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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm

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Speaker 2: alongside Bengals legend David Folger, and we're breaking down the

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Speaker 2: Bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss to the Buffalo

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Speaker 3: David. It's great to see you.

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Speaker 2: This was a game that looked very, very promising for

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Speaker 2: the Bengals. Yeah, they led by ten points with eight

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Speaker 2: forty four to go. Everything was going great until it

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Speaker 2: wasn't until twenty one consecutive points for the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: on their way to a thirty nine to thirty four victory.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's scary, man, because we sit here and

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Speaker 3: we talk about what they're supposed to do, what they're

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Speaker 3: not supposed to do, and with seven eight minutes left

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Speaker 3: in the game, you got the football. You're up five

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Speaker 3: four or five points, four points three points. Run the ball,

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Speaker 3: run the ball, make Buffalo stop you but run the ball,

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Speaker 3: and here we go. We get creative again and try

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Speaker 3: to set up a quick pass to Chase because I

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Speaker 3: think Burrow saw the blitz the corner coming, so Borrow

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Speaker 3: saw that. He tried to get it out quick, didn't

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Speaker 3: get enough air underneath them, and then the wheels fell off.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's touchdown pass to Mike Gseki from twelve yards

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Speaker 2: out gave the Bengals a twenty eight to eighteen lead

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Speaker 2: with eight forty four to go. Yes, what five plus

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Speaker 2: minutes later, we're down there, They're down by ten anyway,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, And that's when you want the Bengals to

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Speaker 2: get a stop right there, with a ten point lead,

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Speaker 2: have a get the ball back, run the footballs titan,

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Speaker 2: you know, kill the clock, win in style.

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Speaker 3: But no, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Allen gets loose for a forty yard touchdown run a

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Speaker 2: minute eleven seconds later, pulling Buffalo within.

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Speaker 3: Three, twenty eight to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the really the play of the game

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Speaker 3: Swung the swung the momentum.

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Speaker 2: Christian Benfords comes up the cornerback and Joe saw him.

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Speaker 2: He tried to loft a pass over him on the

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Speaker 2: three yards for a pick six at five point twenty five,

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Speaker 2: giving Buffalo the lead for good. And then on Burrow's

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Speaker 3: You know the here's the thing, And I heard Box

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Speaker 3: didn't quit. You saw him fight. They kept doing what

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Speaker 3: I think we tried to out fox the fox. We

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Speaker 3: the ball in Chase Brown's hand and try to run

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Speaker 3: And like I said, I'm not gonna sit here and

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Speaker 3: able to run the clock out. I sitting there talking

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Speaker 3: to my daughter watching the game, and the first thing

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Speaker 3: I said was time management, clock management, run the ball,

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Speaker 3: they didn't they didn't really want to, and we give

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Speaker 3: now we're forced to go fast because you know, we

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was mostly spectacular in this game in the snow,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you he was cool. He was cool today.

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Speaker 3: Them two interceptions really hurt. And I saw someone on

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Speaker 3: Facebook or social media and said that Joe Burrow lost

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Speaker 3: a game for us. Come on, y'all, come on now,

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Speaker 3: come on, let's let's be real here. This is Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: people talking about Joe Burrow blowing the game. The guy's

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Speaker 3: trying to win. The guy did not have to come

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Speaker 3: back from that foot injury. He's out there taking care

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Speaker 3: of his business. He said he wanted to play with

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Speaker 3: a team. He belongs out there. He said, they pay

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Speaker 3: And it just didn't go his way and you got

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Speaker 3: to find a way to win, and we just couldn't

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Speaker 2: Four touchdowns in those conditions, I know, incredible, I know

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Speaker 2: he was mostly spectacular.

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Speaker 2: But then, like you said, the wheels do fall off.

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Speaker 2: And the Bengals led in this game seven to open,

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Speaker 2: fourteen to three, twenty one to eleven, twenty eight to eighteen,

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Speaker 2: back with a ten point.

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Speaker 3: Lead, and they can't do it one stop. You know,

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Speaker 3: I watched defense, I watched the linebackers. I know they're young,

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Speaker 3: but they're they're always out of place, out of position.

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Speaker 3: This is what what did you say when you came

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Speaker 2: You can't play football unless you see the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got their backs to the quarterback. You've

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Speaker 3: being thrown. Why you think Josh Allen does what he

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Speaker 3: just turn their heads and see the quarterback. And here's

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Speaker 3: what happens to that chick. When you get down in

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Speaker 3: whatever it may be. You become like a man, the

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Speaker 3: man on the receiver that you're guarding. It's like playing basketball.

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Speaker 3: You follow him wherever he goes and see where the

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Speaker 3: ball is coming. And what do we do. We have

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Speaker 3: our backs to the quarterback. We have no idea the

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Speaker 3: ball's being thrown and that touchdown. Josh Allen had eight

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Speaker 3: nine seconds to throw the ball. And when he threw

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Speaker 3: the ball, it was right past the defender's ear. If

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Speaker 3: out and grab that with his own mouth, not just

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Speaker 2: An astounding stat. The Bengals are two and five this season,

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Speaker 2: scoring thirty three or more points.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the league fifty two and one.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's unbelievable. That is not supposed to happen, not

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Speaker 3: with this kind of football team that we got here

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Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. I think we're off to a flying start here.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to become that word bengalized.

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Speaker 3: Win. Ain't heard that in a long time.

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Speaker 2: When all the life gets sucked out of you, I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's look at it here. The Bengals have fallen to

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Speaker 2: four and nine on the season. Pittsburgh beats Baltimore at

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Speaker 2: Baltimore to go to seven and six. So the Bengals

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Speaker 2: are three games back with four games to go, and

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Speaker 2: I KNOWE Joe and the rest of the Bengals were

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Speaker 2: secretly hoping that Baltimore wouldn't win because Baltimore comes in

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Speaker 2: here next week.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but now the mountain becomes even steeper.

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Speaker 2: Three games out, four games to go, we split with

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh so it's gonna be a tough sled.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough one, man. But I saw

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Speaker 3: something where there's there's still a shot. I mean, a

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Speaker 3: team can win this division at nine and eight, nine

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Speaker 3: and eight or eight, whatevere, eight and nine. It can happen.

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Speaker 3: It could happen because Pittsburgh still hasn't played Detroit, Baltimore

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Speaker 3: hasn't play these teams, so everybody still has an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to make something happen. But today was the flator man.

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Speaker 3: I knew when they were up fourteen to three, I said,

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Speaker 3: and they kept answering the bell. But then when it

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Speaker 3: that killer when it's time to go get it done.

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Speaker 3: You saw Buffalo today. When Buffalo was down, they were

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Speaker 3: hunt they were hunting the Bengals up. They were hunting them,

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Speaker 3: they were going after them. We just don't have that

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Speaker 3: that finish, if that's the word to use that word.

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Speaker 3: We don't have that finish. We just like let people

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Speaker 3: hang around if we can get that finish, and that

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Speaker 3: finish could come right before half. We had the ball

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Speaker 3: right before half. We scored touchdown right there, put points

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Speaker 3: and we couldn't do anything with that.

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Speaker 2: the fine folks right here at Wings and Rings. Well,

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Speaker 2: let's go out to the phones. Bengals lose thirty nine

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Speaker 2: to thirty four. Just another game where they score thirty

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Speaker 2: plus points and lose.

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Speaker 3: I'm fired up, Rock, I am too. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: come out of retirement, but I know I can't. I

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Speaker 3: wish I could, though. Hey is a pat in Redding there?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I am Hey, I Pati.

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Speaker 6: Tell your wife, I said, Hi, I met her last

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Speaker 6: year after one of the games.

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Speaker 7: Is you so so very nice?

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Speaker 3: Will?

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Speaker 6: I have all kinds of things I want to talk about.

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Speaker 6: First of all, we were wondering about pe Higgins. We

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Speaker 6: were absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Stop that he came back in the game after two

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Speaker 8: of those bad things that looked like concussion or that

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Speaker 8: they could have been a concussion, And we were noticing that.

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Speaker 8: You know, when he came back in, he was bobbling

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Speaker 5: Did you notice that.

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Speaker 6: Yep, that last catch was absolutely incredible. And here's another question.

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Speaker 6: H Now, another thing about our defense. I think, of

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Speaker 5: But again I'm watching.

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Speaker 6: In the third quarter, the defense got a sack of

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Speaker 4: For about three yards.

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Speaker 6: They started celebrating like they had just won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 6: was that third bout? No, it was first down, and

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Speaker 6: But isn't that a lack of maturity?

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Speaker 3: That's one thing, Pat, I mean, that's one thing that

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Speaker 3: or two because you made him play. A guy named

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Speaker 3: Paul Brown, many many years ago told me, act like

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Speaker 3: act like you've been there, and right, you know, if

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But when

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Speaker 3: old guys. I'm an old guy, Chick. I don't know

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Speaker 3: do that stuff. Yeah, so so it's it's a little tough,

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Speaker 3: you know, and you know, you don't want to see

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Speaker 3: your team lose. It's very frustrating because this team has

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Speaker 3: so much potential, but it happens every year. This football

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Speaker 3: season has been a crazy football season for everybody. Yes,

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Speaker 3: It's just a funny football season. So hopefully we still

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Speaker 2: And Pat, thank you very much. Thanks, Pat, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: It's Matt and is Matt and Springfield available?

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Speaker 4: And how's it going?

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Speaker 9: Chick has always you doing?

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Speaker 3: Then great, great, Thanks so much, Matt. How are you

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Speaker 3: no problem?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing all right, brother. It's just man, this season

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Speaker 9: has definitely been one for the age. It's just been

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Speaker 9: into position every single time to you know, take a

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Speaker 9: commanding lead and games. It's happened multiple times this year,

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Speaker 9: and then they make just some kind of like you

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Speaker 9: pointed out earlier, Chick, it's like bungalized, we make some

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Speaker 9: kind of bungled bungled move to you know, snatch defeat

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Speaker 9: from the jaws of victory. That's the best way that

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Speaker 9: I can put it. Because the Bengals had that game

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Speaker 9: well in hand again to day. They did it all

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Speaker 9: they had to know. Now milk the cloth, and they

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Speaker 9: just try to get too cute. I feel like with Burrow,

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Speaker 9: with them, with the screen and everything you needed it

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Speaker 9: to just do what was working. They couldn't stop you

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Speaker 9: up the middle. I mean the receiver receivers was getting

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Speaker 9: opened up the middle all day, you know, pretty much

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Speaker 9: slants and everything else. They could not stop that.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, why.

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Speaker 9: Stops working to try to get cute late in the

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Speaker 9: hanging in the balance, and once again, you know, they

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Speaker 9: find a way to lose. And honestly, if the Bengals

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Speaker 9: do lose next week, I know Burrow is a competitor,

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Speaker 9: but I think maybe they should just still Joe, Hey,

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Speaker 9: just go ahead and you know, pack it.

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Speaker 3: Up for the year.

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Speaker 9: But you know, just go ahead and pretty much loves

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Speaker 9: out up that point to get a high draft pick,

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Speaker 9: because this team badly needs a playmaker on the defensive

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Speaker 9: side of the ball that can close the game out

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Speaker 9: like a cale down to somebody like that, because right

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Speaker 9: now what they have just think working they should have

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Speaker 9: traded Trey Hendrickson while you still have value because he's

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Speaker 9: missed half the year anyway, But I don't know. It's

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Speaker 9: just frustrated, but you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 9: It's football at the end of the day, and this

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Speaker 9: team has a lot of holes, especially on the defensive

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Speaker 2: But it's good talk, all right, Matt, appreciate it. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: do we have days in Florida?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, yes, sir? Good?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So, first of all, all these people on social media

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Speaker 12: blaming Joe for the law get a life. I mean,

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Speaker 12: number nine is the reason that.

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Speaker 13: They put up thirty four points in the first place

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Speaker 13: and had a chance to win the game.

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Speaker 12: So, you know, my my question is is does this

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Speaker 4: I mean, the.

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Speaker 12: One guy is the eighty fourth out of the eighty

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Speaker 12: fourth linebacker in the league. The other guy is eighty third.

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Speaker 12: You're not winning with these two guys playing linebackers. It's

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Speaker 12: like playing nine again, eleven against nine every week. They're

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Speaker 12: they're I mean, neither one of these guys would even

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Speaker 12: be on a roster if it wasn't for us drafting

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Speaker 12: them or on precice on the practice.

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Speaker 2: This team needs help at all phases of the defense,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, front, middle, and back.

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Speaker 12: I agree, yes, well, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that chick.

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Speaker 14: But the rookie the rookies game, Yeah, they're terrible.

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Speaker 4: They're horrible.

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Speaker 12: Barry Carter may be the worst linebacker I've ever seen

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Speaker 12: play football.

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Speaker 3: Hey, there's a lot of people in this restaurant right

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Speaker 3: now clapping about that, and I see my daughter over

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Speaker 3: there clapping. You know, it does make sense. I understand.

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Speaker 3: I understand the mindset of having a young athlete coming

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Speaker 3: into the NFL. Because he's young, he's faster, but old

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Speaker 3: age and veterans can guide those young dudes can help

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Speaker 3: those young guys. Well, you know, the defensive coordinator wants youth.

