1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WVZ, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Al, we are delighted to be 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: joined by the Auditor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts State 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Auditor Diana Dezaglio, Madam Auditor, Welcome back to Nightside. How 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: are you this evening. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me on, Dan, It's great. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 4: To be back. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Well, I know you're at an event and you can 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: stay with us as long as you would like. We'll 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: have callers who will want to talk to you. I'd 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: like to break down the what we're going to talk 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: about into two areas. One right now, as I understand 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: that you plan to sue Nassport for some records, particularly 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: these non disclosure agreements the NDAs, why don't you explain 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: to the public, who are not lawyers, the either the 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: benefit or the problem with non disclosure agreements, particularly as 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: they relate to employees who are first who are forced 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: to sign them, and they signed them with the understanding 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: that if there was a financial settlement and they're dropping 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: a potential lawsuit, they are prevented forever more from talking 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: about it, which simply, as in the case of the 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: Catholic Church, allowed the Catholic Church to keep priests who 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: had taken advantage of little kids to repeat their behavior. 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: So go ahead, yeah, exactly, I mean you hit the 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: now on the head. So, these settlement agreements that include 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: non disclosure language or confidentiality clauses, they actually allow for 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: powerful perpetrators to potentially silence victims of harassment, discrimination, abuse, assault, 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: all sorts of things that are unethical and out right unlawful. 29 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: And while a lot of folks know of the Harvey 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: Weinstein incidents for example, right that happened years ago during 31 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: the Me Too movement, for example, where powerful perpetrators were 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: able to silence women about sexual assault using these non 33 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: disclosure agreements, and this is a huge movement nation and worldwide, 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: a lot of folks don't know that these agreements are 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: actually able to be used in our own state government 36 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: and using our tax dollars. Actually, so we have been 37 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 3: looking into state government entities for how much and how 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: often they use these suttlement agreements that include confidentiality language 39 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 3: that is able to silence people about alleged discrimination or 40 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: harassment or other unlawful behavior for the purposes of making 41 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: sure that the laws being followed. State regulation is being followed, 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: but also that best practices are being utilized to make 43 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: sure that books are really aware of how much these 44 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: agreements can be abused if there is no oversight. And 45 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: as you said, Dan, you know we here in Massachusetts, 46 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: I mean, we especially know about the archdiocese and what 47 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: happened with the Catholic Church with these young vulnerable children 48 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: who were sexually abused, sexually assaulted, and were you abused 49 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: by these priests who were able to move on from 50 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: one child victim to the next undetected for quite a 51 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: long time because families were actually told to be quiet 52 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: about these things and they were given a settlement, but 53 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: they were given settlements that included confidentiality language non disclosure 54 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: language which kept them silent and protected the perpetrator in 55 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: the church and allowed that perpetrator to move on to 56 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: their next victim. So these agreements need a lot of monitoring, 57 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: not just in state government but across the board in 58 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Massachusetts and in this nation. And we in the Auditor's 59 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: Office are trying to do our part with what's under 60 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,559 Speaker 3: our purview, and what's under our purview is these state agencies. 61 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: So we just did an audit of twenty one state 62 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: agencies and the commonwealth. We looked at independent agencies such 63 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: as constitutional offices, We looked at colleges and universities, and 64 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: we looked at quasi public agencies. And in our report 65 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: we uncovered we uncovered at least two hundred and sixty 66 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: three settlement agreements that were executed to the tune of 67 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: roughly six point eight million dollars, and at least eighty 68 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: of those included confidentiality language. And what the issue seemed 69 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: to be most often was that a lot of these 70 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: agencies just didn't have policies and procedures governing when it 71 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: was appropriate to use this language and if it was 72 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: appropriate to use this language. Also, we found some violations 73 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: of state regulations not filing with the Comptroller's office appropriately, 74 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: And in Massports case, we found the most concerning incident 75 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: where there was a one roughly one point four million 76 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: dollars settlement using confidentiality and non disparagement language that was 77 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: used at Massport, a quasi public agency who utilizes public 78 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: land and public resources, that they had executed disagreement and 79 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: kept silent allegations of discrimination based on gender, discrimination based 80 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: on disability, and issues of retaliation and you know, a 81 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: host of other issues. So we did dig in, you know, 82 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: a little deeper in Massport and we looked at some 83 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: of the personnel records there, and we uncovered the Massport 84 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: actually hadn't actually even reported all of their settlement agreements 85 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: to us, as we had originally requested. We had asked 86 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: them for all of the settlement agreements they executed. They 87 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: gave us some of them, but not all of them. 88 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: We uncovered at least seven additional settlement agreements that they 89 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: had left out of the ones they gave to us 90 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: during our audit period. And unfortunately, we believe that they 91 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: are even more than those that were able to be found. 