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Speaker 2: because that's exactly what I was thinking. Because of all

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Speaker 2: remembering Bob Dulan World War two veteran Robert Doolan Stalog

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Speaker 2: on this date, October of twenty twenty two, and I

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Speaker 2: comes on the program every Monday at seven twenty to

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Speaker 2: do the smith Event Today no exception. Got Money Monday

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Speaker 2: with Brian James. The government shut down continues. How are

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Speaker 2: Socis security? How does that get impacted? Plus Snap and

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Speaker 2: a Shenanigans declaration to declare against the Clerk of Courts.

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Speaker 2: on my recollection of Judge mcdowall's you know, comments to

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Speaker 2: moving forward the original plan. Anyway. Kevin Hasse had said

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Speaker 2: But in fact, government makes the economy go. We create economies,

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Speaker 2: on this shutdown, everyone is about to experience dramatically increased premiums, copays,

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Speaker 4: Please people followed the wise advice of Tom and friends

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Al Well stated, well, you really must have been tournamentally

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Speaker 2: I have no objection to what your observed and observations are.

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Speaker 2: And who do we have to blame for that? Obviously

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Speaker 6: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station fall Is.

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Speaker 2: It's the initial emergency communication. Reports state a female was shot.

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Speaker 2: let's go to the phone. See what Tom's got this morning.

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Speaker 2: Tom has always thanks for calling a happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, and Wining Hill seems like such a

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: And we talked about this few times. And thank you,

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Speaker 7: We we talked about this thing with the money and

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Speaker 1: Do I have that right?

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Speaker 7: Well, they're capped for as far as what the patients

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Speaker 7: money you got to for cood. Oh yeah, none of

435
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Speaker 7: these things are helping us. Whatever the Democrats are screaming

436
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Speaker 7: for are not helping anyone except for the people who

437
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Speaker 7: are getting richer. And they want to claim that the

438
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Speaker 7: rich people are the problem. They want to tax the rich.

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Speaker 7: The rich are sitting back going you go ahead and

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Speaker 7: use you that slogan all you want, because we know

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Speaker 7: that behind the scenes we're getting richer and richer and richer.

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Speaker 7: We all we do is getting more money. So keep

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Speaker 7: up the good work, don't. We don't care what you say.

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Speaker 7: Just and this is what's going on. It's it's a

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Speaker 7: it's a smoke screen, and it's a like a little

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Speaker 7: magic trick, like a little three card money. And they

447
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Speaker 7: want the Democrats want you to believe that they give

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Speaker 7: a crap about you, and they don't. They don't care

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Speaker 7: about you. And and thank you Alan for saying it.

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Speaker 7: I'll say it again. Don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day, Brian, you do the same as

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Speaker 2: good to hear from you. Tom stick Around, got a

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Speaker 2: call from Bobby. Your calls are always welcome. Five one,

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Speaker 2: three seventy the talk station by forty on a Monday

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Speaker 2: post football game, Monday Congratulations with Joe's tracker a post

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Speaker 2: from yesterday evening. I just saw this. The game is

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Speaker 2: more enjoyable if you turn the sound down and play

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Speaker 2: a loop of yah any sacks. Yeah, hitting now on

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Speaker 2: the head right there, Joe, So go to the phones.

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Speaker 2: I got Bobby first, Chris, hang on your next, Bobby.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Monday, Happy.

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Speaker 5: Monday, my brother, Faith Flag family. And you know you

463
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: got to keep the firearms if you want to stay

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Speaker 5: up there with the rest of them.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I do believe more and more of these

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Speaker 2: days that is true.

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Speaker 5: Well, Cincinnati over the weekend, I mean we've got stabbing, murders, killings,

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Speaker 5: and everything else handicapped it at about five and a half.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going to happen, but if people

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Speaker 5: keep voting for these Democrats, they're going to get what's

471
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Speaker 5: coming to them, because it's coming. If people don't realize

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Speaker 5: that we're in the midst of a culture revolution, just

473
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Speaker 5: go ahead and take your wife any evening and walk

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Speaker 5: down the streets of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Unarmed and tell me you feel safe.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would know that I probably wasn't going to

477
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Speaker 2: feel safe before actually going into downtown Cincinnati. The fact

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Speaker 2: that I know that I may be unsafe would necessitate

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Speaker 2: me carrying my firearm there, and of course that I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't enter into that situation. But that that's me Bobby,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think we are definitely in the throes

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Speaker 2: of a cultural revolution. Who could who couldn't say? Who

483
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Speaker 2: couldn't agree with that? Bobby, Look at where we are.

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Speaker 2: We've entered the realm of batcrap insane.

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Speaker 1: I had an individual tell me, well, Bob, it's normal.

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Speaker 5: It's what happens all the time down Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And I told him one thing, The only thing normal.

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Speaker 5: About Cincinnati is when you go into the utility room

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Speaker 5: and you look at the dryer and it says normal.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Nothing else is normal about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was certainly a period of time where I

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Speaker 2: never would have thought about and I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: a likely thing it would. If it was likely, we'd

494
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: be reading about it the whole time. But you know,

495
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Holly getting punched in the face. That someone would beat

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Speaker 2: someone up and they have no connection with whatsoever. Someone

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00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: is rent aid. Out of nowhere, someone flies out and

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Speaker 2: punches them. We've seen other illustrations of this. Some people

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Speaker 2: are just mining their own business, walking down the street.

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Speaker 2: Next thing you know, out of nowhere, a left hook

501
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Speaker 2: knocking them flat on the ground and knocking them out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was no connection with the person who

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Speaker 2: threw the punch. That's become a more frequent phenomenon, this

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Speaker 2: idea that it's just okay to kill somebody. Think about

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Speaker 2: that woman who got stabbed on the subway train. She

506
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: was balled up, just paying attention to her cell phone.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't engaged in a confrontation with that guy. He

508
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Speaker 2: just stabbed her in the neck and she dropped dead.

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Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing. And I know it makes headlines.

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Speaker 2: I know it's clickbait. It's because it's so outrageous that

511
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Speaker 2: we can't believe our own eyes. But you know, if

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Speaker 2: that's it seems to be happening more and more, or

513
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: maybe because going back to social media, the internet, the

514
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: instantaneous reality, everything that bad it happens in the world

515
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: is presented to us real time, so we think the

516
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: whole place is spiraling out of control. That's the only

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Speaker 2: counter narrative to your conclusion, Bobby, is just that now

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Speaker 2: it's always been sort of like this, but we never

519
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: heard about what's going on in Poughkeepsie, Iowa locally when

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00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: someone got punched for no reason. Now it's right there

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Speaker 2: as a headlines in a national press. Look, so and

522
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: so got punched in the face for no reason. They're

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Speaker 2: in the hospital. They died to go fund me some

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Speaker 2: accountsmen set up. You know, it seems like it's literally

525
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: happening all the time. So you got to figure it

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Speaker 2: out for yourself. Is it really getting that much worse

527
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Speaker 2: or are we just seeing it more because of well

528
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: the Internet. I think maybe a little bit of both.

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Speaker 2: Bobby could be quite honest with you. Let's see what

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Speaker 2: I gotta get Chris in here for this segment soever, Chris,

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Speaker 2: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 9: Those two callers before it didn't put me in a

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Speaker 9: phone call ready this morning, So Cleveland enter here a

535
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Speaker 9: little bit. There is an annual affair on near Veterans Day,

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Speaker 9: Veterans Day being November eleventh. There's a concert this year,

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Speaker 9: and it's every year at Memorial Hall, and it's on Sunday,

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Speaker 9: and it's at two o'clock in the afternoon, and it

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Speaker 9: is the Queen City Concert Band at Memorial Hall. It's

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Speaker 9: a free concert celebrating our veterans. And I was hoping

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Speaker 9: that you could get the word to the organizations that

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Speaker 9: are in the different counties that support and do many

543
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Speaker 9: good things for the veterans that they could see if

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Speaker 9: they could transport some of these men women to the concert.

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Speaker 9: It is a rousing, patriotic celebration of our veterans. And

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Speaker 9: this Memorial Hall is just one fantastic place.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 9: It's right next to Music Hall, of course, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Very very historic.

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Speaker 9: Anyhow, I think the people who care for our veterans

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Speaker 9: and like music would us love this concert. And I

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00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 9: hope that you can engender some enthusiasm to get as

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Speaker 9: many veterans there as possible.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate what you did to that end. So even

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Speaker 2: I know about it now thanks to your phone call today,

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Speaker 2: Chris spread the word five forty five got Fred and

557
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Speaker 2: Jay on the phone. Stick around, guys, be right back

558
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: and take your phone calls. But I want to first

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00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: mention rhyanoshell because deep talk station five fifty fifty five

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Speaker 2: K see talk station Monday. Like it or not, it is,

561
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: deal with it. Try to wake up this morning, folks.

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Speaker 1: Bear with me.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what the phone calls have we got Fred first, Jay,

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Speaker 2: hang on, Fred, thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 3: Very good morning.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Once again, one of the things I was calling you about.

568
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Speaker 3: You had answered the guy prior to me, and I

569
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: keep saying that you can't keep making me like you.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to let you know that because once once

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Speaker 3: again you're telling him basically, look because you have to

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Speaker 3: look for yourself. And I'm the same thing I'm saying

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Speaker 3: about violence. And I understand what people say that they

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Speaker 3: look at TV and they think violence is going on

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day, every minute, and every day.

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Speaker 1: It's not like that.

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Speaker 3: You got a few individuals that's causing the problem. It's

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Speaker 3: not the whole community. It's not a lot of black people.

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Speaker 3: It's not a lot of white people. It's not a

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Speaker 3: lot of Mexicans or Africans or are whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not happening like that. I feel comfortable walking in

583
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Speaker 3: any neighborhood in the city. I don't carry a firearm.

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Speaker 3: I got fourteen of them, but I don't care e

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Speaker 3: none of them because I feel safe now. I believe me,

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Speaker 3: I know my surroundings, and I know when the individual

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Speaker 3: is not acting right.

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Speaker 1: I move myself from the situation right.

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Speaker 3: And that's simple as that. And I appreciate the way

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Speaker 3: that you had worded it and the reason I called you.

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Speaker 3: I called to get educated because I purposely listen over

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Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks at your callers and everything

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Speaker 3: like that, and everything I have heard was it was

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Speaker 3: no solutions. Everything has been a bit of anger of

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Speaker 3: what's going on on it. I'm an independent. Let me

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00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: say this, and I and I lean more towards the

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00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: Democrats apt because of the abortion thing. I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 3: that alone. But my whole, my whole thing is this.

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Speaker 3: I always wanted to hear solutions. I don't call if

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Speaker 3: I don't have somewhat of a solution. But when I

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Speaker 3: hear that no one has a solution, but you're angry

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Speaker 3: at something that I've still trying to figure out. What

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Speaker 3: when I when I can hear what a person anger at,

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00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: then I can say, okay, I have to understand. I

605
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: can go look for myself and see why they're angry.

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Speaker 3: But there's never a solution. And all of my accidents

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Speaker 3: for the callers to educate me, educate me. I'm an

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Speaker 3: independent leading towards democrat. Bring me over to the Republican side.

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Speaker 3: And about a week ago you had said that you know,

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Speaker 3: sometimes is when a situation comes that you can bring

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Speaker 3: a Democrat or independent over. Bring them over. This is

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Speaker 3: the time I act some people to do. Now, bring

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Speaker 3: me over. Give me something that why I should not

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Speaker 3: ever vote Democrats are independent, and let me hear this

615
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Speaker 3: for myself, and I will come to your station and say, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm coming over, but I haven't heard it yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and you know, the the tougher the

618
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: quote unquote perceived problem, the more likely it is someone's

619
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Speaker 2: going to gravitate towards demanding the government answer that you

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Speaker 2: provide this so called solution. We got a problem with healthcare, Obamacare,

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Speaker 2: the solution. Now the Obamacare has become the problem under

622
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Speaker 2: the current argument over premiums. Premiums that were well, these

623
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Speaker 2: subsidies suspended because COVID nineteen became a problem. So, by god,

624
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Speaker 2: we can't charge everyone the full freight for the Obamacare

625
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: on premium, So we're going to suspend that. People start

626
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: embracing that, and they get used to having the premium suspended.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of defying logic and reason. The premiums didn't

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Speaker 2: go away. It's just that fred U as a taxpayer

629
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Speaker 2: and me as a taxpayer, and all of the taxpayers

630
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Speaker 2: are now basically shouldering the burden of paying the premium.

631
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Speaker 2: The government solution to COVID was to get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: The problem now, the problem is getting rid of it

633
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Speaker 2: is the problem. I mean, we keep chasing our tails.

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Speaker 1: I go to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead, No, no,

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Speaker 2: I mean interject. I mean we're having a free form

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Speaker 2: conversation here. Fred. I don't think I have the other

638
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Speaker 2: answers to what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: But oh, okay, okay, to Obamacare. I'm not saying that

640
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Speaker 3: that that's the greatest thing in the world. But my

641
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: whole thing is, once again, give me something to replace

642
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: it better than what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 3: I'm my accident. I don't like it, believe me that

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Speaker 3: I do. I don't like it, but something is better

646
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: than nothing at all. And once we get to this, well,

647
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Speaker 3: you know, the government didn't shut down, and he's saying

648
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: that the Democrats wanted to. You have immigrants from New Zealand,

649
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Speaker 3: New Zealand, Africa, Asia all over the country.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Mexicans, of course not yeah, no, no, yeah, And.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that we should be affording to be

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Speaker 3: able for of them. But we've stuck on these Mexicans

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Speaker 3: for some reason, I don't know why, but we stuck

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Speaker 3: on there. But we got people from all over the

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Speaker 3: world here. It is there calls and problems.

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Speaker 2: Also, And here's where I'll disagree. I think it is

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Speaker 2: objectively any illegal immigrants anywhere. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with Mexico. It is happening to be closer approximately to

659
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Speaker 2: US than any other country. And they also happen to

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Speaker 2: have an economy that once that suggests that their people

661
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Speaker 2: would be better served in the United States. One of

662
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Speaker 2: the drivers of that is that they are hooked up

663
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Speaker 2: to the umbilical court of the social welfare safety net.

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Speaker 2: They are entitled to free education, apparently, free medical. They

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Speaker 2: get government services which you and I are paying for.

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Speaker 2: That's the line of the saying that most people say,

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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's going to a Mexican or

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Speaker 2: someone from Africa, or maybe even a Northern European person

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Speaker 2: who snuck into the country illegally. It shouldn't be that way.

