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Speaker 3: Guaranteed Human.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean, just push all the tips towards

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Speaker 4: the middle of the table, you know, Man, I love

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Speaker 4: the fact that people care.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: I love the fact that our game is a twelve

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Speaker 4: month game, even in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Is big news in big business.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's just an honor to be a part of something

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: I've grown to enjoy it over the years.

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Speaker 7: That was coach Tomlin sitting down with us in latrob

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Speaker 7: this past August, and that'll be his last Stealers training

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Speaker 7: camp as head coach. So he stepped down yesterday and resigned.

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Speaker 7: And I'm having a hard time with change. I think

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Speaker 7: there needed to be change. I think it's going to

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Speaker 7: be good for everybody. But I'm still this quickly.

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Speaker 8: No, yes, I use your time. Yeah, it's one of

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Speaker 8: those wait days, have to change.

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Speaker 7: We can't keep doing this quit wait no, that's hold on,

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Speaker 9: Did you say something I thought, maybe, much like you,

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Speaker 9: that as much as there was need for change, maybe

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Speaker 9: my first thought is that at first there would be

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Speaker 10: I agree, coordinator would change, the.

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Speaker 9: Quarterback would change like that, There would.

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Speaker 7: Be other changes, but maybe not him. But that might

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Speaker 7: have been the impetus for him saying, you know what,

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Speaker 7: I had enough. He maybe he didn't want to be

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Speaker 7: told who he could hire as a coordinator. Sure you know,

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Speaker 7: or as Jeremy Fowler just said, By the way, that

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Speaker 7: a great bariness to make time for us today. Uh,

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Speaker 7: it might have just been, hey, man, I'm not getting

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Speaker 8: And you know what, when.

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Speaker 7: He's got that carrot dangling of TV money and a

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Speaker 7: much easier lifestyle, I could see that being a little

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Speaker 7: more attractive than working sixty five to seventy hours a

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Speaker 7: week January, February and March. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 7: off season it's a grind, as he just said. But anyways,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna miss coach Tomlin. Ben Roethlisberger spoke to the

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Speaker 7: situation in an Emergency Footballing with Ben Roethlisberger podcast last evening.

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Speaker 11: And he's a gold jacket guy meed Chuck Noll Gold jacket,

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Speaker 11: Bill Cower, gold jacket, Coach Tomlin. I mean that speaks

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Speaker 11: volumes for this organization and three head coaches, three are

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Speaker 11: going to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean

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Speaker 11: these are big shoes to fill. And listen Coach Kyer

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Speaker 11: talking on this show. He had huge shoes to fill

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Speaker 11: fill with coach Kyleer. The next coach is going to

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Speaker 11: have huge shoes to fill. And we we joke about it.

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Speaker 11: You don't want to be the guy that replaces the guy.

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Speaker 11: Tomlin did it. And you know, you can say what

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Speaker 3: That's what you strive for.

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Speaker 11: Obviously, you want you want Lombardes and you want championships,

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Speaker 11: and he brought that and it's been a while since

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Speaker 11: he's had a playoff win. But but what coach Tomlin

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Speaker 11: you know, didn't like exclude himself, lived in the in town.

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Speaker 3: And you know we.

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Speaker 11: He deserves our respect and our praise for what he

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Speaker 8: But thank you, Like let me let me tip the cap.

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Speaker 11: You know, how can you not say thank you to

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 12: Ben later added, I can't wait to see what he

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Speaker 8: It's so funny. I've been just sort of flipped on

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Speaker 12: Like maybe you should take the Penn State job two

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Speaker 12: months ago as a troll move. Yes, and then he's like,

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Speaker 7: I think he and Tomlin always had a push pull relationship,

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Speaker 8: At the minute. He wanted to give him a shot

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Speaker 12: Oh that lives forever now, no, yeah right, he's right, yeah,

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Speaker 12: he's in the bathroom like that's really picking up steam.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, oh boy.

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Speaker 7: Ben on that podcast also said the Stealers should hire

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Speaker 7: an offensive guy. So well, we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 7: Max Stars will join us in a little bit. Ben's

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Speaker 7: former teammate and someone who along with Ben wonder super

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Speaker 8: That'll be nine p. Fifteen and that's only like six

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Speaker 7: But first, Abby, you have some news that it's pretty interesting,

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Speaker 7: I think, speaking of news, news about news.

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Speaker 9: News is Hour brought to you by a better call

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Speaker 9: cy clouds and rain. Today a high of forty six.

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Speaker 9: A new report here from the staffers at CBS. CBS

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Speaker 9: seems to be preparing a new segment called Whiskey Fridays.

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Speaker 9: Recent reports from January suggest that CBS News might be

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Speaker 9: planning a segment called Whiskey Fridays with Tony Dacopple, which

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Speaker 9: says that they are testing bar setups in the newsroom

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Speaker 9: for Tony, who recently took over as.

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Speaker 10: Anchor of the CBS Evening News.

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Speaker 9: So some staff were only first made aware of it

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Speaker 9: as they encountered the testing set, which basically is a

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Speaker 3: The news.

