1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: From WBZ News Radio in Boston. This is New England Weekend. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Each week we come together right here talk about all 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: the topics important to you and the place where you live. 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Thanks again for tuning in this week. I'm Nicole Davis. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: There's always something special about having a place to call home, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: and that's just not the case for us individuals. It's 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: also the case for nonprofits and organizations. The Black Economic 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Council of Massachusetts has had to move several times over 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: the years. A dream, though, has always been to find 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: a special place to settle down and create a permanent 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: place to engage with entrepreneurs. Now it's happening with the 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: recent purchase of their new sustainability hub in Roxbury. Thing 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: is there's a long way to go before that full 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: dream can be realized, but that's where you can help. 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Let's learn more. Nicole Obe, the president and CEO. If 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Bechma is back on the show, Nicole, it is great 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to have you here again and for people who maybe 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: tuning in for the first time to hear you give 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: us a quick down about Bechma and what it is 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: you do. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: BECHMA. We are a nonprofit organization with a mission to 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: help build black wealth across the commonwealth, and we do 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: that through our policy and advocacy work. We also do 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: it through our programming and we bring people together with 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: our events. We are an organization that was birthed out 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: of the twenty fifteen Federals Or Bank of Boston Color 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: of Wealth study, where it was found that the median 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: net worth of black Boston household was eight dollars compared 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: to white Boston households at the time of over two 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five or about two hundred and fifty 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. And Bechma. Actually, we just celebrated our ten 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: year anniversary on November twenty fifth. 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Congratulations, And you know ten years, Boston has changed a 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: lot during that time, and you talked about your mission 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: about you know, that figure never ceases to amaze me 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: in the worst way. I do feel gratefully that black 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: business ownership is starting to thrive in parts of Boston, 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: and you hear about initiatives like Jalen Brown talking about 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: building a Black Wall Street. You, of course are a 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: big part of all this success. What does this feel 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: like watching all this development? 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've definitely made progress, and so we're 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: grateful for our founders and all of our members and 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: all of our allies that have been helpful in that process. 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: And it definitely takes strong leadership and intentionality to see 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: those changes. Use Mayor Wu as an example. When she 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: came into office, she came on the platform that she 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: was going to do more around addressing the lack of 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: inclusive procurement in the City of Boston, and they have 50 00:02:54,200 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: more than doubled, almost tripled their results in her first term. 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: And so, you know, I know sometimes it's hard to 52 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: change direction, especially for an institution, but I think that 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: she's a really good example of some of the positive 54 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: change that we've seen around you know, an entrenched issue 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: like supplier diversity or inclusive maturement, and so that you know, 56 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: I think it's a municipal government can do it. Then 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: that shows that a lot of others, private companies and 58 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,279 Speaker 2: others can do it as well. And we're starting to 59 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: make good progress in some of those areas, but we 60 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: still have a long way to go. 61 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And we can talk about the focus for 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: the next ten years here in a couple of minutes, 63 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: But first I want to focus on your new headquarters 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: because this is a big deal. You've been working if 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, you've been working out of a coworking 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: space over at Roxbury Community College. So this is a 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: pretty big thing as you now have a space to 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: call home. 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've actually worked in four different offices in the 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: short time that I run BECKMA, beginning in twenty twenty two. 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: And so one of the pillars for wealth building is 72 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: ownership for us here at BECKMA, and that's something that 73 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: we advocate for and we tried to support our members with. 74 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: We thought it was really important when we had this 75 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to buy our own home to do so, and 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: so we were fortunate to get a lot of support 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: from major foundations, from individual donors, and we were able 78 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: to quickly put together a campaign to buy this new 79 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: space that will be our headquarters in Roxbury. And so 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: it's really a big accomplishment we're really proud of. But 81 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: it really does speak to the importance of the benefits 82 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: of ownership and is stability that it affords people that 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people take for granted, but the black 84 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: community in particular has some of the nation's lowest ownership 85 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: rates here in Massachusetts, and so that really affects our 86 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: ability to build wealth and that was manifest in the 87 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: in the twenty fifteen study. So we're you know, our 88 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: ability to build wealth is going to depend a lot 89 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: upon our ability to gain more ownership. 