1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Human, Welcome back to the show. 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: Thank you. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: Down memory lane we go, why don't you put your 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: pants back on? 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 4: Slappy cop. 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: Copping, copping topping topping? 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: Hell, Yes, how you doing? 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: Nine and nine to noon is in the air and 9 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 5: we begin with a howl all writing out here we go, 10 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: day before Thanksgiving and we start focusing on a really 11 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: really cool game tonight. It's our Minnesota Timberwolves at the 12 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 5: Champion Thunder. And joining us now from OKC as Chris Finch, 13 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Per usual, thanks to second 14 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: Harvest Heartland and two Harvest dot Org, they provide three 15 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: meals for every dollar given. Chris and I deeply believe 16 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 5: in the program, and we hope you take a peek 17 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 5: at the website to Harvest dot Org. Chris joins, now, 18 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: be cool if we feasted on the Thunder this evening. 19 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 5: And by the way, Gilgess, Alexander came up questionable on 20 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 5: the injury report yesterday. 21 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: What do you think is going on there? Chris? 22 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: And good morning, Hey, good morning Pa listed as having 23 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: some illness, so we'll see. We fully expect him to play, 24 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: though he doesn't miss many games, and that's one of 25 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: the great things that you know, we love about him 26 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: in the league as he plays plays every night. 27 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 5: Is is that a procedural thing as the NBA goes like, 28 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: I mean, if he has the sniffles, got to make 29 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 5: him questionable in case he gets worse, then we have 30 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: to scratch him. 31 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: And he wasn't on the injury report. 32 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, there's there's a protocol to it all. And 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: you know it starts the day before I think at 34 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: four o'clock everybody's got to kind of give a status 35 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: update on their roster and then throughout the day on 36 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: game day. You know, this is for transparency purposes and 37 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: and so yeah, it's just it's all part of what's 38 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: normal protocol. 39 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 5: These uh, these thunder do do I mean, I think 40 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 5: we're eighteen to twenty ish into it something like that. 41 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 5: Do they play any differently without Jalen Williams. 42 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean no, not largely the same and they just 43 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: they look they're just another year into their connectivity, their chemistry, 44 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: their their understanding and reading of each other. 45 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 46 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: I do I feel they have a little better ball movement, 47 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: but I don't think that's to do with not having 48 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: Jail in the lineup. I just think that's uh, you know, 49 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: I think Shay's moving the ball a little quicker and 50 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: that's creating even more you know, off shot opportunities for 51 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: his teammates. Uh, you know, because Shaye's obviously facing you know, 52 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: a lot more double teams and multiple defenders, looks h 53 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: And they're doing a really good job. So they're they're 54 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: they're just doing more of the same, but even better. 55 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 56 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: You you mentioned the word connectivity, and and I mean 57 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 5: they from the championship season last year when they beat 58 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 5: the Pacers. They they're pretty much rolling back everybody from 59 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 5: that team, And in all sports, I would imagine it's 60 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: it's key to be able to keep stuff like that 61 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: together year after year, right, Oh for sure. 62 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. 63 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: I Mean, they have a great roster situation here there. 64 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: They're still under the tax. They have a lot of 65 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: players on the similar timeline whose whose new contracts don't 66 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: pick in until I believe next year, and and then 67 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: then they'll face some some financial questions on how they 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: go forward, you know, how deep they want to be 69 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: in the tax and how long they want to stay there. 70 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: And these are things that we all have to deal 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: with as a reality of roster building. But for right 72 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: now they're in a little bit of a purple patch, 73 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: as the British would say, where things are really lined 74 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: up well for them. 75 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 5: And with you guys, Phoenix and Sacramento were there or 76 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: or in your estimation, you know, absorbing it, taking it 77 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 5: in and getting past it. We're what were some common 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 5: threads to the late game defeats? 79 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously execution down the stretch, you know, 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: game management stuff, you know, those those little small pieces 81 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: of the game that are not small at all, but 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: the things you got to do to win the game. 83 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 2: You know, we we listened. We two losses that should 84 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: have been wins. You know, all credit to our opponents 85 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: for making the place to beat us. We didn't make 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: the plays that we needed to make. You know, those 87 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: losses are are are largely on me as well, for 88 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: you know, not handling the end of the games in 89 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: the way that I could have done or should have done. So, 90 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, but there's none less to do but move on. 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: We got, you know, sixty more games to play, sixty 92 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: plus more games to play, and as I said the 93 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: other night, you know, we we got to you can't 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: let one loss become two and I do think we 95 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: fell victim of that a little bit the other night. 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: And that's, you know, certainly not the mindset you need 97 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: to be. 98 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: And as you move. 99 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: Forward, So Chris Bench, coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves Weekly 100 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: nine to noon courtesy of Second Harvest Heartland and the 101 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 5: two Harvested dot Org and man Anthony Edwards has taken 102 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: the scoring to a new level at least the last couple. 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 3: What's the raid with his game of late? 104 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: And I mean what I'm enjoying about his game of 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: late has been really efficient. You know, he's shut the 106 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: ball well as three point volume is back up where 107 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: it was last year. He's getting to the rim, getting 108 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: to the free throw line, he's doing a lot of 109 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: those things. Well, you know, we got to continue to 110 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: find ways to get them cleaner looks at times with 111 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: all the double teams he's facing, and you know he's 112 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: but he's in a little bit of a kind of 113 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: a vein right now, which is good to see. I mean, 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: he went through a couple of games I know where 115 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: he was frustrated his three didn't. 116 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: Fall for him. 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: But as we said at the time, it was always 118 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: ever going to be a blip and he usually responds 119 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: to those moments with. 120 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 5: Big numbers as as as a coach with a high, 121 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 5: high end superstar like that in close games, say against Phoenix, 122 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 5: maybe more so against Sacramento, how do you balance this 123 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 5: is the best guy on the team, which subsequently probably 124 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: gives us the best one on one chance to win 125 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 5: as opposed to ball movement when he does get double teams. 126 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know it's we did get a 127 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: little dagging him down the stretch in both games. But 128 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: you know, he's a guy that we want the ball 129 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: in his hands and from that we're gonna create good offense. 