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Speaker 2: Did you know that Clint Eastwood served I guess I

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Speaker 3: It didn't make sense, but I feel like every actor

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Speaker 1: Like, you graduated high school, you go in the army

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Speaker 3: Maybe you go to war, but maybe it's peacetime, and

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Speaker 4: He served in the Korean War, okay, okay, and he

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Speaker 4: served as a lifeguard in the Korean A lifeguard. I

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Speaker 4: didn't a lifeguard in the Korean War.

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Speaker 5: What were you?

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Speaker 1: I was a yoga instructor.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, they were doing yoga, I think so, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a lifeguard. Does not sound like something that has

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Speaker 1: He gave me a whistle.

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Speaker 2: That's where he came up with.

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Speaker 7: Just shoot you if you don't get out of the pool.

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Speaker 1: Lucky punk, I'm drowning. I'm the opposite of lucky. Brandy

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Speaker 1: Bellman and the DVE Morning Show. Have to grab the

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Speaker 1: magnum like to get out. Here's like holding Please don't

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Speaker 7: It's slippery.

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Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood lifeguard, Uh, it is the DV morning show.

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Speaker 3: Geen Steratour will be joining us seven forty five Charli

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Speaker 3: Betch at eight forty five. This week's WDV bud Like

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Speaker 3: Game Day Bar of the Week is the Charlley Stop

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Speaker 3: in in Bethel Park this NFL season, stop in the

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Speaker 3: trolley stop and grab three fifty bud Light bottles during

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Speaker 3: all Steelers games.

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Speaker 1: Bud Light's easy to drink, easy to enjoy, an abby.

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Speaker 3: We didn't get to a lot yesterday of this weekend's

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Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we still have a lot to get to because

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Speaker 4: yesterday we were able to talk Soundgarden and the White Stripes,

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Speaker 4: the recognition of Warren Zvon in that musical influence category.

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Speaker 4: So here's a couple that we didn't get to and

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Speaker 4: remember this year elected for induction did also include Bad Company,

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Speaker 4: Joe Cocker, Cyndi Lauper, Chubby Checker, and Outcast, and then

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Speaker 4: Salt and Peppa also got a musical influence category nod.

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Speaker 4: But numerous artists have been pushing for Joe Cocker to

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Speaker 4: be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: and that finally did happen.

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Speaker 2: So I want to start with that.

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Speaker 4: Inducted by Brian Adams, who wrote nineteen nineties When the

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Speaker 4: Night Comes for Joe. The musical tribute had three songs

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Speaker 4: that Cocker covered and made his own. And I loved this.

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Speaker 4: Back by Tedsky Trucks, Susan Tedesky and Nathaniel Ratliff did

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Speaker 8: Listen to this, listen to human Mista.

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Speaker 9: I can't just see anyway.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it makes perfect sense to have them

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Speaker 3: Tedsky Trucks has done the entire Mad Dogs and Englishman

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Speaker 3: tribute before you know, which you know is Joe Cocker

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Speaker 3: of course with the Leon.

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Speaker 1: Russell Helm's band. I'll tell you who.

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Speaker 3: Does a bang up job on those tunes is Clinton

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he crushes.

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Speaker 3: All those Joe Cocker songs for to do it Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: Joe Cocker, Come on, is he did well? He did

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Speaker 3: it for the hell Bender Ball wype. He's Hellbender Ball

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. I played I played orgon

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Speaker 3: But you can't beat Nathaniel Ratliffe Withky trucks. That's pretty

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Speaker 3: damn good, but Clinton.

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Speaker 4: That was followed by Teddy Swims joining them on Dave

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Speaker 4: Mason's feeling, all right, what.

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Speaker 5: Is too much to do?

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Speaker 1: Traffic?

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Speaker 9: Traffic?

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what it is. Okay, No, they're doing

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Speaker 2: To get in such a wait, they had to play

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Speaker 4: That did lead into the finale of Cocker's version of

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Speaker 4: The Beatles with a little help from my friends. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, I'm not dressing. No, I'm not dress.

