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Speaker 2: There we go slowly back on seven hundred wlw wood

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Speaker 2: a day with a day with a day, always be

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Speaker 2: scared when a politician goes it's about the children.

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Speaker 3: It's about the children, remember, And it happens all the

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Speaker 3: time when people on when progressives talk about doing things

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Speaker 3: conservatives laugh at them and go, my god, there's exploiting

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Speaker 4: It's about the children. Got to save the children.

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Speaker 3: Governor Mike Dwine and his jihad against anything pleasurable like

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Speaker 3: Hemp or Potts on full display this morning, as the

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Speaker 3: governor has issued a ninety day ban on THC infused

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Speaker 3: gummies and beverages sold outside of licensed marijuana dispensaries. So

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Speaker 3: if you're a retailer, you got to pull all these products,

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Speaker 3: all sales, all the displays after there can be no

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Speaker 3: sight of anything CBD related after October fourteenth. Got to

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Speaker 3: be gone by October fourteenth, midnight twelve o one am,

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Speaker 3: October fourteenth. Otherwise, well, you're gonna get You're gonna get

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Speaker 3: a good talking to is what's going to happen there.

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Speaker 3: So what does it mean for small businesses in Ohio?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean for you as an adult and

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Speaker 3: choosing what goes into your body. You're still going to

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Speaker 3: be able to get CBD seltzer at a bar, which

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Speaker 3: is extremely popular. A lot of questions. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how many answers they have, but maybe got caught up.

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Speaker 3: And this is Jason Friedman. Jason runs Ohio CBD Guys

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Speaker 3: stores in the East Walnut Hills and Montgomery and Jose

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Speaker 3: the show. Now, Jason, how are you man?

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Speaker 5: Doing great?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you losing money and doing your part,

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Speaker 3: and maybe your business goes away to save the children.

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Speaker 3: It's the least you could do if you cared about children.

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Speaker 3: Damn it, Jason, you wouldn't sell these products to adults.

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Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, it's been quite a forty eight hour

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Speaker 6: Scott feeling frustrated but actually cautiously optimistic. Here, okay, this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll start with this, okay. And I understand

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of tongue in cheek about this because it's

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Speaker 3: concerning if if you know, they do an undercover operation

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Speaker 3: carryout or something like that, and they go in and

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Speaker 3: they buy a product that that feels like, taste like,

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Speaker 3: there can sell it to people underage, which is not

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Speaker 3: a good thing at all. And some of these products

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Speaker 3: mimic candy packaging. The one that the wine was holding

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Speaker 3: bothers me. That should not be happening. But it doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean you should ban it, but we need to control that, agreed.

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Speaker 7: I agree.

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Speaker 6: And while I the governor's focus on regulating these intoxicating

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Speaker 6: to children, which we are aligned on. I disagree with

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Speaker 6: the methodology to which he's using to achieve his goal,

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Speaker 6: which is disastrous to small businesses like mine.

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't make a lot of sense because they

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Speaker 4: That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: If the legislature can't legislate, that's on those who we

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Speaker 4: That's something you all got to figure out.

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Speaker 3: But issuing a ninety day ban and all this stuff,

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Speaker 3: which is largely almost all exclusively consumed by adults, is nonsensical.

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Speaker 6: Correct, And my understanding is that he took this action

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Speaker 6: clarification that's needed on what the definition of intoxicating HEMP

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's a short time. But the problem

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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, now when the blank of eye,

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Speaker 3: That doesn't look like small governed government conservatism to me,

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Speaker 6: I agree one hundred percent. And I also think the

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Speaker 6: that check IDs don't sell products that have any kid

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Speaker 6: legally since twenty eighteen, but to threaten our livelihood by implementing.

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Speaker 5: This order is just flat out wrong.

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Speaker 6: The legislators need to get working and passed the regulation

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Speaker 4: And that's what this says. This is a squeeze on

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Speaker 3: And I'll get into that a little bit more in

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Speaker 3: of course you drive all over the place, you see

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Speaker 3: manufacturers supply not just this, but also THCCBD infused drinks

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Speaker 3: like beers and in particularly selters. My wife's a big

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Speaker 3: the beer sales are going down. Sales of this are

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Speaker 6: Well, you literally took the words out of the mouth.

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Speaker 6: that's one of the reasons you're seeing these THHC seltzers growing.

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Speaker 6: We absolutely sell the sunflower product by fifty West in

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Speaker 6: THC Seltzer. It's probably the fastest part of our business.

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Speaker 6: And a question was asked during the press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 6: Legally do they have to stop selling these products too?

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Speaker 6: So again, there's a lot that needs to be cleared

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Speaker 3: Do you see like a lawsuit and an injunction coming

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I think there are questions as to the legality

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe for those listening going listen, I don't

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Speaker 3: I know is it can kill children. Let's start with

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Speaker 3: that one, because it's about the children, right. The wine

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Speaker 3: they take one and now they're high. But we saw

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that was you know, poison Control Center's

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Speaker 4: But what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: How many kids have died, how many kids have been

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Speaker 4: Do you die from that?

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Speaker 6: So it as far as THHC goes, there's a reason

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Speaker 6: kids or their brains are still developing. It's not a

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Speaker 6: absolutely have adverse reactions triggered by the THC. But again,

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Speaker 6: And as far as the kids getting their hands on it, look,

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Speaker 9: So again, why are responsible businesses like mine being penalized

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the outrage the same group of people

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Speaker 3: many kids are getting shot in Cincinnati. There are too

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Speaker 3: many accidental gun discharges. We have to have a trigger lock.

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Speaker 6: There is a way to achieve this responsibly, Scott, and

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Speaker 6: this is not the way to go about doing it.

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Speaker 6: And I'm hopeful that this there will be a resolution

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't think it's any secret Scott that big

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Speaker 3: But legislate there, go go after them, make examples of them,

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Speaker 3: You're caught up in a political power plays with this

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Scott, take care.

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Speaker 3: We'll get a time out in. It's about the children.

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Speaker 3: be a little silly and sleep it all. Or my

436
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 3: pet got it. I mean, you know, it could be

437
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Speaker 3: a host of things. Did they get it from a

438
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Speaker 3: medical supply because medical marijuana is legal recreationally. Don't know

439
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: how much of this is what we're talking about here,

440
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 3: but nonetheless, it is a an absolutely sweeping order from

441
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Speaker 3: the governor ordering this ninety day ban on THHG infused coummies.

442
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Speaker 3: You may go listen, Sloan. I don't care. I don't

443
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: use that stuff. I don't really know anybody that does.

444
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 3: You know, you made a big deal of the vaping.

445
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't vape, but you know, we we all do

446
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: something that someone else does. I don't get it. I

447
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: don't know. It's not for me. But you know that's today.

448
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: Maybe tomorrow they come after something that's near and dear

449
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: to you. And the point of the matter is, as

450
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 3: we got in this, how we got to this point

451
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: where you have allegedly a conservative government in Ohio, conservative

452
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: run legislature doing things like banning a product that is

453
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Speaker 3: manufactured and created in Ohioans for Ohioans. And now you're

454
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Speaker 3: simply saying, because the legislature can't figure out a way

455
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Speaker 3: to regulate the product, we're going to simply take it away.

456
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Speaker 3: What about all these small businesses, What about the capital,

457
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Speaker 3: what about the investors? What about the people who probably

458
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: a lot of them voted and supported you, Mike de

459
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Speaker 3: Wine and state legislature that are now getting the rug

460
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: literally pulled out from under them. Because while you didn't

461
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: regulate this, that your opportunity to do that. You could

462
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Speaker 3: still turn around and pass regulation right now and figure

463
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: out a way to make s to punish people who

464
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: are allowing this stuff getting the hands of kids. Why

465
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: don't you just do that? It's an easy fix. But

466
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Speaker 3: of course it's not about that, is it. Because when

467
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: the medical marijuana movement took root in Ohio, and it

468
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: was pretty clear to the legislation liketed officials that Ohion's wanted.

469
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Speaker 3: When we passed recreational weed. It passed like sixty percent

470
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Speaker 3: of the vote. That's incredible in this time and ages

471
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Speaker 3: where look how close presidential races are and council races.

472
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Speaker 3: It's little. It's it's by the skin of your teeth

473
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Speaker 3: you win an election. That was it was overwhelmingly passed

474
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Speaker 3: by OI. Clearly, clearly it was a mandate to get

475
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Speaker 3: out of the way and let us use weed because

476
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Speaker 3: we saw what happened in other states, and we went, yeah,

477
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Speaker 3: it's not as bad as Mike DeWine made it out

478
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Speaker 3: to me. I trade he traveled and memory traveled of

479
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Speaker 3: Colorado when he saw the devastation there. And meanwhile, Colorado

480
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 3: wins love the fact that they can get weed. It

481
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: doesn't mean there's no problems, but they enjoy the freedom

482
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Speaker 3: that they're allowed to do that as adults. Here, Well,

483
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: we passed it, and now we've got to go back

484
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 3: and the legislature had to go and screw things up.

485
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Speaker 3: And the fact of the matter is the confiscatory tax

486
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Speaker 3: that people pay on recreational marijuana drives people. If you're

487
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Speaker 3: a border state, I know people from here that and

488
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: I've gone when I've gone up that way, it's like,

489
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Speaker 3: ol stop. You go to Michigan. In hell, it's almost

490
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: like they're giving it away. Friends have come down from

491
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Speaker 3: Michigan'll bring some stuff in fifty bucks. You're set for

492
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Speaker 3: you know a year. That's not good for Ohio businesses.

493
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Speaker 3: You know what happened to small market? What happened to

494
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: the being a great competitor and getting government out of

495
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: the wall that falls away when we lose our mind

496
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Speaker 3: over saving the children. The minute any politicians screams out

497
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Speaker 3: saving the children, you know, it's not about that. You know,

498
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Speaker 3: it's about something else. And I'll point this out too. Okay,

499
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Speaker 3: how did we get to this point now where we're

500
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Speaker 3: you know, pulling seltzers and CBD and tintures and things

501
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Speaker 3: that people might enjoy.

502
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Speaker 4: Is not Number one?

503
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Speaker 3: Is the fact is we've so highly regulated and I

504
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: guess maybe not regulated as much as it is taxed

505
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: recreational weed that people are going to a cheap alternative

506
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: going well, you know you're naw me on a tax

507
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Speaker 3: I can only go to a certain place at a

508
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: certain time and talk to a certain guy. Get this,

509
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: I can go to any bar in the area and

510
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 3: get a THC infused seltzer. My wife really enjoys them.

511
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: She says, Yeah, I don't feel the next day as

512
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Speaker 3: bad as I do when I'm drinking alcohol.

513
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 3: And as beer sales decline and happened declining for a while,

515
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Speaker 3: we're seeing a lot of people be to lean into

516
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Speaker 3: THCH beverages. Well, guess what that'sply and demand. There's a

517
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Speaker 3: market for it. And now what you're saying is a

518
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Speaker 3: conservative market. Forces don't matter, the market doesn't dictate. That's

519
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: socialism then, right, because I thought you're against that state controlled,

520
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: state operated, state run Yeah, but this is different because

521
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: it's why, well, the children ain't about the children, it's

522
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: about the money. Now, they got to figure out a

523
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Speaker 3: way to tax I don't know THC seltzer's at the

524
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 3: same right that they do recreational weed. And next thing

525
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 3: you know, people won't be buying those because it's going

526
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Speaker 3: to cost you forty five dollars for a forty But again,

527
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: I thought that this was the party of being responsible

528
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: and getting the hell of the way. I guess not

529
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Speaker 3: and you know, maybe I'm old school, maybe more libertarian

530
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Speaker 3: than anything else. I look at this whole thing, and

531
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: you know, I got a call it like I see it.

532
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You know, there's a lot of people are

533
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: conservative that hate me because how dare I turn the

534
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 3: mirror around on these people. Well, if you're professing to

535
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: be the party of common sense, the party of individual responsibility,

536
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: the party of our inalienable, God given rights is granted

537
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: in the Constitution. The birth of our nation is inspired

538
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 3: by the declaration that our individual god given to liberty

539
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: should be preserved against the government and government intrusion. I

540
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: don't know how that stands up against what we're talking

541
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Speaker 3: about here, because it's the exact opposite. Can you pass

542
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: legislation to protect bad actors? And that would be I know,

543
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: some convenience store owners, I guess gas station owners people

544
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: like that from just randomly because they see profit over

545
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: everything else. They simply don't care, kind of like someone

546
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: who's pushing drugs.

547
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: They don't see the.

548
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: Effects of you know, they're narcotic sale, they're opiate sales.

549
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: There the sales of illicit street drugs that are killing

550
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: people and getting people jam. They don't care. They care

551
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: about the money. Those people need to be made examples

552
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: up and segregated from missus Hidi. Whether it's a street

553
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: pusher or some guy to carry out at a corner

554
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: who's selling this stuff to twelve year olds, make a rule.

555
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: Go after them, Go go after their liquor license, go

556
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: after their life.

557
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: Make an example of them to dissuade that kind of behavior,

558
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: because that's what offset's greed. Regulation, but far beyond regulation,

559
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: and I guess I should say rules more than regulation.

560
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 3: This is simply extermination. And the overwhelming majority of people

561
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: who enjoy these products are adults. Kids are getting their

562
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: hands on it, but at a very very small number.

