1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Bench. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Darnell Washington, he's just a big fat freak show with 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: the insur friendly nickname and one viral moment to his credit, 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: that run where nobody could tackle him a couple weeks back. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Make Washington had tackled next year put that girth to 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: good use. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: That's also what she said. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: Uh, Pat Friarmuth and John new Smith are legit tight ends. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Friarmuth and John who should be utilized more and better 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: in that vein with Darnell mount Washington. We love Mount Washington. 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Ditch the friggin' jumbo package. It's twenty twenty five, not 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty three. The Steelers should be able to run 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: the ball effectively out of standard formations. Jalen Warning and 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: Kenneth Gane, Well, they've done okay running back. I'd still 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: use Caleb Johnson, the rookie, a lot more. 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: I'd find out what he got. 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Liverpool gave away a freaking penalty already 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: in the fifth minute. We're gonna be done one, Neil, 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: oh f me running. Let's go to the replay, any hoodles. 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: The Steelers have done good at running, not great good. 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: They abandoned it too much with Warren and gain well, 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: but you want to power running game Johnson six twenty 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: four got power, and I always hear people say he's 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: not good at blitz pickup. Well, then don't use him 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: on passing downs. Use a big back, not the jumbo package. 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: Now on defense, which I am told is trashed by 27 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: James Harrison, how about Trey Essex offensive lineman criticized the defense, 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: but everything he said was right. On defense, blitz Moore, 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: use press coverage more. The defensive becks stink. How much 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: worse could the Steelers pass defense get? Okay, here's the PK. 31 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: I was doing a real good show up until this 32 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: penalty one nil Uh, blitzmore, use press coverage more. The 33 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: defensive becks stink. The Steelers pass defense probably couldn't get 34 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: much worse. Blitzing and using press coverage would make the 35 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: defense more dynamic. Take risks, play the Joey Porter Junior's strength. 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Use Porter's talent properly instead of hiding what others can't do. 37 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: Here's one you won't like, but it's one I love. 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: Make TJ. 39 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Watt line up in different places besides his preferred spot 40 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: at left outside linebacker. If he won't make him. Watch 41 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: tape of Miles Garrett lining up in various locations and 42 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: succeeding because of it. If what still won't bench him, 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: watch performance is in decline. He needs to try different things. 44 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: And here's a key point. He shouldn't be his own boss. 45 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: Nobody on this team should be their own boss. Use 46 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: Malie Harrison Moore, he stuffs the run, he plays down hill. 47 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Harrison would restore balance. And inside backer Queen and Peyton Wilson. 48 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: They are two of a kind. Neither is terrible, but 49 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: neither's that good, and they're both to finesse. And I 50 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: got a list of players who shouldn't see the field 51 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: except on special teams and or in case of emergency, 52 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Chuck Clark, Connor Hayward, Scotty Miller, Ben Squaronic, Darius Slay 53 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: and probably like four or five. More point is, don't 54 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: use players who aren't good enough. Play your better players more. 55 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: You got no choice with this haphazard roster. Like I said, 56 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know ball. If you think that's true, 57 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm not insulted. Just keep losing being doing the same, 58 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: actually not losing, just not winning enough. I mean six 59 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: and five, they're six and five it seems like the 60 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: worst six and five ever because they're not good. 61 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: We know they're not good. 62 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: We know they're going nowhere, but doing the same thing, 63 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: whether it works or not. That is a recent Steelers 64 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: tradition in the same vein as eight seasons without a 65 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: playoff win. What's important is this nine to eight is 66 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: still within reach. Heck, gets even likely, and that's all 67 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: that matters. This is the Mark Man Show of Liverpool 68 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: trail one nil to PSV. I thought Champions League would 69 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: just come out with bells on. Well, still eighty two 70 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: minutes to go. But the problem is there's still eighty 71 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: two minutes to go. That's like that scene from goon 72 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: to You know, those are your teammates fed up. But 73 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: on the bright side, those are your teammates you fed 74 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: up out there? Okay, I need calls, calls on the fifteens. 75 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: What do you think of my suggestions? Which do you 76 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: like the best? Which do you like the least? Do 77 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: I know ball or not? Do they know ball or not? 78 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: In the bottom of the hour, we got Tyler Kennedy. 79 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: You know, I hate to say this, I'm never a 80 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: reactionary and we won the league last year with the 81 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: first year coach arn't a slot and people have been 82 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: talking about is his job in jeopardy? And I don't 83 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: think it should be. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean it's 84 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: early and they just won the league last year. I mean, hey, 85 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: jrgen Kopp had the year off. What the heck in 86 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: that vacation German guy? Uh? 87 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: Okay, we got a bunch of crap calling. 88 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna make this is more territ toy fras 89 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: mark anything. If you want to talk about the Thanksgiving 90 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: sides conversation Tom and I had, you can do that 91 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: now as well. Calls on the fifteen It's all so 92 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: fetch one nine x. There's always a component of any 93 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: nice day. 94 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for making my day. Yeah, what you said? 95 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: The exit one O five nine. Liverpool have nodded at 96 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: one one sovas lie on a rebound. Here's some Steeler 97 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: news I find really interesting. Before we get the calls 98 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 2: on the fifteens, Rogers spoke to the media. Did not 99 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: practice today, is going to practice tomorrow and Friday to 100 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: quote see if I can play on quotes, which means 101 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: there's definitely dot And it seems to me that it's 102 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: considerable and that when Mike Tomlin spoke after the loss 103 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: at Chicago and said Rogers was going to play against 104 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: Buffalo the following Sunday. Tom One was either talking out 105 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: his ass for the sake of optimism, or he and 106 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: Roy are on different pages. It seems to me the 107 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: way things are being said, that the decision. 108 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: Is and was. 109 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: Up to Rogers. Okay, PSB scored again, but offside. 110 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: It looks like let's see the replay. Yep, clearly offside, 111 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: no problem. 112 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: H So Rogers, I mean, oh, when he said that, 113 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: the problem is he hasn't yet taken snaps under center, 114 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: So it seemed to me that that is the biggest 115 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: problem his ability. 116 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: To do that. 117 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: So if you made me guess right now, just based 118 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: on what we heard from Rogers a few moments ago, 119 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: maybe belove that sounded later, I'd guess it's likely he 120 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: doesn't play. But that's all right, you know why, because 121 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: I believe in Mason Rudolph say his name, and he 122 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: appears cats time for calls on the fifteens, nine out 123 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: of ten high school girls say that the concept of 124 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: calls on the fifteen is so fetch. 125 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: Let's go to Mike. Mike, you're all with Mark. 126 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, super genius. I was just wondering if you could 127 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: tell me the thought process of sitting Ben Kimble but 128 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: keeping Hayes and hinding up. 129 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: I didn't really No, no, no, that's that's easy, and 130 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with it. The plan before the season, 131 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: and it went awry with with Brunick because he suffered 132 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: so mightily. But the plan with Kendall and Brunick when 133 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: they made the teams out of the UH camp that 134 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: they would be rested occasionally by way of flowed management. 135 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: So Kendall's not been scratched for bad play or because 136 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: he's playing quote unquote worse than Hayes, Heinen whoever. 137 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: That was just the plan. 138 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: Gotcha, gotcha? Is there is there any possibility think that 139 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: he could be there with bros? Because in the preseason 140 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: that's who he had the connection with him and Avery Hayes, 141 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: those three were. 142 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Kendall's not playing Bros. It looks like is 143 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: so No, I don't think we go by connections in 144 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: training camp twenty games into a season. I don't think 145 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: that's that's ignored. But I don't think it's a major factor. 146 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: But Kendall will be back in there, I would assume 147 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: Friday at Columbus, let's go to Lance. 148 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: Lance. 149 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: You're all with double. 150 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: M hey, super g and I appreciate being on the 151 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 5: fifteen year. But the one idea out of all your 152 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: Steeler ideas that I found the most fetch and that 153 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 5: I think would enable actually all the rest of your 154 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: ideas would be if they allowed. 155 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to call the plays. 156 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: And that actually is the one that's least likely to 157 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: be used. I mean, probably none will be used, but 158 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks just don't call plays. Now, what I'm saying is 159 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: more of an indictment of how bad this offense is, 160 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: how neanderthal, how prehistoric, how everything that was supposed to 161 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: happen hasn't happened, how the three tight ends are mostly invisible, 162 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: and how the wrong one, the big Fats though, seems 163 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: to be the number one guy because he's a novelty, 164 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: And how dk Mechat was brought in to be this 165 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: big money receiver and he's a big money bust. 166 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and maybe and maybe they won't let him call 167 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 5: all the plays the whole game, but maybe in a 168 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: two minute offense, a hurry up situation. 