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Everything was going great until it 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:23.040 wasn't until twenty one consecutive points for the Buffalo Bills 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.720 on their way to a thirty nine to thirty four victory. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.240 You know, it's scary, man, because we sit here and 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.080 we talk about what they're supposed to do, what they're 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:36.839 not supposed to do, and with seven eight minutes left 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.240 in the game, you got the football. You're up five 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.919 four or five points, four points three points. Run the ball, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.720 run the ball, make Buffalo stop you but run the ball, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.799 and here we go. We get creative again and try 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.960 to set up a quick pass to Chase because I 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.480 think Burrow saw the blitz the corner coming, so Borrow 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.360 saw that. He tried to get it out quick, didn't 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.079 get enough air underneath them, and then the wheels fell off. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.120 Joe Burrow's touchdown pass to Mike Gseki from twelve yards 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.400 out gave the Bengals a twenty eight to eighteen lead 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.919 with eight forty four to go. Yes, what five plus 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.600 minutes later, we're down there, They're down by ten anyway, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.240 Josh Allen, And that's when you want the Bengals to 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.760 get a stop right there, with a ten point lead, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:34.120 have a get the ball back, run the footballs titan, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.680 you know, kill the clock, win in style. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.280 But no, Josh. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:44.120 Allen gets loose for a forty yard touchdown run a 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:50.640 minute eleven seconds later, pulling Buffalo within. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.600 Three, twenty eight to twenty five. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.000 Yeah, and then the really the play of the game 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.720 that turned everything around. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.960 Swung the swung the momentum. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:09.280 Christian Benfords comes up the cornerback and Joe saw him. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:14.360 He tried to loft a pass over him on the 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:20.160 right side, and he intercepts the ball and goes sixty 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.599 three yards for a pick six at five point twenty five, 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.400 giving Buffalo the lead for good. And then on Burrow's 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.400 next pass, he gets tipped at the line of scrimmage, intercepted, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.760 and they stuff it in again. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.920 You know the here's the thing, And I heard Box 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.720 Miller talking about this on the ride over about they 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.359 didn't quit. You saw him fight. They kept doing what 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.800 they were supposed to be doing. But it's just sometimes 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.680 I think we tried to out fox the fox. We 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.760 tried to out fox the other coach, try to come 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.200 up with something that was the perfect time to put 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.560 the ball in Chase Brown's hand and try to run 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.040 some clock off. I know Joe has been doing a 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.400 great job. The game was going to exactly where he 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.760 wanted it. But once again, man, we've got to manage. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.440 And like I said, I'm not gonna sit here and 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.359 talk bad about play call and whatnot, but seven minutes 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.160 left in the game, and you're up three, or you're 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.880 up five, whatever you were up, you've got to be 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.440 able to run the clock out. I sitting there talking 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.080 to my daughter watching the game, and the first thing 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:29.000 I said was time management, clock management, run the ball, 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.839 try to get you know, two or three yards every 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:38.200 play and then make them in Buffalo use timeouts when 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.720 they didn't they didn't really want to, and we give 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.320 up the league. And once we gave the league up, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.200 now we're forced to go fast because you know, we 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.000 got to score and tie the game up or get 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.719 get ourselves back in a position to win, and we 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:50.280 didn't do it. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.719 Joe Burrow was mostly spectacular in this game in the snow, 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:55.000 and to win. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.520 I'm gonna tell you he was cool. He was cool today. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.400 Them two interceptions really hurt. And I saw someone on 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.400 Facebook or social media and said that Joe Burrow lost 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.760 a game for us. Come on, y'all, come on now, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.400 come on, let's let's be real here. This is Cincinnati 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.280 people talking about Joe Burrow blowing the game. The guy's 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:13.960 trying to win. The guy did not have to come 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.280 back from that foot injury. He's out there taking care 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.760 of his business. He said he wanted to play with 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.240 a team. He belongs out there. He said, they pay 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:21.760 him a lot of money to do what he does. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.440 And it just didn't go his way and you got 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:26.880 to find a way to win, and we just couldn't 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:27.479 find it today. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:32.000 Four touchdowns in those conditions, I know, incredible, I know 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:33.839 he was mostly spectacular. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:34.400 He was. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.760 But then, like you said, the wheels do fall off. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.719 And the Bengals led in this game seven to open, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:46.080 fourteen to three, twenty one to eleven, twenty eight to eighteen, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.640 and all I want is to stop get the ball 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.120 back with a ten point. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.320 Lead, and they can't do it one stop. You know, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:59.000 I watched defense, I watched the linebackers. I know they're young, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.560 but they're they're always out of place, out of position. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.480 This is what what did you say when you came 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:05.840 in here. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.400 You can't play football unless you see the ball. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:14.160 Yeah, and they got their backs to the quarterback. You've 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.880 got your back to the quarterback when the ball is 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.480 being thrown. Why you think Josh Allen does what he 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.720 does and throws the balls in there? If these guys 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.800 just turn their heads and see the quarterback. And here's 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.080 what happens to that chick. When you get down in 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.920 the red zone inside the five yard line, three yard 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.360 line and you're on first and goal, third and go 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.680 whatever it may be. You become like a man, the 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.920 man on the receiver that you're guarding. It's like playing basketball. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.000 You follow him wherever he goes and see where the 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.320 ball is coming. And what do we do. We have 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.960 our backs to the quarterback. We have no idea the 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.440 ball's being thrown and that touchdown. Josh Allen had eight 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.680 nine seconds to throw the ball. And when he threw 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.000 the ball, it was right past the defender's ear. If 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.000 the defender turns his head, he might even just reach 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.720 out and grab that with his own mouth, not just 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:05.520 his hand. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:11.560 An astounding stat. The Bengals are two and five this season, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.880 scoring thirty three or more points. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:14.360 Wow. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.960 The rest of the league fifty two and one. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.120 Wow, it's unbelievable. That is not supposed to happen, not 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.880 with this kind of football team that we got here 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:28.440 in Cincinnati. I think we're off to a flying start here. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.880 I'm starting to become that word bengalized. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.320 Win. Ain't heard that in a long time. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.760 When all the life gets sucked out of you, I mean, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.360 let's look at it here. The Bengals have fallen to 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.880 four and nine on the season. Pittsburgh beats Baltimore at 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.440 Baltimore to go to seven and six. So the Bengals 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.080 are three games back with four games to go, and 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.520 I KNOWE Joe and the rest of the Bengals were 0:08:55.559 --> 0:09:00.480 secretly hoping that Baltimore wouldn't win because Baltimore comes in 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:01.280 here next week. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.520 Yes, but now the mountain becomes even steeper. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.400 Three games out, four games to go, we split with 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.559 the Pittsburgh so it's gonna be a tough sled. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.560 It's gonna be a tough one, man. But I saw 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.120 something where there's there's still a shot. I mean, a 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.840 team can win this division at nine and eight, nine 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.720 and eight or eight, whatevere, eight and nine. It can happen. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:34.160 It could happen because Pittsburgh still hasn't played Detroit, Baltimore 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.920 hasn't play these teams, so everybody still has an opportunity 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:42.800 to make something happen. But today was the flator man. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.520 I knew when they were up fourteen to three, I said, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.360 if they can just hold on, they got a shot, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.360 and they kept answering the bell. But then when it 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.679 was time, I just feel like we just don't have 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.800 that killer when it's time to go get it done. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.199 You saw Buffalo today. When Buffalo was down, they were 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.400 hunt they were hunting the Bengals up. They were hunting them, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.719 they were going after them. We just don't have that 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.520 that finish, if that's the word to use that word. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.760 We don't have that finish. We just like let people 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.040 hang around if we can get that finish, and that 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.760 finish could come right before half. We had the ball 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.960 right before half. We scored touchdown right there, put points 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.200 on the board. We're really putting them in a hole 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.600 and we couldn't do anything with that. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.360 We're gonna take a break. We'll come back and take 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.560 your calls. 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Bengals lose thirty nine 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.080 to thirty four. Just another game where they score thirty 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:26.600 plus points and lose. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.040 I'm fired up, Rock, I am too. I'm trying to 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.200 come out of retirement, but I know I can't. I 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.320 wish I could, though. Hey is a pat in Redding there? 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.000 Yes, I am Hey, I Pati. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.520 Tell your wife, I said, Hi, I met her last 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.720 year after one of the games. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.920 Is you so so very nice? 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:48.240 Will? 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.280 I have all kinds of things I want to talk about. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.199 First of all, we were wondering about pe Higgins. We 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.319 were absolutely. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.959 Stop that he came back in the game after two 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:08.640 of those bad things that looked like concussion or that 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.280 they could have been a concussion, And we were noticing that. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.280 You know, when he came back in, he was bobbling 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.280 the passes, even the ones that he caught. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:20.760 Did you notice that. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.560 Yeah, I can. I actually thought that he wasn't going 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.439 to come back. I thought maybe the concussions were taking 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.319 their toll. But they put him in the blue tent. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.120 They did the necessary to see if this concussion was there, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.080 and he qualified to come back. He does double catch 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.640 a lot of balls without a concussion. He does a 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.640 lot of double catching. Balls don't stick to his hands 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.640 like it does Chase, So Higgins does a lot of 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.720 double catching balls. But you know today, you know he 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.040 gutted it out, you know, because I still think that 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.360 he was a little you know, a little cuckoo for 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.720 Coca Puss. You know, he was a little bit dizzy, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.120 but he but he played and he said it. He said, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:02.920 I'm gonna go to war with my teammates and I'm 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:03.680 gonna do what I'm gonna do. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:10.080 Yep, that last catch was absolutely incredible. And here's another question. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.760 Do the reps refuse to call interference when somebody is 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.920 clearly pulling on their arms? 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.319 They I'm i'm gonna tell you, I'll tell you. I'll 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.319 tell you why. I don't think they called passing aference 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.079 on that one. It is because he caught it. If 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.080 he doesn't catch that football, I think they're gonna throw 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.959 the flag out because he only had one hand to 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.880 grab the ball, and I didn't see a flag, so 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.720 they should have. They should have thrown the flag no 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:33.079 matter what. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.280 H Now, another thing about our defense. I think, of 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.760 course the defense lost the game for us again. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.880 But again I'm watching. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.960 In the third quarter, the defense got a sack of 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.040 Josh Allen. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.439 For about three yards. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:54.160 They started celebrating like they had just won the Super Bowl, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.320 and then we're going leave there. What down was that 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.920 was that third bout? No, it was first down, and 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.880 then of course they marched down the field and that's 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:10.360 the drive where luckily he fumbled the. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:11.880 Ball and we recovered it. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.880 But isn't that a lack of maturity? 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.920 That's one thing, Pat, I mean, that's one thing that 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.320 I as a former player, and I understand that we 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.960 all get excited, but I hate to see guys celebrate 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.440 dancing and jumping around and you're losing by a touchdown 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.720 or two because you made him play. A guy named 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.000 Paul Brown, many many years ago told me, act like 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.120 you've been there. Act like you've been there, Isaac Curtis, 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.840 act like you've been there, and right, you know, if 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.160 you're winning, if you're winning and you want to celebrate, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.120 I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But when 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.480 you're losing and you start celebrating you forget about how 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.400 you got there. And that's what Paul Brown used to 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.160 tell us many many years ago. And you know, the 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.440 football players are different today. I can't tell guy not 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.040 to dance. I can't even tell a guy today what's 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.840 he doing because they don't want to hear from us 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.360 old guys. I'm an old guy, Chick. I don't know 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.280 what's going on. I didn't never do that. I didn't 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.360 do that stuff. Yeah, so so it's it's a little tough, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.440 you know, and you know, you don't want to see 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.640 your team lose. It's very frustrating because this team has 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.960 so much potential, but it happens every year. This football 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.440 season has been a crazy football season for everybody. Yes, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.040 players getting hurt, coaches getting fired, people getting moved around. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.920 It's just a funny football season. So hopefully we still 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.920 have a shot to do some things and if other 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.920 teams get there, you know, get get the losses. But 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.400 once again, we should not be sitting in this position, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:41.920 but we are. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.280 And Pat, thank you very much. Thanks, Pat, appreciate you. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.120 It's Matt and is Matt and Springfield available? 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:51.760 And how's it going? 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:52.840 Chick has always you doing? 