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Speaker 2: That carrots shouldn't be there. Our taxpayers suggest that we

671
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Speaker 2: are supporting the American population with those government resources. But

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Speaker 2: the minute you open that up to the entire world,

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Speaker 2: which we saw during the Obama administration, we find out

674
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Speaker 2: that the costs are overwhelming. So American citizens with American

675
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars supporting this are being deprived of some of

676
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: the various services they think their taxpayer dollars are going for.

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Speaker 2: Enter outrage, enter an awareness of a problem that didn't

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Speaker 2: exist before twenty million people just flew into the United States.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this has nothing to do with Mexico. Fred

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Speaker 2: I agree with you completely and to the extent.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I agree with you and the the last two

682
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Speaker 3: things and my whole thing once again, it's for education. Also,

683
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Speaker 3: when I was coming up in school, everyone wouldn't go

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Speaker 3: into college, and they knew they wasn't gone to college.

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Speaker 3: So we had block classes. You learn automotive fuel, learn paining,

686
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Speaker 3: you learn anything dealing with uh, something that you definitely

687
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Speaker 3: wouldn't going to college. Trades basically a trade school.

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Speaker 1: Basically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so when they took that out of school, and

691
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Speaker 3: and and and they took.

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Speaker 1: And made individual say, Okay.

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Speaker 3: You go through twelve years of school, they need they

694
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Speaker 3: put you out of school, but you've never learned the trade.

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Speaker 1: You people going to college.

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Speaker 3: So now now they talking about putting trade school back

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Speaker 3: in schools. Wouldn't you should never took it out from the.

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Speaker 2: Beginning, Amen, Fred, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: They're going it happened back over stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just say, And what happened when they

701
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Speaker 2: took trades out of the school. That's when everybody starts

702
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: demonizing the whole idea of trade, like you know, making

703
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Speaker 2: blittling hard work. Oh, you need to go to a college,

704
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Speaker 2: get a college education. Now, No, no, no, it's not

705
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Speaker 2: for everybody. It's it's there's an opportunity out there to

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Speaker 2: not be in debt, get a job, hitting the ground running.

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Speaker 2: Why did they eradicate that ease with which we made

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Speaker 2: that concept with the trade schools, Diamond Oak, Scarlet Oak,

709
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Speaker 2: some of the other ones, vocational training. I mean, and

710
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Speaker 2: you know it used to exist. You're right, Fred, And

711
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Speaker 2: I don't know why it disappeared, but at least embrace

712
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Speaker 2: the reality it's coming back. If for no other reason,

713
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people realize their jobs are going to

714
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Speaker 2: be eradicated by artificial intelligence. AI can't plumb, AI can't

715
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Speaker 2: do wiring, et cetera, et cetera. Fred, I love hearing

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Speaker 2: from you, man. I appreciate your comments. I truly do

717
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: and let us all reach our own conclusion politically thinking

718
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Speaker 2: about it ourselves and analyzing the problems and issues of

719
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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 9: Stick around.

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Speaker 2: We got more to talk about coming up the top

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Speaker 2: of the our news, Jay, I will take your call

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Speaker 2: right out of the gate. I apologize couldn't get to it,

724
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Speaker 2: but I'll be right back. Today's tough headlines coming up

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Speaker 2: Fine fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk

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Speaker 2: pound five fifty on AT and T phone and real

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Speaker 2: quick to Fred's point before I get to Jay Marine

728
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Speaker 2: one of the listeners communicating me with an instant message

729
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Speaker 2: that she is often prone to dudes like solutions. Looking

730
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Speaker 2: at just the city of Cincinnati, insofar as problems, you

731
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Speaker 2: might say, well, crime's a problem, infrastructure is a problem.

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Speaker 2: You know you have a makeup. Since they say a

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Speaker 2: council one hundred percent Democrat, are you happy with the

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Speaker 2: direction the city is going? Do you think there's been

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Speaker 2: an appropriate allocation of finite resources? Are they attending to

736
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Speaker 2: the needs of the residents of the city of Cincinnati?

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Speaker 2: Are they pursuing something like a green agenda? An anti

738
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Speaker 2: police sort of perception or mentality you know you heard

739
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Speaker 2: mayor have to have per of all. His response to

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Speaker 2: the violence in downtown Cincinnati, who has offered help from

741
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Speaker 2: the governor, He took two days out of a month

742
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Speaker 2: to get additional research. Is that sufficient? Are you satisfied

743
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: with his response? We are short on officers and unlike

744
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Speaker 2: waiting around for Donald Trump to unilaterally decide to put

745
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Speaker 2: troops in the cities. And we could argue about that

746
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Speaker 2: all day long. We can't immediately replace the number of

747
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Speaker 2: officers that were down in the city of Cincinnati. That

748
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Speaker 2: takes time. That is a long term project. If you

749
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Speaker 2: can get an immediate solution by taking governor to wine

750
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Speaker 2: up on his offer for law enforcement resources, perhaps every

751
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Speaker 2: day of the month until we get to the point

752
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Speaker 2: where we can satisfy ourselves that we have had with

753
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Speaker 2: cin Saint police officers to Purdue patrols. Well, maybe there's

754
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Speaker 2: a different choice you got, Corey Bowman. If you're unhappy

755
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: with aftab Provoll, He's like, oh, I can't vote for

756
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Speaker 2: a Republican. Ask yourself, why are you happy with the

757
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: way things are? Okay? If not, then why not try?

758
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Speaker 2: Corey Bowman is mayor is a finite period of time.

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Speaker 1: Give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if it works. He's surrounding himself with great people.

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Speaker 2: We might have city manager Todd Zinzer somebody else you mentioned,

762
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Speaker 2: and he will be perfect for the job. And he's

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Speaker 2: amazingly experienced, being a former Inspector General from the United

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Speaker 2: States government. Steve Gooden Charter right. You don't have to

765
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Speaker 2: vote Republican. Vote Steve Gooden. He's brilliant, he's got a record,

766
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Speaker 2: he was appointed on council for a while, and I

767
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Speaker 2: think he is certainly not a third rail by any

768
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: stretching the imagination. So replacing Dems may, she says, is

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Speaker 2: the solution. I say, at least maybe the solution. You

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Speaker 2: may not be satisfied after, you know, let's say a

771
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Speaker 2: Republican at least presence on council. Well maybe if you

772
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Speaker 2: even give them complete control. You got more Republicans and

773
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: Democrats on council, you got a Republican mayor. Get your

774
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: popcorn out. Let's see how things unfold. Things clearly, at

775
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: least from my perspective, are not on the right track

776
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: in the city. So you have an alternative to try.

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00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: We do this all the time in the in matters political.

778
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: We try and sometimes it doesn't deliver, and sometimes it

779
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: does deliver, and it delivers in spades. I mean, think

780
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: about where we were under Jimmy Carter and then look

781
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: at where we were after or after even four years.

782
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Speaker 2: But eight years of the Reagan administration. Well on the

783
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: right track. Maybe a profound shift in a right direction.

784
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Speaker 2: Let's see it. Jay, Thanks for indulging me there. Thank

785
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: you so much for holding I always appreciate your calls.

786
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Speaker 2: Welcome back and happy Monday.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Happy Monday, Bryan. Hey, love your program. Whenever you

788
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 10: get a collar like Fred, I think that's the first

789
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Speaker 10: time in my life that I have been I've blessened

790
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 10: to talk radio for years and years where somebody said, hey,

791
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 10: educate me, make your point.

792
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 9: What are you angry about?

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Speaker 7: Uh So, kudos to Fred to throw that out.

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Speaker 10: Let me in a very short amount of time. Give

795
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Speaker 10: you a couple of recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Fred.

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Speaker 10: One is and by the by, this is humbly.

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Speaker 7: I do not have all the answers.

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Speaker 10: Only one person has all the answers, and that's Lord

800
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 10: the Savior Jesus Christ. So I would recommend fits Everett

801
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 10: Ellison's book The Iron Triangle, a former Democrat turn Republican.

802
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 10: Maybe in a similar spot, Fred to where he started

803
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 10: trying to figure out what was the difference, and it

804
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 10: was an awakening for him of what is the difference?

805
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 10: High level, here's what I would say. A conservative is

806
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 10: somebody who says, I am good with me. I got me,

807
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 10: I don't need the government, I don't need anybody else

808
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 10: in my on my back or in my Quallet leave

809
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 10: me alone. I don't want anything to do with you.

810
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 10: I'll follow the laws. That's it, that's all I want.

811
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Speaker 10: A liberal and so a conservative says, we have these

812
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 10: God given rights, and only God can give us these

813
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 10: rights and will allow me to pursue any life that

814
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Speaker 10: I want, any opportunity that I want to pursue. The liberals,

815
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 10: on the other hand, I adopted the philosophy that came

816
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 10: out of Germany in the late eighteen hundreds. It says, no, no, no,

817
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 10: God doesn't give you rights. Government gives you rights. And

818
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Speaker 10: famously at LBJ President LBJ. Johnson, And remember, the Democrats

819
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 10: were the party of the Confederacy. They are the party

820
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 10: of slavery. They are the party of keep people in

821
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 10: change and take away their power, and we'll make all

822
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Speaker 10: the decisions. And not much has changed. The Democrat Party

823
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Speaker 10: has had power and control over every innertony for decades,

824
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 10: maybe one hundred years. And the output of their philosophy

825
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 10: is what you see with the crime that's going on

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Speaker 10: in all the major cities that have been run by

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Speaker 10: Democrats for decades, which is, here's the deal. The deal

828
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Speaker 10: from the liberals the Democrat party is if you get

829
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 10: if you vote Democrat, we're going to give you a

830
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 10: little bit of something, something which means we're going to

831
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 10: steal from your fellow Americans, legalized theft, and we're going

832
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Speaker 10: to give it to you. It won't be enough for

833
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 10: you to ever get ahead, it won't be enough for

834
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Speaker 10: you to ever really be satisfied, but you won't really

835
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Speaker 10: have to work that hard, but we'll keep you in poverty,

836
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Speaker 10: and then we become your slave masters again. And all

837
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Speaker 10: you have to do is follow our plan. And that

838
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Speaker 10: goes for people of all colors, that's all races, and

839
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Speaker 10: vitz Ebrett Ellison lays that out in his book beautifully

840
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 10: that what they started with the black community is going

841
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 10: on across all communities, and that's their plan is socialism

842
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 10: and communism, where there's central planning that's going to take

843
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 10: care of everything. You just have to turn all of

844
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 10: your power, all of your rights, all of your money

845
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 10: over to them. You're no longer a citizen, You're now

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Speaker 10: a slave. That's the difference between conservatism and liberalism and

847
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 10: the don't vote Democrat or Rhino.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I was say in that latter position, philosophy

849
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: is really predicated and relies almost exclusively on waging class

850
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Speaker 2: warfare and telling people it's not fair. Someone's got more

851
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: than you, we should take from them and give it

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00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: to you, which to me is immoral and unethical just

853
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: as a starting point, but that's where it all comes from.

854
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: It's that anger and resentment because you're out there in

855
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: the world and you're not winking a whole lot of money.

856
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: Your life didn't turn out the way you thought it

857
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: was going to be. It's not fair. I haven't gotten

858
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: the American dreams. So you latch onto these people who

859
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: are redistributing wealth. That's what the whole system of government

860
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: is based on.

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Speaker 10: From their perspective, well correct, And they have to make

862
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 10: you believe that you were the victim, right, But as

863
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Speaker 10: soon as you wake up and you figure out that

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Speaker 10: you're not a victim and you're a citizen, and you

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Speaker 10: have any you can pursue any opportunity you want. Now

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Speaker 10: you're no longer a slave, and it's unbelievable what you.

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Speaker 1: Can accomplish well.

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Speaker 2: And I also have to observe Jay, your description of

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Speaker 2: conservatism actually sounds like a description of a libertarian philosophy,

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Speaker 2: which you know, considering you summed up conservatism as you know,

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Speaker 2: stay the hell away from me.

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Speaker 1: You do what you want.

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Speaker 2: I can live under the umbrella. I'll follow the law,

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Speaker 2: You follow the law, we'll I'll make our own decisions

875
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Speaker 2: for ourselves. For quite often, the dividing factor, and Fred

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Speaker 2: even said it, abortion was one thing that caused so

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Speaker 2: many even people who might be otherwise quote unquote conservatives

878
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Speaker 2: safe from a fiscal standpoint, didn't want the government saying

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Speaker 2: whether or not a woman could have an abortion. That

880
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Speaker 2: was embedded in the conservative slash Republican party platform, and

881
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Speaker 2: it served as a great foil to Republicans making inroads.

882
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Speaker 2: I've always been to the mind, I trust you with

883
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Speaker 2: your in your zipper. Don't come after my wallet, and

884
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: don't come after my zipper. We're capable over here in

885
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Speaker 2: the Thomas household of making your own decisions about where

886
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: we spend our money and how we choose to engage

887
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Speaker 2: in sexual activities. I'm cool with you doing your own thing.

888
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Speaker 2: Just do it behind the damn door and enjoy your life.

889
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: But that wasn't the case up until fairly recently, and

890
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Speaker 2: more and more folks subscribe to what you were saying,

891
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: what I've always said. My goal was always to be Republicans,

892
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Speaker 2: should be more little L libertarian, little L libertarian. And look,

893
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Speaker 2: abortions no longer a federal issue, Federal office holders are

894
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Speaker 2: no longer running on that it's a state's issue. And

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Speaker 2: has abortion gone away? No, If last reporting, there are

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Speaker 2: more now than there were before Roe v. Wade was overturned,

897
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Speaker 2: More people and more states decided to enshrine the right

898
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Speaker 2: of abortion because well, I guess the population wanted it,

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Speaker 2: So strike that from the party platform unless you're in

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Speaker 2: a state where you think you can do something about it. Also,

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Speaker 2: you know, conservatives quite often advocated for religion in schools,

902
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Speaker 2: but only conservative. I only am a Christianity. We don't

903
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Speaker 2: live in a theocracy. I mean that's in the constitution

904
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Speaker 2: free exercise of religion, not free exercise of Christianity alone.

