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Speaker 2: Bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss to the Buffalo
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Speaker 3: David. It's great to see you.
Speaker 2: This was a game that looked very, very promising for
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Yeah, they led by ten points with eight
Speaker 2: forty four to go. Everything was going great until it
Speaker 2: wasn't until twenty one consecutive points for the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: on their way to a thirty nine to thirty four victory.
Speaker 3: You know, it's scary, man, because we sit here and
Speaker 3: we talk about what they're supposed to do, what they're
Speaker 3: not supposed to do, and with seven eight minutes left
Speaker 3: in the game, you got the football. You're up five
Speaker 3: four or five points, four points three points. Run the ball,
Speaker 3: run the ball, make Buffalo stop you but run the ball,
Speaker 3: and here we go. We get creative again and try
Speaker 3: to set up a quick pass to Chase because I
Speaker 3: think Burrow saw the blitz the corner coming, so Borrow
Speaker 3: saw that. He tried to get it out quick, didn't
Speaker 3: get enough air underneath them, and then the wheels fell off.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's touchdown pass to Mike Gseki from twelve yards
Speaker 2: out gave the Bengals a twenty eight to eighteen lead
Speaker 2: with eight forty four to go. Yes, what five plus
Speaker 2: minutes later, we're down there, They're down by ten anyway,
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, And that's when you want the Bengals to
Speaker 2: get a stop right there, with a ten point lead,
Speaker 2: have a get the ball back, run the footballs titan,
Speaker 2: you know, kill the clock, win in style.
Speaker 3: But no, Josh.
Speaker 2: Allen gets loose for a forty yard touchdown run a
Speaker 2: minute eleven seconds later, pulling Buffalo within.
Speaker 3: Three, twenty eight to twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the really the play of the game
Speaker 2: that turned everything around.
Speaker 3: Swung the swung the momentum.
Speaker 2: Christian Benfords comes up the cornerback and Joe saw him.
Speaker 2: He tried to loft a pass over him on the
Speaker 2: right side, and he intercepts the ball and goes sixty
Speaker 2: three yards for a pick six at five point twenty five,
Speaker 2: giving Buffalo the lead for good. And then on Burrow's
Speaker 2: next pass, he gets tipped at the line of scrimmage, intercepted,
Speaker 2: and they stuff it in again.
Speaker 3: You know the here's the thing, And I heard Box
Speaker 3: Miller talking about this on the ride over about they
Speaker 3: didn't quit. You saw him fight. They kept doing what
Speaker 3: they were supposed to be doing. But it's just sometimes
Speaker 3: I think we tried to out fox the fox. We
Speaker 3: tried to out fox the other coach, try to come
Speaker 3: up with something that was the perfect time to put
Speaker 3: the ball in Chase Brown's hand and try to run
Speaker 3: some clock off. I know Joe has been doing a
Speaker 3: great job. The game was going to exactly where he
Speaker 3: wanted it. But once again, man, we've got to manage.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I'm not gonna sit here and
Speaker 3: talk bad about play call and whatnot, but seven minutes
Speaker 3: left in the game, and you're up three, or you're
Speaker 3: up five, whatever you were up, you've got to be
Speaker 3: able to run the clock out. I sitting there talking
Speaker 3: to my daughter watching the game, and the first thing
Speaker 3: I said was time management, clock management, run the ball,
Speaker 3: try to get you know, two or three yards every
Speaker 3: play and then make them in Buffalo use timeouts when
Speaker 3: they didn't they didn't really want to, and we give
Speaker 3: up the league. And once we gave the league up,
Speaker 3: now we're forced to go fast because you know, we
Speaker 3: got to score and tie the game up or get
Speaker 3: get ourselves back in a position to win, and we
Speaker 3: didn't do it.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was mostly spectacular in this game in the snow,
Speaker 2: and to win.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you he was cool. He was cool today.
Speaker 3: Them two interceptions really hurt. And I saw someone on
Speaker 3: Facebook or social media and said that Joe Burrow lost
Speaker 3: a game for us. Come on, y'all, come on now,
Speaker 3: come on, let's let's be real here. This is Cincinnati
Speaker 3: people talking about Joe Burrow blowing the game. The guy's
Speaker 3: trying to win. The guy did not have to come
Speaker 3: back from that foot injury. He's out there taking care
Speaker 3: of his business. He said he wanted to play with
Speaker 3: a team. He belongs out there. He said, they pay
Speaker 3: him a lot of money to do what he does.
Speaker 3: And it just didn't go his way and you got
Speaker 3: to find a way to win, and we just couldn't
Speaker 3: find it today.
Speaker 2: Four touchdowns in those conditions, I know, incredible, I know
Speaker 2: he was mostly spectacular.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: But then, like you said, the wheels do fall off.
Speaker 2: And the Bengals led in this game seven to open,
Speaker 2: fourteen to three, twenty one to eleven, twenty eight to eighteen,
Speaker 2: and all I want is to stop get the ball
Speaker 2: back with a ten point.
Speaker 3: Lead, and they can't do it one stop. You know,
Speaker 3: I watched defense, I watched the linebackers. I know they're young,
Speaker 3: but they're they're always out of place, out of position.
Speaker 3: This is what what did you say when you came
Speaker 3: in here.
Speaker 2: You can't play football unless you see the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got their backs to the quarterback. You've
Speaker 3: got your back to the quarterback when the ball is
Speaker 3: being thrown. Why you think Josh Allen does what he
Speaker 3: does and throws the balls in there? If these guys
Speaker 3: just turn their heads and see the quarterback. And here's
Speaker 3: what happens to that chick. When you get down in
Speaker 3: the red zone inside the five yard line, three yard
Speaker 3: line and you're on first and goal, third and go
Speaker 3: whatever it may be. You become like a man, the
Speaker 3: man on the receiver that you're guarding. It's like playing basketball.
Speaker 3: You follow him wherever he goes and see where the
Speaker 3: ball is coming. And what do we do. We have
Speaker 3: our backs to the quarterback. We have no idea the
Speaker 3: ball's being thrown and that touchdown. Josh Allen had eight
Speaker 3: nine seconds to throw the ball. And when he threw
Speaker 3: the ball, it was right past the defender's ear. If
Speaker 3: the defender turns his head, he might even just reach
Speaker 3: out and grab that with his own mouth, not just
Speaker 3: his hand.
Speaker 2: An astounding stat. The Bengals are two and five this season,
Speaker 2: scoring thirty three or more points.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: The rest of the league fifty two and one.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's unbelievable. That is not supposed to happen, not
Speaker 3: with this kind of football team that we got here
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. I think we're off to a flying start here.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to become that word bengalized.
Speaker 3: Win. Ain't heard that in a long time.
Speaker 2: When all the life gets sucked out of you, I mean,
Speaker 2: let's look at it here. The Bengals have fallen to
Speaker 2: four and nine on the season. Pittsburgh beats Baltimore at
Speaker 2: Baltimore to go to seven and six. So the Bengals
Speaker 2: are three games back with four games to go, and
Speaker 2: I KNOWE Joe and the rest of the Bengals were
Speaker 2: secretly hoping that Baltimore wouldn't win because Baltimore comes in
Speaker 2: here next week.
Speaker 3: Yes, but now the mountain becomes even steeper.
Speaker 2: Three games out, four games to go, we split with
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh so it's gonna be a tough sled.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough one, man. But I saw
Speaker 3: something where there's there's still a shot. I mean, a
Speaker 3: team can win this division at nine and eight, nine
Speaker 3: and eight or eight, whatevere, eight and nine. It can happen.
Speaker 3: It could happen because Pittsburgh still hasn't played Detroit, Baltimore
Speaker 3: hasn't play these teams, so everybody still has an opportunity
Speaker 3: to make something happen. But today was the flator man.
Speaker 3: I knew when they were up fourteen to three, I said,
Speaker 3: if they can just hold on, they got a shot,
Speaker 3: and they kept answering the bell. But then when it
Speaker 3: was time, I just feel like we just don't have
Speaker 3: that killer when it's time to go get it done.
Speaker 3: You saw Buffalo today. When Buffalo was down, they were
Speaker 3: hunt they were hunting the Bengals up. They were hunting them,
Speaker 3: they were going after them. We just don't have that
Speaker 3: that finish, if that's the word to use that word.
Speaker 3: We don't have that finish. We just like let people
Speaker 3: hang around if we can get that finish, and that
Speaker 3: finish could come right before half. We had the ball
Speaker 3: right before half. We scored touchdown right there, put points
Speaker 3: on the board. We're really putting them in a hole
Speaker 3: and we couldn't do anything with that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. We'll come back and take
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Speaker 2: with your hosts Chick lood Within alongside Faux Rock David Folcher,
Speaker 2: who has his family here tonight, and we're having a
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Speaker 2: Amber is our server. We really appreciate her and all
Speaker 2: the fine folks right here at Wings and Rings. Well,
Speaker 2: let's go out to the phones. Bengals lose thirty nine
Speaker 2: to thirty four. Just another game where they score thirty
Speaker 2: plus points and lose.
Speaker 3: I'm fired up, Rock, I am too. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: come out of retirement, but I know I can't. I
Speaker 3: wish I could, though. Hey is a pat in Redding there?
Speaker 5: Yes, I am Hey, I Pati.
Speaker 6: Tell your wife, I said, Hi, I met her last
Speaker 6: year after one of the games.
Speaker 7: Is you so so very nice?
Speaker 3: Will?
Speaker 6: I have all kinds of things I want to talk about.
Speaker 6: First of all, we were wondering about pe Higgins. We
Speaker 6: were absolutely.
Speaker 8: Stop that he came back in the game after two
Speaker 8: of those bad things that looked like concussion or that
Speaker 8: they could have been a concussion, And we were noticing that.
Speaker 8: You know, when he came back in, he was bobbling
Speaker 8: the passes, even the ones that he caught.
Speaker 5: Did you notice that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. I actually thought that he wasn't going
Speaker 3: to come back. I thought maybe the concussions were taking
Speaker 3: their toll. But they put him in the blue tent.
Speaker 3: They did the necessary to see if this concussion was there,
Speaker 3: and he qualified to come back. He does double catch
Speaker 3: a lot of balls without a concussion. He does a
Speaker 3: lot of double catching. Balls don't stick to his hands
Speaker 3: like it does Chase, So Higgins does a lot of
Speaker 3: double catching balls. But you know today, you know he
Speaker 3: gutted it out, you know, because I still think that
Speaker 3: he was a little you know, a little cuckoo for
Speaker 3: Coca Puss. You know, he was a little bit dizzy,
Speaker 3: but he but he played and he said it. He said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to war with my teammates and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 6: Yep, that last catch was absolutely incredible. And here's another question.
Speaker 6: Do the reps refuse to call interference when somebody is
Speaker 6: clearly pulling on their arms?
Speaker 3: They I'm i'm gonna tell you, I'll tell you. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you why. I don't think they called passing aference
Speaker 3: on that one. It is because he caught it. If
Speaker 3: he doesn't catch that football, I think they're gonna throw
Speaker 3: the flag out because he only had one hand to
Speaker 3: grab the ball, and I didn't see a flag, so
Speaker 3: they should have. They should have thrown the flag no
Speaker 3: matter what.
Speaker 6: H Now, another thing about our defense. I think, of
Speaker 6: course the defense lost the game for us again.
Speaker 5: But again I'm watching.
Speaker 6: In the third quarter, the defense got a sack of
Speaker 6: Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: For about three yards.
Speaker 6: They started celebrating like they had just won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: and then we're going leave there. What down was that
Speaker 6: was that third bout? No, it was first down, and
Speaker 6: then of course they marched down the field and that's
Speaker 6: the drive where luckily he fumbled the.
Speaker 5: Ball and we recovered it.
Speaker 6: But isn't that a lack of maturity?
Speaker 3: That's one thing, Pat, I mean, that's one thing that
Speaker 3: I as a former player, and I understand that we
Speaker 3: all get excited, but I hate to see guys celebrate
Speaker 3: dancing and jumping around and you're losing by a touchdown
Speaker 3: or two because you made him play. A guy named
Speaker 3: Paul Brown, many many years ago told me, act like
Speaker 3: you've been there. Act like you've been there, Isaac Curtis,
Speaker 3: act like you've been there, and right, you know, if
Speaker 3: you're winning, if you're winning and you want to celebrate,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But when
Speaker 3: you're losing and you start celebrating you forget about how
Speaker 3: you got there. And that's what Paul Brown used to
Speaker 3: tell us many many years ago. And you know, the
Speaker 3: football players are different today. I can't tell guy not
Speaker 3: to dance. I can't even tell a guy today what's
Speaker 3: he doing because they don't want to hear from us
Speaker 3: old guys. I'm an old guy, Chick. I don't know
Speaker 3: what's going on. I didn't never do that. I didn't
Speaker 3: do that stuff. Yeah, so so it's it's a little tough,
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, you don't want to see
Speaker 3: your team lose. It's very frustrating because this team has
Speaker 3: so much potential, but it happens every year. This football
Speaker 3: season has been a crazy football season for everybody. Yes,
Speaker 3: players getting hurt, coaches getting fired, people getting moved around.
Speaker 3: It's just a funny football season. So hopefully we still
Speaker 3: have a shot to do some things and if other
Speaker 3: teams get there, you know, get get the losses. But
Speaker 3: once again, we should not be sitting in this position,
Speaker 3: but we are.
Speaker 2: And Pat, thank you very much. Thanks, Pat, appreciate you.
Speaker 3: It's Matt and is Matt and Springfield available?
Speaker 4: And how's it going?
Speaker 9: Chick has always you doing?