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.080 Then great, great, Thanks so much, Matt. How are you 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:57.080 no problem? 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:57.160 Man? 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.800 I'm doing all right, brother. It's just man, this season 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.120 has definitely been one for the age. It's just been 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.880 cursed as we was like, man, it's like we get 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.920 into position every single time to you know, take a 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.560 commanding lead and games. It's happened multiple times this year, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.360 and then they make just some kind of like you 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.240 pointed out earlier, Chick, it's like bungalized, we make some 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:23.720 kind of bungled bungled move to you know, snatch defeat 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.640 from the jaws of victory. That's the best way that 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.480 I can put it. Because the Bengals had that game 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.280 well in hand again to day. They did it all 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:35.240 they had to know. Now milk the cloth, and they 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.520 just try to get too cute. I feel like with Burrow, 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.600 with them, with the screen and everything you needed it 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.360 to just do what was working. They couldn't stop you 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.320 up the middle. I mean the receiver receivers was getting 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.400 opened up the middle all day, you know, pretty much 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.720 slants and everything else. They could not stop that. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.120 So, I mean, why. 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.760 Stops working to try to get cute late in the 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.760 game when you know that your season is pretty much 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.960 hanging in the balance, and once again, you know, they 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.560 find a way to lose. And honestly, if the Bengals 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.720 do lose next week, I know Burrow is a competitor, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.800 but I think maybe they should just still Joe, Hey, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.080 just go ahead and you know, pack it. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:10.600 Up for the year. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.120 But you know, just go ahead and pretty much loves 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:15.760 out up that point to get a high draft pick, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.640 because this team badly needs a playmaker on the defensive 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.960 side of the ball that can close the game out 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.440 like a cale down to somebody like that, because right 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.080 now what they have just think working they should have 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.800 traded Trey Hendrickson while you still have value because he's 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.320 missed half the year anyway, But I don't know. It's 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.879 just frustrated, but you know, it is what it is. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.040 It's football at the end of the day, and this 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.280 team has a lot of holes, especially on the defensive 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:41.840 side of the ball. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.520 But it's good talk, all right, Matt, appreciate it. Yeah, right, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.080 do we have days in Florida? 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.200 Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.600 How you doing, yes, sir? Good? 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:55.520 Yeah? 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:55.800 Yeah. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.320 So, first of all, all these people on social media 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.560 blaming Joe for the law get a life. I mean, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.600 number nine is the reason that. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.600 They put up thirty four points in the first place 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.120 and had a chance to win the game. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:12.000 So, you know, my my question is is does this 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.880 team go into next year with these two guys as 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.680 a lineback as your two linebackers. 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:18.000 I mean, the. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.320 One guy is the eighty fourth out of the eighty 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.640 fourth linebacker in the league. The other guy is eighty third. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.800 You're not winning with these two guys playing linebackers. It's 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.040 like playing nine again, eleven against nine every week. They're 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.360 they're I mean, neither one of these guys would even 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.399 be on a roster if it wasn't for us drafting 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.560 them or on precice on the practice. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.720 This team needs help at all phases of the defense, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.200 no doubt, front, middle, and back. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.719 I agree, yes, well, I agree. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:50.760 I agree with that chick. 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:57.640 But the rookie the rookies game, Yeah, they're terrible. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.120 They're horrible. 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.440 Barry Carter may be the worst linebacker I've ever seen 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:04.120 play football. 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.320 Hey, there's a lot of people in this restaurant right 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.280 now clapping about that, and I see my daughter over 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.600 there clapping. You know, it does make sense. I understand. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:19.400 I understand the mindset of having a young athlete coming 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:24.679 into the NFL. Because he's young, he's faster, but old 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:29.440 age and veterans can guide those young dudes can help 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.439 those young guys. Well, you know, the defensive coordinator wants youth. 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.560 But when these guys are out of places. The problem 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.960 is this, We've been saying this all year about missing tackles. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.560 A lot of them are out of place. They're out 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.960 of place, and then when they try to get back 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.480 in place, it's too late. How does a tight end 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.439 on the football team their tight end? I think they 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.000 had something like ten thirty. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:20:00.000 Eleven catches for one and thirty seven yards and two touchdowns. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.320 Now, those eleven catches, those two touchdowns in all those 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.439 yards were not man to man. They're in zone, yes, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.840 so we're we're in zone. Where in the where are 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.560 the linebackers? They're gone. So I would say that I 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.760 believe that they're going to have to go into this 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.760 draft and maybe not draft a young dude because they 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.960 got two young guys, but they're going to have to 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.440 go out there and get some veteran knowledge through our 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.199 free agency, and they've got to get it now. You 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:31.920 don't want to get it three years from now and 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.040 then and then now you've got these rookies who will 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:38.679 be four year starters. It's too late. These guys are fast, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.119 they're very aware, but they're out of place. This is 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:45.040 not college football, this is the NFL. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:51.600 What drove me crazy is a stunt from your left hand, 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.200 Miles Murphy. Miles Murphy stunts inside, leaping the whole right 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.280 side of the field open for Josh Allen to run. 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.000 So that's either Miles Murphy's fault or it's the other 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.960 guy's fault, because if Miles goes in, somebody's got to 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.600 come out exactly right. So you're basically replacing each other. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.640 They call it a stunt. Yes, I'm gonna stunt inside. 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.080 This guy stunts outside. Well, Murphy and the other guy, 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.840 both of them are inside. And what did Jock Allen do? 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:20.679 He runs out there and he gets up, picks up 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:21.720 a whole bunch of yards. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.720 Well, and like Joe said in his news conference, the 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.480 final run by Josh Allen seventeen yards for the first 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.200 down is the essence of that guy. 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.560 And that's incredible. And that's what's been happening this whole 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:39.240 year with this football team third down and long, third 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:44.000 down and seventeen. You're expecting that team to punt the football, 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.240 but we're not doing that. We're not getting off the 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.280 field when we need to get off the field. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.760 Josh Allen ran for seventy eight yards and that's more 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.400 yards than the Bengals had. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.120 As a team. Sixty two. 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.240 Hey, we've reached the top of the hour. 0:21:59.320 --> 0:21:59.639 Break. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.439 We've got to take a break. He's David Foulter. This 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.320 is Chick Ludwig. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:10.879 Dealers Postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers, live from 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:15.919 Wings and Rings, King's Mills on seven hundred WLW at Cincinnati, 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.280 ZESPN fifteen thirty. 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.720 This is the Tri State Chevy Dealer's post game Sports 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:28.879 Talk live from Buffalo Wings and Rings, presented by R 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.000 and L Carriers. 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If T Higgins doesn't make 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.120 that catch, I'm assuming that the flag would have came 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.159 out because he could not get that left arm up 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.359 there to catch the ball. But what a great catch, 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.680 and what a great effort from a guy who's coming 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.160 off of concussion a week ago, two weeks ago, didn't 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.959 play last week, plays this week. And he said it 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.639 on after the game. You know, I'm a gamer. You 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.120 know my job is to go out there and make 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:02.760 plays and be part of this team. I want to 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:04.919 see them succeed. So I'm gonna be out there. And 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.840 I know the lady called earlier, Pat said that, you 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.400 know when T was dropping balls, he does double catch 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.480 a lot of balls. And I don't know if it's 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.919 because of the concussion and things aren't clear, but the 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.160 guy gained he game today and they winning that blue tent. 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.480 They came back out. He did everything he's going to do. 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.800 He passed it and he wants to play the same 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.960 way with Joe. I thought, I thought I heard somebody 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:29.359 say that that Joe should sitting down because the season's over. No, 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.560 I mean, he's part of this franchise. He might be 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.440 the franchise the franchise, but he's part of this franchise, 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.800 and we're supposed to go out there and play. No 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.240 matter if we're ten and two or two and ten, 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.000 we still have to go out there and give an effort. 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.920 And that was the delivery of the game, the twenty 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.359 five yard touchdown passed from Joe Burrow to t Higgins. 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.400 It's brought to you by RNL Carriers. Visit RLC dot 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:57.199 com and make RNL Carriers your global transportation provider. Anybody 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.240 who says that Joe Burrow was the reason the Bengals 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:05.960 lost today is absolutely insane. He is a. 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.600 Warrior, crazy, absolute warrior. 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.200 If you listen to his postgame news conference, he talked 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.720 about he rehabbed his tail off. Oh yeah, to get 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.240 back here early, to get back. He loves the game, 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.359 he loves the teammates, he wants to win for the city. 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.119 He says all the right things. The dude is an 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:28.680 absolute beast. He's a warrior, and thirty one other clubs would. 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.240 Love to have him, oh without a doubt. I mean, 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.520 I remember at one time, what team was that thinking 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.200 about giving up all their draft picks for Joe Burrow? 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.240 The Jets. The Jets were talking about, you know, trading. 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:42.719 I don't know if it was the Jets or it 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.840 was just a beat writer trying to get some attention. 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.359 But the Jets will say, and they'll take Joe Burrow 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.639 and give up all their draft choices. Now that just 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.199 tells me that the guy's a winner. He's a gamer, 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.760 you know. And the guy really got back in shape, 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.240 got that foot right, because I didn't think that he 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.919 would come back and touch the field at all this 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:05.120 year and maybe not even for the finish his career plan. 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.000 Because turf toes are not a joke. 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:09.080 You know. 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.840 I've had turf toe. I've stucked my toe before and 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.040 I've never had surgery on it, but I still have 0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.120 lingering effects from that, that jam and that toe. Joe 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:22.800 Burrow gets his completely stitched and redone. So a little 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.960 bit different when you spring an ankle compared to breaking 0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.879 an ankle, because when you break something, they have to 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.439 go in there and completely fix it. When it's a 0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.119 screen or it's a snap, they'll go in there and 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.120 and mess around with and tweak it so you can play. 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.880 But this guy is a gamer. And for whoever thinks 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.840 that Joe Burrow lost this game for the Bengals need 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.080 to be hall time. Doja out. 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.840 Let's go out to the phone. So our good friend 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:48.960 Mark and Florence. 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:50.639 Hey, Mark, what's up, buddy? 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.879 How's it going? I got a Dave. Put your question first. 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.840 I want to know will he be at Radstats this year? 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.320 Yes, I'm gonna be there. Man. I just got the 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.280 email from uh the gentleman who puts it on, and yes, 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.959 I will definitely be there. Reds fast correct. 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.920 Okay, Okay, I'm gonna come and see you. But back 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.760 to the game. I don't know what the down and 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.240 distance was when Pearled threw that first interception, but it 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:18.880 looked like. 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:19.119 To me. 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.040 That ball was slipping out of his hands. 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.480 He didn't have a shot on it. 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.320 Yeah, look like a shot, and he tried to push 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.199 the ball up in the air over that defender. I 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.920 personally think that he shouldn't have even tried to make 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.520 that throw. The defender was right there. 0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.720 I mean, well, he was blitzing. The corner was blitzing. 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.320 Joe saw the blitz. It was a hot blitz, so 0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.440 that means the ball's coming out quick. And I think, Joe, 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.960 if you ever played golf and you swung the club 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.080 and you don't really swing it, you try to guide 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.880 the ball, try to guide the swing. Well, guess what 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.719 I think Joe Burrow tried to guide that pass instead 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.920 of throwing it. And that's why the guy inters up 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.000 at that ball. He saw the bits coming and you 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.480 know what, if that ball goes over that guy's head, 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.160 Chase tesches the football and maybe get five to ten 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.440 yards because there was nobody else in near Chase on 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:13.920 that throat. 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.200 It was first in ten at Buffalo's thirty three yard 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.440 line with five point thirty five to go. 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:27.240 Yeah, yeah, okay. And another thing that stood out to 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:31.600 me this defense. You know they can't never stop nobody. 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.840 This week they was playing a better quarterback. You knew 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.960 his goal to was gonna be his tight end. You 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.440 remember early in the game when they converted two fourth downs. 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.440 If the Bengals get a stop on one of those 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.880 fourth downs they got one later in that half, they 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:55.600 could have put that game away early if that defense 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.960 had a showed up. So I just I'm looking at 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.840 at their defense, like God, just give one stop. And 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:04.200 you know. 