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Speaker 3: But when these guys are out of places. The problem

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Speaker 3: is this, We've been saying this all year about missing tackles.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them are out of place. They're out

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Speaker 3: of place, and then when they try to get back

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Speaker 3: in place, it's too late. How does a tight end

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Speaker 3: on the football team their tight end? I think they

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Speaker 3: had something like ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: Eleven catches for one and thirty seven yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Now, those eleven catches, those two touchdowns in all those

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Speaker 3: yards were not man to man. They're in zone, yes,

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Speaker 3: so we're we're in zone. Where in the where are

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Speaker 3: the linebackers? They're gone. So I would say that I

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Speaker 3: believe that they're going to have to go into this

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Speaker 3: go out there and get some veteran knowledge through our

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Speaker 3: free agency, and they've got to get it now. You

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Speaker 3: don't want to get it three years from now and

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Speaker 3: then and then now you've got these rookies who will

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Speaker 3: be four year starters. It's too late. These guys are fast,

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Speaker 3: they're very aware, but they're out of place. This is

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Speaker 3: not college football, this is the NFL.

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Speaker 2: What drove me crazy is a stunt from your left hand,

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Speaker 2: Miles Murphy. Miles Murphy stunts inside, leaping the whole right

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Speaker 3: So that's either Miles Murphy's fault or it's the other

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Speaker 3: come out exactly right. So you're basically replacing each other.

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Speaker 3: They call it a stunt. Yes, I'm gonna stunt inside.

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Speaker 3: This guy stunts outside. Well, Murphy and the other guy,

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Speaker 3: both of them are inside. And what did Jock Allen do?

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Speaker 3: He runs out there and he gets up, picks up

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of yards.

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Speaker 2: Well, and like Joe said in his news conference, the

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Speaker 2: final run by Josh Allen seventeen yards for the first

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Speaker 3: And that's incredible. And that's what's been happening this whole

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Speaker 3: down and seventeen. You're expecting that team to punt the football,

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Speaker 3: but we're not doing that. We're not getting off the

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen ran for seventy eight yards and that's more

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Speaker 2: yards than the Bengals had.

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Speaker 3: As a team. Sixty two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we've reached the top of the hour.

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Speaker 3: Break.

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Speaker 3: Great to be here.

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Speaker 2: And before we go back out to the phones, David,

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Speaker 2: let's review the delivery of the game to you by

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Speaker 2: your global transportation provider. And yes, even though the Bengals

447
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Speaker 2: were down in this game by eleven, Tie Higgins catches

448
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Speaker 2: a twenty five yard pass from Joe Burrow with Jadavious

449
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Speaker 2: White the cornerback, Tradavius White pulling on his left arm,

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Speaker 2: pulling on that. That was just a phenomenal catch by T.

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Speaker 3: Great catch, and I you know, when we saw that,

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Speaker 3: expecting to see the flag. If T Higgins doesn't make

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Speaker 3: that catch, I'm assuming that the flag would have came

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Speaker 3: out because he could not get that left arm up

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Speaker 3: there to catch the ball. But what a great catch,

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Speaker 3: and what a great effort from a guy who's coming

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Speaker 3: off of concussion a week ago, two weeks ago, didn't

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Speaker 3: play last week, plays this week. And he said it

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Speaker 3: on after the game. You know, I'm a gamer. You

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Speaker 3: know my job is to go out there and make

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Speaker 3: plays and be part of this team. I want to

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Speaker 3: see them succeed. So I'm gonna be out there. And

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Speaker 3: I know the lady called earlier, Pat said that, you

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Speaker 3: know when T was dropping balls, he does double catch

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Speaker 3: a lot of balls. And I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: because of the concussion and things aren't clear, but the

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Speaker 3: guy gained he game today and they winning that blue tent.

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Speaker 3: They came back out. He did everything he's going to do.

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Speaker 3: He passed it and he wants to play the same

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Speaker 3: way with Joe. I thought, I thought I heard somebody

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Speaker 3: say that that Joe should sitting down because the season's over. No,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's part of this franchise. He might be

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Speaker 3: the franchise the franchise, but he's part of this franchise,

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Speaker 3: and we're supposed to go out there and play. No

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Speaker 3: matter if we're ten and two or two and ten,

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Speaker 3: we still have to go out there and give an effort.

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Speaker 2: And that was the delivery of the game, the twenty

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Speaker 2: five yard touchdown passed from Joe Burrow to t Higgins.

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Speaker 2: who says that Joe Burrow was the reason the Bengals

482
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Speaker 2: lost today is absolutely insane. He is a.

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Speaker 3: Warrior, crazy, absolute warrior.

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Speaker 2: If you listen to his postgame news conference, he talked

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Speaker 2: about he rehabbed his tail off. Oh yeah, to get

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Speaker 2: back here early, to get back. He loves the game,

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Speaker 2: he loves the teammates, he wants to win for the city.

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Speaker 2: He says all the right things. The dude is an

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Speaker 2: absolute beast. He's a warrior, and thirty one other clubs would.

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Speaker 3: Love to have him, oh without a doubt. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I remember at one time, what team was that thinking

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Speaker 3: about giving up all their draft picks for Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 3: The Jets. The Jets were talking about, you know, trading.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the Jets or it

495
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Speaker 3: was just a beat writer trying to get some attention.

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Speaker 3: But the Jets will say, and they'll take Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: and give up all their draft choices. Now that just

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Speaker 3: tells me that the guy's a winner. He's a gamer,

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Speaker 3: you know. And the guy really got back in shape,

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Speaker 3: got that foot right, because I didn't think that he

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Speaker 3: would come back and touch the field at all this

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Speaker 3: year and maybe not even for the finish his career plan.

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Speaker 3: Because turf toes are not a joke.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 3: I've had turf toe. I've stucked my toe before and

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Speaker 3: I've never had surgery on it, but I still have

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Speaker 3: lingering effects from that, that jam and that toe. Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow gets his completely stitched and redone. So a little

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Speaker 3: bit different when you spring an ankle compared to breaking

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Speaker 3: an ankle, because when you break something, they have to

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Speaker 3: go in there and completely fix it. When it's a

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Speaker 3: screen or it's a snap, they'll go in there and

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Speaker 3: and mess around with and tweak it so you can play.

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Speaker 3: But this guy is a gamer. And for whoever thinks

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Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow lost this game for the Bengals need

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Speaker 3: to be hall time. Doja out.

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Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phone. So our good friend

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Speaker 2: Mark and Florence.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, what's up, buddy?

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Speaker 4: How's it going? I got a Dave. Put your question first.

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Speaker 4: I want to know will he be at Radstats this year?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna be there. Man. I just got the

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Speaker 3: email from uh the gentleman who puts it on, and yes,

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Speaker 3: I will definitely be there. Reds fast correct.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna come and see you. But back

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Speaker 4: to the game. I don't know what the down and

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Speaker 4: distance was when Pearled threw that first interception, but it

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Speaker 4: looked like.

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Speaker 15: To me.

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Speaker 4: That ball was slipping out of his hands.

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Speaker 5: He didn't have a shot on it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look like a shot, and he tried to push

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Speaker 4: the ball up in the air over that defender. I

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Speaker 4: personally think that he shouldn't have even tried to make

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Speaker 4: that throw. The defender was right there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, he was blitzing. The corner was blitzing.

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Speaker 3: Joe saw the blitz. It was a hot blitz, so

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Speaker 3: that means the ball's coming out quick. And I think, Joe,

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Speaker 3: if you ever played golf and you swung the club

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Speaker 3: and you don't really swing it, you try to guide

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Speaker 3: the ball, try to guide the swing. Well, guess what

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Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow tried to guide that pass instead

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Speaker 3: of throwing it. And that's why the guy inters up

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Speaker 3: at that ball. He saw the bits coming and you

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Speaker 3: know what, if that ball goes over that guy's head,

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Speaker 3: Chase tesches the football and maybe get five to ten

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Speaker 3: yards because there was nobody else in near Chase on

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Speaker 3: that throat.

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Speaker 2: It was first in ten at Buffalo's thirty three yard

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Speaker 2: line with five point thirty five to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay. And another thing that stood out to

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Speaker 4: me this defense. You know they can't never stop nobody.

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Speaker 4: This week they was playing a better quarterback. You knew

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Speaker 4: his goal to was gonna be his tight end. You

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Speaker 4: remember early in the game when they converted two fourth downs.

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Speaker 4: If the Bengals get a stop on one of those

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Speaker 4: fourth downs they got one later in that half, they

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Speaker 4: could have put that game away early if that defense

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Speaker 4: had a showed up. So I just I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: at their defense, like God, just give one stop. And

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: The defense if you look, if you look at if

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Speaker 3: you look at the last couple of weeks, our defense

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Speaker 3: has has played better. You know, we lose the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: but we only give up so many points, and then

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Speaker 3: we come back and we beat another team. We give

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Speaker 3: us so many points win the game. And everything was

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Speaker 3: starting to come around in the last three weeks. Twenty

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Speaker 3: points was the most I think twenty sixteen and fourteen,

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Speaker 3: and then we come out there today and I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: it's the thing that shocks me the most is the

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Speaker 3: long conversions, the third down and sixteens, the second down

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Speaker 3: and seventeen, and we give up eighteen, we give up seventeen,

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Speaker 3: we give up the first down on third down and forever.

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Speaker 3: That shouldn't happen. Though it should not happen, there's got

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Speaker 3: to be It's gotta be somewhere in there that you

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Speaker 3: say enough is enough on third down and long fourth

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Speaker 3: and one, fourth and two, those are tough go ahead linebacker.

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Speaker 4: Line questioned, before I'll get off the two linebackers that

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Speaker 4: the Bengals have now, Dave, when you played, they played

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Speaker 4: three linebackers, they had a middle linebacker and two outside linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Those we we played a four to three defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those two linebackers. And you can tell me if

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong. They look like they fit more if you

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Speaker 4: played three linebackers, you had a middle linebacker and they

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Speaker 4: played on the outside. They look like more of those

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Speaker 4: type of linebackers. And my wrong. And how I'm looking

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Speaker 4: at that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't. I don't know if I would say

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Speaker 3: that you're wrong. I just know that, Yeah, they're young,

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Speaker 3: and we can blame it on young, but they're they're

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Speaker 3: national football players. Now. They didn't played enough games to

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Speaker 3: say they're not rookies anymore. You know, after you played

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Speaker 3: three or four games, that rookie status has gone. Now, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so you got these two young studs that can flat

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Speaker 3: out fly, but they're they seem to be out of

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Speaker 3: place a lot, meaning balls are being caught in front

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Speaker 3: of him, and then when they don't drop back, balls

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Speaker 3: have been called caught behind them. And today was just

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Speaker 3: an absolute bismal performance. When the tight end gets the

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Speaker 3: eleven catches one hundred and eighty something yards. This did

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Speaker 3: not happen to tight ends. But this only happened because

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Speaker 3: we're giving up fifteen twenty yards every catch on the

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Speaker 3: tight end. Kind of tough, but you made great points there. Man.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your call. O.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Mark, as always, Yes, appreciate a man.

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Speaker 2: And we've got to take a break. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Tri State Chevy Dealer's Postgame Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 2: bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss to the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: best and service the rest. David, four games left. You're

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Speaker 2: three games out. But like you said, you remember this team.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow wants to play. You can't afford to. You're

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Speaker 2: playing for your job. That's it, man, So you got

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Speaker 2: to give it all you got.

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Speaker 3: And chicks and Joe said that last week people, why

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Speaker 3: are you playing Joe when the football season's over? He said,

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Speaker 3: this is my job. They paid me a lot of

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Speaker 3: money to go out there and play for a kid's game,

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Speaker 3: you know, fifty fifty five million dollars worth. A guy

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Speaker 3: wants to play it, but I do understand that if

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Speaker 3: he comes up lame, that he's never going to be

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Speaker 3: able to play or get hurt again. I can understand that,

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Speaker 3: but this is this is this is not and I

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Speaker 3: won't say, you know, another sport is less than football,

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Speaker 3: but we're playing football. It's physical. You're supposed to go

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Speaker 3: out there and hit the other guy. And if you

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Speaker 3: get hurt, it's not like I'm doing it on purpose.

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Speaker 3: It just happens. So for Joe Burrow to say I

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Speaker 3: want to play, let him play. Absolutely, let's go after

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Speaker 3: the phones. Mike in Los Angeles, Hello, Mike, are you there?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Chipster?

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Speaker 7: David kol Rock.

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Speaker 5: How are you guys?

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Speaker 3: We're good good.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call, Jonman, I really appreciate. Hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm calling you from Compton.

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Speaker 16: My brother picked me up, the veteran brother, Diodnam veteran brothers.

654
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Speaker 5: Picked me up after my surgery and brought me back. Today.

655
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Speaker 5: We watched the Bengals game and then watched the watching

656
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: the Rams game. It was awesome. So at greetings from Compton.

657
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: My friend.

658
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: Hey bank, a veteran bank, a veteran Pearl Harbor day.

659
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Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, in my backyard made Compton, Inglewood,

660
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, South Central. That's my backyard.

661
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 16: I know it is bro I yesterday I was down

662
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 16: and watched for a wait for one of the ladies

663
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Speaker 16: at the books at the DA and I never had

664
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Speaker 16: more count at the funeral in my life. The music

665
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 16: was incredible, the food, but it was not a mummer.

666
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 16: It was a celebration of that person's life.

667
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 17: It was really wonderful.

668
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Speaker 3: So what's your football question? Man?

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Speaker 16: I got off the track.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Dave, if you had to rates to Uh. Well,

671
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 7: by the way, the maybe midshipmen are gonna make the

672
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 7: bear of cats walk the blank the gangplank and give

673
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 7: him a burial at sea when we play in that

674
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 7: liberty bawl. Okay, just mark my words.

675
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: The shipmen are gonna whoop the.

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Speaker 17: Bear catch But okay, Uh, how would you rate battle?

677
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: And uh? And the stone?

678
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 5: Would you keep them?

679
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 10: Would you shop?

680
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: What would you do today?