Speaker 3: Then great, great, Thanks so much, Matt. How are you
Speaker 3: no problem?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 9: I'm doing all right, brother. It's just man, this season
Speaker 9: has definitely been one for the age. It's just been
Speaker 9: cursed as we was like, man, it's like we get
Speaker 9: into position every single time to you know, take a
Speaker 9: commanding lead and games. It's happened multiple times this year,
Speaker 9: and then they make just some kind of like you
Speaker 9: pointed out earlier, Chick, it's like bungalized, we make some
Speaker 9: kind of bungled bungled move to you know, snatch defeat
Speaker 9: from the jaws of victory. That's the best way that
Speaker 9: I can put it. Because the Bengals had that game
Speaker 9: well in hand again to day. They did it all
Speaker 9: they had to know. Now milk the cloth, and they
Speaker 9: just try to get too cute. I feel like with Burrow,
Speaker 9: with them, with the screen and everything you needed it
Speaker 9: to just do what was working. They couldn't stop you
Speaker 9: up the middle. I mean the receiver receivers was getting
Speaker 9: opened up the middle all day, you know, pretty much
Speaker 9: slants and everything else. They could not stop that.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, why.
Speaker 9: Stops working to try to get cute late in the
Speaker 9: game when you know that your season is pretty much
Speaker 9: hanging in the balance, and once again, you know, they
Speaker 9: find a way to lose. And honestly, if the Bengals
Speaker 9: do lose next week, I know Burrow is a competitor,
Speaker 9: but I think maybe they should just still Joe, Hey,
Speaker 9: just go ahead and you know, pack it.
Speaker 3: Up for the year.
Speaker 9: But you know, just go ahead and pretty much loves
Speaker 9: out up that point to get a high draft pick,
Speaker 9: because this team badly needs a playmaker on the defensive
Speaker 9: side of the ball that can close the game out
Speaker 9: like a cale down to somebody like that, because right
Speaker 9: now what they have just think working they should have
Speaker 9: traded Trey Hendrickson while you still have value because he's
Speaker 9: missed half the year anyway, But I don't know. It's
Speaker 9: just frustrated, but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 9: It's football at the end of the day, and this
Speaker 9: team has a lot of holes, especially on the defensive
Speaker 9: side of the ball.
Speaker 2: But it's good talk, all right, Matt, appreciate it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: do we have days in Florida?
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3: How you doing, yes, sir? Good?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So, first of all, all these people on social media
Speaker 12: blaming Joe for the law get a life. I mean,
Speaker 12: number nine is the reason that.
Speaker 13: They put up thirty four points in the first place
Speaker 13: and had a chance to win the game.
Speaker 12: So, you know, my my question is is does this
Speaker 12: team go into next year with these two guys as
Speaker 12: a lineback as your two linebackers.
Speaker 4: I mean, the.
Speaker 12: One guy is the eighty fourth out of the eighty
Speaker 12: fourth linebacker in the league. The other guy is eighty third.
Speaker 12: You're not winning with these two guys playing linebackers. It's
Speaker 12: like playing nine again, eleven against nine every week. They're
Speaker 12: they're I mean, neither one of these guys would even
Speaker 12: be on a roster if it wasn't for us drafting
Speaker 12: them or on precice on the practice.
Speaker 2: This team needs help at all phases of the defense,
Speaker 2: no doubt, front, middle, and back.
Speaker 12: I agree, yes, well, I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree with that chick.
Speaker 14: But the rookie the rookies game, Yeah, they're terrible.
Speaker 4: They're horrible.
Speaker 12: Barry Carter may be the worst linebacker I've ever seen
Speaker 12: play football.
Speaker 3: Hey, there's a lot of people in this restaurant right
Speaker 3: now clapping about that, and I see my daughter over
Speaker 3: there clapping. You know, it does make sense. I understand.
Speaker 3: I understand the mindset of having a young athlete coming
Speaker 3: into the NFL. Because he's young, he's faster, but old
Speaker 3: age and veterans can guide those young dudes can help
Speaker 3: those young guys. Well, you know, the defensive coordinator wants youth.
Speaker 3: But when these guys are out of places. The problem
Speaker 3: is this, We've been saying this all year about missing tackles.
Speaker 3: A lot of them are out of place. They're out
Speaker 3: of place, and then when they try to get back
Speaker 3: in place, it's too late. How does a tight end
Speaker 3: on the football team their tight end? I think they
Speaker 3: had something like ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Eleven catches for one and thirty seven yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Now, those eleven catches, those two touchdowns in all those
Speaker 3: yards were not man to man. They're in zone, yes,
Speaker 3: so we're we're in zone. Where in the where are
Speaker 3: the linebackers? They're gone. So I would say that I
Speaker 3: believe that they're going to have to go into this
Speaker 3: draft and maybe not draft a young dude because they
Speaker 3: got two young guys, but they're going to have to
Speaker 3: go out there and get some veteran knowledge through our
Speaker 3: free agency, and they've got to get it now. You
Speaker 3: don't want to get it three years from now and
Speaker 3: then and then now you've got these rookies who will
Speaker 3: be four year starters. It's too late. These guys are fast,
Speaker 3: they're very aware, but they're out of place. This is
Speaker 3: not college football, this is the NFL.
Speaker 2: What drove me crazy is a stunt from your left hand,
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. Miles Murphy stunts inside, leaping the whole right
Speaker 2: side of the field open for Josh Allen to run.
Speaker 3: So that's either Miles Murphy's fault or it's the other
Speaker 3: guy's fault, because if Miles goes in, somebody's got to
Speaker 3: come out exactly right. So you're basically replacing each other.
Speaker 3: They call it a stunt. Yes, I'm gonna stunt inside.
Speaker 3: This guy stunts outside. Well, Murphy and the other guy,
Speaker 3: both of them are inside. And what did Jock Allen do?
Speaker 3: He runs out there and he gets up, picks up
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of yards.
Speaker 2: Well, and like Joe said in his news conference, the
Speaker 2: final run by Josh Allen seventeen yards for the first
Speaker 2: down is the essence of that guy.
Speaker 3: And that's incredible. And that's what's been happening this whole
Speaker 3: year with this football team third down and long, third
Speaker 3: down and seventeen. You're expecting that team to punt the football,
Speaker 3: but we're not doing that. We're not getting off the
Speaker 3: field when we need to get off the field.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen ran for seventy eight yards and that's more
Speaker 2: yards than the Bengals had.
Speaker 3: As a team. Sixty two.
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Speaker 2: were down in this game by eleven, Tie Higgins catches
Speaker 2: a twenty five yard pass from Joe Burrow with Jadavious
Speaker 2: White the cornerback, Tradavius White pulling on his left arm,
Speaker 2: pulling on that. That was just a phenomenal catch by T.
Speaker 3: Great catch, and I you know, when we saw that,
Speaker 3: expecting to see the flag. If T Higgins doesn't make
Speaker 3: that catch, I'm assuming that the flag would have came
Speaker 3: out because he could not get that left arm up
Speaker 3: there to catch the ball. But what a great catch,
Speaker 3: and what a great effort from a guy who's coming
Speaker 3: off of concussion a week ago, two weeks ago, didn't
Speaker 3: play last week, plays this week. And he said it
Speaker 3: on after the game. You know, I'm a gamer. You
Speaker 3: know my job is to go out there and make
Speaker 3: plays and be part of this team. I want to
Speaker 3: see them succeed. So I'm gonna be out there. And
Speaker 3: I know the lady called earlier, Pat said that, you
Speaker 3: know when T was dropping balls, he does double catch
Speaker 3: a lot of balls. And I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: because of the concussion and things aren't clear, but the
Speaker 3: guy gained he game today and they winning that blue tent.
Speaker 3: They came back out. He did everything he's going to do.
Speaker 3: He passed it and he wants to play the same
Speaker 3: way with Joe. I thought, I thought I heard somebody
Speaker 3: say that that Joe should sitting down because the season's over. No,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's part of this franchise. He might be
Speaker 3: the franchise the franchise, but he's part of this franchise,
Speaker 3: and we're supposed to go out there and play. No
Speaker 3: matter if we're ten and two or two and ten,
Speaker 3: we still have to go out there and give an effort.
Speaker 2: And that was the delivery of the game, the twenty
Speaker 2: five yard touchdown passed from Joe Burrow to t Higgins.
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Speaker 2: who says that Joe Burrow was the reason the Bengals
Speaker 2: lost today is absolutely insane. He is a.
Speaker 3: Warrior, crazy, absolute warrior.
Speaker 2: If you listen to his postgame news conference, he talked
Speaker 2: about he rehabbed his tail off. Oh yeah, to get
Speaker 2: back here early, to get back. He loves the game,
Speaker 2: he loves the teammates, he wants to win for the city.
Speaker 2: He says all the right things. The dude is an
Speaker 2: absolute beast. He's a warrior, and thirty one other clubs would.
Speaker 3: Love to have him, oh without a doubt. I mean,
Speaker 3: I remember at one time, what team was that thinking
Speaker 3: about giving up all their draft picks for Joe Burrow?
Speaker 3: The Jets. The Jets were talking about, you know, trading.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the Jets or it
Speaker 3: was just a beat writer trying to get some attention.
Speaker 3: But the Jets will say, and they'll take Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: and give up all their draft choices. Now that just
Speaker 3: tells me that the guy's a winner. He's a gamer,
Speaker 3: you know. And the guy really got back in shape,
Speaker 3: got that foot right, because I didn't think that he
Speaker 3: would come back and touch the field at all this
Speaker 3: year and maybe not even for the finish his career plan.
Speaker 3: Because turf toes are not a joke.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 3: I've had turf toe. I've stucked my toe before and
Speaker 3: I've never had surgery on it, but I still have
Speaker 3: lingering effects from that, that jam and that toe. Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow gets his completely stitched and redone. So a little
Speaker 3: bit different when you spring an ankle compared to breaking
Speaker 3: an ankle, because when you break something, they have to
Speaker 3: go in there and completely fix it. When it's a
Speaker 3: screen or it's a snap, they'll go in there and
Speaker 3: and mess around with and tweak it so you can play.
Speaker 3: But this guy is a gamer. And for whoever thinks
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow lost this game for the Bengals need
Speaker 3: to be hall time. Doja out.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phone. So our good friend
Speaker 2: Mark and Florence.
Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, what's up, buddy?
Speaker 4: How's it going? I got a Dave. Put your question first.
Speaker 4: I want to know will he be at Radstats this year?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna be there. Man. I just got the
Speaker 3: email from uh the gentleman who puts it on, and yes,
Speaker 3: I will definitely be there. Reds fast correct.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna come and see you. But back
Speaker 4: to the game. I don't know what the down and
Speaker 4: distance was when Pearled threw that first interception, but it
Speaker 4: looked like.
Speaker 15: To me.
Speaker 4: That ball was slipping out of his hands.
Speaker 5: He didn't have a shot on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look like a shot, and he tried to push
Speaker 4: the ball up in the air over that defender. I
Speaker 4: personally think that he shouldn't have even tried to make
Speaker 4: that throw. The defender was right there.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, he was blitzing. The corner was blitzing.
Speaker 3: Joe saw the blitz. It was a hot blitz, so
Speaker 3: that means the ball's coming out quick. And I think, Joe,
Speaker 3: if you ever played golf and you swung the club
Speaker 3: and you don't really swing it, you try to guide
Speaker 3: the ball, try to guide the swing. Well, guess what
Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow tried to guide that pass instead
Speaker 3: of throwing it. And that's why the guy inters up
Speaker 3: at that ball. He saw the bits coming and you
Speaker 3: know what, if that ball goes over that guy's head,
Speaker 3: Chase tesches the football and maybe get five to ten
Speaker 3: yards because there was nobody else in near Chase on
Speaker 3: that throat.
Speaker 2: It was first in ten at Buffalo's thirty three yard
Speaker 2: line with five point thirty five to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay. And another thing that stood out to
Speaker 4: me this defense. You know they can't never stop nobody.
Speaker 4: This week they was playing a better quarterback. You knew
Speaker 4: his goal to was gonna be his tight end. You
Speaker 4: remember early in the game when they converted two fourth downs.
Speaker 4: If the Bengals get a stop on one of those
Speaker 4: fourth downs they got one later in that half, they
Speaker 4: could have put that game away early if that defense
Speaker 4: had a showed up. So I just I'm looking at
Speaker 4: at their defense, like God, just give one stop. And
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: The defense if you look, if you look at if
Speaker 3: you look at the last couple of weeks, our defense
Speaker 3: has has played better. You know, we lose the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: but we only give up so many points, and then
Speaker 3: we come back and we beat another team. We give
Speaker 3: us so many points win the game. And everything was
Speaker 3: starting to come around in the last three weeks. Twenty
Speaker 3: points was the most I think twenty sixteen and fourteen,
Speaker 3: and then we come out there today and I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: it's the thing that shocks me the most is the
Speaker 3: long conversions, the third down and sixteens, the second down
Speaker 3: and seventeen, and we give up eighteen, we give up seventeen,
Speaker 3: we give up the first down on third down and forever.
Speaker 3: That shouldn't happen. Though it should not happen, there's got
Speaker 3: to be It's gotta be somewhere in there that you
Speaker 3: say enough is enough on third down and long fourth
Speaker 3: and one, fourth and two, those are tough go ahead linebacker.
Speaker 4: Line questioned, before I'll get off the two linebackers that
Speaker 4: the Bengals have now, Dave, when you played, they played
Speaker 4: three linebackers, they had a middle linebacker and two outside linebackers.
Speaker 3: Those we we played a four to three defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those two linebackers. And you can tell me if
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. They look like they fit more if you
Speaker 4: played three linebackers, you had a middle linebacker and they
Speaker 4: played on the outside. They look like more of those
Speaker 4: type of linebackers. And my wrong. And how I'm looking
Speaker 4: at that.
Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't. I don't know if I would say
Speaker 3: that you're wrong. I just know that, Yeah, they're young,
Speaker 3: and we can blame it on young, but they're they're
Speaker 3: national football players. Now. They didn't played enough games to
Speaker 3: say they're not rookies anymore. You know, after you played
Speaker 3: three or four games, that rookie status has gone. Now, Okay,
Speaker 3: so you got these two young studs that can flat
Speaker 3: out fly, but they're they seem to be out of
Speaker 3: place a lot, meaning balls are being caught in front
Speaker 3: of him, and then when they don't drop back, balls
Speaker 3: have been called caught behind them. And today was just
Speaker 3: an absolute bismal performance. When the tight end gets the
Speaker 3: eleven catches one hundred and eighty something yards. This did
Speaker 3: not happen to tight ends. But this only happened because
Speaker 3: we're giving up fifteen twenty yards every catch on the
Speaker 3: tight end. Kind of tough, but you made great points there. Man.
Speaker 3: Appreciate your call. O.
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Mark, as always, Yes, appreciate a man.
Speaker 2: And we've got to take a break. You're listening to
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Speaker 2: bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss to the Buffalo
Speaker 2: Bills in Orchard Park, New York. And it's awesome to
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Speaker 2: alongside my partner David Fulcher. You got the Chick magnets
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Speaker 2: voltzers are here. Yeah, folks coming up saying hi to David.
Speaker 2: He gives out a free autograph.
Speaker 3: No cost, No cost autographs, man.
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Speaker 2: by the AE Door and Window Company. They sell the
Speaker 2: best and service the rest. David, four games left. You're
Speaker 2: three games out. But like you said, you remember this team.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow wants to play. You can't afford to. You're
Speaker 2: playing for your job. That's it, man, So you got
Speaker 2: to give it all you got.
Speaker 3: And chicks and Joe said that last week people, why
Speaker 3: are you playing Joe when the football season's over? He said,
Speaker 3: this is my job. They paid me a lot of
Speaker 3: money to go out there and play for a kid's game,
Speaker 3: you know, fifty fifty five million dollars worth. A guy
Speaker 3: wants to play it, but I do understand that if
Speaker 3: he comes up lame, that he's never going to be
Speaker 3: able to play or get hurt again. I can understand that,
Speaker 3: but this is this is this is not and I
Speaker 3: won't say, you know, another sport is less than football,
Speaker 3: but we're playing football. It's physical. You're supposed to go
Speaker 3: out there and hit the other guy. And if you
Speaker 3: get hurt, it's not like I'm doing it on purpose.
Speaker 3: It just happens. So for Joe Burrow to say I
Speaker 3: want to play, let him play. Absolutely, let's go after
Speaker 3: the phones. Mike in Los Angeles, Hello, Mike, are you there?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 1: Chipster?
Speaker 7: David kol Rock.
Speaker 5: How are you guys?
Speaker 3: We're good good.
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call, Jonman, I really appreciate. Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm calling you from Compton.
Speaker 16: My brother picked me up, the veteran brother, Diodnam veteran brothers.
Speaker 5: Picked me up after my surgery and brought me back. Today.
Speaker 5: We watched the Bengals game and then watched the watching
Speaker 5: the Rams game. It was awesome. So at greetings from Compton.
Speaker 3: My friend.
Speaker 2: Hey bank, a veteran bank, a veteran Pearl Harbor day.
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, in my backyard made Compton, Inglewood,
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, South Central. That's my backyard.
Speaker 16: I know it is bro I yesterday I was down
Speaker 16: and watched for a wait for one of the ladies
Speaker 16: at the books at the DA and I never had
Speaker 16: more count at the funeral in my life. The music
Speaker 16: was incredible, the food, but it was not a mummer.
Speaker 16: It was a celebration of that person's life.
Speaker 17: It was really wonderful.
Speaker 3: So what's your football question? Man?
Speaker 16: I got off the track.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Dave, if you had to rates to Uh. Well,
Speaker 7: by the way, the maybe midshipmen are gonna make the
Speaker 7: bear of cats walk the blank the gangplank and give
Speaker 7: him a burial at sea when we play in that
Speaker 7: liberty bawl. Okay, just mark my words.
Speaker 5: The shipmen are gonna whoop the.
Speaker 17: Bear catch But okay, Uh, how would you rate battle?
Speaker 4: And uh? And the stone?
Speaker 5: Would you keep them?
Speaker 10: Would you shop?
Speaker 4: What would you do today?
Speaker 3: You know? I here's the thing about battle. I think
Speaker 3: battle Battle's coming from a battle test at university when
Speaker 3: they're drafted him here so he knows he knows how
Speaker 3: to play. I just think that sometimes schemes, schemes are a
Speaker 3: little bit bigger and harder for some players. And I
Speaker 3: know when when when de coordinator came from Notre Dame,
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Defense was flying around a lot of young guys,
Speaker 3: and I think that's that was his mindset when he
Speaker 3: will on it to have these guys here, my guy,
Speaker 3: Geno Stone. You know, I've been pretty heavy on him,
Speaker 3: just excemple fact that you know he's he's missing tackles
Speaker 3: or I think a lot of it is just being
Speaker 3: on a place when you're when you're on a place,
Speaker 3: you have to work hard to get back in the place.
Speaker 3: These guys are running left and right when they don't
Speaker 3: have to. You know, I look at stuff and they
Speaker 3: run out of there really quick. Pre snap, they're fifteen
Speaker 3: to twenty yards deep. Quarterback sees that, what does he do?
Speaker 3: He throws the ball in front of him because these
Speaker 3: guys now have dropping ten yards deeper. Linebackers are not
Speaker 3: getting deep. Linebackers are short, or they're getting too deep,
Speaker 3: and they're they're all wide open. I do believe that
Speaker 3: these players are out of place. And the last couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, I'd have to give Geno stone and battle,
Speaker 3: you know somewhere around that c plus that they were
Speaker 3: playing okay. But again, it's eleven guys on defense have
Speaker 3: to do their job for all of them to be successful.
Speaker 3: If one guy is out of place, or two guys
Speaker 3: or three guys are out of place, that's hard to
Speaker 3: that's hard to make up. When teams like Buffalo, teams
Speaker 3: like Pittsburgh, teams like Baltimore are throwing the ball in
Speaker 3: the middle of the field when your guys aren't there.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen to our offense. You don't see
Speaker 3: our tight ends wide open across the middle because these
Speaker 3: guys are out of place, and that's why they rush
Speaker 3: for one hundred and eighty three yards today gashes one
Speaker 3: and eighty three yards come on.
Speaker 2: And two hundred and fifty one yards through the air.
Speaker 2: So they were very balanced, very balanced.
Speaker 3: Man. We are not.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are not balanced. They're not running the football enough.
Speaker 3: Period. What we're looking for is we're looking for Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow to win football games all the time. And if
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow doesn't win football games, if Joe Burrow doesn't
Speaker 3: throw four touchdowns like he did today, we're out. If
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow throwed, don't throw those two interceptions, we win
Speaker 3: the football game. But we want to blame that on Joe. No,
Speaker 3: we gave up thirty something points. If we don't give
Speaker 3: up the thirty something points, we got another victory in
Speaker 3: a thirty points score that we've scored. What's our what's
Speaker 3: the record of the Bengals when it comes to this
Speaker 3: year with thirty something point.
Speaker 2: Five, scoring thirty three or more points two and five.
Speaker 3: The rest of the league is fifty two and one.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, we're supposed to be part of fifty two.
Speaker 3: We're part of the We're not part of fifty two
Speaker 3: because we can't stop people from.
Speaker 2: Schooling and we've got to run. Mike and La appreciate
Speaker 2: the call. Thanks Mike. We've got Bryce, We've got Patrick,
Speaker 2: and we've got Rick. Hang on, we're coming to you next.
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Speaker 2: We're breaking down the bengals thirty nine to forty thirty
Speaker 2: four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball.
Speaker 3: Like a wrecking ball. We just got a good little
Speaker 3: kudos thumbs up from our partner, Lance mccalison listening to us.
Speaker 3: Thank you, LUs, thank you Lance. Appreciate that. Brother.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh I'm and I'm reading Lance on online. Man,
Speaker 2: he's got some strong words from UC basketball.
Speaker 3: Lance is good man, Lance is good Landae guy, He's
Speaker 3: absolutely the best.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out to the phones and welcome in
Speaker 2: my man, Bryce in Anderson.
Speaker 3: Bryce. What's going on.
Speaker 16: By Jay?
Speaker 18: Hey, David, I mean who else with the Bengals in
Speaker 18: The Bengals were in position to win today and in
Speaker 18: familiar Bengals fashion, Joe Brook there's two inter sessions on
Speaker 18: backpack offensive place. But David, as you were saying, that's
Speaker 18: not the only reason they lost. The Bengals have had
Speaker 18: a tread of Selfing's looked at errors in the fourth
Speaker 18: quarter that they really need to fix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it about the fourth quarter?
Speaker 3: David?
Speaker 2: You're supposed to finish, not to trample.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm That's what I'm saying, man. We there's something missing.
Speaker 3: We got our foot on the gas, you know, Paul Brown,
Speaker 3: I'm going back to PB's team where you got to
Speaker 3: foot down on the throat. You don't raise the foot
Speaker 3: off somehow, we just keep raising our feet up. We don't.
Speaker 3: We don't know how to We don't have that killer
Speaker 3: killedness at the end of it, the killer instinct of saying,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna we're going after you. But other teams do
Speaker 3: it to us. There's never a comfortable win. Never. Never,
Speaker 3: you're I'm holding.
Speaker 2: My breath with a fourteen point lead with two minutes
Speaker 2: to go with this club, you're right stepping on the gas,
Speaker 2: putting the foot on the throat.
Speaker 3: We don't know how to close, finish and close. Close.
Speaker 3: That's it. If we knew how to close the deal.
Speaker 3: You watch the other teams in the NFL how they
Speaker 3: closed the deal. How does the day's game become all
Speaker 3: about the tight ends for Buffalo? That shouldn't happen. I'm
Speaker 3: probably gonna be saying this until the next week is
Speaker 3: old with because it should not happen that a tight
Speaker 3: end football with the Buffalo Bills. Now we're talking, we're
Speaker 3: talking Josh Allen, we're talking a good running back and
Speaker 3: Cook and they got some tight ends, and they got
Speaker 3: wide receivers. But the tight ends are the ones who
Speaker 3: beat us today. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Thirteen targets, eleven catches, one hundred and thirty seven yards,
Speaker 2: Jowson Knox six catches for ninety three, Dalton Kincaid four
Speaker 2: catches for forty one and a touchdown, and Jackson Hawes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: one catch, three yards, touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ithoudn't happen. And you know that touchdown that he threw.
Speaker 3: Guess what there was nobody buying. All of them linebackers
Speaker 3: had their numbers facing the quarterback. You can't play football
Speaker 3: until you find the ball. If you don't find the ball, chick,
Speaker 3: those things are gonna happen. And it happened to us
Speaker 3: twice to day.
Speaker 2: Oh Josh Allen threaded the needle on that first touch,
Speaker 2: Now he did that was incredible, But.
Speaker 3: You know it was coming. I knew it was coming.
Speaker 3: I could see. I could see at the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage that the end to What about the quick passes
Speaker 3: that they ran, the quick slant, we're not even we're
Speaker 3: not even stopping that right see. And for me to
Speaker 3: get on the goal line, I've got If I'm a corner,
Speaker 3: I've got help. If I do have help on the inside.
Speaker 3: I've got ten guys inside of me. If I've got help,
Speaker 3: I'll stand outside. But when I don't have help, I
Speaker 3: gotta be head up. I can't give him a way
Speaker 3: to go outside or inside. And we give up the
Speaker 3: inside twice.
Speaker 2: And on right before James Cook's fumble in the end zone. Yes,
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals corner back in the red zone seven
Speaker 2: yards off the line of scrimmage, a quick slant inside,
Speaker 2: you're giving You're giving up a catch inside like the
Speaker 2: five yard line.
Speaker 3: You know when the rule of thumb is when you
Speaker 3: get down inside the end zone or you're on the
Speaker 3: three yard line and you stand on the goal line,
Speaker 3: you don't back up. You stand there. You make the
Speaker 3: quarterback to have a perfect throw to throw it over
Speaker 3: your head. If you back up and you're two yards
Speaker 3: in the end zone, you just gave that guy two
Speaker 3: yards to catch the ball. And that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the scheme is asking for them
Speaker 3: to do down in the red zone, but right now
Speaker 3: we're really really abysmal in bad in the red zone
Speaker 3: because we're giving up touchdowns frequently, not just won every
Speaker 3: blue moon. We're giving up seven six six six points
Speaker 3: in the red zone and it's killing us. Let's go
Speaker 3: out to the phones.
Speaker 2: Chuck is in New York, Chuck, get there, Chuck.
Speaker 3: Okay. I wonder if he's the Bill's Mafia.
Speaker 2: And I'm in touch with a member of the Bill's Mafia,
Speaker 2: the one who started it, Del Reed. I love you,
Speaker 2: great guy. We exchanged text this week. He said good
Speaker 2: luck to the Bengals, but not too much, you know.
Speaker 2: And I told him, I said, if the Bengals can't
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, Buffo, I'm rooting for the Buffalo Bill.
Speaker 3: They have unbelievable fans. They the Buffalo Bill Mafia fans,
Speaker 3: Cincinnati fans, you know, two of the greatest franchises fans
Speaker 3: in football.
Speaker 2: Driving into what is at high Mark Stadium, now it's
Speaker 2: got about ten he's had.