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Speaker 13: Encountered the set featuring a large sponsor banner on the

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Speaker 13: news on the news, my friend for Jack Daniels.

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Speaker 7: That's Provda or whatever the hell.

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Speaker 8: That's uh, everything's for sale kids.

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Speaker 9: And this comes as Tony begins his new role as

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Speaker 9: anchor of the CBS Evening News, with reports noting declining viewership.

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Speaker 7: They since he's taken over, they have lost almost twenty

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Speaker 7: no surprise to you that the person overseeing all of

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Speaker 7: these changes at CBS News, this is Pittsburgh Barry Weiss.

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Speaker 8: She's from She's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, she's from Squirrel Hill.

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Speaker 8: And you knew you grew up with her, right Jacob.

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Speaker 7: Her youngest sister, Yeah, okay, her youngest sisters migrator and

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Speaker 7: I knew her growing up. Okay, Well, so it should

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Speaker 7: be no surprise to you that A Pittsburgh's solution to

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Speaker 8: We drink more, Tony.

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Speaker 12: We're testing really low in the drunk guy demographic.

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Speaker 8: We've got a solution.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no amount of drinking that will not make

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Speaker 7: me think that guy's a douchebag.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 8: I get bad news for you.

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Speaker 7: They're turning it into Bill Maher's Club Random on the

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Speaker 8: It's going to be like stoner Thursdays.

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Speaker 8: Anyways, I think we should take over Greenland.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, things are going great, things are really going great.

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Speaker 10: I think that even like with us, I know that, like.

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Speaker 9: You think you would like to hang out with us drunk,

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Speaker 9: but you wouldn't.

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Speaker 10: You know it's wrong with you, you know it's wrong.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you just gets super racist. Yeah, I'm Greek. So

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Speaker 14: want to wrestle figures Pierce. Yeah, problematic that I was

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Speaker 14: trying to phrase it. The right way is not to uh,

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Speaker 7: But it's great that they're openly thinking of just drinking

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Speaker 10: Yeah, anything but worrying about the news.

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Speaker 7: I always thought it was a terrible idea when Jimmy

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Speaker 9: There are some instances where like this conceptually if wrangled,

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Speaker 9: I think what you're talking about, I'm getting away from

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Speaker 9: the drunk Shakespeare thing. Yeah, I saw one production of that,

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Speaker 8: Shakespeare, Yeah, I mean, that's all you have to do.

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Speaker 7: they like nop Nick super charges. We only have twenty

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Speaker 7: two minutes of news. We gotta get hammered. It's time

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, that would be hilarious if you had to

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Speaker 7: do that, though. It was like, in order to continue

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Speaker 8: Let's go Venezuela. Who wants it.

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Speaker 7: Anyways, We'll be fine. I'm not worried about it going great.

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Speaker 9: Nick Glazer shared on Howard Stern all of the jokes

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Speaker 9: to read your girlfriend's ID. Amy Poehler is here for

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Speaker 9: her podcast Good Hang, which is what Timothy Shalomey says

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you who's mainly, Max Starks, ladies and gentlemen

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Speaker 7: And clearly, with that carrot dangling of NFL broadcasting money

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Speaker 3: Because this man is a leader of men.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, he has made you know,

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Speaker 5: that's that's what he's done, And that's purely a tip

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Speaker 7: He won unchopped with ingredients that he had to get

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Speaker 5: Exactly, he didn't. He didn't get the basket. You know,

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Speaker 7: Max, Thanks as always for joining us and appreciate you

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: Listen, guys, I mean the newest was one of the greatest.

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Speaker 5: If I had man parts, she'd be marble.

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Speaker 8: That is true.

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Speaker 7: That goes right along with we're still squirreling those nuts,

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Speaker 7: Max Starks. Yeah, yeah, part of the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 7: Great job this year with King or the two of

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Speaker 3: Max, Thanks listen, I appreciate it. You know, as always

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Speaker 8: Buddy, take care. Max Stark's with the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 7: Weaing in on Mike Tomlin's end of tenure as head

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Speaker 12: Max sounds a little annoyed with the fans.

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Speaker 7: I didn't want to give I was trying to get

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Speaker 12: Well, I appreciate a player's perspective. You know, he played

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Speaker 3: I think, what does he know?

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Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 7: In this day and age, it is just your unless

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Speaker 8: Like you said, he's got a family, those.

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Speaker 2: And the financial rewards are such that you don't need

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Speaker 3: A lack career.

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Speaker 8: You just hit it, quit out.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, go play golf, man, Except Mike doesn't play golf

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Speaker 2: But he's a football guy.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: He's a football junkie. He loves it.

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Speaker 15: He loves going to training camp, he loves going to

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Speaker 15: the Senior Bowl. He loves to if he does TV,

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Speaker 15: I think it's going to be a very brief foray

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Speaker 2: And I'm still not rolling out he coaches this year.

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Speaker 7: Mike Persuda, when we return, more on Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 7: who will the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers be?