681
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Speaker 3: You know? I here's the thing about battle. I think

682
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: battle Battle's coming from a battle test at university when

683
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: they're drafted him here so he knows he knows how

684
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: to play. I just think that sometimes schemes, schemes are a

685
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: little bit bigger and harder for some players. And I

686
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: know when when when de coordinator came from Notre Dame,

687
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Defense was flying around a lot of young guys,

688
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: and I think that's that was his mindset when he

689
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: will on it to have these guys here, my guy,

690
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: Geno Stone. You know, I've been pretty heavy on him,

691
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: just excemple fact that you know he's he's missing tackles

692
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: or I think a lot of it is just being

693
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: on a place when you're when you're on a place,

694
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: you have to work hard to get back in the place.

695
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: These guys are running left and right when they don't

696
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: have to. You know, I look at stuff and they

697
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: run out of there really quick. Pre snap, they're fifteen

698
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: to twenty yards deep. Quarterback sees that, what does he do?

699
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: He throws the ball in front of him because these

700
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: guys now have dropping ten yards deeper. Linebackers are not

701
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: getting deep. Linebackers are short, or they're getting too deep,

702
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: and they're they're all wide open. I do believe that

703
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: these players are out of place. And the last couple

704
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: of weeks, I'd have to give Geno stone and battle,

705
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: you know somewhere around that c plus that they were

706
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: playing okay. But again, it's eleven guys on defense have

707
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: to do their job for all of them to be successful.

708
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: If one guy is out of place, or two guys

709
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: or three guys are out of place, that's hard to

710
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: that's hard to make up. When teams like Buffalo, teams

711
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: like Pittsburgh, teams like Baltimore are throwing the ball in

712
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: the middle of the field when your guys aren't there.

713
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen to our offense. You don't see

714
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: our tight ends wide open across the middle because these

715
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: guys are out of place, and that's why they rush

716
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: for one hundred and eighty three yards today gashes one

717
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: and eighty three yards come on.

718
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: And two hundred and fifty one yards through the air.

719
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Speaker 2: So they were very balanced, very balanced.

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Speaker 3: Man. We are not.

721
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: The Bengals are not balanced. They're not running the football enough.

722
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: Period. What we're looking for is we're looking for Joe

723
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: Burrow to win football games all the time. And if

724
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow doesn't win football games, if Joe Burrow doesn't

725
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: throw four touchdowns like he did today, we're out. If

726
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow throwed, don't throw those two interceptions, we win

727
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: the football game. But we want to blame that on Joe. No,

728
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: we gave up thirty something points. If we don't give

729
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: up the thirty something points, we got another victory in

730
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: a thirty points score that we've scored. What's our what's

731
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: the record of the Bengals when it comes to this

732
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: year with thirty something point.

733
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: Five, scoring thirty three or more points two and five.

734
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: The rest of the league is fifty two and one.

735
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: Come on, man, we're supposed to be part of fifty two.

736
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: We're part of the We're not part of fifty two

737
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: because we can't stop people from.

738
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Schooling and we've got to run. Mike and La appreciate

739
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: the call. Thanks Mike. We've got Bryce, We've got Patrick,

740
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: and we've got Rick. Hang on, we're coming to you next.

741
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Speaker 2: We've reached the bottom of the hour break. We're live

742
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: at Wings and Rings, the Kings Mills location, and you're

743
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game Sports

744
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: Talk presented by RNL Carriers seven hundre WLW in Cincinnati's

745
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back to the Tri State Chevy

746
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Dealer's postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folter,

747
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: this is Chick Ludwig, and we are live at Wings

748
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: and Rings, that Kings Mills location, fifty five seventeen King

749
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: Center Drive in Mason on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN.

750
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: We're breaking down the bengals thirty nine to forty thirty

751
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball.

752
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: Like a wrecking ball. We just got a good little

753
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: kudos thumbs up from our partner, Lance mccalison listening to us.

754
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, LUs, thank you Lance. Appreciate that. Brother.

755
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh I'm and I'm reading Lance on online. Man,

756
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: he's got some strong words from UC basketball.

757
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: Lance is good man, Lance is good Landae guy, He's

758
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: absolutely the best.

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00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out to the phones and welcome in

760
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: my man, Bryce in Anderson.

761
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: Bryce. What's going on.

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00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 16: By Jay?

763
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 18: Hey, David, I mean who else with the Bengals in

764
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 18: The Bengals were in position to win today and in

765
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 18: familiar Bengals fashion, Joe Brook there's two inter sessions on

766
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 18: backpack offensive place. But David, as you were saying, that's

767
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 18: not the only reason they lost. The Bengals have had

768
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 18: a tread of Selfing's looked at errors in the fourth

769
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 18: quarter that they really need to fix.

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00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it about the fourth quarter?

771
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Speaker 3: David?

772
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: You're supposed to finish, not to trample.

773
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'm That's what I'm saying, man. We there's something missing.

774
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: We got our foot on the gas, you know, Paul Brown,

775
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm going back to PB's team where you got to

776
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: foot down on the throat. You don't raise the foot

777
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: off somehow, we just keep raising our feet up. We don't.

778
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: We don't know how to We don't have that killer

779
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: killedness at the end of it, the killer instinct of saying,

780
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna we're going after you. But other teams do

781
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: it to us. There's never a comfortable win. Never. Never,

782
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: you're I'm holding.

783
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: My breath with a fourteen point lead with two minutes

784
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: to go with this club, you're right stepping on the gas,

785
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: putting the foot on the throat.

786
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: We don't know how to close, finish and close. Close.

787
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: That's it. If we knew how to close the deal.

788
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 3: You watch the other teams in the NFL how they

789
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: closed the deal. How does the day's game become all

790
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: about the tight ends for Buffalo? That shouldn't happen. I'm

791
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: probably gonna be saying this until the next week is

792
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 3: old with because it should not happen that a tight

793
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: end football with the Buffalo Bills. Now we're talking, we're

794
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: talking Josh Allen, we're talking a good running back and

795
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: Cook and they got some tight ends, and they got

796
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: wide receivers. But the tight ends are the ones who

797
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 3: beat us today. That's exactly right.

798
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Thirteen targets, eleven catches, one hundred and thirty seven yards,

799
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: Jowson Knox six catches for ninety three, Dalton Kincaid four

800
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: catches for forty one and a touchdown, and Jackson Hawes, Yeah,

801
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: one catch, three yards, touchdown.

802
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, ithoudn't happen. And you know that touchdown that he threw.

803
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: Guess what there was nobody buying. All of them linebackers

804
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: had their numbers facing the quarterback. You can't play football

805
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: until you find the ball. If you don't find the ball, chick,

806
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 3: those things are gonna happen. And it happened to us

807
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: twice to day.

808
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: Oh Josh Allen threaded the needle on that first touch,

809
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: Now he did that was incredible, But.

810
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: You know it was coming. I knew it was coming.

811
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: I could see. I could see at the line of

812
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: scrimmage that the end to What about the quick passes

813
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: that they ran, the quick slant, we're not even we're

814
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: not even stopping that right see. And for me to

815
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: get on the goal line, I've got If I'm a corner,

816
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: I've got help. If I do have help on the inside.

817
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 3: I've got ten guys inside of me. If I've got help,

818
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: I'll stand outside. But when I don't have help, I

819
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: gotta be head up. I can't give him a way

820
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: to go outside or inside. And we give up the

821
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: inside twice.

822
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: And on right before James Cook's fumble in the end zone. Yes,

823
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals corner back in the red zone seven

824
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: yards off the line of scrimmage, a quick slant inside,

825
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: you're giving You're giving up a catch inside like the

826
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: five yard line.

827
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: You know when the rule of thumb is when you

828
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: get down inside the end zone or you're on the

829
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: three yard line and you stand on the goal line,

830
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: you don't back up. You stand there. You make the

831
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: quarterback to have a perfect throw to throw it over

832
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: your head. If you back up and you're two yards

833
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: in the end zone, you just gave that guy two

834
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: yards to catch the ball. And that's what we're doing.

835
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 3: I don't know what the scheme is asking for them

836
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: to do down in the red zone, but right now

837
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: we're really really abysmal in bad in the red zone

838
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 3: because we're giving up touchdowns frequently, not just won every

839
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: blue moon. We're giving up seven six six six points

840
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: in the red zone and it's killing us. Let's go

841
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: out to the phones.

842
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Chuck is in New York, Chuck, get there, Chuck.

843
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: Okay. I wonder if he's the Bill's Mafia.

844
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: And I'm in touch with a member of the Bill's Mafia,

845
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: the one who started it, Del Reed. I love you,

846
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: great guy. We exchanged text this week. He said good

847
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: luck to the Bengals, but not too much, you know.

848
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: And I told him, I said, if the Bengals can't

849
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, Buffo, I'm rooting for the Buffalo Bill.

850
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: They have unbelievable fans. They the Buffalo Bill Mafia fans,

851
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: Cincinnati fans, you know, two of the greatest franchises fans

852
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: in football.

853
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: Driving into what is at high Mark Stadium, now it's

854
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: got about ten he's had.

855
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 3: Ten different names.

856
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Turning the corner and driving up to high Mark Stadium,

857
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: You've got folks on both sides of the.

858
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: Street and walk. And this was the last game into

859
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: that in that stadium.

860
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They was the last game into their

861
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: new stadium. So unbelievable. But they're lined up drinking their

862
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: little back blue. Oh yeah, on both sides of the street. Yeah,

863
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: tailgating for Miles the awesome.

864
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: They don't, they don't. They do not stop partying in

865
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: Buffalo until tomorrow. Right now, they're probably gonna having a

866
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: good time right now in Buffalo.

867
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Do we have john in Boston.

868
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Speaker 5: Chick David, how are you guys today?

869
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: We are good. We're hanging in Johnny.

870
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's all we could do right after that one.

871
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 19: That was an exhausting loss. You know, I want to

872
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 19: get more on the defense here. Obviously, Borrow's interceptions were monumental,

873
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 19: more of the first one than the second one. The

874
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 19: second one was a tip. But when you look at

875
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 19: the defense, they don't have any wide receivers Buffalo. They

876
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 19: just Brandon Cooks, so you really never self threatened by

877
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 19: the receivers.

878
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 5: They sit a full job of.

879
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 19: Covering the tight ends all game long. I mean, that

880
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 19: should have been priority number two, after making sure Allen

881
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 19: doesn't beat you with his legs. The Patriots beat the

882
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 19: Bills earlier when the season held them to twenty points

883
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 19: in Buffaloes. They're only lost in the last two plus

884
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 19: seasons because they were so disciplined on the pass rush

885
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 19: that there weren't lanes for.

886
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: Him to run.

887
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 19: If you have a choice of Josh Allen sitting in

888
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 19: the pocket and picking you apart or running, let him

889
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 19: try to pick you apart. I don't think he could

890
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 19: have a seven eight nine play drive like Burrow does

891
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 19: where they go down and meticulously.

892
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: Advance the ball once you open up the running lanes.

893
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 19: For him, it's total chaos and then that fan base

894
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 19: goes not that forty one.

895
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: Yards down run.

896
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 19: For me, it was the biggest play of the game

897
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 19: because you're up ten. He does that, the crowd goes

898
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 19: n year only down three, the sidelines going nothing. It's

899
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 19: like faith goes up. At to that point, it played

900
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 19: pretty garden. They're perfect and they only had a three

901
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 19: point lead.

902
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: Cedrick Johnson rushed the quarterback but went right casting.

903
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: See that vacated a.

904
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: Area and Josh Allen runs a forty yard touchdown.

905
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: You know what do we talk about? Angles? Angles and angles,

906
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: blocking and tackling, throwing and catching angles. So you got

907
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: two guys rushing, you got one lineman. He's gotta grab

908
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: one of them, and he grabs the inside guy and

909
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: the outside guy. You gotta slow down. You can't. You're

910
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: trying to get in there and make this kill shot.

911
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: We need short tacklers with smart instincts. When you start,

912
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: when you're free, you gotta break down. You can't just

913
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: run in there like a wrecking ball, thinking you're gonna

914
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: tackle this quarterback. And Josh Allen is not your typical quarterback.

915
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: Josh Allen will bring it to you. He's not getting down,

916
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: so you have to slow down to make a short tackle.

917
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: And we didn't do it.

918
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: And if you run past him, you're dead.

919
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: You're dead. You're dead. And you saw him running down

920
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: the field and our dB, the dB is covering the receiver.

921
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: Come on, man, the ball it ain't came there yet.

922
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: Can you turn your head to see what's going on? Oh,

923
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback's running running, Go make a play. He's still

924
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: running down the field, running with the wide receiver. And

925
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: that just tells me is that we're not there. We're

926
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: not all there. We're focused on one thing, covering that receiver.

927
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: When the quarterback is running free for sixty yards and

928
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: he's coming towards you just stop, turn around and go

929
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: make a tackle. It's tough.

930
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 19: It's having a third and fifteen run by Josh Allen.

931
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: Right, I'm.

932
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 19: This is going to be an eighteen yard run. Well

933
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 19: was it an eighteen yard run? It was no surprise

934
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 19: because again and.

935
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 3: You knew it was coming. You knew it was coming. Yeah,

936
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: the essence of Josh Allen.

937
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: What a what a beast. He's unbelievable.

938
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: Nine carries, seventy eight yards. Yeah, Josh Allen is a

939
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 3: quarterback and running back and one tight end and one body.

940
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 3: The guy was not flown. He will not fall down.

941
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: He's going to challenge you if if you don't hit him,

942
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: he's gonna continue to keep doing that to you. So

943
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: if I'm the defensive guy on defense, I'm not trying

944
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: to hurt you, Josh, but you're gonna you're gonna feel

945
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: thirty three all day, you know. And if he keeps

946
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: running the ball you hit him, that is not your

947
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: fault that he's a quarterback trying to be a running back.