90 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: And I did notice it's called the Sustainability Hub, which 91 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: I really appreciate because you're not just talking about business sustainability, 92 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: but you're talking about environmental justice as well. 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: That's right, yes, very much. So it's for BECMA Zone 94 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: sustainability so that we can actually focus on our work 95 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: and not moving. It's for really helping the neighborhood of 96 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Newbian Square and Roxbury as it goes through this transition. 97 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: There's an enormous amount of development that's going on in 98 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: that neighborhood after decades of of nothing really happening there 99 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: in a productive growth type of way. But we want 100 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: to make sure that our businesses are able to ride 101 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: the wave of development and not get crushed by it, 102 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: and so we are trying to support them in growing 103 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: and lockstep with the growth that's going on in the neighborhood. 104 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: And then lastly, as you said, we're very much focused 105 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: for the last several years on climate from both an 106 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: environmental and an economic justice perspective. We think it's a 107 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: wonderful growth opportunity for our community from a business perspective, 108 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: but it also is really important to our community because 109 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: not too long ago the city had to study about 110 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: the difference in life expectancy being twenty three years between 111 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: where our office is located and the back bay. Some 112 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: of that is attributable to, you know, it being hotter 113 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: and more polluted there than in the back bay, and 114 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: so we want to also play our part to help. 115 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the space itself, because renovations, no 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: matter how big or how small, they're not easy. And 117 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: I know that renovating an entire building it takes a 118 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: lot of work. But what does the building have to 119 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: offer and what are you doing to make it a 120 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: space for would be entrepreneurs and business owners and also 121 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: for yourselves at the council. 122 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Sure, we have a great exciting vision for the space. 123 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: It is right now a two unit condo complex, part 124 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: of a larger, larger residential condo complex, and so our 125 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: two units on the first floor we're planning on having 126 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: that being a demonstration in a showroom and a model 127 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: space for what it's like to live, work, and learn 128 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: in a climate resilient and sustainable environment, so really well, 129 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, seeing a heat pump in action, not just 130 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: in a box, actually cooking and having events and demonstrations 131 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: on induction stoves because they don't admit the fumes that 132 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: gas stoves can admit, especially in an idler dense community 133 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: an area. And so we'll have that demonstration space for 134 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: our residents but also our businesses to come in to 135 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: show off the type of work that they can do. 136 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: On the second floor that'll serve as our headquarters, we'll 137 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: be able to continue our work helping to accelerate our 138 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: businesses and entrepreneurs into the space. We also have a 139 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: green roof, so we will be I believe, the third 140 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: green roof in the area, which is great. So we'll 141 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: be able to build on the positive benefits that green 142 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: roofs have for the building itself and then for the neighborhood. 143 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: And lastly, I'm very excited about the base and we'd 144 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: like to turn that into a maker space for operators. 145 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: So think about people who install and maintain your solar panels, 146 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: your ev charging stations, other climate related hardware. We want 147 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: to give them a space where they can actually do 148 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: the assemblies, to do the testing, the demonstrations, and there's 149 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: no other place that's like that. Our businesses are not 150 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: able to walk into the higher ed institutions or even 151 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: into some of the other mit or any of these 152 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: other places and actually do the work that we need 153 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: for them to help us to grow our climate economy, 154 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: and so we need we need a space for them, 155 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: and this is a space that we're going to use 156 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: for our maker space in our lab. 157 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Wow, this is so cool. You know you are seeing 158 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: this renaissance and Nubian Square and really so much of Roxbury. 