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.400 The defense if you look, if you look at if 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.680 you look at the last couple of weeks, our defense 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.000 has has played better. You know, we lose the Pittsburgh 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:14.640 but we only give up so many points, and then 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.320 we come back and we beat another team. We give 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.840 us so many points win the game. And everything was 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.760 starting to come around in the last three weeks. Twenty 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.320 points was the most I think twenty sixteen and fourteen, 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.600 and then we come out there today and I'm telling you, 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:33.320 it's the thing that shocks me the most is the 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:38.040 long conversions, the third down and sixteens, the second down 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.400 and seventeen, and we give up eighteen, we give up seventeen, 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.120 we give up the first down on third down and forever. 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.680 That shouldn't happen. Though it should not happen, there's got 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.760 to be It's gotta be somewhere in there that you 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.640 say enough is enough on third down and long fourth 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:59.360 and one, fourth and two, those are tough go ahead linebacker. 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:03.840 Line questioned, before I'll get off the two linebackers that 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.360 the Bengals have now, Dave, when you played, they played 0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:11.640 three linebackers, they had a middle linebacker and two outside linebackers. 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.920 Those we we played a four to three defense. 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.440 Yeah, those two linebackers. And you can tell me if 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.560 I'm wrong. They look like they fit more if you 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:26.360 played three linebackers, you had a middle linebacker and they 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:29.160 played on the outside. They look like more of those 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.280 type of linebackers. And my wrong. And how I'm looking 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:32.640 at that. 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.760 Well, I wouldn't. I don't know if I would say 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:39.080 that you're wrong. I just know that, Yeah, they're young, 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.560 and we can blame it on young, but they're they're 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.360 national football players. Now. They didn't played enough games to 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.680 say they're not rookies anymore. You know, after you played 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:51.320 three or four games, that rookie status has gone. Now, Okay, 0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.160 so you got these two young studs that can flat 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.440 out fly, but they're they seem to be out of 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.440 place a lot, meaning balls are being caught in front 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.760 of him, and then when they don't drop back, balls 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.680 have been called caught behind them. And today was just 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:13.960 an absolute bismal performance. When the tight end gets the 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.160 eleven catches one hundred and eighty something yards. This did 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.360 not happen to tight ends. But this only happened because 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.680 we're giving up fifteen twenty yards every catch on the 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.360 tight end. Kind of tough, but you made great points there. Man. 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:28.520 Appreciate your call. O. 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.800 Thanks a lot, Mark, as always, Yes, appreciate a man. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.920 And we've got to take a break. You're listening to 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.640 the Tri State Chevy Dealer's Postgame Sports Talk presented by 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.320 RNL Carriers. He's David Folcher, this is Chick Ludwig. We're 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.680 live at Wings and Rings that Kings Mills location King 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:50.000 Center Drive in Mason on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:58.480 ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the Tri State Chevy 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:03.520 Dealer's postgame Sports Saw presented by RNL Carriers following the 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:07.280 bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss to the Buffalo 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.479 Bills in Orchard Park, New York. And it's awesome to 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.560 be here at the Wings and Rings location King's Mills 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:20.160 alongside my partner David Fulcher. You got the Chick magnets 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.680 and you got the vultures of Volts. The vultures the 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.400 voltzers are here. Yeah, folks coming up saying hi to David. 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.040 He gives out a free autograph. 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:34.280 No cost, No cost autographs, man. 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.720 No, and uh, just a reminder of fans out there. 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.080 The postgame Sports Talk is brought to you in part 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.800 by the AE Door and Window Company. They sell the 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:49.800 best and service the rest. David, four games left. You're 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.600 three games out. But like you said, you remember this team. 0:33:53.840 --> 0:34:00.400 Joe Burrow wants to play. You can't afford to. You're 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.640 playing for your job. That's it, man, So you got 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:05.120 to give it all you got. 0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.239 And chicks and Joe said that last week people, why 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.480 are you playing Joe when the football season's over? He said, 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:11.960 this is my job. They paid me a lot of 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.439 money to go out there and play for a kid's game, 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.319 you know, fifty fifty five million dollars worth. A guy 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.239 wants to play it, but I do understand that if 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.480 he comes up lame, that he's never going to be 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.399 able to play or get hurt again. I can understand that, 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.520 but this is this is this is not and I 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.920 won't say, you know, another sport is less than football, 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.480 but we're playing football. It's physical. You're supposed to go 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.080 out there and hit the other guy. And if you 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.520 get hurt, it's not like I'm doing it on purpose. 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.040 It just happens. So for Joe Burrow to say I 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.799 want to play, let him play. Absolutely, let's go after 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:55.359 the phones. Mike in Los Angeles, Hello, Mike, are you there? 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:56.120 Sure? 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:56.840 Chipster? 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.200 David kol Rock. 0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:58.960 How are you guys? 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:00.839 We're good good. 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.879 Thanks for taking my call, Jonman, I really appreciate. Hey, 0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:06.600 I'm calling you from Compton. 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:12.600 My brother picked me up, the veteran brother, Diodnam veteran brothers. 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.120 Picked me up after my surgery and brought me back. Today. 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.680 We watched the Bengals game and then watched the watching 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.640 the Rams game. It was awesome. So at greetings from Compton. 0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:23.200 My friend. 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.520 Hey bank, a veteran bank, a veteran Pearl Harbor day. 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.120 There you go. Yeah, in my backyard made Compton, Inglewood, 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.680 Los Angeles, South Central. That's my backyard. 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.920 I know it is bro I yesterday I was down 0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.120 and watched for a wait for one of the ladies 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.719 at the books at the DA and I never had 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.320 more count at the funeral in my life. The music 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.440 was incredible, the food, but it was not a mummer. 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.040 It was a celebration of that person's life. 0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:52.320 It was really wonderful. 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:54.520 So what's your football question? Man? 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:56.839 I got off the track. 0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:01.359 I'm sorry, Dave, if you had to rates to Uh. Well, 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.400 by the way, the maybe midshipmen are gonna make the 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.359 bear of cats walk the blank the gangplank and give 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.319 him a burial at sea when we play in that 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.360 liberty bawl. Okay, just mark my words. 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.239 The shipmen are gonna whoop the. 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:21.040 Bear catch But okay, Uh, how would you rate battle? 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.440 And uh? And the stone? 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:24.879 Would you keep them? 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:25.680 Would you shop? 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:26.640 What would you do today? 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.640 You know? I here's the thing about battle. I think 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.480 battle Battle's coming from a battle test at university when 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.680 they're drafted him here so he knows he knows how 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:44.480 to play. I just think that sometimes schemes, schemes are a 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:49.880 little bit bigger and harder for some players. And I 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.879 know when when when de coordinator came from Notre Dame, 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.920 Notre Dame Defense was flying around a lot of young guys, 0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.759 and I think that's that was his mindset when he 0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:04.319 will on it to have these guys here, my guy, 0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.279 Geno Stone. You know, I've been pretty heavy on him, 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.200 just excemple fact that you know he's he's missing tackles 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.000 or I think a lot of it is just being 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.080 on a place when you're when you're on a place, 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.760 you have to work hard to get back in the place. 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.680 These guys are running left and right when they don't 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.440 have to. You know, I look at stuff and they 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.440 run out of there really quick. Pre snap, they're fifteen 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.960 to twenty yards deep. Quarterback sees that, what does he do? 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:35.880 He throws the ball in front of him because these 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.680 guys now have dropping ten yards deeper. Linebackers are not 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.200 getting deep. Linebackers are short, or they're getting too deep, 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.640 and they're they're all wide open. I do believe that 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.600 these players are out of place. And the last couple 0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:54.440 of weeks, I'd have to give Geno stone and battle, 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.279 you know somewhere around that c plus that they were 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:03.360 playing okay. But again, it's eleven guys on defense have 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.440 to do their job for all of them to be successful. 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.000 If one guy is out of place, or two guys 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.920 or three guys are out of place, that's hard to 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:17.040 that's hard to make up. When teams like Buffalo, teams 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.600 like Pittsburgh, teams like Baltimore are throwing the ball in 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.560 the middle of the field when your guys aren't there. 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.200 But it doesn't happen to our offense. You don't see 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.000 our tight ends wide open across the middle because these 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.319 guys are out of place, and that's why they rush 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.040 for one hundred and eighty three yards today gashes one 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.040 and eighty three yards come on. 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.080 And two hundred and fifty one yards through the air. 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.280 So they were very balanced, very balanced. 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.160 Man. We are not. 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.760 The Bengals are not balanced. They're not running the football enough. 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.000 Period. What we're looking for is we're looking for Joe 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.160 Burrow to win football games all the time. And if 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.759 Joe Burrow doesn't win football games, if Joe Burrow doesn't 0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:01.200 throw four touchdowns like he did today, we're out. If 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.799 Joe Burrow throwed, don't throw those two interceptions, we win 0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.200 the football game. But we want to blame that on Joe. No, 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:12.120 we gave up thirty something points. If we don't give 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:16.200 up the thirty something points, we got another victory in 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.120 a thirty points score that we've scored. What's our what's 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.640 the record of the Bengals when it comes to this 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:22.920 year with thirty something point. 0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.960 Five, scoring thirty three or more points two and five. 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.359 The rest of the league is fifty two and one. 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.480 Come on, man, we're supposed to be part of fifty two. 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:34.839 We're part of the We're not part of fifty two 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.520 because we can't stop people from. 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.640 Schooling and we've got to run. Mike and La appreciate 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.880 the call. Thanks Mike. We've got Bryce, We've got Patrick, 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.440 and we've got Rick. Hang on, we're coming to you next. 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:50.160 We've reached the bottom of the hour break. We're live 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.439 at Wings and Rings, the Kings Mills location, and you're 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.840 listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports 0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:02.279 Talk presented by RNL Carriers seven hundre WLW in Cincinnati's 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:11.680 ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back to the Tri State Chevy 0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:16.840 Dealer's postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folter, 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.640 this is Chick Ludwig, and we are live at Wings 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:24.000 and Rings, that Kings Mills location, fifty five seventeen King 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:29.920 Center Drive in Mason on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN. 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.720 We're breaking down the bengals thirty nine to forty thirty 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.800 four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball. 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.480 Like a wrecking ball. We just got a good little 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:44.839 kudos thumbs up from our partner, Lance mccalison listening to us. 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.120 Thank you, LUs, thank you Lance. Appreciate that. Brother. 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:51.319 Yes, Oh I'm and I'm reading Lance on online. Man, 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.520 he's got some strong words from UC basketball. 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.440 Lance is good man, Lance is good Landae guy, He's 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:58.480 absolutely the best. 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.560 Hey, let's go out to the phones and welcome in 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.960 my man, Bryce in Anderson. 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:05.880 Bryce. What's going on. 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:08.120 By Jay? 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.160 Hey, David, I mean who else with the Bengals in 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.920 The Bengals were in position to win today and in 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.480 familiar Bengals fashion, Joe Brook there's two inter sessions on 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.960 backpack offensive place. But David, as you were saying, that's 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:22.960 not the only reason they lost. The Bengals have had 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.279 a tread of Selfing's looked at errors in the fourth 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:26.720 quarter that they really need to fix. 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:29.920 Yeah, what is it about the fourth quarter? 0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:30.320 David? 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.800 You're supposed to finish, not to trample. 0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.600 Well, I'm That's what I'm saying, man. We there's something missing. 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:40.080 We got our foot on the gas, you know, Paul Brown, 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.920 I'm going back to PB's team where you got to 0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:43.759 foot down on the throat. You don't raise the foot 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.839 off somehow, we just keep raising our feet up. We don't. 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.520 We don't know how to We don't have that killer 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.760 killedness at the end of it, the killer instinct of saying, 0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.360 I'm gonna we're going after you. But other teams do 0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:01.360 it to us. There's never a comfortable win. Never. Never, 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.759 you're I'm holding. 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.880 My breath with a fourteen point lead with two minutes 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.600 to go with this club, you're right stepping on the gas, 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:10.920 putting the foot on the throat. 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.600 We don't know how to close, finish and close. Close. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.200 That's it. If we knew how to close the deal. 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.919 You watch the other teams in the NFL how they 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:24.759 closed the deal. How does the day's game become all 0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.480 about the tight ends for Buffalo? That shouldn't happen. I'm 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.520 probably gonna be saying this until the next week is 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.919 old with because it should not happen that a tight 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:37.719 end football with the Buffalo Bills. Now we're talking, we're 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.719 talking Josh Allen, we're talking a good running back and 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.920 Cook and they got some tight ends, and they got 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.600 wide receivers. But the tight ends are the ones who 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.399 beat us today. That's exactly right. 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:55.680 Thirteen targets, eleven catches, one hundred and thirty seven yards, 0:42:55.960 --> 0:43:01.799 Jowson Knox six catches for ninety three, Dalton Kincaid four 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:06.719 catches for forty one and a touchdown, and Jackson Hawes, Yeah, 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.919 one catch, three yards, touchdown. 0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.360 Yeah, ithoudn't happen. And you know that touchdown that he threw. 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:18.000 Guess what there was nobody buying. All of them linebackers 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:23.920 had their numbers facing the quarterback. You can't play football 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.319 until you find the ball. If you don't find the ball, chick, 0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.439 those things are gonna happen. And it happened to us 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:31.160 twice to day. 