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: I mean, he's surprisingly of all these high end superstars 131 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: in the league. Like his shot percentage basically the number 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: of times he actually takes a shot and those situations 133 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: is a. 134 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: Lot lower than some guys. 135 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: Then that is a result of all the double teams 136 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: that he does face. So we got to make him 137 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: pay when when people double. 138 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: Hey, do you guys do anything as a team for 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: Thanksgiving or do you kind of scatter before the Celtics 140 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: game on Friday? 141 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Well, we're head home tonight, so we'll be able to 142 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: everyone will be able to spend Thanksgiving with their family, 143 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: and which is great. You know, we're back in town 144 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: for a couple of days for the weekend and play 145 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: a big, big, back to back doubleheader coming up, so's 146 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: it'll be nice to be in town for the holidays. 147 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: Are there are there any recommendations or any mandates on 148 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: amounts of food people can eat day before a game 149 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: that includes coaches as much as you want enjoyed it. 150 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: You want enjoy it and give thanks. And and your 151 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 5: your Eagles host the Bears Friday, I have and that's 152 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 5: before your Celtics game. Have you warmed up to Black 153 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: Friday football? Because I know you love the NFL? 154 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I didn't really realize they were playing on 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: Friday until somebody said it yesterday. So Friday we'll have 156 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: practice in the morning and then be able to enjoy 157 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: enjoy some football. Then got a big game Ohio State 158 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Michigan on Saturday. So it's really good. Good weekend of 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: sports as it always is. 160 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 5: And your your media relations con do it. And dear 161 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 5: friend Aaron Freeman, big Bears fam Chris Finch, big Eagles fan, 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: How's how's how's that relationship working out right now? 163 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, we have a great relationship, but We'll see how 164 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: it ends up on Friday into Saturday, so but fully 165 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: expect to bounce back. Win by the birds, yeah and 166 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: uh and also won by the bike Yeah. 167 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 5: Winter Winter of Free as an Aaron Freeman has a 168 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: little bleep talking to him And I didn't realize that 169 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: until his bears beat my vikings and I had to 170 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 5: look at like six texts and then finally was like, 171 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: holy col Winter a free We got to slow down 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 5: with this stuff. But his squad's doing great and hopefully 173 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: yours does tonight. Let me let me ask you this. Uh, 174 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: do Hartenstein and Holme Grin play together a bunch? And 175 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 5: like overall, how do they compliment each other? 176 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, they're a great duo, you know. It's they are 177 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: both really skilled, hard and signs an unbelievable passer, is 178 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: a great feel for the game, can make tricky shots 179 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: around the rim. Excellent defender, you know, as we know 180 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Check can really he can really protect the rim on 181 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: defense as well, So they have great interchangeability there defensively 182 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: then offensively with Check, you know he's gonna stretch the floor. 183 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: He's he's the guy's gonna put traditional centers under pressure 184 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: with his skill set. And you know, they do a 185 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: great job of playing together. Gives them unbelievable size at 186 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: the rim, but also they create problems at the other 187 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: end of the floor. So it's a it's almost a 188 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: perfect pairing. Uh, in many ways. 189 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: This tonight, Chris, this is an NBA Cup game, right 190 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: it is. 191 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: It's the final NBA Cup game. So still alive and 192 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: well in the Cup. With a win tonight, I believe 193 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: we clinched going through, but I'm not showing that. But 194 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: I do feel like I haven't done the mathematic tiebreakers, 195 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: but I think it gives us a great chance to 196 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: go through for that win. 197 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 5: I laughed because I tried to this morning, and it's 198 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 5: like Minnesota lost Sacramento, this Minnesota win point differential that. So, so, 199 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: do you guys need to win tonight to keep the 200 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: the NBA Cup dream alive? 201 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah? Well the the. 202 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 5: Half what what do the players get if they win 203 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 5: the It's a half million, right. 204 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the what it is. Honestly, I 205 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: thought it was more towards a million, but I'm not. 206 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 5: Sure that and that I mean that of course matters 207 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: to two players. I'm in locker rooms, and of course 208 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: you only monitor one locker room. But you know what 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,479 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean that they they they circle their wagons, 210 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 5: you know, around things like this, right. 211 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's been a great product for the league. 212 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: You know, creates early season interest, it gives you know, 213 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: it's just a platform for for them to be able 214 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: to promote the game and and link up with the 215 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: media partner to do so. Got you know, guys have 216 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: taken taken to it in the league. They understand that 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: they feel that little extra motivation. They're almost all like 218 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: do or die games, which you don't play many of 219 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: those in the league, even though you know at the 220 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: end of the day they kind of all are, don't 221 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: They don't all have that feeling. 222 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: Have you. 223 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 5: Have you seen some of the scores in these NBA 224 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,479 Speaker 5: Cup games only cow just astronomically high. 225 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, points differential matters, So when you have a 226 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: chance to pour it on, you're pouring it on. I 227 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: think that's the one thing that's a little different. You know, 228 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: having coached in Europe for a long time, and you'll 229 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: play like two leged affairs like a home and away 230 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: and then points differential matters at the end of it. 231 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: Of those types of different tournament settings that they have overseas. Uh, 232 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: you know, that's just part of the equation. But for 233 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: here in American sports, we don't really stress that. It's 234 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: not something that we kind of build our competition around. 235 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: So it is an odd dynamic. It feels a little unnatural, 236 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: unsportsmanlike even at times. But you know, when you're up 237 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: thirty five, thirty six points and you got to keep 238 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: going for it because you're just gonna you never know 239 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: when to tiebreaker situation, what it's going to cut down to. 240 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 5: Dude, dude, I mean coaches and players just kind of 241 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: have to handle that, right. I mean, you got a 242 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: little more than a half million a stake per player, 243 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: And you know, I shared this example yesterday. It was 244 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 5: recently with the Orlando Magic. They're killing somebody. Man, they're 245 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: by like seventeen nineteen with a minute to go, and 246 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 5: Suggs hits a three and then the other team goes 247 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: the other way and Franz Wagner blocks the shot, like 248 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: up twenty one. I'm like, are you kidding me with this? 249 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, in some way, isn't that how you 250 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: want it to be played all the time? But yeah, 251 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: you know it's it's professional sports. Like if you don't 252 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: want to be beat by thirty five, don't be beat 253 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: by thirty five. You know, it's I'm not here to 254 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: protect each other's feelings, so it's never bothered me no 255 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: matter what the competition is, if you're not if you 256 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: don't wanna, if you don't want to get your butt 257 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: but whipped like that, and then do things to prevent it. 258 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: All right, lastly too, and then happy Thanksgiving with tonight. 