Speaker 3: Ten different names.
Speaker 2: Turning the corner and driving up to high Mark Stadium,
Speaker 2: You've got folks on both sides of the.
Speaker 3: Street and walk. And this was the last game into
Speaker 3: that in that stadium.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They was the last game into their
Speaker 2: new stadium. So unbelievable. But they're lined up drinking their
Speaker 2: little back blue. Oh yeah, on both sides of the street. Yeah,
Speaker 2: tailgating for Miles the awesome.
Speaker 3: They don't, they don't. They do not stop partying in
Speaker 3: Buffalo until tomorrow. Right now, they're probably gonna having a
Speaker 3: good time right now in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Do we have john in Boston.
Speaker 5: Chick David, how are you guys today?
Speaker 3: We are good. We're hanging in Johnny.
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's all we could do right after that one.
Speaker 19: That was an exhausting loss. You know, I want to
Speaker 19: get more on the defense here. Obviously, Borrow's interceptions were monumental,
Speaker 19: more of the first one than the second one. The
Speaker 19: second one was a tip. But when you look at
Speaker 19: the defense, they don't have any wide receivers Buffalo. They
Speaker 19: just Brandon Cooks, so you really never self threatened by
Speaker 19: the receivers.
Speaker 5: They sit a full job of.
Speaker 19: Covering the tight ends all game long. I mean, that
Speaker 19: should have been priority number two, after making sure Allen
Speaker 19: doesn't beat you with his legs. The Patriots beat the
Speaker 19: Bills earlier when the season held them to twenty points
Speaker 19: in Buffaloes. They're only lost in the last two plus
Speaker 19: seasons because they were so disciplined on the pass rush
Speaker 19: that there weren't lanes for.
Speaker 5: Him to run.
Speaker 19: If you have a choice of Josh Allen sitting in
Speaker 19: the pocket and picking you apart or running, let him
Speaker 19: try to pick you apart. I don't think he could
Speaker 19: have a seven eight nine play drive like Burrow does
Speaker 19: where they go down and meticulously.
Speaker 3: Advance the ball once you open up the running lanes.
Speaker 19: For him, it's total chaos and then that fan base
Speaker 19: goes not that forty one.
Speaker 3: Yards down run.
Speaker 19: For me, it was the biggest play of the game
Speaker 19: because you're up ten. He does that, the crowd goes
Speaker 19: n year only down three, the sidelines going nothing. It's
Speaker 19: like faith goes up. At to that point, it played
Speaker 19: pretty garden. They're perfect and they only had a three
Speaker 19: point lead.
Speaker 2: Cedrick Johnson rushed the quarterback but went right casting.
Speaker 3: See that vacated a.
Speaker 2: Area and Josh Allen runs a forty yard touchdown.
Speaker 3: You know what do we talk about? Angles? Angles and angles,
Speaker 3: blocking and tackling, throwing and catching angles. So you got
Speaker 3: two guys rushing, you got one lineman. He's gotta grab
Speaker 3: one of them, and he grabs the inside guy and
Speaker 3: the outside guy. You gotta slow down. You can't. You're
Speaker 3: trying to get in there and make this kill shot.
Speaker 3: We need short tacklers with smart instincts. When you start,
Speaker 3: when you're free, you gotta break down. You can't just
Speaker 3: run in there like a wrecking ball, thinking you're gonna
Speaker 3: tackle this quarterback. And Josh Allen is not your typical quarterback.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen will bring it to you. He's not getting down,
Speaker 3: so you have to slow down to make a short tackle.
Speaker 3: And we didn't do it.
Speaker 2: And if you run past him, you're dead.
Speaker 3: You're dead. You're dead. And you saw him running down
Speaker 3: the field and our dB, the dB is covering the receiver.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, the ball it ain't came there yet.
Speaker 3: Can you turn your head to see what's going on? Oh,
Speaker 3: the quarterback's running running, Go make a play. He's still
Speaker 3: running down the field, running with the wide receiver. And
Speaker 3: that just tells me is that we're not there. We're
Speaker 3: not all there. We're focused on one thing, covering that receiver.
Speaker 3: When the quarterback is running free for sixty yards and
Speaker 3: he's coming towards you just stop, turn around and go
Speaker 3: make a tackle. It's tough.
Speaker 19: It's having a third and fifteen run by Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm.
Speaker 19: This is going to be an eighteen yard run. Well
Speaker 19: was it an eighteen yard run? It was no surprise
Speaker 19: because again and.
Speaker 3: You knew it was coming. You knew it was coming. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the essence of Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: What a what a beast. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Nine carries, seventy eight yards. Yeah, Josh Allen is a
Speaker 3: quarterback and running back and one tight end and one body.
Speaker 3: The guy was not flown. He will not fall down.
Speaker 3: He's going to challenge you if if you don't hit him,
Speaker 3: he's gonna continue to keep doing that to you. So
Speaker 3: if I'm the defensive guy on defense, I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to hurt you, Josh, but you're gonna you're gonna feel
Speaker 3: thirty three all day, you know. And if he keeps
Speaker 3: running the ball you hit him, that is not your
Speaker 3: fault that he's a quarterback trying to be a running back.
Speaker 3: You knock his head off. And these guys won't do it. Man,
Speaker 3: They're gonna spy him. Can you spy? Let me tell
Speaker 3: you something. Every time the Bengals play football, I don't
Speaker 3: care who it is. Next week is Baltimore Ravens. You
Speaker 3: spy a guy? You put a linebacker right there? Five
Speaker 3: six yards off the line of scrimmage and his job,
Speaker 3: his solo job, is to make sure that that quarterback
Speaker 3: does not get out of that pocket and take off running.
Speaker 3: If you don't do that, you're gonna lose. And then
Speaker 3: you got Lamar Jackson come in here next week. The
Speaker 3: same thing is gonna happen if you do not have
Speaker 3: a spy there, Despy, that guy he's gonna beat you
Speaker 3: with his feet.
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Speaker 2: He's David Folter and we've got Fulter's Vultures Fulters. This
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig. There might be a couple of magnets
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 3: Magnetig magazine here, but we are talking Bengals football, wall
Speaker 3: to wall. Great to have four.
Speaker 2: Time All American David Folter from Arizona State University with
Speaker 2: us a truly legend strip Yes, sir, that's right. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, let's go out to the phones. We've got
Speaker 2: Chuck is back from New York.
Speaker 3: Chuck.
Speaker 2: Are you and the Bills Mafia?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 10: I've been a Bengals fan my whole life. What I'm
Speaker 10: mad about it his chick is uh.
Speaker 20: You know, when it comes down to Bill's Bengals, this
Speaker 20: is Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, r lead.
Speaker 20: Versus dear elite and narly played.
Speaker 10: Better than our lead. There's the only way to describe it.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, Josh Allen is a monster, and like David said,
Speaker 2: he is a combination quarterback, running back, line, h back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's everything. He's everything. Joe Burrow is a warrior.
Speaker 10: Joe Burrows are everything to.
Speaker 3: See. If if if I'm and I'm watching Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: I'm watching what the Buffalo Bills do with Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, if you were watching him when he scrambles,
Speaker 3: he fakes the ball like he's going to throw it
Speaker 3: a lot and people jump, Well, you're supposed to stay
Speaker 3: on your feet. You don't go for the faith. If
Speaker 3: he throws the ball and you stay on your feet,
Speaker 3: you run through him and you make a tackle. If
Speaker 3: he jumps and throws the ball, or like he's gonna
Speaker 3: jump and throw the ball and he doesn't throw it,
Speaker 3: then you got a chance to make the good tackle.
Speaker 3: I don't know why people don't spy him. You know,
Speaker 3: I know this sounds crazy because you're gonna wind up
Speaker 3: having it.
Speaker 10: I agree, but I agree.
Speaker 20: I think that like when when we throwed up the
Speaker 20: game did here at the beginning of teas, it was
Speaker 20: Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen was just
Speaker 20: simply better.
Speaker 3: See I beg the difference when I hear people say
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen, because Joe Burrow is throwing
Speaker 3: against the Buffalo Bill's defense, not Josh Allen. Josh Allen
Speaker 3: is playing against the Bengals defense, not Joe Burrow. So
Speaker 3: when when Josh, when Josh Allen wins the game, you
Speaker 3: can't get in say Joe Burrow, you lost the game
Speaker 3: because Josh Allen beat you. No, the defense didn't stop
Speaker 3: Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Two great quarterbacks. And that's the beauty of the NFL,
Speaker 2: that different.
Speaker 3: Styles, different styles. Well, that one was better because the
Speaker 3: other side of the ball let him do what he
Speaker 3: wanted to do and the other one didn't. Them two
Speaker 3: interceptions that Joe threw, now I know those were bad
Speaker 3: interceptions and Joe wish you had him back, But it
Speaker 3: wasn't Josh Allen intercepting Joe Burrow. It was the defense
Speaker 3: and they lined it up for Joe, for Josh Allen
Speaker 3: or Joe Burrow to make a play or not make
Speaker 3: a play. So I know when it comes up and
Speaker 3: I see people go Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen, well,
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Burrow is a quarterback for us and
Speaker 3: Josh was the quarterback of Buffalo. But they still got
Speaker 3: to make plays and the defense got to stop him.
Speaker 20: I think the game was I think the game was
Speaker 20: lost in the first half when Burrow was scrambling around
Speaker 20: and he couldn't connect with Tea because you know, the
Speaker 20: defense as bad as it is.
Speaker 3: For us, that that play right there, I'll tell you
Speaker 3: you've got a field goal. You're correct that play first
Speaker 3: exactly when Higgins dropped the ball, like, I think those
Speaker 3: were the two key players that of that game. The
Speaker 3: play that Joe scrambled and he threw back across his
Speaker 3: body and he just threw the ball over t Higgins.
Speaker 3: That was a big play. If Joe connects that play,
Speaker 3: that's an opportunity for them to either go down and
Speaker 3: kick a field goal or go down score a touchdown.
Speaker 3: And those are the plays that other teams are making
Speaker 3: on us. If you're talking about the end of the half. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when Joe overthrew team and he was wide open and
Speaker 3: it was just dropping to him, you know, and adrenaline,
Speaker 3: throw the ball too hard, you're.
Speaker 10: Moving and what happened to get open? But it was
Speaker 10: just a mess. Yah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, you can't get them all and
Speaker 3: and for fortunate for us today we had an opportunity.
Speaker 3: Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2: That's a lot Chuck. Yes, we've got John and Independence.
Speaker 2: Hey John, Hello, fellas, where are you John?
Speaker 3: We're good.
Speaker 5: I'm good man considering the loss.
Speaker 12: I'm a lifer, man.
Speaker 7: I love the Bangles.
Speaker 3: Same here, man, You're not same here in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you got me beat by a few years.
Speaker 5: You guys do a tremendous show. I think I tuned
Speaker 5: in a lot and thank you for that.
Speaker 3: But you're welcome.
Speaker 2: A lot of people driving a lot of people driving
Speaker 2: back home. They're listening. So I appreciate. We appreciate each
Speaker 2: and every listener every day from sea to Shining Sea
Speaker 2: and beyond.
Speaker 10: Yep, yeah, you guys are great. Thank you.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 13: I thought it was a comment today. I thought, you know,
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor has a Porsche referring to the Bengals team.
Speaker 5: Why is he being out driven by the other people.
Speaker 10: Along the road?
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that one.
Speaker 2: Why is he being driven off the road if he's
Speaker 2: got a Porsche?
Speaker 20: Okay, he's got as a team is what I'm what
Speaker 20: I'm comparing with.
Speaker 10: Okay, he's got a Porsche.
Speaker 5: This is a fantastic team.
Speaker 10: Both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5: They do make mistakes, we all do.
Speaker 17: But Beth Taylor has a Porsche for his vehic and.
Speaker 13: Every other vehicle on the road is driving better and
Speaker 13: faster than they're winning. Why aren't we winning when we
Speaker 13: have a Porsche As a team.
Speaker 2: The Bengals cannot close, They cannot close the deal. They
Speaker 2: had the opportunity today with a ten point lead with
Speaker 2: eight minutes and forty four seconds to go, and then
Speaker 2: two interceptions happened.
Speaker 3: Yep, Now we're behind. No, I agree, I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is if if we're going to put
Speaker 3: vehicles in place of saying this should happen. If we're
Speaker 3: a poors, we're We're not. We're not. We're not putting
Speaker 3: our foot down on the gas pedal.
Speaker 2: The defense was a mash rambler and it got run
Speaker 2: over by a runaway.
Speaker 3: Train in the second half. In the fourth quarter, a
Speaker 3: lot of four by four is on that on that
Speaker 3: other team just ran right on top of us. All
Speaker 3: we gotta do is make up. You know, when you
Speaker 3: look at it, Chick, it's it's it's a play here
Speaker 3: and a play there. Yeah, it's not like it's fifteen
Speaker 3: plays throughout the game that that are. It's a play
Speaker 3: here of play there. Third down. Offensively, we were at
Speaker 3: one time, I'm not mistaken we were. We finished the
Speaker 3: game I think nine of eleven or eight ten on
Speaker 3: third down eight eight eighty eight percent eighty percent third
Speaker 3: down and you don't win the game. Tells me something
Speaker 3: wrong and we're missing something somewhere else. So somebody's got
Speaker 3: to step up and make a play, or this whole
Speaker 3: team needs to step up and make a play. And
Speaker 3: for some reason, man, we just don't know how to
Speaker 3: close the door. I hear, I hear, I hear our
Speaker 3: our our radio broadcast and uh Dave Lapping and Dan
Speaker 3: Horde coffin nails, coffin nails. Well we forgot the hammer, yep,
Speaker 3: because we can't we can't nail put the nail in
Speaker 3: the coffin if we don't do our job. And right
Speaker 3: now we're not doing our job enough. And Johnny, we
Speaker 3: got to run. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: How about thanks, thank you very much. How about Johnny
Speaker 2: and West Carrollton? Is that right, Johnny?