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:36.719 Oh Josh Allen threaded the needle on that first touch, 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.399 Now he did that was incredible, But. 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.280 You know it was coming. I knew it was coming. 0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.360 I could see. I could see at the line of 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.080 scrimmage that the end to What about the quick passes 0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.319 that they ran, the quick slant, we're not even we're 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.799 not even stopping that right see. And for me to 0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.400 get on the goal line, I've got If I'm a corner, 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.880 I've got help. If I do have help on the inside. 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.879 I've got ten guys inside of me. If I've got help, 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.440 I'll stand outside. But when I don't have help, I 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.080 gotta be head up. I can't give him a way 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.799 to go outside or inside. And we give up the 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.960 inside twice. 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:15.759 And on right before James Cook's fumble in the end zone. Yes, 0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.680 the Cincinnati Bengals corner back in the red zone seven 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:26.000 yards off the line of scrimmage, a quick slant inside, 0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:29.840 you're giving You're giving up a catch inside like the 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.000 five yard line. 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.920 You know when the rule of thumb is when you 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.080 get down inside the end zone or you're on the 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.120 three yard line and you stand on the goal line, 0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.440 you don't back up. You stand there. You make the 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.640 quarterback to have a perfect throw to throw it over 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.440 your head. If you back up and you're two yards 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.759 in the end zone, you just gave that guy two 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.359 yards to catch the ball. And that's what we're doing. 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.919 I don't know what the scheme is asking for them 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.640 to do down in the red zone, but right now 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:01.160 we're really really abysmal in bad in the red zone 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:04.919 because we're giving up touchdowns frequently, not just won every 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.840 blue moon. We're giving up seven six six six points 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.319 in the red zone and it's killing us. Let's go 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:12.160 out to the phones. 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:19.120 Chuck is in New York, Chuck, get there, Chuck. 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.440 Okay. I wonder if he's the Bill's Mafia. 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.160 And I'm in touch with a member of the Bill's Mafia, 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.160 the one who started it, Del Reed. I love you, 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.160 great guy. We exchanged text this week. He said good 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.560 luck to the Bengals, but not too much, you know. 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.160 And I told him, I said, if the Bengals can't 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:41.160 win the Super Bowl, Buffo, I'm rooting for the Buffalo Bill. 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:47.000 They have unbelievable fans. They the Buffalo Bill Mafia fans, 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:51.399 Cincinnati fans, you know, two of the greatest franchises fans 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:52.040 in football. 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.759 Driving into what is at high Mark Stadium, now it's 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.040 got about ten he's had. 0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.760 Ten different names. 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.600 Turning the corner and driving up to high Mark Stadium, 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.880 You've got folks on both sides of the. 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.640 Street and walk. And this was the last game into 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:10.560 that in that stadium. 0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.480 Oh my god. They was the last game into their 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:16.160 new stadium. So unbelievable. But they're lined up drinking their 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:20.360 little back blue. Oh yeah, on both sides of the street. Yeah, 0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.840 tailgating for Miles the awesome. 0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.000 They don't, they don't. They do not stop partying in 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.840 Buffalo until tomorrow. Right now, they're probably gonna having a 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.000 good time right now in Buffalo. 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.719 That's exactly right. Do we have john in Boston. 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.440 Chick David, how are you guys today? 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.320 We are good. We're hanging in Johnny. 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.520 Yeah, that's all we could do right after that one. 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.600 That was an exhausting loss. You know, I want to 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:52.239 get more on the defense here. Obviously, Borrow's interceptions were monumental, 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.000 more of the first one than the second one. The 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.399 second one was a tip. But when you look at 0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.839 the defense, they don't have any wide receivers Buffalo. They 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:03.359 just Brandon Cooks, so you really never self threatened by 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:04.080 the receivers. 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.000 They sit a full job of. 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.800 Covering the tight ends all game long. I mean, that 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.840 should have been priority number two, after making sure Allen 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.120 doesn't beat you with his legs. The Patriots beat the 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.200 Bills earlier when the season held them to twenty points 0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.520 in Buffaloes. They're only lost in the last two plus 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.440 seasons because they were so disciplined on the pass rush 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:22.640 that there weren't lanes for. 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:23.200 Him to run. 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.400 If you have a choice of Josh Allen sitting in 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.920 the pocket and picking you apart or running, let him 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:29.960 try to pick you apart. I don't think he could 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:32.879 have a seven eight nine play drive like Burrow does 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.080 where they go down and meticulously. 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.719 Advance the ball once you open up the running lanes. 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.560 For him, it's total chaos and then that fan base 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.160 goes not that forty one. 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:42.960 Yards down run. 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.359 For me, it was the biggest play of the game 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.239 because you're up ten. He does that, the crowd goes 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.040 n year only down three, the sidelines going nothing. It's 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.399 like faith goes up. At to that point, it played 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.560 pretty garden. They're perfect and they only had a three 0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:55.000 point lead. 0:47:55.880 --> 0:48:01.480 Cedrick Johnson rushed the quarterback but went right casting. 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.239 See that vacated a. 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:08.560 Area and Josh Allen runs a forty yard touchdown. 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:12.480 You know what do we talk about? Angles? Angles and angles, 0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.839 blocking and tackling, throwing and catching angles. So you got 0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.400 two guys rushing, you got one lineman. He's gotta grab 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.040 one of them, and he grabs the inside guy and 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:26.360 the outside guy. You gotta slow down. You can't. You're 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.680 trying to get in there and make this kill shot. 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:33.080 We need short tacklers with smart instincts. When you start, 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.880 when you're free, you gotta break down. You can't just 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.200 run in there like a wrecking ball, thinking you're gonna 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.400 tackle this quarterback. And Josh Allen is not your typical quarterback. 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.799 Josh Allen will bring it to you. He's not getting down, 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.680 so you have to slow down to make a short tackle. 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:50.719 And we didn't do it. 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:52.759 And if you run past him, you're dead. 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.239 You're dead. You're dead. And you saw him running down 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.680 the field and our dB, the dB is covering the receiver. 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.040 Come on, man, the ball it ain't came there yet. 0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.600 Can you turn your head to see what's going on? Oh, 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:06.200 the quarterback's running running, Go make a play. He's still 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.839 running down the field, running with the wide receiver. And 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:12.600 that just tells me is that we're not there. We're 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:16.280 not all there. We're focused on one thing, covering that receiver. 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.920 When the quarterback is running free for sixty yards and 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.960 he's coming towards you just stop, turn around and go 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.520 make a tackle. It's tough. 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.560 It's having a third and fifteen run by Josh Allen. 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:29.200 Right, I'm. 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:32.640 This is going to be an eighteen yard run. Well 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.480 was it an eighteen yard run? It was no surprise 0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:35.319 because again and. 0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.919 You knew it was coming. You knew it was coming. Yeah, 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.000 the essence of Josh Allen. 0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.080 What a what a beast. He's unbelievable. 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:49.759 Nine carries, seventy eight yards. Yeah, Josh Allen is a 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:54.720 quarterback and running back and one tight end and one body. 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.840 The guy was not flown. He will not fall down. 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.080 He's going to challenge you if if you don't hit him, 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.239 he's gonna continue to keep doing that to you. So 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.040 if I'm the defensive guy on defense, I'm not trying 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.640 to hurt you, Josh, but you're gonna you're gonna feel 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:11.239 thirty three all day, you know. And if he keeps 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:13.520 running the ball you hit him, that is not your 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.160 fault that he's a quarterback trying to be a running back. 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.200 You knock his head off. And these guys won't do it. Man, 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:23.719 They're gonna spy him. Can you spy? Let me tell 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:28.520 you something. Every time the Bengals play football, I don't 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.560 care who it is. Next week is Baltimore Ravens. You 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.399 spy a guy? You put a linebacker right there? Five 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.160 six yards off the line of scrimmage and his job, 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.960 his solo job, is to make sure that that quarterback 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:43.240 does not get out of that pocket and take off running. 0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:45.719 If you don't do that, you're gonna lose. And then 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:49.000 you got Lamar Jackson come in here next week. The 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.440 same thing is gonna happen if you do not have 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.600 a spy there, Despy, that guy he's gonna beat you 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:55.160 with his feet. 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.360 Hey, appreciate the costs. We've got to take a break. 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.720 We're live at Wings and Rings, the Kings Mills location, 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.800 and you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:09.640 Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:18.279 at Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the Tri 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:22.880 State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:27.680 He's David Folter and we've got Fulter's Vultures Fulters. This 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:31.840 is Chick Ludwig. There might be a couple of magnets 0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:32.560 in the house. 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:36.759 Magnetig magazine here, but we are talking Bengals football, wall 0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.720 to wall. Great to have four. 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:44.080 Time All American David Folter from Arizona State University with 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:51.040 us a truly legend strip Yes, sir, that's right. Oh 0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.600 my gosh, let's go out to the phones. We've got 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:55.600 Chuck is back from New York. 0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:56.560 Chuck. 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.239 Are you and the Bills Mafia? 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:00.600 Absolutely not. 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.719 I've been a Bengals fan my whole life. What I'm 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:06.840 mad about it his chick is uh. 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.279 You know, when it comes down to Bill's Bengals, this 0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.200 is Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow. 0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:14.120 Right yeah, yeah, r lead. 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.400 Versus dear elite and narly played. 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:22.800 Better than our lead. There's the only way to describe it. 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:30.040 Right, Well, Josh Allen is a monster, and like David said, 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:36.919 he is a combination quarterback, running back, line, h back. Yeah, 0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:41.120 he's everything. He's everything. Joe Burrow is a warrior. 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.040 Joe Burrows are everything to. 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.920 See. If if if I'm and I'm watching Josh Allen, 0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:51.760 I'm watching what the Buffalo Bills do with Josh Allen. 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.640 Josh Allen, if you were watching him when he scrambles, 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.560 he fakes the ball like he's going to throw it 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.279 a lot and people jump, Well, you're supposed to stay 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.920 on your feet. You don't go for the faith. If 0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.799 he throws the ball and you stay on your feet, 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.480 you run through him and you make a tackle. If 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.479 he jumps and throws the ball, or like he's gonna 0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:13.160 jump and throw the ball and he doesn't throw it, 0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:15.280 then you got a chance to make the good tackle. 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:20.480 I don't know why people don't spy him. You know, 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:22.520 I know this sounds crazy because you're gonna wind up 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:22.759 having it. 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:24.480 I agree, but I agree. 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.640 I think that like when when we throwed up the 0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:30.920 game did here at the beginning of teas, it was 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:35.000 Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen was just 0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:35.720 simply better. 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.479 See I beg the difference when I hear people say 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:46.080 Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen, because Joe Burrow is throwing 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:50.280 against the Buffalo Bill's defense, not Josh Allen. Josh Allen 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.319 is playing against the Bengals defense, not Joe Burrow. So 0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.600 when when Josh, when Josh Allen wins the game, you 0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.759 can't get in say Joe Burrow, you lost the game 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:01.399 because Josh Allen beat you. No, the defense didn't stop 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:02.040 Josh Allen. 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.360 Two great quarterbacks. And that's the beauty of the NFL, 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:06.319 that different. 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:12.440 Styles, different styles. Well, that one was better because the 0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.480 other side of the ball let him do what he 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.480 wanted to do and the other one didn't. Them two 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:20.600 interceptions that Joe threw, now I know those were bad 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.440 interceptions and Joe wish you had him back, But it 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:27.200 wasn't Josh Allen intercepting Joe Burrow. It was the defense 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.680 and they lined it up for Joe, for Josh Allen 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:31.960 or Joe Burrow to make a play or not make 0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.319 a play. So I know when it comes up and 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.480 I see people go Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen, well, 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:39.719 you know, Joe Burrow is a quarterback for us and 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.759 Josh was the quarterback of Buffalo. But they still got 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:44.719 to make plays and the defense got to stop him. 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:46.840 I think the game was I think the game was 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.879 lost in the first half when Burrow was scrambling around 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:52.080 and he couldn't connect with Tea because you know, the 0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:53.960 defense as bad as it is. 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:57.960 For us, that that play right there, I'll tell you 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:02.319 you've got a field goal. You're correct that play first 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.719 exactly when Higgins dropped the ball, like, I think those 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.920 were the two key players that of that game. The 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.680 play that Joe scrambled and he threw back across his 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:14.200 body and he just threw the ball over t Higgins. 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:18.040 That was a big play. If Joe connects that play, 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.400 that's an opportunity for them to either go down and 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:22.680 kick a field goal or go down score a touchdown. 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.760 And those are the plays that other teams are making 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.520 on us. If you're talking about the end of the half. Yeah, 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.200 when Joe overthrew team and he was wide open and 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.080 it was just dropping to him, you know, and adrenaline, 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.120 throw the ball too hard, you're. 0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.520 Moving and what happened to get open? But it was 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:39.759 just a mess. Yah. 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.879 Yeah, yeah, you know, you can't get them all and 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.160 and for fortunate for us today we had an opportunity. 