905
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Speaker 2: So that was a dividing thing and find that offensive

906
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Speaker 2: if you will, it's still a political reality. More and

907
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: more people aren't touching that aspect. They're just looking at

908
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Speaker 2: dollars and cents. They're looking at exactly what you're talking about, Jay,

909
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Speaker 2: And I think that's a personally, I believe that's healthy

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Speaker 2: because we get rid of all this effort to control

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Speaker 2: our lives that one element, whether the left is doing

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Speaker 2: it or the right is doing it. Maybe governments shouldn't

913
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Speaker 2: be controlling these personal issues in our lives, right, No,

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't. They shouldn't. That's not what elect officials are

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Speaker 2: in a position to do. Do they know what's going

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Speaker 2: on in your home, in your neighborhood? No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Six sixteen fifty five Krcity Talk Station, Chime In, I

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Speaker 2: Love It five p. One to three, six twenty one

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Speaker 2: fifty five Carcity Talks Station, Happy Monday, Monday Monday, Brian

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Speaker 2: James eight oh five. I'm preceded by, of course, Christopher

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Speaker 2: Smith and coming up in one hour with the Smith event.

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Speaker 2: Us an opportunity here, Judge Christopher McDowell should have been

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Speaker 2: listening to lunch and made a Shenanigan's declaration at listener

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Speaker 2: lunch to me. We're gonna hear about that Shenanigan's declaration

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Speaker 2: that he thirty without further ado. Let's see what Tom's

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Speaker 2: got hand hold on. We'll get you next. Tom, thanks

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Speaker 2: for calling.

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Speaker 11: Brian so over the weekend or last Friday, I was

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Speaker 11: reading they got the twenty point property tax h relief. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: buddy done. I read it like twice and still don't

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Speaker 11: understand where the money is.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, Tom. Tom. I have three articles in

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Speaker 2: front of me about the Republican's plans to override Governor

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Speaker 2: Mike Dwines Veto and looking into what the Property Tax

935
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Speaker 2: Group had released by way of its twenty point plan,

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Speaker 2: I was confused, as hell man the reporting on it.

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Speaker 11: Say what said it looks like a bunch of lawyers

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Speaker 11: wrote that document.

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Speaker 2: It's designed to confuse.

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Speaker 11: It seems like the more money we give them, the

941
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Speaker 11: more waste and abuse we have.

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Speaker 2: So well that goes with that.

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Speaker 11: Say so, you know the old saying death and taxes.

944
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Speaker 11: But we're gonna have to get some kind of relief here,

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Speaker 11: and I don't think it's that complicated.

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Speaker 1: We just need to.

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Speaker 11: Pull up our sleeves and reach in there and yank

948
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Speaker 11: the guts out of the situation because these schools are

949
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Speaker 11: really taking them bulk of this money. And I think,

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Speaker 11: you know, get those tax vouchers for any school you

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Speaker 11: want to go to and you get better education, and yeah,

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Speaker 11: I don't know if you have anything to fill in on.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's see. That's one of the ways I've always

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Speaker 2: commented on. Okay, if we get rid of property taxes,

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Speaker 2: it's not just schools. And of course, going back twenty

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Speaker 2: years ago, the Supreme Court in Ohio so that the

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Speaker 2: current funding mechanism is unconstitutional. Let's ignore that court order.

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Speaker 2: But you would solve presumably that problem if you got

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Speaker 2: a voucher for the kids. The money goes directly to

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Speaker 2: the kids, and money obviously then would have to come

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Speaker 2: from Columbus. That takes the way this county local funding

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Speaker 2: mechanism right now, it's going to be alchemy to figure

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Speaker 2: out how much per student goes to any individual student

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Speaker 2: unless they just make it equal across the board. It's

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Speaker 2: more expensive in some areas than others, and we can

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Speaker 2: discuss the reasons why that may be. But at least

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Speaker 2: the money would come from a uniform source. It would

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Speaker 2: go to the kids. That would take that out of

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Speaker 2: the local levy situation, and of course it'd be one

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Speaker 2: less item. We needed to figure out how to fund

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Speaker 2: how do you fund local parks, how do you fund

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Speaker 2: local police? How do you fund local fire? That is

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Speaker 2: a complicating issue. If you eradicate property taxes, all that

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Speaker 2: money apparently is going to have to have its roots

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Speaker 2: in Columbus, and you can only imagine the Charlie foxtrot

976
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Speaker 2: reality of elected officials and Columbus arguing over who gets

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Speaker 2: what and how much. Very complicated.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, we might have commissions on the study.

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Speaker 2: For forever twenty years. Again, Tom, we've been under the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision that's being ignored now for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I can see the road going down that

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Speaker 2: road and it probably won't result in anything. At least

983
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Speaker 2: they're trying. Thanks Tom, appreciate that. Yeah, go ahead and

984
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Speaker 2: read up on that. It is confusing. Do we have

985
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Speaker 2: time for Hank, Joe Henk. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday.

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Speaker 12: Well, good morning, Brian. I hope I can get through

988
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Speaker 12: all of this. I've had a comms or not. Tom

989
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Speaker 12: Fred's comments kind of got me going, So I'm going

990
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Speaker 12: to try and go through this belt fed The problem

991
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Speaker 12: with the Democrats is basically they're divided pretty much between

992
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Speaker 12: anarchists and status and the problem with that they cause

993
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 12: is Democrats increase crime by tolerating it. Now you can

994
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Speaker 12: point to January sixth, but with Donald Trump said let's

995
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Speaker 12: go to the Capitol and make our voices known peacefully

996
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 12: and patriotically. So that's basically the argument is is that

997
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 12: it's on both sides. It's not. Another thing is abortion

998
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 12: encourages their responsibility. Now, you keep saying, you know, you

999
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 12: trust people with their own zipper, but quite honestly, there's

1000
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Speaker 12: a lot of people out there that are just going wild,

1001
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Speaker 12: and you know, you say that's their choice, but to me,

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Speaker 12: it seems like it hardens people when you start making

1003
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Speaker 12: abortion come and it makes death cheap. Now, also when

1004
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 12: when you have too many immigrants with another one of

1005
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 12: Fred's points is they don't assimilate. They come into the country,

1006
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Speaker 12: they set up their own little enclaves, like what's going

1007
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Speaker 12: on in Detroit, and you wind up, yeah, and you

1008
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Speaker 12: wind up with people that basically are they're settling, they're

1009
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 12: not they're colonizing, they're not just joining America. And also

1010
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Speaker 12: you run into the problem as you mentioned where they

1011
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 12: hook themselves up to the umbilical cord and don't seem.

1012
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Speaker 1: To get off right.

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Speaker 12: Go back to where Tom was or Fred was asking

1014
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Speaker 12: about you know why they took shop class out of school. Well,

1015
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Speaker 12: they took it out because it was sexist. It was

1016
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Speaker 12: boys went to shop class and girls went to home mack.

1017
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Speaker 12: And we can't have that kind of crap going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hank, when I was in high school, I took

1019
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: homemack and I learned how to make peanut brittle. I

1020
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Speaker 2: still make that recipe to this day. We're going back

1021
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Speaker 2: fifty years, man, I think roughly, so maybe a little long,

1022
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Speaker 2: a forty five years. But no, I mean could always

1023
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: take homemac. It's just a question of society's acceptance of it.

1024
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Speaker 2: It took a while for us to get over to

1025
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Speaker 2: the point where, yeah, men women can take shop, men

1026
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: can take shop. The traditional roles of men and women

1027
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: have changed and shifted over the years, and in so

1028
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 2: far as people, you know, going back to your collective, like, yes,

1029
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Speaker 2: Minneapolis has large Muslim communities. Yes, in New York, and

1030
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Speaker 2: it's been this way for a long time. There's always

1031
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: been heavy concentration of Jewish people living together, and in fact,

1032
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Speaker 2: they have their own system of governance, self governance. They

1033
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Speaker 2: have Jewish law and they and of course it doesn't

1034
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: supersede local laws. You can still go to the prosecutor's

1035
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: office if you've been wrong. There are still laws in

1036
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Speaker 2: the books that do apply. But quite often they choose

1037
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Speaker 2: to resolve their problems amongst themselves. And who am I

1038
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Speaker 2: to tell you you can't do that. The fact that

1039
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Speaker 2: people who are of like mind, that look alike, that

1040
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: think alike, that practice the same religion all want to

1041
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: congregate together, that makes sense to me. I mean, that's

1042
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Speaker 2: exactly the way we are. I mean, I've always said

1043
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Speaker 2: I'll be friends with anybody. I don't care what color

1044
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: they are, what religion they practice. If they like the

1045
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: same kind of stuff that I like to do, we're

1046
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Speaker 2: probably going to get along great. So that's normal. It's

1047
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: always been that way, so I don't find a problem

1048
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Speaker 2: with it under this big umbrella we have. But I

1049
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: don't know that you necessarily need to assimilate into the culture.

1050
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Speaker 2: And what does that mean. I think if we all

1051
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Speaker 2: had some reasonable ethics and norms about respecting each other's

1052
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: rights and freedoms and our ability to go in the

1053
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Speaker 2: direction we want. We'd be in a better place. Just

1054
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: that a lot of people out in the world are

1055
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: trying to force you into doing something you don't want

1056
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: to do. Again, going back to looking at communities, like

1057
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Speaker 2: minded people congregate together. The Left's always been about stirring

1058
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: that pot up. We need to have representation from all

1059
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 2: racist creeds ethnicities. There must be a percentage of people

1060
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Speaker 2: that are this color and that color. Why well, because

1061
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: all right, but we mentally and we I think, crave

1062
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Speaker 2: to be around like minded people. That's how you end

1063
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Speaker 2: up with neighborhoods that are of like mind. It was

1064
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Speaker 2: a choice that was made by the people that live there.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five Karrascity Toalxtation. You feel free to chime in.

1066
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Speaker 2: Maybe you see it differently. I don't mind that at all,

1067
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Speaker 2: difference of opinion. They're welcome here on the Since I

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Speaker 2: please identified a man killed after our shooting in Roselawn

1069
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Speaker 2: that happened on Saturday. Kenny Townsend, thirty five, died as

1070
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Speaker 2: a result of being shot sixteen hundred block A Summit.

1071
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Speaker 2: Rogue officers called area to the area about twelve thirty pm.

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Speaker 2: That's where they found Towns in with a gunshot wound,

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Speaker 2: initially suffering life threatening injuries, according to Lieutenant Jonathan Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: Police have not stated if they have a suspect still

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Speaker 2: under investigation again Crime Stoppers three five two thirty forty

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Speaker 2: just two of the stories involving violence in downtown Cincinnati. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I got out of it along

1078
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Speaker 2: those lines, but I certainly got a good peanut brittle recipe.

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Speaker 2: I also took woodshot. I also took typing. I also

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Speaker 2: took sewing. Yeah, that was part of home act. I

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Speaker 2: made a dog a bet. Yeah, one of those beanbag

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Speaker 2: kind of things is basically a giant ball filled with

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Speaker 2: fluffy you know. Yeah, I made one of those. My

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Speaker 2: only accomplishment in sewing class. But you know, do I

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Speaker 2: know how to thread a sewing machine?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd be hard pressed to do it now,

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00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: it's been too many years, but I did learn a skill.

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Speaker 2: We're a lot of women in that class too. I

1090
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Speaker 2: was looking at this meme someone sent them Shocking things

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Speaker 2: liberals believe, and it's all, of course, things that liberals

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Speaker 2: believe that you're supposed to think are great ideas. Like,

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Speaker 2: for example, here's one everyone should have access equal access

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00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: to equal education. What does that mean in going back

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00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: to what liberals believe. Apparently they believe in one single

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Speaker 2: solitary public school platform, the public school, and they will

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Speaker 2: not give you choice. I think you have a greater

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Speaker 2: opportunity to equal access to equal education if you're given

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Speaker 2: the freedom of choice to choose. And here's another one

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Speaker 2: that I thought rather interesting. There should not be subsidies

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Speaker 2: for profitable corporations. Yeah, I agree with that, but there

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Speaker 2: also shouldn't be subsidies for unprofitable corporations. Like the whole

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Speaker 2: green energy thing, it's coming collapsing around us. If you

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Speaker 2: have no subsidies, no one wants it. It can't compete.

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: It's an inferior energy source. But what about the climate. Yeah,

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00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant. Just take that element out

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Speaker 2: of the whole global warming argument. Let the plants eat

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00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: the food that we give them with our exhalation. Carbon

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Speaker 2: dioxide is, in and of itself, nothing that is going

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Speaker 2: to kill the planet. It's not like mercury, where it

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01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: causes cancer or other problems. And you know it exists

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Speaker 2: as a natural component of our world. Ergo, it's not

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Speaker 2: a pollutant. Yeah, lobbyists should not be allowed to bribe

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Speaker 2: our representatives. I'll agree with that. The question is is

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Speaker 2: funding their campaigns a former bribery? And if it is,

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: then both liberals and conservatives are equal opportunity offenders when

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Speaker 2: it comes to that. So I guess it's a question

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Speaker 2: in the hearts and minds of liberals whose ox is

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Speaker 2: being goored when it comes to campaign funding from lobbyists.

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Speaker 2: No child should fear being shot at school, I agree,

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Speaker 2: but it's a breakdown of society, not the firearm itself,

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01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: because the firearm, while being protected as an inalienable right

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Speaker 2: under our constitution, the firearm does not get up on

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Speaker 2: its own and start shooting people at schools. Crazy people

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Speaker 2: do that. Can you get rid of crazy? Is there

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Speaker 2: a pece of legislation you can pass and is going

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01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: to get rid of crazy? The answer is obviously no.

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Speaker 2: Wall Street gangsters should go to prison when they steal. Well,

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Speaker 2: calling them gangsters is one thing, it's a label unsupported

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Speaker 2: by facts. But if they are stealing, definitionally, that is

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: a crime, and they should go to prison when they

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Speaker 2: are stealing. I guess it depends on what your definition

1133
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: of steal. Is hmm. And then there's a whole idea

1134
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: of equality, equal rights, and equal pay should be a

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Speaker 2: benchmark for all Americans. Welcome to the the just the

1136
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: bare bones reality of Marxism or Communism. From each according

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01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: to his ability, to each according to his need. Yes, you,

1138
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: as a barista at the Starbucks are entitled to equal pay. Yes,

1139
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Speaker 2: even that of a CEO at a Fortune five hundred

1140
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Speaker 2: country company, which they complain about in this meme as well.

1141
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: CEOs should not receive three thousand times the pay of

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Speaker 2: their workers. Oh that's a market force driven I might

1143
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: agree conceptually with you with his statement. Are they really

1144
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: worth that much? Apparently the big corporations think so. They're

1145
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: chasing after the same groups and individuals that are on

1146
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: various boards of directors, many of whom serve on multiple

1147
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: board of directors, and are handsomely paid for it because

1148
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: I guess they have the qualifications that maybe a frontline

1149
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: worker does not have, thus justifying their well increase salary.