92 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: But we actually had ten personnel records with held from 93 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: us purposefully and in violation of Massachusetts General Law, Chapter eleven, 94 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: section twelve. If anybody wants to spend their Friday night 95 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: reading that, I'll repeat it for you. There's this chapter eleven, 96 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: section twelve, and that is the law governing my office. Dan. 97 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: That's the law that sets the tone for the Office 98 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: of State Auditor, tells us what we're supposed to do, 99 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: and that law authorizes us to examine records at state 100 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: agencies and departments that we need in order to conduct 101 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: our audits, and they violated the law and withheld those records. 102 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: I think I understand from ACCOMA with you earlier today 103 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: that mass Board has said, hey, you don't have any 104 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: authority over us, Madam auditor, because there's no tax money involved. 105 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: There's no taxpayer money involved here. 106 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: Well, our office does have authority to audit Massport because 107 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: they are a quasi public agency and they are trying 108 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: to unfortunately get folks into a conversation about semantics essentially, 109 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: where they're saying they don't believe that their taxpayer funded 110 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: because they generate their own revenue is what they're saying. 111 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: So they say they're privately funded. And my response to 112 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: that is, with all due respect, they utilize lands taken 113 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: through eminent domain, they utilize public land, public resources, They 114 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: get tax exemptions on their products and goods, and you know, 115 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: they don't pay interest on their bonds. I mean, they 116 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: have a host of things that they benefit from that 117 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: is taxpayer funded. That gives them that opportunity to generate revenues. 118 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: So that's why they are quasi public agency. And look, 119 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: if they were an entity such as General Electric or 120 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Walmart or some private business. The also state auditor wouldn't 121 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: be able to audit them. So respectfully, the taxpayers of 122 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: Massachusetts do fund agencies like this, and it is public 123 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: money that is used. And it is concerning whenever a 124 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: quasi a public agency such as Massport or any agency 125 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: is handing out a one point four million dollar settlement 126 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: agreement including confidentiality language which is meant to hide things, 127 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: and I think that they're just you know, talking about 128 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: this stuff because they're trying to distract from that, and 129 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: really they should be focusing on really figuring out how 130 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: to ensure that they never have to execute something like that. 131 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: Again, as a taxpayer, I would be interested who Massport 132 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: was protecting because obviously the one point four million dollars 133 00:08:54,679 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: by Massport is to end litigation or stop litigation before 134 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: it even starts. And that litigation, in most cases, if 135 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: not all cases, is going to be prompted by bad 136 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: behavior of an employee, and I'd be interested to know 137 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: if that employee, or for whom Massport expended that amount 138 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: of money, is still employed by Massport. 139 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: I think that it's important that there is the ability 140 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: to provide oversight to these entities. And as you're saying, 141 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 3: and when things like this happen, right, it is important 142 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: that there is some uh, you know, actions taken you know, 143 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: by management that are appropriate by the employee that's appropriate, 144 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: that everybody has appropriate representation. But the main issue that 145 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: we had with Massport here was, you know, there withholding 146 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: of these ten personnel records, because our office does exist 147 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: to provide oversight to make sure that things were done correctly. 148 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: As you're saying that everything was being done on the 149 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: up and up, and if you're holding personnel records from us, 150 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: what they did was they actually said that they gave 151 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: their employees the option to say that they could to 152 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: say that they wanted to quash the Office of State 153 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: Auditor's review of their records and that they wanted to 154 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: prevent us from accessing their files. Now, just for folks 155 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: to know, our office never publicizes personal names, anything that 156 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: is a personally identifiable thing about someone. We don't you know, 157 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: put social Security numbers out there or anything like that. 158 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: But we do exist to provide oversight to these agencies 159 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: to make sure that the law is being followed. And 160 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: what Massport just did is they was held ten personnel 161 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: records from the Office of State auditor citing something that's 162 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: never been cited before in the history of the Auditor's 163 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: office from what we know, except for by Governor Healey 164 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: just last year. Actually for the first time. 165 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 5: Now. 166 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: Governor Healey did eventually turn the document or say she 167 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: was going to turn the documents over to our office, 168 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: So we didn't end up suing in that particular instance, 169 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: even though they waited till the end of the audit 170 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: report to say they were turning those records over. But 171 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: mat'sport is just blatantly withholding them, not going to turn 172 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: them over, And essentially the Attorney General is saying she 173 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: agrees with this position and that she thinks that state 174 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: agencies should have the right to withhold information from our 175 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: office and prevent a review of these records to make 176 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: sure that the law is being followed. This stand is 177 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: very concerning. It's not just about those ten records. This 178 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: actually presents an existential crisis or the Office of State 179 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: Auditor because we audit personnel records all of the time, 180 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: even if we're looking just at things like cybersecurity training, 181 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: whether ethics training was taken at these different state agencies, 182 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: and if they're going to allow potential bad actors in 183 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: these agencies just to decide that they don't want us 184 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 3: to review these records. That means that that actors could 185 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: potentially be getting away with things in state agencies and 186 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: we won't have any ability to ever know how and 187 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 3: why that happens. 