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:46.759 Thank you, brother. 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:50.800 That's a lot Chuck. Yes, we've got John and Independence. 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:56.240 Hey John, Hello, fellas, where are you John? 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:57.000 We're good. 0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:00.000 I'm good man considering the loss. 0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:00.920 I'm a lifer, man. 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:01.760 I love the Bangles. 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.160 Same here, man, You're not same here in nineteen sixty eight. 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:10.080 Yeah, well you got me beat by a few years. 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:14.200 You guys do a tremendous show. I think I tuned 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.000 in a lot and thank you for that. 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:19.280 But you're welcome. 0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.080 A lot of people driving a lot of people driving 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:27.600 back home. They're listening. So I appreciate. We appreciate each 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.839 and every listener every day from sea to Shining Sea 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:31.600 and beyond. 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:35.399 Yep, yeah, you guys are great. Thank you. 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:37.520 I don't know. 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:42.160 I thought it was a comment today. I thought, you know, 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:49.600 Zach Taylor has a Porsche referring to the Bengals team. 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:53.799 Why is he being out driven by the other people. 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:54.120 Along the road? 0:56:57.400 --> 0:56:58.319 I didn't hear that one. 0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:00.759 Why is he being driven off the road if he's 0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:01.680 got a Porsche? 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:05.719 Okay, he's got as a team is what I'm what 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:06.600 I'm comparing with. 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:08.880 Okay, he's got a Porsche. 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:13.120 This is a fantastic team. 0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:12.799 Both sides of the ball. 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.920 They do make mistakes, we all do. 0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:20.240 But Beth Taylor has a Porsche for his vehic and. 0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:23.800 Every other vehicle on the road is driving better and 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:27.960 faster than they're winning. Why aren't we winning when we 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:30.680 have a Porsche As a team. 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:35.000 The Bengals cannot close, They cannot close the deal. They 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.120 had the opportunity today with a ten point lead with 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:41.000 eight minutes and forty four seconds to go, and then 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:43.280 two interceptions happened. 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:47.840 Yep, Now we're behind. No, I agree, I agree with you. 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.840 I mean, this is if if we're going to put 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:56.520 vehicles in place of saying this should happen. If we're 0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:00.240 a poors, we're We're not. We're not. We're not putting 0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:01.600 our foot down on the gas pedal. 0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:06.400 The defense was a mash rambler and it got run 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:08.960 over by a runaway. 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.040 Train in the second half. In the fourth quarter, a 0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:15.320 lot of four by four is on that on that 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.520 other team just ran right on top of us. All 0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:19.240 we gotta do is make up. You know, when you 0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.600 look at it, Chick, it's it's it's a play here 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.160 and a play there. Yeah, it's not like it's fifteen 0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:27.040 plays throughout the game that that are. It's a play 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:31.120 here of play there. Third down. Offensively, we were at 0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:33.880 one time, I'm not mistaken we were. We finished the 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.840 game I think nine of eleven or eight ten on 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:42.440 third down eight eight eighty eight percent eighty percent third 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:45.400 down and you don't win the game. Tells me something 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:50.000 wrong and we're missing something somewhere else. So somebody's got 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:52.200 to step up and make a play, or this whole 0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.240 team needs to step up and make a play. And 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:57.240 for some reason, man, we just don't know how to 0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:00.120 close the door. I hear, I hear, I hear our 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:03.760 our our radio broadcast and uh Dave Lapping and Dan 0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:10.080 Horde coffin nails, coffin nails. Well we forgot the hammer, yep, 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.240 because we can't we can't nail put the nail in 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.160 the coffin if we don't do our job. And right 0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:17.000 now we're not doing our job enough. And Johnny, we 0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:18.600 got to run. Appreciate it. 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:23.880 How about thanks, thank you very much. How about Johnny 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:30.640 and West Carrollton? Is that right, Johnny? 0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:34.520 Is he there? How about Hello? 0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:35.240 Help? 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:37.040 Hey? Is this Johnny? 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:38.760 Hello? 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.040 Who do you got talk to us? 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:41.200 Man? 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:41.720 We hear you. 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:44.919 Church? 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:45.360 Question? 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.360 Is louping his asshof right now? 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:51.400 Is Lou laughing? 0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:54.720 Well, if he laughing his asshof right now? 0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:58.120 I don't necessarily they just lost their quarterback. They just 0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:00.600 lost in the quarterback. They probably not laughing, but I will 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:03.920 say that he's probably saying it wasn't my fault in 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:07.919 Cincinnati because I got a team in the Inannapolis. Boy, 1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:09.280 my defense is playing well. 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:14.760 Alabama could put points on us right now. Come on, now, 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:18.920 our defense is terrible. 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:19.560 Come on the. 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:22.880 Face this David Polcher, you're a defensive guy. 1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:26.919 Talk to me now. No, I've said it earlier, Man, 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:28.440 I've said it earlier. 1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:28.640 Man. 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:32.560 Our defense is they're suspect. You know, we're I think 1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:35.640 we're out of place. I know, I know we missed tackles, 1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:38.320 but but I would say that, you know you you 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:40.280 you've got to find a way to make it happen. Man, 1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:42.960 you got eleven guys on defense. They need to have 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.840 that close, closed door meeting. They probably did already, but 1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:50.400 somehow we're not We're not consistent enough. You know, you're 1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:52.200 gonna give him some first downs, you're gonna give up 1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:54.920 a catch, you're gonna give up a run, But you 1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:57.600 can't keep giving up five or six or seven of 1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:02.120 those throughout a game and expect to win. Thank you, man, 1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:02.960 Thanks for carling. 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:06.919 Zach, you for calling Yes, sir, we've got we've got 1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:07.960 Mike and Norwood. 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:14.280 Oh yeah, how about no everybody? 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.600 Did you like call cool and calm? 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:20.760 He what a game we played against the best team 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:23.600 in the WEFC, and we gave him a run for 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.920 the money for the show, and fortunately. 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:28.640 We lost, but it was a good game. 1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:31.720 And I just want to point out that when fifty eight. 1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:36.760 Osiah knocked the scrambling numbers of that dude at the 1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:38.960 one yard line and he fumbled and should have been 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:40.360 a touchback, and that would. 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:40.960 Have changed his school. 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:44.280 All right, Mike, I appreciate the call. 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And now 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:06.240 post games Sports Talk. 1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:12.720 You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:17.120 Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW and 1:03:17.240 --> 1:03:21.000 Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. And we're live at Wings and 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:26.680 Rings the King's Mills location fifty five seventeen King Center Drive, 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:30.800 really within the shadows of King's Island. Yeah, this is 1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:36.440 Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside Bengals legendary strong safety David 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:41.280 Folter faux Rock. His wife, Judy's here, the family's here. 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:45.080 Judy just had a birthday. Happy birthday, Judi birthday girl. 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:45.800 Awesome. 1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:48.440 And we are breaking down the Bengals thirty nine to 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:52.240 thirty four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball. 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:56.720 Mike Mills is are awesome. On site engineer Shoeless Joe 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.440 Waddell producing back in our Kenwood studios. 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:01.440 Shoeless Joe like that. 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:08.160 Wings Burgers, Sandwiches, Salads, appetizers, drink specials, wings and rings, 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:11.080 has it all. And we're here on the King Center 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:15.240 Drive till eight thirty tonight. If you can't join us live, 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:18.520 I hope you'll call us at five one, three, seven 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:21.320 four nine, seven thousand and before we go out to 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:26.040 the phones, let's look at the Guilty Windows Window of 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:29.640 opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key to 1:04:29.800 --> 1:04:37.360 quality windows is trusting the pros Kilkey windows. How about 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:42.160 DJ Turner knocking the ball out of the grasp of 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:46.520 James cook Yes, and it's squirts loose in the end 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:52.439 zone and linebacker or in Burks yep, chucks on it yep. 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:56.000 And that started a big time drive for the Bengals. 1:04:56.040 --> 1:04:59.280 And those are the opportunities that this defense can take 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:00.800 and have little chance is to give it back to 1:05:00.840 --> 1:05:04.480 an offense that was clicking. This offense was on fire today. 1:05:04.760 --> 1:05:07.240 They were doing exactly what they wanted to do against Buffalo. 1:05:07.560 --> 1:05:10.280 It's just that we just don't do enough to close 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:10.640 the door. 1:05:10.960 --> 1:05:15.080 And that's why it was twenty one to eighteen, James 1:05:15.080 --> 1:05:17.560 Cooks getting ready to go into the end zone give 1:05:17.600 --> 1:05:20.439 Buffalo a lead. And when the Bengals got that ball 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:23.440 with the twenty yard line, I said, here we go. 1:05:23.760 --> 1:05:25.920 I said, I'm starting to feel pretty good about a 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:26.720 dub today. 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:28.480 And I felt the same way man when they were 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:30.560 up fourteen three, I said, you know what if they 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:34.760 can just maintain yeah, what they're doing, And they did 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:38.320 that first three drives, three touchdowns, all of a sudden, 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:40.680 you gotta make some adjustments, and that's what Buffalo did 1:05:40.720 --> 1:05:42.320 to slow them down a little bit. And then we 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:45.600 can't get the ball in the end home for another 1:05:45.680 --> 1:05:46.480 quarter and a half. 1:05:47.040 --> 1:05:49.680 Let's go out to the phones, Jim in the great 1:05:49.720 --> 1:05:51.160 state of Arkansas? 1:05:51.280 --> 1:05:53.040 Are you there, Jim? 1:05:53.600 --> 1:05:55.000 I am here. 1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:58.760 Thank you for holding, but not a problem. 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.160 I'm glad I finally they can pick up W L 1:06:01.360 --> 1:06:04.160 W because I kind of lost it touch with everything 1:06:04.280 --> 1:06:07.960 on the way down. But a couple of things, Uh, 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:11.240 I've coached a little bit in my life high school. 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:16.760 And you're talking about the linebackers and what I see, David, 1:06:16.800 --> 1:06:20.720 and you know better than me, I believe it looks 1:06:20.760 --> 1:06:23.800 like our linebackers are setting up too deep and our 1:06:23.880 --> 1:06:30.160 defensive backs are setting up too shallow. So it looks 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:32.800 like the linebackers got to get turned around and to 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:35.720 get their feet tangled up because they want to back. 1:06:35.880 --> 1:06:40.720 They want to back battle instead of a slide and sideways. 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.720 And what upset me to boast about it is I 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:49.040 listened to Ken and Brew this morning, and the guy 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:51.880 that he has on there every week to forecast the 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:56.680 games and whatever, he said that the Fingals are terrible 1:06:57.120 --> 1:07:01.120 at covering the tied ends and that's would be the 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:04.800 down fall. And that's exactly what happened. So this guy 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:07.280 knows it, why can't we stop it? 1:07:08.240 --> 1:07:08.479 Well? 1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:10.960 And Dan Horde during the broadcast, the voice of the 1:07:10.960 --> 1:07:15.000 Bengals gave this stat that the Bengals are the worst 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:17.760 team in the league covering the tight ends. They're giving 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:20.720 up ninety three point four yards. 1:07:20.320 --> 1:07:24.960 A game to the titles tight end. Wow, that's a hun. Wow, 1:07:25.080 --> 1:07:29.440 that's bad. That's really bad. And you know, strong safeties, 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:33.400 free safeties. They switched on a movement and guy goes 1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:35.680 in motion, this guy goes up, this guy go back. 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:39.880 But you're gonna see safeties playing man and man on 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:43.160 tight ends. Most linebackers don't play man and man on 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:45.000 tight ends. They play man and man on the running 1:07:45.000 --> 1:07:48.160 backs coming out of the backfield. But every time I 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:49.960 look up and I see our defense, and I'm not 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:55.000 I guess I'm kind of overwhelmed and I'm tired of 1:07:55.040 --> 1:07:58.240 seeing how bad they are. You see their backs, but 1:07:58.320 --> 1:08:01.080 you see their backs when I when I watched them, 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:05.200 they especially in the red zone, in the end zone. 1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:08.000 You know they're playing zone and the end zone. Okay, 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:11.320 so when they're plan zoning the end zone, it's hard 1:08:11.320 --> 1:08:13.720 to cover a guy plans on because you don't know 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:16.160 where he's going. But when you get inside the five 1:08:16.240 --> 1:08:19.800 yard line and it's a pass play, you've become It 1:08:19.840 --> 1:08:24.719 becomes man to man. Now on the receiver, tight end, receiver, 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:28.760 running back. But you can't turn your back to the 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:32.080 quarterback because when you turn your back to the quarterback. 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:34.679 It happened to us in the Jets game. It happened 1:08:34.720 --> 1:08:37.560 to us in the Bears game. All of our touchdowns 1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:40.040 that we've been giving up late in the game are 1:08:40.439 --> 1:08:44.120 having defensive backs with their backs to the quarterback. You 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:46.519 don't know what the guy's doing. That touchdown that johnsh 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:49.640 Allen threw to that receiver, a linebacker was right in 1:08:49.680 --> 1:08:52.360 his face, but he was looking at the receiver and 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:55.280 the balls coming right behind him. If he just turns 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:58.120 his head and look back. He either intercept the ball 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:02.200 or knock it down. And we to me, that's coaching. 1:09:02.640 --> 1:09:03.400 That's teaching. 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:07.000 Well you're teaching. If that's what you're teaching, is bad. 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:11.479 That was the touchdown to Shakir one of their wide receivers. 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:15.559 Yes, I mean, come on, now, the linebacker's not playing 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:18.479 man and man on the receiver, but he's playing zone. 1:09:19.000 --> 1:09:20.800 But if you're playing zone and you got your back 1:09:20.800 --> 1:09:23.280 to the quarterback, you have no idea what's coming. You're right. 1:09:24.040 --> 1:09:27.000 The long run touchdown that he had, the long touchdown 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:30.000 that Josh Allen had, the defensive back was looking at 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:33.400 the receiver as they were running down the field. After 1:09:33.520 --> 1:09:37.280 five or ten yards and running with the receiver, something's happening. 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:39.640 Turn your head and try to find the ball to 1:09:39.680 --> 1:09:42.120 see what's going on. You turn around, you make a 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:45.320 tackle on Josh Fallen, and maybe there's an opportunity to 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:48.519 keep them from scoring a touchdown or kick a field goal. Tough. 1:09:49.040 --> 1:09:52.000 What I've seen a couple of times is when a 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:55.480 quarterback takes off once he crosses that line of scrimmage, 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:58.080 there's no need for you to keep covering that receiver. 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:00.280 You've got to go back, like you said, and make 1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:05.200 to tackle me. But I've correct too many times many. 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.360 So let me ask you a question. Why you're listening 1:10:07.360 --> 1:10:11.360 and you see this? Is this a is this a 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:15.479 is this a coach? Is this coaching? Or was this player? 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:18.679 Because if you're teaching me how to play football or 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:23.000 in a system, I shouldn't be coached to keep my 1:10:23.120 --> 1:10:27.000 back away from the quarterback. So what are these guys 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:30.200 doing and where they're getting that from? 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:35.280 Yeah, that's that's that's Yeah, that you know it because 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:38.040 those are basics, David. Those are basics. 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:41.840 That is that's the stuff that we teaching. That's the 1:10:41.840 --> 1:10:45.080 stuff we teaching Pop Warner football. That's the stuff we 1:10:45.200 --> 1:10:47.479 teach in high school and college. And when you get 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:50.160 to the professional rankings, you should know what to do. 1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:52.679 And Jim and Jim we got to run. 