259 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 5: What's what's key with go Bear's game this evening? 260 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was, you know he's his defense against 261 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: the two bigs, of course, you know, just they're just 262 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: countering obviously what they're doing. We'll have to play some 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: on the perimeter, you know, being early in his help 264 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: to try to bother shay. Uh, you know, Chase one 265 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: of the best attackers in the league as we know, 266 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: and he gets kind of gets wherever he wants to 267 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: go past the first line of defense pretty seamlessly. So 268 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: just presenting himself there, and I think, uh, you know, 269 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: smart offense spacing is huge against these guys. They generate 270 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: a ton of turnovers. They will really you know, be 271 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: big at the rim. So Rudy kind of reading space 272 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: around that was going to be also big. 273 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: And lastly, what about Jalen Clark? What are you thinking 274 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: of him lately? I noticed I didn't I didn't get 275 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: a chance to see a lot of the Sacramento game, 276 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 5: but but I noticed his minutes were cut a little bit. 277 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got TJ back, so we're trying 278 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: to work him into the lineup. Jalen's fine. There is 279 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: a big part of what we're gonna do. You know, 280 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: we said from the beginning that these young guys, the 281 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: situation that they're in this year, their roles will be 282 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: consistently inconsistent. 283 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: And we're gonna. 284 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: We're in a discovery face. Sometimes you've got to go 285 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: through these periods where you got to figure out what 286 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: you got, who can do what you got to give 287 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: him extended games to do it, and you know, sometimes 288 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: they're gonna play more minutes than others, and you know, 289 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: sometimes that might be the right decision, and sometimes I 290 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: might not be the right decision, but it is what 291 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: it is. And at the end of the end of 292 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: the day, we're trying to get them all seasoned up 293 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: so they can help us over a long season into 294 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 295 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving my brother and I'll call you next week. 296 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: Hi. You two have a good one. 297 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 5: Thanks see you. But that's we definitely give thanks for. 298 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: Chris Finch, coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves, joins nine to 299 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 5: noon weekly vein opening just quite forthright and frontal with 300 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: the way he describes things, and we appreciate the relationship 301 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: and collaboration we have with Chris Finch, head coach of 302 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Part of the timber Tech What's on 303 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: deck set list. Hey, we have a talkback marathon segment 304 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: about an hour from now, and here's the deal. Get 305 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: to the free iHeart Audio app and give thanks or 306 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: give the gizzard for local teams, players, scenarios. 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So give thanks 311 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: for what's good in your sports world, or deliver the 312 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: gross gizzard for what's working on your last nerve talkbacks 313 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: around ten twenty around the Corner Michael Russo Russo Hockey 314 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: on the Red Hot Wild taking on the Blackhawks on 315 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: KFA in this evening Nordo produces, and I'm Paul Allen. 316 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 5: You're listening to nine to noon on FM one hundred 317 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 5: point three KFA N nine to noon. 318 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: Once you're handed. 319 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: He played it on vice. 320 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: Joe Hanson carries it right side, Joe Hanson, Hippoly Hill 321 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 4: coming favor, took a shot. 322 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: Pis calls. 323 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: Rock Faber ripped it under the crossbards a shorthanded goal 324 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: in the Wild of a two nothing later Minnesota Wild 325 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 5: and these airwaves this evening taking on the Chicago Blackhawks, 326 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 5: and nobody better to discuss it than Michael Russo with 327 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 5: the Athletic and the Athletic dot Com at Russo Hockey vax. 328 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 5: If you would like to follow it nine to noon, 329 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: does please do? And Wild and Blackhawks this evening from 330 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: the Windy City. Five in a row, seven of the 331 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 5: last eight for the squad like nine to one and 332 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: one in the last eleven. So, Michael, for sure, they're hot. 333 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 5: But to your trained eye, truly, how good is it 334 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: for the Wild right now? 335 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: In good morning? Good morning? I mean it's been great. 336 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: They are defending impeccably, they're getting outstanding goaltending from both 337 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: their guys Gustafson and Volstad, and and they're getting timely goals. 338 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: So you know, the other night against Winnipeg was just 339 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: a precision like game. They got great goaltending in the 340 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: first period and I thought controlled really the majority of 341 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: the game from that point on. And that's been really 342 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: the sign here for the last little bit. They were 343 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: outstanding in Pittsburgh Penguins like they left their their legs 344 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 4: in Sweden. It was their first game back from the 345 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 4: Global Series. But really this entire month has been an 346 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: absolute switch of the you know, flip of the switch 347 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 4: in every every facet of their game. Expected goals, uh, 348 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: you know, goal saved above expected. They are just every 349 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: metric right now is just a completely completely different team 350 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: than the one that we saw in October. And mostly 351 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: they're playing with the lead. They've they've scored first in 352 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: twelve straight games. This is an organization that in the 353 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 4: month of October trailed more than more than all Like, uh, 354 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: I think it was the only Boston that trailed more 355 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: than them in the entire month of October. And here 356 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: they are in in this month and they just never 357 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: seem to trail so It's been an absolute, you know, 358 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: shocking turn of events here. 359 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 5: How significant, How big is having Zach Bogosian back. I mean, 360 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: he he had some beast to him in Winnipeg. 361 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was, He was good. He added some physicality, 362 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: you know, definitely rusty in the game in Pittsburgh and 363 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: and much much better in Winnipeg on I think, And 364 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: that's the element that he brings to this lineup and 365 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: why they won him in the lineup. You know, I 366 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 4: thought David Hunt came in and did a really good job, 367 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 4: you know, filling in. He had a couple of rough 368 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: games his last two, and Zach came back at a 369 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: perfect time, and he's added some physicality to this lineup. 370 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: But I think the biggest thing that's really changed is 371 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: just the overall play from their top four blue liners. 372 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: I mean, Spursion has been unreal, hasn't been scored on 373 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 4: at five and five in the last one hundred and 374 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: seventy five minutes. Favor is playing just tremendous hockey right now. 375 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: Middleton's been great, Brodean's been much much better, and you know, 376 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: and guys like Boyam just continue to get better. So 377 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: their overall blue line right now you know, I think 378 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: that they're getting probably overshadowed just because Volstad and Gustison 379 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: have been really the story of the league. But the 380 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 4: blue line has been tremendous. 381 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 5: Now, after they beat the Jets, did they play down 382 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 5: beating Winnipeg for the first time in two plus years? 383 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: I mean that that. I mean, it just doesn't ever happen. 