188 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: My guess, there's the State Auditor of the call Wealth 189 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts. I want to get to some phone calls. 190 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: We have a bunch of phone calls lined up already. 191 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: But before I will get to some phone calls, because 192 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: I don't want those folks waiting, we have to take 193 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: a break. And of course I also want to get 194 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: the latest update on the initiative that people are now 195 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: circulating or I guess they got a sufficient number of 196 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: signatures to get a very important ballot question on the 197 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: ballot this November, which would allow individual citizens to see 198 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: records of the Greater General Court. The State House of 199 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: Representatives in the State Senate will explain that some of 200 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: this sounds, probably to folks a little confusing, but I 201 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: think that the Auditor explains it very clearly. We'll be 202 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: back with phone calls. We will also talk time permitting 203 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: with the order about where we stand on that very 204 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: important ballot initiative. Uh, and you say right there if 205 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: you want. The only lines open right now, there's a 206 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: couple at six, one, seven nine. I'm going to try 207 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: to get at least three calls in before the news 208 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour, so people don't have 209 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: to wait that long they're anxious. I believe to support 210 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: your efforts, we'll be back on night side with the 211 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: State Order the Cormwealth of Massachusetts Uditor Diana Desauglio. 212 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 213 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: We're with the Auditor the Cormwealth of Massachusetts State Order 214 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: to Diana and Zaudio. DINAI full lines, and I know 215 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: we haven't even touched on the ballot initiative. Let's hold 216 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: off on that and let me get a couple of 217 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: calls in here before the news break of the bottom tower. 218 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Julius and Julius, you are on with State Auditor Diana Desauglio. 219 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: Comment to a question please, Yeah. 220 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 6: Hello, Dan and Diana. It's a pleasure to talk with you. 221 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 6: I just want to share I've had the opportunity to 222 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 6: meet Diana a couple of times, and she's always so 223 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 6: willing to talk to anyone. Very approachable, listen shared, and 224 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 6: she's just a great addition to math politics and also 225 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 6: the guts that she has. She has her you know, 226 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: what she believes in and she goes after it, and 227 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 6: I just find her such a commendable represented about the state. 228 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: Well, the problem, Diana with this call is everyone it 229 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: all goes downhill from here. I'm only kidding. That's very kind. 230 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. That was very kind of you 231 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: and seeing you around you and at some point zone. 232 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: I feel the same way, Julius, Thank you so much 233 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: for calling. 234 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: And I got to tell you both that if I 235 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: felt the opposite, I would call and do that too, 236 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: so I. 237 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: To make sure that never happens. 238 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 6: That's right, A great night. 239 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: You took, great first call. Let me go to Paul 240 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: in Dorchester. Is next, Paul, You're next night side with 241 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,119 Speaker 2: Massachusetts State Auditor Diana Desuglio. 242 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 7: God bless her, God bless you too. Did But you know, uh, 243 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 7: seventy two percent of the people voted into law and 244 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 7: she's got the guts to stand up to the most 245 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 7: care what I think is the most corrupt legislature imaginable. 246 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 7: What are they trying to hide that this is our money? 247 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 7: That they won't let you see what they spent it on. 248 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 7: And not just immigration, but their own private expenses is 249 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 7: where you may get them. You know, we had a 250 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 7: governor king that had a lupster dinner they made a 251 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 7: huge deal out of. But they've been traveling, They've been 252 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 7: going places for sixty years. I've been seeing this corrupt 253 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 7: legislature go get worse and worse. You know, the mob 254 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 7: is more trustworthy than the politicians. You're gonna need federal 255 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 7: help to get everybody. You know, there was a sixty 256 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: years ago there was an arditor named Ducky. I'll just 257 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 7: say that was his nickname. But Ducky was the auditor. 258 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: He was the most feared man in the state house 259 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 7: because he knew all their sins, he knew their expense accounts, 260 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 7: he knew the travel and all the graft and corruption 261 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 7: that goes on in scratch your back, Massachusetts. You know, 262 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 7: God bless you and for what you're trying to do. 263 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 7: I hope you You know, I would volunteer to be 264 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 7: extra security detail because the politicians are no good. They're 265 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 7: a bunch of thieves. And I can't even get food stamps, 266 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 7: but they set sixty dollars a day for each meal 267 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 7: for illegal alien that gets their daily laundry done. It's crazy. 