563
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Speaker 3: And when you say it's about protecting the children, then

564
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Mike. That then means you have to go

565
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: after guns. You have to go over alcohol, you have

566
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Speaker 3: to go after cars, the things that kids can hurt

567
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: and kill themselves with. We just had a shooting wear

568
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: in Westchester of all Lakota for crying out loud, kids

569
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: getting shot. It's in downtown Cincinnati. This isn't like the

570
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: you know, this is an OTR. We're talking about the

571
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: white ass Westchester and kids getting shot out there. I

572
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: don't know what the story is with the gun, but

573
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: you could make an example, I'd say, so, if it's

574
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: about the children, then we've got to do something about

575
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: the kids getting shot randomly and discriminately and innocently and

576
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: ending their lives. We've got to do We can't do

577
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: anything about the guns. But why we can ban bullets?

578
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: My god, you'd be run out of the You'd be

579
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 3: run out of Columbus on a rail if you propose that.

580
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: But how's this any different to me?

581
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: It's not.

582
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: It's part and parcel at least. You know what, if

583
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 3: you say I'm a conservative and it means something, what's

584
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: that mean? Individual freedom, limited government, rule of law, fiscal responsibility.

585
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: Where in today's Republican party, whether it's the state or

586
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: whether it's especially nationally, do we see that at all?

587
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: Fiscal responsibility? How much is that big beautiful bill costing us?

588
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: How much is this government? Well the Democrats are responsible

589
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: with this, but a trillion and a half dollars to

590
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: keep the government open for seven weeks seems like a bargain.

591
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: And we're thirty seven thirty eight trillion in death the

592
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: rule of law? You kind of ended that play in

593
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: January sixth dn't you all the way up to today

594
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: in individual freedom and limited government? Yeah, cracking down on

595
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 3: books and gay marriage and drag shows. Seltzer, where's the liberty?

596
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: Man?

597
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: It may not be for you, but it may be

598
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Speaker 3: for me. And find me the societal harm that's driving

599
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: any of this stuff.

600
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: And you won't.

601
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you're wrong about that because kids are

602
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: getting these gummies and they're eating the gummies.

603
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: Are they dying?

604
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 7: No?

605
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: Are they getting sick? Yeah, that's scary, it's frightening, it's frightening.

606
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: But if that is a low standard for a ban,

607
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 3: then there's a lot of things in this country and

608
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: in the state that are screaming for a ban.

609
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: You feel me?

610
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Five three, seven, four nine, seven, eight hundred the Big

611
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: one talk back radio out Let me get to Barry

612
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: in Miamisburg on seven hundred.

613
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: W over Hey, Barry Hey.

614
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 12: It boils down to middle of the roads quote unquote

615
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 12: Republicans who would rather raise taxes than have big government

616
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 12: jobs paid for by more taxes, and more taxes than

617
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Speaker 12: anything else. I mean, really, who cares about marijuana or

618
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 12: beer or any other other things they tax? It's not

619
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Speaker 12: out of it's all about money for Columbus.

620
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: Well, no question.

621
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Speaker 3: They look at the look at the tax that they

622
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Speaker 3: look at the tax that they put on on recreacial marijuana,

623
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: and they're looking at going wow, people are going, hey,

624
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: you know what, I can still at my buzz on

625
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: by circumventing that and going after a you know, a

626
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: delta eight laced seltzer or something along those lines. They

627
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: created this mess. And now it's like, well the tax

628
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: is so enormous. People are looking for a black market essentially,

629
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: is what they're saying is you created the black market.

630
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Speaker 6: Look at how.

631
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Speaker 13: Hard they fought again letting people.

632
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 12: Grow their own Amen, because you can't patch something somebody

633
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 12: grows in their living room.

634
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: This is and you're absolutely right, thanks for the call.

635
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: And that's the problem with politics, Like how many times

636
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: a day do I say that we have a part

637
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: two party system. They're hollow, they're empty. It's a soulless

638
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: fundraising shell on both sides. It's and it's supported by

639
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: a shrinking number of cultists. And we and and part

640
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: of this driving this too is we are more individualistic

641
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: than ever before. I mean we you know, things like

642
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: like a better good societal rules are kind of going

643
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: away by this, and you know we we're not likely

644
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: to We're not like to say, hey, we're going to

645
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: take a sacrifice and do something for the common good.

646
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: We tend to look in that little individual sylum which

647
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: we're in, you know, a things like authorities, you know,

648
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: the government, schools, medical establishments all go by the wayside

649
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: because of that, because of what we're doing. But how

650
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: are the two parties helping to fix it?

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Speaker 4: They're not.

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Speaker 3: It's more about how much money we can raise and

653
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Speaker 3: how we can remain in power and leveraging all of

654
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Speaker 3: that against well, what the Constitution once stood for. And

655
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Speaker 3: it's a sad kind of decline. Does that mean America's over?

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Speaker 10: No?

657
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Speaker 3: But I think you know enough people get pissed off

658
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Speaker 3: when they start coming after things like this and go

659
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Speaker 3: all right, enough of this nonsense. We need some common

660
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Speaker 3: sense here. You know, you can't simply because I subscribe

661
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Speaker 3: to one political ally ideology the other simply turn a

662
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Speaker 3: blind eye towards what it is your I mean, what

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Speaker 3: do you stand for? If you if you if you

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Speaker 3: don't stand for something, you stand for nothing. What are

665
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Speaker 3: the core beliefs? What are the core tenants? Of what

666
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Speaker 3: we're talking about here. You know, I rattled off the

667
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Speaker 3: launderlist of what Republicans and Conservatives used to stand for

668
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Speaker 3: at one time, and I considered myself more Republican than

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Speaker 3: a conservative because the social issues. To me, I don't

670
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Speaker 3: care what you do in the privacy of your own home.

671
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Speaker 3: If you're a consenting adult and there's no grave harm

672
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Speaker 3: to society, then knock yourself out. And and I'm an

673
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Speaker 3: about libertarian in that sense. But all of these things

674
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Speaker 3: where we got to save the children from an imaginary

675
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Speaker 3: boogeyman at the expense of hard working men and women

676
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Speaker 3: Ohioans who invested life savings into trying to buy up

677
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Speaker 3: into the American dream and create a product that's taxed

678
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Speaker 3: but not outrageously taxed and sell it to an open market.

679
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: Seems to be something conservatives once not long ago stood for,

680
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Speaker 3: and now they're against it. Over to al and Montgomery

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Speaker 3: on seven hundred w Al thebody Scott's loan show, OWT,

682
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Speaker 3: what do you got.

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Speaker 10: Good?

684
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Speaker 4: I'm good, right good.

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Speaker 13: Now you reminded me of of old Bill Clinton.

686
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Speaker 5: Where you fight the children.

687
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Speaker 4: It's for the children.

688
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Whenever he wanted.

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Speaker 13: To do any but anyway, I first to say, I

690
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Speaker 13: don't you know marking anything that up. But I thought,

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Speaker 13: and I might be wrong, that this legislation was only

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Speaker 13: for a synthetic uh EHC products probably a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit more first than I am in that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's a good thing. I didn't

695
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Speaker 3: get it, and your your phone's kind of breaking up.

696
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Speaker 3: I'll let you go, man, I appreciate you checking in. No,

697
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Speaker 3: that is that's a solid point in thh fused infused

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Speaker 3: gummies and the like, and it's got to have a

699
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Speaker 3: percentage of TFC. And I again, I know enough about

700
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Speaker 3: it to be dangerous, but I'm certainly no chemist here.

701
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not Walter White or anything like that.

702
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Speaker 3: But they back in the day that with the core

703
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Speaker 3: of this whole thing was separating hemp from intoxica. So

704
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Speaker 3: hemps a plant and hep you can make. You know,

705
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Speaker 3: there's fabric. Think about I don't know, you know, you're

706
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Speaker 3: you're petullia oil smelling hippie. Think of like Woody Harrelson

707
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Speaker 3: wearing I don't know it's wearing some sort of hemp

708
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Speaker 3: hem shirt or something like that.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna get high.

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Speaker 3: You can eat that hemp and smoke it, and there's

711
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Speaker 3: the intoxicating portion of that. So there's a non intoxic

712
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Speaker 3: any plant that was legalized by the General Assembly if

713
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Speaker 3: you years ago. And the problem was when they created this,

714
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Speaker 3: they didn't differentiate and so people are like, well, it's

715
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Speaker 3: a hemp products, a hemp derivative, and there's hemp derivative

716
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Speaker 3: derived can cannabinoids that produce the psycho psychoactive effects would

717
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Speaker 3: be similar to THHC, like Delta eight, Delta nine is

718
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Speaker 3: actually weed. Delta eight is one component off. Delta ten

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Speaker 3: has I don't know, maybe one more component of it,

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Speaker 3: but essentially has the same effect. Delta HTC is a

721
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Speaker 3: psychoactive compound that comes from a hemp product and the

722
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Speaker 3: highest similar to traditional delta nine THHDA. It's chemically similar

723
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Speaker 3: and you can synthesize that and extract it from the

724
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Speaker 3: hemp plants still a plant. Okay, so you're right, You're

725
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Speaker 3: right and wrong at the same time. And so they said, well,

726
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Speaker 3: if we take this now and it has the same effect,

727
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Speaker 3: I can put it in a WEP form. I could

728
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Speaker 3: also put it in a seltzer. I could put it

729
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Speaker 3: in tinture, which is like a little eyedropper thing you

730
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Speaker 3: put on your tongue or whatever. The delivery or a

731
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Speaker 3: gummy or whatever, the delivery system is Okay, So that's

732
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Speaker 3: the legal loophole.

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Speaker 8: That was good.

734
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Speaker 3: Why not just go back and change a loophole then

735
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Speaker 3: and say, if it's intoxicating, okay, here's some regulation with it.

736
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Speaker 3: Doing that, we're shutting the whole thing down, which is

737
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Speaker 3: a disturbing part. But let's go back and look at well,

738
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Speaker 3: why would they come up with something, Why wouldn't you

739
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Speaker 3: Why would you come up with delta eight? And why

740
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Speaker 3: would you take camp in delta ten and have these

741
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Speaker 3: you know, chemically different, mollectually slightly different if it has

742
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Speaker 3: the same effect as marijuana. Well, to answer your question,

743
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Speaker 3: I'll come back full circle back to the wine, back

744
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Speaker 3: to the legislature. That is, the markets are always going

745
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: to find a way to sell stuff to people that

746
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Speaker 3: they want. There's a huge demand for getting high, right,

747
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Speaker 3: or for alleviating pain in the case maybe with me

748
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Speaker 3: and I like to get high, but also with austin,

749
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Speaker 3: you know, right, and ligaments that are torn and stuff

750
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Speaker 3: like that. You know, I prefer that of roqui. It's honestly,

751
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Speaker 3: I do, because you get a good night sleep. A

752
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: lot of people do, and so people learned that and went, yeah, okay,

753
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: there's something to this. It's you know, maybe there's a long,

754
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Speaker 3: long term health effect, but right now I can't sleep

755
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Speaker 3: because you know, I don't I don't have any if

756
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Speaker 3: I have bone on bone in my shoulder, my knee

757
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Speaker 3: or my back or whatever it might be. Or maybe

758
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: I just like the buzz better than alcohol. What's wrong

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Speaker 3: with that?

760
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Speaker 4: Nothing?

761
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: Nothing, but the whole reason why these synthetics in these

762
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Speaker 3: derivatives were made. Why was because of the ban on

763
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Speaker 3: marijuana in the first place. It was the prohibition. So

764
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Speaker 3: Mike DeWine, who's been anti marijuana's whole life, helped create

765
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Speaker 3: this problem that he's now trying to solve, and that

766
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Speaker 3: if you tell people you can't have it because I

767
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Speaker 3: don't like it, because I think it's bad for you

768
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Speaker 3: and I know better and it's a nanty state, then

769
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Speaker 3: the markets will find try and find a way around that.

770
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Speaker 3: It's like, well, okay, I can't sell you a weed,

771
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Speaker 3: but you know we're pretty smart in the creative in

772
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Speaker 3: business class, and that we'll find a way. We'll come

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Speaker 3: up with something to satisfy avoid in the market and

774
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Speaker 3: eaed in the market. It's always worked that way in capitalism,

775
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Speaker 3: and in this case it was marijuana. Like, okay, well

776
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Speaker 3: we've got delta eight, which is not really marijuana. It's close.

777
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Speaker 3: Give you the same buzz. Well that's a loophole, Yeah,

778
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Speaker 3: it's a Look, the reason why is because you banned

779
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Speaker 3: marijuana and now someone found a way around that. To

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Speaker 3: statis why the capitalistic need the consumer economy. And that's

781
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: all this is, either we are a consumer capitalist economy

782
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Speaker 3: or not. In the legislature, these politicians spend you spend

783
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: a lot of time telling you they're.

784
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Speaker 4: Not socialists or whatever is it might be, but they

785
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Speaker 4: sure as hell.

786
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Speaker 3: Act like it, don't they The home of the best

787
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Speaker 3: Bengals coverage seven hundred WW Cincinnati.

788
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Speaker 7: Do you want to be a.

789
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Speaker 2: Flowing back on seven hundred WLW?

790
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Speaker 3: Are we on the Fourth Industrial Revolution? What? What fourth

791
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: industrial legs? The first one was a coal in steam power,

792
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: second revolution was gas, third was the digital revolution beginning

793
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Speaker 3: in the late nineteen sixties, and the fourth one is

794
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Speaker 3: a I artificial intelligence. Recently, Elon Musk said there's a

795
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Speaker 3: twenty percent chance that AI will take over humanity essentially

796
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Speaker 3: on humans won't be in existence any longer than can

797
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Speaker 3: copewters will take over literally the stuff of science fiction.