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:53.680 Thank you, Jim. 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:57.479 Hey, I appreciate the call. All right, take care of 1:10:57.680 --> 1:10:59.320 Donald in Nashville. 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:04.400 Donald, are you there, yes, sir? 1:11:04.479 --> 1:11:04.760 Thank you? 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:07.080 Everything gonna call, yes, sir. 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.679 But I just wanted just to make up of comments 1:11:10.680 --> 1:11:12.479 about the game today. 1:11:12.520 --> 1:11:14.280 I guess I've got some questions. 1:11:13.880 --> 1:11:17.800 That the morning answers. I guess number one, do you 1:11:18.000 --> 1:11:21.280 do we still have an outside chance of getting. 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:21.680 In the playoffs. 1:11:21.880 --> 1:11:23.400 I mean, it's a really a good chance. 1:11:24.800 --> 1:11:27.000 And then number two, three games out with four to go, 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:29.679 there is still there's still a chance. 1:11:29.960 --> 1:11:33.479 Yep, there's still a chance because that we still got 1:11:33.520 --> 1:11:36.800 to play Baltimore, Pittsburgh, still got to play some teams 1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:39.639 that we've already played. So there's a lot of stuff 1:11:39.680 --> 1:11:43.800 that can happen. Being down three three games with four 1:11:43.920 --> 1:11:48.080 left to play, we put it this way, today would 1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:50.200 have been a perfect day for us to keep the playoffs, 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:56.280 hope alive with a serious opportunity. But that window of opportunity, 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:58.759 as we talk about here, that window was starting to close, 1:11:58.840 --> 1:12:01.280 if it's not already closed. But they just got to 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:03.920 go out and play. I mean, it's football. You gotta battle. 1:12:04.040 --> 1:12:05.960 If you don't battle, then you shouldn't be playing. 1:12:06.960 --> 1:12:10.400 But another question I asked was do you think that 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:15.200 Zach has lost the way to get in contact with 1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:17.000 the players of making them stepped up. 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:22.360 Wow, that's a pretty good question. I don't know if 1:12:22.439 --> 1:12:27.240 Zach has lost what's going on because I think it's 1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:30.040 more to me. I've never blamed anything on a coach. 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:32.320 It's my job to do what I'm supposed to do. 1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:35.040 Chick and I are on radio right now doing our job. 1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:36.880 I got a text from wild Man Walker, how you 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:39.599 doing homes He was talking about the Bengals and blah 1:12:39.600 --> 1:12:42.000 blah blah, and if Chick and I don't do our job, 1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:46.000 they're gonna find replacements. Yes, And when they find replacements, 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:49.000 that replacement better be better than Chicken David, because if they're not, 1:12:49.680 --> 1:12:52.479 they're gonna bring David and Chick back. So when I'm 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:56.040 looking at this football team and what Zach had four 1:12:56.120 --> 1:12:59.519 or five years ago, it doesn't look the same. You've 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:02.720 changed the defensive coordinators, You've changed players in and out, 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:05.600 because that's what the football. It's a care sale. You 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:07.479 go from one team to the next team, and you're 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:10.360 trying to audition for another team just in case you 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:13.439 get released or cut from one team. I don't know. 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:17.280 I'm not going to say he doesn't have the player's attention, 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:20.200 but it doesn't look like it did three or four 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:20.719 years ago. 1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:27.000 My last question with y'all is is Henderson is he 1:13:27.080 --> 1:13:28.639 coming back or is he done for the year. 1:13:30.600 --> 1:13:33.679 That's a great question. I don't know. Man, whatever is back, 1:13:33.760 --> 1:13:35.720 his back is bothering him. I did see the hit 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:38.719 that when it happened that lineman came out of nowhere 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:40.320 and just dusted him in the back and he wasn't 1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:45.639 ready for it. But I'm not He walked off the field, 1:13:46.160 --> 1:13:49.439 So why is he not playing? With all the therapy 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:51.360 and all the stuff that the NFL and the players 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:53.559 got to day, they can go in there right now 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:55.599 and rub a wand on his back and he should 1:13:55.640 --> 1:13:59.360 be playing on Sunday nine. So twenty nine million dollars 1:13:59.360 --> 1:14:01.799 that pays. He's coming in and he is not complaining. 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:03.519 Thank you, brother. 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:05.000 We appreciate st we got to run. 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:05.920 I appreciate it. 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:15.800 Jesse in Forest Park, Jesse, are you there? How about 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:17.320 Mike and Cherry Grove? 1:14:18.720 --> 1:14:19.800 Hey, guys, how you doing? 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:22.080 We are good hanging in here? 1:14:22.360 --> 1:14:22.920 Oh good? 1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:23.400 Heay. 1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:28.120 Just a couple of things. When you play, Josh Allen, 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:33.560 I think give your number one priority is to have 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:38.680 somebody filling lane so he can't run the way he does. Now, 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:42.679 he's a good player, but there was nobody, I mean 1:14:42.920 --> 1:14:47.760 nobody in his way. And look, you were talking about 1:14:47.800 --> 1:14:50.800 a spy or whatever. You gotta do something to cut 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:51.880 off the channels, don't you. 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:55.800 I don't understand that. Well, I'll tell you this here, man. 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:58.080 We had a spy. We had a spy on this 1:14:58.160 --> 1:15:01.040 team a couple of years ago. We had a spiral 1:15:01.080 --> 1:15:02.280 and to seem a couple of years ago, and his 1:15:02.360 --> 1:15:04.960 name was Mike Hilton. Mike Hilton was standing there. He's 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:07.840 five foot seven, you know, one hundred and eighty pounds. 1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:11.000 But Mike Hilton can run, he can make sure tackles. Well, 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:13.719 this defensive coordinator didn't want Mike Hilton. He's too small. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:18.360 But this guy plays. He made plays. So if I'm 1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:22.960 saying that I need somebody to chase the quarterback around 1:15:23.200 --> 1:15:26.800 like Josh Allen, I'm making a phone call to bring 1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:28.960 Mike Hilton back. If I don't have a Mike Hilton 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:32.040 on my team, somebody's gotta be Mike Hilton for me 1:15:32.160 --> 1:15:34.880 to do what I need to get done. Because you know, 1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:39.679 Josh Allen is gonna run first. And that's what people 1:15:39.720 --> 1:15:42.280 don't realize about Josh Allen. As much as Josh Allen 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:44.880 throws the ball and he's got all these touchdowns, he 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:47.679 really wants to run the football first before throw the ball. 1:15:47.800 --> 1:15:50.719 He's got the most because that dude is so strong 1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:53.679 that he is gonna run through people. So that means 1:15:53.720 --> 1:15:56.400 I got to have somebody be married to him all 1:15:56.560 --> 1:15:59.040 through the game. Wherever he goes, you go. 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:03.920 Your number one priority against ten is to stop the runs. 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:07.360 You gotta make the second thing. 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:09.280 I don't know. 1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:13.520 The Bengals were gashing them all over the field. Casecki's 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:17.200 catching balls. Everything's looking great. You're at the thirty something 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:20.360 yard line first and ten, and you throw a little 1:16:20.400 --> 1:16:21.960 swing pass out for the right. 1:16:22.320 --> 1:16:23.919 Why don't you go for the juggler. 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:26.760 Now, Chase may have been open, maybe he might have 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:29.640 picked up some yards, But how many screens did they 1:16:29.640 --> 1:16:30.160 throw today? 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:31.080 Was that the only one? 1:16:31.160 --> 1:16:33.680 I mean, throw the ball down the field because they 1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:35.879 haven't stopped you. I don't understand why. 1:16:35.680 --> 1:16:37.400 That play call was made at that moment. 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:38.400 Do you agree with you? 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:38.479 Know? 1:16:39.280 --> 1:16:41.280 Yeah, I agree with you. I said the same thing. 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:44.840 Here we are, we're up four points, three points, I 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:47.160 don't know what we were up five minutes left in 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:51.479 the game. We got the football, run the ball, make 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:56.000 make make them stop my running game. If they can't 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:58.559 stop the running game, we run the clock out. Games 1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:01.800 over and we come home happy. Bengals up three, but 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:04.360 we're up. We're up three with a chance, and. 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:07.280 You're on Buffalo's thirty three yard line first down. 1:17:07.360 --> 1:17:09.000 Come on, y'all, I mean, come on, they don't take 1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:11.719 a rocket scientist to fix this. It doesn't. 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:15.120 I mean we We've got a running back that can 1:17:15.680 --> 1:17:24.599 pound the ball. The guy's a beat, give him the ball, 1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:27.680 take a three yards, stay ahead of the chain, and 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:31.040 finish the game. You know, I just I thought that 1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:33.760 play call was stupid and get hurt. 1:17:34.160 --> 1:17:36.960 Thanks a lot, all right, thanks so much. No, that 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.559 makes it, makes it makes sense, chick. I mean, you 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:41.439 know p Ryan. You know, as much as I love 1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:43.599 Chase Brown, I love Peter Ryan. I love them both. 1:17:43.640 --> 1:17:46.400 That's a that's a good one to two combination. You 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:49.200 got the bruiser and you got the gifted guy that 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:52.519 can run the ball. But we we we we try 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:56.800 to at this think. We try to create stuff that's 1:17:56.840 --> 1:18:00.800 not there. Don't create something, don't fix it. If it's 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:04.400 not broke, run the ball, beat them up, make Buffalo 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:07.559 do something to stop you. And if they don't stop you, 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:09.960 you win the football game. With the pounding on the ground. 1:18:11.320 --> 1:18:14.840 It's French pastry versus meeting potatoes. 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:18.240 We want the meeting potatoes, don't we we want to 1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:21.040 meet potatoes man, but they're not serving that today. But 1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:23.519 they're not serving the meeting potatoes man, we can't eat it. 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:27.920 He just likes the French pastry. He likes the pastries. 1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:30.040 The ball in the air, he likes the ball in 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:31.960 the are. He wants to see his quarterback, Joe Burrow 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.760 throw for full five hundred yards and full touchdowns. But 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:37.200 you know what, man, I would take a win with 1:18:37.320 --> 1:18:39.360 my running back rushing for one hundred and fifty yards 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:42.640 two hundred yards. And then look at Chase Chasing. They 1:18:42.800 --> 1:18:43.639 have a lot of catches. 1:18:43.760 --> 1:18:48.320 Twelve carries for Chase Brown twenty three yards. 1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:51.040 That's one point nine yards of carry. 1:18:51.320 --> 1:18:54.840 Samaja only carried it six times, but for thirty one 1:18:54.920 --> 1:18:56.479 yards that's five point two. 1:18:56.840 --> 1:18:58.840 Because we want to throw the football up and down 1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:01.240 the field, and it makes every happy when Joe Burrow 1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:05.840 throws touchdowns. Ugly football is when you run the football 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:08.800 and you just beat people up. Nobody wants to see that. 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:11.240 But you know what, I would rather win a game 1:19:11.920 --> 1:19:15.680 by pounding the ball twenty times than throwing having my 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:17.320 quarterback go to the ball forty times. 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:20.559 What did we learn watching the Steelers over the years, 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:24.400 they would get a lead and then Jerome Bettis or 1:19:24.520 --> 1:19:27.400 any of them, any of them pound you in the 1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:31.559 fourth quarter, shorten the game, get out of dodge and 1:19:31.680 --> 1:19:33.040 meaning we've got. 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:33.639 To take a break. 1:19:35.640 --> 1:19:38.719 You are listening to the tri State Chevy Dealers postgame 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:42.880 sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folcher. This 1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:46.160 is Chick Ludwig. Where at Wings and Rings that Kings 1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:51.000 Mills location on Kings Center Drive in Mason. We're here 1:19:51.720 --> 1:19:55.880 till eight thirty tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's 1:19:56.120 --> 1:20:03.960 ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the tri State Chevy 1:20:03.960 --> 1:20:07.840 Dealers post games sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We 1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:10.759 are live at Wings and Rings that Kings Mills location 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:16.280 fifty five seventeen King Center Drive. He's David Fulter. This 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:21.280 is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty, 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:25.080 continuing to break down the Bengals thirty nine to thirty 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:28.360 four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball, 1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:30.360 and there's a there were a bunch of Bills fans 1:20:30.680 --> 1:20:32.600 in the house tonight, Yes they were, and I just 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:35.639 wish them all the best. They were happy with the win. 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:37.920 They need a few more so do the Bengals? 1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:40.320 Man, Yes, they do. Yes, three games out with four 1:20:40.400 --> 1:20:43.679 to go. Uh huh. It's a tough place, tough place 1:20:43.720 --> 1:20:44.080 to be in. 1:20:44.880 --> 1:20:48.639 It's like the Super Bowl season, David. Every break went 1:20:48.720 --> 1:20:52.720 our way, the Bengals way, and now we're paying for 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:53.160 it all. 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:56.599 You know, it's sad, man, because this is a good 1:20:56.600 --> 1:20:59.880 football team, this is a great city to be playing for. 1:21:00.880 --> 1:21:03.240 We got everything that you can act possibly ask for, 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:06.800 but we just can't win a game. Can't win a game. 1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:11.600 Let's uh, let's go back out to the phones. Do 1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:17.080 we still have carl and Oak Hills? And how about 1:21:17.720 --> 1:21:19.280 Kevin in Texas? 1:21:19.800 --> 1:21:20.520 Texas? 1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:23.160 Hey, how y'all doing this season? 1:21:24.040 --> 1:21:26.439 We are doing well, my friends. Thank you Kevin. 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:29.920 Yes, hey, David, I want to say something right up front. 1:21:30.479 --> 1:21:32.800 Thank you for all those memories. 1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:34.680 In the nineteen eighty eight Super Bowl season. 1:21:34.439 --> 1:21:38.360 Eighty eight eighty nine. I was in tech school. 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:43.000 At Rant, Illinois going through Air Force Tech training, and 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:46.320 you gave me something good to look forward to while 1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:49.439 I was going through hell getting through air Force Tech training. 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:50.439 So thank you for that. 1:21:51.280 --> 1:21:52.240 Appreciate you man. 1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:57.479 Wow, my big thing is when you watch what happened 1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:00.920 today when we got into the fourth quarter, why did 1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:06.479 Zach Taylor abandon the run? Why did we not put 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:09.080 some extra tight ends out there, or some extra. 1:22:08.880 --> 1:22:12.639 Linemen and rely on p rind and. 1:22:12.600 --> 1:22:15.519 Make the Buffalo Bills take that game away from us? 1:22:16.000 --> 1:22:18.600 Because I feel like we just gave it away. 1:22:19.600 --> 1:22:22.400 You know, you make a great point, man, and valid point, 1:22:22.479 --> 1:22:26.040 but it's a I asked myself the same thing. I'm 1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:28.640 not a coach, so I don't call offensive plays. I 1:22:28.760 --> 1:22:32.840 just watch just like everybody else watching, and you just hindsighted. 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:36.360 Twenty twenty, Zach Taylor saw something oh yeah, that he 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:39.880 thought was really good for the team, and I was 1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:42.400 just shocked that they went away from I know they 1:22:42.479 --> 1:22:45.760 wasn't running the ball really well, but late in the game, 1:22:45.840 --> 1:22:47.840 you got five minutes, six minutes left in the game 1:22:47.880 --> 1:22:50.800 and you got the ball and you're winning. You forced 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:54.479 the other team to stop you running the football. But 1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:56.719 we don't do that. We do something different. Joe throw's 1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:59.439 an interception. Now we got to come back and try 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:02.160 to get back into the game. We throw another interception, 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:06.640 and now the game is over. It's like mismanagement or 1:23:06.760 --> 1:23:10.559 clock management. Or bad time to call that play. But 1:23:10.680 --> 1:23:12.920 like I said, once again, he's the offense aveccording to 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:15.639 the head coach, he calls a play. If they scored 1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:19.920 a touchdown, if Joe don't throw that interception and Chase 1:23:19.960 --> 1:23:24.160 catches that football, everybody's going to say, great call. But 1:23:24.479 --> 1:23:26.639 when it didn't happen the way we wanted to, now 1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:29.400 we want to call it a bad call. Tough man, 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:32.679 tough being ahead coach, oh tough being an NFL player. 1:23:32.760 --> 1:23:38.280 It is tough. Hey appreciate it, Kevin, Thank you very much. keV, 1:23:38.320 --> 1:23:38.880 thank you man. 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:43.080 And let's David. Let's highlight the drive of the game. 1:23:43.320 --> 1:23:46.000 And it's brought to you by the BMW Store. There 1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:48.960 are over three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the 1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:52.880 United States, but there's only one store, the BMW Store 1:23:53.080 --> 1:23:59.600 where Passion Loves Company. And following the window of opportunity 1:23:59.680 --> 1:24:03.960 where they got the fumble in the end zone caused 1:24:03.960 --> 1:24:09.400 by DJ Turner, yes recovered by Owen Burks or in Burks, 1:24:10.120 --> 1:24:11.360 the Bengals. 1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:13.080 Go on a twelve. 1:24:12.760 --> 1:24:16.840 Play, eighty yard drive that chewed up seven minutes and 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:22.240 two seconds and it ended with Mike Kasicki's twelve yard 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:23.799 reception from Joe Burrow. 1:24:24.080 --> 1:24:28.479 What a beautiful pass. He's just he throws a beautiful ball. 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:31.520 He catch a ball, and the Bengals. 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:34.519 Go up twenty eight to eighteen with eight forty four 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:34.800 to go. 1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:38.479 I already had the w in the post. Yes, that's 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:39.439 what we're thinking. 