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Speaker 8: Wow, that's weird to say.

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Speaker 2: We don't won't be. Max Stark's Live.

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Speaker 7: Is all right, Mike Persuda on your radio Home of

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Speaker 7: the Steelers DVE. Mike Tomlin steps down after nineteen years

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Speaker 7: as the Steelers head coach And now.

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Speaker 15: What sports is not brought to you by Bridgeville Appliants.

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Speaker 15: You can't tell me life doesn't have a sense of humor.

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Speaker 15: On the same day that Mike Tomlin announces he is

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Speaker 15: resigning as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: The University of Pittsburgh head football.

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Speaker 15: Coach Paton Nor Doucy announced the hiring of a new

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Speaker 15: special teams coordinator Mike Tomlin. The guy's name is Mike Preefer.

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Speaker 15: Mike Prefer used to be the special teams coach of

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Speaker 15: the Cleveland Browns, and at the end of the twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty season, Mike prefer made history by becoming the first

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Speaker 15: active head coach to win a playoff game. It was

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Speaker 15: at Heinzfield when the Browns beat the Steelers. Yeah, Kevin

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Speaker 15: Stefanski had COVID and to pitch credit. In their press release,

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Speaker 15: they didn't mention the win was over the Steelers. They

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Speaker 15: just said, became the first acting head coach to win

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Speaker 15: a playoff game, you know, yeah, yeah, well how about that?

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Speaker 15: And that was maybe Mike Tomins worst loss ever.

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Speaker 8: Yes, agreed.

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Speaker 15: The Browns had no offensive line and they didn't have

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Speaker 15: their head coach.

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Speaker 3: He had COVID. He was watching on TV.

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Speaker 15: Back in Strongsville, Ohio, or wherever the other Kevin Stefanski lived.

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Speaker 7: People would say the Browns loss this year was one

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Speaker 7: of his worst losses ever. Almost people were saying that

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Speaker 7: had they also.

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Speaker 15: Lost to the Ravens, I think it would have been

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Speaker 15: because then you could argue that kept him out of

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Speaker 15: the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: But I'm glad that's not how it went. I'm glad.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad they at least got to get smacked by Houston.

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Speaker 12: Thank god that they didn't lose to the Ravens because

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Speaker 12: then Harbaugh would have done tomlin in.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the other way around. Thinking about that all morning.

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Speaker 12: That would have that would have left a really bad taste.

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Speaker 8: It's a great point.

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Speaker 15: It's kind of like ahab killing the whale before he drowned.

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Speaker 15: When the whales carcass sank to the bottom, right.

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Speaker 8: It'd be like the whale going ah and then choking

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Speaker 8: on something quick quiz.

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Speaker 2: I am glad you know the way that worked out.

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Speaker 15: I mean that Ravens game was one of the great

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Speaker 15: moments in that facility.

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Speaker 2: Hinsfield slash acting.

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Speaker 8: We had a week, didn't we, folks, And we had

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Speaker 8: a week.

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Speaker 15: The vibe and the buzz and the fielding like people

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Speaker 15: believed this team was different after that.

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Speaker 7: That's why sixty seven thousand and chains showed up on

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Speaker 7: Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Turned out it wasn't.

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Speaker 15: And maybe Mike tomlin Chan has channeled his inner Winston

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Speaker 15: Churchill and said if not now when.

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Speaker 7: It was a one point game in the fourth quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: but it's weird to me too. And I was thinking

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Speaker 7: about the fact that he clearly knew he was going

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Speaker 7: to step down when it ended, and not that he

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Speaker 7: didn't put everything into winning that game, but it had

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Speaker 7: to be a very strange sensation for him to know

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Speaker 7: that if they didn't win, he was walking because he

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Speaker 7: clearly knew that before that game. Nothing happened from the

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Speaker 7: end of that game till his meeting with our route

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Speaker 7: the next morning that made him go, you know what

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Speaker 7: I'm done.

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Speaker 2: Certainly had to have thought about it, right.

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Speaker 7: Yes, So as he is walking up and down the

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Speaker 7: sidelines in the fourth quarter, depth this is it.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if he took the field thinking that,

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Speaker 15: or I don't know if he was walking the sidelines

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Speaker 15: thinking he had had to have.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he just came to.

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Speaker 15: The conclusion, Hey, if I'm already thinking about like deal

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Speaker 15: chuck Nole line, if you're thinking about retirement, you're retired.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that might have been it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he just got tired of banging his head against.

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Speaker 7: The wall or telling those guys over and over what

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Speaker 7: to do and then they don't do it. I mean,

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Speaker 7: the defense was constantly in flux. Offensive alignment was always

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Speaker 7: a mess. It's like, is it coaching or is it

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Speaker 7: players who just won't allow themselves to get the message.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I just think just not good enough, good enough

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Speaker 15: to overcome adversity in the regular season and bounce back

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Speaker 15: and fight through the grind of a long schedule and qualify.