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Speaker 4: Frightening, isn't it? And uh, I did twenty percent.

799
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Speaker 3: There's other things that's probably a ten percent chance, But

800
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Speaker 3: that's today. What happens tomorrow? And as I mentioned this,

801
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: there's a new AI bought out there that with a

802
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: couple of keystrokes, just words, you can create literally visual

803
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Speaker 3: content that is about as realistic as what you see

804
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Speaker 3: with the naked eye. Frightening. What that means for well, entertainment,

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Speaker 3: news and everything else. Chris McKenzie's here. He's a nonprofit

806
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Speaker 3: called Americans for Responsible Innovation. They cover AI policy and

807
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Speaker 3: the public interest. Chris, welcome, Hi, shot, I'm going to

808
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Speaker 3: be on with you. We've always had fear of the unknown.

809
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: We have fomo now, but we also had fear of

810
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: the unknown. Those two factors go together, like peanut, butter

811
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Speaker 3: and jelly, go back to the days of the cave man.

812
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Speaker 4: Right, here's four cave men and there what do they

813
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Speaker 4: carry off? Pelts?

814
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Speaker 3: They've got their pelts, different pelts of things and pelts,

815
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Speaker 3: and we're bringing pelts here and we need pelts for

816
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: the winner pelts, pelts, pelts, and some guy goes, hey,

817
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Speaker 3: what if we took this thing, we'll call it a

818
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Speaker 3: week and now now we just need one guy.

819
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Speaker 4: We don't need for it. Why are you going to

820
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Speaker 4: put me out of a job? This is anything different.

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Speaker 5: That's a good point, you know. Resistance to automation, I

822
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: like to say, is a story as old as jobs themselves.

823
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Speaker 5: Right whether you're talking about lamp lighters protesting the advent

824
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Speaker 5: of the street lamp, or textile workers strikes that shook

825
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Speaker 5: England during the Industrial Revolution, this story has been playing

826
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Speaker 5: out for a long time. And as you noted earlier,

827
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Speaker 5: we're in a moment of rapid technological change with AI

828
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: right now that is similar to the Industrial Revolution in

829
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Speaker 5: a lot of ways. It's likely to increase productivity, it will.

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Speaker 7: Probably benefit consumers in.

831
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Speaker 5: Many ways over the long run, but in the short run,

832
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Speaker 5: it's likely to place millions upon millions of workers. And

833
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 5: the key difference here, something to keep in mind, is

834
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Speaker 5: in its pace. The Industrial Revolution took place over many,

835
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Speaker 5: many decades.

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Speaker 10: You know.

837
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Speaker 5: The first commercial steam engine was designed in seventeen twelve.

838
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Speaker 5: Then it took seventy years after that before we put

839
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Speaker 5: the steam engine into a train, and then forty years

840
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: before that locomotive train was common. Compare that to AI.

841
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Speaker 5: CHANGGBT was released a couple of years ago, and companies

842
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: across the economy are already trying to figure out how

843
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: does this fit into their business and what pieces of

844
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Speaker 5: their business can be automated.

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Speaker 3: Which has all of us in the work sector looking

846
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Speaker 3: over our shoulders. And it's not just manufacturing and imports

847
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: and shipping and car manufacturing. Accountants, lawyers, software engineers, graphic designers, drivers,

848
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Speaker 3: you know. With AI and autonomous vehicles, all that and

849
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Speaker 3: many many more fields are now in jeopardy. When they

850
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Speaker 3: once were. You thought, Hey, I'm an account I'm a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: I'm an engineer, I'm set for life. No, that's not

852
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Speaker 3: true anymore.

853
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Speaker 5: That's absolutely true. Depending on your field, the AI will

854
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 5: impact employment in different ways and at a different pace.

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Speaker 5: What's expected to happen is that AI will probably impact

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Speaker 5: the INDUS treat retail moving and shipping first, and it could,

857
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 5: but in the long run, again, as you noted, it'll

858
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Speaker 5: impact a really broad range of sectors, including sectors that

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Speaker 5: we previously thought were safe for automation.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the radio industry.

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Speaker 3: As we sit here and have this conversation on the radio,

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Speaker 3: I saw not long ago that there was a djab

863
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Speaker 3: at music station. I believe this is an Australia, I

864
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Speaker 3: want to say. And they couldn't figure out who this

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00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: new voice was whatever. About six months into it, the

866
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: company divulges it's AI. It's not a real person. And

867
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: everyone thought it was a real person because they're sharing

868
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: intimate personal stories and everything else. And you know, it's

869
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: that always case where it's like, well, you know it's

870
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: not going to impact my job, Well, it's impacting our

871
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: jobs right and tomorrow It may not be years today,

872
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: but tomorrow it is going to be years. I think

873
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: a great example of that of the porch. It wasn't

874
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: long ago we had the port strikes in America. We're

875
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: woefully behind the rest of the world would come to this.

876
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: But now they're fighting for their market share and jobs,

877
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: which I get. But the reality is the rest of

878
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: the world's already moved, Don and a lot of this

879
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: stuff is done with artificial intelligence and AI that controls robots.

880
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 7: I think you're right.

881
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: What we know is that there is a large displacement

882
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: of US workers coming because of the AI Revolution. Now, policymakers, unions,

883
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: employers have some successful examples from history to draw on

884
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 5: for how we can help workers transition into the future workforce.

885
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: During the Industrial Revolution, we created the public education system

886
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 5: and we implemented worker protections over a number of years.

887
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 5: That helps to create the factory jobs that we now

888
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 5: look back on and say, well, that was a good job,

889
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: that was a good paying job, and we miss that right.

890
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 5: The GI Bill is another example that helps eight million

891
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: World War two veterans find work back in the US

892
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 5: after the end of the war. Of course, we're facing

893
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: a displacement of workers much larger than eight million workers.

894
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 5: By some estimate, that's going to be forty seven percent

895
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 5: of the US workforce that's impacted by the implementation of AI.

896
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: WOW, and that brings up a whole host of other questions. Is,

897
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: all right, we've got a lot of people and there's

898
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 3: not enough jobs for everybody. How do we survive? Things

899
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: like universal basic income have come into play. I've also

900
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: heard people like I don't know, Bill Gay someone like that.

901
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 3: It's an idea that's been around for a while, which

902
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: involves actually taxing the AI and taxing the robots as

903
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: if they were a real.

904
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 8: Worker as possible.

905
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 5: I think what we need right now are big ideas

906
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: both in education and in worker protection, specifically over the

907
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 5: immediate term. One of the things that Congress can do

908
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: is implement protections to make sure that AI is not

909
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: used in an invasive, privacy intruding way on workers to

910
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: overly monitor their productivity in a way that's dehumanizing.

911
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: AI most certainly is going to take a lot of

912
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: jobs away, and there's going to be huge worker displacement

913
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: right there.

914
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: How do we navigate that?

915
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 5: You're correct, there are jobs that will you know, that

916
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: will have in the future that we can't imagine right

917
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 5: now because they are before the advent of computers, A

918
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 5: lot of the jobs that we're doing today we could

919
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: not have imagined. It did destroy jobs. There was the

920
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: process of creative destruction where many workers were displaced, but

921
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: it also created jobs. Even if you look at ports,

922
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 5: there are jobs operating automatic you know, cranes and highly

923
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 5: autonomous vehicles that we could not have imagined forty years ago.

924
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 5: The number of people those ports employee is different, but

925
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 5: there are new jobs that are on their way because

926
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 5: of this technological change as well.

927
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: It makes a sense, Chris, then to fight, if you're

928
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: a worker or existing worker, whether it's unions or not,

929
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: to protect workers from market forces instead of unsafe working conditions.

930
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: You know, there's still plenty of jobs out there that

931
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 3: are a little bit more dangerous than others. But clearly

932
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: in the last one hundred years in the industrial level revolution,

933
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: we're a lot safer than we have ever been in

934
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: the workplace because of the union, because of the rules

935
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: and regulations, and so as a result of this thing,

936
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: now maybe more of the focuses on the market forces,

937
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: which here would be AI. Is how they is that,

938
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: I guess in the union sense, is that how they

939
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: continue to stay relevant because worker safety seems pretty good.

940
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 5: I think you're actually going to see two types of

941
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 5: resistance to automation and the implementation of AI from workers

942
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: and unions. One is the replacement of jobs, which workers

943
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: are going to protest because they don't want to see

944
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 5: their jobs evaporate.

945
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 7: And the second is the unfair.

946
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: Implementation of AI that negatively impacts workers on the job.

947
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 5: Right and again, I turned to Privy as an example

948
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 5: where we see some companies have implemented AI in a

949
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 5: way that monitors employees every move in a very intrusive way.

950
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: It monitors their click movements maybe if you're on a computer,

951
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: and we're probably going to see some resistance to that

952
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: as well. So I would describe those as kind of

953
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: the two paths of resistance that will likely encounter a

954
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: day I is implemented.

955
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: It's pretty scary though, that half the jobs in America

956
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: are under threat from AI right now, which would totally

957
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: upend the Apple gart But as you said, and I

958
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: think of this often as that kids today, if you're

959
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: in school, you're training for a job that does not

960
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: yet exist. We'll just find a way to For example,

961
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: the computer, we're supposed to make our lives easier. Oh

962
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: my gosh, we'll have all this free time, and it's

963
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 3: made it harder. Isn't that going to happen with AI?

964
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 5: It'll make some things easier, it'll make some things harder.

965
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: You know, we have the computer now, it's made shopping easier.

966
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 5: For example, I have access to a whole world of

967
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: products that I did not USETAB. I do think computers

968
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 5: are really informive example, because in many ways it's made

969
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 5: the lives of consumers easier. It's given consumers access to

970
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 5: many products and things that they did not use to

971
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: have access to. But it's created two types of work,

972
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 5: and in some cases it feels like it's made life

973
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: harder for everyday workers in our economy.

974
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels that way's supposed to be.

975
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: Oh God, and we we'll spend all day going shopping

976
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: with our you know, going out with our family and

977
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: hanging out. No, we just spend all our days in

978
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: front of a screen. Now granted it's TikTok, it's Facebook,

979
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: it's other things. But you know, I think the nature

980
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: we work more as more hours than we used to.

981
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: In some cases, we've seen those studies come out go

982
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: and are actually spending more time working away from work

983
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 3: than it used to be.

984
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 4: In the old days.

985
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: You know, we'd punched the clock in eight hour shift,

986
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: ten hours whatever, we'd go home, we'd have the rest

987
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: of our lives. And now it just follows us home.

988
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: That's that's the point.

989
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you noted you know, computers, It depends on

990
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 5: how you frame it, right. Some people look at computers

991
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: and they say, well, they've made us much more productive,

992
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 5: But at the same time, what is that how does

993
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 5: that productivity manifest for workers themselves. Sometimes that's people checking

994
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: their phones after five pm. The thing can be said

995
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 5: a AI, it'll make workers more productive, but how does

996
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 5: that productivity manifest? Is that in you know, monitoring workers

997
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: every move, every click, and we need to make sure

998
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: protections are in place so that it's not implemented and

999
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: dehumanizing our unfair way.

1000
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly how quickly is this happening? We know AI

1001
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: is moving exceptionally fast. I mentioned the four industry revolutions

1002
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: with coal and gas and the digital revolution of the sixties,

1003
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: but this one is moving fast in all three of those.

1004
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 8: That's a really good question.

1005
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: What we've seen with past eras of technological transformation is

1006
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 5: that it comes in kind of a jay curve.

1007
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 7: Right.

1008
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 5: You see the implementation of technology, you see companies trying

1009
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: to figure it out, and there's a moment of actually

1010
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 5: not increasing productivity, but almost decreasing productivity. Is companies are

1011
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 5: still trying to flop this technology into their business model

1012
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: and figure out a way to make them more productive.

1013
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 5: And then there's a period of rapid transformation of rapidly

1014
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 5: increasing productivity.

1015
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 8: And we haven't hit that yet.

1016
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 5: We're still in the phase where companies are looking at

1017
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: this tech and trying to figure out how to implement it.

1018
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: But we will soon. We will soon see that era

1019
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 5: of rapid transformation.

1020
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: And I would suggest too that we're going to see

1021
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: a host of other careers developed as a result of

1022
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: AI that we don't know, as we've mentioned before, and

1023
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: so ultimately scares the hell out of us, because right

1024
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: now are going a Wow, my job may be eliminated.

1025
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: It's probably not going to be tomorrow. But you and

1026
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 3: I you ought to be looking over your shoulder.

1027
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 5: That's true. Your job won't be eliminated tomorrow. And I

1028
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 5: think what's important to think about is how can bringing

1029
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: AI into your work also help make you more productive

1030
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 5: as someone who's who's an employee right because it can

1031
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: help make employees more and more competitive piece of the

1032
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 5: workforce if they are able to find ways to implement

1033
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 5: AI in their own work.

1034
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: He's Chris McKenzie with the nonprofit Americans for Responsible Innovation.

1035
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: They handle AI policy and the public interests, not necessarily

1036
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 3: pro AI, but figuring out how it all works. And

1037
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: now maybe you got some questions answered, Brother's probably you

1038
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 3: probably have more questions than than answers at this point,

1039
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: which I get but it's so rapidly changing. If you're older,

1040
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 3: it'll affect you a little less, and retirement it'll affect

1041
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: you because AI will be doing more for you. But

1042
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: if you're in the workforce into your relatively younger middle age, uh,

1043
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: this is the future you're facing. As we all have.