1150
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Speaker 2: I could go on and on on this. You know,

1151
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: you look at them and immediately they appear to be

1152
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: appealing as an out loud statement, but then you peel

1153
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: back the veneer of what they're saying, and the fallacy

1154
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: of the statements are revealed in full six forty six

1155
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Speaker 2: at fifty five KRC, the six fifty one if if

1156
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: you buy KRC detalk station have a Monday trying to

1157
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: make it so anyway, Well, so Trumpson's in Portland, in

1158
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Speaker 2: the National Guarden in Portland, where the place is falling apart.

1159
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Speaker 2: Now going back to a common thread made earlier. You know,

1160
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: you believe your eyes, believe your ears, or believe what

1161
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: people are telling you, a little healthy dose of perception reality. Yes,

1162
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: there are a thousand protesters or however many given protesters

1163
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: throwing rocks and bottles and basically being violent because ICE

1164
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: is trying to do its job. Those laws are on

1165
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: the books. ICE is there just trying to do their job.

1166
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: You don't like that, then he changed the law. In

1167
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's case, he wants to send the federal troops

1168
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: in for the purpose of protecting federal property and like

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01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: justified in doing that within certain parameters. And this lawsuit

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Speaker 2: that the Trump administration loss lawsuit brought by the State

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Speaker 2: of Oregon City of Portland, arguing that the deployment was

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Speaker 2: unlawful and exceeded the president's statutory authority, and that's what

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Speaker 2: the judge decided. Two hundred Oregon National Guard members showed up,

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Speaker 2: tried to put a lid on things, and despite the

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Speaker 2: increased violence and what we witness with our own eyes.

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Speaker 2: So pick a number of violent protesters, what segment of

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Speaker 2: society do they represent? Person? Percentage of the population thought

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Speaker 2: it important to show up at the ice facility and

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Speaker 2: raise hell? What was their motivation? Were they being paid

1180
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: to do that? Are they just basically anarchists who don't

1181
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: believe in law and order? Could be a whole collection

1182
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: of those, but we've got those. Yeah, there's a lot.

1183
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: You may have one next door to you. Are they

1184
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: the majority of people? Well, that's what elections tend to determine.

1185
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: You know, people have had enough and they say no

1186
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: Moss and they want something done about the crime, or

1187
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: they want something done about illegal immigration. They vote for

1188
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: the side that is, you know, making their point. What

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Speaker 2: do you do in the meantime with the violence going

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Speaker 2: on there? Judge Immigrant ruled on Saturday that Trump's federalization

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01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: exceeded his authority because the law only allows the president

1192
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: to call on the National Guard under exceptional services circumstances, invasion, rebellion,

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: inability to execute federal law using regular forces. And the

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Speaker 2: court determined, at least in Portland, Oregon, that none of

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Speaker 2: those conditions existed. Does that mean they don't exist in Chicago?

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Speaker 2: If you're wondering why Trump is sending three hundred troops

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Speaker 2: to Chicago because this decision does not govern what's going

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Speaker 2: on in Chicago, would another judge in a case filed

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Speaker 2: in Chicago, and yes they've been filed, to find that

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Speaker 2: the president exceeded his authority in Chicago as well, that

1201
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: these these extra these these circumstances, invasion, rebellion, inability to

1202
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: execute federal law do not exist there as well. Certainly

1203
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: a judge could find that. But a judge could also

1204
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: find something to the contrary. It's a question of fact

1205
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: that you look at any given circumstances to determine. And

1206
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: so since you have people ramming ice agents with automobiles,

1207
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: maybe the circumstances are different in Chicago. I guess I

1208
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: always keep going back to, you know, if you had

1209
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: a legitimate poll, if you could check the pulse of say, Portland, oregators,

1210
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: now a lot of them may give you a knee

1211
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: jerk reaction. No federal troops being here is wrong. But

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Speaker 2: if you know you're paying for the property that they're protecting,

1213
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: and of course you're paying for the life of the

1214
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: officer being pert they get shot at, they get docks,

1215
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: then they do get docs. And that's one of the

1216
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: things that I'm so offensive about California's mask law and

1217
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: makes it a lot easier. Parenthetically, the cartels are now

1218
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: setting ten thousand dollars bounties when you kill US immigration officials. Yeah,

1219
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: so California made that task a lot simpler. Go ahead

1220
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: and collect your reward from the cartels. Kill a US

1221
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: immigration official. Yeah, But at some point the people are

1222
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: going to have a say in this matter. I'm just

1223
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: of the mind that the people would rather have law

1224
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: and order that they aren't taken in by and duped

1225
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: by this evil federal truth thing. If it's federal property,

1226
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: you protect federal property. If local law enforcement won't do

1227
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: it and they're not, somebody should go in and rescue them.

1228
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: I should we go in and rescue them and protect

1229
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Speaker 2: the property. Crazy world, we live in, folks, Crazy crazy world. Anyway,

1230
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Speaker 2: chime in if you like. We're gonna hear from Christopher Smithman,

1231
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Speaker 2: as we do every Monday at seven with the smith

1232
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: Vent again Money Money with Brian James coming up at

1233
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: eight oh five on the stock market, socis security snapping

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Wick benefits which are not impacted by the shutdown, plus

1235
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: Judge Christopher McDowell a Shenanigan's declaration from the new judge.

1236
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: He'll be in studio. I just found out that's coming

1237
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Speaker 2: up at eight thirty. I'm sure hope you can stick around,

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Speaker 2: be right back today. It's tough headlines coming for the

1239
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: importance events of today, control of Capital city check Yeah, summit.

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01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 7: With Potland, we can make a deal.

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: Events in my day to day fifty five krs the

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Speaker 2: talk station. It's seven oh five f fifty five care

1243
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Speaker 2: CB talk Station Monday. Like it or not, I always

1244
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: enjoy Monday's gift to hear from the Christopher smith Man.

1245
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: That'll be in the next segment seven to twenty for

1246
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: the smither Van, followed by Money Monday at eight oh

1247
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: five today with Brian James and Money Money, we'll talk

1248
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: about the government shutdown and how it affects dock market

1249
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: so security snapping Wig benefits if at all, And then

1250
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: in studio I'm looking forward to having Judge Christopher mcdowellan

1251
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: to make a Shenanigan's declaration on the Clerk of Courts.

1252
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: Apparently there is a secret docket. I think we've been

1253
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: down this road before felony murder cases, at least as

1254
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: I understand it. We'll get the details at eight thirty

1255
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: from the judge. If there's a felony murder, it's not

1256
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Speaker 2: on the regular docket. So local news, for example, reporting

1257
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: on such matters, and they are important as we discuss

1258
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,959
Speaker 2: crime and the increase in crime in city of Cincinnati

1259
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: and how our current elected officials are responding to it.

1260
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be nice to know if there's a felony

1261
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: murder trial going on, Yeah, you might want to cover that.

1262
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Speaker 2: How would you know if it's not on the docket,

1263
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: is a good question, he asked. He was at listener

1264
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Speaker 2: lunch and that's how I found out about this. I said,

1265
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Speaker 2: you got to come on the show to talk about it,

1266
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Speaker 2: So he'll do that at eight thirty. If you want

1267
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: to come on the show and talk about something, feel

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Speaker 2: free to call me right now five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three

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Speaker 2: talk down five fifty on AT and T phones. A

1271
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Speaker 2: real quick here. I pointed out that the judge out

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Speaker 2: in Portland, Oregon said, no, Trump exceeded his authority. Can't

1273
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: call on the National Guard under except under exceptional circumstances,

1274
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: which the court determined did not exist there. There was

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Speaker 2: no invasion, rebellion, or inability to execute federal law using

1276
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: regular forces. None of those conditions exist in Portland. So

1277
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: local law enforcement federal enforcement are capable of maintaining order.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you decide whether that's an accurate conclusion or

1279
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: not based upon what's been unfolding in Portland. But local

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01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 2: circumstances dictated that this decision, at least in the mind

1281
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: of the judge, said Trump, you exceeded your authority. The

1282
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Speaker 2: court held the public interest favored restraint, emphasizing the importance

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01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: of maintaining civilian control and avoiding military intrusion. Now pivoting

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Speaker 2: over to Chicago's, the same thing exists there. We had

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Speaker 2: ICE agents that were boxed in by ten cars on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Anti US immigration and Customs enforcement crowds have been gathering

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Speaker 2: there for days. A dozen people have been arrested in

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Speaker 2: this practice. Melee one of the drivers is accused of

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Speaker 2: ramming into the law enforcement vehicle and was also armed

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Speaker 2: with a semi automatic weapons. So much for peaceful protests.

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Speaker 2: Assistant DHS Assistant DHS Assistant Secretary of Tritiam McLoughlin, commenting

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Speaker 2: said officers were unable to move, were forced to deploy

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Speaker 2: their weapons and fired defensive shots, and an armed US citizen.

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Speaker 2: The armed woman described as a citizen identified as someone

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Speaker 2: called Marmar Martinez named them the CBP Intelligence Bolden DHS,

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Speaker 2: writing in a statement she allegedly docked agents and posted online,

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Speaker 2: Hey to all my gang lets f those compound word

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Speaker 2: mfor up. Don't let them take anyone. Fortunately, no law

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Speaker 2: enforcement officer seriously injured. But oddly enough, the problem exacerbated

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: because the Chicago police, speaking of local law enforcement and

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: civilian control and maintaining local order, maybe it doesn't exist

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: in Chicago, providing perhaps a justification for Trump deploying the troops,

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: which he apparently is doing this week. I know the

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Speaker 2: presidents of the National Fraternal Order of Police and the

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: Illinois State FOP a little upset with the reports that

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: are widely circulating in the Chicago's police. Chicago's Chief of

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01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: Patrol directed the officers not to assist the ICE agents

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 2: as they were being surrounded by protesters on Saturday, court

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01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: to the FOP President Patrick Yoes, the National FOP President.

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Speaker 2: Details are still emerging, but it appears that officers from

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01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: the Chicago Police parmer were ordered not to assist a

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: group of ICE agents while they were physically threatened by

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01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 2: what appeared to be an angry mob. Let's be clear,

1314
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: both the National FOP and the Illinois FOP believe that

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01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: when an officer calls for assistance, you answer no matter what.

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: The officers were victims of criminal activity, as defied by

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01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: state law. How about that. Now, it is a federal

1318
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: law if you accost a Federal Police Department agent, but

1319
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 2: it's also a state law. Those people are well members

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Speaker 2: of the community, and if you beat one up, according

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: to Illinois law, as there is a law in every

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: state of the books, you can't do that. It constitutes

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01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: a crime under state law. That's what the police department

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01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: is supposed to be doing. It shouldn't matter whether you're

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: a federal agent or just some grandmother walk walking down

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: the street to the grocery store. If you get beat up, punched,

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: rammed into by a vehicle, you should be arrested, and

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: Chicago police should be arresting. But if they don't come

1329
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: to your aid, they've been specifically directed to not help. Period.

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01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: End of story. Read the memo, it's circulating everywhere. That's

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: what it said. So maybe there's an extra element in

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: Chicago given that local isn't helping. They're not helping protect

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: federal property, but they're also not helping protect the lives

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 2: of human beings. Somebody's got a force state law there.

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01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: The Feds aren't a position to do it. So anyhow,

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Speaker 2: let's do what Paul's got on this. Paul, thanks for

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Speaker 2: calling this morning. Happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 13: I just wanted to ask you, how is it that

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01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 13: a citizen can ascertain, or you know, make with confidence

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01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 13: the identification of ice officers if they don't have badges

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 13: and they're just accosting people off the street.

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that they don't have badges, because

1344
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: every time I read they don't have badges, someone from

1345
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: the federal government shows up and says, no, they are

1346
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: labeled as ice officers. So I don't know the answer

1347
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: to the question because the fog of reporting is a

1348
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: bit murky on this one.

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Speaker 13: Well, except for the plenty of videos out there, and

1350
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 13: you've got people like Benny Johnson, you know, right wing

1351
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 13: activists Benny Johnson and Christy nom out there wearing ICE things.

1352
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 13: And I mean Benny Johnson is not an ICE officer,

1353
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 13: and that's just one of them, you know, the it's

1354
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 13: become just a public spectacle to go out. And again,

1355
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 13: if I see one of my neighbors being a costag

1356
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 13: just because their skin is brown, how am I supposed

1357
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 13: to know that those people are acting in an official capacity?

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: Well, how would you know that someone's are costing your

1359
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: neighbor because of their skin being brown. That's kind of

1360
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: a conclusion we've reached on your own without any information

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01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: supporting that conclusion.

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01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: Well, so why was the.

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01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 13: Guy who arrested twice in South Carolina in a construction

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 13: an American citizen twice just because his skin was brown?

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's the case, But then again,

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01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't know which guy you're talking about. Again, the

1367
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 2: foger reporting on all this. There's so many isolated incidents

1368
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: reported on across this country every given day. I can't

1369
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: keep track of the people honestly or the facts behind

1370
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: each one. Are there atrocities being committed by law enforcement sometimes?

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely are Often they're doing their lawful job and trying

1372
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: to enforce the law. Of course they are. Are these

1373
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: problems going to crop up from time to time? Of course,

1374
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: there are bad eggs among all law enforcement officers, much

1375
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 2: in the way there are bad eggs among the ro

1376
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: testers thinking that they're just merely supporting human rights and

1377
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: people's right to live in a free society. There are

1378
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: always bad actors and bad eggs trying to clean it up.

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Speaker 13: Those are great points, Those are great points. But again

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 13: that just the fact that you have these people out

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 13: there right now. There are impersonators just as you mentioned,

1382
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 13: there's characters everywhere, right and it just seems like a

1383
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 13: there's a lot of chaos going on to your point,

1384
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:25,799
Speaker 13: the fog.

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: Of the news reporting and support.

1386
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 13: But there's plenty of videos, there's plenty of facts, there's

1387
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 13: plenty of court cases. The one I mentioned in South

1388
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 13: Carolina is file a lawsuit against the government.

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Speaker 1: There you go again, we think twice, you know.

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: See, now the ultimately if there was a law broken

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: in connection with that, law enforcement officers picking that guy up,

1392
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 2: picking on him. Whatever, that man's going to have his

1393
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: day in court, and you got to wait for it.

1394
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: You can't draw a conclusion right now and say it

1395
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: is this way or that way. It was right, it

1396
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 2: was wrong. Neither you nor I really are fully aware.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: We weren't there at the time. We don't know was

1398
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 2: that guy being accosted because of the color of his

1399
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: skin or did they have a legitimate reason to pick

1400
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: him up. I don't know. But if they didn't have

1401
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: a legitimate reason, they violated his civil rights. They did

1402
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: abuse a US citizen. Trust me, he'll get paid out.