268 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 7: I want to see where the sixty two billion dollars went. Please, Diana, 269 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 7: God bless you for what you're trying to do. Help. 270 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 7: We're going to need federal help, though, I'm afraid. 271 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: I hope all right, PAULA. I'm sure the auditor would 272 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: like to say thank you for your support. There may 273 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: be issues upon which you and she and I might disagree, 274 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: but certainly we want to know we a tax payled 275 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: money is being spent and if the people who need 276 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: the help the people who are getting to help. Diana, 277 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: you want to react to what Paul say. 278 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much, Paul, just for sharing your perspective. 279 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: And we're going to continue to work hard to get 280 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: access to court. That's our next step here. We have 281 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: an outside attorney who is willing to represent us in court. 282 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: The Attorney General is trying to block our access to 283 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: court right now to sue the legislature. She has been 284 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: rewarded heavily in her budget. She saw a nearly I 285 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: believe it was a twelve percent increase to her budget 286 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: and the millions and millions of dollars, while you know, 287 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: other budgets were unfortunately seeing just a fraction of that, 288 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: and we you know, I fully believe that that was 289 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: done in order to make sure that the Attorney General 290 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: did not enforce this law with respect to the legislative audit. 291 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: And I do believe that there is conspiring to violate 292 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: the law going on between the Attorney General, the Senate President, 293 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: and the Speaker of the House and probably some more 294 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 3: folks as well. So I do appreciate your support. We're 295 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: going to be working with this attorney to try to 296 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: access the judiciary to get this before the courts, and 297 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: hopefully the courts demonstrate that they are willing to side 298 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: with the people and that they're able to stand up 299 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: to the Speaker and Senate President. But I'm going to 300 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: need all of your help to make sure that you know, 301 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 3: everybody knows that this is what the people want, and 302 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: hopefully that will happen. 303 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: Diana. How could people get in touch with you? I know, 304 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: obviously you have a re election campaign underway, that's not 305 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: what we're talking about tonight. But if people want to 306 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 2: be in touch with you, what is the easiest way. 307 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: So I actually haven't moved into any sort of campaign stuff. 308 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm just finishing up some work in my office, but 309 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: if somebody does want to get in touch with me, 310 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: please email Diana at Dianadizaglio dot com. And I am 311 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 3: certainly asking people right now to please get in touch 312 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: with me if you'd like to support the next ballot 313 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: campaign that we are working on. And folks, look, I 314 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: know how frustrated many of you are out there about 315 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 3: the fact that the ballot campaign that we just ran, 316 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: and the ballot question that we just passed by seventy 317 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: two percent of the vote, is being blatantly and flatly, 318 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: flatly out, flat out ignored by our legislature and our 319 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: Attorney General. I do have another ballot question that I 320 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: am pushing to see on the ballot. We collected over 321 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand signatures. We need to collect another I 322 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: believe it's over twelve thousand signatures this spring in order 323 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: to make sure that this next ballot question gets on 324 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: the ballot. And this s balic question would actually make 325 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: those records that I have been trying to view as 326 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: your auditor, such as financial receipts and state contracts paid 327 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: for with your tax dollars matters of public record. I 328 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: have been trying to get access just to how these 329 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: tax dollars are being spent. They've been blocking me. They've 330 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: been saying it's a violation of the constitution, and they've 331 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: been saying all these ridiculous, nonsensical arguments. But they have 332 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: been able to block my office because my office is 333 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: required to utilize the Attorney General in order to access 334 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: the courts. What we are doing with this next ballot 335 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: question is we are seeking to subject the legislature and 336 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: the governor's office to the state's public records law, the 337 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: Freedom of Information Act, as many of you know it has, 338 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: and this would require that the legislature and the governor's 339 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: office make available those financial records and other administrative and 340 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 3: business records, that they would make them available to every 341 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 3: resident of the Commonwealth, that they would follow the public 342 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: records law. So if they don't want to give those 343 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: records to me, my friends, then I am going to 344 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: make sure that they have to give those records to 345 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: all of you directly. And we're working hard to pass 346 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: that on the ballot. And the reason why folks have 347 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: already asked me, what do you think will be different 348 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: about this? Than the last one. Folks, they could try 349 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: to snub their nose at the voters yet again. But 350 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: we can't just give up. So I am pushing for 351 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: this and I believe that this will provide an opportunity 352 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: for if they do break the law every day, regular 353 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: people will be able to sue them for those records. 354 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: Media outlets would be able to sue them for those records. 