 180 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: You're right you have upswings and down swings, and Miami 181 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: is in the middle of their big upswing, whereas I 182 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: think the Steelers have been trading sewage since they were 183 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: four more and one that win against Baltimore, notwithstanding, which 184 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: was more like the Ravens losing than the Steelers winning. 185 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: And to amplify something you said before, too, Pete, Miami 186 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: has more players having good seasons by far than the 187 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Steelers do. 188 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree, and that's whatever. Every time the 189 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: Steelers play somebody, I'm never super confident that they will 190 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: win because they don't excel in one or two positions 191 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: definitively over their opponents. 192 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: No matter who they are. 193 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: You know, even when you play a Cleveland team, Cleveland's 194 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: defense is considerably better, so the weaknesses they have on offense, 195 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: they can potentially scrap out a win or two because 196 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: they have such. 197 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: A good defense, No, no question. In fact, I think you 198 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: could say the best platoon in football is Cleveland's defense, 199 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: which says a lot about how bad the Browns offense is. 200 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Although let's be honest, if chedor started all season, then 201 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: be undefeated maybe one loss at the most. Thank you 202 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: for the column. Oh and on one other thing too, 203 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: to touch on what that gentleman said, The Steelers never 204 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: on coach nobody like hardball's a dope too, so I 205 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't say either team had a coaching advantage this past Sunday. 206 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: But McDaniel is a much better football coach, a scholar 207 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: of the game, more so than Mike Tomlin, who just 208 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: operates on field in an error ruled by analytics. I 209 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: think it says everything you need to know about how 210 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: antiquated Tomlin is that they don't have a coach in 211 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: charge of replay challenges. He literally goes by the feel 212 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: of what he sees on the JumboTron and on the field. 213 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to Scooch, Scoots, you're all with double. 214 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: M hey to follow up with that, caller said, the 215 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: Dolphins won two punch, even if the eight trains ribs 216 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 4: are still a little banged up. Jalen Wright is extremely 217 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: confident tailback. He has one hundred and five. 218 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: No question. 219 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: Last week their tailback. Do who blows the Steelers away? 220 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: No? No, I agree. Like I said, I think if 221 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: Miami gets the lead and keeps it simple. The more 222 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: I talk about this game, Scoots, the more I think 223 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Miami's probably gonna win. 224 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: I agree. And another thing, Miami, they're also playing to 225 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: try to keep their coach's job. The Steelers. I mean, 226 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: it's like the Supreme Court. Once you get in, you know, 227 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: you leave on your own terms. Palmlin will leave when 228 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: he's seventy five if he wants to. 229 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: That said the much Sir McDaniel's the most popular guy 230 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: in that dressing room. Do they want him to keep 231 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: the job. 232 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: Maybe not? But McDaniel's at least coaching for his own ass. 233 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Then again, the Tyreek thing's been removed from the equation 234 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: as far as McDaniel's concerned, I think that was his 235 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: biggest problem, as good a player as Tyreek is. Let's 236 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: go to Lou Lou. You're on with double M. 237 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: At some point, would you advocate for Seatroff getting sent 238 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: on to the minors to try to work out his 239 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 3: problems if it's costing them these points and bring up. 240 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, don't forget he can't work out his problems in 241 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: the shootout unless he gets in shootouts, and if you 242 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: send him to Wilkes, there's no guarantee he would get 243 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: into those I said earlier in the show, and I'm 244 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna write a column about it. I would consider calling 245 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: up Morrishoff and sending shill Offs to the miners, and 246 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: then in the meantime trying to trade Jari to Edmonton. 247 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: And I would use Morshav in the shootouts because he 248 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: couldn't be worse than the duds they have doing the 249 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: shootouts now, especially Shilloffs. It's just a matter of if 250 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: you think that would be an educated gamble. I've often 251 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: said recently that it would be tough for Dubis to 252 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: trade Jari because the dressing rooms behind Jari and Jari's 253 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: played well. But Jari playing well has always come with 254 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: an expiration date. Morishov's the goalie of the future. He's 255 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: killing it in Wilkes. His numbers are through the roof 256 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: and again, I repeat, you can't lose every shootout. So 257 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: it's one of those rare moves where it could be 258 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: introducing the future but also helping now in the present, 259 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: even though the way Jari's playing it might not look 260 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: that way on the surface, especially given that Morischoff was 261 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: good but not that convincing during his stay in Pittsburgh earlier. 