384 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: That was big. Yeah, it was. 385 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: Big, and you know what, I was impressed a like, 386 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 4: I know, you know, Jets fans were pointing out that 387 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 4: the Wild didn't you know that the Jets didn't have 388 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: Connry Hellibuck in the lineup, but the Wild didn't have 389 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: four injured players, including two of their top three centers 390 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: in Hartman and Rossi. So you know, it was a 391 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: heck of a win in a building that hasn't been 392 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: kind to them. Obviously, a long way to go in 393 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: this season. Winnipeg hasn't been nearly as good lately, and 394 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: obviously not having Hellibuck in the lineup is starting to 395 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: hurt them. But look, you can only play, you know, 396 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: that's the thing. I mean, how many times has Winnipeg 397 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: played the Wild in the last three years and they 398 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: haven't had crease off in the lineup, or Arabsinek in 399 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 4: the lineup, or their goalies in the lineup, or Middleton 400 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: or Spursion. It's been over and over again when the 401 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: Wild go into these division games completely shorthanded. And here 402 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: they were technically again with four missing players, and they 403 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: went out there and you know, in my mind dominated 404 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: the game. So you know, did they play it down? 405 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: I think that they that The one thing right now 406 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: with this team is that they're very confident in themselves. 407 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 4: They had a lot of time to talk about that 408 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: game after they got stuck in Winnipeg for about eight 409 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: hours after the game, I because of a problem that 410 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: they're playing, and didn't get home till three am from 411 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: an afternoon game. But you know, right now they're they're 412 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: in Chicago and looking forward to tonight's game. 413 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 6: If you're if you're looking at little morsels or clues 414 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 6: or hints, mister Russo, can it be games like that? 415 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 6: From the standpoint that, I mean, you know, as much 416 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 6: as you follow this team in this league, I mean, 417 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: what's what's a broken record? Been been the last couple 418 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 6: of seasons. They'll beat on the bad teams and then 419 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: they're always losing to the Dallas squads, the Vegas squads, 420 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: the Avs of course, mattin Ay on Friday, looking forward 421 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 6: to that in Winnipeg and nearly two years, as we 422 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 6: talked about, like if you're looking for signs in terms 423 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: of steps forward for the state of hockey, beating these 424 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 6: teams means so much in the grand scheme. 425 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and they are. They've been in a stretch of 426 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: beating really good teams. Have They beat Vegas, they beat Carolina, 427 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: they beat Anaheim, and obviously the other night against Winnipeg. 428 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 4: So look, I mean Colorado, they want to look past 429 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: Chicago tonight here here in Chicago. But but the Colorado 430 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: game is obviously going to be a big test. That 431 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 4: team is rocking and rolling there. They've won nine in 432 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 4: a row. But but you're right, I mean, how many 433 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: times in the last couple of years have we said 434 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: that every time in the Wild played Dallas or Winnipeg 435 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: or Colorado, that they are really genuine, genuine generally any 436 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 4: playoff team north of them in the standings they just 437 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: don't play well against them, or at least don't have 438 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: the two points at the end of the night. So 439 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: you're right, I mean, the fact that they're beating these 440 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: teams right now. It says a lot. The fact that 441 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: they're defending is as well as they've been. You know, 442 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: it's just ridiculous the number of shutouts that they've already 443 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: had here, especially in the last little stretch here for 444 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 4: the last seven games. So they are just playing a 445 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: terrific hockey right now. 446 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 6: You mentioned, you know, at the store of the league 447 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 6: might be Gus Boss in Volstad. How difficult can it 448 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: be when and Gus it's almost like by way of competition, 449 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 6: Gus Buss after a tough October has been terrific this 450 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: last month or several weeks as well, So that's awesome 451 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 6: this tandem. How difficult is it for Hines to manage 452 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 6: two heaters between the pipes on a game by game basis. 453 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: I don't think it's difficult at all. He just I 454 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 4: think he feels confident every throws in there. I mean, 455 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: look tonight, if in Chicago, this could be the fourth 456 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: time this season of the five shutouts. So we see 457 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: the goalie that got the shutout the game before doesn't 458 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: start the next game. When does that ever happen? In 459 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: the NHL, in a superstitious league, he usually always start 460 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 4: the goalie that got the shutout the night before. But 461 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: Hines has almost set the precedent now where he's willing 462 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: to do this and rotate these two and as long 463 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: as they're both playing well, I think that's the way 464 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: to manage it. Especially in such a condensed season. One 465 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: of these two goalies will be in the Olympics, so 466 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: Gus has a lot of great you know a lot 467 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: of games ahead of him. So I think it's huge 468 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: for him if he could, you know, get rest at times, 469 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 4: and in a league where everybody's getting hurt, play them 470 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: both if they're both willing to you know, continue to 471 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: if they're both able to continue to win games. And 472 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: what I like about Gus's attitude is he basically says 473 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: it that the competition that jesspervalstad Is is providing him 474 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 4: is putting him in a position where he knows if 475 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: he doesn't play well, he's not going to get the net. 476 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 4: So I think that's great, healthy internal competition. And right now, 477 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 4: both these goalies have been delivering a big time. 478 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: I mean, they're absolutely in a roundabout way making each 479 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 5: other better. I mean even casuals can figure that out. 480 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 5: From afar, it's it's kind of like the hold my 481 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 5: beer situation right. 482 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and and you know we're seeing that. I mean, 483 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: you know, I remember the game in Pittsburgh. You know, 484 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: when I announced that Gusson was starting that game, you know, 485 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 4: fans were freaking out why Hines would change it. And 486 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: and then guss goes out there and gets a shutout himself. 487 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: And obviously he wasn't tested a ton because as we mentioned, 488 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 4: the team is defending really well. But then Volstadt follows 489 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: up that shut out but going out and shutting out Winnipeg. 490 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 4: So it's it's just been tremendous to watch, you know. 491 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: And and now the entire team is playing well. You know, 492 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: Zucurello hasn't had hasn't been in the lineup for a 493 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: regulation loss. And since he's been back, Caprisoff is playing 494 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 4: absolutely his best hockey this season. Same thing with Boldie 495 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: that Eric'sinek Johansson. Boldie line continues to every single night 496 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: shut down the opposing stars of other teams. They'll have 497 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: a big task tonight, obviously on the road against Connor Bedard, 498 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: who has been tremendous this season. But right now this 499 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: team is you know, they're getting incredible play from Felino 500 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 4: and Trenion right now. So they are just really this 501 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: is as good as we've seen them play in a 502 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: long long time. 503 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 6: How's the how's the kid doing? How's year off coming along? 504 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 6: I mean there kind of some conversation to that game 505 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 6: where he got to play on the first line with 506 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 6: the big timers. But but how is he doing? I 507 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 6: think six points in his eighteen games. 