Speaker 3: Is he there? How about Hello?
Speaker 2: Help?
Speaker 3: Hey? Is this Johnny?
Speaker 10: Hello?
Speaker 3: Who do you got talk to us?
Speaker 21: Man?
Speaker 17: We hear you.
Speaker 4: Church?
Speaker 3: Question?
Speaker 14: Is louping his asshof right now?
Speaker 3: Is Lou laughing?
Speaker 7: Well, if he laughing his asshof right now?
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily they just lost their quarterback. They just
Speaker 3: lost in the quarterback. They probably not laughing, but I will
Speaker 3: say that he's probably saying it wasn't my fault in
Speaker 3: Cincinnati because I got a team in the Inannapolis. Boy,
Speaker 3: my defense is playing well.
Speaker 20: Alabama could put points on us right now. Come on, now,
Speaker 20: our defense is terrible.
Speaker 4: Come on the.
Speaker 10: Face this David Polcher, you're a defensive guy.
Speaker 3: Talk to me now. No, I've said it earlier, Man,
Speaker 3: I've said it earlier.
Speaker 15: Man.
Speaker 3: Our defense is they're suspect. You know, we're I think
Speaker 3: we're out of place. I know, I know we missed tackles,
Speaker 3: but but I would say that, you know you you
Speaker 3: you've got to find a way to make it happen. Man,
Speaker 3: you got eleven guys on defense. They need to have
Speaker 3: that close, closed door meeting. They probably did already, but
Speaker 3: somehow we're not We're not consistent enough. You know, you're
Speaker 3: gonna give him some first downs, you're gonna give up
Speaker 3: a catch, you're gonna give up a run, But you
Speaker 3: can't keep giving up five or six or seven of
Speaker 3: those throughout a game and expect to win. Thank you, man,
Speaker 3: Thanks for carling.
Speaker 2: Zach, you for calling Yes, sir, we've got we've got
Speaker 2: Mike and Norwood.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, how about no everybody?
Speaker 3: Did you like call cool and calm?
Speaker 14: He what a game we played against the best team
Speaker 14: in the WEFC, and we gave him a run for
Speaker 14: the money for the show, and fortunately.
Speaker 17: We lost, but it was a good game.
Speaker 14: And I just want to point out that when fifty eight.
Speaker 14: Osiah knocked the scrambling numbers of that dude at the
Speaker 14: one yard line and he fumbled and should have been
Speaker 14: a touchback, and that would.
Speaker 4: Have changed his school.
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, I appreciate the call. We've got to
Speaker 2: take a break. We're live at Wings and Rings to
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Speaker 2: DJ Turner knocking the ball out of the grasp of
Speaker 2: James cook Yes, and it's squirts loose in the end
Speaker 2: zone and linebacker or in Burks yep, chucks on it yep.
Speaker 2: And that started a big time drive for the Bengals.
Speaker 3: And those are the opportunities that this defense can take
Speaker 3: and have little chance is to give it back to
Speaker 3: an offense that was clicking. This offense was on fire today.
Speaker 3: They were doing exactly what they wanted to do against Buffalo.
Speaker 3: It's just that we just don't do enough to close
Speaker 3: the door.
Speaker 2: And that's why it was twenty one to eighteen, James
Speaker 2: Cooks getting ready to go into the end zone give
Speaker 2: Buffalo a lead. And when the Bengals got that ball
Speaker 2: with the twenty yard line, I said, here we go.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm starting to feel pretty good about a
Speaker 2: dub today.
Speaker 3: And I felt the same way man when they were
Speaker 3: up fourteen three, I said, you know what if they
Speaker 3: can just maintain yeah, what they're doing, And they did
Speaker 3: that first three drives, three touchdowns, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you gotta make some adjustments, and that's what Buffalo did
Speaker 3: to slow them down a little bit. And then we
Speaker 3: can't get the ball in the end home for another
Speaker 3: quarter and a half.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones, Jim in the great
Speaker 2: state of Arkansas?
Speaker 3: Are you there, Jim?
Speaker 11: I am here.
Speaker 10: Thank you for holding, but not a problem.
Speaker 11: I'm glad I finally they can pick up W L
Speaker 11: W because I kind of lost it touch with everything
Speaker 11: on the way down. But a couple of things, Uh,
Speaker 11: I've coached a little bit in my life high school.
Speaker 11: And you're talking about the linebackers and what I see, David,
Speaker 11: and you know better than me, I believe it looks
Speaker 11: like our linebackers are setting up too deep and our
Speaker 11: defensive backs are setting up too shallow. So it looks
Speaker 11: like the linebackers got to get turned around and to
Speaker 11: get their feet tangled up because they want to back.
Speaker 11: They want to back battle instead of a slide and sideways.
Speaker 11: And what upset me to boast about it is I
Speaker 11: listened to Ken and Brew this morning, and the guy
Speaker 11: that he has on there every week to forecast the
Speaker 11: games and whatever, he said that the Fingals are terrible
Speaker 11: at covering the tied ends and that's would be the
Speaker 11: down fall. And that's exactly what happened. So this guy
Speaker 11: knows it, why can't we stop it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: And Dan Horde during the broadcast, the voice of the
Speaker 2: Bengals gave this stat that the Bengals are the worst
Speaker 2: team in the league covering the tight ends. They're giving
Speaker 2: up ninety three point four yards.
Speaker 3: A game to the titles tight end. Wow, that's a hun. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's bad. That's really bad. And you know, strong safeties,
Speaker 3: free safeties. They switched on a movement and guy goes
Speaker 3: in motion, this guy goes up, this guy go back.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna see safeties playing man and man on
Speaker 3: tight ends. Most linebackers don't play man and man on
Speaker 3: tight ends. They play man and man on the running
Speaker 3: backs coming out of the backfield. But every time I
Speaker 3: look up and I see our defense, and I'm not
Speaker 3: I guess I'm kind of overwhelmed and I'm tired of
Speaker 3: seeing how bad they are. You see their backs, but
Speaker 3: you see their backs when I when I watched them,
Speaker 3: they especially in the red zone, in the end zone.
Speaker 3: You know they're playing zone and the end zone. Okay,
Speaker 3: so when they're plan zoning the end zone, it's hard
Speaker 3: to cover a guy plans on because you don't know
Speaker 3: where he's going. But when you get inside the five
Speaker 3: yard line and it's a pass play, you've become It
Speaker 3: becomes man to man. Now on the receiver, tight end, receiver,
Speaker 3: running back. But you can't turn your back to the
Speaker 3: quarterback because when you turn your back to the quarterback.
Speaker 3: It happened to us in the Jets game. It happened
Speaker 3: to us in the Bears game. All of our touchdowns
Speaker 3: that we've been giving up late in the game are
Speaker 3: having defensive backs with their backs to the quarterback. You
Speaker 3: don't know what the guy's doing. That touchdown that johnsh
Speaker 3: Allen threw to that receiver, a linebacker was right in
Speaker 3: his face, but he was looking at the receiver and
Speaker 3: the balls coming right behind him. If he just turns
Speaker 3: his head and look back. He either intercept the ball
Speaker 3: or knock it down. And we to me, that's coaching.
Speaker 3: That's teaching.
Speaker 2: Well you're teaching. If that's what you're teaching, is bad.
Speaker 2: That was the touchdown to Shakir one of their wide receivers.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, come on, now, the linebacker's not playing
Speaker 3: man and man on the receiver, but he's playing zone.
Speaker 3: But if you're playing zone and you got your back
Speaker 3: to the quarterback, you have no idea what's coming. You're right.
Speaker 3: The long run touchdown that he had, the long touchdown
Speaker 3: that Josh Allen had, the defensive back was looking at
Speaker 3: the receiver as they were running down the field. After
Speaker 3: five or ten yards and running with the receiver, something's happening.
Speaker 3: Turn your head and try to find the ball to
Speaker 3: see what's going on. You turn around, you make a
Speaker 3: tackle on Josh Fallen, and maybe there's an opportunity to
Speaker 3: keep them from scoring a touchdown or kick a field goal. Tough.
Speaker 11: What I've seen a couple of times is when a
Speaker 11: quarterback takes off once he crosses that line of scrimmage,
Speaker 11: there's no need for you to keep covering that receiver.
Speaker 11: You've got to go back, like you said, and make
Speaker 11: to tackle me. But I've correct too many times many.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. Why you're listening
Speaker 3: and you see this? Is this a is this a
Speaker 3: is this a coach? Is this coaching? Or was this player?
Speaker 3: Because if you're teaching me how to play football or
Speaker 3: in a system, I shouldn't be coached to keep my
Speaker 3: back away from the quarterback. So what are these guys
Speaker 3: doing and where they're getting that from?
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's that's Yeah, that you know it because
Speaker 11: those are basics, David. Those are basics.
Speaker 3: That is that's the stuff that we teaching. That's the
Speaker 3: stuff we teaching Pop Warner football. That's the stuff we
Speaker 3: teach in high school and college. And when you get
Speaker 3: to the professional rankings, you should know what to do.
Speaker 2: And Jim and Jim we got to run.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the call. All right, take care of
Speaker 2: Donald in Nashville.
Speaker 3: Donald, are you there, yes, sir?
Speaker 10: Thank you?
Speaker 5: Everything gonna call, yes, sir.
Speaker 15: But I just wanted just to make up of comments
Speaker 15: about the game today.
Speaker 5: I guess I've got some questions.
Speaker 15: That the morning answers. I guess number one, do you
Speaker 15: do we still have an outside chance of getting.
Speaker 3: In the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a really a good chance.
Speaker 2: And then number two, three games out with four to go,
Speaker 2: there is still there's still a chance.
Speaker 3: Yep, there's still a chance because that we still got
Speaker 3: to play Baltimore, Pittsburgh, still got to play some teams
Speaker 3: that we've already played. So there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: that can happen. Being down three three games with four
Speaker 3: left to play, we put it this way, today would
Speaker 3: have been a perfect day for us to keep the playoffs,
Speaker 3: hope alive with a serious opportunity. But that window of opportunity,
Speaker 3: as we talk about here, that window was starting to close,
Speaker 3: if it's not already closed. But they just got to
Speaker 3: go out and play. I mean, it's football. You gotta battle.
Speaker 3: If you don't battle, then you shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 15: But another question I asked was do you think that
Speaker 15: Zach has lost the way to get in contact with
Speaker 15: the players of making them stepped up.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a pretty good question. I don't know if
Speaker 3: Zach has lost what's going on because I think it's
Speaker 3: more to me. I've never blamed anything on a coach.
Speaker 3: It's my job to do what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Chick and I are on radio right now doing our job.
Speaker 3: I got a text from wild Man Walker, how you
Speaker 3: doing homes He was talking about the Bengals and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, and if Chick and I don't do our job,
Speaker 3: they're gonna find replacements. Yes, And when they find replacements,
Speaker 3: that replacement better be better than Chicken David, because if they're not,
Speaker 3: they're gonna bring David and Chick back. So when I'm
Speaker 3: looking at this football team and what Zach had four
Speaker 3: or five years ago, it doesn't look the same. You've
Speaker 3: changed the defensive coordinators, You've changed players in and out,
Speaker 3: because that's what the football. It's a care sale. You
Speaker 3: go from one team to the next team, and you're
Speaker 3: trying to audition for another team just in case you
Speaker 3: get released or cut from one team. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say he doesn't have the player's attention,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't look like it did three or four
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 15: My last question with y'all is is Henderson is he
Speaker 15: coming back or is he done for the year.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I don't know. Man, whatever is back,
Speaker 3: his back is bothering him. I did see the hit
Speaker 3: that when it happened that lineman came out of nowhere
Speaker 3: and just dusted him in the back and he wasn't
Speaker 3: ready for it. But I'm not He walked off the field,
Speaker 3: So why is he not playing? With all the therapy
Speaker 3: and all the stuff that the NFL and the players
Speaker 3: got to day, they can go in there right now
Speaker 3: and rub a wand on his back and he should
Speaker 3: be playing on Sunday nine. So twenty nine million dollars
Speaker 3: that pays. He's coming in and he is not complaining.
Speaker 3: Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2: We appreciate st we got to run.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Jesse in Forest Park, Jesse, are you there? How about
Speaker 2: Mike and Cherry Grove?
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing?
Speaker 3: We are good hanging in here?
Speaker 5: Oh good?
Speaker 4: Heay.
Speaker 5: Just a couple of things. When you play, Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: I think give your number one priority is to have
Speaker 5: somebody filling lane so he can't run the way he does. Now,
Speaker 5: he's a good player, but there was nobody, I mean
Speaker 5: nobody in his way. And look, you were talking about
Speaker 5: a spy or whatever. You gotta do something to cut
Speaker 5: off the channels, don't you.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that. Well, I'll tell you this here, man.
Speaker 3: We had a spy. We had a spy on this
Speaker 3: team a couple of years ago. We had a spiral
Speaker 3: and to seem a couple of years ago, and his
Speaker 3: name was Mike Hilton. Mike Hilton was standing there. He's
Speaker 3: five foot seven, you know, one hundred and eighty pounds.
Speaker 3: But Mike Hilton can run, he can make sure tackles. Well,
Speaker 3: this defensive coordinator didn't want Mike Hilton. He's too small.