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Speaker 8: Nomber forget back, I go.

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Speaker 4: I'll say, he sounds incredible in the kind of life

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Speaker 4: and for him to sound that good is astonishing to me.

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Speaker 3: I agree, considering how much he has smoked weed in

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Speaker 3: He sounds in more control of his voice than he

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Speaker 4: I saw them perform at the Old Rhyman for as

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Speaker 4: don't even know as a vocalist how you're like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: But I've always loved him as performer. I always said

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Speaker 4: he looks like an infant, like a baby dance and

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Speaker 2: Like he's always just like whoa, you know, he just

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Speaker 1: He's a very likable guy.

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Speaker 11: Yeah so wait, Cyndy Lauper got in but also sang, yeah, she.

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Speaker 2: She did some performing.

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Speaker 4: And I won't give Jacob a heart attack by jumping ahead,

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Speaker 4: but we have some.

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Speaker 1: Of the cuts here. Do you have some of it?

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Speaker 1: I have, I have her acceptance speech, her acceptance speech.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I want to be fair here.

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Speaker 4: Cindy's solo performances vocally were not.

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Speaker 7: I did her songs.

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Speaker 6: She did a.

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Speaker 2: Couple where you know, Adril Levigne jumped in with her.

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Speaker 4: They did like a big girls just want to have

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Speaker 7: Like why not?

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Speaker 1: Big girls just want to have fun?

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Speaker 8: Girls?

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Speaker 4: Oh, they did a big I want to have fun things.

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Speaker 3: No, they're all on ozepic now they trouble trouble finding

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Speaker 2: Not as many.

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Speaker 7: Big girls just want to chew gum.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 11: I think the new version of it, can.

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Speaker 13: You Fun.

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Speaker 8: Time?

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Speaker 2: Simmy Lauper and Ray?

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Speaker 9: Can't you have.

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Speaker 8: Ray Time?

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Speaker 12: Ray?

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Speaker 2: Randy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Really, girls just want

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I picked that one because it was one of

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Speaker 1: Where's Captain low Albano?

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Speaker 4: but but I would love for you to play part

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Speaker 4: of her acceptance speech because actually what she's made me

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Speaker 14: I know that I stand on the shoulders of the

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Speaker 7: I love her voice and accent.

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Speaker 2: I do love it so much.

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Speaker 4: She's still so unyi, but the beginning of that really

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Speaker 2: And I always think about that in Radio two.

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Speaker 2: For everybody, all that does is it robs you of

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Speaker 4: It robs you of people coming in and sharing what

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not pie. There's room for everybody.

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Speaker 4: And so when she says things like that, and then

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Speaker 4: But like Chapel Rone inducted her, And that's a really

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Speaker 2: The early eighties and people just being who is this.

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Speaker 11: And yeah, not knowing how to categorize her, what box

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Speaker 2: So I love that speech. That's worth it. Voice could

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Speaker 11: I feel like they missed an opportunity. Teddy Swims, I

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Speaker 1: Oh God, he would have crushed it.

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Speaker 2: Oh that could have been.

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Speaker 7: Fun time after time. I feel like he's done a cover.

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Speaker 3: Of that sounds right, that's I mean, clearly her best song.

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Speaker 3: That song is a classic edition. That is a timeless song.

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Speaker 4: Our Bad Company also finally made it into the Rock

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Speaker 4: and Roll Hall of Fame on Saturday, and they have

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Speaker 4: been eligible since nineteen ninety nine. But They were inducted

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Speaker 4: by their friend Mick Fleetwood, who recounted a conversation that

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Speaker 15: Fleetwood Mac started out in the late nineteen sixties as

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Speaker 15: often come and watch us. Decades later, when John McVie

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Speaker 1: His heroes back in those days.

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Speaker 15: the Pool would eventually go on to front one of

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Speaker 4: Bad Company drummer Simon Kirk was the only member of

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Speaker 1: His one daughter was in that show Girls.