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Speaker 15: Then you got to go to Kansas City and you're

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Speaker 15: not good enough, so you gets your ass kicked. You've

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Speaker 15: got to go to Buffalo, so you're not good enough,

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Speaker 15: so he gets your ass kicked.

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Speaker 2: This one was supposed to be different.

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Speaker 15: I had a lot of respect for Houston, particularly the defense,

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Speaker 15: but I didn't think Houston was offensively gifted enough to

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Speaker 15: turn that game into the kind of blowout that the

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Speaker 15: Steelers had experienced repeatedly in the postseason leading up to it.

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Speaker 15: And turns out the Texans offense wasn't good enough, but

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Speaker 15: the defense threw a couple of touchdowns on top of

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Speaker 15: the stink sandwich.

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Speaker 7: Stink sandwich. Those are terrible. It's a fun year, though,

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Speaker 7: Mark Madden doesn't think so. Mark's gonna join us shortly.

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Speaker 7: He is all in on tanking. Yeah, go out and

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Speaker 7: go three fourteen.

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Speaker 8: Who says no, me?

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Speaker 2: I hate that.

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Speaker 8: I need to hate that idea. It's been quite a show.

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Speaker 7: If you missed anything, We've had, Tim Bench, Charlie Batch,

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Speaker 7: Merril Hodge, Rob King, Jeremy Fowler and Max Starks. At

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Speaker 7: this point, you can go back and listen to the

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Speaker 7: show with the DV Morning Show podcast wherever you get

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Speaker 7: your podcasts streaming online.

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Speaker 8: Start to finish the DV Morning Show, Double one.

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Speaker 7: Mark Madden ways in when we come back, and we'll

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Speaker 7: do some of our favorite tomlinisms on the way out.

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Speaker 6: I's forward hands in the ten and two position. Radio cranked. Yep,

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Speaker 6: looks like you're ready to drive.

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Speaker 3: E Rob King here.

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Speaker 8: Staying connected to your Steelers has never been easier. Tune

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Speaker 8: into Steelers Nation Radio on.

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Speaker 7: Home with the Fitforsheelers one of two point five DVE.

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Speaker 7: Our next guest brought to you by Calussy, serving the

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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh area for over one hundred and seven years from

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Speaker 7: our brother station one oh five ninety X Double m

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Speaker 7: Mark Madden, Mark.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, hello again everybody. Mark.

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Speaker 7: What do you think was the impetus for Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 7: saying Enough's enough?

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Speaker 16: I think the debacle of Monday Night made everybody, not

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Speaker 16: at least him, realize, enough's enough. That's the fifth straight

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Speaker 16: playoff loss by double digits. That's the ninth first run.

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Speaker 16: Next in Pittsburgh. We used to make fun of Marty

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Speaker 16: Schoenheimer for something that Mike Tomlin wound up matching. So

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Speaker 16: what made it evident to him? I don't know. I

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Speaker 16: still am not quite sure how much of it was

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Speaker 16: him jumping and how much was him being pushed. But

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Speaker 16: I think even the most diehard Tomlin supporters would have

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Speaker 16: to acknowledge that it was time for his run to

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Speaker 16: come to an end. Actually, Randy, I take that back.

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Speaker 16: They're not acknowledging that we keep getting cold. Well you'll see,

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Speaker 16: You'll see the draft isn't always greener. Mike Greenberg said that,

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Speaker 16: and I tweeted back, Listen, we're not the Jets. All

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Speaker 16: the Steeler's going to do is win one playoff game

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Speaker 16: in the next nine years, and Tomlin's successor will have

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Speaker 16: topped him well.

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Speaker 7: So the scenario is not as set up for success

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Speaker 7: as it was when Mike Tomlin came in, and for

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Speaker 7: that matter, and for that matter, when Bill Tower took

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Speaker 7: the job from Chuck Nole.

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Speaker 16: Uh right, there's no question about that. But that's tough

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Speaker 16: took us. I mean, do you want the job or not.

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Speaker 16: I don't think it's an attractive job. I think people

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Speaker 16: who say Marcus Freeman and Kurt Signetti, why would they

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Speaker 16: want to leave where they're at to come here? Even

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Speaker 16: though Signetti's in the inser and you know, the budget

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Speaker 16: for staff ain't going to be great. The facilities aren't great.

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Speaker 16: Like you said, it's not set up to succeed, and

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Speaker 16: that's the organization's fault. But you got to take some steps,

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Speaker 16: and you've got to move backwards sometimes to go forward.

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Speaker 16: The last time the Steelers finished with the losing record,

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Speaker 16: they drafted Ben Roethlisberger. So I'm not as upset by

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Speaker 16: the possibility of having a few losing seasons, although I'm

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Speaker 16: sure to in our nation it will because for apoplexy.

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Speaker 7: I am appreciative of Mike Tomlin's run here. I liked

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Speaker 7: that we had winning football all those years. I think

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Speaker 7: that it's a big difference to have meaningful football every

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Speaker 7: year in terms of the entertainment factor as a fan,

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Speaker 7: and also acknowledged that the lack of postseason success meant

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Speaker 7: something had to change, and you alluded to this, and

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Speaker 7: I'm wondering if there was possibly the scenario which Charlie

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Speaker 7: Batch thinks that maybe the Rooney's pushed him in a direction.

