1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from dou Wor. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Here again is Larry Menty with ther Saturday Morning show 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Welcome Back. This week, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was grilled 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: in a Los Angeles courtroom about Instagram and charges that 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: it's purposely addictive for children. Rich de Muro from rich 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: on Tech is here to tell us how it went. Hey, Rich, 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: I want to start off with a little bit of 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: a news story. He got Mark Zuckerberg testifying in what 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: is going to be a landmark case out in out 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: in California. There are some groups that are charging him 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: and some of his social media platforms, especially Instagram, of 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: being so addictive that they are harmful to children. Can 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: you tell us what's happened so far? 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the main part about this trial is 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: did Meta willingly try to make their app addictive? Especially 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: for teens? And I think that's what the trial is 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: trying to pinpoint here. You've got this girl who used 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: the app a lot during her youth. Now she's I believe, 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 3: in her twenties, but she was very depressed, very sad, 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: even suicidal. Is that all from the app? That's really 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: what we're trying to figure out here. So Zuckerberg was 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: on the stand yesterday and he said that, you know, 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: those under thirteen are officially barred from using Instagram, but 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: a lot of people lie, and enforcing those rules are 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: very tough. They also asked him about, you know, does 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: Meta try to maximize the amount of time that people 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: spend on their platforms, and he suggested that they don't 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: necessarily try to do that. Then they looked at some 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: internal documents from back in the day that showed they 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: wanted to increase the time that people spent on the apps, 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: and he said that Meta no longer has those goals. 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: So this is going to be a back and forth. 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: But the reality is it really could drive many more 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: similar cases because there are are currently over sixteen hundred 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: similar social addiction social media addiction lawsuits pending, and this 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: one was set a precedent. If they ruled in this woman's. 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Favor, Absolutely, it's something to watch. Let's talk about Google's 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: Gemini AI because I love these videos. I see them 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: all the time on social media and I think, how 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: do you make them? This helps you make them? 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is now we've seen videos, now we 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: got music, and so this is their latest addition to 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: Gemini called Leria three, and this is something that Google 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: has been working on for a while, but now they've 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: built it into Gemini and basically anyone, anyone can make 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: music in seconds with the help of AI. All you 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: have to do is type something in. You can upload 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: a photo or even a video and you'll get a 49 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: custom thirty second track. So, Larry, I uploaded a photo 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: of you, and I said, hey, can you make a 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: little radio stinger for my tech segment here? But Larry, 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but this is quite impressive 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: for being like day one product that people anyone can access. 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can go through it and change it 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: over and over again. Do they all sound like that? 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: If you tried a couple, do they all come out 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: just like exactly like that? 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: No, that one I prompted to be more like a 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: radio kind of jingle. But I did one where I 60 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: uploaded a photo of my hike and it came up 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: with a country Western song. I uploaded another video of 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 3: some other folks that I work with and it came 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: up with this night nice bright jingle. I mean, it's 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: really interesting how it thinks, but it's kind of scary 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: at the same time. Because there are people that spend 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: a lot of time making these things for a living, 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: and the fact that you can just come up with 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: this stuff in seconds is just going to get better. Yeah, 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: it says it's not meant to replace professionals, but it's 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: just more fun if you want to, you know, make 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: something for a friend or family member or whatever. 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: So did you also prompt them to say Larry Mint 73 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: his name once? But do Rick on tech about four times? 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: Did you prop that as well? 75 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: I did not say that, but you know, I guess 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about that part of it, 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: but you know you can, you can tweak it. I guess. 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you so much. Hey, listen, I want 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: to I want to notice that you're going to talk 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: about woofye the AI puppy. Everybody's seen this ad. Everybody's 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: seen this ad, and I've heard so many people that 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: think it's adorable and want to get it. They're held 83 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: back because they think, oh, it looks so much better 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: in the ad that it does in person. What have 85 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: you heard about it? 86 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so I had. This is what I 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: love about my radio show. People email me every day saying, rich, 88 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: you know, here's the latest scam. Here's what I did. 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: I get so many emails, and I love it because 90 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: they often turn into a really good story. So with 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: this person, I actually said. He said he ordered this 92 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: Wuffy robot dog for his grandson. And he said, Rich, 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: you can't believe what this thing looks like. I said, 94 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: I'm coming over, and so I ran over to his 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: place and I looked at this puppy. I'm not kidding, Larry. 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: Do you remember like KB toys back in the day. 97 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: They sure have those little robotic puppies like jumping and 98 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: barking from Yeah, that's what this thing looks like. There's 99 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: nothing special about it. There's no AI, there's no commands. 100 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: The videos on the website are completely bogus. There are 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: so many websites popping up with this Wuffy robotic dog 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: that look amazing. I mean, there's just so many. Just 103 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: stay away. But here's my lesson. There is a great 104 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: website from the Better Business Bureau called scam Tracker BBB 105 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: dot com slash scam tracker. If this guy would have 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: typed Wuffy into that, he would have seen one hundred 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: reports of people who did order this and got completely scammed. 108 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: By this thing. So that's the bookmark today. I am 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: so disappointed. It really does look cool. It looks like 110 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: a real dog in the ad. I wonder if they 111 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: used AI to create the ad and then didn't use 112 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: it in their own product. 113 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: Absolutely, the ads are so cute. You want one of 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: these things. But here's the other thing I noticed that 115 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: they're doing, Larry. They're making YouTube videos every day and 116 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: uploading them to YouTube. So when you search like Wuffy 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: dog or Wuffy Dog review or Wuffy Robot, it's an 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: ad from someone that says like, Hi, I ordered the 119 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: Wuffy Dog and it's amazing. But they never show the 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: dog in the review. And so I'm trying to make 121 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: sure that people realize that this thing is not as 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: advertised and just beat buyer beware. 123 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: Hey are you do you think the TikTok local feed 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: is good? 125 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is my new obsession. I never 126 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: went on TikTok until they introduced this. And what's cool 127 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: about it is that it shows you things near you. 128 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: So I've always loved this idea of local right, local radio, 129 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: local TV, local newspapers, you see what's happening near you. 130 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: With social media, everything has become nationalized, and so I 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: think it's really interesting to see a local feed of restaurants, shopping, 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: travel spots, local creators, and that's what this is doing. 133 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: Now. 134 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: The downside is you have to give TikTok your location, 135 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: and so of course they're collecting more data that they 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 3: can then sell ads against. But I will tell you, Larry, 137 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: I was in Las Vegas over the weekend. I used 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: it there and every other thing I flipped through, I'm like, 139 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: I want to go there, I want to eat that, 140 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: I want to go to that hike. I mean, it's 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: it's really interesting stuff and it's a whole new way 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: of discovering things around you. 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: Good news for all of us. Rich Demiro rich on 144 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: Tech has heard Sunday Nights right here from eight to 145 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: eleven pm on WOR. This has been a podcast from 146 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: WR