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Speaker 3: Oh who is she really? Yeah, she's the long blonde hair. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's coming from the Roner Hall of Fame account.

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Speaker 12: He don't love.

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Speaker 4: Let's make Love, Yeah, but that was written by Mick Ralphs.

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Speaker 17: When death takes a friend, it never really dies, you know,

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Speaker 17: Make we got in. We got in and mix it.

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Speaker 1: What can't holding it together?

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Speaker 7: But I hope I didn't.

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Speaker 11: I told him we were getting inducted, and he said,

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Speaker 1: So I said, cheers mate. Anyways, like, yeah, we know

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Speaker 2: Do you like this soup? This is what I'm gonna wear?

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Speaker 5: Will there be jello?

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Speaker 7: All hot dogs go to heaven?

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Speaker 3: I do feel bad that Paul Rodgers couldn't be there

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Speaker 4: I know well he's said that he can still sing.

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of singers saying they can still sing

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Speaker 4: Last couple sounds totally up to you whether you feel

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Speaker 3: On the let's save them, Let's save I want to

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Speaker 3: other ones we'll get to as well. Mike Casual Sports

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Speaker 3: when we come back. Monday Night Football, Last night underwhelming,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers cut one Thornhill Jog. Thornhill is no longer

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Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh Steeler.

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Speaker 7: Greeted Jog wherever he wants now.

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Speaker 3: Jean's territor will join us at seven forty five, and

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Speaker 1: One O two point five dve.

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Speaker 6: Can you play a great pong in the world for me?

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Speaker 1: Only if you can dig it?

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Speaker 1: From the Bridgeville Appliance Weather Center known.

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Speaker 3: For extent, Mike Persed has got your sports right now

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Speaker 3: on your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Why don't two point five DV Mike? What's going on? Sports?

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Speaker 15: Is?

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Speaker 5: I brought to you by Bridgeville Plants.

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Speaker 18: Joe Burrow did some throwing yesterday in Cincinnati. Limited in practice,

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Speaker 5: So he's just in the infancy.

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Speaker 18: Stages of working his way back from the turf toe

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Speaker 3: Sidelin that I think I'd rather face him coming back

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Speaker 18: Speculation in Cincinnati is Burrow might make his return Thanksgiving

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Speaker 18: in quarterback play without Burrow, Joe Flacco continues to amaze.

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Speaker 18: In four games with the Bengals, he's completed sixty four

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Speaker 5: His most recent gameut in.

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Speaker 1: The Browns have Dylan Gapriel.

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Speaker 18: Most recent Bengals game was a week ago Sunday against

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Speaker 5: He's ancient, he hasn't been with this team. No chance. Well, no, he's.

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Speaker 5: I mean, some guys forty four catches decent season.

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Speaker 5: Their problem. They're gonna score points.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope it stays that way.

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Speaker 7: We need a blizzard again.

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Speaker 5: Their defense is just laughably.

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Speaker 1: Like the one that brought down the wreck of the

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Speaker 18: Oh, Brandy, maybe the one Cincinnati defense that's going for it.

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Speaker 18: Every once in a while, Trey Hendrickson can get a

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Speaker 18: Might be the wreck of the good ship Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Rich, I can't hog it.

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Speaker 1: Why would they get rid of him? He's great.

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Speaker 3: And then up there they were bitching NonStop about him,

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Speaker 3: that this could be it. I just can't imagine if

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Speaker 3: I could see it being with.

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Speaker 1: A new regime leading the way.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I think Mike Tomlins's greatest strength, and

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Speaker 18: there's a strong sentiment in Steeler Nation that this is

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Speaker 1: It's not the.

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Speaker 18: Super Bowl, but it's never been done before at the

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Speaker 1: There's nobody else on the list.

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Speaker 18: I mean, but this season, they're five and four right now,

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Speaker 18: and you start looking at these games the rest of

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Speaker 18: the way.

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Speaker 5: I think they can all go either way.