355 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: We're on WBZ Nightside. If WZ Nightside made a public 356 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 3: records request of the legislature or the governor's office and 357 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: they chose to violate the law, WBZ Nightside would have 358 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: standing in court to be able to sue them for 359 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: those records if they don't follow the law. So it 360 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: gets us past that alleged constitutional issue that they keep 361 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: saying they believe exists. There certainly is no constitutional issue 362 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 3: that exists with the audit. But there's even less likelihood 363 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: than anyone would even believe that they're going to be 364 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: a constitutional issue. We'll just giving public records to people 365 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: in the general public right. 366 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: Well. Their constitutional issue when you think about it, when 367 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: you frame it properly, which you do, constitutional issue that 368 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: there is a constitutional prohibition against the state auditor in 369 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: this case, you from doing what the state auditor is 370 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: has to do, and that is audit agencies of the government. 371 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: They are an agency of the government as well. Their 372 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: argument is absurd. Diana, I got to take a quick 373 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: break for news. You have explained that so well. I 374 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: want to get more people involved. We got a bunch 375 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: of phone calls. Let's stay with it. I want to 376 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: thank you Paul for your your call and your question. 377 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: It gave us a great opportunity to get to the 378 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: to the next step that needs to be taken here 379 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. Thank you, Paul. Diane, if you can say 380 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: where you are, we are or stay comfortable. I hope 381 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 2: wherever you are you're comfortable and warm, because we have 382 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: callers who want to talk to you six four ten 383 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: thirty one line there on one line. We had to 384 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: drop off at six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Folks, 385 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: this is your opportunity to actually talk to a constitutional officer. 386 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: There is only there are only six people in Massachusetts 387 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: who are elected statewide. 388 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 8: Uh. 389 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: And if you add in the two US Senators, it's 390 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: a total of eight. So uh. Diana Desauglio, the governor, 391 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: lieut Governor, the attorney General, the state Treasurer, the two 392 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: US Senators. 393 00:23:59,760 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 9: Uh. 394 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: This is a woman, a candidate who has been elected 395 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: by all the people of Massachusetts, and the ballot petition 396 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: initiative that she led last in the fall of twenty 397 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: twenty four led excuse me, it was Yeah, it was 398 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: a fall of twenty twenty four, passed by seventy two percent, 399 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: and it's being ignored by the leaders of the House 400 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: and Senate. Back on Night Side, would die the state 401 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: order to die in adzauglio? More of your phone calls 402 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: right after the break. 403 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, 404 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 405 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: My guest is the State Auditor of the call wt 406 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts dieing Indzauglio. She wants to do her job, 407 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: which is audit, amongst other agencies, the legislature of the 408 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: State Senate and the State House of Representatives, the two 409 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: legislative bodies, and she is also about to assume Massport, 410 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: which is a CLASEI public agency. Let me go next 411 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: to Bob in Cambridge. Bob, you were next on Nightside 412 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: with the State Orditor. Diane is ugly. 413 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 10: Will go right ahead, Bob Hi, Dan Hi Diana. First 414 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 10: of all, I want to tell you both thanks for 415 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 10: taking the call. And I have a level of animosity 416 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 10: about this situation. This is there getting old, Okay, it's 417 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 10: getting too old. First it was the legislature. Okay, Now 418 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 10: you're gonna now they're gonna beef with the Massport. Right, 419 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 10: they're all in bed together. But what you're gonna do, Diana, Right, 420 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 10: You're gonna get somebody to get to that Attorney general, 421 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 10: somebody on the state Supreme Judicial Court, some heavy hitter 422 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 10: rupt here that stands tall on its own two feet. 423 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, at this point, I'm gonna let Diana speak, Bob. 424 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: But at this point she is standing very tall. But 425 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: she does not have a lot of support from other 426 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: elected officials here in Massachusetts. 427 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 11: Uh. 428 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: And and and you know, she's she's she is fighting, 429 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: and she needs the support of voters. She had the 430 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: support of voters with the seventy two percent, and she 431 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: needs she needs the voters to back her again. Go 432 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: right ahead. I didn't mean to direupt Diana. 433 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, definitely, Thank you so much, Bob. I really 434 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: appreciate the support. 435 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 436 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: I mean, my concern with Attorney General Campbell is you 437 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: know that she is conspiring with legislative leaders to secure 438 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: those budget increases for herself, denying the will of the voters. 439 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: And the reality is is that she is the state's 440 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: top law enforcement officer of this commonwealth. She will repeatedly 441 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: go on to news interviews and tell folks that she 442 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: needs me to answer questions, or that something my office 443 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: is doing is preventing her from being able to enforce 444 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: the law, so that she doesn't have to accept responsibility 445 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: for playing defense for the Speaker and the Senate President, 446 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: who are her good friends, but friends, we know better. 