1403
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to wait for it. Will the money

1404
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: compensate him for the hassle, his reputation, the perhaps online

1405
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: comments about him. I doubt it. But that's the system

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: that we have here. At least you get something, you're

1407
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: allowed to go to court and fight over it. You're

1408
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: allowed to prove your case in front of the tryer

1409
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: of fact, and if you win, you've won. And if

1410
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: you didn't win, maybe there's a legitimate reason why. And

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: we've been confused on what led to the arrest. It's

1412
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: got to wait for it. And so what I'm all

1413
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: about do we have time, Joe, real quick, Matt, thanks

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01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 2: for calling this morning. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Brian, I got a little bit of levity here.

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01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 14: I saw a movie over the weekend that reminded me

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 14: of you and Joe and the show. Yeah, Joe used

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 14: to have a lead in where Jeff Bridges came on

1419
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 14: there and said, I'm the dude. Well listen to this.

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01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 8: Did you hear it?

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I heard it? Big Lebowski, Dude.

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 12: That was an old movie.

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 14: Chuck Connor said it, and he was talking about Gregory

1424
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 14: Peck being the dudes who had a Trumpian moment in

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 14: the movie where he got shot by this Chuck Connors

1426
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 14: and it grazed his head. And this Gregory Peck character

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01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 14: was all about courage and character and.

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01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 12: Character.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks for appreciate that.

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01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: Maybe a different conclusion can be drawn about The Big Lebowski,

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01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: which is where our SoundBite comes from. Maybe the Coen

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: Brothers saw that movie and then decided to incorporate the

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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: reference in their movie. I tend to doubt it, though,

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Speaker 2: but I appreciate the call. I have a great day.

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Speaker 6: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station, Herning.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not firing on all the cylinders.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully I have Christopher Smithman and former vice mayor of

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Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati, running for Cincinni City Council, hopefully

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Speaker 2: victorious in November. Welcome back, my friend. It's time for

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Speaker 2: the smith event, and thank you for taking the weight

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Speaker 2: of the morning show off of my back for a

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Speaker 2: little while.

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Speaker 8: Ryan is always good to come on.

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Speaker 7: I love it.

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Speaker 8: I love your listening audience, and they love you immensely.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm want to start with some joy, you know,

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01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 8: because and I'm not a big sports person, but you know,

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Speaker 8: elder beat Moler.

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Speaker 2: You were talking to me at the Bengals game.

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Speaker 8: No, no, it is an amazing that high school football

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01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 8: brother is driving our market. Is not the Bengals, It's

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Speaker 8: not red right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's that age word hope. At least with high

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Speaker 2: school football, regardless of which team you're reading for, you

1478
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Speaker 2: have some measure of.

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Speaker 8: Hope exactly exactly. But you know, they won their their

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Speaker 8: GCL championship, which is a big deal. So I know

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Speaker 8: they're going to as a students are showing up today

1482
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 8: there if that's their super Bowl. They're fired up, and

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Speaker 8: I think it's a good thing to mention their coach,

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Speaker 8: coach Ramsey, and their principal, Principal Roughing. So congratulations to

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Speaker 8: elder and and and each more success for the rest

1486
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Speaker 8: of the three games of the season they have left.

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Speaker 8: But I think it's important to say that because people

1488
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 8: are walking around with their heads down a little bit

1489
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 8: thinking about the Bengals and thinking about the Reds as examples.

1490
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Speaker 8: But we had a there was a great game, and

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Speaker 8: you know, my hat's off to those those young people.

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Speaker 8: And you know, at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 8: we sometimes are wondering where's the hope, you know, what's

1494
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 8: going on with our kids and all the chaoses out there.

1495
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 8: So it's also nice to highlight, you know, young people

1496
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 8: doing the right thing at the right time, with the

1497
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 8: right attitude. So congratulations to them now, little brother. Absolutely no, Look, brother,

1498
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 8: I have been doing a lot of door to door work,

1499
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 8: as you can imagine, right, and I can tell you

1500
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter what neighborhood I'm in. I've never seen

1501
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 8: anything like what I'm talking about this morning, whether it

1502
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 8: is in Bond Hill or Roselawn, or whether I'm in

1503
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 8: Price Hill, whether I'm in Hyde Park or Outlookout, whether

1504
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 8: I'm in Spring Growth. I'm telling you here's the message.

1505
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 8: We are concerned about crime in our neighborhood, and city

1506
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,520
Speaker 8: Hall is disconnected from our reality.

1507
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: That's what you're hearing. That's what you're hearing from the

1508
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: people on the after you knock on their door, and

1509
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: that's what they're telling you. That's a consistent message from

1510
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: regardless of what neighbors.

1511
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 8: That's right, sir, And I'm saying black, white, young, are

1512
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 8: old Latino. This is what they're saying. Like they lead

1513
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 8: with it, Smithaman, what are you going to do about crime?

1514
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 8: Crime is the number one issue I'm concerned some neighbors.

1515
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 8: Some people will say, Man, I don't feel safe going downtown.

1516
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 8: So they say it all kinds of different ways, but.

1517
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 4: They lead with that.

1518
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 8: And so when you have a mayor that keeps saying

1519
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 8: we're safe, we're safe, We're safe, it's your perception, not

1520
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 8: your reality. Crime is going down again. There is this

1521
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 8: big disconnected You've been talking about it all year because

1522
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 8: the reality of it is. We know that violent crime

1523
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 8: is up and people are very concerned about their safety.

1524
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 8: I was doing a door to door in Roseland on Saturday.

1525
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 8: So here I see a police police cruisers. I see

1526
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 8: the tape. This is no exaggeration. I go to the

1527
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 8: officer or the detective. He says, former Vice mayor, there's

1528
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 8: a dead body in there. Young man got shot. He's

1529
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 8: in the stairwell right now, dead. And I'm there in

1530
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 8: Roseline dropping literature. And this is two blocks down from

1531
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 8: Reverend Damon Lynch's church in Roseland. And this particular, this

1532
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 8: particular location, Brian has had at least three shootings in

1533
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 8: there this year, meaning this is a very active location.

1534
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 8: Obviously a very poor landlord, and clearly city Hall has

1535
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 8: their eye off the ball because it's a menace to

1536
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 8: a really nice neighborhood called Roseline. My point is that

1537
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 8: that's me just walking around. And so every neighbor who

1538
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 8: talked to me as I went door to door, because

1539
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 8: they heard the sirens, they knew that something bad had happened.

1540
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 8: That's what they were talking about, which makes sense. And

1541
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 8: so my message to city Hall, or my message to

1542
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 8: those who are running like Corey Bowman, who I am

1543
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 8: supporting because he has an upcoming debate this week. Is

1544
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 8: focused on what citizens are talking about, not what the

1545
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 8: mayor is talking about. Citizens want to know how are

1546
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 8: we going to deal with crime for them? That includes

1547
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 8: supporting our police. I didn't have one African American voter

1548
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 8: now a key, not one African American voter tell me

1549
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 8: they don't want the police. They didn't say I want

1550
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 8: to defund the police. I want to reimagine the police.

1551
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 8: They said, Smitherman, we got to support our police. We

1552
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 8: need more police. I don't feel safe. And it didn't

1553
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 8: matter whether I was talking to an African American citizen

1554
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati or whether I was talking to a white citizen.

1555
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 8: So that is where they are. And this notion that

1556
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 8: African Americans don't want cops or don't support the police.

1557
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 8: I'm letting you know, I'm going door to door. It

1558
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,879
Speaker 8: is absolutely a lie. What we have our loud voices,

1559
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 8: voices out there that are making people think that that's

1560
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 8: where African Americans are, and it's not where African American

1561
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 8: voters are. And I'm going to suggest it's not where

1562
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 8: the super super super majority of the African American community

1563
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 8: is we want good policing. They believe we have good policing.

1564
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 8: What they now want is the police.

1565
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: I love that message and I'm glad to hear it,

1566
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: and that just confirms what I suspected all along. Obviously

1567
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: you didn't knock on Iris Rollie's front door. Let's continue

1568
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 2: with Christopher Smith Amen coming up quick plumb type plumbing?

1569
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 2: Is plumbing done right? I've been pressed. It's seven point

1570
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 2: thirty three year fifty five. Care see the dark station.

1571
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Were a little along the last second with Christopher Smith

1572
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 2: Amen doing the Smith event. But that's okay. We're going

1573
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 2: to continue now, let's go Christopher. What else is on

1574
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: your mind?

1575
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: Look?

1576
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 8: Brother, we have an election. Early voting starts tomorrow today.

1577
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,520
Speaker 8: It's the last day to register to vote to participate

1578
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 8: in that election. And I think it's important to underschool

1579
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 8: or that you should not vote for nine people when

1580
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 8: voting for city council. There are still thousands and thousands

1581
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 8: of voters out there, no matter what neighborhood we canvassed

1582
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 8: who do not understand how the nine X system works

1583
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati. And so if you want to flip council,

1584
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 8: you want to vote for those four or five people

1585
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 8: that you want to see get it, get elected and stop.

1586
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 8: Don't vote for anybody else. You're only voting for those

1587
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 8: people you want to win, So don't fill out nine slops.

1588
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 8: If you do that, you're doing nothing but deluting your ballot.

1589
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 8: So that is very very important. I like Linda Matthews,

1590
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 8: Keating Good and Smitherman, but somebody else might like something else.

1591
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 8: But it still doesn't have you go beyond four or

1592
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 8: five people that are running for city councilor if this

1593
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 8: is critical because if they're nine members of council, Brian,

1594
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 8: and if Cincinnati can get control of that body, that

1595
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 8: is another check to the mayor, meaning the mayor cannot

1596
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 8: do these wild initiatives without the consent of council. And

1597
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 8: so what you're trying to do is get a majority

1598
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 8: of council members that support our police. That's if you're

1599
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 8: in your mind you support the police. How could you

1600
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 8: vote for the current council members who are defunders, who

1601
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 8: are reimaginers, who are hiring consultants that are undermining law

1602
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 8: enforcement every other day? Why would you then cast votes

1603
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 8: for that collective body. So you're looking out there for

1604
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 8: new people that can come in and make a sizable

1605
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 8: change to move a direction that we are currently not

1606
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 8: in in a different direction. And then, of course Corey

1607
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 8: Bowman who's running for mayor, and as I walked in,

1608
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 8: I want to state this case for him. Look when

1609
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 8: he has this debate this week, I know that this

1610
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 8: mayor is going to start talking about who his brother is.

1611
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 8: I don't know who the mayor's brother is. I know

1612
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 8: who his mom and dad is. It's none of my

1613
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 8: business and it doesn't matter in the race, but that's

1614
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 8: a deflection for the mayor. If the mayor starts going

1615
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 8: down that road, it's because he doesn't want to talk

1616
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 8: about crime public he doesn't want to talk about roads.

1617
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 8: He doesn't want to talk about picking up snow and

1618
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 8: how horrible it was for all of us. I couldn't

1619
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 8: get my daughter to Seaton, not because the main roads

1620
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 8: weren't clear, it's because our side roads weren't touched, and

1621
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,879
Speaker 8: so many other people experience that, whether it's a pothole

1622
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 8: of getting our garbage up. My bottom line to that

1623
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 8: is watch how the mayor this week's pivots to these

1624
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 8: things that don't matter, like who Christopher smither Man's brother is.

1625
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 8: My brother is herb Smitherman or James or Albert or

1626
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 8: Joe who cares? It doesn't matter. Focus on what's going

1627
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 8: to make the Cincinnati residents their life better and want

1628
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 8: to make that case as people are going in. Brian Thomas,

1629
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 8: I think is one of the most important elections we've

1630
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 8: had in a long time, just based on what we

1631
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 8: see happening with crime, how law enforcement is being treated.

1632
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 8: I spoke to officers. They are humiliated out here. They're

1633
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 8: morale Your sister, bless her soul. Bless her. She is

1634
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 8: a retired Cincinnati police officer. She absolutely understands morale is

1635
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 8: absolutely low. We've got to elect people who are going

1636
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 8: to support cops to go out there do proactive policing.

1637
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 8: This doesn't mean, Brian, that we're not going to support

1638
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 8: the collaborative Agreement or we're not going to do community

1639
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 8: based policing. These two things can happen at the same time.

1640
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 8: But I want cops walking up to you in downtown

1641
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 8: saying why are you here? If there's not a reason

1642
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 8: I'm detaining you and I'm taking you to another location.

1643
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna let you just run around and destroy

1644
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 8: our core, our destroy parts of Clifton are destroy parts

1645
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 8: of High Park, and so we've got to We've got

1646
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,560
Speaker 8: to elect people that are willing to stand up to

1647
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 8: these people, these bullies. And right now I think the

1648
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 8: mayor has been acting like a bully and he has

1649
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 8: nine members of council who just do exactly what he says.

1650
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: We'll bring Christopher smith Event back for one more seven

1651
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: thirty seven right now fifty five seven one fifty five

1652
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Karrosite talk station. Another segment with former vice mayor of

1653
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati, soon to be counselmen again, Christopher Smithman.

1654
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: Vote Smithmen in November and only a couple more of

1655
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 2: Smithman plus a couple more don't vote all nine. That

1656
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: said Christopher at the outset sound advice if you want

1657
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 2: to flip a counsel and go in the right direction.

1658
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman, what else is on your mind this morning?

1659
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 8: This this government shut down, elephant in the room. You know,

1660
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 8: this is why so many people are defecting from parties

1661
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,799
Speaker 8: and they're moving and declaring that they're an independent because

1662
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 8: of this lack of compromise, lack of leadership. Sometimes that

1663
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 8: both on both sides. But what I will share here

1664
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 8: in this situation. This is just bad politics for the

1665
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 8: Democratic Party right here, and I hope that they understand that.

1666
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 8: As I go door to door, I can't tell you

1667
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 8: the number of people that said to me, I used

1668
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 8: to be a Democrat. I am no longer that because

1669
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 8: the party left me. I promise you I am not

1670
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 8: exaggerating when I tell you that. So there are a

1671
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 8: lot of people that are very concerned about the condition

1672
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 8: of their party. They don't like this conversation about defunding police,

1673
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 8: and they don't like this discussion about shutting down the government.

1674
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 8: And many of them believe that this is Senator Schumer

1675
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,520
Speaker 8: who is attempting to not be flanked in the primary

1676
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 8: by the AOC, meaning this is about his political career,

1677
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 8: not about the country. And so they act as if

1678
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 8: we're dumb. I mean, the elected sometimes often act as

1679
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 8: if we don't understand what's really going going on out there.

