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Speaker 1: Wlw RNL carry or Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lance count Hey, thanks for hanging out tonight. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk some hoops. Truest Arena the site for a Horizon

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Speaker 1: League showdown tomorrow night. They're Red Hot Norse hosting Oakland.

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Speaker 1: Bring a stuffed toy for a postgame Teddy Bear toss

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Speaker 1: and could beat for prizes. It's done in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Meyer and Toys for Tot's always a cool scene. The

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Speaker 1: Norse of nine and three overall, one in one in

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Speaker 1: league play. They are undefeated seven to zero at home

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Speaker 1: going into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. How about that?

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Speaker 1: I love stats going into the weekend, the Norse with

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Speaker 1: the only team in the country with three players that

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Speaker 1: had scored at least one hundred and seventy points this year.

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Speaker 1: How about that? For more on the Norse, lets Norse up.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in their head coach friend of the show. We

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Speaker 1: love talking with them. That would be Darren Horne.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing great? Lance? Thanks for having me man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for catching up with me tonight. I look today,

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Speaker 1: you guys are averaging almost eighty six points a game.

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Speaker 1: That's eleven more points per game than any team you've had. There,

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Speaker 1: what's gotten into your offen this year?

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Speaker 2: Better players. We just we just got more guys that

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Speaker 2: not only can score the ball lance, but I think

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Speaker 2: are are willing passers that have basketball lot cue to

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Speaker 2: make the right next play. We're just we're getting a

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Speaker 2: lot more easy shots. Now. The other thing about that is,

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Speaker 2: you know we're still top You know it changes every day,

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Speaker 2: but as of Sunday night, top ten in the country,

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Speaker 2: and turnover percentage is still top fifteen and steals percentage,

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Speaker 2: so our defense is leading to a lot of transition,

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Speaker 2: which is easy baskets.

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Speaker 1: LJ wells ten games this year with at least ten

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Speaker 1: points in five boards. That's top ten in the country.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you refer to him when talking with Jim

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Speaker 1: It really is. And he's a finisher for you guys,

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Speaker 2: He really has been. And I'm so proud of LJ

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Speaker 2: because the real truth is that he hasn't been that

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Speaker 2: his whole career. Right, We've seen flashes, but we haven't

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Speaker 2: seen this kind of consistency or just some games slat

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Speaker 2: out dominance from him. And just so proud of the

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Speaker 2: growth he's made and the commitment that he's made to

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Speaker 2: playing so aggressively and really impacting winning with his presence

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Speaker 2: on the interior. And again, I think a big part

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Speaker 2: of our offensive success is because he's playing the five

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Speaker 2: for us. But this is a guy that can pop

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Speaker 2: reads and make the right passes and knock down some

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Speaker 1: In the Saturday whin, you had five guys score at

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Speaker 1: least twelve points and record a steal that never been

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Speaker 1: done in your Division one era, and you kind of

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Speaker 1: alluded to it. It's not a one man show. I

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Speaker 1: think you've got four guys averaging between thirteen and eighteen points.

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Speaker 1: There's contributions coming from all different directions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been really balanced, Lance, you know, And you

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Speaker 2: know we were talking about as a staff today, we've

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Speaker 2: got four guys that if they got twenty pointys something

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Speaker 2: given night wouldn't wouldn't really be that big a deal, right,

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Speaker 2: I do think it's been harder for teams to focus

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Speaker 2: the game tomorrow and some other games are important league play,

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Speaker 2: where teams have really tried to focus on taking out

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Speaker 2: That's that's much harder to do with this team because

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Speaker 1: I noticed you had forty four in the paint against

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Speaker 1: Bellerman Saturday. You had forty in the paint against Cleveland State.

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Speaker 1: I was reading your former player, David Wassler covers you

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Speaker 1: guys for North's Illustrated, and he referred to it as

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Speaker 2: of the things that's leading to is is better offensive

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Speaker 1: Also, you're eleven games in. Through those eleven, have you

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Speaker 2: You know, I think we're getting there, and we're getting

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Speaker 2: But the biggest thing is we've had pretty good consistency

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Speaker 1: You get Oakland tomorrow night at home for the showdown.

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Speaker 1: They're led by their wily veteran Greg Camp, who's in

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Speaker 1: They've dropped ninety eight on Toledo one hundred and one

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Speaker 2: As well, So it's really interesting. And you know, over

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Speaker 1: I noticed this earlier today. I don't want to leave

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, our guys have really done a good

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Speaker 2: a good Christmas with a couple of elementary schools this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's it's, you know, something that's important to us. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Northern Kentucky community means so much to us and

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Speaker 2: it is because the Norse nation and to be able

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Speaker 2: quite honestly, Lance and in today's college basketball world where

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Speaker 2: be reminded, especially in this time of the year, the

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Speaker 1: Well, said absolutely. I hesitate to look ahead. I know

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Speaker 1: you get Chris Mack in College of Charleston. We talked

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Speaker 2: You know, it was a game that neither one of

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Speaker 2: I don't think either one really wanted to play a

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Speaker 2: for Christmas, right, So, uh, you know, we put the

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Speaker 2: And what's going to be two really good basketball games

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night Oakland Sunday, College of Charleston. Tickets nkunors dot com.

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Speaker 1: It is always great here in your voice. Always enjoy

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Speaker 1: our conversations. You know you're welcome anytime, and best of

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Speaker 2: Thanks, I mean, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks coach. There you go, Darren Horne, head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Norse. Norse and up they're red hot, nine and three,

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Speaker 1: one in one in late play seven and oh at

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night as they try to get to eight and

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Speaker 1: oh at home in a showdown versus Oakland. So one

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Speaker 1: team averaging eighty nearly eighty six points a game at

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Speaker 1: Oakland averaging eighty four points a game. Holy cal wonder

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Speaker 1: what the over under total on that game is. Later on,

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Speaker 1: after the eight o'clock news, we'll talk with Richard Patino

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Speaker 1: in advance of the Musketeers opening Big East play tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: But more coming up next of your reaction appreciation, Foreign

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Speaker 1: memory shared of the four new Reds Hall of Famers

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Speaker 1: as we roll on with RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

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Speaker 3: Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker where the drakes and conversation

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Speaker 1: We've been duped, hoodwinked, Calm for fifty years. The lung

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