447 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: We know that the Attorney General is the top law 448 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: enforcement officer of this commonwealth, and she doesn't need my permission, 449 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: or Dan's permission, or anybody's permission to sue someone who 450 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: she wants to sue. She sues the President on a 451 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: regular basis, and no one stops the Attorney General from 452 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: doing that. But yet she's claiming that she's being prevented 453 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 3: somehow from suing the Speaker and the Senate President. It's 454 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: complete bologney. It's just not true. And we do need 455 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: people to start standing up to the Attorney General and 456 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: calling out what she's saying for what it is which 457 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: is gaslighting and just complete mistruth, complete untruthspolks, this is 458 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: just not true. So there does need to be more 459 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: public pressure on the Attorney General's office. She is feeling 460 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: very empowered lately. She is running unopposed, it appears right now, 461 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: so she's feeling very empowered. It appears to just continue 462 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 3: on allowing this law breaking behavior to occur. And whenever 463 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: these types of things are brought up, she just points 464 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: back to the fact that she's suing the Trump administration. 465 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: So that should be good enough for everyone. Will with 466 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 3: all due respects, you know, we have laws here in 467 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: Massachusetts that need to be followed, and you know, if 468 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is breaking the law, and when Donald Trump 469 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: is breaking the law, he should be sued. But guess 470 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: what when our state leaders here in the state of Massachusetts, 471 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: within my own party on the Democratic side, when they're 472 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: breaking the law, they also need to be sued. And 473 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, this level of hypocrisy is unacceptable. We need 474 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: to be walking with a standard of integrity. And if 475 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: we're going to say it's wrong for someone at the 476 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: federal level to do it, then we need to say 477 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: it's wrong for people here in the state of Massachusetts 478 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: in state government. To do it, an Attorney General needs 479 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: to do her job here in Massachusetts, enforce the state 480 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: laws here in Massachusetts, and stop trying to divert attention 481 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: to other issues. So it's to not have to answer 482 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: to the people of this commonwealth about why she is 483 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: ignoring their vote and undermining democracy to gain favor with 484 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: the Speaker and Senate President instead of with the people 485 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: of Massachusetts. 486 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 10: Hi, can I say one more thing? 487 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Buck, You got to be quick because I'm 488 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: coming up my break. You go right ahead. 489 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 7: Hi. 490 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 10: I think we all know that this is this is 491 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 10: a problem with the old boy network. 492 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 11: You're trying to. 493 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 5: Tell me that somebody, some judge, some superior judge or 494 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: something can't break that old boy network because nothing's going 495 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: to happen until that old boy network gets demolished. 496 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: Well, It'll let me tell you something. This is going 497 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: to take all of us standing up to these folks. 498 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: I have concerns about the Attorney General's very strong relationships 499 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: with some of these judges. I have concerned that when 500 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: we get to court that we might not get a 501 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: fair trial. I have a lot of concerns about that. 502 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: I have expressed those concerns to some of these people. 503 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: So it is going to take the people love this 504 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 3: commonwealth continually standing up and saying, we expect the legislative 505 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: branch to obey the law, the executive branch to obey 506 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: the law, and we also expect our judiciary to act 507 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: with some morals here and with some ethical standards, and 508 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: to follow the law themselves. Because I will tell you 509 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: I have very strong concerns about the Attorney General's relationship 510 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: with some of these judges, and I do hope that 511 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: we get a fair hearing on behalf of the people 512 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: of Massachusetts. But I'm going to need all of you 513 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: to stand with me to make sure that happens. 514 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: The other thing is ironic, Bob, and I've talked with 515 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: Diana about this, is Diana is a constitutional officer. The 516 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: attorney general one of the six constitutional officers. Her job 517 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: is to is she's the auditor. The attorney General's job 518 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: is to enforce laws in Massachusetts. The attorney General is 519 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: basically saying to the state auditor, not only will she 520 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: not represent the auditor in a lawsuit, but is that 521 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: she would actually step in to oppose and would not 522 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: support her in a lawsuit. That is to me breathtaking 523 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: that one constitutional officer, the Attorney General, is telling the 524 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: state auditor, I will not even support you when you 525 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: try to do your job. Is that a fair characterization, 526 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: Diana of. 527 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: The situation attorney general. The Attorney General is not just 528 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: not supporting me like you saying Dan, exactly right. Also, yes, 529 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: she is also blocking me from securing my own legal representation. 