169 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but every quarterback does that to allow him to 170 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: do that wouldn't even be allowing. That would be just 171 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: going with what you know he does and other teams do. 172 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: But the more put it this way, it's fair to say, 173 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: the more input that Rogers has on the offense, I 174 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: think the better. Let's go to Patrick Patrick real quick. 175 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: Today. That's one six six. Hey, I think one of 176 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: the reasons why this team struggles so mightily, and I 177 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: believe you'd agree, is Tomlin won't allow a guy in 178 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: the room smarter than him. Would you agree, Oh? 179 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Uh, well, I mean players like Rogers is smarter than 180 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: tom Win. 181 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: Clearly, I don't know who else is, But but he won't. 182 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: He won't. 183 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: He doesn't want any coach to know more than him. 184 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: He doesn't want any coach to have input. He doesn't 185 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: want to even consider it. Like like you look at 186 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: the guys who' he got rid of Dick Clobo, I 187 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: mean mister Lebo's scheme, the zone blitz. It it become 188 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: predictable and outdated a little bit. But but uh, one 189 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: thing I know for sure is Bruce arians was a 190 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: great offensive coach when tom Win got rid of him. 191 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: And that got proven when uh when uh. 192 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: Ba went to Indian One Coach of the Year twice 193 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: and then went to Tampa and won a Super Bowl. 194 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: After he quote unquote retired. Thank you for call. 195 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: Okay, great calls on the fifteens. Very fetch. No, it's 196 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: so fetch. God, I'm not a teenage girl. I get 197 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: it wrong sometimes. 198 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 199 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm next gonna talk Penguins with Tyler Kennedy Stanley Cup 200 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: Champire on one O five to nine. 201 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 6: Tonight's the Pens go head to head against the Sabers. 202 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: Game time is seven. Our coverage starts at six here 203 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 6: every game and the best coverage right here on your 204 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 6: home of the penns one O five nine. 205 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: The X ho hoo hoo. It's that Tommy year again, 206 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: isn't it? 207 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: Mark Madden? Double m Mark galling like the Mark Madden. 208 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: What do you want? What do you want? Damn it? 209 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: The X at one oh five nine. 210 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Penguins at home tonight, big game against Buffalo, trying to 211 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: avoid a third straight loss. Joining me now to talk 212 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: about it. He won the Stanley Cup with the Penguins 213 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine. You see him on Sports 214 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: Net Pittsburgh. He is Tyler Kennedy t K. Tonight kind 215 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: of feels like a big game in a weird way. 216 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: You don't want to lose three straight at home, but 217 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: Buffalo's the hot hand, having won four out of six, 218 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: four out of five. 219 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: Rather yeah, especially how the last two games have come. 220 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't get the points they wanted, and 221 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a lot harder game 222 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: to win than people expect. I know Buffalo obviously is 223 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the barrel, but they have been 224 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: playing some really good hockey and I think they're four 225 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: and five in the last five games. So they're riding 226 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: a hot streak. And the Penguins better be ready because 227 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: right now I feel like the games are just that 228 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: intensity just steps up just a little bit every time 229 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: you get to those milestones, and right now, once you 230 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: get past Thanksgiving, the games just meet even more. So 231 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: this is a big game for the Pittsburgh Penguins. 232 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: Why isn't Buffalo better? 233 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: TK? 234 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: They have one flo out of five, Like you mentioned, 235 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: they got three real good young defensemen that any team 236 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: would like to have. Just one of Thompson has goals 237 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: in six straight games. Why aren't they better? 238 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: That's a great question. And for how many first round 239 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: picks they have, and for how many good players they 240 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: have for some reason, the chemistry in the room, the leadership, 241 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: they just haven't had as many first rounders. They haven't 242 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: had a guy that can really grab the organization and 243 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: turn around. Like I compare them to the Edmonton Oilers 244 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: before they got McDavid, right, because Edmonton Oilers they always had, 245 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, seven first rounders, They had all that, but 246 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: they could never figure it out. And then they got 247 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: a guy like McDavid that can literally turn an organization around. 248 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: And they just don't have that guy. And yes, Cage 249 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: Thompson is extremely good player, but he is not good 250 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: enough to turn the organization around and get them into 251 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs again. 252 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. 253 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: I mean I thought maybe Dollin on defense could be 254 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: that guy. And he's a great defenseman, He's just not 255 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: that kind of defenseman. 256 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: Uh tk. 257 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: The Penguins needs secondary scoring. How do they ignite that? 258 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: And I'm asking because you were se can Arry's scoring. 