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Speaker 18: Agreed both on how because of how I feel about

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Speaker 18: this Steelers team and looking at their opponents. I was

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Speaker 18: watching the Bengals play the Bears the last game because

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Speaker 18: it was a perfect scout game because it's the Steelers next.

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Speaker 5: To a point.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, right, and Caleb Williams. We'll get into more Chicago

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Speaker 18: stuff next week. But you write down wow, and you

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Speaker 18: write down WTF, like when he does stuff like.

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Speaker 1: How did he do that? And why did he do that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So that could go either way. I mean, the Ravens

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Speaker 5: games can go either way. There's not all layup.

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Speaker 18: The only one I think that they're in real, real

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Speaker 18: trouble where I would be shocked if they win is

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Speaker 18: the one at Detroit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're gonna lose that one.

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Speaker 7: But in the in the Miami game, because it's at night,

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Speaker 7: it's a prime time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I lose those.

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Speaker 5: That used to be their thing. Now it's not so.

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Speaker 18: To your point, I mean this, what if they end

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Speaker 18: up with a losing record, with a bad losing record,

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Speaker 18: what if it looks like it looked against the Chargers. Now,

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Speaker 18: I think you start having a different conversation.

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Speaker 1: This is Rich Eising yesterday. I think he's a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame head coach.

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Speaker 19: I think he is remarkable at plugging into the athlete.

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Speaker 1: I think he is.

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Speaker 19: Remarkable at taking the passion for football and instilling it

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Speaker 19: in a team, no doubt. And I think that if

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Speaker 19: this falls apart, I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers

487
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Speaker 19: finally say let's figure something out and then Tomlin shows

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Speaker 19: up somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: It's plausible.

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Speaker 18: It's a reasonable scenario. I mean there are several But

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Speaker 18: you don't say that if they're seven and two, No,

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Speaker 18: if they have a historic defense.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 11: But part of why Aaron Rodgers was brought in here

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Speaker 11: was the thought process of if you have a really

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Speaker 11: good team. This guy can maybe get you over that hump.

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Speaker 11: But the idea that a rod is going to put

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Speaker 11: the whole team on his back as the road narrows

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Speaker 11: does not seem plausible to me.

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Speaker 7: That seems set up for failure.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't I don't know what to make of

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Speaker 18: their offense after the Chargers game. I still think they

503
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Speaker 18: can be an effective points scoring offense, but they need

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Speaker 18: to start being that, and then they need to start

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Speaker 18: being that Sunday.

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Speaker 11: Right outside of a crazy turnover game, generating their own

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Speaker 11: offense and their own drives.

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Speaker 18: Well, just score points. I mean they you know they

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Speaker 18: got the turnovers against the Colts. They scored points that

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Speaker 18: they did. Just get a first down what they're supposed

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Speaker 18: to do. Can't can't have what they had against the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 18: I can't remember if you played that Rex Ryan clip

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Speaker 18: on the air and up, but people might have heard it. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: there were times they didn't have a lot of open receivers.

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Speaker 18: Rodgers mentioned that in the Chargers games. When the times

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Speaker 18: you get them hit them.

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Speaker 20: Man, I should have gone asleep because I watched this game.

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Speaker 20: Why I have no idea like Aaron Rodgers looks awful Okay,

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Speaker 20: the receiver's stunk too, though, I mean the one dude

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Speaker 20: with the feet for hands.

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Speaker 1: But I literally can we we saw a couple where

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Speaker 1: guys actually were open.

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Speaker 20: Uh, there were a million where they were just getting

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Speaker 20: beat up all over the field. So to me that

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Speaker 20: no receivers all right, I like the running back, but

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Speaker 20: for some reason they don't run the ball. Maybe Aaron's

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Speaker 20: checking out the path. I mean, give it one of

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Speaker 20: those little deals. Again, I can't stand watching it. And

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Speaker 20: their defense actually played better than they have been, but

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Speaker 20: they're still terrible.

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Speaker 7: Damn it.