1680
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 8: We absolutely do understand what's going on out there. And

1681
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 8: once you know, I'm a financial planner, right now, the

1682
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 8: market isn't taking it serious. Once the market starts taking

1683
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 8: this thing serious, there are going to be differences and

1684
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 8: how the market starts to react to what's happening here,

1685
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 8: So the window is closing on opening up our government

1686
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 8: and things like our tsa you know being meaning you know,

1687
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 8: if there's a if there is some type of crisis,

1688
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 8: Brian Thomas in the middle of all of this, and

1689
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 8: I'm not calling for that. I don't even want to

1690
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 8: even say it out loud. This will be absolutely devastating

1691
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 8: to the Democratic Party. So they've got to come to

1692
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 8: the table and if if the if the block is

1693
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 8: we meaning this country is saying, are many of the

1694
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 8: Republicans on the other side who are currently controlling the Congress,

1695
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 8: and the and the and the Senate are saying, Look,

1696
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 8: I want you to reassure me that anybody who came

1697
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 8: to this country illegally, that we're not going to provide

1698
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 8: healthcare benefits that we should be providing for Americans and

1699
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 8: veterans and poor people no matter where they are. We're

1700
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 8: not going to give those benefits to anybody who's here

1701
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 8: in our country illegally. Why not just explicitly say that

1702
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 8: they think we're dumb, meaning at the end of the day,

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01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 8: if you're saying that's not what this is about, then

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01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 8: just explicitly say.

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01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know they can't Christopher, their Continuing Resolution version

1706
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,879
Speaker 2: which does it deletes the one Big Beautiful Bill provision,

1707
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 2: which especially prohibits illegal immigrants from getting his aid. It

1708
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: says it in black and white if you read, and

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01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 2: it's very difficult reading because all legislation like this is

1710
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: but if you've got all the resource material and the

1711
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 2: reference material all stacked up together, that's what it boils

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01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 2: down to, period. And they can't argue anything in the contrary.

1713
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 2: That's why you don't hear them rejecting that notion, because

1714
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 2: it literally what they want literally does just that.

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Speaker 15: And you know the.

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Speaker 8: Agree with you.

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01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you.

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01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 8: I'm saying in negotiations, I want Democrats, Republicans and independence

1719
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 8: to just think about this if that if the Democrats

1720
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 8: are saying, that's not what it's about, and the Republicans

1721
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 8: are saying that's not what it's about, Okay, I'm saying.

1722
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 8: If I'm on the Democratic side, what I say is

1723
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 8: I'm going to take that away from you by just

1724
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 8: making sure I say clearly I re emphasize in lighting

1725
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 8: that none of these dollars are going to go see

1726
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 8: anyone who is coming to the country illegally, and we

1727
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 8: open up the government. You and I both know that

1728
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 8: that's not the truth. Their agenda is just the opposite

1729
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 8: of what you and I are discussing, right.

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01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 2: And so they're shutting down the American government. That serves well,

1731
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 2: just work with me and don't start arguing me. That

1732
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 2: doesn't serve us, But I get your point, but serves

1733
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: all American people. They're shutting it down over the extension

1734
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: of healthcare benefits for I think only roughly one point

1735
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: five million people are impacted by this, this four hundred

1736
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 2: percent of income cap that was in the original legislation

1737
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 2: that they only got rid of because of COVID, which

1738
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore. That the original provision ended at the

1739
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 2: end of this year under the Democrat's own hand. When

1740
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 2: they wrote at the outset, they knew this day was coming,

1741
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: but they figured, we get used to these incentives, these

1742
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 2: tax right off things that basically have the American taxpayer

1743
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: covering the cost of the premiums for everybody that's on it.

1744
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: They wrote that into the equation. Now it's the chickens

1745
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 2: have come home to Ruiz. People got used to that

1746
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 2: and see that it's disappearing. It would have disappeared anyway,

1747
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 2: I mean, so.

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Speaker 8: They can't. We can't pay for all of this.

1749
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 2: No, we can't.

1750
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 8: What I'm what I'm paying in federal taxes is insane. Right,

1751
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 8: we can't cover all of this public. This is not

1752
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 8: about whether we're we don't have a heart or not.

1753
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 8: Lots of people have hearts. That's why they're charities out here.

1754
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 8: They give money to charities. But the United States of

1755
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 8: America has to look out for its own citizens, and

1756
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 8: that's what we're having this discussion about. We have veterans

1757
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 8: that are homeless, that have fought in wars, lost the

1758
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 8: leg and they're out there sleeping in a tent in

1759
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 8: your community. They're not getting the benefits that they need.

1760
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 8: But we're talking about providing benefits for others who are

1761
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 8: who have jumped the fence, jumped the line. See what

1762
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 8: they try to do is make you and I and

1763
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 8: others think like we're not for legal immigration, and they

1764
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 8: try to call us racist, our uncle Tom's or people

1765
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 8: that are not connected You and I and others. All

1766
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 8: of us support legal immigration. Most people, if not all

1767
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 8: of us in this country came from somewhere else other

1768
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 8: no matter what the circumstance was. We support legal and

1769
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 8: those people that are in the country legally, who are citizens.

1770
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 8: This has no impact on them. The discussion we're having is,

1771
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 8: if you jump the fence, you jumped over the line,

1772
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 8: and now you're here. Why do we have a party

1773
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 8: that seems to be focusing on protecting criminals, protecting people

1774
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 8: that are here illegally. And that's when I knock on doors,

1775
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 8: and so many Independents and Democrats are telling me their

1776
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 8: party has left them. Brian Thomas, I didn't leave my party.

1777
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 8: They left me. And I'm not understanding their direction that

1778
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 8: they are going in. I'm not getting all of this

1779
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 8: because every time they turn the TV on you and

1780
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 8: I see and it sounds like their language is we're

1781
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 8: protecting criminals, We're putting them first, not those of law

1782
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,640
Speaker 8: by the law abiding citizens. And they're talking about providing

1783
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 8: health care benefits for those who come to the country illegally,

1784
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 8: when we have so many Americans that don't have health

1785
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 8: care themselves.

1786
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Amen, preaching the gospel there, Christopher Smithlan as always a

1787
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 2: couple of people chiming in how much they enjoy your

1788
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 2: logic and reason as you were speaking this morning, and

1789
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 2: I thoroughly agree.

1790
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I love you, brother, love I appreciate you so much.

1791
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: Brian's going to impact the stoff nor what will it

1792
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 2: impact social security? Will it impact Snap and Wick benefits?

1793
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 2: Brian James on that, followed by a judge Christopher McDowell.

1794
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 2: He's going to show up in the studio to let

1795
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 2: you know about the Shenanigans declaration made against the Clerk

1796
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: of Courts to me at listener to lunch of Jim

1797
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 2: and Jacks Weal, good guy, he's only been on the

1798
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 2: bench a short period of time. But we'll hear what

1799
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 2: that is coming up at eight thirty the meantime. I'm

1800
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 2: not sure if it's true, but on the heels of

1801
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 2: Christopher Smithman talking about the well the residents of the

1802
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati being very concerned about crime, apparently none

1803
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: of them talked about climate change. And I hope this

1804
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 2: is accurate. I'm going to read it because I trust

1805
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 2: the source. Laura, appreciate you forwarding the tweet. The post

1806
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: and it's attributed to aftab for mayor where he was

1807
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: at Avondal Town Center and this is what he posted.

1808
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's accurate. Someone out there who received this

1809
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: may be able to confirm or deny quote. Climate change

1810
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 2: hurts everyone, but it hurts our black and brown communities

1811
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 2: the most. Pause for a moment, you go ahead and

1812
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: decide whether you believe that to be true or not. Anyway,

1813
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 2: he goes on, that's why local leaders need to step

1814
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 2: up and confront systemic racism. We here in Cincinnati are

1815
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 2: proud to be the first city you know how to

1816
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 2: pass comprehensive zoning reform connected communities, I interjected that legalize

1817
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: housing is housing illegal? I suppose only if there are

1818
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 2: regulations that micromanage whether or not there could be housing

1819
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: in any given neighborhood. Talk to Corey Bowman about that.

1820
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: Apparently there are significant impediments to well building what you'll

1821
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 2: want to build in any given neighborhood in the city

1822
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, A problem that wouldn't exist if there weren't

1823
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 2: so many heavy handed regulations from the City of Cincinnati, like, oh,

1824
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 2: I don't know connected communities for example. Anyway, So past

1825
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 2: comprehensive zoning reform, he says HM legalizing housing, increasing density

1826
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: in other words, no single family home for you. You

1827
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 2: must live in an apartment my interpretation. Expanding public transportation,

1828
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 2: this is just the beginning.

1829
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Now.

1830
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 2: Among the things that have to have pur of all

1831
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 2: believed to be prominent in the hearts and minds of

1832
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 2: the residents of the city of Cincinnati, as evidenced by

1833
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 2: this text. AH contrast that with what Christopher Smithman is

1834
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 2: hearing with his own ears as he walks around the

1835
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 2: various communities, And there are a variety of different ones

1836
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 2: in the city of Cincinnati. Everyone seems to be worried

1837
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 2: about crime, and I imagine some of them may be

1838
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 2: commented on infrastructure problems as well. We have a priority

1839
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 2: problem that can be addressed. It can be you just

1840
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 2: have to think a different way and trust that maybe

1841
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: a different direction for the city in November will help.

1842
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 2: Right now, you know what you're getting. Are you happy

1843
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 2: with it? If you're unhappy with the current administration, is

1844
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 2: it so bad that you say, well, hell, I'm going

1845
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:02,000
Speaker 2: to take a flyer and give Corey Bowman shot. What

1846
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 2: has Corey Bowman's suggested in terms of the direction of

1847
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati that you find specifically erroneous, wrong

1848
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: or offensive. I'm trying to be objective about this. You

1849
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 2: know how I feel about the priorities of aftab parvol

1850
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 2: I disagree if his priorities were crime and infrastructure, I'd

1851
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 2: be encouraging you to vote for him if he was

1852
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 2: delivering on that. Help have to have purvol continue delivering

1853
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 2: on crime and infrastructure. But that's not what he's running on.

1854
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: In fact, as Christopher pointed out, as you and I

1855
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: both know, he's trying to convince you that you don't

1856
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 2: believe your own eyes or your own ears, and that

1857
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 2: you need to think about climate change. Huh. One big

1858
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 2: world we live in. We're all breathing the same air,

1859
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 2: and we breathe what China belches out into the world

1860
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: every single day. Think about that in the context of

1861
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 2: can the city of Cincinnati really impact climate change with

1862
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 2: its dense housing? No, of course not seven fifty six

1863
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 2: Right now, if you have KCIT Talks Station Money Money

1864
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 2: with Brian James X follow by Judge Christopher mcdall at

1865
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: eight thirty, I hope you can stick around today.

1866
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 5: It's tough head.

1867
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 11: I need to know that weather in traffic.

1868
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Speaker 3: Listen and you'll know.

1869
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Speaker 2: On fifty five KRS the talk station eight'll five the

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01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 2: fifty five kr ce DE Talk station, Happy Monday, Thanks

1871
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 2: to all we're financial for loaning al Brian James Talk

1872
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 2: Money matters. It's time for Money Monday with Brian James.

1873
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Brian, Hope you had a wonderful weekend. Just

1874
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:27,839
Speaker 2: ignore the Bengals.

1875
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1876
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 16: We usually start with sports only, but I'm lost. I'm

1877
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 16: just kind of wander I don't know what. How do

1878
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 16: we kick this off here today?

1879
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1880
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Did you have any did you have any hope with

1881
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 2: the so called late game rally? I mean, oh my god,

1882
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals just got a touchdown. They're gonna think they

1883
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 2: had like three minutes left in the game. My wife

1884
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 2: looked at me, she goes like, they're gonna be able

1885
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 2: to come back from this.

1886
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 17: Wow, the Bengals have figured out to prevent defense and

1887
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 17: we're able to score twice when they were down by

1888
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 17: four scores.

1889
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, somehow that's not exciting.

1890
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 2: And thank god the opposing team does commit some penalties

1891
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: resulting in or nearing to our benefit. Otherwise, you know,

1892
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 2: you don't even have a glimmer anyway, Brian James.

1893
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Who day?

1894
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 16: Brian, who Day? Is what we're really trying to say here.

1895
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: It is it is all right now. I'm looking at

1896
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 2: the staw at the front of the Wall Street Jonal

1897
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 2: right now, Dal Jones futures up a scoch s and

1898
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 2: p up a scosh. Nasdaq futures up a scosh. Looks

1899
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: like everybody's ignoring the government shutdown. I guess it doesn't

1900
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 2: impact the stock market, or does it?

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01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 17: Brian James, Well, and any headline like that is you

1902
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 17: can't say it doesn't have an impact, because these are

1903
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 17: things that do trickle down eventually, but these aren't immediate impact.

1904
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 17: We've had shutdowns shutdowns before.

1905
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 2: This is not a new thing.

1906
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 17: It's just a it's a temper tantrum that happens pretty regularly,

1907
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,600
Speaker 17: like clockwork. Once we get in certain political situations. We

1908
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 17: got to run the football back and forth. But no,

1909
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 17: this is not something we're overly concerned about having a

1910
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 17: major major impact on the overall government, so that the

1911
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 17: overall stock market rather. The longest shutdown we ever had

1912
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 17: was in twenty eighteen, and that lasted about thirty five days.

1913
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 17: The rest of them average about five to seven days,

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Speaker 17: So who knows where we're going to be. We're already

1915
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Speaker 17: several days into this one, and there doesn't seem to

1916
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:03,560
Speaker 17: be any much willingness to come to the table. But

1917
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 17: it does not benefit anyone to permanently shut down the government.

1918
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 17: That doesn't help either side, no matter what.

1919
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 16: Where, which aslier or which side of the asl you're on.

1920
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 17: But so the anticipation is that eventually we're going to

1921
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,919
Speaker 17: sort ourselves out and come to some kind of begrudging

1922
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 17: agreement and move on with our lives.

1923
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Speaker 2: Well, I've seen the cost of the government shutdown translated

1924
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 2: into like impact on the economy that grow GDP like

1925
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 2: fifteen billion dollars a week. I mean, part of me

1926
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 2: wants to suggest that I did earlier in the program

1927
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 2: that well, you know, there's the make work that the

1928
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 2: government creates. In other words, you know, they they create

1929
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 2: opportunities and create new businesses from a whole cloth. I mean,

1930
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, tell people you have to capture carbon, and

1931
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,879
Speaker 2: next thing you know, there's a whole bunch of businesses

1932
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 2: popping up that are serving the purpose of capturing carbon,

1933
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 2: which wasn't even an issue five minutes prior. So they

1934
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: do impact what we do and how we live our lives.