948
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: You knock his head off. And these guys won't do it. Man,

949
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: They're gonna spy him. Can you spy? Let me tell

950
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: you something. Every time the Bengals play football, I don't

951
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: care who it is. Next week is Baltimore Ravens. You

952
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 3: spy a guy? You put a linebacker right there? Five

953
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: six yards off the line of scrimmage and his job,

954
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: his solo job, is to make sure that that quarterback

955
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 3: does not get out of that pocket and take off running.

956
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: If you don't do that, you're gonna lose. And then

957
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: you got Lamar Jackson come in here next week. The

958
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: same thing is gonna happen if you do not have

959
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: a spy there, Despy, that guy he's gonna beat you

960
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: with his feet.

961
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: Hey, appreciate the costs. We've got to take a break.

962
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Speaker 2: We're live at Wings and Rings, the Kings Mills location,

963
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,800
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964
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW

965
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966
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers.

967
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: He's David Folter and we've got Fulter's Vultures Fulters. This

968
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig. There might be a couple of magnets

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Speaker 2: in the house.

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Speaker 3: Magnetig magazine here, but we are talking Bengals football, wall

971
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Speaker 3: to wall. Great to have four.

972
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: Time All American David Folter from Arizona State University with

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Speaker 2: us a truly legend strip Yes, sir, that's right. Oh

974
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: my gosh, let's go out to the phones. We've got

975
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Chuck is back from New York.

976
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: Chuck.

977
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: Are you and the Bills Mafia?

978
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

979
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 10: I've been a Bengals fan my whole life. What I'm

980
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 10: mad about it his chick is uh.

981
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 20: You know, when it comes down to Bill's Bengals, this

982
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 20: is Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow.

983
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, r lead.

984
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 20: Versus dear elite and narly played.

985
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 10: Better than our lead. There's the only way to describe it.

986
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: Right, Well, Josh Allen is a monster, and like David said,

987
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: he is a combination quarterback, running back, line, h back. Yeah,

988
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: he's everything. He's everything. Joe Burrow is a warrior.

989
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 10: Joe Burrows are everything to.

990
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: See. If if if I'm and I'm watching Josh Allen,

991
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 3: I'm watching what the Buffalo Bills do with Josh Allen.

992
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, if you were watching him when he scrambles,

993
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: he fakes the ball like he's going to throw it

994
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: a lot and people jump, Well, you're supposed to stay

995
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: on your feet. You don't go for the faith. If

996
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: he throws the ball and you stay on your feet,

997
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: you run through him and you make a tackle. If

998
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 3: he jumps and throws the ball, or like he's gonna

999
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: jump and throw the ball and he doesn't throw it,

1000
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 3: then you got a chance to make the good tackle.

1001
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: I don't know why people don't spy him. You know,

1002
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: I know this sounds crazy because you're gonna wind up

1003
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: having it.

1004
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 10: I agree, but I agree.

1005
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 20: I think that like when when we throwed up the

1006
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 20: game did here at the beginning of teas, it was

1007
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 20: Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen was just

1008
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 20: simply better.

1009
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 3: See I beg the difference when I hear people say

1010
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen, because Joe Burrow is throwing

1011
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 3: against the Buffalo Bill's defense, not Josh Allen. Josh Allen

1012
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: is playing against the Bengals defense, not Joe Burrow. So

1013
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: when when Josh, when Josh Allen wins the game, you

1014
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: can't get in say Joe Burrow, you lost the game

1015
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: because Josh Allen beat you. No, the defense didn't stop

1016
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: Josh Allen.

1017
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: Two great quarterbacks. And that's the beauty of the NFL,

1018
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: that different.

1019
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: Styles, different styles. Well, that one was better because the

1020
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: other side of the ball let him do what he

1021
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: wanted to do and the other one didn't. Them two

1022
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: interceptions that Joe threw, now I know those were bad

1023
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: interceptions and Joe wish you had him back, But it

1024
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: wasn't Josh Allen intercepting Joe Burrow. It was the defense

1025
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: and they lined it up for Joe, for Josh Allen

1026
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: or Joe Burrow to make a play or not make

1027
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: a play. So I know when it comes up and

1028
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: I see people go Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen, well,

1029
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Burrow is a quarterback for us and

1030
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: Josh was the quarterback of Buffalo. But they still got

1031
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: to make plays and the defense got to stop him.

1032
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 20: I think the game was I think the game was

1033
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 20: lost in the first half when Burrow was scrambling around

1034
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 20: and he couldn't connect with Tea because you know, the

1035
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 20: defense as bad as it is.

1036
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: For us, that that play right there, I'll tell you

1037
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: you've got a field goal. You're correct that play first

1038
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: exactly when Higgins dropped the ball, like, I think those

1039
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: were the two key players that of that game. The

1040
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 3: play that Joe scrambled and he threw back across his

1041
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: body and he just threw the ball over t Higgins.

1042
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: That was a big play. If Joe connects that play,

1043
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: that's an opportunity for them to either go down and

1044
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: kick a field goal or go down score a touchdown.

1045
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 3: And those are the plays that other teams are making

1046
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: on us. If you're talking about the end of the half. Yeah,

1047
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: when Joe overthrew team and he was wide open and

1048
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: it was just dropping to him, you know, and adrenaline,

1049
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: throw the ball too hard, you're.

1050
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 10: Moving and what happened to get open? But it was

1051
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 10: just a mess. Yah.

1052
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, you can't get them all and

1053
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: and for fortunate for us today we had an opportunity.

1054
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: Thank you, brother.

1055
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: That's a lot Chuck. Yes, we've got John and Independence.

1056
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: Hey John, Hello, fellas, where are you John?

1057
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: We're good.

1058
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: I'm good man considering the loss.

1059
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 12: I'm a lifer, man.

1060
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 7: I love the Bangles.

1061
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: Same here, man, You're not same here in nineteen sixty eight.

1062
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you got me beat by a few years.

1063
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 5: You guys do a tremendous show. I think I tuned

1064
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: in a lot and thank you for that.

1065
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: But you're welcome.

1066
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people driving a lot of people driving

1067
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: back home. They're listening. So I appreciate. We appreciate each

1068
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: and every listener every day from sea to Shining Sea

1069
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: and beyond.

1070
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Speaker 10: Yep, yeah, you guys are great. Thank you.

1071
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1072
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 13: I thought it was a comment today. I thought, you know,

1073
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor has a Porsche referring to the Bengals team.

1074
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 5: Why is he being out driven by the other people.

1075
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 10: Along the road?

1076
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that one.

1077
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: Why is he being driven off the road if he's

1078
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: got a Porsche?

1079
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 20: Okay, he's got as a team is what I'm what

1080
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 20: I'm comparing with.

1081
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 10: Okay, he's got a Porsche.

1082
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 5: This is a fantastic team.

1083
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 10: Both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 5: They do make mistakes, we all do.

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00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 17: But Beth Taylor has a Porsche for his vehic and.

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 13: Every other vehicle on the road is driving better and

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00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 13: faster than they're winning. Why aren't we winning when we

1088
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 13: have a Porsche As a team.

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: The Bengals cannot close, They cannot close the deal. They

1090
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: had the opportunity today with a ten point lead with

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: eight minutes and forty four seconds to go, and then

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00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: two interceptions happened.

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00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: Yep, Now we're behind. No, I agree, I agree with you.

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean, this is if if we're going to put

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: vehicles in place of saying this should happen. If we're

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00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: a poors, we're We're not. We're not. We're not putting

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: our foot down on the gas pedal.

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: The defense was a mash rambler and it got run

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: over by a runaway.

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00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: Train in the second half. In the fourth quarter, a

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00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: lot of four by four is on that on that

1102
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 3: other team just ran right on top of us. All

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00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: we gotta do is make up. You know, when you

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00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: look at it, Chick, it's it's it's a play here

1105
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: and a play there. Yeah, it's not like it's fifteen

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: plays throughout the game that that are. It's a play

1107
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: here of play there. Third down. Offensively, we were at

1108
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: one time, I'm not mistaken we were. We finished the

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00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: game I think nine of eleven or eight ten on

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: third down eight eight eighty eight percent eighty percent third

1111
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 3: down and you don't win the game. Tells me something

1112
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: wrong and we're missing something somewhere else. So somebody's got

1113
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: to step up and make a play, or this whole

1114
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: team needs to step up and make a play. And

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00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: for some reason, man, we just don't know how to

1116
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: close the door. I hear, I hear, I hear our

1117
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: our our radio broadcast and uh Dave Lapping and Dan

1118
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: Horde coffin nails, coffin nails. Well we forgot the hammer, yep,

1119
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: because we can't we can't nail put the nail in

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: the coffin if we don't do our job. And right

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: now we're not doing our job enough. And Johnny, we

1122
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: got to run. Appreciate it.

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: How about thanks, thank you very much. How about Johnny

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00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: and West Carrollton? Is that right, Johnny?

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: Is he there? How about Hello?

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00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: Help?

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00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 3: Hey? Is this Johnny?

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00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 10: Hello?

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: Who do you got talk to us?

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 21: Man?

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 17: We hear you.

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00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 4: Church?

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00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: Question?

1134
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 14: Is louping his asshof right now?

1135
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: Is Lou laughing?

1136
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 7: Well, if he laughing his asshof right now?

1137
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily they just lost their quarterback. They just

1138
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: lost in the quarterback. They probably not laughing, but I will

1139
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: say that he's probably saying it wasn't my fault in

1140
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 3: Cincinnati because I got a team in the Inannapolis. Boy,

1141
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: my defense is playing well.

1142
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 20: Alabama could put points on us right now. Come on, now,

1143
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 20: our defense is terrible.

1144
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: Come on the.

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 10: Face this David Polcher, you're a defensive guy.

1146
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 3: Talk to me now. No, I've said it earlier, Man,

1147
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 3: I've said it earlier.

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01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 15: Man.

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01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: Our defense is they're suspect. You know, we're I think

1150
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: we're out of place. I know, I know we missed tackles,

1151
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: but but I would say that, you know you you

1152
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: you've got to find a way to make it happen. Man,

1153
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: you got eleven guys on defense. They need to have

1154
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: that close, closed door meeting. They probably did already, but

1155
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: somehow we're not We're not consistent enough. You know, you're

1156
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: gonna give him some first downs, you're gonna give up

1157
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: a catch, you're gonna give up a run, But you

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: can't keep giving up five or six or seven of

1159
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: those throughout a game and expect to win. Thank you, man,

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01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for carling.

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01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 2: Zach, you for calling Yes, sir, we've got we've got

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01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: Mike and Norwood.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, how about no everybody?

1164
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: Did you like call cool and calm?

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 14: He what a game we played against the best team

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01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 14: in the WEFC, and we gave him a run for

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01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 14: the money for the show, and fortunately.

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Speaker 17: We lost, but it was a good game.

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Speaker 14: And I just want to point out that when fifty eight.

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 14: Osiah knocked the scrambling numbers of that dude at the

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Speaker 14: one yard line and he fumbled and should have been

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 14: a touchback, and that would.

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Speaker 4: Have changed his school.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mike, I appreciate the call. We've got to

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Speaker 2: take a break. We're live at Wings and Rings to

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Speaker 2: Kings Mills location. He's David Fulcher. This is Chick Ludwig.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports

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Speaker 2: Talk presented by RNL Carriers following the Bengals thirty nine

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Speaker 2: to thirty four loss in Orchard Park, New York by

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports

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Speaker 2: Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLW and

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. And we're live at Wings and

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Speaker 2: Rings the King's Mills location fifty five seventeen King Center Drive,

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Speaker 2: really within the shadows of King's Island. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside Bengals legendary strong safety David

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Speaker 2: Folter faux Rock. His wife, Judy's here, the family's here.

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: Judy just had a birthday. Happy birthday, Judi birthday girl.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: And we are breaking down the Bengals thirty nine to

1204
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: thirty four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball.

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01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: Mike Mills is are awesome. On site engineer Shoeless Joe

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Speaker 2: Waddell producing back in our Kenwood studios.

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Speaker 3: Shoeless Joe like that.

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Speaker 2: Wings Burgers, Sandwiches, Salads, appetizers, drink specials, wings and rings,

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Speaker 2: has it all. And we're here on the King Center

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Speaker 2: Drive till eight thirty tonight. If you can't join us live,

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Speaker 2: I hope you'll call us at five one, three, seven

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Speaker 2: four nine, seven thousand and before we go out to

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Speaker 2: the phones, let's look at the Guilty Windows Window of

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Speaker 2: opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key to

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: quality windows is trusting the pros Kilkey windows. How about

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: DJ Turner knocking the ball out of the grasp of

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01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: James cook Yes, and it's squirts loose in the end

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 2: zone and linebacker or in Burks yep, chucks on it yep.

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: And that started a big time drive for the Bengals.

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: And those are the opportunities that this defense can take

1221
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: and have little chance is to give it back to

1222
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: an offense that was clicking. This offense was on fire today.

1223
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: They were doing exactly what they wanted to do against Buffalo.

1224
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 3: It's just that we just don't do enough to close

1225
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: the door.

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: And that's why it was twenty one to eighteen, James

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01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: Cooks getting ready to go into the end zone give

1228
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 2: Buffalo a lead. And when the Bengals got that ball

1229
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: with the twenty yard line, I said, here we go.

1230
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: I said, I'm starting to feel pretty good about a

1231
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: dub today.