Speaker 3: But this guy plays. He made plays. So if I'm
Speaker 3: saying that I need somebody to chase the quarterback around
Speaker 3: like Josh Allen, I'm making a phone call to bring
Speaker 3: Mike Hilton back. If I don't have a Mike Hilton
Speaker 3: on my team, somebody's gotta be Mike Hilton for me
Speaker 3: to do what I need to get done. Because you know,
Speaker 3: Josh Allen is gonna run first. And that's what people
Speaker 3: don't realize about Josh Allen. As much as Josh Allen
Speaker 3: throws the ball and he's got all these touchdowns, he
Speaker 3: really wants to run the football first before throw the ball.
Speaker 3: He's got the most because that dude is so strong
Speaker 3: that he is gonna run through people. So that means
Speaker 3: I got to have somebody be married to him all
Speaker 3: through the game. Wherever he goes, you go.
Speaker 19: Your number one priority against ten is to stop the runs.
Speaker 5: You gotta make the second thing.
Speaker 17: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The Bengals were gashing them all over the field. Casecki's
Speaker 5: catching balls. Everything's looking great. You're at the thirty something
Speaker 5: yard line first and ten, and you throw a little
Speaker 5: swing pass out for the right.
Speaker 3: Why don't you go for the juggler.
Speaker 5: Now, Chase may have been open, maybe he might have
Speaker 5: picked up some yards, But how many screens did they
Speaker 5: throw today?
Speaker 4: Was that the only one?
Speaker 5: I mean, throw the ball down the field because they
Speaker 5: haven't stopped you. I don't understand why.
Speaker 3: That play call was made at that moment.
Speaker 4: Do you agree with you?
Speaker 15: Know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I said the same thing.
Speaker 3: Here we are, we're up four points, three points, I
Speaker 3: don't know what we were up five minutes left in
Speaker 3: the game. We got the football, run the ball, make
Speaker 3: make make them stop my running game. If they can't
Speaker 3: stop the running game, we run the clock out. Games
Speaker 3: over and we come home happy. Bengals up three, but
Speaker 3: we're up. We're up three with a chance, and.
Speaker 2: You're on Buffalo's thirty three yard line first down.
Speaker 3: Come on, y'all, I mean, come on, they don't take
Speaker 3: a rocket scientist to fix this. It doesn't.
Speaker 5: I mean we We've got a running back that can
Speaker 5: pound the ball. The guy's a beat, give him the ball,
Speaker 5: take a three yards, stay ahead of the chain, and
Speaker 5: finish the game. You know, I just I thought that
Speaker 5: play call was stupid and get hurt.
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, all right, thanks so much. No, that
Speaker 3: makes it, makes it makes sense, chick. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know p Ryan. You know, as much as I love
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, I love Peter Ryan. I love them both.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a good one to two combination. You
Speaker 3: got the bruiser and you got the gifted guy that
Speaker 3: can run the ball. But we we we we try
Speaker 3: to at this think. We try to create stuff that's
Speaker 3: not there. Don't create something, don't fix it. If it's
Speaker 3: not broke, run the ball, beat them up, make Buffalo
Speaker 3: do something to stop you. And if they don't stop you,
Speaker 3: you win the football game. With the pounding on the ground.
Speaker 2: It's French pastry versus meeting potatoes.
Speaker 3: We want the meeting potatoes, don't we we want to
Speaker 3: meet potatoes man, but they're not serving that today. But
Speaker 3: they're not serving the meeting potatoes man, we can't eat it.
Speaker 3: He just likes the French pastry. He likes the pastries.
Speaker 3: The ball in the air, he likes the ball in
Speaker 3: the are. He wants to see his quarterback, Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: throw for full five hundred yards and full touchdowns. But
Speaker 3: you know what, man, I would take a win with
Speaker 3: my running back rushing for one hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 3: two hundred yards. And then look at Chase Chasing. They
Speaker 3: have a lot of catches.
Speaker 2: Twelve carries for Chase Brown twenty three yards.
Speaker 3: That's one point nine yards of carry.
Speaker 2: Samaja only carried it six times, but for thirty one
Speaker 2: yards that's five point two.
Speaker 3: Because we want to throw the football up and down
Speaker 3: the field, and it makes every happy when Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: throws touchdowns. Ugly football is when you run the football
Speaker 3: and you just beat people up. Nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I would rather win a game
Speaker 3: by pounding the ball twenty times than throwing having my
Speaker 3: quarterback go to the ball forty times.
Speaker 2: What did we learn watching the Steelers over the years,
Speaker 2: they would get a lead and then Jerome Bettis or
Speaker 2: any of them, any of them pound you in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, shorten the game, get out of dodge and
Speaker 2: meaning we've got.
Speaker 3: To take a break.
Speaker 2: You are listening to the tri State Chevy Dealers postgame
Speaker 2: sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folcher. This
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig. Where at Wings and Rings that Kings
Speaker 2: Mills location on Kings Center Drive in Mason. We're here
Speaker 2: till eight thirty tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the tri State Chevy
Speaker 2: Dealers post games sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We
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Speaker 2: fifty five seventeen King Center Drive. He's David Fulter. This
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty,
Speaker 2: continuing to break down the Bengals thirty nine to thirty
Speaker 2: four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball,
Speaker 2: and there's a there were a bunch of Bills fans
Speaker 2: in the house tonight, Yes they were, and I just
Speaker 2: wish them all the best. They were happy with the win.
Speaker 2: They need a few more so do the Bengals?
Speaker 3: Man, Yes, they do. Yes, three games out with four
Speaker 3: to go. Uh huh. It's a tough place, tough place
Speaker 3: to be in.
Speaker 2: It's like the Super Bowl season, David. Every break went
Speaker 2: our way, the Bengals way, and now we're paying for
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 3: You know, it's sad, man, because this is a good
Speaker 3: football team, this is a great city to be playing for.
Speaker 3: We got everything that you can act possibly ask for,
Speaker 3: but we just can't win a game. Can't win a game.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's go back out to the phones. Do
Speaker 2: we still have carl and Oak Hills? And how about
Speaker 2: Kevin in Texas?
Speaker 3: Texas?
Speaker 16: Hey, how y'all doing this season?
Speaker 3: We are doing well, my friends. Thank you Kevin.
Speaker 5: Yes, hey, David, I want to say something right up front.
Speaker 3: Thank you for all those memories.
Speaker 19: In the nineteen eighty eight Super Bowl season.
Speaker 3: Eighty eight eighty nine. I was in tech school.
Speaker 22: At Rant, Illinois going through Air Force Tech training, and
Speaker 22: you gave me something good to look forward to while
Speaker 22: I was going through hell getting through air Force Tech training.
Speaker 9: So thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you man.
Speaker 22: Wow, my big thing is when you watch what happened
Speaker 22: today when we got into the fourth quarter, why did
Speaker 22: Zach Taylor abandon the run? Why did we not put
Speaker 22: some extra tight ends out there, or some extra.
Speaker 3: Linemen and rely on p rind and.
Speaker 22: Make the Buffalo Bills take that game away from us?
Speaker 22: Because I feel like we just gave it away.
Speaker 3: You know, you make a great point, man, and valid point,
Speaker 3: but it's a I asked myself the same thing. I'm
Speaker 3: not a coach, so I don't call offensive plays. I
Speaker 3: just watch just like everybody else watching, and you just hindsighted.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, Zach Taylor saw something oh yeah, that he
Speaker 3: thought was really good for the team, and I was
Speaker 3: just shocked that they went away from I know they
Speaker 3: wasn't running the ball really well, but late in the game,
Speaker 3: you got five minutes, six minutes left in the game
Speaker 3: and you got the ball and you're winning. You forced
Speaker 3: the other team to stop you running the football. But
Speaker 3: we don't do that. We do something different. Joe throw's
Speaker 3: an interception. Now we got to come back and try
Speaker 3: to get back into the game. We throw another interception,
Speaker 3: and now the game is over. It's like mismanagement or
Speaker 3: clock management. Or bad time to call that play. But
Speaker 3: like I said, once again, he's the offense aveccording to
Speaker 3: the head coach, he calls a play. If they scored
Speaker 3: a touchdown, if Joe don't throw that interception and Chase
Speaker 3: catches that football, everybody's going to say, great call. But
Speaker 3: when it didn't happen the way we wanted to, now
Speaker 3: we want to call it a bad call. Tough man,
Speaker 3: tough being ahead coach, oh tough being an NFL player.
Speaker 3: It is tough. Hey appreciate it, Kevin, Thank you very much. keV,
Speaker 3: thank you man.
Speaker 2: And let's David. Let's highlight the drive of the game.
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Speaker 2: where they got the fumble in the end zone caused
Speaker 2: by DJ Turner, yes recovered by Owen Burks or in Burks,
Speaker 2: the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Go on a twelve.
Speaker 2: Play, eighty yard drive that chewed up seven minutes and
Speaker 2: two seconds and it ended with Mike Kasicki's twelve yard
Speaker 2: reception from Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: What a beautiful pass. He's just he throws a beautiful ball.
Speaker 3: He catch a ball, and the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Go up twenty eight to eighteen with eight forty four
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 3: I already had the w in the post. Yes, that's
Speaker 3: what we're thinking.
Speaker 2: And one minute and eleven seconds later, Josh Allen sprints
Speaker 2: forty yards untouched into the end zone.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That to me, That to me. I just don't understand
Speaker 3: what defensive play call. You know, Josh Allen is going
Speaker 3: to run the ball. He is going to run the
Speaker 3: ball before he throws the football. And sure enough the
Speaker 3: third down and fifteens, third and seventeens. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3: We have to be the worst when it comes to
Speaker 3: third down getting off the field. We cannot get off
Speaker 3: the field on third down. We cannot.
Speaker 2: And the Bengals converted eight of ten eight or down,
Speaker 2: including all four on their first drive.
Speaker 3: And you don't win that. That That is that right
Speaker 3: there is heartening disheartening to play like you played today.
Speaker 3: On both sides of the ball. We knew Buffalo was
Speaker 3: gonna put some points on the ball. We knew they
Speaker 3: were going to move to football they're at home. That
Speaker 3: team don't lose at home much. But to go out
Speaker 3: there and three first drives for touchdowns, yes, and then
Speaker 3: we took the you know, it took a little break
Speaker 3: to twenty one to eleven. We're ahead twenty one eleven,
Speaker 3: had a chance to go up some more points before
Speaker 3: the end of the half, and we don't. But I
Speaker 3: just knew we had this game won. I think Buffalo
Speaker 3: knew they lost this game. But you know what, you
Speaker 3: don't lose a game in the second quarter. You lose
Speaker 3: the game in the fourth quarter. And we didn't. We
Speaker 3: didn't show up to play. They scored twenty eight in
Speaker 3: the second half, twenty one in the fourth quarter, twenty
Speaker 3: one points giving up in the fourth quarter. That right,
Speaker 3: there is a disaster waiting to happen, and we got
Speaker 3: that disaster today.
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. John is in Middletown, John, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4: Man, guys, you know with everything, you know, as I
Speaker 4: always say, everything that happened in that game to the end,
Speaker 4: like I always.
Speaker 21: Say, it's in the game, right, but it's third and fifteen, right,
Speaker 21: third and fifteen, You're still in the game. With every
Speaker 21: kakamami thing, that happen, right, You're still in the game.
Speaker 4: If you stop them.
Speaker 21: They haven't been able to stop you all day long.
Speaker 21: If you stop this third and fifth geame play, you
Speaker 21: get the ball back of what a minute forty.
Speaker 4: But somewhere around there. Okay, they will stop you. Okay,
Speaker 4: what did.
Speaker 10: They do third and fifteen?
Speaker 21: You know they don't want to pass that Buffalo does
Speaker 21: not want to really pass it less they have to, right,
Speaker 21: So what they're gonna do is they're gonna send everybody deep.
Speaker 4: And give Johnson room to run. The Bengals act like
Speaker 4: they had no idea, no idea that was gonna happen.
Speaker 10: No spies, no nothing.
Speaker 21: That's what feed us today is that right there, and
Speaker 21: they act like all.
Speaker 4: Day long they didn't know he was gonna run.
Speaker 21: They're gonna have to fix that. And another thing I noticed,
Speaker 21: they're gonna have somebody on the sideline. It's gonna have
Speaker 21: to keep Joe's fans warm. Okay, that had a little
Speaker 21: bit to do with that. In a session, the staff,
Speaker 21: they're gonna have to work on that. Guys, keep this
Speaker 21: man's hands warm.
Speaker 5: And I'm still with you.
Speaker 4: I'm still with the Bengals no.
Speaker 21: Matter what I mean, I want the Bengals to lose
Speaker 21: a million times before I watched any team win once.
Speaker 14: It's it, That's all I got.
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it, John, and our good friend in
Speaker 2: Mason Ohio. Ken, wish you were here.
Speaker 10: Ken, Yeah, I'm check on you.
Speaker 17: And full Rocker doing quite a show.
Speaker 5: So pull Rocket.
Speaker 17: A defensive coordinator named Dick Lebou who ran the famous
Speaker 17: zone blitz, which I think is the best NFL scheme
Speaker 17: that's ever been invented. Steve Spagnola believes that he's been
Speaker 17: doing it for the last twelve years. You know, these guys,
Speaker 17: I think it's a lack of communication, and I don't
Speaker 17: think they have an identity David. I don't think they
Speaker 17: hit hard. I don't see a Barney Bussy. I certainly
Speaker 17: don't see a David Pulcher out there on the field.
Speaker 10: I don't see a Tim Crumry.