259 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one, you know, they call up bros 260 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Or bros. Yeah, and he's a shooter. You know, he 261 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: had a great training camp. He's a guy that I 262 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: think can add to that secondary scoring. I think they're 263 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: missing bras Oh, that hurts them. But the guy they 264 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: called up, he's a guy that thinks shot first. In 265 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: past second, he's always been a guy that has more 266 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: goals than assists, which is kind of rare these days. 267 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: So adding him to the lineup, I think that will 268 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: help a lot. But the injuries are starting to add up, 269 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: and that's what I think is really coming down to 270 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: them not winning as many games because they don't have 271 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: that second. They don't have the bras Oh, they don't 272 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: have Raquel, they don't have Russ. Russ has been when 273 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: he's in, he's been unbelievable, but when he's out, you 274 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: feel him. So I think it's just getting some new guys, 275 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: getting that chemistry within the lineup and seeing guys kind 276 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: of popping and getting points when you need them. This 277 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: is when you need your depth. This is when you 278 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: need your third and fourth line guys to contribute on 279 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: the scoreboard and not just be another line out there. 280 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, when I think of my line was, you know, 281 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: when Sid and Malcolm weren't going, I always felt like 282 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Stall had a big game and he threw up points. 283 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: And those are the kind of lineups that push you 284 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: to the next level. So I'm interested to see how 285 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: the Penguins do, how they get out of this slump, 286 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: because they're gonna need their whole four lines and a 287 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: good goalie to get them going again. You know. 288 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: I agree with all that, and one guy besides bros. 289 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: And he does intrigue me because, like you said, shoot 290 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: first past second. I think sometimes the Penguins don't have 291 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: enough of those tk But Coleiven has been hurt, he's 292 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: back in the lineup. I think he's a good young 293 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: player with offensive talent. He just can't score. Not a 294 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: goal in his career yet. Why do you think that is? 295 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Why can't he get going. 296 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: That? You know, some guys just have a knack for scoring, 297 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: you know. And I think once he gets one, he 298 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: might be a guy that scores in bunches, you know. 299 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: But he needs to get one. He needs to go 300 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: to the net. He needs to get like a greasy goal. 301 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: I feel like he's more of a not a highlight 302 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: real goal guy. But he makes some real good moves 303 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: and gets the shot off and it's it's it's shooting 304 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: from the outside, you know. He's not getting on the 305 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: inside of players, and he's not the biggest guy. He's 306 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: not the he doesn't play a heavy game, and I 307 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: think what will help him get more goals is honestly 308 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: just going to the net and hanging out there and 309 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: just just competing like a little bugger in front of 310 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: the net. When you think of guys like that, like 311 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: you know, the Connor Sheeries, the little guys that again 312 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: they weren't going to pound you, but they were like 313 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: these little water bugs that were all around the net, 314 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: clean up the garbage. And you know, he's got to 315 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: learn to get on the inside, play in front of 316 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: the net instead of being a perimeter player. 317 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: Now Gino has sustained his hot start. 318 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: What's enabled that because he's not out there with great 319 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: wingers five on five, but he's finding a way. He's 320 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: he's been more improvisational maybe than I've ever seen him. 321 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to see. I feel like maybe the 322 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: young guys on the team are helping him have a 323 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: little more energy. But he's playing a smarter game, you know, 324 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: and he's he's distributing the puck, he's getting rid of 325 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: the pocket. You know. I feel like he's got confidence 326 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: and when you know you're coming to an end and 327 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I see this in him, that he's 328 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: enjoying the game more and he's not putting as much breath. 329 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: He's just putting his best game forward every night, you know, 330 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: and he's embracing, you know, the end of his career. 331 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's really propelling him. And obviously 332 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: getting some points is keeping him going. I know he's saying, 333 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: always got one or two more, but you never know, 334 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: you know. And I just think he's got that spark 335 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: back that you know, I haven't seen in a while. 