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:44.799 And one minute and eleven seconds later, Josh Allen sprints 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:48.240 forty yards untouched into the end zone. 1:24:48.400 --> 1:24:48.599 Yeah. 1:24:48.680 --> 1:24:52.520 That to me, That to me. I just don't understand 1:24:52.640 --> 1:24:57.280 what defensive play call. You know, Josh Allen is going 1:24:57.320 --> 1:24:59.680 to run the ball. He is going to run the 1:24:59.680 --> 1:25:05.000 ball before he throws the football. And sure enough the 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:09.760 third down and fifteens, third and seventeens. I don't, I don't. 1:25:10.920 --> 1:25:13.800 We have to be the worst when it comes to 1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:18.599 third down getting off the field. We cannot get off 1:25:18.600 --> 1:25:20.879 the field on third down. We cannot. 1:25:21.920 --> 1:25:25.040 And the Bengals converted eight of ten eight or down, 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:28.240 including all four on their first drive. 1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:32.599 And you don't win that. That That is that right 1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:36.880 there is heartening disheartening to play like you played today. 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:39.400 On both sides of the ball. We knew Buffalo was 1:25:39.439 --> 1:25:41.400 gonna put some points on the ball. We knew they 1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:44.080 were going to move to football they're at home. That 1:25:44.160 --> 1:25:47.679 team don't lose at home much. But to go out 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:55.400 there and three first drives for touchdowns, yes, and then 1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:56.880 we took the you know, it took a little break 1:25:57.200 --> 1:25:59.960 to twenty one to eleven. We're ahead twenty one eleven, 1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:02.280 had a chance to go up some more points before 1:26:02.280 --> 1:26:06.160 the end of the half, and we don't. But I 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:08.879 just knew we had this game won. I think Buffalo 1:26:09.000 --> 1:26:11.840 knew they lost this game. But you know what, you 1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:14.320 don't lose a game in the second quarter. You lose 1:26:14.320 --> 1:26:16.360 the game in the fourth quarter. And we didn't. We 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:18.800 didn't show up to play. They scored twenty eight in 1:26:18.880 --> 1:26:22.160 the second half, twenty one in the fourth quarter, twenty 1:26:22.200 --> 1:26:24.240 one points giving up in the fourth quarter. That right, 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:27.360 there is a disaster waiting to happen, and we got 1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:28.400 that disaster today. 1:26:28.680 --> 1:26:33.639 Let's go out to the phones. John is in Middletown, John, Yes, sir. 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:36.960 Man, guys, you know with everything, you know, as I 1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:40.360 always say, everything that happened in that game to the end, 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:41.720 like I always. 1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:45.000 Say, it's in the game, right, but it's third and fifteen, right, 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:48.320 third and fifteen, You're still in the game. With every 1:26:48.479 --> 1:26:51.720 kakamami thing, that happen, right, You're still in the game. 1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:52.599 If you stop them. 1:26:52.640 --> 1:26:54.719 They haven't been able to stop you all day long. 1:26:55.160 --> 1:26:57.200 If you stop this third and fifth geame play, you 1:26:57.200 --> 1:26:59.080 get the ball back of what a minute forty. 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:02.679 But somewhere around there. Okay, they will stop you. Okay, 1:27:02.960 --> 1:27:03.400 what did. 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:05.040 They do third and fifteen? 1:27:05.080 --> 1:27:07.000 You know they don't want to pass that Buffalo does 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:09.160 not want to really pass it less they have to, right, 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:11.799 So what they're gonna do is they're gonna send everybody deep. 1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:14.840 And give Johnson room to run. The Bengals act like 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:18.639 they had no idea, no idea that was gonna happen. 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:20.400 No spies, no nothing. 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:22.960 That's what feed us today is that right there, and 1:27:23.080 --> 1:27:24.280 they act like all. 1:27:24.280 --> 1:27:25.960 Day long they didn't know he was gonna run. 1:27:26.160 --> 1:27:28.760 They're gonna have to fix that. And another thing I noticed, 1:27:28.760 --> 1:27:30.560 they're gonna have somebody on the sideline. It's gonna have 1:27:30.560 --> 1:27:33.400 to keep Joe's fans warm. Okay, that had a little 1:27:33.400 --> 1:27:36.000 bit to do with that. In a session, the staff, 1:27:36.120 --> 1:27:38.320 they're gonna have to work on that. Guys, keep this 1:27:38.439 --> 1:27:39.519 man's hands warm. 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:40.840 And I'm still with you. 1:27:40.920 --> 1:27:42.120 I'm still with the Bengals no. 1:27:42.040 --> 1:27:44.120 Matter what I mean, I want the Bengals to lose 1:27:44.160 --> 1:27:46.320 a million times before I watched any team win once. 1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:47.960 It's it, That's all I got. 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:52.000 All right, appreciate it, John, and our good friend in 1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:55.120 Mason Ohio. Ken, wish you were here. 1:27:55.280 --> 1:27:58.320 Ken, Yeah, I'm check on you. 1:27:58.360 --> 1:28:00.000 And full Rocker doing quite a show. 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:01.679 So pull Rocket. 1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:07.400 A defensive coordinator named Dick Lebou who ran the famous 1:28:07.479 --> 1:28:11.200 zone blitz, which I think is the best NFL scheme 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:14.120 that's ever been invented. Steve Spagnola believes that he's been 1:28:14.120 --> 1:28:18.360 doing it for the last twelve years. You know, these guys, 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:22.080 I think it's a lack of communication, and I don't 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:24.599 think they have an identity David. I don't think they 1:28:24.720 --> 1:28:27.200 hit hard. I don't see a Barney Bussy. I certainly 1:28:27.240 --> 1:28:30.040 don't see a David Pulcher out there on the field. 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:31.759 I don't see a Tim Crumry. 1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:34.800 I don't see people that really want to hit. You know, 1:28:34.840 --> 1:28:37.840 on this defense, it looks as soft as I've ever seen. 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:42.040 Oh I thought they I thought they were better. I mean, 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:44.599 there are times in this game that when things happen, 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:46.960 you know, you got to take care of business. But 1:28:47.040 --> 1:28:49.760 when when you're looking at third down and fifteen and 1:28:49.800 --> 1:28:52.640 you're going to play some man because that's what they 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:55.120 were doing. They were playing a single high safety, which 1:28:55.160 --> 1:29:01.760 is a oh, shoot, what's twenty two's name safety? I 1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:05.759 lost Geno Stone. Gino Stone's playing free safety. He's free. 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:08.280 Everybody else is playing man and man. And when Josh 1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:10.880 Allen came through that line of scrimmage, it was Geno 1:29:11.000 --> 1:29:12.880 Stone who was right there to try to make a 1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:16.120 tackle after about twelve yard run and he missed it 1:29:16.520 --> 1:29:19.200 wind up getting the first down. But you've got a 1:29:19.280 --> 1:29:22.000 plan for that, you know. My thing is this third 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:24.479 down and fifteen, and you're gonna play man or zone, 1:29:25.120 --> 1:29:27.960 you know, put some pressure on the quarterback and make 1:29:28.040 --> 1:29:30.519 him throw the ball quick, get the ball out of 1:29:30.560 --> 1:29:32.080 his hand. He might throw a little quick to the 1:29:32.280 --> 1:29:34.680 pass to the back of check down. Instead of you're 1:29:34.680 --> 1:29:36.840 giving up fifteen, you give up seven, and now they 1:29:36.880 --> 1:29:39.880 get to punt the ball. But we I don't know, man, 1:29:39.920 --> 1:29:42.800 I just you know, Josh Allen's gonna run the ball. 1:29:43.000 --> 1:29:46.519 He's gonna run the football, and we just can't defend it. 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.120 And that's what makes it tough. 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:49.639 David. 1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:52.080 You talk about the defensive backs having their back turn 1:29:52.120 --> 1:29:55.200 to the quarterback. There's an old basketball concept they used 1:29:55.240 --> 1:29:58.600 in the football a lot called ball you man, you 1:29:58.720 --> 1:30:01.439 always keep that concept if you never turn your head 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:03.479 away from the quarterback, you never turn your. 1:30:03.600 --> 1:30:06.600 Way from the never never, never do, never do. And 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:09.760 I'm telling you I have seen it weekend and week out. 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:14.040 And who's teaching that? Is that? What the defensive coordinator 1:30:14.120 --> 1:30:16.880 or your defensive back coach teaching that. When you get 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:19.240 down in the red zone, you turn your back from 1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:21.320 the quarterback. You don't know if he's running the ball 1:30:21.400 --> 1:30:25.320 or throwing the ball. Josh Allen's big long touchdown dB 1:30:25.479 --> 1:30:28.160 is running down the field with a receiver he never knows. 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.800 He don't even know that Josh Allen is running until 1:30:30.840 --> 1:30:33.960 it's too late. Come on, guys, you gotta be more aware. 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:36.040 You have to be more aware of what's going on 1:30:36.160 --> 1:30:38.519 in the game than what the coach is telling you. 1:30:38.840 --> 1:30:40.720 On the sideline doing a break. 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:45.920 By David, you're right five yards in. You're playing man 1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:47.840 up right in your face, and then you make the 1:30:47.920 --> 1:30:49.240 quarterback throw it over your head. 1:30:49.280 --> 1:30:50.320 You don't that's. 1:30:50.400 --> 1:30:51.280 Play a zone. 1:30:51.360 --> 1:30:55.120 You don't stay five yards off your man. You're allowing 1:30:55.160 --> 1:30:56.760 him to make a cut one way or the other. 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:01.599 Hey, you gotta make It's it's funny, man. You gotta 1:31:01.640 --> 1:31:05.800 make quarterbacks or people throw the ball over your head. 1:31:05.840 --> 1:31:07.680 You get on the goal line, you don't back up. 1:31:08.360 --> 1:31:10.120 We were told not to back up. You stay on 1:31:10.160 --> 1:31:11.800 the goal line. And if they throw the ball over 1:31:11.840 --> 1:31:13.680 your head, they got to throw it out of bounds. 1:31:14.200 --> 1:31:16.719 But these guys are turning around looking at the receiver, 1:31:17.880 --> 1:31:20.280 or not even looking at the receiver, looking at the quarterback, 1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:22.680 while guys are running trying to get open in a 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:25.719 small window. And Josh Allen found a couple of them today. 1:31:26.800 --> 1:31:27.920 Yeah, well, check. 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:28.960 I want to let you know. 1:31:29.160 --> 1:31:32.680 Tight ends in the NFL did not like catching the 1:31:32.720 --> 1:31:35.719 ball over the middle, which some guy number thirty three 1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:37.320 was crushing. 1:31:37.040 --> 1:31:40.000 Right now for a long time. 1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:44.920 And there were some wide receivers like Webster Slaughter that 1:31:45.000 --> 1:31:47.720 didn't like running into thirty men. 1:31:47.800 --> 1:31:49.680 Webs of Slaughter. We used to get at it. Man, 1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:53.840 he ran, he ran his mouth too much. Yes, hey, 1:31:53.880 --> 1:31:54.800 I appreciate the call. 1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:59.800 David and Ronnie Lot were premier or safety. 1:32:00.400 --> 1:32:04.400 Well, football has changed today. You know. The receivers can 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.519 go across the middle. They ain't got to worry about 1:32:06.520 --> 1:32:10.160 getting hit. They know they're gonna get the DB's will 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:13.080 get fined. So these guys aren't afraid to go across 1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:16.120 the middle because the NFL wants to make it safer 1:32:16.840 --> 1:32:19.240 for the offensive guy. It's not my fault, man that 1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:21.000 you got hit like that, because I'm gonna keep hitting 1:32:21.000 --> 1:32:24.640 you and if my paychecks keep disappearing, there's not too 1:32:24.760 --> 1:32:27.560 much I can do about it. Thank you, brother, We 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:30.760 appreciate your call. Thanks so much. 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:34.479 Jan and Mason, all right, appreciate you. Hey, let's look 1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:38.479 at the NFL scoreboard here. David and the Green Bay 1:32:38.560 --> 1:32:45.480 Packers defeated the Chicago Bears today twenty eight to twenty one. 1:32:46.479 --> 1:32:50.519 De Los Angeles rams all over the Arizona Cardinals forty 1:32:50.600 --> 1:32:56.599 five to seventeen. Seahawks go into Atlanta and crush the 1:32:56.640 --> 1:32:58.639 Falcons thirty seven to nine. 1:32:58.800 --> 1:32:59.639 That's a scary team. 1:33:00.080 --> 1:33:04.840 Am Darnold with three more touchdowns today the incredible and 1:33:04.880 --> 1:33:08.679 the Titans come back and beat the Cleveland Browns thirty 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:12.479 one to twenty nine in Cleveland. That hurts and the 1:33:12.560 --> 1:33:18.360 Vikings JJ McCarthy a resurrection here with three touchdown passes 1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:24.760 thirty one to nothing, shutout of the Washington Commanders in Minneapolis, 1:33:26.000 --> 1:33:29.120 and the Dolphins smoke the Jets thirty four to ten 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:37.600 in New Jersey, and Tua, not known for being a 1:33:37.640 --> 1:33:41.040 cold weather quarterback, you know, leads the Dolphins to a 1:33:41.120 --> 1:33:46.799 thirty four to ten victory over the Jets in New Jersey. 1:33:47.000 --> 1:33:51.200 The New Orleans Saints come back that hurts Wowa Tampa 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:54.639 Bay Buccaneers twenty four to twenty in Tampa. In Tampa, 1:33:54.720 --> 1:33:59.280 the Bucks are now seven and six, and the Jacksonville 1:33:59.360 --> 1:34:03.320 Jaguars they're hot, thirty six to nineteen winners at home 1:34:03.400 --> 1:34:06.599 over the Indianapolis Colts. Colts fall to eight and five, 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:08.920 the Jags now nine and four. 1:34:09.320 --> 1:34:13.400 At one time I think the Colts was seven and one. Yes, 1:34:14.200 --> 1:34:17.120 they're playing how now? And then Dan Jones going with 1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:18.160 the Achilles with. 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:23.679 An Achilles, Yes, and the Pittsburgh Steelers improved to seven 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:26.000 and six. They find a way, man, They find a 1:34:26.040 --> 1:34:29.360 way with a twenty seven to twenty two victory over 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:32.559 the Ravens in Baltimore to take over sole. 1:34:32.439 --> 1:34:35.600 Possession in the AFC North. 1:34:36.160 --> 1:34:41.599 And the Broncos defeat the Raiders in Las Vegas twenty 1:34:41.600 --> 1:34:47.040 four to seventeen. So those are the updated scores and 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:51.040 tonight's game, the Texans who are seven and five at 1:34:51.080 --> 1:34:53.440 the Chiefs who are six and six. 1:34:53.600 --> 1:34:56.680 Must win for the Chiefs. Come on, Texas, Yes, come 1:34:56.720 --> 1:35:00.760 on Texas. Man. If the Bengals can't get in and 1:35:00.800 --> 1:35:03.400 to the party, we can't allow Kansasity to get there either. 1:35:04.680 --> 1:35:08.320 And with that, let's take a break. We're live at 1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:12.840 Wings and Rings, the King's Mills location on King Center Drive, 1:35:12.960 --> 1:35:16.040 and you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame 1:35:16.120 --> 1:35:20.000 Sports Talk presented by Rnel Carriers. He's David Folter. This 1:35:20.040 --> 1:35:30.479 is Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW Welcome back to 1:35:30.520 --> 1:35:34.439 the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by 1:35:34.560 --> 1:35:39.840 Rnell Carriers on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:35:40.240 --> 1:35:43.080 He's David Folter. This is Chick Ludwig. We're live at 1:35:43.080 --> 1:35:47.720 Wings and Rings, King's Mills Location fifty five seventeen King 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:51.160 Center Drive in Mason. We're here till eight thirty tonight, 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:54.120 and David, you had quite the entourage here. 1:35:55.040 --> 1:35:57.920 Fulter's vultures tonight got the voters in the house and 1:35:58.040 --> 1:36:01.679 John and lee Anne Reith, long time family, walking out 1:36:01.720 --> 1:36:03.720 the door. There good to have y'all. Here, got my 1:36:03.760 --> 1:36:07.760 little man here working on the I l money already. Beautiful. 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:11.880 Look look little Braxing, my grandson and your your bride, 1:36:11.960 --> 1:36:15.080 Judy just had just had a birthday. She turned twenty 1:36:15.080 --> 1:36:20.840 five yesterday. Fantastic. And Kayla, Kayla's over there paying the bill. 1:36:21.200 --> 1:36:23.720 Oh you got really nice. You gotta love that. I 1:36:23.840 --> 1:36:24.120 like that. 1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:25.719 And Braxton is the grandson. 1:36:25.760 --> 1:36:28.439 Braxton is my man. Hey, Braxing, what up? Man is he? 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:29.920 How old is he? 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:30.040 He? 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:32.559 Eleven? Even months? I was gonna say a round one. 1:36:32.640 --> 1:36:37.280 He's close, he's looking, he's looking mighty five almost, Yes, beautiful, 1:36:37.960 --> 1:36:42.120 great stuff. And hey, we've got a caller on the line. Yes, 1:36:42.200 --> 1:36:46.280 Sean in Cedarville. John, what's happening? 1:36:48.160 --> 1:36:49.559 Hey, how you guys doing tonight? 1:36:49.640 --> 1:36:52.760 Dick great man great? How are you? 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:53.479 Hi? 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:53.880 David? 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:54.759 Hi, David? 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:59.200 How are you doing so? Yess? 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:01.639 And the Bengals lost today? 1:37:02.240 --> 1:37:04.080 Will somebody call me a doctor? 1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:07.000 Hey? 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:12.160 I put on my Facebook page after the selection show committed. 1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:16.040 You know, the Selection show came down, and I'm there. 1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:17.840 The world is not. 1:37:17.920 --> 1:37:21.160 Coming to an end, but it feels like it because 1:37:21.280 --> 1:37:25.639 it is the college football playoff. Ar mcgeddon, Yes, Okay, 1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:29.000 Indiana is number one in the nation. 1:37:30.000 --> 1:37:32.920 Who would have ever thought that five or ten years ago. 1:37:33.120 --> 1:37:38.519 Okay, and then in a twelve team playoff Tulane and 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:42.760 James Madison or in they're okay. Yes, so this is 1:37:42.840 --> 1:37:48.040 categ this is cataclysmic, but it's going to be incredible. 1:37:49.520 --> 1:37:52.160 In Indiana's case. I think it just goes to show 1:37:52.200 --> 1:37:57.240 how big the shadow of Bobby Knight was cast over 1:37:57.840 --> 1:38:01.559 that university does. All it mattered for the last fifty 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:07.639 years was i U basketball. But now it's a whole 1:38:07.680 --> 1:38:08.840 new world today. 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:09.920 Whole new you know it really is. 1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:14.360 Kurt Signetti deserves a lot of credit and that that 1:38:14.520 --> 1:38:18.120 is a fantastic football team. I graduated with Archie Griffin 1:38:18.120 --> 1:38:22.439 at Ohio State. Yes, I was not happy last night, 1:38:22.479 --> 1:38:25.559 but you know what, the first thing you learn, David 1:38:25.600 --> 1:38:27.640 Fulcher is a wee laddie. 1:38:27.920 --> 1:38:30.080 You can't win them all. No, you can't win them all. 1:38:30.240 --> 1:38:30.400 Man. 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:33.960 Indiana came to play last night. Yes, there were some 1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:36.200 things about Ohio State that upset me. They were in 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:39.920 the shadow of the goal line twice and came away 1:38:40.160 --> 1:38:44.799 with no points. The quarterback on a snake to get stopped, 1:38:45.240 --> 1:38:50.480 and then third and one at the nine in completion 1:38:51.000 --> 1:38:53.400 and then a whiff on a field goal that would 1:38:53.400 --> 1:38:54.040 have tied. 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:59.760 The Hey, Dave, I don't know how the Craig deadline work, 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:03.280 but if the coach would be interested in Joe Flacco, 1:39:04.040 --> 1:39:06.280 can there be a deal made there this late in 1:39:06.320 --> 1:39:06.799 the season. 1:39:09.320 --> 1:39:11.439 I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure that they can do 1:39:11.560 --> 1:39:14.679 trades and throughout the year. You don't have to wait 1:39:14.760 --> 1:39:17.559 until the trade deadline. But I see, I don't I 1:39:17.560 --> 1:39:19.400 don't know if I get rid of Joe Flacco. I 1:39:19.439 --> 1:39:22.400 know Flacco wants to play, but I don't know if 1:39:22.439 --> 1:39:24.840 I get rid of Joe Flacco, because you've got to start. 1:39:24.880 --> 1:39:30.040 You gotta starting quarterback as your backup quarterback. And Joe 1:39:30.120 --> 1:39:33.000 Flacco came in here and we've got to say. 1:39:32.800 --> 1:39:35.920 Four games left and we could pick him back up 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:39.880 after the end of the season maybe, But defensively today 1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:45.519 for the Bengals, they have showed improvement. But just the 1:39:45.640 --> 1:39:50.000 heads up and Kowell don't get the memo. There's four 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:53.840 games left and each of the four teams have tied 1:39:53.920 --> 1:39:57.479 in and you guys have to remind me who was 1:39:57.680 --> 1:40:02.120 to cut the touchdown pass versus the Chicago Bears. Was 1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:03.000 that a tie end. 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:07.639 Yes, it was Church Loveland from the University of Michigan. 1:40:09.240 --> 1:40:12.840 And when it was third and fifteen or whatever it was, 1:40:13.360 --> 1:40:17.240 the prior play they brought the house. I mean they 1:40:17.320 --> 1:40:20.360 pulled the sink and everything, and they got this fact. 1:40:20.479 --> 1:40:22.599 Why didn't they turn right around and do it again? 1:40:24.040 --> 1:40:27.960 They could have smutthered him in the backfield and got 1:40:28.120 --> 1:40:31.280 possession of the ball and maybe a chance to win 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:31.719 the game. 1:40:33.720 --> 1:40:35.880 You know, man, I don't know. All I know is 1:40:35.880 --> 1:40:38.559 is that some of the play calling. You know. I 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:43.120 can't question why they did what they did, where it happened, 1:40:43.840 --> 1:40:46.439 what we should have ran. But I do know, man, 1:40:46.479 --> 1:40:50.360 it is very frustrating. As a former player and a 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:55.040 fan of the Cincinnati Bengals. I love Cincinnati. I watched Cincinnati. 