Speaker 17: I don't see people that really want to hit. You know,
Speaker 17: on this defense, it looks as soft as I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought they I thought they were better. I mean,
Speaker 3: there are times in this game that when things happen,
Speaker 3: you know, you got to take care of business. But
Speaker 3: when when you're looking at third down and fifteen and
Speaker 3: you're going to play some man because that's what they
Speaker 3: were doing. They were playing a single high safety, which
Speaker 3: is a oh, shoot, what's twenty two's name safety? I
Speaker 3: lost Geno Stone. Gino Stone's playing free safety. He's free.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is playing man and man. And when Josh
Speaker 3: Allen came through that line of scrimmage, it was Geno
Speaker 3: Stone who was right there to try to make a
Speaker 3: tackle after about twelve yard run and he missed it
Speaker 3: wind up getting the first down. But you've got a
Speaker 3: plan for that, you know. My thing is this third
Speaker 3: down and fifteen, and you're gonna play man or zone,
Speaker 3: you know, put some pressure on the quarterback and make
Speaker 3: him throw the ball quick, get the ball out of
Speaker 3: his hand. He might throw a little quick to the
Speaker 3: pass to the back of check down. Instead of you're
Speaker 3: giving up fifteen, you give up seven, and now they
Speaker 3: get to punt the ball. But we I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: I just you know, Josh Allen's gonna run the ball.
Speaker 3: He's gonna run the football, and we just can't defend it.
Speaker 3: And that's what makes it tough.
Speaker 10: David.
Speaker 17: You talk about the defensive backs having their back turn
Speaker 17: to the quarterback. There's an old basketball concept they used
Speaker 17: in the football a lot called ball you man, you
Speaker 17: always keep that concept if you never turn your head
Speaker 17: away from the quarterback, you never turn your.
Speaker 3: Way from the never never, never do, never do. And
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I have seen it weekend and week out.
Speaker 3: And who's teaching that? Is that? What the defensive coordinator
Speaker 3: or your defensive back coach teaching that. When you get
Speaker 3: down in the red zone, you turn your back from
Speaker 3: the quarterback. You don't know if he's running the ball
Speaker 3: or throwing the ball. Josh Allen's big long touchdown dB
Speaker 3: is running down the field with a receiver he never knows.
Speaker 3: He don't even know that Josh Allen is running until
Speaker 3: it's too late. Come on, guys, you gotta be more aware.
Speaker 3: You have to be more aware of what's going on
Speaker 3: in the game than what the coach is telling you.
Speaker 3: On the sideline doing a break.
Speaker 17: By David, you're right five yards in. You're playing man
Speaker 17: up right in your face, and then you make the
Speaker 17: quarterback throw it over your head.
Speaker 3: You don't that's.
Speaker 10: Play a zone.
Speaker 17: You don't stay five yards off your man. You're allowing
Speaker 17: him to make a cut one way or the other.
Speaker 3: Hey, you gotta make It's it's funny, man. You gotta
Speaker 3: make quarterbacks or people throw the ball over your head.
Speaker 3: You get on the goal line, you don't back up.
Speaker 3: We were told not to back up. You stay on
Speaker 3: the goal line. And if they throw the ball over
Speaker 3: your head, they got to throw it out of bounds.
Speaker 3: But these guys are turning around looking at the receiver,
Speaker 3: or not even looking at the receiver, looking at the quarterback,
Speaker 3: while guys are running trying to get open in a
Speaker 3: small window. And Josh Allen found a couple of them today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, check.
Speaker 10: I want to let you know.
Speaker 17: Tight ends in the NFL did not like catching the
Speaker 17: ball over the middle, which some guy number thirty three
Speaker 17: was crushing.
Speaker 10: Right now for a long time.
Speaker 2: And there were some wide receivers like Webster Slaughter that
Speaker 2: didn't like running into thirty men.
Speaker 3: Webs of Slaughter. We used to get at it. Man,
Speaker 3: he ran, he ran his mouth too much. Yes, hey,
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call.
Speaker 17: David and Ronnie Lot were premier or safety.
Speaker 3: Well, football has changed today. You know. The receivers can
Speaker 3: go across the middle. They ain't got to worry about
Speaker 3: getting hit. They know they're gonna get the DB's will
Speaker 3: get fined. So these guys aren't afraid to go across
Speaker 3: the middle because the NFL wants to make it safer
Speaker 3: for the offensive guy. It's not my fault, man that
Speaker 3: you got hit like that, because I'm gonna keep hitting
Speaker 3: you and if my paychecks keep disappearing, there's not too
Speaker 3: much I can do about it. Thank you, brother, We
Speaker 3: appreciate your call. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Jan and Mason, all right, appreciate you. Hey, let's look
Speaker 2: at the NFL scoreboard here. David and the Green Bay
Speaker 2: Packers defeated the Chicago Bears today twenty eight to twenty one.
Speaker 2: De Los Angeles rams all over the Arizona Cardinals forty
Speaker 2: five to seventeen. Seahawks go into Atlanta and crush the
Speaker 2: Falcons thirty seven to nine.
Speaker 3: That's a scary team.
Speaker 2: Am Darnold with three more touchdowns today the incredible and
Speaker 2: the Titans come back and beat the Cleveland Browns thirty
Speaker 2: one to twenty nine in Cleveland. That hurts and the
Speaker 2: Vikings JJ McCarthy a resurrection here with three touchdown passes
Speaker 2: thirty one to nothing, shutout of the Washington Commanders in Minneapolis,
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins smoke the Jets thirty four to ten
Speaker 2: in New Jersey, and Tua, not known for being a
Speaker 2: cold weather quarterback, you know, leads the Dolphins to a
Speaker 2: thirty four to ten victory over the Jets in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: The New Orleans Saints come back that hurts Wowa Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers twenty four to twenty in Tampa. In Tampa,
Speaker 2: the Bucks are now seven and six, and the Jacksonville
Speaker 2: Jaguars they're hot, thirty six to nineteen winners at home
Speaker 2: over the Indianapolis Colts. Colts fall to eight and five,
Speaker 2: the Jags now nine and four.
Speaker 3: At one time I think the Colts was seven and one. Yes,
Speaker 3: they're playing how now? And then Dan Jones going with
Speaker 3: the Achilles with.
Speaker 2: An Achilles, Yes, and the Pittsburgh Steelers improved to seven
Speaker 2: and six. They find a way, man, They find a
Speaker 2: way with a twenty seven to twenty two victory over
Speaker 2: the Ravens in Baltimore to take over sole.
Speaker 3: Possession in the AFC North.
Speaker 2: And the Broncos defeat the Raiders in Las Vegas twenty
Speaker 2: four to seventeen. So those are the updated scores and
Speaker 2: tonight's game, the Texans who are seven and five at
Speaker 2: the Chiefs who are six and six.
Speaker 3: Must win for the Chiefs. Come on, Texas, Yes, come
Speaker 3: on Texas. Man. If the Bengals can't get in and
Speaker 3: to the party, we can't allow Kansasity to get there either.
Speaker 2: And with that, let's take a break. We're live at
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Speaker 2: and you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Rnel Carriers. He's David Folter. This
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW Welcome back to
Speaker 2: the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by
Speaker 2: Rnell Carriers on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2: He's David Folter. This is Chick Ludwig. We're live at
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings, King's Mills Location fifty five seventeen King
Speaker 2: Center Drive in Mason. We're here till eight thirty tonight,
Speaker 2: and David, you had quite the entourage here.
Speaker 3: Fulter's vultures tonight got the voters in the house and
Speaker 3: John and lee Anne Reith, long time family, walking out
Speaker 3: the door. There good to have y'all. Here, got my
Speaker 3: little man here working on the I l money already. Beautiful.
Speaker 3: Look look little Braxing, my grandson and your your bride,
Speaker 3: Judy just had just had a birthday. She turned twenty
Speaker 3: five yesterday. Fantastic. And Kayla, Kayla's over there paying the bill.
Speaker 3: Oh you got really nice. You gotta love that. I
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: And Braxton is the grandson.
Speaker 3: Braxton is my man. Hey, Braxing, what up? Man is he?
Speaker 3: How old is he?
Speaker 4: He?
Speaker 3: Eleven? Even months? I was gonna say a round one.
Speaker 2: He's close, he's looking, he's looking mighty five almost, Yes, beautiful,
Speaker 2: great stuff. And hey, we've got a caller on the line. Yes,
Speaker 2: Sean in Cedarville. John, what's happening?
Speaker 5: Hey, how you guys doing tonight?
Speaker 2: Dick great man great? How are you?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 10: David?
Speaker 4: Hi, David?
Speaker 3: How are you doing so? Yess?
Speaker 16: And the Bengals lost today?
Speaker 5: Will somebody call me a doctor?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: I put on my Facebook page after the selection show committed.
Speaker 3: You know, the Selection show came down, and I'm there.
Speaker 3: The world is not.
Speaker 2: Coming to an end, but it feels like it because
Speaker 2: it is the college football playoff. Ar mcgeddon, Yes, Okay,
Speaker 2: Indiana is number one in the nation.
Speaker 3: Who would have ever thought that five or ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then in a twelve team playoff Tulane and
Speaker 2: James Madison or in they're okay. Yes, so this is
Speaker 2: categ this is cataclysmic, but it's going to be incredible.
Speaker 5: In Indiana's case. I think it just goes to show
Speaker 5: how big the shadow of Bobby Knight was cast over
Speaker 5: that university does. All it mattered for the last fifty
Speaker 5: years was i U basketball. But now it's a whole
Speaker 5: new world today.
Speaker 3: Whole new you know it really is.
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti deserves a lot of credit and that that
Speaker 2: is a fantastic football team. I graduated with Archie Griffin
Speaker 2: at Ohio State. Yes, I was not happy last night,
Speaker 2: but you know what, the first thing you learn, David
Speaker 2: Fulcher is a wee laddie.
Speaker 3: You can't win them all. No, you can't win them all.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Indiana came to play last night. Yes, there were some
Speaker 2: things about Ohio State that upset me. They were in
Speaker 2: the shadow of the goal line twice and came away
Speaker 2: with no points. The quarterback on a snake to get stopped,
Speaker 2: and then third and one at the nine in completion
Speaker 2: and then a whiff on a field goal that would
Speaker 2: have tied.
Speaker 5: The Hey, Dave, I don't know how the Craig deadline work,
Speaker 5: but if the coach would be interested in Joe Flacco,
Speaker 5: can there be a deal made there this late in
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure that they can do
Speaker 3: trades and throughout the year. You don't have to wait
Speaker 3: until the trade deadline. But I see, I don't I
Speaker 3: don't know if I get rid of Joe Flacco. I
Speaker 3: know Flacco wants to play, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: I get rid of Joe Flacco, because you've got to start.
Speaker 3: You gotta starting quarterback as your backup quarterback. And Joe
Speaker 3: Flacco came in here and we've got to say.
Speaker 5: Four games left and we could pick him back up
Speaker 5: after the end of the season maybe, But defensively today
Speaker 5: for the Bengals, they have showed improvement. But just the
Speaker 5: heads up and Kowell don't get the memo. There's four
Speaker 5: games left and each of the four teams have tied
Speaker 5: in and you guys have to remind me who was
Speaker 5: to cut the touchdown pass versus the Chicago Bears. Was
Speaker 5: that a tie end.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was Church Loveland from the University of Michigan.
Speaker 5: And when it was third and fifteen or whatever it was,
Speaker 5: the prior play they brought the house. I mean they
Speaker 5: pulled the sink and everything, and they got this fact.
Speaker 5: Why didn't they turn right around and do it again?
Speaker 5: They could have smutthered him in the backfield and got
Speaker 5: possession of the ball and maybe a chance to win
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 3: You know, man, I don't know. All I know is
Speaker 3: is that some of the play calling. You know. I
Speaker 3: can't question why they did what they did, where it happened,
Speaker 3: what we should have ran. But I do know, man,
Speaker 3: it is very frustrating. As a former player and a
Speaker 3: fan of the Cincinnati Bengals. I love Cincinnati. I watched Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: My kids are growing up in Cincinnati and that this
Speaker 3: is my home and to watch them play the way
Speaker 3: they play sometimes you just got to ask yourself, why,
Speaker 3: why did it happen? What do we call that? But
Speaker 3: that's just part of the game.
Speaker 5: I can show them sentiments with you, because I used
Speaker 5: to look forward to watching you play. I mean, you
Speaker 5: delivered the blow, you know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 5: you didn't really you didn't have to knock the head
Speaker 5: off the guy, but you did stop him any tracks.
Speaker 5: And you don't see these guys getting them positions that way.
Speaker 4: And I don't know.
Speaker 5: Whose responsibility that it is on defense to cover the
Speaker 5: tide ends. But they talk about complimentary football, Well, I'm
Speaker 5: thinking complimentary within the complimentary meaning the phase, the defensive phase.
Speaker 5: Each player has to compliment each other too in a way.
Speaker 2: John, John, with that, we've got we've got to run.
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Speaker 2: breaking down the bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss
Speaker 2: to the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 2: only got a half hour to go. David, four games left,
Speaker 2: three games out the Pittsburgh Steelers. Man, they play the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: They still got to play the Browns. They still got
Speaker 2: to play. They got to go to the Detroit to
Speaker 2: play the Lions. They finish up with the Ravens again.
Speaker 2: So the Ravens now have the Bengals in Cincinnati next Sunday,
Speaker 2: then they host the Patriots. Then they go to the
Speaker 2: Packers and go to the Steelers. So the Ravens have
Speaker 2: a tough road. Ravens have a tough road. All we
Speaker 2: gotta do is win, win.
Speaker 3: You know, I know it sounds crazy, but we're only
Speaker 3: going to get one team out of this This versions
Speaker 3: division to go to play, and it's going to be
Speaker 3: the division winner, and it's gonna come down to it
Speaker 3: could be an eight to nine, an eight nineteen winning
Speaker 3: the division.