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Speaker 5: Guys pound on a little bit for effect on TV.

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Speaker 18: Defense played really well, agree, and there were plays there

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Speaker 18: to be made. There weren't a ton of them all nine,

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Speaker 18: but there were enough that they could have won that game.

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Speaker 18: And they gotta be better.

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Speaker 6: You know what's happening? Red, Good morning?

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Speaker 5: How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 5: It's cold.

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Speaker 12: The weather reflected the feeling here and the steel City

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Speaker 12: right now.

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Speaker 3: Randy, it's a cold, gray day, you know, no, and

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Speaker 3: it seems colder because the Steelers lost, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like when they lose, it feels even more bitter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, tough, buddy. It was tough. You know.

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Speaker 12: I was part of the the airline to Bacle this

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Speaker 12: weekend at nine, you know, to fly home Sunday night

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Speaker 12: and get home, and everything canceled. So I went old

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Speaker 12: school and rented the car and and I you know,

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Speaker 12: I'm like, I sorry, I'll put the IP on YouTube

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Speaker 12: TV on, stick it on the dash and watch the

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Speaker 12: Steeler game when I drop back to you know, to Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 12: And it didn't look any better on an.

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Speaker 6: That's all I can tell you.

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Speaker 1: You know, start driving towards the bridge Jersey Turnpike.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, there's the people on the Jersey Turnpike. Don't know

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Speaker 12: why they fissed me off so much, but it wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it happens, it happens, but it did look

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Speaker 3: like Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he went and saw his wife

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Speaker 3: and they were arguing all weekend.

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Speaker 1: You know, he finally went home, you know.

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Speaker 3: Uh what it was that got under his skin, But

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Speaker 3: he did not look like the Aaron Rodgers we've seen

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Speaker 3: to this point.

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Speaker 12: No, this was the first time I think we looked

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Speaker 12: and thought things that we don't want to think yet,

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Speaker 12: you know, I mean they just just that seemed to

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Speaker 12: be on the same page. You know, it's just it's

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Speaker 12: like a click missing. It's the last second communication or

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Speaker 12: identification and a and either changing off of the route

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Speaker 12: or where the ball is going to go. And I

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Speaker 12: think Mike just said it here just a minute ago.

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Speaker 12: You know, there's this four or five plays that, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: they got their butt kicked.

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Speaker 6: They didn't play well.

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Speaker 12: I thought the defense played really well, but it looks

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Speaker 12: like they're awes. They're not on sync with a little

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Speaker 12: bit of that little communication. Is it back shoulder? Do

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Speaker 12: you want me to keep going straight? Little little nuanced

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Speaker 12: things And we can't afford that right now. We're not

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Speaker 12: good enough to overcome the three or four mistakes were

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Speaker 12: making a crucial situation.

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Speaker 11: Geen, you know, I mean, obviously the Steelers haven't looked

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Speaker 11: like they're ready for prime time in these in these

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Speaker 11: night games, but maybe it's because they're the second oldest

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Speaker 11: team in the league. I mean, it's not fun to watch,

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Speaker 11: but it is relatable. I mean, it gets dark before dinner.

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Speaker 11: Now I'm nodding out on the couch two hours before

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Speaker 11: the game. When you when you were a ref, did

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Speaker 11: did the night games seem to get later and later

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Speaker 11: as your career.

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Speaker 12: Progressed, life gets later and later. Bulle, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 12: I had some guys on my crew.

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Speaker 6: For me, it didn't bother me.

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Speaker 12: I roughed so many hoop games, so seven o'clock at

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Speaker 12: night to me was was game time many days, so

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Speaker 12: I kind of enjoyed it. But I did have some

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Speaker 12: you know, older officials. You know you look at and say,

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Speaker 12: get your nap here.

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Speaker 6: At noon today. You know, we'll send somebody up.

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Speaker 12: To wake up around two thirty and we'll be ready

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Speaker 12: to go. But we we have not performed well in

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Speaker 12: prime time, and that also wakes the country up a

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Speaker 12: little more, right because there's only one game on, so

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Speaker 12: everybody's getting.