1044
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: It's technological challenge. America is about innovation. We always lean

1045
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: into that. We don't shy away from it, or we

1046
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 3: shouldn't anyway. Chris, all the best, thanks.

1047
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 5: Again, Thank you, Scott, have a good one.

1048
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, too long, didn't read. We will figure it out.

1049
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: We always do.

1050
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: Now there's going to be a huge up people in jobs,

1051
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 3: and again there's going to be jobs created. We don't

1052
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: know that they don't exist right now, that it exists tomorrow.

1053
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: There's That's always been the case, and probably more so

1054
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: today than ever. New AI bot comes out says yeah,

1055
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: I put a couple keywords in and it will generate

1056
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: a fake video for you. And the video is unbelievably compelling.

1057
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: So what does that mean when you could with a

1058
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: few keystrokes create a I don't know, a program, a

1059
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: TV show, fake news, dialogue between two people. I mean

1060
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: the content that we watch on our screens, whether it's

1061
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: the one in your hand or the one on your wall.

1062
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 3: What is that going to look like in the next

1063
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: few years, over the next five, ten years, or simply like,

1064
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, does Hollywood go away because it's all AI? Now,

1065
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: that's a really really good question. Now I've see that's

1066
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: kind of hitting home for us here in the creative sector.

1067
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 3: Will the voice that you hear on the station or

1068
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: through your phone? I guess I won't even station will

1069
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: be an app in the future, just simply be something

1070
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: that's AI generated. I mean, we watch a lot of

1071
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: fake videos now and go, yeah, I think it's kind

1072
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: of fake, but it's funny dog driving a car.

1073
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: Look at that.

1074
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: That's pretty good and you watch it. Okay, So already

1075
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: consuming that count that we know is fake. In the

1076
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: future it won't. And what does that mean for news?

1077
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: What does that mean for information? Do we get more

1078
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: even more divided? That's even possible. When it comes to

1079
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 3: our worldview, We'll find such a niche of our that

1080
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 3: reflects our own narrow world views that collectivism and society

1081
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: for that matter, now becomes an out layer. We're moving

1082
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: more towards the individual and more away from society. A

1083
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: lot of people say that'll end America, this great experiment

1084
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: as we know it, will it or will just look different?

1085
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: Great questions and AA is going to drive this whole

1086
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: thing for sure. Anyway, let me get a news update

1087
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: in and that's real news with a live, breathing human being.

1088
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: Well it's Uchino, so I think it's I don't know.

1089
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 3: If he's breathing or he may be a bot himself,

1090
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: kind of looks like a bo Anyway, whoever has the news,

1091
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 3: we have it for you live and then we return afterwards.

1092
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: Scott's loan on seven hundred wlw's Sloaney rolling on with

1093
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: you here, seven hundred w LW. When politicians say it's

1094
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: about the.

1095
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: Children, it's about our children. They gotta save our.

1096
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: Children, and a never about saving no children, It's about

1097
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: something else. So yesterday Governor Mike DeWine issued a ninety

1098
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: day ban on THHC and fused gummies and beverages and

1099
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 3: outside outside licensed marijuana dispensary. So you got a license

1100
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: from the state and the tax goes along with that,

1101
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: and if you're not paying that veig then guess what

1102
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 3: We're gonna shut you down. That's a message I got

1103
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: into this. How about you? So bottom line is this,

1104
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: if you enjoy a I know THCHD infused gummy or

1105
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: a vape or a product. For example, a lot of

1106
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: brewers have added something new to their seltzer lineup, and

1107
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: that would be THC infused beverages for adults, sold at bars,

1108
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: sold at restaurants. People enjoy it, my wife loves them.

1109
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: According to the Governor's Band here they have to remove

1110
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: displays and sales by October fourteenth midnight October fourteenth. So

1111
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: what does this mean for I don't know, small businesses

1112
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: in Ohio and for those people who enjoy seltzers, particularly

1113
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 3: CDB seltzers.

1114
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: What does that? What does that even look like?

1115
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: I had Jason Freeman on the OICBD Guy first out

1116
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: of the show, and now it's Bobby Slattery. Bobby's the

1117
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: founder of fifty West and joins the show. Now, Bobby,

1118
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: how are you.

1119
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 8: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on the show.

1120
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: Appreciate you calling and checking in with us. I got

1121
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: to say, I mean, you guys are it seems like

1122
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: you're growing leaps and bounds with the retail establishments that

1123
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: you have, and it I mean it's really something. It's

1124
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: cool to see someone local do so well. But you know,

1125
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: here's the problem with this thing is you guys saw

1126
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: I mark good opportunity here. You invested sizable capital in

1127
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: CBD enhanced beverages, and now I'm sure you woke up

1128
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: this morning and went, what the hell just happened?

1129
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's funny.

1130
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 14: First off, I was driving in for a meeting this

1131
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 14: morning down at the County Commissioner's office that's something unrelated,

1132
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 14: and I was listening to your show and you kept

1133
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 14: saying our name, and I'm going, oh god, talking about us.

1134
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 14: I'm happy to talk. So I really appreciate you.

1135
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 8: You get me on the show and getting my perspective.

1136
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: So basically everything I said so far, did I miss anything.

1137
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm not going to slant.

1138
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: You know.

1139
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: I look at your success story and go, okay, you

1140
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: guys jump in the craft beer movement. You keep putting

1141
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: in new ventures. You've got new restaurants, and the Mason

1142
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 3: ones absolutely amazing. You got outdoor volleyball and his kid

1143
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: and dog friendly, and you're drinking beer and my wife

1144
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 3: likes the Seltzers that did the CBD infused ones, and

1145
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: you're like, there's a market opportunity here, and now you

1146
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: come along and the governor, in one swift move in

1147
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: three months is going to make this illegal.

1148
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: What's your reaction.

1149
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I think, first off, I'm I'm gonna

1150
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 14: I'm gonna eternal opit.

1151
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 8: So I'm trying to find the positives in this.

1152
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 14: The first about a flower product. We launched that about

1153
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 14: about a year ago. And when we launched it, we

1154
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 14: we saw this new space. We thought there might be

1155
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 14: a customer base there. We weren't really sure who it was.

1156
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 14: And what was amazing was the amount of customers that

1157
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 14: are that are moving away from alcohol, especially in the

1158
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 14: gen Z phase, but also as adults. Your wife might

1159
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 14: be one of these, but there's people that are just

1160
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 14: they don't want alcohol anymore. They beverage is a social occasion, right,

1161
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 14: the act of drinking that's always going to be something

1162
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 14: that we do, not necessarily drinking alcohol, but the active

1163
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 14: act of drinking a beverage. And so a lot of

1164
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 14: customers started to find this space where, you know, they

1165
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 14: wanted to be social, but they didn't want it to

1166
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 14: mess with their sleep patterns. And so our sunflower product,

1167
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 14: it was low milligram five milligram dosage, and so it

1168
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 14: became extremely popular, so much so that in our world,

1169
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 14: you know, craft beer is down tremendously across across the

1170
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 14: board nationwide, and beers down tremendously across the board. And

1171
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 14: so this year we've seen the largest decline ever in

1172
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 14: sales and craft beer in the history of fifty West.

1173
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 14: We are going to make more total barralage this year

1174
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 14: than we've ever made before.

1175
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 8: And that's coming from these.

1176
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 14: Five milligram THHC beverages that we call Sunflower, and so

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00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 14: I think and most of those people that are drinking

1178
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 14: those this is not that the customer is not it's

1179
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 14: not who the Governor's kind of discussing here. Most of

1180
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 14: these people are choosing it as a it's health conscious reasons.

1181
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 14: It's because it's lower talarie, it's because it doesn't make

1182
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 14: you feel hungover, because you can function the next day.

1183
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 14: And so, you know, it's a little you know, it's frustrating.

1184
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 14: We obviously created a lot of jobs for us and opportunities,

1185
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 14: and so I think what we're looking towards is my

1186
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 14: hope is that the governor did this in an effort

1187
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 14: to kind of get the kind of get the attention

1188
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 14: of the legislature to try to pass some laws that

1189
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 14: would would help help put more structure to this. And so,

1190
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 14: you know, I think that it's our mission right now

1191
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 14: is you know, I'm going around every LEGI everyone I

1192
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 14: can to say, hey, you know, we do believe that

1193
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 14: there should be laws in place here. I think that

1194
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 14: you know, it just twenty one and up, like we

1195
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 14: write it on our cans. I think that's a pretty

1196
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 14: pretty understandable thing. The other thing I think you can

1197
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 14: look at is we can turn to alcohol and say

1198
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 14: there's a lot of good guidelines we can just follow

1199
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 14: as far as alcohol is concerned, as it relates to taxation,

1200
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 14: as it relates to how it's regulated. And so you know,

1201
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 14: our hope is that that we can quickly redolve this.

1202
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 14: We can work with the local legislation to get something agreeable. So, uh,

1203
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 14: you know, we're we're looking at the future. There's a

1204
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 14: real this is a real, real growth opportunity for people

1205
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 14: out there that haven't had these beverages. It's happening, it's

1206
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 14: happening fast, and it's a major marketplace that's going to

1207
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 14: create a lot of jobs and a lot of opportunities,

1208
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 14: especially here in Ohio.

1209
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: You Bobby Slider, you you're an eternal optimist, you said,

1210
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more pragmatic.

1211
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 4: I tend to I like to look at the at.

1212
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: The beer glass, the fifty West glass, to being half

1213
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: full as opposed to half empty. I lets go, Okay,

1214
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: is this just a wake up call, a way to

1215
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: scare the legislature and a compliance here.

1216
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that is the case.

1217
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: But as the weeks turned into months, and is that

1218
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: ninety day deadline rapidly approaches and in business ninety days

1219
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: is you know, maybe for you, it feels like a

1220
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: long time. When you've got a brick and mortar location,

1221
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're looking at your your daily sales

1222
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: of your barrel sales of whatever you're moving out the door.

1223
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: And whether it's CBD, THC or good old fashioned beer,

1224
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: it could be water. If you're selling, you're going to

1225
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 3: make more of it. I get that it's good for jobs,

1226
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: good for the economy, and you made a sizeable personal

1227
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: investment in this whole thing not that long ago, during

1228
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: the peak, you know, during craft beer and the big boom,

1229
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: which you say is kind of on decline right now.

1230
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a one year off. I don't know if

1231
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: it's a trend or whatever. But bottom line is, you

1232
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: know you're gonna run out of it. Feels like the

1233
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: clock may run out here on this whole thing. How

1234
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: optimistic are you that the legislature is going to get

1235
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: back in a session and go we got to address

1236
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: this right now? This is this is the biggest thing

1237
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: we've got to face. So so that's what I'm That's

1238
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: what I'm doing today. I mean, that's I'm doing this morning.

1239
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 14: That's what I'll be doing for probably the next until

1240
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 14: we get this thing fixed. But yeah, I mean, my

1241
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 14: my recommendation to people that are out there is contact

1242
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 14: your local legislator. If you're somebody that drinks these products,

1243
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 14: and there's a lot of you out there. I mean,

1244
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 14: the the amount of growth we saw on this was

1245
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 14: was I mean, it was tremendous and and you know,

1246
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 14: if you want to fix this, rech out your.

1247
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 8: Local legislator, talk to them about.

1248
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 14: These products that have been removed via executive order and

1249
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 14: and tell them, tell them who you are and why

1250
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 14: you want it back. Because I believe in America. I

1251
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 14: believe in the American process.

1252
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 8: And I think that that that's.

1253
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 14: How we fix this. So let's go out there, let's

1254
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 14: rally this up, because you are right. I mean I

1255
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 14: have we hired a whole sales team over the last

1256
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 14: several months, and you know, I don't know what to

1257
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 14: tell those people to do as of Tuesday.

1258
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 8: It's hard to sell a product that you're not allowed

1259
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 8: to sell, right, So.

1260
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 14: Uh, with that being said, I'm committed to my team

1261
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 14: and and you know, they made a commitment to me,

1262
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 14: and so you know, we're going to go out there

1263
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 14: and you know, if they can't sell product, then we're going.

1264
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 8: To go We'll send them into talk to politicians.

1265
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 14: I don't know what we're gonna do with them, but

1266
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 14: we're gonna We're going to figure out a way to

1267
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 14: make sense of this because our sales, the way I

1268
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 14: like to look at it is the sales and the

1269
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 14: growth of of the of the sunflower products was it

1270
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 14: was the people of Ohio speaking. It was consumer preference, right.

1271
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 14: They weren't buying these products because somebody was forcing them to.

1272
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 14: They were buying them because this is this is a

1273
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 14: new wave that they're moving towards. And so you know,

1274
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 14: if that's the voice of ohiolands. Then I think that

1275
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 14: we should be able to get these laws straight, to

1276
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 14: be able to cater to the people that live here

1277
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 14: car wise, you know, yeah.

1278
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 7: They're going to go to Kentucky or Indiana or sure.

1279
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: Exactly it's okay.

1280
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean, look at how they screw I don't know

1281
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: how big you are in the marijuana thing, but how

1282
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: the song screwed in the first place. I mean, there

1283
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: was an overwhel the grounds flow of support ONLI and

1284
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: you could see the wave coming across America's more and

1285
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: more states adopted medical and then recreational weed. And you

1286
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen in Ohio. It passed yere

1287
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: with like sixty percent, and up until the last minute,

1288
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: the governor of the legislature fought and fought and fought

1289
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: against it and then try to create more rules to

1290
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: subvert that the will of the people. And now now

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Speaker 3: we're having government that's screaming about you know.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

1293
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: Delta a THHC products, and Delta eight is a psychoactive

1294
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: compound and the highest similar to traditional marijuana. Delta nine

1295
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: is regular marions Delta eight, So it's just a molecule

1296
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: or two all right.