508 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's doing great, Nordo. You know, he's been on 509 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 4: the top line line for the last three games. He's 510 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: chipped in a couple of goals. Although the goals the 511 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: other night was he played with it. You know, it 512 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: was a partial change for Caprice and Zukerl hadn't gotten 513 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: on the ice yet, so he was with his old 514 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: two line mates and Trenyon and Felino and training and 515 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 4: set him up for the goal. But you know what 516 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: I love about the kid is he doesn't change his game. 517 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: He's so solid and dependable on the on the on 518 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: the you know, defensive side of the park. He competes 519 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 4: his butt off his board battles continue to get better. 520 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: I think he's just going to be a really, really 521 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: good hockey player. I still don't know how how simple 522 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 4: points will come to him. It's obviously going to depend 523 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: on where he winds up eventually landing full time in 524 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: the lineup. But right now, I mean, if you have 525 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 4: him as a middle sixth center on this team long 526 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: term in the in the future, I think that's going 527 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: to be a heck of a win for the Wild 528 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: with that draft pick. And so I just continue to 529 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 4: be impressed with what this kid brings. He speaks very 530 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: little English, yet he's mature above his his years, and 531 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 4: I just can't wait to watch him mature over the 532 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: next two or three years and just see him as 533 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: he gets more comfortable in this country off the ice 534 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: what that helps in terms of on the ice. His 535 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: kids lived in a hotel now for three months a 536 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: bench basically, and still has not been told they can 537 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: go get an apartment. At some point, I think his 538 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: agent's going to probably have to step in and tell 539 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 4: Bill Garin, you know, there is a time limit that 540 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 4: you could keep a guy in a hotel. At some 541 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: point they're gonna have to let him, let him move 542 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: out of the out of uh. I don't want to 543 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: say where he's staying out of his hotel. 544 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean you know, living in a hotel 545 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 5: for for that long and having somebody else playing your 546 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: room and do your sheets every single day. 547 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: I mean that's I'm giving thanks for. 548 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: That, but you know what, like yeah, but you know 549 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: what he's not getting, Like I'll just give the brand 550 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: of hotel. I was trying to explain to him the 551 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: other day what Marriott points are and he doesn't have 552 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: a Marriott number. I mean, just think of the number 553 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: of free nights you would have this offseason if he 554 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: just during the during the Olympics you go off to 555 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: the you know some to Hawaii for two weeks and 556 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: have Marriott paid for his room. But right now he 557 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: doesn't have a Marriott number. 558 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: You could share some points. 559 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: You could do it retroactively. You'll get a Marriott number 560 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: and give it to the hotel and get points man. 561 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 5: Or you could share some points with him for all 562 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: the great did bits he gives you thanksgiving gesture. 563 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: No, let's not, let's not go too far brusso radio. 564 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 5: What's U If there's a common thread, you'll unveil it. 565 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 5: But what's leading to all of these shorties? 566 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: Well, I mean their penalty kill has been just outstanding 567 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: here the last month of the Season's shocking to say 568 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: that for this organization that has really struggled on that 569 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: department for a while. But I think a lot of 570 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: it is the fact that there's just been one a 571 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: lot more aggressive. But it put you're adding skill guys 572 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: to this lineup. I mean, obviously Rossi's hurt right now, 573 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 4: but Rossi's been on the penalty kill this year. Boldie's 574 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: been on the penalty kill this year. And I just 575 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: think when you have really good offensive players, like a 576 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: lot of teams have done for a long time in 577 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: the league, and the Wild have never seemed to do. 578 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: I think that they just generally anticipate plays that opposing 579 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: really good players are going to make. And a perfect 580 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: example is Boldie's first career shorthanded goal the other night 581 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: against Carolina. He anticipated that path by a great player 582 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: in Sebastianajo, picks it off and scores the breakaway goal. 583 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: We saw a favor the other night. They cod an 584 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: incredibly good defensive player in his own zone to spur 585 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: that odd man rush and then he joins the fray 586 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: and scores the big goal. So I think that's part 587 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: of it is that they've been more aggressive. I think 588 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: they they're using you know, more skilled players in that area, 589 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: and right now they just are completely on the same 590 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: page and they're getting they're getting saves too. I mean, 591 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: I know that we're making a big deal because they've 592 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: got a couple shorthanded goals in the last three games, 593 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: but most importantly their penalty kills having around ninety percent 594 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 4: this month, and it's just, you know, it's just a 595 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: perfect example of how every single thing about this team 596 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: has flipped completely upside down from what we saw in October. 597 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 4: It looked like this team was going to, you know, 598 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: wind up with a lottery pick. Now they're they've they've 599 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: climbed up to the tenth best points percentage in the 600 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: National Hockey League going into tonight's game in Chicago, Time. 601 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: For two more Heinz. 602 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 5: He told us yesterday, ericson K is playing at his 603 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: high highest level of the season. I mean, he really 604 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: really threw some flowers his way. What are you seeing 605 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 5: with ericson K. 606 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just been unbelievable. You look at the the 607 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: analytics of what he is doing to the opposing top 608 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: players the team every single night. It's truly remarkable. The 609 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: way he's shutting down every single game the top line 610 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: of the other thing. And it's not just him, Boldy 611 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 4: and Johansson are part of that. He's winning key draws. 612 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: Now he leaves the league in face off wins and 613 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: face off faceoffs taken. So that's huge too, is that 614 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: you know he's he's they're starting with the puck and 615 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: when you're obviously in the offensive zone, that's the best 616 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 4: way to defend the top line. So he's been just tremendous. 617 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you ask any any the amount of respect 618 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 4: he's hated by opposing players, but it's because of how 619 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: much they respect him they hate going up against them. 620 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 4: It's the way the way opposing players talk about Eric 621 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: Sanak is the way they used to talk to me 622 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: about Nko Koivu. Nobody likes to go up against him. 623 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: He's just an absolute competitor on the ice. And you know, 624 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: from a work ethics standpoint, there's a few guys in 625 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: the league that work harder than Eric Sinak. So he 626 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: has just been playing elite elite hockey lately. 627 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 6: Non non wild specific question. But they are in Chicago tonight, 628 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 6: so I'm sure you saw the news and followed it 629 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 6: loosely Mason West Blackhawks draft pick winning a football state 630 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 6: title with a Dina. 631 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm just curious. 