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Speaker 7: I'm wondering if they said you can stay, but we

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Speaker 7: got to change these coordinators and you have to relinquish

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Speaker 7: some of the control. And that was the straw that

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Speaker 7: broke the camel's back for him.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 16: I threw that out there on my show, and maybe

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Speaker 16: there's something to that, because Randall, it surprised me. He

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Speaker 16: quit Tuesday morning after showing no indication and there off

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Speaker 16: Monday night.

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Speaker 3: If he was hiding it, he hit it.

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Speaker 16: Very well because I just didn't figure. But I'll be blunt.

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Speaker 16: I think this organization and ownership's always been scared the

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Speaker 16: death of Mike Tomlin, and I think to confront him

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Speaker 16: in a manner like Charlie suggests and I suggested too,

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Speaker 16: would have been very uncharacteristic and come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 16: Doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just not the way

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Speaker 16: I would bet.

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Speaker 7: So what do they do now? I mean, some of

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Speaker 7: the names that are being thrown out there are crazy

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Speaker 7: to me. I don't know how Marcus Freeman's name gets

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Speaker 7: thrown on top of the pile.

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Speaker 16: Well, he's not going to take the job, whether whether

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Speaker 16: they want him, whether they should or not, he's not

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Speaker 16: going to take it. It's better off at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 16: Same with like I said Signetti in Indiana. What they

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Speaker 16: need to do is make a clean spreak from their

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Speaker 16: organizational mindset about defense and imposing their will because they

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Speaker 16: had the most expensive defense in football and it was

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Speaker 16: terrible and I didn't see a whole lot of will

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Speaker 16: being imposed on my night. This league is about offense.

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Speaker 16: It's about scoring more and faster, and they need to

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Speaker 16: go in that directional they'll just repeat their mistakes and

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Speaker 16: not do as well as they want. The name I

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Speaker 16: keep coming back to is Clint Kubiak, the offensive coredator

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Speaker 16: at Seattle. I think he's the kind of offensive mind

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Speaker 16: that they need to get. I would hire Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 16: who left the Browns. They're not going to because they're

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Speaker 16: not going to recycle the brons coach. But he's a

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Speaker 16: good offensive mind. Two time NFL Coach of the Year

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Speaker 16: and he was undone in Cleveland by ownership interference. As

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Speaker 16: regards to the Shawn Watson contract though those would be

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Speaker 16: my top two candidates.

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Speaker 3: But they need to do more than that.

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Speaker 16: Ran Well, they need to clear the staff out. They

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Speaker 16: usually don't. They didn't do that when Tomlin came in

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Speaker 16: and replaced Kawer. They need to push as many players

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Speaker 16: out the door as they can. But I mean TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 16: who's going to take on that contract for clearly a

667
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 16: clearly declining player. And I knew that was a terrible,

668
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 16: terrible decision when they gave him that deal. And I'm

669
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 16: always right and nobody should be surprised this time. But yeah,

670
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 16: there's a lot more work to be done besides just

671
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 16: hiring the coach.

672
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 7: Well, this is the problem is they've got some guys

673
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 7: on there that they should probably get rid of. But

674
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 7: the cap, the dead cap, would just kill him.

675
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 16: Well, then you lose for a while. Like I said,

676
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 16: the last time you finished under five hundred, you signed

677
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 16: Ben Roethlisberg. And by the way, just to clear up

678
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 16: what's always been a myth, that streak of no losing

679
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 16: seasons for Tomlin, A that was mostly Ben streak. It

680
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 16: started before Tomlin took over, and Ben did more to

681
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 16: prop it up than Tomlin for sure, and it always

682
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 16: became an artificially low bar to reach that the national

683
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 16: media especially could crow about and say, look at Mike

684
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 16: tom when he's never had a losing season. But then

685
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 16: the negative numbers added up, like all those playoff losses

686
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 16: by double digits, five in a row, and that led

687
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 16: us to his departure.

688
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: How many was Ben quarterback for.

689
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: Most of them?

690
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: The playoff losses?

691
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, no, Ben's not playing less than that either.

692
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 16: I know you think that nothing's wrong with the team, Mike,

693
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 16: but there is.

694
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: I never said nothing's wrong with it. I'm just asking

695
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: a question.

696
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 16: Would you have kept Tomlin? That's the question I'm asking.

697
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 16: I would Yep, you're insane, But everybody's that title of

698
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 16: their opinion.

699
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 8: You're insane. Next, you two are insane? You saying, well,

700
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 8: I just don't.

701
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 16: I just don't see the logic for keeping the guy

702
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 16: that just gets his bears blown off in playoff game

703
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 16: after playoff game. The support you'll see, you'll see what's

704
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 16: gonna happen. And the worst part is the next two

705
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 16: years it'll look like a mistake just based on one loss.

706
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 16: But it's the right move, absolutely the right move.