1297
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 8: Just clear.

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01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 14: I mean, the governor outlawed all intoxic what he's calling

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01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 14: intoxicating hemp.

1300
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 7: So whether it's delta, we have a.

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01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 14: Delta nine product that adulta nine THHD products. And there's

1302
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 14: a lot of opinions on on on that whole that

1303
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 14: whole side of it, but just to be clear, see

1304
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 14: outlaud all of it, and that put us. That's where

1305
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 14: we're we're insta play and that's one of the things

1306
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 14: they're looking at the state level right now is what

1307
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 14: is the definition of this because that's I think that's

1308
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 14: that's one of the gray areas that may exist that

1309
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 14: people may say, Okay, well what what did.

1310
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 8: He outlaged the outloud delta did the outlog tox saying hemp?

1311
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 8: There is no definition toxing amp, so what is that?

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, because the legislature in twenty and nineteen messed

1313
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 3: that whole thing up. They just said hamp in instead

1314
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: of specifying hamp as in the fan brick versus happened.

1315
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: And that's the quote unquote.

1316
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: But my point on that, though Bobby was and hear

1317
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: me out, is the fact that this whole thing was

1318
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: created by prohibition and that people saw the benefits of

1319
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: marijuana could use it responsibly legally, saying, hey, you don't

1320
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: I feel as bad as they do after alcohol and

1321
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: you know opioids. I'm on NAP because I just had

1322
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: surgery and I'm like, I'd rather use the marijuana and

1323
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: THHC as a pain relief and as a sleep aid

1324
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: as opposed to something that's habited forming and THD is not.

1325
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: But the fact of the matter is all these you

1326
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: know ta whether it's Delta eight or Delta ten, and

1327
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: the people think, well, you know, they're chemical compounds and

1328
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: it's not the real it's because you prohibited people from

1329
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 3: getting it. And so to your point about market forces,

1330
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 3: people found a way around that and said, well, you

1331
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: know what, chemically, I can change it and it's still legal.

1332
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 3: So and you know, called a loophole is I think

1333
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: disingenuous the fact that you have a product that people want.

1334
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: You didn't make a product Bobby at fifty West and say,

1335
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: I wonder if people about it. You knew there was

1336
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 3: a demand for it, and you jumped into it. And

1337
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: that's that you realize the American dream that way they're going,

1338
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: we prohibited it, and now we're going after the thing

1339
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: that problem we created in the first place.

1340
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think the frustrating part for us is that

1341
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 14: our customers that are drinking sunflour this, they're doing it,

1342
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 14: most of them. This is a health conscious decision. This

1343
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 14: is not a this is this isn't you know, a

1344
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 14: different psychoactive that they prefer, most of them.

1345
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 7: It's a it's an alternative.

1346
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 8: Alcohol that they believe in, not believe, but just healthier.

1347
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 8: The calories are less, it.

1348
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 7: Doesn't disrupt your sleep.

1349
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 14: So so I think that's that's what we're trying to

1350
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 14: understand and try to try to, you know, spread that

1351
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 14: message because we're the largest seller.

1352
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 8: I mean, we were selling more of that.

1353
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 7: Here's what's interesting.

1354
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 14: This is a five milligram THHC beverage. Now, if you

1355
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 14: went into the store and for ten dollars you could

1356
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 14: get five milligram beverage or for ten dollars you get

1357
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 14: fifty miligram beverage. Naturally you would probably think, well, I

1358
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 14: would take the fifty because I get more of it.

1359
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 14: Customers are buying the lower milligram beverage because they're looking

1360
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 14: for the healthy alternative. It's we're the better miss of society, right,

1361
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 14: so for the band to be in place because of

1362
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 14: safety purposes, Uh, it seems a little you know, that's

1363
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 14: the part that's a little difficult for me to meet,

1364
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 14: it for me to grasp, and I feel bad for

1365
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 14: you know, they talked about the toxicology reports and things

1366
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 14: like that, and I'm sure there's validity to those, but

1367
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 14: you know, I would I would argue that if you

1368
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 14: look at the toxicology reports as it related to alcohol

1369
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 14: with the same same group, it would be exponentially greater question.

1370
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Speaker 7: And so if we were really trying to.

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 14: Save the children here, like, are we talking about prohibition

1372
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Speaker 14: on alcohol? Because that I think that would stir ale

1373
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 14: a whole different, whole difference.

1374
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Speaker 1: We have.

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Speaker 3: We have Bobby Slattery from fifty US, We have a

1376
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 3: litany and there's a long list of kids who have

1377
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: done I mean, vaping is a huge thing. And I

1378
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 3: mentioned that I had Jason Friedman on the Ohio CBD Guy.

1379
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: They's all vay products too. And if you get a

1380
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 3: container of nicotine liquid nicotine it can kill you through

1381
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: through either usclar your skin, or whether you drink it

1382
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: or whatever. I mean, enough nicotine will kill a person.

1383
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: I know, we know enough alcohol kill a person, right,

1384
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: You can't kill a person with hemp and a THHD.

1385
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: Now does anyone want their kid quote unquote oding or

1386
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 3: taking a hump related product or CBD prey or THHD. No,

1387
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: of course not, because it's it's frightening for the kid

1388
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: to strike to be you as a parent, and if

1389
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 3: it falls into kids hands, then that that is a

1390
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: huge problem. But I mean, you just open fifty West

1391
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: in Deerfield Township and I've been there a couple of times.

1392
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: It's phenomenal volleyball and the whole vibe is great, and

1393
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 3: I look at that and go, that's awesome. People are

1394
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: out there and enjoying themselves. I see people drinking sunflower,

1395
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: which is the beverage you're talking about here. How many

1396
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: kids a day do you serve at fifty West and

1397
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: feed them a sunflower and THG?

1398
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: How often does that happen?

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Speaker 8: No?

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01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, never, kids don't.

1401
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 14: I mean the kids come there for the milkshakes and

1402
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 14: the chicken fingers and the cheapersion, right, and to be

1403
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 14: the sand I think that's what we saw was especially

1404
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 14: in the family friendly space and people that are out

1405
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 14: there listening.

1406
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 8: If you've got kids and they play sports.

1407
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 14: You've been there on the Sunday after the soccer game

1408
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 14: where the soccer team has to get together and you're like,

1409
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 14: I feel like I got to be social, but I

1410
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 14: really don't feel like drinking because I got to go

1411
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 14: to work in the morning. And that's where we were

1412
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 14: seeing these sunflower beverages really take off. Was like it

1413
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 14: was the soccer team showing up and the moms being like,

1414
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 14: you know what, I don't feel like drinking, but I got.

1415
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 8: To do something social, so I'll have one of these.

1416
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 14: So they were really falling somewhere in between what we

1417
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 14: call an na beverage and alcohol. This was sort of

1418
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,959
Speaker 14: that in between medium, and it was awesome to see.

1419
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 14: I mean, it's been awesome and I think there's a

1420
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 14: real marketplace for that to continue. So I think the

1421
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 14: goal here, though, is in one of the things that

1422
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 14: you know, it is right now there's no age regulation

1423
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 14: on this, and I think that that's something that we

1424
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 14: need to put into effect. Right So my goal, being

1425
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 14: an optimist is let's reach out to the legislators. This

1426
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 14: is an extreme action taken by our governor, right like

1427
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 14: he took an extreme measure. I'm hoping that our legislators

1428
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 14: are going to take extreme measures to go make better

1429
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 14: loss because one of the things that he put in

1430
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 14: there was if we can get this thing passed through

1431
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 14: and get some sort of bill and understanding of reasonable

1432
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 14: laws in place, well then we can go back to

1433
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 14: selling these things again. And so I can sit here

1434
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 14: and I can cry and say this isn't fair. We

1435
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 14: invested money and there's jobs at stake and all that stuff,

1436
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 14: or I can sit here and fight and say, hey,

1437
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 14: we're going to make America better and we're going to

1438
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 14: find a way to put laws in place that makes

1439
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 14: sense for Ohio so we can get to the place

1440
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 14: where we.

1441
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 8: Want to be.

1442
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 14: And that's that's what my efforts are focused on right now.

1443
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 14: And you know I would I would rally people that

1444
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 14: are out there, reach out to your legislator, because that's

1445
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 14: that's how this thing's going to change.

1446
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, here and cry, we're cry on.

1447
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 7: The sidelines and say this isn't.

1448
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 5: Fair, it's illegal.

1449
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 7: Why did you do this to me.

1450
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 14: It's like, hey, let's go change the laws, let's go

1451
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 14: make o Hio a better place, and let's get this

1452
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 14: in a spot where we want it to be.

1453
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: Look, there are people out there. They're bad operators, always

1454
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: gonna be bad. There's gonna be people who are buying

1455
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 3: the alcohol for underage kids, right, I mean that's happening

1456
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 3: if we've seen that happen. But in this case, Anna,

1457
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: you got some guy onans a gas station or carry

1458
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: out whatever selling tht laced sour Patch kids. And it

1459
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 3: looks like sour Patch kids is some fifteen year old

1460
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: or a product that's Delta eight tilta ten product that's

1461
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: going to get them high. And there's a loophole there. Okay,

1462
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: that's a bad operator, mind book. You go after that person,

1463
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 3: you shut them down, You make an example of dis

1464
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 3: wade others from over sheer greed from doing the same thing.

1465
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about with fifty West and uh

1466
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,440
Speaker 3: drink that's intended for adults here, but yet we're casting

1467
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 3: everyone to the same lot.

1468
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's it's the unfortunate circumstance that we're caught in

1469
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 14: right now. But you know, like like I said, this

1470
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 14: is just part of the fifty West story. Like we're

1471
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 14: going to go out there and we're going to help

1472
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 14: change the law and we're going to make it better

1473
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 14: so that the you know, on the positive, it's going

1474
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 14: to be good for our sales when we get to fix.

1475
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 14: On the positive, it's going to be good that we're

1476
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 14: going to eliminate the bad operators. But the only way

1477
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 14: to changes is through the legislators. And they really need to,

1478
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 14: like this is time where they need to step up

1479
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 14: and they need to help help small businesses like us,

1480
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 14: help the consumers out there from you know, product products

1481
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 14: that potentially, you know, are bad operators. I think I

1482
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 14: think it's a critical time in Ohio. And you know,

1483
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 14: the governor took a very bold it made a very

1484
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 14: bolde on this. Whether you agree with it, disagree with it, whatever,

1485
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 14: you know, all I can focus on is how do

1486
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 14: I make it? You know, the consumers are already smoke spoken.

1487
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 14: Just look at our sales. Look at what's happening in

1488
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 14: the marketplace. Thank you, by the way, to everyone out

1489
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 14: out there that bought bought this, bought our products.

1490
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 8: The Sunflower thing. It was.

1491
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 14: It was amazing to watch and it's going to continue

1492
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 14: to be. So let's go out there and fight figure

1493
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 14: out how to get.

1494
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 8: This thing fixed. Like that's that's where mine is.

1495
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: I got before I let you go to put this

1496
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 3: in perspective, because a band goes an effect in ninety

1497
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to get to ninety two.

1498
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: I think maybe the legislature wakes up and does something

1499
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: here finally. But at the same time, like if you're saying, okay,

1500
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 3: we're kind of peak craft beer, like people aren't drinking

1501
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: as much alcohol related products. They're moving to the CBD

1502
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 3: and the TC related products and all that stuff, and

1503
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: it's a growing market share for you.

1504
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 4: The question would be, then can you survive without this?

1505
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 14: This is going to affect us. I mean, like I mean,

1506
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 14: I'm going to survive no matter what happened. We made

1507
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 14: it through COVID, we made it through. This is part

1508
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 14: of This is one of the best parts about being

1509
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 14: an entrepreneur. And if you want to be an entrepreneur

1510
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 14: out there back part, our days.

1511
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 7: Are well they are days like today.

1512
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 8: This is when it's fun.

1513
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 14: The worst part about work is showing up and being like,

1514
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 14: all right, well we're just you know, we're gonna open

1515
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 14: the doors and we're going.

1516
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 8: To do this.

1517
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 14: This This is when it's fun. So like, yes, we're

1518
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 14: gonna survive it. Yes we're going to keep employing people. Yes,

1519
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 14: this is challenging, but like this is this is what

1520
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 14: makes my job fun and I'm excited about it.

1521
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: So how long does it take for you to produce

1522
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: a barrel of sunflower or our can of sunflow? Because okay,

1523
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: that's ninety days. But you know, there's it's not like

1524
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: you can wake up and go, Okay, I'm gonna make

1525
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: five hundred barrels of this stuff. How do you you

1526
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: know there's I mean, I mean.

1527
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 8: You want to talk about the reality of the situation

1528
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 8: we're looking at. This is a product that took off.

1529
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 8: So when a.

1530
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 14: Product takes off, we gotta we gotta, we got to

1531
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 14: go fruit. We get well, no, it's easy to say

1532
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 14: crank it out, but let's talk about you know, our

1533
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 14: fruit's coming out of one part of the country and

1534
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 14: our cans are coming out of another part of the country.

1535
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 14: So we we saw a massive demand and we're and

1536
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 14: now all of a sudden, we can't keep up with it.

1537
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 8: So we order all of this product. I mean, we've

1538
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 8: been this is.