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:57.080 My kids are growing up in Cincinnati and that this 1:40:57.160 --> 1:41:00.240 is my home and to watch them play the way 1:41:00.280 --> 1:41:03.320 they play sometimes you just got to ask yourself, why, 1:41:03.560 --> 1:41:06.439 why did it happen? What do we call that? But 1:41:06.600 --> 1:41:07.639 that's just part of the game. 1:41:09.479 --> 1:41:11.599 I can show them sentiments with you, because I used 1:41:11.640 --> 1:41:14.080 to look forward to watching you play. I mean, you 1:41:14.240 --> 1:41:18.200 delivered the blow, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:21.920 you didn't really you didn't have to knock the head 1:41:21.920 --> 1:41:24.640 off the guy, but you did stop him any tracks. 1:41:25.160 --> 1:41:28.240 And you don't see these guys getting them positions that way. 1:41:28.280 --> 1:41:28.920 And I don't know. 1:41:28.840 --> 1:41:33.840 Whose responsibility that it is on defense to cover the 1:41:33.920 --> 1:41:38.000 tide ends. But they talk about complimentary football, Well, I'm 1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:46.000 thinking complimentary within the complimentary meaning the phase, the defensive phase. 1:41:46.080 --> 1:41:50.559 Each player has to compliment each other too in a way. 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:53.439 John, John, with that, we've got we've got to run. 1:41:53.600 --> 1:41:56.400 We've reached the top of the hour. Break John, and Cedarville, 1:41:56.400 --> 1:41:59.840 we appreciate your face. Thanks so much. Two and a 1:41:59.880 --> 1:42:02.920 half a half hours down, a half hour to go. 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This is Chick Ludwig and 1:43:34.720 --> 1:43:39.880 I'm alongside Bengals legend strong safety David Folcher, and we're 1:43:39.920 --> 1:43:44.200 breaking down the bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss 1:43:44.240 --> 1:43:45.760 to the Buffalo Bills. 1:43:45.520 --> 1:43:46.559 Like a wrecking ball. 1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:50.799 Mike Mills is are on site engineer and the baton 1:43:50.960 --> 1:43:55.760 has passed in the Kenwood studios from Joe Waddell to 1:43:56.080 --> 1:43:59.880 Danny Gleeson. Danny is now our producer to the bottom 1:44:00.080 --> 1:44:03.400 the hour. We thank Joe for all of his help. 1:44:04.280 --> 1:44:09.800 We love it here at Wings and Rings, wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, 1:44:10.080 --> 1:44:13.639 drink specials. Wings and Rings has it all, and we've 1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:18.560 only got a half hour to go. David, four games left, 1:44:18.840 --> 1:44:23.720 three games out the Pittsburgh Steelers. Man, they play the Dolphins. 1:44:23.800 --> 1:44:26.160 They still got to play the Browns. They still got 1:44:26.200 --> 1:44:30.080 to play. They got to go to the Detroit to 1:44:30.160 --> 1:44:34.240 play the Lions. They finish up with the Ravens again. 1:44:34.880 --> 1:44:40.479 So the Ravens now have the Bengals in Cincinnati next Sunday, 1:44:41.800 --> 1:44:45.000 then they host the Patriots. Then they go to the 1:44:45.040 --> 1:44:48.600 Packers and go to the Steelers. So the Ravens have 1:44:48.640 --> 1:44:50.920 a tough road. Ravens have a tough road. All we 1:44:51.000 --> 1:44:53.200 gotta do is win, win. 1:44:54.240 --> 1:44:56.120 You know, I know it sounds crazy, but we're only 1:44:56.120 --> 1:44:59.040 going to get one team out of this This versions 1:44:59.080 --> 1:45:01.479 division to go to play, and it's going to be 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:04.600 the division winner, and it's gonna come down to it 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:07.639 could be an eight to nine, an eight nineteen winning 1:45:07.640 --> 1:45:08.120 the division. 1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:10.880 Seattle one year, didn't they win the They got to 1:45:10.880 --> 1:45:11.599 the Super Bowls. 1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:15.719 What a losing record? Yes, yes, it can't happen. Man, 1:45:15.880 --> 1:45:18.400 It's uh, we just have to We have to take 1:45:18.439 --> 1:45:21.000 care of business. We worry about what other teams do 1:45:21.080 --> 1:45:24.200 and what other people say, but our our jobs are 1:45:24.280 --> 1:45:27.639 to take care of business. And we had a shot today. 1:45:27.760 --> 1:45:30.320 We had a shot to take care of business and 1:45:30.479 --> 1:45:32.840 got to You gotta have the mind of a fish, 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:36.000 you know. You get you get hooked, they throw you 1:45:36.080 --> 1:45:38.080 back in there, catch and release, and you come back 1:45:38.080 --> 1:45:40.439 and get it again. So this is what we gotta do. 1:45:40.920 --> 1:45:44.120 What happened today is over, and right now it's Ravens 1:45:44.200 --> 1:45:45.839 week and we got to get ready for the Ravens. 1:45:47.080 --> 1:45:52.599 There are times, David, when I'm trying to fall asleep 1:45:52.800 --> 1:45:57.759 at night and I'm thinking of plays that the Bengals make. Okay, 1:45:58.439 --> 1:46:02.760 so I think of Colston Loveland over the middle yep, 1:46:03.560 --> 1:46:08.760 long touchdown for the Chicago Bears after Joe Flacco leads 1:46:08.800 --> 1:46:11.960 an unbelievable comeback yep in the final minutes. 1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:14.080 Yep. So I think about that. 1:46:15.080 --> 1:46:19.800 Remember when Leon Hall after Cedrick Benson scores a touchdown, Yes, 1:46:20.840 --> 1:46:21.639 seconds to go? 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:22.720 Seconds? 1:46:24.520 --> 1:46:29.040 Leon Hall a pass defense but it pops up in 1:46:29.120 --> 1:46:31.839 the air. I forget the name of the wide receiver 1:46:31.920 --> 1:46:36.200 from Denver that gets it, runs to the goal line, 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:39.519 goes across to kill a few more seconds, steps into 1:46:39.560 --> 1:46:44.120 the end zone, and the Bengals have their heart ripped out. 1:46:44.439 --> 1:46:47.960 I mean, it's just, you know, I think we said 1:46:47.960 --> 1:46:50.439 this earlier, maybe it was on the air. Off the air, 1:46:50.560 --> 1:46:55.559 how this has been a funny football season. Yeah, players 1:46:55.560 --> 1:47:01.200 getting hurt, quarterback coaches changing, things are happening. And you know, 1:47:01.479 --> 1:47:05.120 the teams that the NFL or people were expecting to 1:47:05.120 --> 1:47:07.840 be on the top or on the bottom, and then 1:47:07.880 --> 1:47:09.559 the teams that are supposed to be on the bottom 1:47:09.760 --> 1:47:13.120 are now on the top. Players are getting hurt. It's 1:47:13.200 --> 1:47:17.840 just a funny football season. There have been years of 1:47:17.840 --> 1:47:22.360 football where players don't get hurt, teams are doing so well, 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:26.080 and then all of a sudden, the players that aren't 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:29.400 getting hurt, the ones you don't think about, they're getting hurt. 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:32.360 The teams aren't playing well. All of a sudden, you 1:47:32.479 --> 1:47:35.479 got the Denver Broncos. You know, ten games they don't 1:47:35.479 --> 1:47:39.000 won ten. The Jacksonville Jaguars are just one today they're 1:47:39.240 --> 1:47:41.880 almost a ten wins. And then you got the teams 1:47:41.880 --> 1:47:45.040 that have so much potential, like the Baltimore Ravens and 1:47:45.080 --> 1:47:49.759 the Cincinnati Bengals who are only six wins, six and seven, 1:47:49.880 --> 1:47:53.240 five and six wins, And you ask yourself, how how 1:47:53.240 --> 1:47:57.360 does the team that much talent only win so many games? 1:47:57.360 --> 1:48:00.240 Because I think the parody in the NFL now is 1:48:00.280 --> 1:48:04.599 starting to be more consistently even than it has been 1:48:04.640 --> 1:48:08.479 in the past four and nine. Day would never would 1:48:08.520 --> 1:48:10.480 have thought the synthe thing was before them. 1:48:10.640 --> 1:48:13.040 And as far as Joe Flacco is concerned, I hope 1:48:13.040 --> 1:48:13.920 they sign him. 1:48:14.120 --> 1:48:16.400 It's a backup me too. I would take Joe. I 1:48:16.400 --> 1:48:19.599 would take Joe Flacco any day to be my backup. 1:48:19.640 --> 1:48:22.280 But I know Joe Flacco wants to play. He wants 1:48:22.320 --> 1:48:25.120 to play now and stay all the time. But knowing 1:48:25.160 --> 1:48:28.240 that Joe Burrow goes through a lot of injuries, that 1:48:28.320 --> 1:48:32.920 Flacco could play again, hopefully Joe Burrow doesn't get hurt. 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:36.760 But I'm telling you, we got two Joels that can play. 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:39.599 And if we got those two Joe's on this roster 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:42.840 next year and they get a shot even this year, 1:48:43.160 --> 1:48:45.400 if things go the well it's supposed to be going, 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:49.720 this is a very very powerful football team. We're just 1:48:49.800 --> 1:48:51.960 not showing how powerful we really are. 1:48:53.560 --> 1:48:57.280 If they would by some miracle, reached the postseason, I 1:48:57.280 --> 1:48:59.040 wouldn't want to play the Cincinnati bangal. 1:48:59.160 --> 1:49:03.320 No, I'm telling you I Joe Burrow today. We were 1:49:03.360 --> 1:49:06.640 talking about this at home. Joe Burrow today just he 1:49:06.760 --> 1:49:09.920 brings something out of this team, like, oh, no doubt. 1:49:10.120 --> 1:49:12.479 He's one of those guys that you say, oh man, 1:49:12.680 --> 1:49:15.120 I'm gonna go to I'm going to battle with this dude. 1:49:15.479 --> 1:49:17.320 I'm finna go in the burning house. You know, I'm 1:49:17.320 --> 1:49:20.519 a firefighter who does a tremendous job to help people 1:49:20.560 --> 1:49:23.240 when those things happen. I know when I go in 1:49:23.280 --> 1:49:26.479 that house, I got that guy to protect me. He's 1:49:26.479 --> 1:49:28.840 gonna help me. And that's what Joe Burrow throws out. 1:49:28.960 --> 1:49:31.880 And I saw the interview with him talking about in 1:49:31.960 --> 1:49:35.680 the snow, Yes, the offense has they have the advantage. 1:49:35.920 --> 1:49:38.720 Yeah, And Tagans said that too, well, no, he did. 1:49:38.760 --> 1:49:41.360 Joe Burrow said that. He said that when you running 1:49:42.000 --> 1:49:44.639 you I know where I'm going offensively, but the defensive 1:49:44.640 --> 1:49:47.960 guy don't. So if I can get my foot in 1:49:48.040 --> 1:49:50.280 and keep it right and I can make a cut, 1:49:50.640 --> 1:49:54.680 that defensive back slips and fall, I'm wide open. And 1:49:54.760 --> 1:49:56.800 Higgins was hide open on one of them, and Joe 1:49:56.880 --> 1:50:00.000 overthrew him. Think about that. If Joe doesn't overthrow him, 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:01.559 and what does that do. That's at the end of 1:50:01.600 --> 1:50:04.160 the half. Yes, they go down and kick a field goal, 1:50:04.280 --> 1:50:07.639 score a touchdown. Buffalo is really in some serious trouble. Yes, 1:50:07.680 --> 1:50:09.000 and what do we do? We have to punt the 1:50:09.040 --> 1:50:10.400 ball away. 1:50:10.760 --> 1:50:13.200 Just a reminder the fans out there, the postgame sports 1:50:13.240 --> 1:50:16.800 talk is brought to you by M and P Logistics. 1:50:17.080 --> 1:50:19.320 From first down to final mile. 1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:23.800 M and P delivers. You can depend on it. Well. 1:50:23.800 --> 1:50:28.719 Now, David, let's check today's Postman Law injury report, brought 1:50:28.720 --> 1:50:32.920 to you by Postman Law. Injured call eight four four Postman. 1:50:33.360 --> 1:50:36.360 Others promise Postman delivers. 1:50:37.080 --> 1:50:40.799 Now, I've always wanted to say that Postman delivers. Postman delivers. 1:50:40.840 --> 1:50:43.680 I like that. I'm gonna call them up chick and 1:50:43.680 --> 1:50:46.360 tell them, hey, man full Rock wants to deliver with 1:50:46.479 --> 1:50:47.120 the Postman. 1:50:47.600 --> 1:50:48.639 That's exactly right. 1:50:48.680 --> 1:50:48.960 Now. 1:50:50.520 --> 1:50:52.560 Who did get injured today? 1:50:53.439 --> 1:50:56.040 Man? Do we have some injuries today? T Higgins was 1:50:56.080 --> 1:50:58.760 getting bounced around a little bit with concuctive Yes he was, 1:50:58.880 --> 1:51:01.160 but he went into the blue tent. Blue Tint said 1:51:01.160 --> 1:51:02.680 he was okay, and they let him come back out 1:51:02.720 --> 1:51:05.520 and play. But you could see that he had some 1:51:05.520 --> 1:51:07.519 some silliness in him throughout the day. 1:51:08.240 --> 1:51:12.160 Aunt Josephoe's side was out with a right shin injury, 1:51:12.880 --> 1:51:14.720 so don't know how severe it is. 1:51:14.760 --> 1:51:16.840 I don't think he came back, No, I don't. I 1:51:16.880 --> 1:51:18.599 don't remember see it. I don't remember seeing. 1:51:18.400 --> 1:51:23.720 Him because Cedric Johnson was playing in his spot Buffalo man. 1:51:24.600 --> 1:51:28.519 Cedric whiffed on. Can't be wishing Allen, can't be whiffing 1:51:28.600 --> 1:51:31.120 man forty yards. I think that big long run. I 1:51:31.160 --> 1:51:32.960 mean once again, though, when you get to the line 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:36.680 of scrimmage, you gotta slow your motor. And what I 1:51:36.720 --> 1:51:38.720 mean by slow your motor, man, you you've got to 1:51:38.760 --> 1:51:42.479 slow down, especially on the surface in the tractor where 1:51:42.479 --> 1:51:47.080 it was today wet, snow, slippery. You've got to slow down. 1:51:47.840 --> 1:51:50.160 Because that's what Josh Allen did. Soon as that soon 1:51:50.200 --> 1:51:53.160 as the two guys came and the tackle went inside 1:51:53.439 --> 1:51:56.000 and that other guy was scraping and his motor was 1:51:56.040 --> 1:51:58.400 wide open, Josh Allen said, I'm gone, You're not gonna 1:51:58.400 --> 1:52:01.280 get me, but you gotta slow you motor, slow down, 1:52:01.760 --> 1:52:04.320 make a sure tackle, give yourself in your defense another 1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:05.879 chance on the next down. 1:52:06.479 --> 1:52:09.599 And that's Today's Postman Law Injury Report brought to you 1:52:09.640 --> 1:52:13.000 by Postman Law Injured Call eight four to four Postman 1:52:13.320 --> 1:52:19.320 Others promise Postman deliver delivers. There we go and now, David, 1:52:19.479 --> 1:52:24.600 let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today. Brought to 1:52:24.640 --> 1:52:29.640 you by Coversinc dot com, local health insurance experts for 1:52:29.800 --> 1:52:35.560 over twenty years. When you look at the defensive statistics, 1:52:37.320 --> 1:52:40.479 the lotted the DB's baby are at the top of 1:52:40.520 --> 1:52:41.120 that list. 1:52:41.600 --> 1:52:45.679 And what does that tell you, Well, you know most 1:52:45.680 --> 1:52:47.720 of people don't understand. And you've got to have a 1:52:48.479 --> 1:52:52.360 good front seven, your d lineman and your linebackers to 1:52:52.360 --> 1:52:54.880 put pressure on the quarterback. When you don't put pressure 1:52:54.920 --> 1:52:57.760 on the quarterback, you leave your dv's out there on 1:52:57.800 --> 1:53:01.800 the island all by themselves. It's hard to cover a 1:53:01.920 --> 1:53:04.680 man when you don't know where he's going, especially in 1:53:04.720 --> 1:53:08.519 the snow. And once again, the DB's they're they're, they're 1:53:08.560 --> 1:53:11.360 they they're the ones that you see them on Sports 1:53:11.400 --> 1:53:14.200 Center highlight giving up a big touchdown or missing a tackle. 1:53:14.920 --> 1:53:17.240 But it all starts up front. When you put pressure 1:53:17.240 --> 1:53:19.680 on the quarterback, it makes it easy for the defensive 1:53:19.680 --> 1:53:22.360 backs to cover. If you don't do that, you're gonna 1:53:22.400 --> 1:53:25.160 have issues. And when you look at their DBS for 1:53:25.200 --> 1:53:29.920 the Bengals, they're always making tackles or they're always around 1:53:29.960 --> 1:53:33.439 the football, which tells me that the guys up front 1:53:33.479 --> 1:53:34.400 aren't doing their job. 1:53:35.479 --> 1:53:39.719 We have Geno Stone with nine combined tackles, seven solo, 1:53:39.840 --> 1:53:43.559 two assists. He had a sack, two tackles for loss, 1:53:44.360 --> 1:53:45.519 a quarterback hit. 1:53:45.920 --> 1:53:49.640 A good game. He was active. He was very active today. 1:53:49.880 --> 1:53:52.400 But see, it needs to be consistent. You know, he 1:53:52.479 --> 1:53:54.200 can't show up one week and not show up the 1:53:54.200 --> 1:53:56.559 next week. You gotta take pride in that. You know, 1:53:56.880 --> 1:53:58.400 when I play a chick. I mean, like I said, 1:53:58.400 --> 1:53:59.880 I'm not. I don't think I was the best safety 1:54:00.040 --> 1:54:01.759 ever played the game. I know I missed some tackles, 1:54:01.760 --> 1:54:03.559 but there wasn't a whole lot I missed. But I 1:54:03.600 --> 1:54:06.559 took pride in what I did. And when I walk 1:54:06.640 --> 1:54:08.760 off that field, I didn't even have to go and 1:54:08.800 --> 1:54:11.760 ask anybody. I left everything on that field. I gave 1:54:11.920 --> 1:54:15.080 every inswin that I could. And sometimes when you watch 1:54:15.520 --> 1:54:18.760 this defense and certain players, it looks like they're just 1:54:18.800 --> 1:54:21.160 going through the motion and you shouldn't be going through 1:54:21.200 --> 1:54:23.160 the motion. And I may be wrong. But I'm a 1:54:23.160 --> 1:54:26.240 spectator like everybody else that's watching, and if you're just 1:54:26.320 --> 1:54:28.240 going through the motion, you shouldn't be out there. 1:54:29.920 --> 1:54:36.520 As far as passes, defense, Jordan Battle, Dax Hill, DJ 1:54:36.680 --> 1:54:39.280 Turner and man that forced fumble. 1:54:39.160 --> 1:54:41.360 The DJ that was huge, That was huge. That was 1:54:41.400 --> 1:54:43.480 just absolutely shut. And those are the small things that 1:54:43.520 --> 1:54:45.280 people don't see. You know, it might give up a 1:54:45.320 --> 1:54:47.680 catch or it might be holding, but this is the 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:50.000 follow up. It's those things that they you know, they 1:54:50.000 --> 1:54:53.880 did that in Baltimore when the cut the touchdown or 1:54:53.920 --> 1:54:55.640 had the ball and worked get towards the end zone 1:54:55.640 --> 1:54:58.160 and he gets Joden Battle knocks it out and the 1:54:58.200 --> 1:54:59.800 ball comes out when we get the ball back when 1:54:59.800 --> 1:55:02.000 we go down and score. So those are the things 1:55:02.000 --> 1:55:04.520 that people don't see. But when they see the obvious 1:55:04.560 --> 1:55:07.560 stuff where you're holding or you're giving up a touchdown 1:55:07.640 --> 1:55:10.360 and you missed a tackle, we're gonna talk about those, 1:55:10.480 --> 1:55:12.200 but they're not going to talk about the plays that 1:55:12.280 --> 1:55:15.880 are made behind the scenes or whatever it goes on. 1:55:16.000 --> 1:55:18.440 So that's what happens a lot. Now we've talked a 1:55:18.440 --> 1:55:19.200 lot about. 1:55:18.960 --> 1:55:27.360 Baltimore's or excuse me, Buffalo's tight ends, increasing the Bengals 1:55:27.400 --> 1:55:30.879 for one hundred and thirty seven yards on eleven catches, 1:55:31.200 --> 1:55:37.560 thirteen targets. Okay, wow, today the Bengals pass receiving, Yes, 1:55:37.600 --> 1:55:39.960 they were doubling Jamar Chase. 1:55:39.720 --> 1:55:41.600 And you know that's going to happen weekend and week got. 1:55:41.640 --> 1:55:41.720 Oh. 1:55:41.800 --> 1:55:45.000 Absolutely, he caught five balls for forty four yards, a 1:55:45.000 --> 1:55:49.160 long gain of sixteen. That opened the door for t Higgins. 1:55:49.160 --> 1:55:54.760 Now eleven targets, six receptions, ninety two yards, two touchdowns 1:55:54.880 --> 1:55:56.840 with a long gain of twenty five and that was 1:55:56.920 --> 1:56:00.640 a beautiful touchdown catches at the end of the game. 1:56:01.000 --> 1:56:05.320 But Mike Kasicki six targets, six catches, that is a 1:56:05.600 --> 1:56:09.600 real positive. He's back from from injury and that's that 1:56:09.680 --> 1:56:10.680 biceps injury. 1:56:10.920 --> 1:56:16.200 And Kazki is a former Buffalo bill. Okay, Kazki's coming 1:56:16.200 --> 1:56:18.760 from Buffalo to US last year two years ago, when 1:56:18.760 --> 1:56:23.880 I thought, yes, he was eland Buffalo, but it was 1:56:23.880 --> 1:56:27.480 in that in that same in that same conference. And 1:56:27.520 --> 1:56:31.760 when you watch him, I mean not flashy. I heard 1:56:31.760 --> 1:56:33.960 the commentator say when he goes out and running routes, 1:56:33.960 --> 1:56:37.000 it's almost like a big white receiver. Yes, not just 1:56:37.040 --> 1:56:40.840 the tight end. So my question is there are certain 1:56:40.880 --> 1:56:45.480 packages that teams play. It's the twelve package, the nine package, whatever. 1:56:45.920 --> 1:56:48.480 Two tight ends, three tight ends. You know, when you 1:56:48.520 --> 1:56:51.000 see the Bengals put three tight ends on the field, 1:56:51.040 --> 1:56:53.240 everybody thinks they're going to run the football. They're gonna 1:56:53.280 --> 1:56:56.120 run the football, but they throw the football with those 1:56:56.120 --> 1:57:00.000 three tight ends. And you know what, I myself personally, 1:57:00.000 --> 1:57:01.560 I understand you want to throw the ball down on 1:57:01.640 --> 1:57:04.840 the field with Chase Chases. How does Chase get to 1:57:04.880 --> 1:57:07.360 open so much when he got double triple coverage? It's 1:57:07.400 --> 1:57:10.760 beyond me. But that tells me that there's other receivers 1:57:10.800 --> 1:57:15.440 on that team that should be Yoshi. Where was Yoshi today? 1:57:15.560 --> 1:57:16.720 I don't even know if Yosh. 1:57:16.560 --> 1:57:19.400 Had he caught He caught two balls for seventeen yards, 1:57:19.400 --> 1:57:20.520 a long gain of eleven. 1:57:20.720 --> 1:57:21.680 But just think about it. 1:57:21.760 --> 1:57:24.840 Yeah, you know what if if I made Bengals tight 1:57:24.960 --> 1:57:27.520 end like a Noah Fant who caught one ball for 1:57:27.600 --> 1:57:30.760 fifteen yards, a Tanner Hudson who caught one for eleven. 1:57:31.000 --> 1:57:31.720 I'm there one. 1:57:31.840 --> 1:57:34.440 When I become a free agent, I want to go 1:57:34.480 --> 1:57:37.560 to I want to go to Baltimore or Buffalo. 1:57:37.680 --> 1:57:40.040 I want to go somewhere where the tight end becomes 1:57:40.080 --> 1:57:44.160 an integral part of what the offense is doing. Yes, 1:57:44.320 --> 1:57:46.160 we do that every now and then. I don't know 1:57:46.200 --> 1:57:50.280 why we go away from, you know, smash Mount football, 1:57:50.800 --> 1:57:53.840 because we got a quarterback that that should throw four 1:57:53.920 --> 1:57:55.480 hundred and five hundred yard of the game. We got 1:57:55.480 --> 1:57:57.760 a receiver that's to catch three or four touchdown the 1:57:57.760 --> 1:58:02.480 game smash Mount football, old school football. Old school football 1:58:02.520 --> 1:58:05.040 should have happened in the last six minutes of that game, 1:58:05.320 --> 1:58:07.440 where we're gonna run down your throats and you're gonna 1:58:07.440 --> 1:58:10.320 have to stop us running the football because we are winning. 1:58:10.960 --> 1:58:13.680 I'm not gonna get trickery. I'm gonna throw what I 1:58:13.760 --> 1:58:16.320 have to. When I don't have to throw the ball, 1:58:16.360 --> 1:58:18.640 I'm gonna run the ball. And I think sometimes we 1:58:18.720 --> 1:58:23.640 get away from that because Zach Taylor's offense is about 1:58:23.640 --> 1:58:26.040 putting points on the board and a quarterback throwing three 1:58:26.120 --> 1:58:28.280 or four hundred yards and the receiver catching four or 1:58:28.320 --> 1:58:29.760 five touchdowns. 1:58:29.200 --> 1:58:31.720 And another guy I'd like to see get more involved. 1:58:31.920 --> 1:58:35.839 He's back there blocking Drew Sample. He catch the football. 1:58:35.920 --> 1:58:38.560 He can catch the football. Man Drew Sample can catch 1:58:38.560 --> 1:58:44.240 the football. Shamase p Ryan can run the football. Third 1:58:44.280 --> 1:58:49.000 and one, all, third and two, fourth, and one p 1:58:49.240 --> 1:58:51.360 Ryan is my guy. Yes he is. I'm telling you, 1:58:51.440 --> 1:58:55.560 p Ryan delivers the blow. He don't accept the blows. 1:58:57.080 --> 1:59:00.560 And with that, David, it's always an honor, privilege and 1:59:00.560 --> 1:59:03.400 pleasure being with you. Yes, sir, and many thanks to 1:59:04.640 --> 1:59:07.880 Mike Mills are on site engineer and rankingmucers back in 1:59:07.960 --> 1:59:12.760 the studio Shoeless Joe Waddell and James Wilson, and you 1:59:12.880 --> 1:59:19.040 have been listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame 1:59:19.120 --> 1:59:24.280 Sports Talk presented by Arnel Carriers live from Wings and 1:59:24.400 --> 1:59:27.800 Rings and King's Mills on the Home of the Bengals 1:59:28.200 --> 1:59:31.000 ESPN fifteen point thirty and the home of the best 1:59:31.000 --> 1:59:34.280 Bengals coverage, seven hundred WLW