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: And I felt the same way man when they were

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01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: up fourteen three, I said, you know what if they

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01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: can just maintain yeah, what they're doing, And they did

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: that first three drives, three touchdowns, all of a sudden,

1236
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: you gotta make some adjustments, and that's what Buffalo did

1237
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: to slow them down a little bit. And then we

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01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: can't get the ball in the end home for another

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 3: quarter and a half.

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Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones, Jim in the great

1241
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: state of Arkansas?

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Speaker 3: Are you there, Jim?

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 11: I am here.

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 10: Thank you for holding, but not a problem.

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Speaker 11: I'm glad I finally they can pick up W L

1246
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 11: W because I kind of lost it touch with everything

1247
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 11: on the way down. But a couple of things, Uh,

1248
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 11: I've coached a little bit in my life high school.

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01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 11: And you're talking about the linebackers and what I see, David,

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01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 11: and you know better than me, I believe it looks

1251
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 11: like our linebackers are setting up too deep and our

1252
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 11: defensive backs are setting up too shallow. So it looks

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 11: like the linebackers got to get turned around and to

1254
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 11: get their feet tangled up because they want to back.

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 11: They want to back battle instead of a slide and sideways.

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Speaker 11: And what upset me to boast about it is I

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 11: listened to Ken and Brew this morning, and the guy

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Speaker 11: that he has on there every week to forecast the

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01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 11: games and whatever, he said that the Fingals are terrible

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Speaker 11: at covering the tied ends and that's would be the

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 11: down fall. And that's exactly what happened. So this guy

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 11: knows it, why can't we stop it?

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01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:08,479
Speaker 3: Well?

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01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: And Dan Horde during the broadcast, the voice of the

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: Bengals gave this stat that the Bengals are the worst

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01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: team in the league covering the tight ends. They're giving

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Speaker 2: up ninety three point four yards.

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Speaker 3: A game to the titles tight end. Wow, that's a hun. Wow,

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 3: that's bad. That's really bad. And you know, strong safeties,

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01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: free safeties. They switched on a movement and guy goes

1271
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: in motion, this guy goes up, this guy go back.

1272
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: But you're gonna see safeties playing man and man on

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 3: tight ends. Most linebackers don't play man and man on

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01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 3: tight ends. They play man and man on the running

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01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 3: backs coming out of the backfield. But every time I

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 3: look up and I see our defense, and I'm not

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 3: I guess I'm kind of overwhelmed and I'm tired of

1278
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: seeing how bad they are. You see their backs, but

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: you see their backs when I when I watched them,

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 3: they especially in the red zone, in the end zone.

1281
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: You know they're playing zone and the end zone. Okay,

1282
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: so when they're plan zoning the end zone, it's hard

1283
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 3: to cover a guy plans on because you don't know

1284
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: where he's going. But when you get inside the five

1285
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: yard line and it's a pass play, you've become It

1286
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 3: becomes man to man. Now on the receiver, tight end, receiver,

1287
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 3: running back. But you can't turn your back to the

1288
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: quarterback because when you turn your back to the quarterback.

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 3: It happened to us in the Jets game. It happened

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 3: to us in the Bears game. All of our touchdowns

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01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: that we've been giving up late in the game are

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 3: having defensive backs with their backs to the quarterback. You

1293
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: don't know what the guy's doing. That touchdown that johnsh

1294
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 3: Allen threw to that receiver, a linebacker was right in

1295
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: his face, but he was looking at the receiver and

1296
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: the balls coming right behind him. If he just turns

1297
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: his head and look back. He either intercept the ball

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Speaker 3: or knock it down. And we to me, that's coaching.

1299
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 3: That's teaching.

1300
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: Well you're teaching. If that's what you're teaching, is bad.

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01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: That was the touchdown to Shakir one of their wide receivers.

1302
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, come on, now, the linebacker's not playing

1303
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: man and man on the receiver, but he's playing zone.

1304
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: But if you're playing zone and you got your back

1305
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: to the quarterback, you have no idea what's coming. You're right.

1306
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: The long run touchdown that he had, the long touchdown

1307
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: that Josh Allen had, the defensive back was looking at

1308
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: the receiver as they were running down the field. After

1309
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: five or ten yards and running with the receiver, something's happening.

1310
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 3: Turn your head and try to find the ball to

1311
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 3: see what's going on. You turn around, you make a

1312
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 3: tackle on Josh Fallen, and maybe there's an opportunity to

1313
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: keep them from scoring a touchdown or kick a field goal. Tough.

1314
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 11: What I've seen a couple of times is when a

1315
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,480
Speaker 11: quarterback takes off once he crosses that line of scrimmage,

1316
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 11: there's no need for you to keep covering that receiver.

1317
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 11: You've got to go back, like you said, and make

1318
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 11: to tackle me. But I've correct too many times many.

1319
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. Why you're listening

1320
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 3: and you see this? Is this a is this a

1321
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 3: is this a coach? Is this coaching? Or was this player?

1322
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 3: Because if you're teaching me how to play football or

1323
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 3: in a system, I shouldn't be coached to keep my

1324
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: back away from the quarterback. So what are these guys

1325
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: doing and where they're getting that from?

1326
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's that's Yeah, that you know it because

1327
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 11: those are basics, David. Those are basics.

1328
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 3: That is that's the stuff that we teaching. That's the

1329
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: stuff we teaching Pop Warner football. That's the stuff we

1330
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 3: teach in high school and college. And when you get

1331
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 3: to the professional rankings, you should know what to do.

1332
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 2: And Jim and Jim we got to run.

1333
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jim.

1334
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the call. All right, take care of

1335
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: Donald in Nashville.

1336
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: Donald, are you there, yes, sir?

1337
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 10: Thank you?

1338
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 5: Everything gonna call, yes, sir.

1339
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 15: But I just wanted just to make up of comments

1340
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 15: about the game today.

1341
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 5: I guess I've got some questions.

1342
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 15: That the morning answers. I guess number one, do you

1343
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 15: do we still have an outside chance of getting.

1344
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 3: In the playoffs.

1345
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a really a good chance.

1346
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: And then number two, three games out with four to go,

1347
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: there is still there's still a chance.

1348
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: Yep, there's still a chance because that we still got

1349
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: to play Baltimore, Pittsburgh, still got to play some teams

1350
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 3: that we've already played. So there's a lot of stuff

1351
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 3: that can happen. Being down three three games with four

1352
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: left to play, we put it this way, today would

1353
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: have been a perfect day for us to keep the playoffs,

1354
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 3: hope alive with a serious opportunity. But that window of opportunity,

1355
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: as we talk about here, that window was starting to close,

1356
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: if it's not already closed. But they just got to

1357
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: go out and play. I mean, it's football. You gotta battle.

1358
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: If you don't battle, then you shouldn't be playing.

1359
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 15: But another question I asked was do you think that

1360
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 15: Zach has lost the way to get in contact with

1361
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 15: the players of making them stepped up.

1362
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a pretty good question. I don't know if

1363
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: Zach has lost what's going on because I think it's

1364
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: more to me. I've never blamed anything on a coach.

1365
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: It's my job to do what I'm supposed to do.

1366
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: Chick and I are on radio right now doing our job.

1367
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: I got a text from wild Man Walker, how you

1368
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 3: doing homes He was talking about the Bengals and blah

1369
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: blah blah, and if Chick and I don't do our job,

1370
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna find replacements. Yes, And when they find replacements,

1371
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: that replacement better be better than Chicken David, because if they're not,

1372
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 3: they're gonna bring David and Chick back. So when I'm

1373
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 3: looking at this football team and what Zach had four

1374
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: or five years ago, it doesn't look the same. You've

1375
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 3: changed the defensive coordinators, You've changed players in and out,

1376
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 3: because that's what the football. It's a care sale. You

1377
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: go from one team to the next team, and you're

1378
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 3: trying to audition for another team just in case you

1379
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: get released or cut from one team. I don't know.

1380
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say he doesn't have the player's attention,

1381
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: but it doesn't look like it did three or four

1382
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 3: years ago.

1383
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 15: My last question with y'all is is Henderson is he

1384
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 15: coming back or is he done for the year.

1385
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I don't know. Man, whatever is back,

1386
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 3: his back is bothering him. I did see the hit

1387
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 3: that when it happened that lineman came out of nowhere

1388
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: and just dusted him in the back and he wasn't

1389
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 3: ready for it. But I'm not He walked off the field,

1390
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: So why is he not playing? With all the therapy

1391
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: and all the stuff that the NFL and the players

1392
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 3: got to day, they can go in there right now

1393
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 3: and rub a wand on his back and he should

1394
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 3: be playing on Sunday nine. So twenty nine million dollars

1395
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 3: that pays. He's coming in and he is not complaining.

1396
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 3: Thank you, brother.

1397
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate st we got to run.

1398
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1399
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: Jesse in Forest Park, Jesse, are you there? How about

1400
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: Mike and Cherry Grove?

1401
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing?

1402
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: We are good hanging in here?

1403
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 5: Oh good?

1404
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: Heay.

1405
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 5: Just a couple of things. When you play, Josh Allen,

1406
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 5: I think give your number one priority is to have

1407
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 5: somebody filling lane so he can't run the way he does. Now,

1408
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 5: he's a good player, but there was nobody, I mean

1409
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 5: nobody in his way. And look, you were talking about

1410
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 5: a spy or whatever. You gotta do something to cut

1411
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 5: off the channels, don't you.

1412
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 3: I don't understand that. Well, I'll tell you this here, man.

1413
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 3: We had a spy. We had a spy on this

1414
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 3: team a couple of years ago. We had a spiral

1415
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 3: and to seem a couple of years ago, and his

1416
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 3: name was Mike Hilton. Mike Hilton was standing there. He's

1417
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: five foot seven, you know, one hundred and eighty pounds.

1418
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: But Mike Hilton can run, he can make sure tackles. Well,

1419
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 3: this defensive coordinator didn't want Mike Hilton. He's too small.

1420
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: But this guy plays. He made plays. So if I'm

1421
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 3: saying that I need somebody to chase the quarterback around

1422
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 3: like Josh Allen, I'm making a phone call to bring

1423
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: Mike Hilton back. If I don't have a Mike Hilton

1424
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 3: on my team, somebody's gotta be Mike Hilton for me

1425
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: to do what I need to get done. Because you know,

1426
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 3: Josh Allen is gonna run first. And that's what people

1427
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: don't realize about Josh Allen. As much as Josh Allen

1428
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 3: throws the ball and he's got all these touchdowns, he

1429
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 3: really wants to run the football first before throw the ball.

1430
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 3: He's got the most because that dude is so strong

1431
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 3: that he is gonna run through people. So that means

1432
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 3: I got to have somebody be married to him all

1433
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: through the game. Wherever he goes, you go.

1434
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 19: Your number one priority against ten is to stop the runs.

1435
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 5: You gotta make the second thing.

1436
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1437
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,520
Speaker 5: The Bengals were gashing them all over the field. Casecki's

1438
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 5: catching balls. Everything's looking great. You're at the thirty something

1439
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 5: yard line first and ten, and you throw a little

1440
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 5: swing pass out for the right.

1441
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,919
Speaker 3: Why don't you go for the juggler.

1442
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 5: Now, Chase may have been open, maybe he might have

1443
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 5: picked up some yards, But how many screens did they

1444
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 5: throw today?

1445
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 4: Was that the only one?

1446
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 5: I mean, throw the ball down the field because they

1447
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 5: haven't stopped you. I don't understand why.

1448
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: That play call was made at that moment.

1449
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: Do you agree with you?

1450
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 15: Know?

1451
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I said the same thing.

1452
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 3: Here we are, we're up four points, three points, I

1453
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 3: don't know what we were up five minutes left in

1454
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: the game. We got the football, run the ball, make

1455
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: make make them stop my running game. If they can't

1456
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 3: stop the running game, we run the clock out. Games

1457
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: over and we come home happy. Bengals up three, but

1458
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: we're up. We're up three with a chance, and.

1459
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: You're on Buffalo's thirty three yard line first down.

1460
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: Come on, y'all, I mean, come on, they don't take

1461
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 3: a rocket scientist to fix this. It doesn't.

1462
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 5: I mean we We've got a running back that can

1463
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 5: pound the ball. The guy's a beat, give him the ball,

1464
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 5: take a three yards, stay ahead of the chain, and

1465
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 5: finish the game. You know, I just I thought that

1466
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 5: play call was stupid and get hurt.

1467
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, all right, thanks so much. No, that

1468
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: makes it, makes it makes sense, chick. I mean, you

1469
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: know p Ryan. You know, as much as I love

1470
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, I love Peter Ryan. I love them both.

1471
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: That's a that's a good one to two combination. You

1472
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 3: got the bruiser and you got the gifted guy that

1473
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 3: can run the ball. But we we we we try

1474
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 3: to at this think. We try to create stuff that's

1475
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 3: not there. Don't create something, don't fix it. If it's

1476
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 3: not broke, run the ball, beat them up, make Buffalo

1477
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 3: do something to stop you. And if they don't stop you,

1478
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: you win the football game. With the pounding on the ground.

1479
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: It's French pastry versus meeting potatoes.

1480
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: We want the meeting potatoes, don't we we want to

1481
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: meet potatoes man, but they're not serving that today. But

1482
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: they're not serving the meeting potatoes man, we can't eat it.

1483
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 3: He just likes the French pastry. He likes the pastries.

1484
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: The ball in the air, he likes the ball in

1485
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: the are. He wants to see his quarterback, Joe Burrow

1486
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 3: throw for full five hundred yards and full touchdowns. But

1487
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: you know what, man, I would take a win with

1488
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 3: my running back rushing for one hundred and fifty yards

1489
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 3: two hundred yards. And then look at Chase Chasing. They

1490
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 3: have a lot of catches.