632 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, into the draft, first round pick, 633 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 6: you know, the the idea of him letting teams know like, hey, 634 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 6: I want to play football and finish this out with 635 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 6: my guys before I transition to every day I'm at 636 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 6: the rink. 637 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: I mean, just the time you've spent covering the sport. 638 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 6: Like, how unique is that moment where teams kind of 639 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 6: got to loosen the reins or maybe that alters the 640 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 6: way that they view a prospect when choosing in the draft. 641 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 6: Just kind of Mason West and and you know, the 642 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 6: black hole giving him that leeway to go play football 643 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 6: before he he puts the puck on on front of brain. 644 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he Well, first of all, he's just tremendous kid, 645 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: a tremendous athlete obviously, you know, and he's about to 646 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 4: go play junior hockey and and look, the one reason 647 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: why he probably was drafted at the end of the 648 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: first round is that teams were not comfortable with him 649 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: playing another football season and trying to capture his dreams 650 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: of leading a Dinast to a state title in football, 651 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: which he achieved remarkably and now you know he still 652 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: is is making it very clear that that hockey is 653 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: his future. But it will be interesting if he if 654 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: he makes it big for the black Hawks, there are 655 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of teams regretting letting that slip. 656 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: And it was all because of a dinosaur mentality where 657 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: they just were all concerned that he wanted, that he 658 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: was caring too much about football or or you know, 659 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: worried about injuries or something like that. And and you know, 660 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: the Blackhawks where he took a gamble at the end 661 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: of the first round, took him and and they might 662 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: wind up being the team that that that really you know, 663 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: it's gonna be thanking their lucky star as they did that. 664 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: So I'm happy for the kid. I got to talk 665 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 4: to him a couple of weeks ago from my Josh 666 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 4: Harding story because Josh coaches him at a Dinah Josh 667 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: Ashley even though he's a goalie, he changes the forwards 668 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: there and coaches the forward. So Mason was, you know, 669 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: outstanding talking to me for that feature I wrote on Herds. 670 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 4: And I'm really excited for the kid because he seems 671 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: like just an absolutely awesome kid with a with a 672 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 4: real bright future in the sport of hockey, which I'm 673 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 4: excited excited about that he's switching over to the sport 674 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 4: full time. 675 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 5: Have a great Thanksgiving Michael, safe travels. Enjoy the game tonight. 676 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Man. 677 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: We appreciate you. 678 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: You two guys. 679 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: See you, Bud Russo Happy Radio. That is Michael Russo 680 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 5: out of Russo Hockey, the Athletic and the Athletic dot 681 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 5: Com go wild taking on Connor Bedard and one day 682 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 5: Mason West and the Chicago Blackhawks. 683 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 3: Seven thirty puck drop f M one hundred point three. 684 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 5: K f am back to OKC to chat about this 685 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 5: life changer tonight against the Thunder for the hol and 686 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 5: Alan Horton, who calls games on radio but also does 687 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 5: the simulcast radio and TV. 688 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: I will talk to the Vox after this. 689 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 5: Fuck Alan Horton that Wolves radio via X follow him 690 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 5: if you are so inclined. He'll be on the microphone 691 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 5: or microphone zah this evening for the Wolves and OKC. 692 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: Alan. 693 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 5: It's Paul Allen with Nordo by my side. How have 694 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 5: you been, Vox, I have been good. 695 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: It's good to catch up with you guys. It's been 696 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: a minute. 697 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 5: Likewise, and radio or TV and radio tonight, what's the play? 698 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: It is radio only tonight, as ESPN is in the 699 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: house and they've got the exclusive tonight, so there's no 700 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: fan duel Sports network, uh television cast and so it's uh, 701 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: it's k fan all. 702 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: The way tonight. 703 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 5: Is Is this your first season? Is this the first 704 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 5: time you've done a simulcast? 705 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: Yes? 706 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 7: How because we only did the one one TV game 707 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 7: last year and you did you did the radio for 708 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 7: that one, and then uh, yeah, everything happened so late 709 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 7: in the season and it was difficult to figure out 710 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 7: what Michael Grady was doing with his national stuff, and 711 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 7: so by the time we got to media day, that's 712 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 7: that's really when we kind of hammered things out. And 713 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 7: it was so late in the season that they kind 714 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 7: of decided to go the route of of doing the 715 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 7: simulcast and putting me and Jim Peterson on on both 716 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: airways TV and radio. 717 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: So as a play by play guy, how do you 718 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: balance it for the TV watchers along with the radio listeners. 719 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's it's a TV broadcast, it's being 720 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 7: simulcast on radio. I have I have not really tried 721 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 7: to thread that needle because it's it's almost impossible to do. 722 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 7: It's why the NBA went away from some cast back 723 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 7: in the you know, I was in Seattle. I actually 724 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 7: got hired in Seattle with the Sonics and Storm because 725 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 7: Kevin Collabor, who was the fine broadcast for the Sonics 726 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 7: at the time now he's the Trailblazer's TV voice. He 727 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 7: was the last one to do a simulcast and the league, 728 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 7: you know, really wanted to separate the two because you 729 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 7: really can't serve both mediums. And so when he moved 730 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 7: to TV, that opened up an opportunity on radio. I 731 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 7: wasn't to play by play voice, but I came in 732 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 7: and ran the network and got my opportunity for one 733 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 7: year in Seattle before moving to Minnesota. So you know 734 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 7: that that I'm a big fan of opening things up 735 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 7: and giving people opportunities. And we'll see how it goes 736 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 7: going forward. You know, who knows if there might be 737 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 7: a change going next season. 738 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 5: Cal soder Quiz still runs radio, right, It sure does 739 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 5: if if you want to tease him. Because I've done 740 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 5: Viking's preseason games in simulcast form for about, yeah, about 741 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 5: thirteen to fifteen years and I know what you're talking 742 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 5: about when it's like, you know, you got one person 743 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 5: in your ear about over describing, another person in your 744 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 5: ear about underdescribing and stuff like that. So once you 745 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 5: get past that, you probably are if you want to 746 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 5: start teasing like Calus Soderquist, you know, he'll mention to 747 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 5: you something about description or lack thereof, and then you 748 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: just go Randall Edwards, Oh and. 749 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: The rout radio people being going like what happened? 750 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened there? What side of the floor are 751 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: we on? 752 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: What? 753 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: Who passed to who? What was the ball movements? 754 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 7: It's definitely different, and those two mediums have grown further 755 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 7: away I think through time, and so it's uh, but 756 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 7: it is definitely a first and foremost a TV broadcast. 