707
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 7: Well, I think his biggest problem was talent assessment and

708
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 7: his lack of willingness to allow coordinators to have more

709
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 7: independence and bringing guys with a real pedigree.

710
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

711
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 7: It seemed like he was okay with guys who kind

712
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 7: of agreed with his defensive philosophy and a more conservative

713
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 7: offensive approach, and that he was okay with.

714
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 8: And I think he if he were more open.

715
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 7: To having you know, it's I Mike and I disagree

716
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 7: on this. I think his lack of coaching tree is

717
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 7: an indictment.

718
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 8: And that doesn't it.

719
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 16: Doesn't mean everything, but it doesn't mean.

720
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 8: Nothing right, And it doesn't mean I think he was

721
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 8: a bad coach.

722
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 7: I think that that would have really put him over

723
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 7: the top into untouchable territory.

724
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think he was an absolute fraud. I think

725
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 16: he won with Cowers, players, leaders, and culture. And the

726
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 16: further we got away from that, the more that became evident.

727
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 16: Sorry that that's what I think, and that's what the

728
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 16: record show.

729
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 7: Well, yoga became very Correlation is not causation.

730
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 15: Okay, Now do the now do the all time wins?

731
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 15: Not do the division titles? Now do ten and seven

732
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 15: this year?

733
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 16: Now do all I'm so excited by ten and seven.

734
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 16: I'm so excited by the division. Give me a right.

735
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: And all time wins.

736
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 16: Is like comparing caviar and horseman. Or he couldn't carry

737
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 16: Chuck Noll's jock in a hockey equipment.

738
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 8: Bag, would have done with AB.

739
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 16: Better than well, you see, that's a tough one. That's

740
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 16: a tough one because he got a lot statistically on AB.

741
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 16: But it killed the culture and they didn't win anything.

742
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: Games.

743
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

744
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 16: Right, if you're happy with that, Mike, then you'll be

745
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 16: happy with that.

746
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm allowed to be happy. What makes me happy? Thank you?

747
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 16: But of course, of course you are. But but I mean,

748
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 16: it's just I remember when this team was based on

749
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 16: winning super Bowls, when that was the expectation, when that

750
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 16: was the goal, and it didn't become just an empty

751
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 16: slogan they preached with no hope of doing it, like

752
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 16: like they had no chance at the super Bowl for

753
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 16: how many years, none whatsoever beyond getting in the playoffs,

754
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 16: and then they got killed, so it wasn't much of

755
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 16: a chance. I'm sorry, this is one thousand percent the

756
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 16: right move.

757
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody it's not a matter of whether

758
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 7: it's right or not to me like, I think it's

759
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 7: going to be a good change for both people, like

760
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 7: both parties. I think everybody benefits here because something needed

761
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 7: to change. But if I point to one thing that

762
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 7: was Mike Tomlin's downfall, it was drafting Kenny Pickett, no,

763
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 7: no question.

764
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: And I said it.

765
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 16: Then I said, this will set the team back five years.

766
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 16: As it turned out, it's going to be longer. And

767
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 16: Mike confirmer deny he was the only guy in the

768
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 16: building one.

769
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: To do that.

770
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't have that information. Well I do, Okay,

771
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's how it works.

772
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think.

773
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 7: I think that a guy like Kenny Pickett, who they

774
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 7: should have known forward and backward just by proximity, like

775
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 7: they should have had a better read on him than

776
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: they could have had anybody else. But that's my point

777
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 7: is to be that wrong about somebody that you had

778
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 7: that much access to really speaks to their lack of

779
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 7: ability to assess talent correctly. And too often, he thought

780
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 7: he could author these reclamation projects from guys who only

781
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 7: had two or three games left in him.

782
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: Well.

783
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 16: A big problem occurred during the Coward administration when Cowor

784
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 16: won the power struggle with the GM Tom Donaho, and

785
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 16: then it became the coach having final say, and that

786
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 16: needs to change. By the way, the GM needs to

787
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 16: get more input, maybe not final say, maybe final say,

788
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 16: but just you know, at least where the coach doesn't

789
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 16: say this is it period and he gets his way.

790
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 16: But to do that you need a better GM. Oh

791
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 16: Mark Conza being Connor. He's a cap guy.

792
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: He's not a GM.

793
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 7: Mark Mannen brought to you by Calusy serving the Pittsburgh

794
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 7: I just want.

795
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 8: To say I love pursuit.

796
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 16: This is I want to say I love pursuit of

797
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 16: This is just healthy debate.

798
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: And I'm right.

799
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 15: Okay he feels I stay correct and thank you, super genius.

800
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 7: See you Mark, that's Mark. I'm going to miss Coach Tomlin. Also,

801
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 7: I thought there's a need for a change in some regard.

802
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 7: So some of my favorite tomlinisms through the years. There's

803
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 7: a lot, you know, there's lot of many. It's a

804
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 7: lot that I really like. Cut off your eyelids. Love

805
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 7: to cut off your eyelids.

806
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 10: If you're a blinker, cut off your eyelids.