1491
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: Twelve carries for Chase Brown twenty three yards.

1492
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: That's one point nine yards of carry.

1493
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: Samaja only carried it six times, but for thirty one

1494
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: yards that's five point two.

1495
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 3: Because we want to throw the football up and down

1496
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: the field, and it makes every happy when Joe Burrow

1497
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: throws touchdowns. Ugly football is when you run the football

1498
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 3: and you just beat people up. Nobody wants to see that.

1499
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 3: But you know what, I would rather win a game

1500
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 3: by pounding the ball twenty times than throwing having my

1501
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 3: quarterback go to the ball forty times.

1502
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: What did we learn watching the Steelers over the years,

1503
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: they would get a lead and then Jerome Bettis or

1504
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: any of them, any of them pound you in the

1505
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, shorten the game, get out of dodge and

1506
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: meaning we've got.

1507
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 3: To take a break.

1508
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 2: You are listening to the tri State Chevy Dealers postgame

1509
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. He's David Folcher. This

1510
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig. Where at Wings and Rings that Kings

1511
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: Mills location on Kings Center Drive in Mason. We're here

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Speaker 2: till eight thirty tonight on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's

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01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to the tri State Chevy

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: Dealers post games sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We

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01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 2: are live at Wings and Rings that Kings Mills location

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01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: fifty five seventeen King Center Drive. He's David Fulter. This

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01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty,

1518
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: continuing to break down the Bengals thirty nine to thirty

1519
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: four loss to the Buffalo Bills like a wrecking ball,

1520
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: and there's a there were a bunch of Bills fans

1521
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 2: in the house tonight, Yes they were, and I just

1522
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 2: wish them all the best. They were happy with the win.

1523
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: They need a few more so do the Bengals?

1524
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: Man, Yes, they do. Yes, three games out with four

1525
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 3: to go. Uh huh. It's a tough place, tough place

1526
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: to be in.

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01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: It's like the Super Bowl season, David. Every break went

1528
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: our way, the Bengals way, and now we're paying for

1529
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: it all.

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 3: You know, it's sad, man, because this is a good

1531
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: football team, this is a great city to be playing for.

1532
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 3: We got everything that you can act possibly ask for,

1533
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 3: but we just can't win a game. Can't win a game.

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01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's go back out to the phones. Do

1535
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 2: we still have carl and Oak Hills? And how about

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01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: Kevin in Texas?

1537
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:20,520
Speaker 3: Texas?

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 16: Hey, how y'all doing this season?

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01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: We are doing well, my friends. Thank you Kevin.

1540
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 5: Yes, hey, David, I want to say something right up front.

1541
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: Thank you for all those memories.

1542
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 19: In the nineteen eighty eight Super Bowl season.

1543
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 3: Eighty eight eighty nine. I was in tech school.

1544
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 22: At Rant, Illinois going through Air Force Tech training, and

1545
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 22: you gave me something good to look forward to while

1546
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 22: I was going through hell getting through air Force Tech training.

1547
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 9: So thank you for that.

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01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: Appreciate you man.

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01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 22: Wow, my big thing is when you watch what happened

1550
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 22: today when we got into the fourth quarter, why did

1551
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 22: Zach Taylor abandon the run? Why did we not put

1552
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 22: some extra tight ends out there, or some extra.

1553
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 3: Linemen and rely on p rind and.

1554
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 22: Make the Buffalo Bills take that game away from us?

1555
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 22: Because I feel like we just gave it away.

1556
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 3: You know, you make a great point, man, and valid point,

1557
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: but it's a I asked myself the same thing. I'm

1558
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 3: not a coach, so I don't call offensive plays. I

1559
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 3: just watch just like everybody else watching, and you just hindsighted.

1560
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, Zach Taylor saw something oh yeah, that he

1561
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: thought was really good for the team, and I was

1562
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: just shocked that they went away from I know they

1563
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: wasn't running the ball really well, but late in the game,

1564
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 3: you got five minutes, six minutes left in the game

1565
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 3: and you got the ball and you're winning. You forced

1566
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: the other team to stop you running the football. But

1567
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 3: we don't do that. We do something different. Joe throw's

1568
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: an interception. Now we got to come back and try

1569
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 3: to get back into the game. We throw another interception,

1570
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 3: and now the game is over. It's like mismanagement or

1571
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 3: clock management. Or bad time to call that play. But

1572
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: like I said, once again, he's the offense aveccording to

1573
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 3: the head coach, he calls a play. If they scored

1574
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 3: a touchdown, if Joe don't throw that interception and Chase

1575
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: catches that football, everybody's going to say, great call. But

1576
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: when it didn't happen the way we wanted to, now

1577
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: we want to call it a bad call. Tough man,

1578
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 3: tough being ahead coach, oh tough being an NFL player.

1579
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 3: It is tough. Hey appreciate it, Kevin, Thank you very much. keV,

1580
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: thank you man.

1581
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: And let's David. Let's highlight the drive of the game.

1582
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,000
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1583
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1584
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1585
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 2: where Passion Loves Company. And following the window of opportunity

1586
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: where they got the fumble in the end zone caused

1587
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: by DJ Turner, yes recovered by Owen Burks or in Burks,

1588
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

1589
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: Go on a twelve.

1590
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: Play, eighty yard drive that chewed up seven minutes and

1591
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: two seconds and it ended with Mike Kasicki's twelve yard

1592
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:23,799
Speaker 2: reception from Joe Burrow.

1593
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: What a beautiful pass. He's just he throws a beautiful ball.

1594
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,520
Speaker 3: He catch a ball, and the Bengals.

1595
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: Go up twenty eight to eighteen with eight forty four

1596
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: to go.

1597
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 3: I already had the w in the post. Yes, that's

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01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 3: what we're thinking.

1599
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 2: And one minute and eleven seconds later, Josh Allen sprints

1600
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: forty yards untouched into the end zone.

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1602
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,520
Speaker 3: That to me, That to me. I just don't understand

1603
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: what defensive play call. You know, Josh Allen is going

1604
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 3: to run the ball. He is going to run the

1605
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: ball before he throws the football. And sure enough the

1606
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 3: third down and fifteens, third and seventeens. I don't, I don't.

1607
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 3: We have to be the worst when it comes to

1608
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 3: third down getting off the field. We cannot get off

1609
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 3: the field on third down. We cannot.

1610
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: And the Bengals converted eight of ten eight or down,

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01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: including all four on their first drive.

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01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 3: And you don't win that. That That is that right

1613
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 3: there is heartening disheartening to play like you played today.

1614
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 3: On both sides of the ball. We knew Buffalo was

1615
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 3: gonna put some points on the ball. We knew they

1616
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 3: were going to move to football they're at home. That

1617
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 3: team don't lose at home much. But to go out

1618
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 3: there and three first drives for touchdowns, yes, and then

1619
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: we took the you know, it took a little break

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01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 3: to twenty one to eleven. We're ahead twenty one eleven,

1621
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: had a chance to go up some more points before

1622
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 3: the end of the half, and we don't. But I

1623
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,879
Speaker 3: just knew we had this game won. I think Buffalo

1624
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 3: knew they lost this game. But you know what, you

1625
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 3: don't lose a game in the second quarter. You lose

1626
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: the game in the fourth quarter. And we didn't. We

1627
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 3: didn't show up to play. They scored twenty eight in

1628
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: the second half, twenty one in the fourth quarter, twenty

1629
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: one points giving up in the fourth quarter. That right,

1630
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 3: there is a disaster waiting to happen, and we got

1631
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 3: that disaster today.

1632
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: Let's go out to the phones. John is in Middletown, John, Yes, sir.

1633
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 4: Man, guys, you know with everything, you know, as I

1634
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 4: always say, everything that happened in that game to the end,

1635
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 4: like I always.

1636
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 21: Say, it's in the game, right, but it's third and fifteen, right,

1637
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 21: third and fifteen, You're still in the game. With every

1638
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 21: kakamami thing, that happen, right, You're still in the game.

1639
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 4: If you stop them.

1640
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 21: They haven't been able to stop you all day long.

1641
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 21: If you stop this third and fifth geame play, you

1642
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 21: get the ball back of what a minute forty.

1643
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 4: But somewhere around there. Okay, they will stop you. Okay,

1644
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 4: what did.

1645
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 10: They do third and fifteen?

1646
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 21: You know they don't want to pass that Buffalo does

1647
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 21: not want to really pass it less they have to, right,

1648
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,799
Speaker 21: So what they're gonna do is they're gonna send everybody deep.

1649
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 4: And give Johnson room to run. The Bengals act like

1650
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 4: they had no idea, no idea that was gonna happen.

1651
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 10: No spies, no nothing.

1652
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 21: That's what feed us today is that right there, and

1653
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 21: they act like all.

1654
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 4: Day long they didn't know he was gonna run.

1655
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 21: They're gonna have to fix that. And another thing I noticed,

1656
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 21: they're gonna have somebody on the sideline. It's gonna have

1657
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 21: to keep Joe's fans warm. Okay, that had a little

1658
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 21: bit to do with that. In a session, the staff,

1659
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 21: they're gonna have to work on that. Guys, keep this

1660
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 21: man's hands warm.

1661
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 5: And I'm still with you.

1662
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 4: I'm still with the Bengals no.

1663
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 21: Matter what I mean, I want the Bengals to lose

1664
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 21: a million times before I watched any team win once.

1665
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 14: It's it, That's all I got.

1666
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it, John, and our good friend in

1667
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Mason Ohio. Ken, wish you were here.

1668
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 10: Ken, Yeah, I'm check on you.

1669
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 17: And full Rocker doing quite a show.

1670
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 5: So pull Rocket.

1671
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 17: A defensive coordinator named Dick Lebou who ran the famous

1672
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 17: zone blitz, which I think is the best NFL scheme

1673
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 17: that's ever been invented. Steve Spagnola believes that he's been

1674
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 17: doing it for the last twelve years. You know, these guys,

1675
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 17: I think it's a lack of communication, and I don't

1676
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 17: think they have an identity David. I don't think they

1677
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 17: hit hard. I don't see a Barney Bussy. I certainly

1678
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 17: don't see a David Pulcher out there on the field.

1679
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 10: I don't see a Tim Crumry.

1680
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 17: I don't see people that really want to hit. You know,

1681
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 17: on this defense, it looks as soft as I've ever seen.

1682
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh I thought they I thought they were better. I mean,

1683
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: there are times in this game that when things happen,

1684
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, you got to take care of business. But

1685
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 3: when when you're looking at third down and fifteen and

1686
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 3: you're going to play some man because that's what they

1687
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 3: were doing. They were playing a single high safety, which

1688
01:28:55,160 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 3: is a oh, shoot, what's twenty two's name safety? I

1689
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 3: lost Geno Stone. Gino Stone's playing free safety. He's free.

1690
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 3: Everybody else is playing man and man. And when Josh

1691
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 3: Allen came through that line of scrimmage, it was Geno

1692
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 3: Stone who was right there to try to make a

1693
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 3: tackle after about twelve yard run and he missed it

1694
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 3: wind up getting the first down. But you've got a

1695
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: plan for that, you know. My thing is this third

1696
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 3: down and fifteen, and you're gonna play man or zone,

1697
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 3: you know, put some pressure on the quarterback and make

1698
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: him throw the ball quick, get the ball out of

1699
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 3: his hand. He might throw a little quick to the

1700
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 3: pass to the back of check down. Instead of you're

1701
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 3: giving up fifteen, you give up seven, and now they

1702
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: get to punt the ball. But we I don't know, man,

1703
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 3: I just you know, Josh Allen's gonna run the ball.

1704
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 3: He's gonna run the football, and we just can't defend it.

1705
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 3: And that's what makes it tough.

1706
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 10: David.

1707
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 17: You talk about the defensive backs having their back turn

1708
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 17: to the quarterback. There's an old basketball concept they used

1709
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 17: in the football a lot called ball you man, you

1710
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 17: always keep that concept if you never turn your head

1711
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 17: away from the quarterback, you never turn your.

1712
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Way from the never never, never do, never do. And

1713
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I have seen it weekend and week out.

1714
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 3: And who's teaching that? Is that? What the defensive coordinator

1715
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 3: or your defensive back coach teaching that. When you get

1716
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: down in the red zone, you turn your back from

1717
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: the quarterback. You don't know if he's running the ball

1718
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 3: or throwing the ball. Josh Allen's big long touchdown dB

1719
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 3: is running down the field with a receiver he never knows.

1720
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 3: He don't even know that Josh Allen is running until

1721
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 3: it's too late. Come on, guys, you gotta be more aware.

1722
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 3: You have to be more aware of what's going on

1723
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: in the game than what the coach is telling you.

1724
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 3: On the sideline doing a break.

1725
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 17: By David, you're right five yards in. You're playing man

1726
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 17: up right in your face, and then you make the

1727
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 17: quarterback throw it over your head.

1728
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: You don't that's.

1729
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 10: Play a zone.

1730
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 17: You don't stay five yards off your man. You're allowing

1731
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 17: him to make a cut one way or the other.

1732
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 3: Hey, you gotta make It's it's funny, man. You gotta

1733
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 3: make quarterbacks or people throw the ball over your head.

1734
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 3: You get on the goal line, you don't back up.

1735
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: We were told not to back up. You stay on

1736
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 3: the goal line. And if they throw the ball over

1737
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 3: your head, they got to throw it out of bounds.

1738
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 3: But these guys are turning around looking at the receiver,

1739
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 3: or not even looking at the receiver, looking at the quarterback,

1740
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 3: while guys are running trying to get open in a

1741
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 3: small window. And Josh Allen found a couple of them today.