262 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call up. Next, more Hockey Talk 263 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: with Josh Show. He won oh five to nine. 264 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: It's The Woody Show. 265 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: You can stream the X and us The Woody Show 266 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: on the free iHeartRadio app. 267 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: Weekend mornings at six X this season, it's a super 268 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: genius Mark Madden one. 269 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: Get it out like the psychotic version of the Poke. 270 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: Mark, you are superius. 271 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I know the X at one. I got a stat 272 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: wrong before. Jerry Dulac said that the Steelers defense has 273 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: played the equivalent of two extra games this year due 274 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: to the difference in time of possession, it's actually closer 275 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: to three games. Yikes. Joining me now to Todd Penguins. 276 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: They host Montreal tonight. From the Athletic it's Josh, Showy, Josh. 277 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: I've been brainstorming after yet another shootout loss, and I'm 278 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: wondering Morrischoff is killing it in Wilkes. I mean killing it, 279 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: but statistically just through the roof. Would you call him 280 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: up and maybe try to trade Jari as soon as 281 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: possible and it'd be a gamble, but he's a great 282 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: goalie and you'd have a chance in shootouts. 283 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a matter of time until this happens, right. 284 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: I haven't seen him play in Wolfsbury. I see the 285 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: numbers like everybody else. This same percentage, I think is 286 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: like nine forty three something outrageous. It's certainly something to consider, 287 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: and I don't think it is untrue that the Edmonton 288 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: Oilers are interested in Tristan Jari, and I've heard from 289 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: some people I trust that indeed they are, so now 290 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: would be the time to trade Jari in terms of 291 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: his value being as high as humanly possible. It's something 292 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: to consider it's a risk. But I'll tell you what, Mark, 293 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: every time I've talked with players in the locker room 294 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: about Sergei Miroshov, like their eyes just get really big. 295 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: They kind of give you that look like, yeah, he's 296 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: really good. 297 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also think Jari's than Jari really is well. 298 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: But he is good right now. I mean that's the 299 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: thing about Jari. When he's good, he's good. You just 300 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: can't trust him. And that's something that we've learned over 301 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: the years. But I'm telling you, guys in that room, 302 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: they think Mushov is going to be a star, and 303 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think that. And when 304 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, even though it's still a 305 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: small sample size, I think he's only played about twenty 306 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: five games in the American Hockey League in the last 307 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: two years, which is not a big number, but I mean, 308 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: he's obviously dominating that league right now. We're getting close 309 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: to the point where he is ready, So I think 310 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: it does make sense to think about it. 311 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be easier to do if he'd looked a 312 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: bit more convincing during his brief stay in Pittsburgh earlier 313 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: this year, And of course if Jari wasn't playing so well, 314 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: but as a as a local hockey Sage said to 315 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: me earlier today, Josh, you know when you get rid 316 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: of Jari whenever you can, because he has those two 317 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: years left on his deal that are you know, pricey 318 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: at five point three whatever. You don't want him around 319 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: when Morishov does take over, because then, like you said, 320 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: his trade value won't be as high as it is now. 321 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that could produce all kinds of problems. 322 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Never mind his value, Josh, his ability to be traded period. 323 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: Right, And while it is true and I've heard you 324 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: talk about this, and I think it's true that it's 325 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: going to cause problems in the locker room if he 326 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: has traded and that's not ideal, those problems will go 327 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: away pretty quickly if Miershaw shows up and plays great 328 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: and it's all like he was bad. He had one 329 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: shaky game at the three games he played at the 330 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: NHL level. He also had a shout out in Sweden, 331 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: so he didn't exactly look bad in the time he 332 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: was up. It's a matter of time. We all know 333 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy. 334 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: What will the carryover be mentally from blowing that game 335 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: to Anaheim on Tuesday. Because I've never seen anything quite 336 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: like that. 337 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 2: I'm curious myself, and this suddenly feels like a tricky 338 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: game for the Penguins. Montreal usually plays pretty well here. 339 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: There's got to be a psychological impact. The Penguins actually 340 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: had a scheduled day off yesterday. Practice would have interesting 341 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: after that one. I'd be a little concerned about it. 342 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: That's typically not the kind of loss that you recover from. 343 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it either, Mark. But you know, 344 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: the amazing thing is it almost happened in the home 345 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 2: opener identical situations. The Islanders were down a goal, they 346 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: took a penalty with fifteen seconds left. The face off 347 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: went to the New York territory. The Penguins put their 348 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: top power play on the ice, and the Islanders came 349 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: back and almost Scorjari had to make a really good 350 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: save with like one second left. I asked Dan Mues 351 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: the next day, would you maybe try a different lineup 352 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: about the next time that situation arises. He said no, 353 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: he was happy with it, and by god, he basically 354 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: did the same thing against Anaheim and it burned him 355 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: this time. So I couldn't believe what I was watching 356 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: the other night. 