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Speaker 6: The taste of it.

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Speaker 12: Let's play at one oh five. Well, we'll be all

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Speaker 12: right at one oh five. Well, okay, I'm on that.

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Speaker 3: Did you get to see that There was one play

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Speaker 3: that people were pretty upset about. I think it was

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Speaker 3: a third down d K appeared to be interfered with,

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Speaker 3: and they tried to figure out whether or not that

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Speaker 3: constituted the defensive pass interference? What was your calling that?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, well that exactly right.

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Speaker 6: It's a basketball play. And h again, I was probably around.

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Speaker 12: Bedford at that time. Yeah, I think that's where I was.

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Speaker 12: I think I was in that long distance between the

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Speaker 12: you know, rest areas where you're gonna hope you get

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Speaker 12: enough gas.

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Speaker 6: But no, it was colins Worth alluded to it. He

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Speaker 6: was right.

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Speaker 12: It's a block charge play, and the definition very pure

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Speaker 12: in a basketball sense, that defensive back has to be

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Speaker 12: both beat down kind of facing his opponent. If he

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Speaker 12: gets to that space, then it's the receiver's obligation to

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Speaker 12: avoid him. But if he's sliding in right at the

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Speaker 12: last second, right and he's not there completely there, that's

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Speaker 12: a that's a block in basketball, and that's defensive pass

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Speaker 12: interference in football.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 12: And I think that was a you know, you don't

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Speaker 12: want to say the way that they played that that

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Speaker 12: may have been.

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Speaker 6: A turning point, but it was. Look, they need everything right,

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Speaker 6: so you.

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Speaker 12: Can't even have an officiating blip on a tough play

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Speaker 12: that gives you the first down because we're not really

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Speaker 12: that doesn't seem we're right now, playing well enough to

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Speaker 12: overcome even the human.

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Speaker 6: Errors of the stripes.

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Speaker 12: Every once in a while, a block it's a block,

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Speaker 12: it's a block. And if it goes in. It's an

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Speaker 12: and one bike. We're we're getting one yes.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Last night another push push controversy. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's getting boring talking about this. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: we landed on your thoughts, it will this be the

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Speaker 3: last year of the Toush push, you know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I would hate for the Toush push.

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Speaker 12: Although I'm not a fan of the play overall, I

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Speaker 12: think the optics of it, I'm just not a fan

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Speaker 12: of it. It's effective, but I don't want the play

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Speaker 12: to disappear because they say the officials can't rest the

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Speaker 12: play the Green Bay one on the hurry up and

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Speaker 12: trying to get out of there because there's no substitution.

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Speaker 12: So officials do get put in a little window when

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Speaker 12: a team goes no sub quick offense like that, get

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Speaker 12: the ball down, get back into your position to officiate

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Speaker 12: the play, and officials have to be aware of that.

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Speaker 12: And the Green Bay one, which was a false start

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Speaker 12: to this, was the series right before the more egregious myths.

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Speaker 12: It's a little harder, I think in that situation because

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Speaker 12: it is quick and the officials are trying to get

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Speaker 12: set and now all of a sudden, it just snaps

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Speaker 12: the next one with Philadelphia. Though, Listen, two guys looking

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Speaker 12: down the barrel on that line of scrimmage, and that

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Speaker 12: is their primary job at that moment in time, and

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Speaker 12: history tells us that this play, you know, not been

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Speaker 12: a play that's been really handled. Well, you've got to

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Speaker 12: get that false start on the Eagles, because that's not

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Speaker 12: a deterrent to get rid of the play. But it

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Speaker 12: is your moment as an officiating team on the field

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Speaker 12: to say, look, and if you're going to run it, cool,

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Speaker 12: but it's a false start. It's third to six, it's

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Speaker 12: fourth and six. You can't miss that false start. That's

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Speaker 12: that's not a play that's too hard to officiate. That one,

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Speaker 12: that's just one you've got to get right. And that

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Speaker 12: that's you know, it's extra pressure, but you just got

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Speaker 12: to get that play right.