1742
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, check.

1743
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 10: I want to let you know.

1744
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 17: Tight ends in the NFL did not like catching the

1745
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 17: ball over the middle, which some guy number thirty three

1746
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 17: was crushing.

1747
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 10: Right now for a long time.

1748
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: And there were some wide receivers like Webster Slaughter that

1749
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: didn't like running into thirty men.

1750
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 3: Webs of Slaughter. We used to get at it. Man,

1751
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 3: he ran, he ran his mouth too much. Yes, hey,

1752
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call.

1753
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 17: David and Ronnie Lot were premier or safety.

1754
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 3: Well, football has changed today. You know. The receivers can

1755
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 3: go across the middle. They ain't got to worry about

1756
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 3: getting hit. They know they're gonna get the DB's will

1757
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 3: get fined. So these guys aren't afraid to go across

1758
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: the middle because the NFL wants to make it safer

1759
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 3: for the offensive guy. It's not my fault, man that

1760
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 3: you got hit like that, because I'm gonna keep hitting

1761
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 3: you and if my paychecks keep disappearing, there's not too

1762
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 3: much I can do about it. Thank you, brother, We

1763
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 3: appreciate your call. Thanks so much.

1764
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 2: Jan and Mason, all right, appreciate you. Hey, let's look

1765
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 2: at the NFL scoreboard here. David and the Green Bay

1766
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:45,480
Speaker 2: Packers defeated the Chicago Bears today twenty eight to twenty one.

1767
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 2: De Los Angeles rams all over the Arizona Cardinals forty

1768
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 2: five to seventeen. Seahawks go into Atlanta and crush the

1769
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 2: Falcons thirty seven to nine.

1770
01:32:58,800 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 3: That's a scary team.

1771
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 2: Am Darnold with three more touchdowns today the incredible and

1772
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 2: the Titans come back and beat the Cleveland Browns thirty

1773
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 2: one to twenty nine in Cleveland. That hurts and the

1774
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Vikings JJ McCarthy a resurrection here with three touchdown passes

1775
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: thirty one to nothing, shutout of the Washington Commanders in Minneapolis,

1776
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins smoke the Jets thirty four to ten

1777
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 2: in New Jersey, and Tua, not known for being a

1778
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: cold weather quarterback, you know, leads the Dolphins to a

1779
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:46,799
Speaker 2: thirty four to ten victory over the Jets in New Jersey.

1780
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: The New Orleans Saints come back that hurts Wowa Tampa

1781
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers twenty four to twenty in Tampa. In Tampa,

1782
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 2: the Bucks are now seven and six, and the Jacksonville

1783
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Jaguars they're hot, thirty six to nineteen winners at home

1784
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 2: over the Indianapolis Colts. Colts fall to eight and five,

1785
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: the Jags now nine and four.

1786
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: At one time I think the Colts was seven and one. Yes,

1787
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: they're playing how now? And then Dan Jones going with

1788
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 3: the Achilles with.

1789
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 2: An Achilles, Yes, and the Pittsburgh Steelers improved to seven

1790
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: and six. They find a way, man, They find a

1791
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: way with a twenty seven to twenty two victory over

1792
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 2: the Ravens in Baltimore to take over sole.

1793
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 3: Possession in the AFC North.

1794
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: And the Broncos defeat the Raiders in Las Vegas twenty

1795
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: four to seventeen. So those are the updated scores and

1796
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: tonight's game, the Texans who are seven and five at

1797
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs who are six and six.

1798
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 3: Must win for the Chiefs. Come on, Texas, Yes, come

1799
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 3: on Texas. Man. If the Bengals can't get in and

1800
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 3: to the party, we can't allow Kansasity to get there either.

1801
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: And with that, let's take a break. We're live at

1802
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings, the King's Mills location on King Center Drive,

1803
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 2: and you're listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame

1804
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by Rnel Carriers. He's David Folter. This

1805
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: is Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW Welcome back to

1806
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 2: the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by

1807
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 2: Rnell Carriers on seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1808
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 2: He's David Folter. This is Chick Ludwig. We're live at

1809
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: Wings and Rings, King's Mills Location fifty five seventeen King

1810
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 2: Center Drive in Mason. We're here till eight thirty tonight,

1811
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 2: and David, you had quite the entourage here.

1812
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Fulter's vultures tonight got the voters in the house and

1813
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 3: John and lee Anne Reith, long time family, walking out

1814
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 3: the door. There good to have y'all. Here, got my

1815
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 3: little man here working on the I l money already. Beautiful.

1816
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 3: Look look little Braxing, my grandson and your your bride,

1817
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Judy just had just had a birthday. She turned twenty

1818
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 3: five yesterday. Fantastic. And Kayla, Kayla's over there paying the bill.

1819
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 3: Oh you got really nice. You gotta love that. I

1820
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 3: like that.

1821
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 2: And Braxton is the grandson.

1822
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 3: Braxton is my man. Hey, Braxing, what up? Man is he?

1823
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 3: How old is he?

1824
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 4: He?

1825
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 3: Eleven? Even months? I was gonna say a round one.

1826
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 2: He's close, he's looking, he's looking mighty five almost, Yes, beautiful,

1827
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: great stuff. And hey, we've got a caller on the line. Yes,

1828
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 2: Sean in Cedarville. John, what's happening?

1829
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 5: Hey, how you guys doing tonight?

1830
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 2: Dick great man great? How are you?

1831
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 4: Hi?

1832
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 10: David?

1833
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 4: Hi, David?

1834
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 3: How are you doing so? Yess?

1835
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 16: And the Bengals lost today?

1836
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 5: Will somebody call me a doctor?

1837
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: Hey?

1838
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: I put on my Facebook page after the selection show committed.

1839
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 3: You know, the Selection show came down, and I'm there.

1840
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 3: The world is not.

1841
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Coming to an end, but it feels like it because

1842
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: it is the college football playoff. Ar mcgeddon, Yes, Okay,

1843
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Indiana is number one in the nation.

1844
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 3: Who would have ever thought that five or ten years ago.

1845
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: Okay, and then in a twelve team playoff Tulane and

1846
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 2: James Madison or in they're okay. Yes, so this is

1847
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 2: categ this is cataclysmic, but it's going to be incredible.

1848
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 5: In Indiana's case. I think it just goes to show

1849
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 5: how big the shadow of Bobby Knight was cast over

1850
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 5: that university does. All it mattered for the last fifty

1851
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 5: years was i U basketball. But now it's a whole

1852
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 5: new world today.

1853
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 3: Whole new you know it really is.

1854
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti deserves a lot of credit and that that

1855
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 2: is a fantastic football team. I graduated with Archie Griffin

1856
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 2: at Ohio State. Yes, I was not happy last night,

1857
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 2: but you know what, the first thing you learn, David

1858
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Fulcher is a wee laddie.

1859
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 3: You can't win them all. No, you can't win them all.

1860
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1861
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Indiana came to play last night. Yes, there were some

1862
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 2: things about Ohio State that upset me. They were in

1863
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 2: the shadow of the goal line twice and came away

1864
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:44,799
Speaker 2: with no points. The quarterback on a snake to get stopped,

1865
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:50,480
Speaker 2: and then third and one at the nine in completion

1866
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 2: and then a whiff on a field goal that would

1867
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: have tied.

1868
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 5: The Hey, Dave, I don't know how the Craig deadline work,

1869
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 5: but if the coach would be interested in Joe Flacco,

1870
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 5: can there be a deal made there this late in

1871
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:06,799
Speaker 5: the season.

1872
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure that they can do

1873
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 3: trades and throughout the year. You don't have to wait

1874
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 3: until the trade deadline. But I see, I don't I

1875
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 3: don't know if I get rid of Joe Flacco. I

1876
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 3: know Flacco wants to play, but I don't know if

1877
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 3: I get rid of Joe Flacco, because you've got to start.

1878
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 3: You gotta starting quarterback as your backup quarterback. And Joe

1879
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 3: Flacco came in here and we've got to say.

1880
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 5: Four games left and we could pick him back up

1881
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 5: after the end of the season maybe, But defensively today

1882
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 5: for the Bengals, they have showed improvement. But just the

1883
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 5: heads up and Kowell don't get the memo. There's four

1884
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 5: games left and each of the four teams have tied

1885
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 5: in and you guys have to remind me who was

1886
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 5: to cut the touchdown pass versus the Chicago Bears. Was

1887
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 5: that a tie end.

1888
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 2: Yes, it was Church Loveland from the University of Michigan.

1889
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 5: And when it was third and fifteen or whatever it was,

1890
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 5: the prior play they brought the house. I mean they

1891
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 5: pulled the sink and everything, and they got this fact.

1892
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 5: Why didn't they turn right around and do it again?

1893
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 5: They could have smutthered him in the backfield and got

1894
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 5: possession of the ball and maybe a chance to win

1895
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 5: the game.

1896
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 3: You know, man, I don't know. All I know is

1897
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 3: is that some of the play calling. You know. I

1898
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 3: can't question why they did what they did, where it happened,

1899
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 3: what we should have ran. But I do know, man,

1900
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 3: it is very frustrating. As a former player and a

1901
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 3: fan of the Cincinnati Bengals. I love Cincinnati. I watched Cincinnati.

1902
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 3: My kids are growing up in Cincinnati and that this

1903
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 3: is my home and to watch them play the way

1904
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 3: they play sometimes you just got to ask yourself, why,

1905
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 3: why did it happen? What do we call that? But

1906
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 3: that's just part of the game.

1907
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 5: I can show them sentiments with you, because I used

1908
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 5: to look forward to watching you play. I mean, you

1909
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 5: delivered the blow, you know what I'm saying. I mean,

1910
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 5: you didn't really you didn't have to knock the head

1911
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,640
Speaker 5: off the guy, but you did stop him any tracks.

1912
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 5: And you don't see these guys getting them positions that way.

1913
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 4: And I don't know.

1914
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 5: Whose responsibility that it is on defense to cover the

1915
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 5: tide ends. But they talk about complimentary football, Well, I'm

1916
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 5: thinking complimentary within the complimentary meaning the phase, the defensive phase.

1917
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 5: Each player has to compliment each other too in a way.

1918
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 2: John, John, with that, we've got we've got to run.

1919
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 2: We've reached the top of the hour. Break John, and Cedarville,

1920
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 2: we appreciate your face. Thanks so much. Two and a

1921
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 2: half a half hours down, a half hour to go. You're

1922
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 2: listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk

1923
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Speaker 1: post Games Sports Talk.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers on seven hundred WLWN,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: We are live at.

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Speaker 2: Wings and Rings the King's Mills location fifty five seventeen

1943
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Speaker 2: King Center Drive in Mason. This is Chick Ludwig and

1944
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm alongside Bengals legend strong safety David Folcher, and we're

1945
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Speaker 2: breaking down the bengals thirty nine to thirty four loss

1946
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Speaker 2: to the Buffalo Bills.

1947
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Speaker 3: Like a wrecking ball.

1948
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Speaker 2: Mike Mills is are on site engineer and the baton

1949
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Speaker 2: has passed in the Kenwood studios from Joe Waddell to

1950
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Speaker 2: Danny Gleeson. Danny is now our producer to the bottom

1951
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Speaker 2: the hour. We thank Joe for all of his help.

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Speaker 2: We love it here at Wings and Rings, wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers,

1953
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Speaker 2: drink specials. Wings and Rings has it all, and we've

1954
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Speaker 2: only got a half hour to go. David, four games left,

1955
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Speaker 2: three games out the Pittsburgh Steelers. Man, they play the Dolphins.

1956
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Speaker 2: They still got to play the Browns. They still got

1957
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Speaker 2: to play. They got to go to the Detroit to

1958
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Speaker 2: play the Lions. They finish up with the Ravens again.

1959
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Speaker 2: So the Ravens now have the Bengals in Cincinnati next Sunday,

1960
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Speaker 2: then they host the Patriots. Then they go to the

1961
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 2: Packers and go to the Steelers. So the Ravens have

1962
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: a tough road. Ravens have a tough road. All we

1963
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Speaker 2: gotta do is win, win.

1964
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Speaker 3: You know, I know it sounds crazy, but we're only

1965
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 3: going to get one team out of this This versions

1966
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 3: division to go to play, and it's going to be

1967
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 3: the division winner, and it's gonna come down to it

1968
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Speaker 3: could be an eight to nine, an eight nineteen winning

1969
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Speaker 3: the division.

1970
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Speaker 2: Seattle one year, didn't they win the They got to

1971
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowls.

1972
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Speaker 3: What a losing record? Yes, yes, it can't happen. Man,

1973
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 3: It's uh, we just have to We have to take

1974
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 3: care of business. We worry about what other teams do

1975
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 3: and what other people say, but our our jobs are

1976
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 3: to take care of business. And we had a shot today.

1977
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 3: We had a shot to take care of business and

1978
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Speaker 3: got to You gotta have the mind of a fish,

1979
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 3: you know. You get you get hooked, they throw you

1980
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Speaker 3: back in there, catch and release, and you come back

1981
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Speaker 3: and get it again. So this is what we gotta do.

1982
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Speaker 3: What happened today is over, and right now it's Ravens

1983
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:45,839
Speaker 3: week and we got to get ready for the Ravens.

1984
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Speaker 2: There are times, David, when I'm trying to fall asleep

1985
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Speaker 2: at night and I'm thinking of plays that the Bengals make. Okay,

1986
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 2: so I think of Colston Loveland over the middle yep,

1987
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Speaker 2: long touchdown for the Chicago Bears after Joe Flacco leads

1988
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 2: an unbelievable comeback yep in the final minutes.