357 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Well, that was the first game that Dan muse blew. 358 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean the guys on the ice, there was a 359 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: lot of things they could have done, but it all 360 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: started with Dan Mues making horrible lineup decisions. And Josh 361 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm of the tang guy big time, and he needs 362 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: to tone down his game does and he's trying to 363 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: play like it's still twenty sixteen. I think Carlson has 364 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: tempered his game, and it took him a couple of 365 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: years to do so, but I think it's paid off 366 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: for him, and it might also for Chris. 367 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I still think Chris has the physical 368 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: ability to be a solid NHL defenseman. All of his 369 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: troubles are always upstairs, and he's always been that way. Marky, 370 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: He's never been a cerebral player. He's always been just 371 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: an athletic freak. And as he loses some of that, 372 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: he needs to play differently. And we saw it a 373 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: couple of years ago Carlson's first year here, in the 374 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: first three months of the season, the tig was great. 375 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: He may have been the Penguin's best player in those 376 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: three months. He was so good defensively, he wasn't making 377 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: mistakes and we're just not seeing that right now. He 378 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: has been responsible for far too many goals against, even 379 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: though he's had some good games recently. Thought he was 380 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: really good in Dallas. Thought he was the best defenseman 381 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: in that game, but there are too many knights. But 382 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: when he's just making ridiculous mental errors, and we saw 383 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: it the other night on the play that we're talking about. 384 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 2: All he has to do is take the man on 385 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: that play and the game's over and he tries to 386 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: pickpocket him with two seconds left. It just wasn't smart. 387 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: And it also wasn't smart for him to be on 388 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: the ice with Carlson at all, which was the bigger 389 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: issue in my opinion. But I'm not Chris is struggling 390 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: right now and that they need him to be better 391 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: because as we know with Chris that when he does 392 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: make mistakes, they're not of the small variety. You know, 393 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: when he makes a mistake, the whole rink notices. He's 394 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: always been that guy, and those are the mistakes that 395 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: are hurting the Penguins right now, and he's got to 396 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: be better. 397 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned that calling up Morrishoff might fix the shootout, 398 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: But then again, maybe not because they wouldn't sub him 399 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: in for whoever the other goal he was. No coach 400 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: does that. I don't sense Mus would either, And Sid 401 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: will go in the shootout no matter what, even though 402 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: he's totally predictable. He's gonna go no matter what. I 403 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: feel like the Penguin shootout problems will continue because there's 404 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: a lot that's non negotiable. 405 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've never seen him look less confident in 406 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 2: the shootout, Like he looked like a dead man walking 407 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: the other night against Anaheim, and he did the same 408 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 2: move and the same shot and it was all really predictable. 409 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: As great as he still is, that's one area of 410 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: his game that we have certainly seen e road in 411 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And he's Malkin's never been 412 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: very good on breakaways. La Tang hasn't been good for years. 413 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: I think we've seen Russ decline as well. We have 414 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: seen Mus go with some different guys. Now we saw 415 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: Coy even and the other night we saw no back, 416 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: So I think that's encouraging. But since the big one, 417 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: if you ask him to step aside, I'm sure that 418 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't be pleasant for the coach, But it might be 419 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: time to have that conversation because if they lose out 420 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: on a playoff spot by a couple of points, Mark, 421 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: we know exactly why it is. It's because of shootouts. 422 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: It's already cost him. It lost eleven of their last 423 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: twelve shootouts. I think it is going back the last 424 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: couple of years. That's unbelievable. It's hard to make the 425 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: playoffs these days when you give up that many points 426 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: an extra time going. 427 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: To Josh Shelley the athletic here on one ninety X, Josh, 428 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: I love the way the kid line's playing McGroarty, Kindle 429 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: and coyven in. But they got a score like their 430 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: metrics are tremendous, but they got three even strength goals 431 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: between them all by Kindle. 