1539
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 14: Months of work that now we have all these supplies.

1540
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 14: That's that's locked and you know I'm allowed to use it, right,

1541
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 14: So that's the that's the reality of the business. And

1542
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 14: and like I said before, I mean I can sit

1543
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 14: here and cry about it, say it's not fair, but

1544
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 14: or you just got to go figure out how to

1545
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 14: fight and make it work.

1546
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 4: Well, let's try and get some Let's try and get

1547
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 4: this fixed.

1548
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 8: Tom, Yeah, call your.

1549
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 14: Legislators, tell them, like if you want, if you want

1550
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 14: these products because you love drinking them, and and you're

1551
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 14: somebody that found some flower.

1552
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,839
Speaker 8: And and you know, helped grow that, call your legislator.

1553
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 14: If you're somebody that believes in you know, small business

1554
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 14: in America and you like my story, call them, you know,

1555
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 14: like help me out here. It's uh, it's this is fun.

1556
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 14: We're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna figure it out.

1557
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 8: I hope.

1558
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 3: So Hey, man, I appreciate calling in and jumping on

1559
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: the show this morning, Bobby and listen, and I thank

1560
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 3: you for that.

1561
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 14: I well, I appreciate you one coming out to our

1562
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 14: Mason location and saying the nice things about it and

1563
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 14: too talking about in the radio. I was coming in

1564
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 14: this morning. It was it's very frustrating. I tell you

1565
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 14: to sit there and have somebody keep throwing your name

1566
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 14: out there.

1567
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 7: I'm like, I got something to say. I got something.

1568
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 4: Hey, well, I'm glad we you know.

1569
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 3: But it's on the same point though, Like it's not

1570
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: like you know, we're in the odds of this, we're

1571
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 3: the same. We're rolling together here because this is that

1572
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 3: defends every sensibility I have. That that's someone like yourself

1573
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 3: and many others for that matter, not in brewing, or

1574
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: who may be a CBD store owner whatever, or adults

1575
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 3: who simply want to enjoy something in the comfort of

1576
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: their own home or at the.

1577
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 4: Locations you talk about a fifty west uh.

1578
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 3: And to have a band come down in ninety days

1579
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: because it's about the children is offensive to everything I'm about.

1580
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 8: So not ninety days. It came down. It came down

1581
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 8: to five days.

1582
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: Well five days, Yeah, I guess I should say, all right, right,

1583
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a band for ninety Yeah.

1584
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 4: I got it. It's all right, so much, Bobby appreciate it.

1585
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 4: Good luck man, Yeah, thank you, everybody. Take care. There

1586
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 4: you go, Bobby Slattery. Check it on the show this morning.

1587
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look at the demand and you're telling like, wait, man,

1588
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 3: I can't have this anymore, No, you can't have this anymore.

1589
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 4: Why, Well, it's politics.

1590
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: Away, I'm running light I gotta get to new seven

1591
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: hundred wwant to.

1592
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 4: Scott clo here seven hundred WLW. Will there finally be peace?

1593
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,440
Speaker 4: Peace in our lifetime.

1594
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: There's a potential to end the two year war between

1595
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: Israel Hamas Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he's going to

1596
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: convene the Israeli government. He's doing that today as we

1597
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 3: speak to ratify the Seasfire agreement, and President Trump may

1598
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 3: travel to Egypt as soon as this weekend, and that's

1599
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 3: where the talks are being held.

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01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 4: To put in perspective.

1601
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 3: As doctor Mark Nziolaco, he's a UTI political scientist, also

1602
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 3: a Middle Eastern expert, former director International Studies Program, and

1603
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 3: founder of d's Human Rights Studies program.

1604
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 4: Mark, how you been?

1605
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 7: I'm fine?

1606
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 11: How are you?

1607
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 4: I'm fine.

1608
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: I think peace in the world is a good thing.

1609
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 3: I think when you see the people being ravaged, not

1610
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: only from what happened two years ago in twenty twenty three,

1611
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: to normal Israelis living their lives, to the bombing and

1612
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: suessant bombing of those in Gosam, any of those people

1613
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 3: not really other than the fact that they're chatteled in

1614
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 3: this whole mixed up conflict illustrates the absurdity and just

1615
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: how cruel we are to other human beings, and maybe

1616
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 3: we'll finally get peace, peace at last. And the question

1617
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 3: is will that piece last? Because I'm also well, I

1618
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: think the glass may be half full here. I think

1619
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: that there's some problems. We'll get into that. So let's

1620
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 3: talk about the deal real quick. Let me outline it

1621
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: in case you're not following this or just hearing it

1622
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 3: for the first time. Hamas has agreed to release all

1623
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: their remrining hostages Israel. We will draw their withdraw their

1624
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 3: forces back to what they call the agreed upon yellow line.

1625
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: And this is just the first phase of the peace agreement.

1626
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: So it's going to be the hostages and then Palestinian

1627
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: prisoners get released, and then once that's finalized and within

1628
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: forty eight hours, all this is going to end. But

1629
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 3: there are some bombs going off today as a matter

1630
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 3: of fact. So first and foremost is this is phase one,

1631
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: and that seems to be the easy phase Phase two

1632
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 3: and beyond that's probably the more difficult.

1633
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 4: Can you lay that out?

1634
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 10: Oh well, I mean, there's the twenty point plan. It

1635
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 10: was agreed to a week or so ago, very elaborate,

1636
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 10: very very elaborate, very detailed, and the phase where now

1637
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 10: is really just what or too wide of you know,

1638
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 10: the key is really getting Hamas to lay down its

1639
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 10: weapons and uh for Hamas to have no future uh

1640
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 10: in any Palestinian administration that runs that that land. And

1641
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 10: that's that's a long that's a long stretch. That's that's

1642
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 10: when you've laid the foundations for genuine peace. The smoke

1643
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 10: hasn't cleared yet from a two year and very as

1644
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 10: you say, very very bloody, very very violent war, I

1645
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 10: meant destruction on almost unimaginable levels. So I mean just

1646
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 10: psychologically and emotionally. How do people who are already each

1647
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 10: other's throats, how do they recover from this? How do

1648
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 10: they move forward?

1649
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 8: Uh?

1650
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 10: You know, gritter things maybe haven't been done, but maybe

1651
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 10: the violence was precisely so bad that everyone finally wakes

1652
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 10: up and realizes that we have to find a means

1653
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 10: to uh to coexist and live together. So I'll hope

1654
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 10: that's the goal.

1655
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hope so too. You just wonder how long

1656
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 3: it's going to last. And I kind of mentioned that

1657
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,919
Speaker 3: in my preamble there as you know, you're the professor

1658
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: in this conversation. You're the student of this more than

1659
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: I am. I can't count how many deals we've had

1660
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 3: in the past when it comes to different accords and

1661
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: the like, and that's not just Hummas, but generally peace

1662
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,879
Speaker 3: between Palestine in Israel itself. I mean, the also Accords

1663
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 3: back in the nineties, you had Camp David in two thousand,

1664
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 3: You've had summits and roadmaps for peace, and the Annapolis

1665
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: Conference and Trump's peace plan from five years ago, and

1666
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: none of them went anywhere. Why is this the one?

1667
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, if those couldn't take

1668
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 10: hold in a much more favorable environment a peace than now, because,

1669
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 10: as I said a moment ago, the destruction, level of

1670
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 10: destruction is so great it's not even mistrust anymore. It's deep,

1671
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 10: deep hatd hatred. So one could only hope that the

1672
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 10: violence was so immense chock everybody into into a mind

1673
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 10: a mindset for a peace. But no, at this stage,

1674
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 10: we're looking what hostage you're coming back? I mean, it's

1675
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 10: really intelligence is assessin that Hamas may even be able

1676
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 10: to return all the dead hostages because obviously because the yeah,

1677
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 10: so will we be released, which prisoners will be released

1678
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 10: what will stay? You know. Still, the big piece is

1679
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:35,879
Speaker 10: does Hamas retain any any power now both within Gaza,

1680
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 10: among Palestinians and certainly vis A vis uh is real

1681
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 10: who's not going to stop huntings, you know, Israeli? So

1682
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 10: you're not going to stop hunting Hamas because they meet it.

1683
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 10: They they reached an agreement sharma shake Egypt. So I

1684
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 10: mean the roots for violence are so deep that Yeah.

1685
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 10: So it's work as you can, as the UN says,

1686
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 10: get the houses is out and get the aid in. Uh,

1687
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 10: but be realistic about uh, be realistic about the prospects

1688
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 10: for a long, long term piece.

1689
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1690
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't imagine Hamas is going to go

1691
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: away quiet, That's the thing is. And there's a couple

1692
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: of points in here too, is Hamas is going to

1693
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 3: lay down their arms and simply guy, I just don't

1694
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: see this as kind of like the American Revolutionary War

1695
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 3: that all these combatants lay down their arms and go

1696
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 3: back to beting gentlemen farmers.

1697
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, yes, I don't see that at all.

1698
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 8: Uh.

1699
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 10: You know, I mean, you know there was back in

1700
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 10: the day, but Oswell Accords, when you know, elements at

1701
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 10: PLO fought that were coming and they had a terrorist

1702
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 10: background and they made a transition from that. But this

1703
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 10: Hamas is different like his Bulla, there's a there's a

1704
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 10: different beast. Here's the point though, Gaza is is reubble

1705
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 10: and it really needs to be rebuilt UH and innicial

1706
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 10: communities on this before port and billions and billions of dollars. Now,

1707
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 10: what happened before was Hamas hijack that process hijacked. They

1708
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 10: were able to divert those pieces to missiles and tunnels

1709
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 10: and bombs and uniforms, all those all the belligerency material

1710
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 10: for war. So in the administration of this piece, if

1711
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 10: we move forward on this twenty point plant, there's the

1712
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 10: opportunity and there's really the imperative that the global community

1713
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 10: monitor their expendors, really control that process so that by

1714
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,879
Speaker 10: by by administering Gaza UH really marginalizing.

1715
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 8: Hamas there so.

1716
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 10: Hamas will be could be at war UH.

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01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 8: With the self.

1718
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 10: Tell us to the ends up war with themselves. If

1719
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 10: Hamas is to retain is going to try to retain

1720
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 10: some influence.

1721
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: And that's the billion dollar question, man, how do you

1722
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: prevent that from happening? Because two things off the top

1723
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: of my head, mark Ensilaka would be human nature, because

1724
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: you know the nature of having control as power and

1725
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: powers that come out and fear as part of that

1726
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 3: is the current of power. And so hey, how many

1727
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 3: regimes have we seen in the history of the world

1728
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: where someone's taken over and organizations taken over and it's

1729
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: become a total power grab. And again it's the has

1730
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 3: and the have nots. We take everything, we arm up,

1731
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 3: we scare the hell out of the people, and we

1732
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: keep them in line, whether it's this or poll pot

1733
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: or anybody else. And then the other thing is just

1734
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 3: out and out graft. Yeah, okay, we're gonna have what

1735
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: the un oversee this? Yeah, good luck with that.

1736
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 8: Huh. Yeah.

1737
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 10: You know, there's an old expression in diplomacy that the

1738
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 10: devil lives in the details. It's easy to sort of reach.

1739
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 10: It's not easy, but it's possible to reach broad twenty

1740
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 10: point goals and have some sort of pacific vision of

1741
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 10: the future. But it's in the implement patient as you say,

1742
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 10: how many tons of food are.

1743
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 8: Going to go in per day?

1744
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 10: Really, how are we going to reconstruct the destroyed sanitation systems?

1745
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 10: I mean, really, there is an opportunity out for God

1746
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 10: as it's for pales Indians in the new administration to build,

1747
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 10: not just rebuild guys, but build a new society there.

1748
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 10: And they're going to have to do it because it's

1749
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 10: literally rubble and it's literally great loss of life, great disruption.

1750
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 10: But there's going to be a you know, there's going

1751
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 10: to be an international relief effort. I hope we're part

1752
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 10: of that and we don't have to take it over

1753
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 10: would be the number one contributed bit.

1754
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 8: We'll be involved clearly.

1755
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 10: The twenty Point Plan, as I understand it, sees a

1756
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,879
Speaker 10: key role for a peace commission chaired by the President

1757
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 10: of the United States. So we're engaged. We're engaged right, clearly,

1758
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 10: But it's in the details. Let's get it right. Let's

1759
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 10: do it right.

1760
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: But the problem, and the other part of the problem

1761
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: to us who've seen in Afghanistan and backwards, is that

1762
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 3: we pay attention. Because we're Americans, We've got the attention

1763
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 3: span of a gnat, and we'll pay attention to what's happening.

1764
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 3: Once everything signed and the press opportunities over, we'll move

1765
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 3: on to the next shiny object, uh, and then things

1766
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 3: will fall apart in the Middle East and we'll wonder

1767
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: what happened. Is that a possibility?

1768
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, I mean certainly one would in his in

1769
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 10: the Maga world. Is this is a step of involvement

1770
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 10: in other countries wars that exactly what he promised to avoid.

1771
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 10: I mean, how how will his his loyalists, his most

1772
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 10: loyal supporters, how do they see? Uh this Nobel Price

1773
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 10: comes out tomorrow, It's gonna be fascinating, uhly fascinating.

1774
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: That's why I want to get it done right now,

1775
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 3: because he wants he wants he wants a Nobel prize.

1776
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 10: My my guess is that the votes are at the end.

1777
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 12: Uh.

1778
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 8: It would be interesting though.