1989
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Speaker 3: Yep. So I think about that.

1990
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Speaker 2: Remember when Leon Hall after Cedrick Benson scores a touchdown, Yes,

1991
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Speaker 2: seconds to go?

1992
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Speaker 3: Seconds?

1993
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Speaker 2: Leon Hall a pass defense but it pops up in

1994
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,839
Speaker 2: the air. I forget the name of the wide receiver

1995
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 2: from Denver that gets it, runs to the goal line,

1996
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 2: goes across to kill a few more seconds, steps into

1997
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: the end zone, and the Bengals have their heart ripped out.

1998
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, you know, I think we said

1999
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Speaker 3: this earlier, maybe it was on the air. Off the air,

2000
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Speaker 3: how this has been a funny football season. Yeah, players

2001
01:46:55,560 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 3: getting hurt, quarterback coaches changing, things are happening. And you know,

2002
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Speaker 3: the teams that the NFL or people were expecting to

2003
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 3: be on the top or on the bottom, and then

2004
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 3: the teams that are supposed to be on the bottom

2005
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 3: are now on the top. Players are getting hurt. It's

2006
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 3: just a funny football season. There have been years of

2007
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 3: football where players don't get hurt, teams are doing so well,

2008
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, the players that aren't

2009
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 3: getting hurt, the ones you don't think about, they're getting hurt.

2010
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 3: The teams aren't playing well. All of a sudden, you

2011
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 3: got the Denver Broncos. You know, ten games they don't

2012
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 3: won ten. The Jacksonville Jaguars are just one today they're

2013
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: almost a ten wins. And then you got the teams

2014
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 3: that have so much potential, like the Baltimore Ravens and

2015
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:49,759
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals who are only six wins, six and seven,

2016
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 3: five and six wins, And you ask yourself, how how

2017
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 3: does the team that much talent only win so many games?

2018
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Speaker 3: Because I think the parody in the NFL now is

2019
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 3: starting to be more consistently even than it has been

2020
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 3: in the past four and nine. Day would never would

2021
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,480
Speaker 3: have thought the synthe thing was before them.

2022
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Speaker 2: And as far as Joe Flacco is concerned, I hope

2023
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 2: they sign him.

2024
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Speaker 3: It's a backup me too. I would take Joe. I

2025
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 3: would take Joe Flacco any day to be my backup.

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Speaker 3: But I know Joe Flacco wants to play. He wants

2027
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 3: to play now and stay all the time. But knowing

2028
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow goes through a lot of injuries, that

2029
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 3: Flacco could play again, hopefully Joe Burrow doesn't get hurt.

2030
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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, we got two Joels that can play.

2031
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Speaker 3: And if we got those two Joe's on this roster

2032
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Speaker 3: next year and they get a shot even this year,

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Speaker 3: if things go the well it's supposed to be going,

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Speaker 3: this is a very very powerful football team. We're just

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Speaker 3: not showing how powerful we really are.

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Speaker 2: If they would by some miracle, reached the postseason, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to play the Cincinnati bangal.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you I Joe Burrow today. We were

2039
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 3: talking about this at home. Joe Burrow today just he

2040
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 3: brings something out of this team, like, oh, no doubt.

2041
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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that you say, oh man,

2042
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to I'm going to battle with this dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm finna go in the burning house. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: a firefighter who does a tremendous job to help people

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Speaker 3: when those things happen. I know when I go in

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Speaker 3: that house, I got that guy to protect me. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna help me. And that's what Joe Burrow throws out.

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Speaker 2: And I saw the interview with him talking about in

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Speaker 2: the snow, Yes, the offense has they have the advantage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And Tagans said that too, well, no, he did.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow said that. He said that when you running

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Speaker 3: you I know where I'm going offensively, but the defensive

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01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 3: guy don't. So if I can get my foot in

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 3: and keep it right and I can make a cut,

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01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 3: that defensive back slips and fall, I'm wide open. And

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01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 3: Higgins was hide open on one of them, and Joe

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01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 3: overthrew him. Think about that. If Joe doesn't overthrow him,

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Speaker 3: and what does that do. That's at the end of

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Speaker 3: the half. Yes, they go down and kick a field goal,

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Speaker 3: score a touchdown. Buffalo is really in some serious trouble. Yes,

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01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 3: and what do we do? We have to punt the

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Speaker 3: ball away.

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Speaker 2: Just a reminder the fans out there, the postgame sports

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Speaker 3: M and P delivers. You can depend on it. Well.

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Speaker 2: Now, David, let's check today's Postman Law injury report, brought

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Speaker 3: Now, I've always wanted to say that Postman delivers. Postman delivers.

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Speaker 3: I like that. I'm gonna call them up chick and

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Speaker 3: tell them, hey, man full Rock wants to deliver with

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Speaker 3: the Postman.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Who did get injured today?

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Speaker 3: Man? Do we have some injuries today? T Higgins was

2078
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 3: getting bounced around a little bit with concuctive Yes he was,

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01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 3: but he went into the blue tent. Blue Tint said

2080
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 3: he was okay, and they let him come back out

2081
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,520
Speaker 3: and play. But you could see that he had some

2082
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 3: some silliness in him throughout the day.

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01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 2: Aunt Josephoe's side was out with a right shin injury,

2084
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 2: so don't know how severe it is.

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01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 3: I don't think he came back, No, I don't. I

2086
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 3: don't remember see it. I don't remember seeing.

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01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 2: Him because Cedric Johnson was playing in his spot Buffalo man.

2088
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 3: Cedric whiffed on. Can't be wishing Allen, can't be whiffing

2089
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 3: man forty yards. I think that big long run. I

2090
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 3: mean once again, though, when you get to the line

2091
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, you gotta slow your motor. And what I

2092
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 3: mean by slow your motor, man, you you've got to

2093
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 3: slow down, especially on the surface in the tractor where

2094
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 3: it was today wet, snow, slippery. You've got to slow down.

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01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 3: Because that's what Josh Allen did. Soon as that soon

2096
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 3: as the two guys came and the tackle went inside

2097
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 3: and that other guy was scraping and his motor was

2098
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 3: wide open, Josh Allen said, I'm gone, You're not gonna

2099
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: get me, but you gotta slow you motor, slow down,

2100
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 3: make a sure tackle, give yourself in your defense another

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01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:05,879
Speaker 3: chance on the next down.

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Speaker 2: And that's Today's Postman Law Injury Report brought to you

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Speaker 2: Others promise Postman deliver delivers. There we go and now, David,

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Speaker 2: let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today. Brought to

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Speaker 2: over twenty years. When you look at the defensive statistics,

2108
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 2: the lotted the DB's baby are at the top of

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01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 2: that list.

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Speaker 3: And what does that tell you, Well, you know most

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01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 3: of people don't understand. And you've got to have a

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01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 3: good front seven, your d lineman and your linebackers to

2113
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 3: put pressure on the quarterback. When you don't put pressure

2114
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 3: on the quarterback, you leave your dv's out there on

2115
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 3: the island all by themselves. It's hard to cover a

2116
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 3: man when you don't know where he's going, especially in

2117
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 3: the snow. And once again, the DB's they're they're, they're

2118
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 3: they they're the ones that you see them on Sports

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01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 3: Center highlight giving up a big touchdown or missing a tackle.

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01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: But it all starts up front. When you put pressure

2121
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 3: on the quarterback, it makes it easy for the defensive

2122
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 3: backs to cover. If you don't do that, you're gonna

2123
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 3: have issues. And when you look at their DBS for

2124
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 3: the Bengals, they're always making tackles or they're always around

2125
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 3: the football, which tells me that the guys up front

2126
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 3: aren't doing their job.

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Speaker 2: We have Geno Stone with nine combined tackles, seven solo,

2128
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 2: two assists. He had a sack, two tackles for loss,

2129
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 2: a quarterback hit.

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Speaker 3: A good game. He was active. He was very active today.

2131
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Speaker 3: But see, it needs to be consistent. You know, he

2132
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 3: can't show up one week and not show up the

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01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 3: next week. You gotta take pride in that. You know,

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01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 3: when I play a chick. I mean, like I said,

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't think I was the best safety

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01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 3: ever played the game. I know I missed some tackles,

2137
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 3: but there wasn't a whole lot I missed. But I

2138
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 3: took pride in what I did. And when I walk

2139
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 3: off that field, I didn't even have to go and

2140
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 3: ask anybody. I left everything on that field. I gave

2141
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 3: every inswin that I could. And sometimes when you watch

2142
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 3: this defense and certain players, it looks like they're just

2143
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 3: going through the motion and you shouldn't be going through

2144
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 3: the motion. And I may be wrong. But I'm a

2145
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 3: spectator like everybody else that's watching, and if you're just

2146
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 3: going through the motion, you shouldn't be out there.

2147
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: As far as passes, defense, Jordan Battle, Dax Hill, DJ

2148
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 2: Turner and man that forced fumble.

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01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 3: The DJ that was huge, That was huge. That was

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Speaker 3: just absolutely shut. And those are the small things that

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Speaker 3: people don't see. You know, it might give up a

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Speaker 3: catch or it might be holding, but this is the

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Speaker 3: follow up. It's those things that they you know, they

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Speaker 3: did that in Baltimore when the cut the touchdown or

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Speaker 3: had the ball and worked get towards the end zone

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Speaker 3: and he gets Joden Battle knocks it out and the

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Speaker 3: ball comes out when we get the ball back when

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Speaker 3: we go down and score. So those are the things

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Speaker 3: that people don't see. But when they see the obvious

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Speaker 3: stuff where you're holding or you're giving up a touchdown

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Speaker 3: and you missed a tackle, we're gonna talk about those,

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Speaker 3: but they're not going to talk about the plays that

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Speaker 3: are made behind the scenes or whatever it goes on.

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Speaker 3: So that's what happens a lot. Now we've talked a

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Speaker 3: lot about.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's or excuse me, Buffalo's tight ends, increasing the Bengals

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Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty seven yards on eleven catches,

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Speaker 2: thirteen targets. Okay, wow, today the Bengals pass receiving, Yes,

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Speaker 2: they were doubling Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: And you know that's going to happen weekend and week got.

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Speaker 10: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he caught five balls for forty four yards, a

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Speaker 2: long gain of sixteen. That opened the door for t Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Now eleven targets, six receptions, ninety two yards, two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: with a long gain of twenty five and that was

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Speaker 2: a beautiful touchdown catches at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: But Mike Kasicki six targets, six catches, that is a

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Speaker 2: real positive. He's back from from injury and that's that

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Speaker 2: biceps injury.

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Speaker 3: And Kazki is a former Buffalo bill. Okay, Kazki's coming

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Speaker 3: from Buffalo to US last year two years ago, when

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Speaker 3: I thought, yes, he was eland Buffalo, but it was

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Speaker 3: in that in that same in that same conference. And

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Speaker 3: when you watch him, I mean not flashy. I heard

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Speaker 3: the commentator say when he goes out and running routes,

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Speaker 3: it's almost like a big white receiver. Yes, not just

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Speaker 3: the tight end. So my question is there are certain

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Speaker 3: packages that teams play. It's the twelve package, the nine package, whatever.

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Speaker 3: Two tight ends, three tight ends. You know, when you

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Speaker 3: see the Bengals put three tight ends on the field,

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Speaker 3: everybody thinks they're going to run the football. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: run the football, but they throw the football with those

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Speaker 3: three tight ends. And you know what, I myself personally,

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Speaker 3: I understand you want to throw the ball down on

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Speaker 3: the field with Chase Chases. How does Chase get to

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Speaker 3: open so much when he got double triple coverage? It's

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Speaker 3: beyond me. But that tells me that there's other receivers

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Speaker 3: on that team that should be Yoshi. Where was Yoshi today?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if Yosh.

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Speaker 2: Had he caught He caught two balls for seventeen yards,

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Speaker 2: a long gain of eleven.

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Speaker 3: But just think about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what if if I made Bengals tight

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Speaker 2: end like a Noah Fant who caught one ball for

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Speaker 2: fifteen yards, a Tanner Hudson who caught one for eleven.

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Speaker 3: I'm there one.

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Speaker 2: When I become a free agent, I want to go

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Speaker 2: to I want to go to Baltimore or Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I want to go somewhere where the tight end becomes

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Speaker 3: an integral part of what the offense is doing. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we do that every now and then. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why we go away from, you know, smash Mount football,

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Speaker 3: because we got a quarterback that that should throw four

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Speaker 3: hundred and five hundred yard of the game. We got

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Speaker 3: a receiver that's to catch three or four touchdown the

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Speaker 3: game smash Mount football, old school football. Old school football

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Speaker 3: should have happened in the last six minutes of that game,

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Speaker 3: where we're gonna run down your throats and you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to stop us running the football because we are winning.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get trickery. I'm gonna throw what I

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Speaker 3: have to. When I don't have to throw the ball,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna run the ball. And I think sometimes we

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Speaker 3: get away from that because Zach Taylor's offense is about

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Speaker 3: putting points on the board and a quarterback throwing three

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Speaker 3: or four hundred yards and the receiver catching four or

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Speaker 3: five touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: And another guy I'd like to see get more involved.

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Speaker 2: He's back there blocking Drew Sample. He catch the football.

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Speaker 3: He can catch the football. Man Drew Sample can catch

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Speaker 3: the football. Shamase p Ryan can run the football. Third

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Speaker 3: and one, all, third and two, fourth, and one p

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Speaker 3: Ryan is my guy. Yes he is. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: p Ryan delivers the blow. He don't accept the blows.

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Speaker 2: And with that, David, it's always an honor, privilege and

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Speaker 2: pleasure being with you. Yes, sir, and many thanks to

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