432 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: Well, I agree, but I think it will come. And 433 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: one thing I will say for them, that line's also 434 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: been really good defensively. It's not like they're giving up 435 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: goals when they're on the ice, so that that's encouraging, 436 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: especially if you're going to use them in basically a 437 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: third line role when Malcom's healthy, which I think is 438 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: the plan. Kendall and McGroarty are really good defensively. So 439 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: that helps the cause. But yeah, I mean the offense 440 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: needs to come. It's only been a couple of games though, 441 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: three games, I guess they've been together. You gotta be 442 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: patient sometimes that's the last thing to come with young players. 443 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: And it's not like they aren't generating opportunities. They absolutely are, 444 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: and I think the goals will start to come. I 445 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: really like that line together. I think they all have 446 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: different attributes that they bring to the table, and I 447 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: think Mark the biggest thing that we've seen with that 448 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: line so far. Ben Kendall has been better the last 449 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: three games than he had been. He had a little 450 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: bit of a lull in the middle of November where 451 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: he wasn't playing very well for a few games that line. 452 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: Whether it's that line bringing him back to life or 453 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: maybe it was just going to happen anyway, but we've 454 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: seen a better version of Kendall on that line. He's 455 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: been one of the Penguin's best players for the last 456 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: three or four games, and that to me is really encouraging. 457 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: I would keep that line together. But Tyler Kennedy had 458 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: a provocative thought on my show yesterday. He thinks they 459 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: should take two of those kids and put him with 460 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: a big guy, because that would make that line play 461 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: less on the perimeter. I see the point of that, 462 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: but I wonder if putting say Manta on that line 463 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: might slow the line down. Yeah. 464 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's intriguing, and the good news is it's 465 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: a long season, so there's lots of time to experiment 466 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: and we might see that. Personally, I would keep Kendling 467 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: McGroarty together no matter or what. I think Kendall needs 468 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: some stability. He's been playing with different guys every single 469 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: night all season and he's done well. But I think 470 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: at eighteen years old, he needs to have a stable 471 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: line mate, and I think they would like that to 472 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: be McGroarty. Coivenan needs to produce, because he doesn't really 473 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: help you in other ways if he's not producing. I'm 474 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: curious when they get healthy Mark. Let's say the top 475 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: line is you know, Russ, Rakell and Crosby, and the 476 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: second line is the three big guys you know and 477 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: Brezon and Manfa. So what do you do with that 478 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: third line, because if you leave the kids together, that 479 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: might mean Tommy Novak's a healthy scratch. And I think 480 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: he's been pretty good lately, and I think he's a 481 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: better player than Coybanan right now. So maybe Novak ultimately 482 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: ends up on that line. I don't know, but I 483 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: would not separate McGroarty and Kendall. 484 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: Well, Novak and Kendall played decent earlier in the year. 485 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: They had a great give and go goal scored by 486 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: Kendall in Florida. Yeah, and I give Novak credit, Josh, 487 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: because he got elevated to Sid's line, and he's got 488 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: three goals and two assists in his last four games. 489 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of his totally unphysical style, 490 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: but he's putting up some numbers. 491 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, he certainly is a perimeter player, 492 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: putting it lightly. So if you're gonna be a perimeter player, 493 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: you better put up points. And to his credit, he 494 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: has done that. He really does have the playmaking gene. 495 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: He sees the ice well, he distributes the puck well. 496 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: And I also say, you know, if this Malkin line 497 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: when he comes back, I don't know if those three 498 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: guys are going to keep doing what they did in October. 499 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 2: Braso in particular, you wonder if he might fade. I 500 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: can tell you this Mark during the summer of getting 501 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: Malkin told the Penguins coaching staff that he really wanted 502 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: to play with Novack, that he thought he was an 503 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: intriguing player basically, and that they could be good together potentially. 504 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: So Novak, he's got really good hands, he's got a 505 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: high skill level. He just needs to go to the 506 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: net more, frankly, and he has lately, and that's made 507 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: a difference in his game as all around game has 508 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: been better. So he remains an interesting player. I'm still 509 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: just not sure what you do with him. 510 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what's gonna make me go insane 511 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: When Raquel comes back and he takes Kendall's place on 512 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: the top power play and I just feel like that's 513 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: a lock, even though Kendall is their best power play guy. 514 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: I knew that's where you were going, and I agree 515 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: with you. He might be the most natural power play 516 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: guy they have. He does not turn the puck over 517 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: on the power play. 518 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: He knows how to do it. He knows how to 519 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: let space organically clear. He never forces anything. 