530 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: So not only is she saying that she doesn't want 531 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: to sue the Speaker and sent a President herself, which 532 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: is actually her job. She's supposed to be suing them 533 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: right now for breaking the law, she's refusing to do so, 534 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: and she's blaming everybody else but herself. But she's also 535 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: blocking me from getting my own attorney to be able 536 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: to just take this lawsuit to court on my own 537 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: without her. So, with all due respect, I mean, she 538 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: could have refused herself from this. She should have said 539 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: she was conflicted out, she had a way out of 540 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: this conversation. She chose instead to obstruct our access to 541 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: the justice system and to actually try to prevent this 542 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: from accessing a courtroom even without her. I said, hey, 543 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: if you don't want to take this case, I think 544 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: it's a loss for you. I think it's a missed 545 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: opportunity to stand with the people of Massachusetts and to 546 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: sue the speaker ands and a president for their law 547 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: breaking and stand for transparency and for sunlight and for 548 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: this audit to get conducted. But if you don't want 549 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: to do it, Madam Attorney General, no worries. Just let 550 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: me get my own attorney. I'll sue them. And she's 551 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: blocking me from suing them, so she won't do her 552 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: job and sue them herself, which is her job to do. 553 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm not an attorney, she's the attorney. It's her job 554 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: to sue as the top law enforcement officer of this commonwealth. 555 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: But she also won't even let me get another attorne 556 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: and she's blocking it, and she's using every single legal 557 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: strategy possible and just just making up things to try 558 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: to keep us out of court. And that is totally unacceptable. 559 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: It's unreal, folks. I've never seen anything like this, and 560 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of crazy stuff on Beacon Hell, 561 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 3: I've worked up there for a long time. This is 562 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: the craziest time period that I have worked in up there, 563 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: and it's gotten out of control. We need to stand up. 564 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: We need to take out you. 565 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: We need to keep up, Bob. Thank you. I passed 566 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: my break and I got packed lines, so I got 567 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: other folks. I got to try to get it. Thank you. No, Bob, 568 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: you've had nine minutes, nine minutes, and I appreciate your call. 569 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: I very much do and I know this. I know 570 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: the auditor does as well. But I have to take 571 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: a break and I have other calls. I got to 572 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: get to Thank you very much, Bob. Spread the word. 573 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: We'll be back on nights Side right after this very 574 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: quick break. 575 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: It's nice side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 576 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: We're back. We are very tight on time. Going to 577 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: go quickly to Dennis and Lowell. Dennis, you're on with 578 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: Diana Disaugly, go right ahead, Dennis. 579 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 11: Good evening, Dan, good evening, Diana. I couldn't resist calling 580 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 11: tonight with your very special guest, Diana. You are a 581 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 11: shining star in the political universe of Massachusetts and I 582 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 11: wish you the very best and anything I can do 583 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 11: to help you and support you, I will thank you. 584 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Dennis, you have the best. It's always great 585 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: to hear from you, my friend. I'll see you in 586 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: Lowell soon. 587 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure I begs Dennis. I appreciate it very much. 588 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Joe and Lynn. Joe, you got to 589 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: be equally quick for me here time. 590 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 8: Absolutely well. Diana, you're a sweetheart, even though you're a Democrat. 591 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 8: I don't care. I agree with you. I don't like 592 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 8: undisclosed agreements. Are you up on Beacon Hill? Because I'd 593 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 8: like to come up and talk with you and maybe 594 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 8: I know you can't do much but get rid of 595 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 8: my frustration. Maybe I can work for you in your campaign. 596 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 8: So let us know. I how we can reach you 597 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 8: by phone? I possible? Where is that? Where your office 598 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 8: is on Beacon Hill? But I'm glad you're the first 599 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 8: person i've met. Uh, And I don't like these undisclosed agreenness. 600 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 8: Nobody admits wrong, but they'll give you a million dollars. 601 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: You know what, Jo, you can you can call just 602 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: called the operator UH and you can get the mean 603 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: number and UH tell them the auditor's office that you'd like. 604 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 8: Okay, great, Thank you very much. 605 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: Dan, appreciate it. 606 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And you know, I love I 607 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: love what Joe was just saying Dan about just you know, 608 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 3: UH that I'm a Democrat, but he's but he's happy 609 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: with what we're doing anyways. And I think that's the 610 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: really important part. This one is an important point. This 611 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: is this is this is non part is and stuff, 612 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: and I think it's a great point. We're living in 613 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: a very politically divisive time at the federal level, and 614 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 3: we have a lot of you know, divisiveness going on, 615 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 3: and neighbors hating neighbors, and people not working together because 616 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: of their party affiliation. And I just look, I grew 617 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: up in a in a local neighborhood in matsuin Massachusetts, 618 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: up on the New Hampshire border, and it's my hometown. 619 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: And you know, growing up, nobody ever talked about they 620 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: were Democrat, Republican, they were conservative, liberal. We all just 621 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: we all just worked together. And we were talking about right, 622 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: helping one another. Yeah, to help one another, to be 623 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: kind and to work together to solve problems, and to 624 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: put out differences aside. And it's okay for us to 625 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: have policy disagreements. If somebody agreed with me one hundred 626 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: percent of the time, I think there was something wrong 627 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: with them. You know, not even spouses agree with each 628 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: other one hundred percent of the time, you know. If 629 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 3: but if you can agree with me on some of 630 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: the major issues that we're concerned about right now, you know, 631 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 3: then I look forward to working with you. We don't 632 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 3: have to agree on everything. No one agrees one hundred 633 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: percent of the time, you know. That's what makes this 634 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: state so beautiful. 