1935
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 2: Brian I was arguing about the tax code, how many

1936
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 2: accountants are employed because the tax coat is so blank

1937
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: and complicated.

1938
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 17: It was three presidential elections ago on that specific topic,

1939
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:07,439
Speaker 17: I believe that we were all going to be doing

1940
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 17: them on index cards.

1941
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 16: He did kind of go away.

1942
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 6: It did.

1943
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 17: The Into It lobby had an awful lot to do

1944
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 17: with that. Into It being the company behind TurboTax.

1945
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 2: There you go and an entire multi multi Can you

1946
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 2: imagine how much impact of the gross domestic product if

1947
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 2: you got rid of accountants and the need for them

1948
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: because you well turned the tax code into something that's

1949
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 2: easy to do by yourself without any assistance. They can't

1950
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: do that. Oh my god, we all die.

1951
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 17: The federal government is the largest customer of everybody's business

1952
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 17: on the face of the earth. It simply is, there's

1953
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 17: just that much money that circulates through the United States

1954
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 17: federal government. So yes, as these as we slow things down,

1955
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 17: then you know, we have a lot of people who

1956
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 17: are now unemployed because the departments were shut down. Some

1957
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 17: of them are coming back to work because courts are

1958
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 17: ruling that they shouldn't have been unemployed in the first place.

1959
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 17: I'm referring, of course, the federal workers here just during

1960
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 17: this year as we've.

1961
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 16: Shut things down. So yeah, there's definitely an impact there.

1962
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 17: And so this government shutdown started on October first, and

1963
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 17: it has already silenced that most consequential release of this month,

1964
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 17: that is the September Employment report. So if this lasts

1965
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 17: for three more weeks, the September CPI inflation numbers are

1966
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 17: also going to have to be withheld, and the October

1967
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 17: labor survey is not going to get announced either, because

1968
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 17: we don't do these things anymore during a shutdown. So

1969
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 17: we're thinking this is pretty much transitory. We've been through

1970
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 17: this before, and prior episodes of shutdowns suggest that these

1971
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 17: furloughed workers will come back with back pay, so that

1972
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 17: is what has happened in the past.

1973
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 16: So you're exactly correct.

1974
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 17: A call out if we're not doing things and that

1975
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 17: means money is not circulating the way it normally does.

1976
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 2: That is absolutely true.

1977
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 17: But historically speaking, we've brought these workers back and given

1978
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 17: them their backpay, so that should settle itself out well.

1979
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 2: And you know, I know the blame game is being pointed,

1980
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,680
Speaker 2: and I think at least in so far as US

1981
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 2: keeping continuing funding levels from last year's budget levels, those

1982
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 2: were the Democrats numbers, that seems to be the right

1983
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 2: step for the Republicans. Dude, We're giving you everything you

1984
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 2: wanted last year, and we're going to continue that until

1985
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 2: and here's my problem, we finish up the twelve appropriations bill.

1986
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 2: So both sides are blamed because they don't do their

1987
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 2: damn job. They haven't done the twelve appropriations bills since

1988
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety seven or something crazy like that, so

1989
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, damn all of them.

1990
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 17: Yeah, I completely agree. I think I think we've just

1991
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 17: had a point of just just absolute dysfunction. The necessity

1992
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 17: of moving forward will force a break at some point.

1993
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 17: Somebody's going to have to blink, because this is just

1994
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 17: one gigantic game of chicken. We can't shut down the

1995
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,599
Speaker 17: federal government for months upon months or years upon years.

1996
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 17: It simply isn't going to work that way, and it's

1997
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 17: going to hurt everyone, which means nobody gets reelected.

1998
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 16: That's what we're doing right now.

1999
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 17: I think we're in the phase of this where we

2000
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 17: have to fight fight, fight, fight, fight so that and

2001
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 17: give no ground whatsoever so that we will get reelected.

2002
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 17: We haven't hit the point yet where voters demand, hey,

2003
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 17: get together and sort this stuff out so we can

2004
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:49,600
Speaker 17: all move on with our lives. Right now, everybody is

2005
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 17: simply posturing themselves for their own reelections.

2006
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 2: Well, and going back to the word, eventually, the markets

2007
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 2: will eventually start to react to this shutdown. Obviously it

2008
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 2: hasn't happened yet. I don't know what they're going to

2009
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,919
Speaker 2: do this week. But assuming for the sake of discussion,

2010
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: we have to look back to that longest government shutdown period.

2011
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 2: How long did it take, if you recall, for the

2012
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 2: markets to actually reflect the shutdown in the numbers.

2013
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 17: So it really wasn't that big of a deal in

2014
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 17: back in twenty eighteen when the federal government shut down

2015
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 17: for just a few weeks, well thirty five days or

2016
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 17: so it was. So that was the longest one in history,

2017
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 17: and it did have a real impact, but it was

2018
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 17: pretty temporary. So the shutdown started December twenty second of

2019
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 17: eighteen and ended January twenty fifth of nineteen, and this

2020
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 17: was over we were already in a broader market sell

2021
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 17: off that was happening due to trade tensions and federal

2022
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 17: rate hikes in December of twenty eighteen. That month, the

2023
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 17: S and P five hundred had dropped nearly ten percent,

2024
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 17: and that was the worst December since the Great Depression

2025
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 17: at that time.

2026
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 16: But that was before the actual shutdown, right, So.

2027
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 17: By late January of twenty nineteen when it was over,

2028
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,600
Speaker 17: the market had come back sharply. The S and P

2029
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 17: five hundred rebounded about eight percent within two weeks, and

2030
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 17: it just looked more It looked at that time more

2031
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 17: like a temporary market get swing, where we always talk

2032
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 17: about the market can handle bad news.

2033
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 2: It loves good news.

2034
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 17: What it can't handle, what it absolutely hates is no news.

2035
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 17: So while we're wondering exactly what's going on, the market

2036
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 17: will wander and money will find its way to less

2037
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 17: risky assets until we can tell exactly what's coming, until

2038
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 17: we can kind of see through the fog.

2039
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: A little bit.

2040
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 2: So once the government shutdowns over that quote unquote threat

2041
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 2: to the economy is alleviated and things returned to normal.

2042
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Once the government opens back up under the twenty nineteen law,

2043
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: every federal employee is going to get their back pay.

2044
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 2: They're not going to be deprived to pay. So that's

2045
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 2: over with. When we reflect back on all the government

2046
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: shutdowns that we've lived through, and even knows that we

2047
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 2: haven't personally lived through, we see that the world did

2048
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 2: not end and everything kind of came back to status quo.

2049
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 2: So there's no I mean to the average my average listener,

2050
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,799
Speaker 2: they're like, screw it. I don't care that the government

2051
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 2: shut down because it always goes back to the way

2052
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 2: it was beforehand and nobody ultimately gets hurt.

2053
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, and I am your average listener. I am my

2054
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 16: own client.

2055
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 17: And that's the way I think about my own family

2056
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 17: and my own dollars. There's nothing going on in the

2057
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 17: headlines right now that causes me to say, you know what,

2058
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 17: I really need to go deal with my portfolio or

2059
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 17: do something different change my financial life around that. That's

2060
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 17: just not the case. This is no fun to go through,

2061
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,520
Speaker 17: and it's gonna hurt. There's no way, there's no sacrifice

2062
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 17: that's going to be made. So, for example, in that year,

2063
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,799
Speaker 17: the estimate is that by federal workers missing those paychecks,

2064
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 17: even though they got backpay, that still pulled about about

2065
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 17: eleven billion dollars out of the GDP that quarter, but

2066
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 17: about about eight billion of it was recovered when those

2067
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 17: paychecks finally went out again, meaning the net loss was

2068
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 17: three billion dollars worth of economic activity. That is nothing

2069
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,640
Speaker 17: when we talk about trillions. So I'm not holding my

2070
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:37,919
Speaker 17: breath that there's really gonna.

2071
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 16: Be anything all that momentous. Don't run around and change

2072
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 16: your four O one K based on these headlines.

2073
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 2: Well, and I suppose it suggests to politicians who think

2074
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 2: they're going to get some sort of leg up based

2075
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 2: upon the government shutdown being someone else's fault. We don't

2076
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: care enough out here about the government shutdown to make

2077
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,839
Speaker 2: that resonate as a political message. I know it's politics

2078
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 2: brought out money, Brian, but that's kind of what I'm

2079
01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 2: concluding here.

2080
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, I would. I would say that's the case.

2081
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 17: Now this drags on and on and on, then absolutely

2082
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 17: it will start to trickle through.

2083
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 16: That's when people are going to start to notice.

2084
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 17: But right now and then, I think the first people

2085
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 17: place people would see that is in therefore in case,

2086
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 17: because the market would start to say, you know what,

2087
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 17: this has gone on too long.

2088
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,640
Speaker 16: We're going to pull back here a little bit. But

2089
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 16: that is not We're nowhere near that stage right now.

2090
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 2: But we may be near the cost of living adjustment

2091
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: and social security and maybe, just maybe this shutdown may

2092
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 2: have an impact on snapping Wick benefits. Brian's going to

2093
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,759
Speaker 2: answer those two questions in the next segment. Stick around.

2094
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 2: It's just shy of eight fifteen, right, now, and it's

2095
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 2: opportunity for you to mention Wolve Zimmer Heating and Cooling.

2096
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,560
Speaker 2: Who's been the trusted name, Hey Monday with all the

2097
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: financials Brian James financial planner he is, and someone who's

2098
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 2: going to tell about this, tell us about this government

2099
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 2: shutdown is going to impact Social Security, is going to

2100
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: impact SNAP and work benefits. Let's start with Social Security.

2101
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 2: The Social Security recipients are eligible for a nice sizable

2102
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 2: cost of living adjustment. Unlike Joe Strecker, they get one,

2103
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 2: but the Bureau of Labor Statistics has to do some

2104
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 2: number crunching before that can happen. I guess the BLS

2105
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 2: is kind of shut down during the shutdown, so we

2106
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,560
Speaker 2: aren't going to get the stats needed to do a

2107
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 2: cola adjustment.

2108
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, go figure, right, So as soon as we need

2109
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 17: the we need some new numbers here, we don't have

2110
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,559
Speaker 17: them because we did choose to not report them here

2111
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:11,799
Speaker 17: very recently.

2112
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 2: So this is good.

2113
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 17: So this shutdown that began October first, that could delay

2114
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 17: the announcement of the twenty twenty six Social Security cola

2115
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 17: cost of living adjustments that normally happens right in the

2116
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 17: middle of October. And like you said, it's a Bureau

2117
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 17: of Labor Statistics. They were told to suspend data collection

2118
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 17: until we can sort things out, supposedly, and the specifically

2119
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 17: for the September CPI. That's the last piece we needed

2120
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 17: to to finish off that COLA calculation. Now, importantly, I

2121
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 17: want to make sure that that nobody is hearing me

2122
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 17: saying that checks aren't gonna go out.

2123
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 16: That's got anohing no no, no, no, no no no.

2124
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2125
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, very important qualification. You will get your Social Security check.

2126
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 2: It just may not be increased for the cola. But

2127
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 2: how much money? Let's just cut to the chase on

2128
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 2: this one, Brian, because I saw the article that you

2129
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 2: provided in connection with this. You know, I seniors are

2130
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 2: entitled to this. It's going to be delayed. It'll probably

2131
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 2: come up eventually when the government opens back up. But

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01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 2: can you live without maybe fifty four dollars additional money

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01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 2: in your payment each month?

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01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Let's recall that this this wasn't a whopper that was

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01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 17: coming anyway. So analysts had already been projecting about a

2137
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 17: two point seven to two point eight percent increase in

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01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 17: Social Security so it wasn't going to be a huge

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01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:19,559
Speaker 17: change too Now, now, that's a lot for some people.

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01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 17: I don't mean to say that, no, no, no, every

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01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 17: nickel counts. But at the same time, this isn't going

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01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 17: to put somebody on the street instantly. It would be

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01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 17: nice if we could get our stuff together as a

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01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 17: country and figure out exactly how we're going to move

2145
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 17: forward on these things. But I guess we're going to

2146
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 17: go through some convulsions before we get there.

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01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: But fundamentally the check will come a question be how

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01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 2: much it is. So now moving over to some critical

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01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 2: service lease for some folks, the SNAP Supplemental Assistance Program

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01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 2: and WICK benefits. How about these because I know some

2151
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 2: people are suggesting they're not going to go through, but

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01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,759
Speaker 2: in other places I've read now they're going to continue

2153
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: just like this a security Yeah, so there's.

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01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 16: Two different programs happening here.

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01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 17: So there's SNAP and WICK is the one that's more

2156
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 17: at risk because the way it works, so WICK stands

2157
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 17: for women, infants, and children, and that basically is very

2158
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 17: specific to single women and children up to age five.

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01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 17: This is a discretionary program, so this means that it

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01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 17: has to be voted on yearly from Congress to stay funded.

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01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 17: So as soon as the government shuts down, it goes

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01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 17: away immediately. That could run out of funds within one

2163
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 17: or two weeks, according on This is from the that's

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01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 17: from the White House's own budget office. That will affect

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01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 17: food assistants for about six million mothers and young children nationwide. Now,

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01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 17: the other one is SNAP. That's the Supplemental Nutritional Program

2167
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 17: and all the different states. It's federal money, but the

2168
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 17: states administer it. Some states have their own program called

2169
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 17: something else. So, for example, California calls SNAP, CalFresh, Ohio

2170
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 17: simply chooses to call SNAP SNAP to keep it simple.

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01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 17: So October's payments, so these are EBT cards. You see

2172
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 17: signs at the cash register reflecting ebt cards. That's the

2173
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 17: SNAP program. October's payments were already loaded onto those ebt

2174
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 17: debit cards.

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01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 16: So it's not gonna affect this month.

2176
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 17: But if Congress doesn't act soon, then November's SNAP ben

2177
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 17: if fits could be delayed or reduced.

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01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 2: So if you're on.

2179
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 17: WICK, then you might be you might want to start

2180
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 17: paying attention to the headlines here. If you're on SNAP,

2181
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 17: you've got a few more weeks.