807
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: It's just a pebble in my shoe, Just a.

808
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 8: Pebble in my shoe. Popcorn is popcorn. I never understood

809
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 8: the popcorn one. Made no sense to me.

810
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 7: His explanation for it was that it meant one thing here,

811
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 7: one thing there, I guess because popcorn flies out of

812
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 7: the popcorn maker and lands all over the floor.

813
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 15: Mind always it stays in the same place, like it's

814
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 15: in a bag, and he put the bag in a microwave,

815
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 15: and then popcorn comes out and it's all right there.

816
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 10: Popcorn does go everywhere.

817
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 12: The clerk should recut penny on the floor with pebble

818
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 12: in my shoe.

819
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 8: I like that, Take it out and keep moving.

820
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 7: Big difference between squashing grapes and drinking wine.

821
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 8: It's a good one, very good.

822
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: YEA. When you have.

823
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 7: Red paint, your paint red standard is a standard. Kind

824
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 7: of drove me nut. So I'm not gonna lie to you.

825
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 7: I hated that one from your conturn.

826
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 10: Shall always say it is what it is.

827
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 8: Never say never but never. I'd rather say world and sick.

828
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Thoughtfully, non rhythmic.

829
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 8: That was a big one.

830
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 12: I've tried to embrace that in a lot of forums.

831
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 7: You don't have to elaborate.

832
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 8: I'm a volunteers, not hostages. Always a good one.

833
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 10: I say it all the time.

834
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 8: I do. My windshield is bigger than my rear view mirror.

835
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

836
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 10: But I don't send messages make moves.

837
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 8: That's that's not Steven Seagall. Why not? Both statistics are

838
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 8: for losers.

839
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 16: Like that.

840
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 12: Who do you think he said that to Elis Cannon?

841
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 12: I don't even think he's Is he even around over

842
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 12: there anyway?

843
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 8: Uh?

844
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 7: Football is our game. Our business is winning. It's difficult

845
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 7: to box without sparring another one. Yeh, got to get

846
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 7: comfortable with being uncomfortable.

847
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 10: Do you like that?

848
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 7: The one that came back to bite him in the

849
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 7: ass the most times, though, was we don't live in

850
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 7: our fears.

851
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

852
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 12: That was used as a cudgel to crush Mike Tomlin

853
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 12: after anytime he didn't go for it on four of

854
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 12: the inches, anytime he punted.

855
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, anytime he didn't stick his hand on a burner

856
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 15: on a hot stove.

857
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 8: Like taxi driver.

858
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 7: Heinz Ward has money in my emotional bank account.

859
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 10: Oh yeah.

860
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 8: Do you think the interest is that?

861
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 7: I can give you all the ingredients to the hot dog,

862
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 7: but you might not like it.

863
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 10: You wouldn't really gross stuff in there?

864
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 8: A lot of meat on the growth bone.

865
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 10: I was waiting for you to do it, because if

866
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 10: you weren't going to do it.

867
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 8: I'll love meet on the growth bone.

868
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 12: I can't believe we haven't made a bigger deal about

869
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 12: that one, because that one's good.

870
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, where's the growth bone.

871
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 7: I'm not into making predictions. I'm into making preparations. Leadership's

872
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 7: not about being in charge, about taking charge of those

873
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: in your charge. It's not about what we want to do.

874
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 7: It's about what we're about to do. I'm not into

875
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 7: moral victories. I'm into victories.

876
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 12: Hell yeah, hell yeah.

877
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

878
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 7: We're gonna pursue perfection, knowing full well we won't catch it,

879
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 7: but we're gonna relentlessly chase it.

880
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 8: Oh wow, I'm a big believer. You don't rise to

881
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 8: the occasion, you sink to the level of your training.

882
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 8: Are you okay over there? Are you gonna you need

883
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 8: a fan?

884
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 10: Buy me dinner next time? Before you start this list?

885
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 8: When you win, nobody remembers who got the credit. These

886
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 8: are making me sad.

887
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 10: Brandy, do you need a hug?

888
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna cut off my eyelids and move forward.

889
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 12: You know, the worst or the most defensive tominism was

890
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 12: I don't know who cuts my grass.

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Speaker 17: I'll never let him off the hook for that as

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Speaker 17: a landscaper. That that's when he lost me, the poor

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Speaker 17: guy who cut his grass. That guy had been telling

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Speaker 17: people four years I cut Coach Domalds.

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Speaker 8: I'm not a big bragger. I don't like the brag,

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Speaker 8: but I do.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 12: You know I have the tom on account.

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Speaker 15: Yeah that's ironic because a beew who cut his grass,

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Speaker 15: he just wouldn't pay him.

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Speaker 7: That's well, thanks for the memories, Coach Tomlin, and uh,

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Speaker 7: onward and upward for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well onward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I might be down with it for a while. I

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Speaker 7: guess this means so long Aaron Rodgers, I would assume

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Speaker 7: he's not coming back to play here. He might play somewhere.