336 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: And that's good to see because a healthy Malkins are 337 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: very successful Malcolm. And another thing that I see is 338 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: he's not playing as much as he did in the 339 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: year before. When you see how Muse is playing his lineup, 340 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: the third and fourth line, most of those guys all 341 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: have over ten minutes, which means guys like Malcolm, guys 342 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: like Sid aren't playing twenty five twenty six. 343 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both averaging under twenty minutes DK. I think that's. 344 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: Great exactly, and that's how you keep those guys fresh 345 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: throughout the end of the year. And I think malcl 346 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: is a guy that really benefits from that. You need 347 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: him the milk. You need him to be fresh. When 348 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: he starts getting tired, he you know, he tries to 349 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: force plays and it just isn't there. And the more 350 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: he does it, the worse he looks. So when he's 351 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: fresh and he's playing lass, you're getting a milk. And 352 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: that's that's hard to stop because he does have the 353 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: skill to still make plays, still scoring the league at 354 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: a high level. 355 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: We're talking to Tyler Kennedy, Stanley Cup champanoh nine. You 356 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: see him now on sports at Pittsburgh tk Uh. Harrison 357 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Brunick went to Wilkes for conditioning after being scratched a 358 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: bunch of games. And I get that he'll play for 359 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: canadat the World Juniors, but he's got to be disheveled 360 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: by all this. I mean, young kids like that. I'm 361 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: not saying going back to juniors would have been the 362 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: right thing, but a kid got to play. 363 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's the paychecks part that he's just excited 364 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: about still from you know, making. 365 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: Oh there's a lot lot to be said for that, 366 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, and. 367 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: Then he gets you know, the big one every two 368 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: weeks here. But I agree, I think it's a very 369 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: interesting plan they have for him, and a young guy 370 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: needs to play. I think, yes, it's great being around 371 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: all those stars, but it doesn't make sense having him 372 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: up here if he's not gonna play in the games 373 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: and see how they handle situations. He's got to get 374 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: time in the game, because there's nothing like experience. No 375 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: matter how much you watch or how much you practice, 376 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing like playing and feeling the speed the strength 377 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: of NHL players. So I'm very interested to see what happens, because, yeah, 378 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna go down for two weeks, come back, sit 379 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: maybe you know, who knows how many games gonna come back. 380 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: I would think you'd come back, Mark, and he would play. 381 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: I would think a handful of games before the World Juniors. 382 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of games, and play a bunch 383 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: of games in World Juniors. And then you know, if 384 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: you if you're this far, like I don't really care 385 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: if you burn a year off his contract and you 386 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: send them back or or you know, do whatever. 387 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: But with the cap going up t K, it's not 388 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: a big financial concern. 389 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: So I agree, because can they send him back after Christmas, Mark, 390 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: after he played in the World Juniors, they can. 391 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: The latest they can send them back is at the 392 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: forty game mark of the NHL season. 393 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Wow, So that that's very close to after the World Juniors. 394 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: So I would think I still think they might send 395 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: them back and burn the year and they screw it 396 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: because you know, when you think of the future, if 397 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: he yes, yes, and I still think they need to 398 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: make it very clear and maybe they have a what 399 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: they're doing, but they're keeping us in the dark. But 400 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: he needs to play, and it doesn't matter where. He 401 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: just needs to play. Because again, if he goes to 402 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: Junior's and he's the guy, he's playing every night, he's 403 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: playing a ton of minutes. Or if he comes up here, 404 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: he needs to play, even if it's fifteen minutes in 405 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: the NHL a night, you still are in that routine 406 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: letting him sit in the stands. It's not worth his development. 407 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's taking a step back when 408 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't play and he's watching. Now. 409 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: That said, Kendall scratched tonight as part of the load 410 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: management plan, and I don't disagree with that. I think 411 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: at eighteen years old, getting the occasional night off just 412 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: to let your body recover that much more, I got 413 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: no problem. 414 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: Well, I just feel like I don't get the load management. 415 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: It's like, guys, she's eighteen. He should be able to 416 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: play year round twenty four seventy's eighteen, you know. And 417 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I know they're like, oh, load man, she's going to 418 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: watch a game this and that. I think the faster 419 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: you learn how to play when you're tired, how to 420 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: take care of your body. I think it's like a day. 421 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: It's it's given him a night off and giving him 422 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: almost like a rest when he shouldn't be resting. I 423 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: think letting him watch is not the right play. If 424 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: they're letting them sit in the stands because he's not 425 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: playing good enough, that's a different story. But if they're 426 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: pulling under the lineup to let him watch the game 427 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: and rest or whatever they want to call it, and reset, 428 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's right. I don't. I think 429 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: you always put the team on the ice that you 430 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: want that's going to help you win, And if it's 431 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: him in the lineup, you put him in the lineup. 