1779
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, the name should maybe bows around at

1780
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 10: Jared Kushner. I mean, he's been working behind the scenes

1781
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 10: for a long time. I'm not I'm not I'm not

1782
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 10: nominating him by any means, but uh, there are there

1783
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 10: is a there was a there has been a great

1784
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 10: deal of behind the scenes action, uh in the Arab world,

1785
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 10: and it's gonna be fascinating to see with the passage

1786
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 10: of time what we learned about that process. History books

1787
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 10: are going to be fascinating with those period time.

1788
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doctor Mark Nsilako at the University of Dating

1789
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 3: political science professor there talking about maybe finally peace in

1790
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: the least between Israel and Hamas and regime change there

1791
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 3: and stopping the bombing, and it could happen relatively soon.

1792
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: The Prime Minister of Israel NET and Yahoo is convening

1793
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: the Israeli government today to vote on this to ratify

1794
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: the ceasefire agreement. The other side, any, I don't, We

1795
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 3: don't want to see a couple of bitter old men here.

1796
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 3: But you know we've seen this movie before, not just

1797
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: in our lifetime, into previous lifetimes. And you are a

1798
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 3: student of history, your political science professor, and history is

1799
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 3: the best indicator future behavior. And so if we're a

1800
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: little jaded and pessimistic about this, it's for good reason.

1801
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that this piece won't last. And hell,

1802
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: even if the piece lasts for six months, a year,

1803
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: two years, ten years, whatever, it is that that's better

1804
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 3: than these two sides blowing each other up, taking hostages, killing,

1805
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 3: raping women, holding people hostage, and the other side bombing

1806
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,440
Speaker 3: the hell out of civilians.

1807
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's you just laid out of panorama. That's really frightening.

1808
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I mean it's long term term. One thing,

1809
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 10: you would be always sure of the Middle East that

1810
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 10: there's something will flare up. But at the same time,

1811
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 10: and I don't want to be too optimistic about things,

1812
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 10: but the strategically the Middle East has changed a great deal.

1813
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 10: I mean because of the violence. I mean, obviously.

1814
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 8: Hamas has been.

1815
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 10: Close to being destroyed, but you know his boiler and

1816
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 10: the attack on Iran, with even the United States getting

1817
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 10: involved attacking the nuclear sites. I mean, so you hit

1818
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 10: this arc of countries that were hostile to Israel's an

1819
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 10: Israel sort of you know, took the fight to them,

1820
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 10: and that is weakened these organizations regionally and strategically. Now

1821
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 10: I'm not simply saying, you know, we're a wonderful new world,

1822
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 10: you know, post war World War two, uh uh, you

1823
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 10: know world. But yeah, there's been changes in the strategic environment,

1824
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 10: and maybe that could be a basis. I mean, you

1825
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 10: look at these golf states, Goha and all these emirates,

1826
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 10: all these they're fabulously wealthy. They're fabulously wealthy societies. And

1827
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 10: although there's an attachment of Palesiti and cause that I

1828
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 10: could rather than Protrucian. I mean, there's a lot of

1829
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 10: people sort of want to get out into their lives,

1830
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 10: and they'd probably rather talk to Jared Kushner about real

1831
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 10: you know, you know, Mediterranean seafront real estate. Then they'll

1832
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 10: want to run around in a singing lo roc bar

1833
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 10: uh and and blowing things up, so there could be

1834
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 10: really environment. I always argue that when I wrote my

1835
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 10: first book about violence in the Middle East complex September

1836
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 10: September eleventh, it said looking at a different war, uh,

1837
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 10: you know against Alcada in Afghanistan. I simply said, you

1838
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 10: know this wills will this will end when mothers tell

1839
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 10: their children suicide in the act of blowing someone up

1840
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 10: is not you know, jihad in a way of Allah.

1841
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 10: You know when when you dead, attitude changes, and one

1842
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 10: could probably say he is ready sit side too. Within

1843
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 10: the settler movement, the extreme sort of Zionist movements that

1844
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 10: are that have taken the vigilante law in their own hand.

1845
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 10: There's deep problems in these societies that speak against a

1846
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 10: long lasting peace. But one can build on what.

1847
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 8: Was in front of us right now.

1848
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 10: Right now, there's a lot of rebuilding, of a lot

1849
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 10: of destruction, and and make the difficult initial steps in

1850
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 10: these piece pass, make these count.

1851
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you kind of hit on it there.

1852
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 3: And the big question then to summarize what you're saying

1853
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 3: on Silaca, is this only works if both sides wanted

1854
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 3: to work.

1855
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1856
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 10: I remember at ended a chapter in my book once

1857
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 10: where one of the leaders back in the day said,

1858
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 10: we don't want peace. Peace would end all our hopes.

1859
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 10: I mean, if that's the mentality you have, yeah, you've

1860
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 10: got that, You've got the permanent roots for for for

1861
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 10: future violence. But right now, clearly in the house to

1862
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 10: the inside is exhausted. I mean, it's really difficult to

1863
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 10: assess this because journalists have they not had access to

1864
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 10: little many have lost their lives in this conflict reporting

1865
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 10: from Gaza. But you know, one beginning to hear uh

1866
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 10: reports or inklings that Pelsis have turned on Hamas and

1867
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 10: they're saying, you know, yes, there's way these did this

1868
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 10: great distraction to us. But you provoke them, you know,

1869
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 10: you poked the bear, uh.

1870
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 7: And so you know Hamas Hamas.

1871
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 10: Militants will walk around with scars, greens, cigars are on

1872
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 10: the head and and and the goose step. But in

1873
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 10: point of fact, there is a serious, very serious defeat

1874
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 10: for them militarily and politically.

1875
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 3: And and all the only multi phaser the point program.

1876
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: We're just in the first couple right now. This is

1877
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 3: only phase one. So we're a long way away from

1878
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: lasting peace at this point, even the Seas far because

1879
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: bombs are going off this morning as a matter of fact.

1880
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: There as we moved to phase two in beyond, it

1881
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 3: was France, I believe, the first loft of the notion

1882
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 3: that Palestinian statehood should be a thing, and some other

1883
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 3: countries signed on to that and absolutely upset those of

1884
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 3: us in the West. How dare you do this? They

1885
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 3: come in two years ago and look what they did,

1886
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 3: and now you want to give them statehood and forget

1887
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 3: everything else. But it sounds like part of this plan

1888
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: is eventually that that's exactly what's going to happen. I mean,

1889
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 3: if Israel is pulling back to this yellow line, then

1890
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 3: I'll have a final determination where that is. That would

1891
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 3: then mean that some degree of Palestinian state right.

1892
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I thought, I thought France and Great

1893
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 10: Britain announcing this a few weeks ago was really sort

1894
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 10: of and forgive me for putting in such plut terms,

1895
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 10: sort of you know, media just some media start there

1896
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 10: is no Palestinian state. I mean, when you say to me,

1897
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 10: show me your state, the first thing I want to

1898
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 10: know is where are the boundaries? So and then who's

1899
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 10: your leadership Hamas? I mean, it's nothing was going to

1900
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 10: come on this nonetheless, you know, and so I understand

1901
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 10: President Trump sort of trying to push back in our

1902
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 10: allies this tag back you were rewarding. You said exactly what, Scott,

1903
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 10: You're rewarding Hamas by giving them this prize. But no,

1904
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 10: the fact, the long term fact is there's going to

1905
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 10: have to be two states. So at some point you're

1906
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 10: going to so in the process of building, you know,

1907
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 10: when you when you really have to just make sanitation

1908
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 10: systems and water and deliver food and meta. You know,

1909
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 10: just the rudiments of running and government really, you know,

1910
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 10: particularly recovering one right, you can build trust, you can

1911
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 10: see that people can work together, and and that would

1912
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 10: has to be to go in building and rebuilding. I

1913
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 10: think we really have to lay the foundations build out

1914
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 10: for a long term, long term priest. But the global community,

1915
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 10: and that means the United States. What President Trump is

1916
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 10: the chairman of this this Peace Commission order it is

1917
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 10: called right, you said this right, the global communities have

1918
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 10: to stay engaged in that.

1919
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1920
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, and that means the United States too, Yeah, turn.

1921
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: Our back on it.

1922
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 3: We turn our back on It's Afghanistan, it's Vietnam, it's

1923
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 3: all those things. And we just, you know, because the

1924
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: public we lose interest in and why are we supporting them?

1925
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 3: Why are we doing this? And it's it's going to

1926
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: be I think probably more low key than that. It's

1927
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 3: not like we have troops on the ground there, but

1928
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Speaker 3: in that regardless of this is something we're gonna have

1929
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: to stay on top of for a long time if

1930
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 3: you want it to work. All right, I gotta get going,

1931
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Speaker 3: Doctor Mark Anziolaco, ud I wass appreciate the time in

1932
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Speaker 3: the in the good stuff. I feel like I'm sitting

1933
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 3: in one of your classes here. Thanks again for the time.

1934
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1935
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

1936
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Speaker 3: Have a good one. Uh yeah, whether it lasts or not,

1937
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 3: we're going to find out. Although history is certainly not

1938
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: on their side. But man, you look at the devastation,

1939
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 3: the destruction, the human casualty is the toll, it's seventy

1940
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 3: thousand plus people. I mean, that's a lot of people dying.

1941
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 3: And now it's over and hopefully you can go back

1942
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 3: to being that gentleman farmer. I don't know if a

1943
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: mos is gonna lay their arms down. I don't know

1944
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 3: if that's the thing, because there's always gonna be that streak.

1945
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 3: As soon as something goes sideways, they're gonna wind up

1946
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 3: game in more power.

1947
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 4: It's just the nature of the beast.

1948
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Speaker 3: Anyway, Quick time out News on the way Sloany on

1949
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW.

1950
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 11: The bells. Do you hear the bells?

1951
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 4: It could only mean one thing.

1952
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: It's Real estate time with Michelle Slow, Remax time agent

1953
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: and proud proprietor of Sloan sells Homes dot com. Heed

1954
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 1: her words or face her wrath on seven hundred WLW.

1955
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 3: Well, the government shutdown. You don't have many numbers to

1956
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 3: go on, and that'll be dwindling as things progress here.

1957
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 3: But there's just a gut feeling the economy isn't good.

1958
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: Not that it's not doing fine, it's just, you know,

1959
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 3: slowly dropping a little bit by a little bit. Unemployment

1960
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 3: remains relatively low, but housing is a big indicator. And

1961
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 3: that's where my wife Michelle comes in and looking at

1962
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 3: some of these numbers, it could be better, right, it

1963
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 3: could be better.

1964
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 15: The numbers that we have, we have a lot of

1965
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 15: new surveys coming out. They're not generated by the government necessarily,

1966
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 15: but a staggering ninety three percent of Americans believe housing

1967
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 15: costs are unreasonable.

1968
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 4: Unreasonable, six out of ten.

1969
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, people, that's a lot.

1970
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 15: And only three percent of the respondent said that housing

1971
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 15: costs were actually reasonable. Now, if you're looking at your

1972
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:41,759
Speaker 15: at anything, if you're taking a survey, would you actually say, ah, yeah, it's.

1973
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 11: Pretty good, The things are good, things are pretty good.

1974
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 3: Although there's another one that I saw as well, maybe

1975
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 3: you saw it too. I don't know who'd authored the study,

1976
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 3: so it's hard to say because you don't know. Could

1977
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 3: be a sample size of four people. But seven out

1978
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 3: of ten Americans young Americans believe that owning a home

1979
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 3: is a pipe dream.

1980
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 4: It will never happen.

1981
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, sixty seven percent. I saw that as well.

1982
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:11,520
Speaker 15: Sixty seven percent of Americans believe that home ownership is impossible. Impossible.

1983
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 15: Now that's pretty negative, pretty scary. It's pretty scary. I

1984
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 15: don't think it's impossible. But as you can see these

1985
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 15: two different things, you know, Americans are actually they're blaming

1986
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 15: everyone and you know, they feel like there's the world

1987
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 15: is against them, and the way things are it does

1988
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 15: make it difficult. I'm not going to lie. You know,

1989
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 15: everybody says we should I rent? Should I buy? You

1990
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 15: know what's the best way?

1991
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 11: Now?

1992
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 15: As a real estate agent, I'm you're going to think

1993
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 15: that I'm always going to tell you to buy, but

1994
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 15: I'm not going to tell you to buy if you're

1995
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 15: not ready, and you're going to get yourself in over

1996
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 15: your head, so you don't want.

1997
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 11: To do that.

1998
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,440
Speaker 15: So sixty seven percent of Americans believe that home ownership

1999
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 15: is impossible. That's just crazy historic lows. And so we're

2000
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 15: we're trying to figure out how in the world can

2001
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 15: especially younger people. If you're less less than thirty half

2002
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 15: of our age, right and you don't have a home yet,

2003
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 15: how in the world do you do well?

2004
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: If you're saddled with student debt and you if you're

2005
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 3: someone who has to work a couple of jobs, a

2006
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 3: couple of multiple jobs. Health insurance is going to be

2007
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 3: a big issue as well. We're seeing the rates of

2008
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 3: health insurance go up and people getting dropped left and right.

2009
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 3: Don't know what's going to happen with Affordable Care Act.

2010
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 3: But I'm just talking about private insurance in that regard.

2011
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 3: That's a bad situation. We've seen generation after generation keeps

2012
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 3: delaying having children, if at all, And now we have

2013
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 3: people going, you know, I'll just have a dog. I'm fine,

2014
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 3: and not have a child, or maybe not even that.