520 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: His patience with the puck is incredible, and yet he 521 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: still shoots the puck when it's appropriate. It's just decision 522 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: making or as great as Crosby and Malkin. Are they 523 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: turn the puck over on the power play a lot 524 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: because the Force plays too much well, Tigan Carlson do 525 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: as well. You really don't see that With Kendall, he 526 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: can play the bumper. I like that he gives you 527 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: another right handed shot. It's nothing against Raquel or Russ 528 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: or whoever they would decide to take off. But I 529 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: think the power play is better because of Ben Kendall, 530 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: and I think it would be a big mistake to 531 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: remove him. 532 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: Where's Montreal. I like their roster better than I like 533 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: them on the ice, if that makes sense. They're a good, young, 534 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: fast team kind of on the rise and on the 535 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: road the Penguins would like to be. But I don't 536 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: feel like they're playing as well as their talent dictates. 537 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: Not yet. 538 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: No, they're not. They started slow last season two, for 539 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: what it's worth. Maybe they're just one of those teams. 540 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: I thought they were kind of a sexy pick to 541 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: win the conference this year, Like I actually thought that 542 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: highly of them, and I think that little of these 543 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: an conference. I think, so you put it together and 544 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: I think they're intriguing. We're going to get to see 545 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: their hotshot goalie prospect make his debut Toite because they're 546 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: big goalie prospects only debut against the Pittsburgh Penguins, whether 547 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: it be Dryden or water Kerry Price. There's a history 548 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: of that. 549 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: Right And I was there, baby, I was there, were you. 550 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're good. I do that. They They 551 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of skilled forwards. They're really fast, which 552 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: might make them a bad matchup for the Penguins because 553 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: the Penguins have struggled this year against faster teams. They 554 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: don't mind playing the heavier teams. The teams that can 555 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: really skate. Seems like Tampa and New Jersey I find 556 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: have given them fits this season. Maybe not a great 557 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: matchup for the Penguins. But Montreal should be a playoff 558 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 2: team at the very least, and if they're not, then 559 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: something went wrong. Because they've got an awful lot of 560 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: young talent on that team. 561 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: And Demodolf's a star. I talk about him a lot. Yeah, 562 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: I would never trade said to Montreal or anywhere for 563 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: that matter. If I did, I'd want demodoff, non negotiable. 564 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: No, he is some kind of a talent. He came 565 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: on the scene at the end of last season. In 566 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: Montreal and he just looked like a star a meet 567 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: Mark And the thing about Montreal, it's funny saying this 568 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: historically speaking, but really in the last ten or fifteen years, 569 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: the problem with the Canadians is they haven't had any 570 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: star power, I guess other than Carry Price, but they 571 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: haven't had the big names, which is what they've always 572 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: had over the years. But they've had a lot of 573 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: good players, they haven't had any great players and you 574 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: still need that to win, and that's been one of 575 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: their big problems. And maybe he will blossom into that guy. 576 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: I think he has the physical skill set to be 577 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: a superstar. 578 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Josh, do you think the Pirates will be able to 579 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: get that second basement from Tampa for low level minor 580 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: league prospects. That's the latest. That's the latest. The media 581 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: fanboys are saying that they'll get Brandon low thirty one 582 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: home runs last year, one year left on his deal 583 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: for a low level prospect. 584 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: I just tweeted about that. I didn't know that second 585 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: baseman who had thirty home runs and they're in their prime. 586 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know they could be had for low level 587 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: prospects only one. 588 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Year left on his deal. Josh, they're gonna give them away. 589 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: They'll take what they can get. 590 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh that listen, I'm sure the Pirates. Before I see 591 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: you tonight at the Arena, Mark, I'm sure they will 592 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: have signed two or three big names. I think that's 593 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: obviously a given. 594 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Beat them Bucks. That's Josh on Mark On Every weekday at. 595 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: Ten am, is Travis starting your workday commercial freight on 596 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: one O five nine. 597 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: We're adding another show to the ex's concert calendar, like 598 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: a guest live in concert.