Speaker 2: Seattle one year, didn't they win the They got to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: What a losing record? Yes, yes, it can't happen. Man,
Speaker 3: It's uh, we just have to We have to take
Speaker 3: care of business. We worry about what other teams do
Speaker 3: and what other people say, but our our jobs are
Speaker 3: to take care of business. And we had a shot today.
Speaker 3: We had a shot to take care of business and
Speaker 3: got to You gotta have the mind of a fish,
Speaker 3: you know. You get you get hooked, they throw you
Speaker 3: back in there, catch and release, and you come back
Speaker 3: and get it again. So this is what we gotta do.
Speaker 3: What happened today is over, and right now it's Ravens
Speaker 3: week and we got to get ready for the Ravens.
Speaker 2: There are times, David, when I'm trying to fall asleep
Speaker 2: at night and I'm thinking of plays that the Bengals make. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I think of Colston Loveland over the middle yep,
Speaker 2: long touchdown for the Chicago Bears after Joe Flacco leads
Speaker 2: an unbelievable comeback yep in the final minutes.
Speaker 3: Yep. So I think about that.
Speaker 2: Remember when Leon Hall after Cedrick Benson scores a touchdown, Yes,
Speaker 2: seconds to go?
Speaker 3: Seconds?
Speaker 2: Leon Hall a pass defense but it pops up in
Speaker 2: the air. I forget the name of the wide receiver
Speaker 2: from Denver that gets it, runs to the goal line,
Speaker 2: goes across to kill a few more seconds, steps into
Speaker 2: the end zone, and the Bengals have their heart ripped out.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, you know, I think we said
Speaker 3: this earlier, maybe it was on the air. Off the air,
Speaker 3: how this has been a funny football season. Yeah, players
Speaker 3: getting hurt, quarterback coaches changing, things are happening. And you know,
Speaker 3: the teams that the NFL or people were expecting to
Speaker 3: be on the top or on the bottom, and then
Speaker 3: the teams that are supposed to be on the bottom
Speaker 3: are now on the top. Players are getting hurt. It's
Speaker 3: just a funny football season. There have been years of
Speaker 3: football where players don't get hurt, teams are doing so well,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, the players that aren't
Speaker 3: getting hurt, the ones you don't think about, they're getting hurt.
Speaker 3: The teams aren't playing well. All of a sudden, you
Speaker 3: got the Denver Broncos. You know, ten games they don't
Speaker 3: won ten. The Jacksonville Jaguars are just one today they're
Speaker 3: almost a ten wins. And then you got the teams
Speaker 3: that have so much potential, like the Baltimore Ravens and
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals who are only six wins, six and seven,
Speaker 3: five and six wins, And you ask yourself, how how
Speaker 3: does the team that much talent only win so many games?
Speaker 3: Because I think the parody in the NFL now is
Speaker 3: starting to be more consistently even than it has been
Speaker 3: in the past four and nine. Day would never would
Speaker 3: have thought the synthe thing was before them.
Speaker 2: And as far as Joe Flacco is concerned, I hope
Speaker 2: they sign him.
Speaker 3: It's a backup me too. I would take Joe. I
Speaker 3: would take Joe Flacco any day to be my backup.
Speaker 3: But I know Joe Flacco wants to play. He wants
Speaker 3: to play now and stay all the time. But knowing
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow goes through a lot of injuries, that
Speaker 3: Flacco could play again, hopefully Joe Burrow doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, we got two Joels that can play.
Speaker 3: And if we got those two Joe's on this roster
Speaker 3: next year and they get a shot even this year,
Speaker 3: if things go the well it's supposed to be going,
Speaker 3: this is a very very powerful football team. We're just
Speaker 3: not showing how powerful we really are.
Speaker 2: If they would by some miracle, reached the postseason, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to play the Cincinnati bangal.
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you I Joe Burrow today. We were
Speaker 3: talking about this at home. Joe Burrow today just he
Speaker 3: brings something out of this team, like, oh, no doubt.
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that you say, oh man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to I'm going to battle with this dude.
Speaker 3: I'm finna go in the burning house. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: a firefighter who does a tremendous job to help people
Speaker 3: when those things happen. I know when I go in
Speaker 3: that house, I got that guy to protect me. He's
Speaker 3: gonna help me. And that's what Joe Burrow throws out.
Speaker 2: And I saw the interview with him talking about in
Speaker 2: the snow, Yes, the offense has they have the advantage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Tagans said that too, well, no, he did.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow said that. He said that when you running
Speaker 3: you I know where I'm going offensively, but the defensive
Speaker 3: guy don't. So if I can get my foot in
Speaker 3: and keep it right and I can make a cut,
Speaker 3: that defensive back slips and fall, I'm wide open. And
Speaker 3: Higgins was hide open on one of them, and Joe
Speaker 3: overthrew him. Think about that. If Joe doesn't overthrow him,
Speaker 3: and what does that do. That's at the end of
Speaker 3: the half. Yes, they go down and kick a field goal,
Speaker 3: score a touchdown. Buffalo is really in some serious trouble. Yes,
Speaker 3: and what do we do? We have to punt the
Speaker 3: ball away.
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Speaker 2: Who did get injured today?
Speaker 3: Man? Do we have some injuries today? T Higgins was
Speaker 3: getting bounced around a little bit with concuctive Yes he was,
Speaker 3: but he went into the blue tent. Blue Tint said
Speaker 3: he was okay, and they let him come back out
Speaker 3: and play. But you could see that he had some
Speaker 3: some silliness in him throughout the day.
Speaker 2: Aunt Josephoe's side was out with a right shin injury,
Speaker 2: so don't know how severe it is.
Speaker 3: I don't think he came back, No, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't remember see it. I don't remember seeing.
Speaker 2: Him because Cedric Johnson was playing in his spot Buffalo man.
Speaker 3: Cedric whiffed on. Can't be wishing Allen, can't be whiffing
Speaker 3: man forty yards. I think that big long run. I
Speaker 3: mean once again, though, when you get to the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, you gotta slow your motor. And what I
Speaker 3: mean by slow your motor, man, you you've got to
Speaker 3: slow down, especially on the surface in the tractor where
Speaker 3: it was today wet, snow, slippery. You've got to slow down.
Speaker 3: Because that's what Josh Allen did. Soon as that soon
Speaker 3: as the two guys came and the tackle went inside
Speaker 3: and that other guy was scraping and his motor was
Speaker 3: wide open, Josh Allen said, I'm gone, You're not gonna
Speaker 3: get me, but you gotta slow you motor, slow down,
Speaker 3: make a sure tackle, give yourself in your defense another
Speaker 3: chance on the next down.
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Speaker 2: over twenty years. When you look at the defensive statistics,
Speaker 2: the lotted the DB's baby are at the top of
Speaker 2: that list.
Speaker 3: And what does that tell you, Well, you know most
Speaker 3: of people don't understand. And you've got to have a
Speaker 3: good front seven, your d lineman and your linebackers to
Speaker 3: put pressure on the quarterback. When you don't put pressure
Speaker 3: on the quarterback, you leave your dv's out there on
Speaker 3: the island all by themselves. It's hard to cover a
Speaker 3: man when you don't know where he's going, especially in
Speaker 3: the snow. And once again, the DB's they're they're, they're
Speaker 3: they they're the ones that you see them on Sports
Speaker 3: Center highlight giving up a big touchdown or missing a tackle.
Speaker 3: But it all starts up front. When you put pressure
Speaker 3: on the quarterback, it makes it easy for the defensive
Speaker 3: backs to cover. If you don't do that, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have issues. And when you look at their DBS for
Speaker 3: the Bengals, they're always making tackles or they're always around
Speaker 3: the football, which tells me that the guys up front
Speaker 3: aren't doing their job.
Speaker 2: We have Geno Stone with nine combined tackles, seven solo,
Speaker 2: two assists. He had a sack, two tackles for loss,
Speaker 2: a quarterback hit.
Speaker 3: A good game. He was active. He was very active today.
Speaker 3: But see, it needs to be consistent. You know, he
Speaker 3: can't show up one week and not show up the
Speaker 3: next week. You gotta take pride in that. You know,
Speaker 3: when I play a chick. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't think I was the best safety
Speaker 3: ever played the game. I know I missed some tackles,
Speaker 3: but there wasn't a whole lot I missed. But I
Speaker 3: took pride in what I did. And when I walk
Speaker 3: off that field, I didn't even have to go and
Speaker 3: ask anybody. I left everything on that field. I gave
Speaker 3: every inswin that I could. And sometimes when you watch
Speaker 3: this defense and certain players, it looks like they're just
Speaker 3: going through the motion and you shouldn't be going through
Speaker 3: the motion. And I may be wrong. But I'm a
Speaker 3: spectator like everybody else that's watching, and if you're just
Speaker 3: going through the motion, you shouldn't be out there.
Speaker 2: As far as passes, defense, Jordan Battle, Dax Hill, DJ
Speaker 2: Turner and man that forced fumble.
Speaker 3: The DJ that was huge, That was huge. That was
Speaker 3: just absolutely shut. And those are the small things that
Speaker 3: people don't see. You know, it might give up a
Speaker 3: catch or it might be holding, but this is the
Speaker 3: follow up. It's those things that they you know, they
Speaker 3: did that in Baltimore when the cut the touchdown or
Speaker 3: had the ball and worked get towards the end zone
Speaker 3: and he gets Joden Battle knocks it out and the
Speaker 3: ball comes out when we get the ball back when
Speaker 3: we go down and score. So those are the things
Speaker 3: that people don't see. But when they see the obvious
Speaker 3: stuff where you're holding or you're giving up a touchdown
Speaker 3: and you missed a tackle, we're gonna talk about those,
Speaker 3: but they're not going to talk about the plays that
Speaker 3: are made behind the scenes or whatever it goes on.
Speaker 3: So that's what happens a lot. Now we've talked a
Speaker 3: lot about.
Speaker 2: Baltimore's or excuse me, Buffalo's tight ends, increasing the Bengals
Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty seven yards on eleven catches,
Speaker 2: thirteen targets. Okay, wow, today the Bengals pass receiving, Yes,
Speaker 2: they were doubling Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: And you know that's going to happen weekend and week got.
Speaker 10: Oh.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he caught five balls for forty four yards, a
Speaker 2: long gain of sixteen. That opened the door for t Higgins.
Speaker 2: Now eleven targets, six receptions, ninety two yards, two touchdowns
Speaker 2: with a long gain of twenty five and that was
Speaker 2: a beautiful touchdown catches at the end of the game.
Speaker 2: But Mike Kasicki six targets, six catches, that is a
Speaker 2: real positive. He's back from from injury and that's that
Speaker 2: biceps injury.
Speaker 3: And Kazki is a former Buffalo bill. Okay, Kazki's coming
Speaker 3: from Buffalo to US last year two years ago, when
Speaker 3: I thought, yes, he was eland Buffalo, but it was
Speaker 3: in that in that same in that same conference. And
Speaker 3: when you watch him, I mean not flashy. I heard
Speaker 3: the commentator say when he goes out and running routes,
Speaker 3: it's almost like a big white receiver. Yes, not just
Speaker 3: the tight end. So my question is there are certain
Speaker 3: packages that teams play. It's the twelve package, the nine package, whatever.
Speaker 3: Two tight ends, three tight ends. You know, when you
Speaker 3: see the Bengals put three tight ends on the field,
Speaker 3: everybody thinks they're going to run the football. They're gonna
Speaker 3: run the football, but they throw the football with those
Speaker 3: three tight ends. And you know what, I myself personally,
Speaker 3: I understand you want to throw the ball down on
Speaker 3: the field with Chase Chases. How does Chase get to
Speaker 3: open so much when he got double triple coverage? It's
Speaker 3: beyond me. But that tells me that there's other receivers
Speaker 3: on that team that should be Yoshi. Where was Yoshi today?
Speaker 3: I don't even know if Yosh.
Speaker 2: Had he caught He caught two balls for seventeen yards,
Speaker 2: a long gain of eleven.
Speaker 3: But just think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what if if I made Bengals tight
Speaker 2: end like a Noah Fant who caught one ball for
Speaker 2: fifteen yards, a Tanner Hudson who caught one for eleven.
Speaker 3: I'm there one.
Speaker 2: When I become a free agent, I want to go
Speaker 2: to I want to go to Baltimore or Buffalo.
Speaker 3: I want to go somewhere where the tight end becomes
Speaker 3: an integral part of what the offense is doing. Yes,
Speaker 3: we do that every now and then. I don't know
Speaker 3: why we go away from, you know, smash Mount football,
Speaker 3: because we got a quarterback that that should throw four
Speaker 3: hundred and five hundred yard of the game. We got
Speaker 3: a receiver that's to catch three or four touchdown the
Speaker 3: game smash Mount football, old school football. Old school football
Speaker 3: should have happened in the last six minutes of that game,
Speaker 3: where we're gonna run down your throats and you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to stop us running the football because we are winning.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get trickery. I'm gonna throw what I
Speaker 3: have to. When I don't have to throw the ball,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run the ball. And I think sometimes we
Speaker 3: get away from that because Zach Taylor's offense is about
Speaker 3: putting points on the board and a quarterback throwing three
Speaker 3: or four hundred yards and the receiver catching four or
Speaker 3: five touchdowns.
Speaker 2: And another guy I'd like to see get more involved.
Speaker 2: He's back there blocking Drew Sample. He catch the football.
Speaker 3: He can catch the football. Man Drew Sample can catch
Speaker 3: the football. Shamase p Ryan can run the football. Third
Speaker 3: and one, all, third and two, fourth, and one p
Speaker 3: Ryan is my guy. Yes he is. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: p Ryan delivers the blow. He don't accept the blows.
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