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Speaker 1: some basketball. Bearcats headed to Fort Worth to take on TCU.

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Speaker 1: Three game losing skit has certainly changed a bit of

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Speaker 1: the vibe from a seven game winning streak. Let's welcome

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Speaker 1: in Chad Brendle from Bearcat Journal Bearcat Journal dot com.

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Speaker 1: All right, you you brought up a great point on

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Speaker 1: the podcast I've been thinking about all week and in one.

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Speaker 1: Nippert was electric on Saturday night. But a concern. They

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Speaker 1: have clearly closed the talent gap over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years with other Big twelve teams, but as you

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Speaker 1: alluded to so much so the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: their talent has been pretty much on par with the opposition,

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Speaker 1: and yet they've been unable to beat that opposition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been unable to execute. And that's the next step, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you got to get on an equal talent level

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Speaker 2: because you certainly, look you've all had more talent. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's not make any mistakes here when talking about the

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Speaker 2: last three games, you fall was a more talented roster

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Speaker 2: top to bottom. I didn't get that feeling with Arizona

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Speaker 2: on BYU. I felt like Cincinnati was every bit they

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Speaker 2: equal of those two teams. But guess what, those two

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Speaker 2: teams played clean football, you see, did not? I mean, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's as simple as that they played clean

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Speaker 2: football during that seven game winning streak. They weren't turning

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Speaker 2: it over, they were executing in the red zone. Special

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Speaker 2: teams was excellent. Defense was doing the bend but don't break,

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Speaker 2: letting teams get into the red zone, but holding them

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Speaker 2: to field goals. Like they were clean. And the last

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Speaker 2: three weeks they've been pig ten from peanuts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, yeah yeah, So chat, let me ask

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Speaker 3: you this. So, I mean, obviously they start off hot,

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Speaker 3: they've lost three straight. What happens, God forbid, they lose

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Speaker 3: this game. What is the what is the eulogy of

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Speaker 3: the season. Is it a successful season? Is it something

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Speaker 3: think about Sadderfield? Where are we at with that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's it's a disappointment. I think

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Speaker 2: it's missed opportunities. That would be the story of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five is the door was open and you ran

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Speaker 2: into the door like that. That's all I can think

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Speaker 2: chance to put yourself. I don't think they're better than

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Speaker 2: talent wise than Texas Tech. I don't think they're better

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Speaker 2: talent wise than Utah. But you had a chance to

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Speaker 2: play yourself into the conference championship game, even after the

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Speaker 2: Utah lost, You had a chance to put yourself in

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Speaker 2: a position, even if you didn't make it, that you

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Speaker 2: tie for second right and the tie breakers play out

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Speaker 2: however they may, and and you find yourself talking about, look,

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Speaker 2: you know we were right there, like we are. This

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Speaker 2: program is now in position to compete for championships in

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Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, even with three conference losses. You know

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Speaker 2: you're going to be you know, tied for fifth, which

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Speaker 2: is a respectable position. In year three, moving from the

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Speaker 2: American to the Big twelve, you lose. Now you're eighth, ninth,

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Speaker 2: than it does from five. So the vision becomes cloudy.

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Speaker 2: The progress, the steady progress forward, was their progress in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Sure was it enough progress? No? So,

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Speaker 2: you know, we talked about this at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: You don't give them a whole lot of amma, you know,

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Speaker 2: because you had a successful season. You went six and

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Speaker 2: the Scott Badderfield era at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: TCU's got a quarterback in Josh Hoover who can sling it.

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Speaker 2: But it's not just Suber. They've got two excellent wide

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Speaker 2: they have done so. Push the ball downfield to those

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Speaker 2: Very few of those plays have resulted in an incompletion.

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Speaker 2: Hoover's going to test you now, hopefully. Sonny Diyce calls

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Speaker 2: Dave Randa, and David Randa says, yeah, you should probably

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati because Baylor did you see a huge favor in

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Speaker 2: Scott Saderfield says they'll defend TCU in a similar way

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Speaker 2: So maybe that slows down the TCU offense a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but uh, Cincinnati's pass defense against that offense is worry some.

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Speaker 2: Now Hoover will turn it over. The question is does

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Speaker 2: Because they haven't done much of that this year either.

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Speaker 1: All right, I wasn't gonna ask this next question, but

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Speaker 1: then you started talking about TCU being able to get

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna make me ask you about Joe Royer

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Speaker 1: and how in the last four games he has five

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Speaker 1: And I know I'm not the only one, but make it,

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Speaker 1: how does Joe Royer get five catches and limited targets

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just the five catches, it's the targets,

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Speaker 2: Lance and it's yeah, it's every week, We're going to

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Speaker 2: find a way to get Joe the ball, Like we

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Speaker 2: And then you know, one of his two catches was

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Speaker 2: I get it, teams are paying a lot of attention

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Speaker 2: So I'm going back. I'm going to date myself here again.

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to Marvin Lewis I see better than

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Speaker 2: I hear quit telling me we know, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to get the ball to Joe Royer. And then Saturday

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Speaker 2: eleven yards. That can't can't happen, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're on the scene for basketball tonight, so let

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Speaker 1: run and a player I'm intrigued by a Jordi Rodrigue

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Speaker 2: Jalen Celestine's out. So guess what, Jordi, here you go,

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Speaker 2: fan of Jordi Rodriguez, Like, look, I know what the

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Speaker 2: his energy is great. He knows how to play offense,

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Speaker 2: just think upside in terms of what this looks like

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. And Happy Thanksgiving to you guys as well.

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