757 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 7: That's that's your biggest audience. That's you know, that's where 758 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 7: that's where your bread gets buttered. I mean, that's let's 759 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 7: let's face it. TV money is the is the is 760 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 7: the driving force in sports, and so the TV broadcast 761 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 7: has to come first, unfortunately at the expense sometimes of 762 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 7: the radio. 763 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 5: When when when doing T Wolve's TV, Uh, do you 764 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 5: guys get better seats than if calling it just for radio? 765 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: We do. 766 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: Generally, we do. 767 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 7: Where it's been nice to sit you know, second row, 768 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 7: sometimes sometimes front row and have a have a better 769 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 7: seat for the broadcast, you do run into more interference 770 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 7: with all the players checking in. You know, back in 771 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 7: the day when we grew up watching the NBA PA, 772 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 7: it was you know, all those guys who used to 773 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 7: squat down to the scores table. They were they were 774 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 7: very considerate and they would, you know, not block your view. 775 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 7: Now it's like a wall of humanity. When three guys 776 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 7: are checking in from one team, three guys from the 777 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 7: other team. There's a bunch of ball boys there that 778 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 7: are collecting jerseys and stuff. The coaches are up, the 779 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 7: referees are up, and so sometimes even though you've got 780 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 7: a great seat, you're completely boxed out, which is the 781 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 7: reason why on national TV games you'll see that the 782 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 7: broadcast team is that the other they're on the other 783 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 7: side of the floor, so they're not obstructed with all 784 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 7: those kind of things. 785 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: They get a much cleaner view. 786 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 5: I And it's it's interesting you mentioned that because like 787 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna deliver a stray of kindness 788 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 5: the way of Karl Anthony Towns. I was watching the 789 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 5: Nicks and the Nets the other night, and H and 790 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 5: I was watching the New York Feed, the YES Feed 791 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 5: with Mike Breen and Clyde and Walt Clyde, wal Fraser, 792 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 5: the Glide. Clyde the Glyde and Karl Anthony Towns took 793 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 5: a bad spill and then he left and he was okay. 794 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 5: So he came back and they're calling the game and 795 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 5: Cat's standing right in front of him, and then Glide 796 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 5: like jokes about it or mentioned something, and Carl turned 797 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 5: around and looked and almost was like, oh, I'm sorry, 798 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 5: my bad, and he went down to a knee. 799 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 800 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's uh yeah, some of the guys still do it. 801 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 7: And I think when you see when you see someone 802 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 7: of the caliber of Walt Clyde Fraser, you're just a 803 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 7: cat knows the history, he grew up in New Jersey, 804 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 7: he knows what Clyde meant to the Knicks, and you know, 805 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 7: and you can't miss him too, because he's usually wearing 806 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 7: something pretty outrageous as far as his jacket and suit combination. 807 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: He's he's always. 808 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 7: Sharply dressed, but you always know he's there, not just 809 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 7: because he's almost, you know, a seven foot of there box. 810 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 5: What do you think about tonight? SGA has come up questionable? 811 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 5: It's an illness FINCHI joined fifty minutes ago. He fully 812 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 5: expects Gildus Alexander to play. 813 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, probably, I mean you have to assume that he is. 814 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 7: This this team's an absolute jugger not He does not 815 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 7: look like they're hungover at all from last year's title run. 816 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 7: They're so dialed in. I mean, they've put that in 817 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 7: the past and they look just as determined as ever. 818 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 7: They haven't even played Jalen Williams yet, and so they 819 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 7: have they are deep. You know, we knew this was 820 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 7: going to happen. I think next year is the year 821 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 7: you'll see them have to cut some of their come 822 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 7: of their guys. 823 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if. 824 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 7: Alex Caruso is still on this team. Isaiah Hartenstein, those 825 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 7: guys get really expensive next season when when chet Holmger's 826 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 7: contract check kicks in, so does Jalen Williams, then they 827 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 7: become you know that they've got to rely more on 828 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 7: their young guys. But the problem there is that they 829 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 7: have so many draft picks, and they draft so well, 830 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 7: and they've got so much of young guys that they 831 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 7: might be able to just plug and play some of 832 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 7: these guys. So it's an absolute uphill battle. It's you know, 833 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 7: it's but the Wolves did come in here. First off, 834 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 7: they beat us thunder twice in the regular season last year, 835 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 7: and one of them was an incredible twenty four point 836 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 7: comeback in the fourth quarter. So it's possible, and the 837 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 7: Wolves have done it. And so you know, there haven't 838 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 7: been too many road trips in which the Wolves that 839 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 7: have gotten swept. You have to go back three years 840 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 7: to see the last time the Wolves lost all three 841 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 7: games on a road trip of at least three games. 842 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 7: And so I think you're gonna see a much better 843 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 7: effort after what happened in Phoenix and in Sacramento tonight. 844 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's that's where I was going to go 845 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 6: with it, Alan, I mean, it's it's absolutely a massive 846 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 6: step up in class. But this feels also like the 847 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 6: perfect opportunity for this thing to come together and in 848 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 6: somewhere some ways wash away the meltdowns that you saw 849 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 6: the previous two nights, right, Yeah, And. 850 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 7: I think they've got to find they've got to find 851 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 7: a rhythm. It can't just be Ant scoring forty plus 852 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 7: points or Julius right there behind. 853 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: It's got to be. 854 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 7: It's got to be a team concept. It's got to 855 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 7: be a rhythm, a flow. You know, the Wolves offenses, 856 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 7: you know, while their defense has been on the rise 857 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 7: over the last seven eight games, their offense has gone 858 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 7: the other way after it was really good to start 859 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 7: the season. And I think down the stretch, you know, 860 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 7: you've got to The game gets sped up, the crowd 861 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 7: is going crazy, and you know, everything that could go 862 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 7: wrong has gone wrong for the Wolves the last two 863 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 7: games down the stretch, and it's easy to see why 864 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 7: when you're in that you're in that space, you're in 865 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 7: that arena, and like I said, the crowd is going crazy, 866 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 7: the game gets sped up. You're trying to do the 867 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 7: simple things, but everything becomes difficult and then it just 868 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 7: kind of snowballs from there. I just I just think 869 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 7: the Wolves have to be you have to be calm, 870 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 7: cool and collected. And now it's easier said than done, 871 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 7: but this team knows how. 872 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 2: To do it. 873 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 7: They've got some they've got the pieces to do it, 874 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 7: and it just they've got to. 875 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: Put it all together. 876 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 7: It's got to be more of a rhythm, because I 877 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 7: do feel like while Anthony Edwards has put up big numbers, 878 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 7: things have gotten out of think in the fourth quarter. 879 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 7: You've got to involve teammates. 