159 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how excited the business owners are telling 160 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: you that they are because they know you're coming and 161 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: they know that these resources are on the way. 162 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 2: Hopefully, we have to raise money to do all these renovations, 163 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: so we were able to quickly put together a campaign 164 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: to purchase the building, but we're estimating that we're going 165 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: to need another maybe six million dollars to do these 166 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: renovations to bring the Sustainability Hub and all of its 167 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: elements to the four So we will be and have 168 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: been actively seeking partners and supporters of this work. But 169 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: we've gotten some great enthusiastic feedback and support thus far. 170 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, anybody interested in working with us, we'd love 171 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: to work with you. 172 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk in a couple of minutes about how 173 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: people can donate, how they can get involved and team 174 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: up with you. But I did want to ask you. 175 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, we were talking a few minutes about how 176 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: the Council's been around for ten years, how Boston is changing, 177 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: but there's still so much work to do when it 178 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: comes to equity in business and in many other ways. 179 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: What is the focus now on the next ten years 180 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 1: for BECMA. 181 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: That's a great question. Our focus really is that we 182 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: are looking to create more black employer firms. That is 183 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: very key metric for us. Even though the majority of 184 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: black owned firms across the Commonwealth are small and many 185 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: of them are solopreneurs, but at the moment when they 186 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: switch from being their own enterprise to becoming employer firms, 187 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: it starts them on the path to accelerated wealth building. 188 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: And so that's a key metric for us to help 189 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: our businesses achieve that level. When those business owners become wealthier, 190 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: they hire black and brown people and the ripple effect 191 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 2: continues from there. And so as a small nonprofit organization. 192 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: We feel that we can have the biggest impact by 193 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: directly supporting as many businesses possible, but particularly those that 194 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: are transitioning or have the opportunity to become employer firms. 195 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: And for our current employer firms, we want to help 196 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: them to get stronger. So that's really where our work lives. 197 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: That's the most important thing that we can be doing 198 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: for these firms at this time. 199 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about how people can then support you. 200 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned this campaign. You need about six million dollars 201 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to get everything set up and running over at the 202 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: sustainability Hub. How can people team up with you, partner 203 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: with you, get you this funding, these resources? How can 204 00:12:59,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: they do that? 205 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: Sure, thank you will. We have a website, it's bechma 206 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: dot org. They can reach out to us there. They 207 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: can always send an email to info at beechma dot org. 208 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: We'd be happy to share with you not only what 209 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: are we doing with our sustainability hub, but we actually 210 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: have a broader campaign called bechmat ten and that is 211 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: to raise twenty five million dollars. We're more than halfway 212 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: through that campaign right now. That's for the building, that's 213 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: for a loan program that we have for our businesses, 214 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: and that is just for general and supporting BECHMA and 215 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: the programs that we run until we'd love to tell 216 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: you more about it and get your support. 217 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: Okay. And you know you are getting ready to leave 218 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: the space at the college and everything, but you have 219 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: the Business Innovation Center at RCC and I'm sure you 220 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: guys still have a strong connection there as well. Right. 221 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, absolutely, We're really so pleased that we were 222 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: able to partner with our CC for the space to 223 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: be their anchor tenant. We see a lot of activity there. 224 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: RCC has also been having quite a few events in 225 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: the space and just making good space use of the 226 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: space of the community, and you know, I'm I'm I'm 227 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: grateful to have them as our neighbors. We also on 228 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: the other side we have Franklin Cummings Tech which will 229 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: complete their campus shortly, and then there are also three 230 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: technical high schools in the area. So this really, I 231 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: think is you know, the sort of epicenter of education 232 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: and opportunity, especially in the tech space for Massachusetts is 233 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: going to be right there and newb and Square, it's 234 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: really special. 235 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Nicole Obie. It is always a pleasure to talk with you, 236 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Thank you again for taking time to come back on 237 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: the show, and best of luck with the campaign. 238 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: Great thank you for having me. 239 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: Have a safe and healthy weekend. Please join me again 240 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: next week for another edition of the show. I'm Nicole 241 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Davis from WBZ News Radio on iHeartRadio