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Speaker 7: I ain't gonna be here, Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 12: Seea McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers reunite for one last grab

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Speaker 12: of the brass ring.

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Speaker 8: Mcarthy's not being mentioned at all.

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Speaker 3: Bring the big inser back to Greenfield.

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Speaker 8: He could be the good Bridge guy.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they're gonna have another twenty year head coach.

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Speaker 7: That's just not how the league works now. So that's

917
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Speaker 7: the dumbest idea I ever heard bring them back, like

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Speaker 7: put the basics it, Like, hey, coach, we're bringing you

919
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Speaker 7: here to just restore the foundation. Expectation is simply that,

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Speaker 7: and then we're gonna bounce you in a few years

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Speaker 7: because you're not gonna want to coach anymore anyways. And

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Speaker 7: then we'll get a platform set for the next up

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Speaker 7: and coming Ben Johnson or whoever that might be.

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Speaker 15: How mutually it's all serious is I'm very curious if

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Speaker 15: their mindset is, Okay, we're three for three the last

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Speaker 15: three times we did this, even though it's only you know,

927
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Speaker 15: a seventy year window, let's run it back and do

928
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Speaker 15: it that way, or are they gonna embrace a new

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Speaker 15: model for what they want, Like would they consider a

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Speaker 15: guy who's been a head coach before now, would they

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Speaker 15: consider a college guy? Would they consider something other than

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Speaker 15: the young, up and coming defensive minded.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with you on next guy.

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Speaker 12: You mentioned it in one of your sports updates, Mike,

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Speaker 12: and I think this has been overlooked. You need someone

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Speaker 12: who is not going to be overwhelmed by the job

937
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Speaker 12: right away and like horribly fatigued, someone who loves football

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Speaker 12: in the way that.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: McCarthy fills the bill on that one. We're gonna have

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Speaker 7: coaches meetings at Zano's.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go to Alis.

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Speaker 7: You guys tomorrow never leaves Greenfield. I gonna take a

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Speaker 7: nap and we'll figure it out, all right. We gotta Steelers.

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Speaker 7: Thanks to Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King,

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Speaker 7: Jeremy Fowler, Max Starts, and Mark Madden. We had a

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Speaker 7: full list of Steelers insiders this morning, and if you

949
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Speaker 7: want to catch any that can go back and listen

950
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Speaker 7: to it on the podcast Start to Finish wherever you

951
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Speaker 7: get your podcasts, the EV Morning Show. Michelle's up next

952
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Speaker 7: with the Electric Lunch at noon. Thanks Ted Whistle for

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Speaker 7: hanging out with this this morning. And uh here we

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Speaker 7: go jus Steelers. Thanks Coach T.

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Speaker 8: I'm finished. You stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face.

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Speaker 8: He got him tight Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: O day baby. But now you guys call me Ronald?

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Speaker 10: Would you not eat my pants?

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Speaker 3: Ronald?

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Speaker 8: Oh ma, way google it.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 3: Here's Tom Opperman.

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Speaker 18: For the first time since two thousand and seven, the

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Speaker 18: Pittsburgh Steelers are in the market for a new head coach.

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Speaker 18: Coach Mike Tomlin decided to step down yesterday afternoon after nineteen.

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Speaker 8: Seasons as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 18: By Tomlin leaves behind a legacy that includes a Super

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Speaker 18: Bowl Championship, two AFC Championships, eight AFC North Division titles,

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Speaker 18: thirteen total playoff appearances, and of course.

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Speaker 2: Never having had a losing season. The news comes on the.

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Speaker 18: Heel of the Steelers losing thirty to six to the

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Speaker 18: Texans in the Wild Cut Round Monday night, the team's

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Speaker 18: seventh straight playoff loss, the worse than franchise history. The

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Speaker 18: Steelers will now enter into a coaching market where they

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Speaker 18: will be competing with eight other NFL teams searching for

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Speaker 18: a head coach, including their division rivals Baltimore and Cleveland.

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Speaker 18: As far as what's next for Mike Tomlin, well, that

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Speaker 18: remains to be seen, although it has been reported by

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Speaker 18: ESPNS Adam Scheffer that is expected that he will take

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Speaker 18: a year off from coaching and potentially pursue other ventures

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Speaker 18: like television. Whenever Tomlin decides, the fact remains the Steelers

985
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Speaker 18: will be looking for just the fourth head coach and

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Speaker 18: team history.

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Speaker 8: Since nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 18: And seeing as the previous three are all Super Bowl

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Speaker 18: champions and two of three are already in Kenon with

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Speaker 18: Mike Tomlin surely on his way as the third, eventually,

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Speaker 18: the shoes are going to be pretty big to fill

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Speaker 18: for whoever does get the job. Steelers owner and president

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Speaker 18: Art Rooney will speak to the media today at noon

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Speaker 18: to address coach Tomlin stepping down.

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Speaker 8: I'm Tom Aferman with the Steelers Report. He goes forth,

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Speaker 8: He's got it.

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Speaker 7: That's another legendary play for Pittsburgh, perfectly displays the precision

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Speaker 7: and