880 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: It's got to be. 881 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 6: More of a balance with with Julius Randal and it's 882 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 6: tough coming off those two losses and you're mentioning the 883 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 6: rhythm and such. But with Julius, I know the statistical 884 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 6: apex may have been his second or third season with 885 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 6: the Knicks, but you got to watch it up close 886 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 6: and personal a year ago and now seeing it now, 887 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 6: there's just something different about Julius in totality. Thus far, 888 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 6: I think he's playing some of the best basketball of 889 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 6: his career. 890 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 3: What have you noticed? 891 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, you can argue, look at the shooting numbers. I mean, 892 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 7: he's putting up career high numbers in field goal percentage 893 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 7: and well the three point numbers have dipped a little 894 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 7: bit last few games, he's still shooting it better than ever. 895 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 7: And so while I think two or three years ago 896 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 7: he averaged twenty five point one with New York, he's 897 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 7: at twenty four to two. Maybe cutting into tonight, but 898 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 7: I'd argue he's been better this year than that. Year 899 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 7: because he's got those shoot he's got on less shot 900 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 7: attempts too. He's taking about sixteen game instead of nineteen games. 901 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 7: So he's been super efficient. And his bullyball style that 902 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 7: we saw in the postseason last year has just it's 903 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 7: just trans played this year. And his shooting touch inside 904 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,399 Speaker 7: is fantastic, and so it's been a really good start 905 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 7: to the season for him. 906 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 5: Alan Horton radio and sometimes TV play by play voice 907 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 5: for the Minnesota Timberwolves, Fuck Wolves and OKC this evening. 908 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 3: OKSE has one loss this year. Now. They blew a 909 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: twenty two point lead to. 910 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 5: The Blazers a few weeks ago, and that's it. And 911 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 5: of the game is it's six point thirty this evening. 912 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: It's an NBA Cup game. Why from your standpoint, why 913 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 5: do the Wolves keep getting so sloppy in the late 914 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 5: stages of these recent losses. 915 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 2: You know, I just think it's a little bit of 916 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: a mental fatigue down the stretch. Pa. It's just like 917 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: I said, the. 918 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 7: Game gets sped up, and you've got to be at 919 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 7: your sharpest and at your best in those moments, and 920 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 7: you can't get away, you know, with little things, not 921 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 7: boxing out, making sure of a pass before you throw it. 922 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 7: It just it's it's the Wolves that just have not 923 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 7: been sharp in those moments, and the turnovers have really 924 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 7: been I think one of the biggest problems. They've got 925 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 7: the highest turnover rate and clutch time of any team 926 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 7: in the league. I mean, they're turning over fourteen times 927 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 7: now and you know, in a very small sample size 928 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 7: and only six clutch time games. So they're just those 929 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 7: those decisions have to be sharper in the game's biggest 930 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 7: moments because that feels everything, and a turnover is so much. 931 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 7: You know, you don't even get a shot at the rim, 932 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 7: so you don't even give yourself a chance to score. 933 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 7: You're just giving the opportunity to the other team to 934 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 7: score and giving them momentum and the process and then 935 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 7: it just snowballs from there. So to me, it just 936 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 7: stems from those turnovers and being physically and mentally sharp 937 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 7: down the stretch. 938 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 5: Now, lastly, Jalen Clark and that perimeter defense. Like I'll 939 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 5: look at a game like tonight and I'm like, at 940 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 5: this stage of Jalen Clark Clark's career, Okay, nobody one 941 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 5: on one is going to shut down Shay Gil just Alexander, 942 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 5: but if you want to throw bodies at him, specifically 943 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 5: the big upper body and the strength of Jaalen Clark, 944 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 5: seems like it would be and maybe it'll happen. So 945 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 5: I didn't get a chance to see much of the 946 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: Sacramento game. His numbers came down. 947 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 3: They're there. 948 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he took a rough boul at the end of 949 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 5: the Phoenix game, I think, or one of those two games. 950 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 5: So like the the the maguration of Jalen Clark with 951 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 5: his calling card being defense, what what corner three is 952 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 5: an offense you get from him? I still look at 953 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 5: it as gravy, but Jalen Clark, what what are you 954 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 5: seeing with him? 955 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 956 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 2: I think you know it's if you have to remember too, 957 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 2: he's only i mean only entered the rotation about midway 958 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: through last year, so he's only played really a year 959 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: of NBA basketball, and he's already shown. 960 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 7: That he is one of the up and he's making 961 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 7: a name for himself. He's got a rep around the 962 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 7: league that you know his defense is his calling card. Yeah, 963 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 7: he came in late in that Sacramento game and fouled 964 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 7: someone before the ball had been inbounded, So that didn't 965 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 7: go well, but he didn't play as many minutes against Sacramento. 966 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 7: I think I still think I think with TJ. Shannon 967 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 7: back now, I think Chris Finch is still trying to 968 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 7: figure out kind of his rotations, and those become tough 969 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 7: when when when certain lineups aren't working together or certain 970 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 7: guys aren't going, you know, having a great night. But 971 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 7: he's got to be part of the plan going forward, 972 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 7: and he is. He'll he'll be a solid guy because 973 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 7: when you have Aunt and you've got Jayden, and you've 974 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 7: got Jalen Clark, and I still think TJ. Shannon is 975 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 7: going to be a big part of this team. And 976 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 7: I think defensively he can be you know, he can 977 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 7: be in that upper echelon group too. 978 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be. 979 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 7: A bit, you know, a little bit bigger body, so 980 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 7: he gives you some options when you're facing an SGA, 981 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 7: you're facing a Luka Doncic. But Jalen Clark has to 982 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 7: be a part of things going forward. He's he's just 983 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 7: solid defensively, He's already got really good defensive metrics. I mean, 984 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 7: teams guys just don't shoot well against Jalen Clark. 985 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 2: That's the bottom line. It's like Rudy inside. 986 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 7: Guys just don't shoot well against Rudy, and that's that's 987 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 7: what you want. You want to force misses and even better, 988 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 7: like you know, you don't want guys shooting in the 989 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 7: first place. And that's what Rudy has done for his 990 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 7: entire career. The numbers are are are staggering this year. 991 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 7: When he's on the floor, teams I don't shoot in 992 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 7: the paint or at the rim. 993 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: When he's off the floor, those numbers jump up through 994 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: the roof and jailing. 995 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 7: Clark is doing similar type things, so he's going to 996 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 7: be a big part of things going forward. 997 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving box call a good one tonight. 998 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 7: All right, all right, guys, I appreciate the time. Yeah, 999 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving everybody out there. We'll see if we can 1000 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 7: finish this road trip in style. 1001 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 5: Yes, sir against ok see, beating the best indeed would 1002 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 5: personify finishing in style, by the way personifying thanks and 1003 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 5: or giving or getting the gizzard. Don't forget we have 1004 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 5: talkbacks about twenty minutes from now. Free iHeart audio app 1005 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 5: things for which you give banks with your sports World, 1006 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 5: the nine to noon Sports World did it yesterday delivering 1007 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 5: strays of kindness. But on the other side of it 1008 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 5: is what I'm calling the gross gizzard. 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