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Speaker 6: Now. Personally, I don't like video reping. I don't like

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Speaker 6: doing it from my couch because it's hard out there.

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Speaker 6: That play. To me, though, that.

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Speaker 12: One that doesn't seem like a hard play to get right.

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Speaker 12: That one you've got to get right, and they just

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Speaker 12: didn't last night. It's going to add to the this

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Speaker 12: you know, the frenzy of the tush push.

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Speaker 18: Speaking of stuff we should get rid of, Jeane, how

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Speaker 18: difficult is it to officiate when a guy stopped but

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Speaker 18: he isn't stopped, and then they all start pushing from

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Speaker 18: behind and it just goes on till they decide it

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Speaker 18: should stop. I would be a big fan of eliminating

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Speaker 18: helping a runner move forward from behind in any capacity.

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Speaker 18: But some of these forward progress plays, can you kind

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Speaker 18: of just speak in general as to you know, how

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Speaker 18: you guys figure out or how you used to figure

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Speaker 18: out when the guys actually stopped.

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Speaker 12: It's as hard, Mike, because you want to give the

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Speaker 12: runner everything it can get. And I'm with you one

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Speaker 12: thousand percent because I think that's where this all gained

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Speaker 12: traction and then became the thing. We know that pulling

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Speaker 12: a runner forward, if you're in front of the runner,

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Speaker 12: you can't pull him with you, right, which has happened

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Speaker 12: a few times as a result of having all these

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Speaker 12: big guys around the runner and trying to gain that

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Speaker 12: extra yard. It's not a great play to officiate because

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Speaker 12: you don't want to, you don't want to know, you

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Speaker 12: don't want to avoid getting that runner as opportunity to

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Speaker 12: plow forward, and when the bodies meet and we're at

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Speaker 12: a standstill for that brief breath or tick, you do

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Speaker 12: want to see what happens right after that. And if

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Speaker 12: the running back starts to win, you want to give

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Speaker 12: him a little you know, get that chance. But if

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Speaker 12: it starts to just sluggishly go slow, you've got to

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Speaker 12: kill it because people get hurt. I am with you, though,

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Speaker 12: I think the answer to this is aiding the runner

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Speaker 12: from the front or.

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Speaker 5: The back like this.

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Speaker 12: Look, it's not only I think ugly football and doesn't

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Speaker 12: look like anything.

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Speaker 6: It just you know, looks it's rugby.

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Speaker 12: I think it's a safety issue, and we've had so

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Speaker 12: many rule changes that direct themselves toward the safety of players.

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Speaker 6: But I don't care how big Jalen hurts is he's

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Speaker 6: got one thousand pounds.

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Speaker 1: Of humanity behind him.

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Speaker 12: Standing him into two thousand pounds in front of him

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Speaker 12: that's trying to stop him. And he's the double stuff

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Speaker 12: cream in the middle.

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Speaker 9: You know like that, You know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 9: we know what happens if you squeeze the double stuff.

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Speaker 6: You know, it starts steeping out the side.

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Speaker 9: So I think I just think if we get away

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Speaker 9: from that and say, you know, any type of once

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Speaker 9: that initial progress is stopped, any type.

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Speaker 12: Of action that you're coming from behind and plowing into that,

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Speaker 12: there's also that moment that rests. Feel like when that

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Speaker 12: starts to happen, people start coming from a different area, right,

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Speaker 12: there's three or four yards of space in between someone

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Speaker 12: and they're coming full full smoke right into this pal.

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Speaker 12: There's just a lot of safety ramifications to me, you

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Speaker 12: know there, So if we go anywhere to clean this up,

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Speaker 12: it is Look, there is no help from the front

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Speaker 12: or the or the back on a runner once he

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Speaker 12: starts to get stopped. I think it'll make the game cleaner,

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Speaker 12: and it's I think it's a safety issue.

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