432 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: It's it's more than it's more than development. It's now 433 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is a business. We need to 434 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: win games. 435 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I see your point 436 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: in letting them play. But this is about development. Now. 437 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: Whether or not he develops better sitting occasionally or playing 438 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: every night, that's debatable. But this teammate's going to win 439 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: a cup t K. The future got to be developed 440 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: in the best way possible. You got to look on 441 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: for those guys. 442 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: But I think their goal is to make the playoffs, Mark, 443 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I know it's not like if it if 444 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: it's to for development and not make the playoffs, like 445 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: we should start selling guys off like or if it's 446 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: to hey, that make exactly exactly. But you know, if 447 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: it's to make the playoffs and give siden Gino one 448 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: last feel at a playoff experience in Pittsburgh, you know again, 449 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I think you always put the lineup in that you 450 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: think is going to help you win. And I don't know, 451 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I never seen this Mark in my whole career or 452 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: even watching and everything, sitting a guy and saying it's, 453 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: you know, part of the process, you know, I don't know. 454 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I played on a lot of different teams. 455 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: No, no, fair enough. 456 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that that 457 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: that's you know what they're planning. Now, how can the 458 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: Penguins get better in overtime three on three on Saturday, 459 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: I lost to Seattle. 460 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: They did everything but scoring overtime. 461 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: I know they're practicing it, but three on three is 462 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: kind of a difficult thing to. 463 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Practice, isn't it. 464 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because so many people have so it went from 465 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: being like back and forth to guys swinging back, loading up, 466 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: trying to tire out the other team. You're in simple, yes, yeah, 467 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: it went from playing checkers to chess, you know. And 468 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: it's so they're trying to make all these complicated plays 469 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: this and that. The biggest thing is getting guys to 470 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: score more goals, you know, like you need to have 471 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: a guy that can be the guy one on one 472 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: and score and that that's just not happening right now. 473 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: And it's it's one of those things that even in practice, 474 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: it's tough because you're gonna have your top three guys 475 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: against your third line guys that probably won't play in 476 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: the overtime, so they dominate them, you know. So it's 477 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: a tough thing to practice, but it's it's it's so 478 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: weird because, like you said, the coaches have ruined it, 479 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's all about catching guys tired, 480 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: and that's that turns into boring hockey, boring three on three. Uh. 481 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: They say that if you're in the playoffs on Thanksgiving Day, 482 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: that you're seventy seven gonna make it. That makes tonight's 483 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: game even a little bit bigger. I hate to put 484 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: too much stock in that, but the numbers are what 485 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: they say. 486 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they'll make it, Mark, I do think. 487 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: I think they probably will too, in which probably won't 488 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: be great on the big picture, but I think it 489 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: does give Cido and with Tang and Carlson a little 490 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: bit more motivation to play well the rest of the year. 491 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: So I have no problem. 492 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, me neither. 493 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: My big worry is they finish like ninth in the 494 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: conference and don't get a good pick either. 495 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: But I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, you know, 496 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: if they did make the playoffs, this conference is so 497 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: bad that who knows. 498 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's about matchups, and there would 499 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: be some that wouldn't be that unfavorable for. 500 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: Them, especially having guys like Sid Milk and then have 501 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: been in playoffs that are excited to be there. And 502 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: if we get some goaltending, watch out. You know, We're 503 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: one of those teams that you can never take lightly. 504 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: And if I'm another team, I definitely don't want to 505 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: play the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round. With the 506 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: guys we have, I think it really comes down to 507 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: goaltending in defense. If we get those two things, I 508 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: think we can actually do some damn and surprise some 509 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs this year. 510 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: DK has always great stuff. Great seeing you, EJ Fest 511 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. 512 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: All right. Happy Thanksgiving, Mark, enjoy and you TK. 513 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. TK a father again recently, 514 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: so him and Brandy. Lovely couple. I'll compare them to 515 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: EJ and Diane too, just like Sid and Kathy. We 516 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: got Paul's ice at the top of the hour up