635 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: We have, we have opinion and thought I have and 636 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: more people want to talk to me, and so let 637 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: me try to get at least one maybe two. Wed 638 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: let me go next to Mike and Taunt and we're 639 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: all over the state tonight with the state of order 640 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: to Diana Dezaglio from loll to Taunting, UH and elsewhere. 641 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mike, good evening, Good evening again, Mike Ford 642 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: from Cotton, UH, thank you very much. And miss Zachmiano, 643 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 4: pleasure to meet you again. And I just want to 644 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 4: know you mentioned about twelve thousand signatures. I imagine you 645 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 4: need to get a bill on the ballot where and when. 646 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 3: Thank you so much so that that's going to be 647 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 3: this spring, and I think they come out in March 648 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: or April. I'm gonna keep posting on it. I'll let 649 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: Dan know and Dan will make sure to tell everybody. 650 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: But they are going to be do this spring and 651 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: thanks for volunteering, is what I'm hearing you say, Mark, 652 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: because I'm going to ask you to go to Diana 653 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 3: at dianadizoglio dot com. That's Diana at dianadizoglio dot com. 654 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: You're going to click on the ballot button and you 655 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: can sign up there to volunteer. And what will happen 656 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: is we'll try to look at that list, you know, 657 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: as the signature sheets come out, and we are going 658 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 3: to send out an email with the ability to have 659 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: an attached PDF that you can print out, and you 660 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: can take those signature sheets. You can take them via 661 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: family cookouts, you can take them to you know, wherever 662 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: you know it is that you go grocery shopping, whatever 663 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 3: you like, just hanging out with your friends, and ask 664 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: people in your local community to sign those sheets. And 665 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 3: that will help us tremendously to make sure that we 666 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: get this public records reform issue on the ballot so 667 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 3: that the governor's office is in the legislature have to 668 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 3: give you matters of public record as the tax paying 669 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: members of the general public. 670 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: And Mike, what I'm going to do is I want 671 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: you to hold on Rob will give you the Diana 672 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: at Dianadzaglio dot com. Thank you email right, Okay, you 673 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: hang on. Let me get one more in here very quickly. 674 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 2: Brian and Peebty. Brian, you are next on Night Side. 675 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: You've the last caller, You're the latest yugo. Right ahead, 676 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: whatever you got, you got to do it quickly. Go ahead, Brian. 677 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 9: I want more, Diana thus Auglio. I try to keep 678 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 9: politics at an arms length. I'm looking for people like 679 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 9: today's politics and devices. I'm trying to find people that 680 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 9: are bringing people together. This is an issue past seventy 681 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 9: two percent on the last ballot, YEP, that brings people together. 682 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 9: Just by that number, I'm attracted to it. I want 683 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 9: to know more about it, and I want more Diana. 684 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 9: I think I'm all for it. I'm going to be 685 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 9: I'm on board. 686 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: Will you keep listening to Night Side? Diana. You got 687 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: another supporter here, Brian in Peavity. 688 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 3: Brian, thank you so so much for your support. If 689 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 3: you want to help out at any point, please feel 690 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: free to just check out my website. It's Diana Dianatzauglio 691 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: dot com. And again, we need a lot of help 692 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 3: with that ballot question. This year, it's my hope that 693 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 3: we'll pass this next ballot question by an even larger 694 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: majority of support, bringing, like you said, Brian, even more 695 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 3: people together in Massachusetts, crossing those party lines to get 696 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: the job done for regular, everyday people. 697 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: Ran. Thanks. Rob will give you the precise spelling of 698 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: the website. You just stay on the line. Rob will 699 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: take care of you on that. Diana, you can see 700 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: there's a lot of support for your cause, and please 701 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 2: we will keep in touch and we will do something 702 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: between now and November with you as frequently as you want, 703 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: because this is an important issue. Thanks so much for 704 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: taking an hour of your time on a Friday night 705 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 2: in advance of a snowstorm. Let's hope this is anything 706 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: and rather be. 707 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: Doing Dan, what else would I rather be doing? 708 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 6: Well? 709 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: You great, Dan on w busy night side and great 710 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 3: to be with everybody. Thanks for hanging on, Thanks for 711 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 3: listening today, and thanks for calling in folks. I really 712 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: appreciate it. 713 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: We'll get your blizzard of votes next November to match 714 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: the blizzard that's coming this weekend. 715 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 3: Thanks Diana bringing the blizzard into the conversation. 716 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: Good job with that, Dan, Thanks very much. A segue 717 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 2: all right here. We get news coming up on the blizzard, 718 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk the next hour about are 719 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: you ready? What did you do today, What are you 720 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 2: going to do tomorrow? What are you ready? That's really 721 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 2: the question coming back on Nightside, light them up, coming 722 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: back right after the tenth