2015
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 3: And so home ownership is not on the table for

2016
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 3: someone who can't afford a new car or a car

2017
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 3: in general, and is keeping their nose above water. And

2018
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: that's too any Americans, certainly, not all Americans, but it's

2019
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 3: it's the number itself is too big, and I guess

2020
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: that's why. And sadly at a young age. You know,

2021
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 3: you tend to be more optimistic when you're younger, but

2022
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 3: younger people today tend to be.

2023
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 4: More pessimistic, okay.

2024
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 3: And that has to do with social media, I think,

2025
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 3: and a lot of other factors as well, and some

2026
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 3: of the thoughts.

2027
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 15: As you know, people will make assumptions just based on

2028
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 15: their little world around themselves. Right, half of Americans are

2029
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 15: actually blaming investors for unreasonable housing costs because the thought

2030
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 15: is that investors are buying up all of the available properties,

2031
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 15: and actually that's not true, and it's hard to. You know,

2032
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 15: people believe what they believe, but it's it's not always true.

2033
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 15: It's it's very popular to blame investors, but the housing

2034
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 15: economics is more still that same old adage of supply

2035
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 15: and the driving cost is that we have a shortage

2036
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 15: of actual homes that are available to purchase, and investors

2037
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 15: only accounted for thirteen percent of home purchases in twenty

2038
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 15: twenty four. Thirteen percent. That's not very many. And most

2039
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 15: of those home purchases by investors were from mom and

2040
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 15: pop investors.

2041
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 11: So maybe it is.

2042
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 15: Mom and dad or grandma and grandpa who are helping

2043
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 15: the younger generation purchase their first home. And that's still

2044
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 15: considered an investment if you're not living in the property.

2045
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 15: So investors definitely own their share of housing stock, there's

2046
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 15: no question about it. But as far as that goes,

2047
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 15: they don't own it all. And investors are not the

2048
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 15: bad guy. You're always looking for a bad guy.

2049
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 3: Well they are when okay, here are these odd of

2050
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 3: state companies come in by a whole bunch of houses

2051
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 3: up and pay fairly well for them. But the problem,

2052
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 3: of course is the maintenance and the upkeep on them.

2053
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: And when you're not doing that when you're not doing

2054
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 3: your due diligence and making sure that you know the

2055
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 3: housing is actually a livable that causes the problem. But right, yeah,

2056
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 3: the numbers are what they are, right, So what one

2057
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 3: not every five.

2058
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 15: Investors about thirteen to fifteen percent?

2059
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, lower than I thought.

2060
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, and that's where you know, those statistics were from

2061
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 15: realtor dot com, So pretty reliable source beyond investors and

2062
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 15: material costs that are making it difficult and unreasonable as

2063
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 15: far as housing costs are concerned. The third big let's

2064
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 15: let's see who we can blame is politicians. Politicians are

2065
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 15: being blamed for the lack of affordable homes. And you know,

2066
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 15: again it's all about the economy and the how you

2067
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 15: everybody feels about the economy and their own situation. I

2068
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 15: know that it is a lot of doom and gloom

2069
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 15: in that younger generation. They sure you're like it's impossible

2070
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 15: to get ahead.

2071
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: Social discord read it.

2072
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, all that stuff is pretty toxic and negative

2073
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 3: if you look at it, and if that's a steady

2074
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 3: dat or you get your information, you know, the world sucks.

2075
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 4: There's no there's nothing good happening.

2076
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 15: Right and them you consider to be fed that negative energy.

2077
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 15: I'm going to say, and here's the thing. Is it

2078
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 15: harder to buy a home than when we bought our

2079
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 15: first home?

2080
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 11: Yes, I believe it is.

2081
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 15: Because sure, But at the same time, there are a

2082
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 15: lot of things that young people can do to if

2083
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 15: that's something that they want to do. If you want

2084
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 15: to buy a home, you need to do some planning,

2085
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 15: and you need to do some saving. And if you

2086
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 15: want to rent the rest of your life and you

2087
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 15: don't want the responsibility of buying a home, that's something

2088
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 15: you can absolutely do. But you will never build wealth, right,

2089
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 15: or at least it will be more difficult, let's put

2090
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 15: it that way.

2091
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 4: I mean you can, but plenty of people do that

2092
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 4: in rent.

2093
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2094
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:08,600
Speaker 3: One of the things you hear, and I hear this

2095
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 3: from older people too, is well, why don't you just

2096
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 3: they just need to work harder, They.

2097
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 4: Just need to save, they need to think.

2098
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 3: Well, you know that that because when I was your age,

2099
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 3: I well, when I was your age, it was like,

2100
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 3: you know, you could have a job. And I pointed

2101
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 3: this out the other day with college, you know, and

2102
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 3: we subsidized college. And as an example, like generations ago,

2103
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 3: will he talks about this like he went to college,

2104
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 3: paid for it himself. There was no scholarships or anything

2105
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: like that, right, owned a house, had a job, had

2106
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 3: a family, traveled, you know, did all this stuff and

2107
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 3: did it on a part time salary. Basically, that's laughable

2108
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 3: by today's standards. No one can do that.

2109
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 11: No, not not, I don't.

2110
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 4: We would go to college, work part time and have

2111
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 4: a house. How is that possible?

2112
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's it's extremely difficult because actually, and you talked

2113
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 15: about it, most cars, the payment on a car, and

2114
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 15: it's like a mortgage, is like a mortgage. And so

2115
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 15: the average cost of a home in Cincinnati is between

2116
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 15: right around three hundred thousand dollars, And it used to

2117
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 15: be you could buy your starter home at one hundred

2118
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 15: thousand dollars or less, right, And you know, you're not

2119
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 15: seeing that anymore now. Of course, it's just the cost

2120
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 15: of living is so much different now than it was.

2121
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 11: But if you look at what people.

2122
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:30,959
Speaker 15: Are being paid, it's not always it doesn't matter for decades.

2123
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 4: Now, Well, what's happened.

2124
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 3: There's been a disconnect between wages and the GDP like

2125
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 3: it used to prior to nineteen eighty right about there,

2126
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 3: it used to say, you know, once GDP went up,

2127
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 3: once your company's making more money, employees make more money,

2128
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 3: and it lifts all boats. And we kind of went

2129
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 3: in the other direction there, and now this is decades

2130
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 3: of that. So if you don't have enough money to

2131
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 3: buy what you're making it work or service you're giving

2132
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,759
Speaker 3: it work, then that's what's going to happen in the economy.

2133
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 3: Most of it's a consumer economy here. I mean, we're

2134
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 3: still doing fairly well by world standards, but for younger

2135
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 3: people they feel left out. And it's a whole bunch

2136
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 3: of reasons.

2137
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 11: Why it is. But you here's the thing.

2138
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 15: If you want to buy a home, you can, and

2139
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 15: so it's going to take the planning of saving because

2140
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 15: you need a down payment. It's going to take making

2141
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 15: sure that your credit is not in the crapper right,

2142
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 15: you know, talk to.

2143
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:23,719
Speaker 4: Someone another failure of the education system.

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Speaker 15: Well and credit people look at the credit and we

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Speaker 15: know people very close to us who have maxed out

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Speaker 15: all those credit cards and then only make the minimum payment.

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Speaker 11: You'll never ever.

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Speaker 3: Ever catch up and then complain about not getting head.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, you went on vacation, you couldn't afford

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Speaker 3: you know, you're getting whatever you're spending your money on.

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Speaker 3: Lifestyle is so it's like, well, I want to we

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Speaker 3: want to live for now, and you know, you never know.

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Speaker 4: It's try it.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow's not promise, but then it's a priority. It's like,

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Speaker 3: if you want to live for now, then you're never

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Speaker 3: going to be able to save enough to buy a house.

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Speaker 11: So I think for many, many years we didn't have

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Speaker 11: any fun.

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Speaker 4: We did not have any fun. We still don't have

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Speaker 4: that much fun.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think we have some fun.

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Speaker 3: It's fun, yeah, but I get it. I mean, there's

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01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 3: people there's something to be said about living in the moment.

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Speaker 3: We try to do that, but when you're coming up,

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Speaker 3: it's awfully hard.

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Speaker 15: It absolutely is. So you know, you can rent and

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01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,799
Speaker 15: you can find ways. It may just it may be different.

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Speaker 15: The way things are done today is different than the

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Speaker 15: way we did it, as it will be tomorrow and

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Speaker 15: it will and that's just part of life and you

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Speaker 15: have to figure it out. So if you want to

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Speaker 15: buy a home, you're going to have to start planning

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Speaker 15: and it could take a year, it could take two years.

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Speaker 11: Here's one thing.

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Speaker 15: The statistic is just in the last seven days in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 15: over five hundred homes had a price reduction. Okay, what

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Speaker 15: does that tell you? What it tells me is there

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Speaker 15: are opportunities out there because homes are sitting on the

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Speaker 15: market longer and sellers are starting to get little nervous.

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Speaker 15: We're going into those colder months. And if your home

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Speaker 15: is sitting on the market, you have two choices. You

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Speaker 15: can Number one, lower the price. Number two, you can

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Speaker 15: just sit on it. And the longer that it sits,

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Speaker 15: the longer that it will sit. You know, if you

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01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 15: do nothing, likely nothing is going to happen. You can

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01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 15: do updates and relist the property and try to, you know,

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01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 15: improve the property. But it's always about condition, location, and price.

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Speaker 15: A home will sell. We know that from twenty years

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Speaker 15: ago when we had the Great Recession, when homes were

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Speaker 15: on the market for a year or more, they eventually sold.

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Speaker 15: Now did they get the prices that the sellers wanted?

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Speaker 11: Not always.

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Speaker 3: It's not work. No, you don't get to set them.

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Speaker 3: The market sets the rate for night.

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Speaker 15: So a home is you can price it as high

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Speaker 15: as your names sold two years ago. But two years

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Speaker 15: ago we were kind of at the height of the market.

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Speaker 15: We aren't there anymore.

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Speaker 4: So we are you saying houses are decreasing in value?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you just said?

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Speaker 15: I am saying we are definitely seeing a more stable

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Speaker 15: type of a situation.

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Speaker 4: So by now this is a money loser, is what I.

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Speaker 11: Cannot say that. I did not say that. No, here's

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Speaker 11: the thing.

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Speaker 15: You're not going to be You're as not reasonable to

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01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 15: think you're gonna make ten percent on your home every year,

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Speaker 15: year after year.

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Speaker 4: You don't do that. The markets you're not gonna tell.

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Speaker 15: You you're not going to So right now we're more stable.

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01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 15: You may only see a one percent increase. You may

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01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 15: not see the giant, ginormous increase in your in the

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Speaker 15: value of your.

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Speaker 11: Home, all right.

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Speaker 4: Bottom line, bottom.

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Speaker 15: Line is if you want to buy a home, you

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01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 15: can don't believe all the hype in it and all

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Speaker 15: of the headlines because yeah, headlines are just headlines. They're

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01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 15: there to scare you, right, and don't be scared clickbait,

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01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 15: that's right, Watch out for the clickbait.

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Speaker 11: That's right.

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Speaker 3: You want to know that you spend a lot of

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01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 3: time in the evening hours when you're not working. You

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01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 3: work awfully hard, but at home you're clickbait.

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Speaker 15: And everything I do tend to look at a headline

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01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 15: and then oh, never mind, not true.

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's coming to the Bengals. No he's not, Michelle,

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01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 3: you said he's coming to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: It's coming for the game. That's not what this says.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah it does.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it does.

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Speaker 4: Swipe.

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01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 11: So you have to read the fine print.

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Speaker 4: In the fine print.

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Speaker 11: And if you have a question, call me. Michelle Sloan's

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Speaker 11: loans hell sloms dot com.

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Speaker 4: Do you like that, Yeah, it's really good. Just talk

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01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 4: to her. Yeah, just call her to say hot, you

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Speaker 4: can't yet a little bit, Yeah she does. She's chatty.

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Speaker 4: She's chatty that way.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 4: My wife, Michelle actually talked all about real estate today. Nothing. Uh.

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01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 4: And then you're still driving me around for another week.

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01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 15: So yeah, I'm still driving mister Daisy. It's it's getting

2245
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 15: he's kind of getting old, I'll be honest with you.

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01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you got to get up. You used to

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01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 4: sleep in.

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01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 15: It's a kindergarten situation. Remember when the kids were in

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Speaker 15: kindergarten and they were only in school for a short time,

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Speaker 15: and then it's like you just get started on a

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Speaker 15: broad turn back, turn around and go pick them up again.

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01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:15,520
Speaker 4: It is like kindergarten.

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01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 15: It's like for you, it's kindergarten. I have to get

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01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 15: up earlier than I liked to you and then I

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Speaker 15: have to turn around and get you up, get you,

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Speaker 15: pick you up around noon.

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Speaker 3: And funny part the first day she did that here,

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01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 3: she actually took a sign instead where I was supposed

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01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 3: to go and pinned it to my shirt. All right,

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Speaker 3: my wife Michelle Sloan Slow Sloan sells homes dot com

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Speaker 3: open house show that's on the iHeartRadio app where you

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Speaker 3: get your podcast also YouTube as well. In Mainville, Remax time,

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Speaker 3: gotta go, love you, thanks again, and uh, all right,

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Speaker 3: you go warm the car up for a couple of

2265
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: mon's kind of cool out this money. You go, warm

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Speaker 3: the car up, go downstairs, pull it around.

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Speaker 11: I'll warm it up. Warm her.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Maybe I'm gonna milk you like this.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna milk this leg thing for a long time.

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