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01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 2: Well that's fair enough. So ultimately we don't care. In

2183
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 2: the real world, most people are not going to be

2184
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 2: completely impacted by this, probably won't even realize the government

2185
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 2: shut down until it opens back up again. You're a

2186
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 2: little about your life so the way you went about

2187
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: them before the government shut down.

2188
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 16: So that is a true statement.

2189
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 17: Again again, I'm not seeing anything here that should cause

2190
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 17: somebody out to run out there and go run their

2191
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 17: lives differently, to make different decisions. These are simply headlines

2192
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 17: as we go through, everybody getting their say in Congress,

2193
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 17: and hopefully we will get through this sooner rather than later.

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01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick here in a completely different direction, the

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01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 2: catch up provision of four to one K that changed

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01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 2: this year, didn't it.

2197
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 17: Yeah, So there was a new rule put in place

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01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 17: to allow for more people to put in to put

2199
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 17: in more money.

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01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 16: So there's now the catch up.

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01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 17: The way it always was was anybody over fifty could

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01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 17: put a little more into the program. That's currently an

2203
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 17: extra seventy five hundred dollars if you're over fifty, So

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01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 17: that basically means that you can put in thirty one

2205
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 17: thousand dollars if you're simply over fifty. That's not new,

2206
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 17: that's been there for a while, right, The super catchup

2207
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 17: this is for if you're between ages sixty and sixty three.

2208
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 17: This is a part of Secure Act two point zero

2209
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 17: basically says that you can put in another eleven two

2210
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 17: hundred and fifty dollars on top of it.

2211
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 16: So that's the big change that came through there.

2212
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 2: I've always scratched my head over why there was a

2213
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 2: maximum contribution to four oh one K in the program.

2214
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Is that so they ensure that we continue to spend

2215
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: money in the economy as opposed to socket away for

2216
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: our future.

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01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 16: My best guess on that, Brian, is that, well, I mean,

2218
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 16: I'm just not a guess.

2219
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 17: This is why, because if you're somebody who has that

2220
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 17: much cash flow and there was no limit on it,

2221
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 17: then we would be sheltering billions of dollars, if not

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01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 17: trillions via four oh one K retirement plans. So it's

2223
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 17: there to affect the super wealthy from being able to

2224
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 17: benefit too much from tax planning and starving the government

2225
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 17: of revenue that needs I.

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01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: Think the latter point a little bit more starving the

2227
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 2: government of revenue it thinks it needs. Ah, we are

2228
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 2: financial planner, will tell you to live within your means.

2229
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 2: At least that'd be my guests.

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01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 16: We don't have those at the Federal guide.

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01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 2: Brian James. I had to take a cheap shot at

2232
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 2: the federal government's reckless pending. Brian James. All with financial

2233
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 2: appreciate them leading out you every Monday at this time

2234
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 2: to talk money matters. And of course we know there's

2235
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 2: that secret group of women who'd listen intently every Monday,

2236
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 2: hanging on your words.

2237
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 16: We are going to we are going to do it

2238
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 16: and say we got a listener request.

2239
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 17: We're going to put a segment together on credit unions

2240
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 17: we're interested in and some social Security updates.

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01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 16: So look forward to that in the near future.

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01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 2: They are anxiously awaiting it. And good morning ladies, even

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01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 2: though you do remain anonymous, Brian James. Thanks man. We'll

2244
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 2: talk next month of September eighth of this year, and

2245
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 2: because he was appointed, has to run for reelection next year,

2246
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 2: but we'll see if we can't accomplish that, and of

2247
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 2: course we'll be talking to him about his election next

2248
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 2: year in the calendar year. But in the meantime a

2249
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 2: Shenanigan's declaration. Judge McDowell told me at listener lunch he

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01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 2: was at Jim and Jackson the river not appreciate the

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01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 2: opportunity to meet him and have him come to lunch,

2252
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 2: but it was my concern over what he told me

2253
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 2: at Listener lunch, and we're boiling it down here in

2254
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 2: the morning show Lingo as a Shenanigans declaration before we

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01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 2: get to that, Judge McDowell, it's a pleasure of having

2256
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 2: you here. Oh my god, You and I are basically

2257
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 2: about the same age, at least based upon your legal

2258
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 2: resume and what an impressive career you have. I feel

2259
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: like a piker. You are what I and the litigat.

2260
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 2: I was a litigation attorney. I guess theoretically I still

2261
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 2: am considering. I have my license, but I don't practice anymore.

2262
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 2: You are what we lawyers call a true trial attorney.

2263
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, there's a difference, a huge There's a difference. See,

2264
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 15: I've spent a lot of time in courtrooms, both as

2265
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 15: a prosecutor and as a defense attorney. Also in civil

2266
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 15: cases plaintiff side and defense side. There is a big

2267
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 15: difference between someone who pushes paper and somebody who goes

2268
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 15: into a court room.

2269
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 2: I acknowledge where I was on that side of the

2270
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 2: ledger a paper pusher, but you tried literally hundreds of

2271
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 2: cases successfully. So and of course I want to give

2272
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: you props for serving your country. I know you had

2273
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 2: enlisted when you were seventeen.

2274
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, I did. I grew up in poverty in southern

2275
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 15: West Virginia and the.

2276
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 2: Way that's real prop poverty.

2277
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, it's the kind of poverty where you don't

2278
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 15: have food. And the army was my way out. And

2279
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 15: I enlisted in the Army when I was seventeen. And

2280
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 15: I can tell you everything that I am today is

2281
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 15: because of the opportunities that were afforded to me by

2282
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 15: the United States Army. I went to college on the

2283
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 15: GI Bill, I received an ROTC scholarship, I got an

2284
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 15: educational delay to go to law school, and I got

2285
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 15: all that great trial experience in the army.

2286
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 2: And you did a lot of trial work in the

2287
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 2: army judge advocate general, and you were in court all

2288
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: the time I was.

2289
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 15: I was a military prosecutor in Korea. I was a

2290
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 15: military prosecutor in Stuttgart, Germany, where I was in charge

2291
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 15: of Southern Germany, Northern Africa, the former East Bloc countries.

2292
01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 15: Then I was a defense attorney, and then I was

2293
01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 15: a finished out my time as a senior defense attorney

2294
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 15: at Fort Riley, Kansas. Then I came to Cincinnati and

2295
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 15: I became a partner at Densmore and Shoal, and then

2296
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:09,800
Speaker 15: I was a partner at Straustroy.

2297
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:13,839
Speaker 2: They got you to deflect defect.

2298
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 4: Huh.

2299
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 2: Straus and Troy got you to effect from Dinsmore.

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02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2301
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 2: No, it's impressive that you were a part of both

2302
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 2: of those in a decade at both before being appointed

2303
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 2: by the governor to the Hemilon County Court of Common Please,

2304
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 2: where you do hear criminal cases as well as civil

2305
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 2: But going back to your your time as a judge

2306
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 2: devocate general, this is an illustration of the reality of

2307
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 2: being an America's military. They put twenty somethings behind the

2308
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 2: stick of multi multi million dollar aircraft and equipment. Young

2309
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 2: people are given responsibilities that no response they used the

2310
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 2: word responsible private corporation would give a young person. No

2311
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 2: law firm at age twenty two would allow you to

2312
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 2: go in and try multiple trials. You have to work

2313
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 2: your way up to that role. That's maybe why you

2314
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 2: hit some great success as a consequence of the American military.

2315
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 15: One hundred percent. One of the problems you find in

2316
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 15: litigation today is so few cases go to trial, that

2317
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 15: so few attorneys have that courtroom experience. And in the

2318
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 15: military we were thrown into the crucible right away.

2319
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 2: Well, in a comment you made off air before we started,

2320
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 2: anybody who's practiced law and done courtroom work, you want

2321
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 2: a trial lawyer as opposed to a litigation attorney or

2322
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:31,280
Speaker 2: someone who never was involved with courtroom work. You want

2323
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 2: someone like that on the bench. They've dealt with motions,

2324
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 2: They have been, you know, the attorney advocating on one

2325
02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 2: side or another in front of judges. They know the

2326
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 2: civil rules, they know evidentiary rules. If you put someone

2327
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 2: on who maybe was a tax attorney, you never saw

2328
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 2: time in court, and you appoint them to a judge

2329
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 2: or they're elected as judge, they don't have the necessary

2330
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 2: foundational experience.

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02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:55,760
Speaker 15: That's absolutely correct. And with my resume, I've been both

2332
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 15: a prosecutor and a defense attorney, done both plaintiffs work

2333
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 15: and defense work, so I can see it from all sides,

2334
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 15: and I know when somebody's pulling my leg and when

2335
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 15: it's a real motion.

2336
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm certain of that. And your level of experience,

2337
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 2: there's no way you could have gone that long and

2338
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 2: been so successful without that acquiring that knowledge, so impressive

2339
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 2: background it is and a salute to you for your

2340
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 2: service work to our country, especially on a day as

2341
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 2: we part company here for a moment and come back

2342
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 2: and let him, Judge McDowell do the Shenanigans declaration about

2343
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 2: their Clerk of Courts. It just so happens to be

2344
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 2: World War Two veteran Bob Doolan's anniversary of his death.

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02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 2: Bob Doolan was installog Lo three that was the site

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Speaker 2: of the Great Escape movie with Steve McQueen. I got

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Speaker 2: to interview him here in the studio. I got to

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Speaker 2: have lunch with him. Thank you Steve Murray, who also

2349
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Speaker 2: served his country as a career military man. He was

2350
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Speaker 2: such just a wonderful human being and I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to honor his passing and his service to our country.

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Speaker 2: Bob Doolan passed away this day in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: We're all better people for having been able to know

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Speaker 2: Bob Doolan's eight thirty five right now more with Judge

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Speaker 2: Christopher McDowell Shenanigan's declaration coming up next. Don't go away.

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Speaker 6: This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station with.

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Speaker 2: Judge Christopher McDowell. He is on the Hilton County Court

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Speaker 2: of Common please bench. He was just recently appointed, as

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Speaker 2: indicated in the last segment September eighth when he took

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Speaker 2: the bench. Thanks for on a deployment by Governor Mike DeWine.

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Speaker 2: Will be voting for him next November. Hate to know

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Speaker 2: that there's an election you have to face it within

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Speaker 2: one year being appointed at bench, Sir, I just la oh, well,

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Speaker 2: take what you can get. We're glad you're on the bench,

2365
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 2: especially in these trying times. We can talk a little

2366
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 2: bit about the criminal justice system, crime and punishment and

2367
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 2: maybe bond settings in a little bit, but let's first

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Speaker 2: talk about what you told me at listener lunch at

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Speaker 2: Jim and Jackson. I was obviously very troubled by this,

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Speaker 2: so much so that I said, we've got to get

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Speaker 2: you here on the morning show to talk about it. So,

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Speaker 2: what is going on with the felony murder dock at

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Speaker 2: Judge McDowell.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, let's start off with the concept that the sixth

2375
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Speaker 15: Amendment to the United States Constitution makes our trials public,

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02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:01,280
Speaker 15: and part of them being public is the people need

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02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 15: to know when those cases are going to be heard.

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Speaker 15: Anybody has the right to come and sit in my

2379
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Speaker 15: courtroom and watch what's going on, and that's enshrined in

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Speaker 15: our constitution because of things that were going on in

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Speaker 15: England with the star chambers where people were being tried

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02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 15: in secret. Well, what I discovered about a week and

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02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 15: a half ago is that I had a murder case,

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Speaker 15: an aggravated murder case, in my courtroom, and it was

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Speaker 15: very interesting, but there was no media there. And I

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02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:31,400
Speaker 15: saw one of my go ahead you.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to go into the details. You

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Speaker 2: know the details, and whether you need to offer them

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Speaker 2: or not is immaterial. But I got the impression baseballent

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Speaker 2: you told me it was a particularly heinous felony murder. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it was one that would be very newsworthy. If you

2392
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 2: try to be objective about what's reportable and what's not,

2393
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,879
Speaker 2: or what's newsworthy what's not. This was clearly a newsworthy murder.

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Speaker 15: Right, And I think if you think about all the

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02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 15: murders that happened in this city, and then think in

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Speaker 15: your mind as well, how many times have I heard

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Speaker 15: what happened to those murderers? How many times have I

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Speaker 15: heard the sentences compared to the number of murders, and

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Speaker 15: there's a huge disconnect in my mind much And this

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Speaker 15: is one of the reasons why literally half or over

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Speaker 15: half of the aggravated murders on my docket have been

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Speaker 15: removed from the Clerk of Court's website.

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Speaker 2: By what authority is that, under any circumstances appropriate? And

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02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 2: if so, under what circumstances.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, there are reasons why documents and even cases could

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02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:34,200
Speaker 15: be removed from the public records, but not that I

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02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,480
Speaker 15: can determine in this case. And and each time that

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Speaker 15: that occurs, a judge should have to sign off on it.

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02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 15: So let's say, for example, you have a drug case

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02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 15: and somebody's been arrested and they're working with the police, Well,

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Speaker 15: you want to remove that case from the public records,

2412
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 15: so all these friends don't know he's working with the police.

2413
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 15: And a murderer doesn't work with the police, he's incarcerated.

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02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 15: And this is a case that had gone on for

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02:05:57,600 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 15: over a year and a half, as are all the

2416
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:01,880
Speaker 15: murder cases that are on my DOCA. They've been going

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Speaker 15: on for more than a year, but these cases have

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02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 15: been removed. So if you know the name of the

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02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 15: defendant and you were to go to the Clerk of

2420
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Speaker 15: Court's website put it in, it would not come up.

2421
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 15: If you happen to know the case number and you

2422
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:16,880
Speaker 15: put it in, it would not come up. And so

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02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 15: that is one of the reasons why these cases aren't

2424
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 15: being covered. They've been removed from the public record. The

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Speaker 15: media and the people don't know when these sentencings are occurring.

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Speaker 2: Do we have any judges signing off on the removal

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02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 2: or is this just a blanket removal.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very interesting. So when I started to do

2429
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 15: my investigation into this, one of the older bailiffs in

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02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 15: the courthouse pulled a record for where Tracy Winkler, the

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02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 15: last Republican, was a Clerk of courts, and on that document,

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02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,520
Speaker 15: a judge had to sign off if a document or

2433
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:50,280
Speaker 15: a case was going to be removed from the public

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Speaker 15: docket or the public records.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 15: We've looked at the cases that have been removed from

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02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 15: the Clerk of Court's website and we can find no

2438
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Speaker 15: judge on off so far on any of these cases.

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02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 2: Which leads one to guests that someone is behind the

2440
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Speaker 2: scenes in the Clerker Court's office is unilaterally determined this

2441
02:07:09,080 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 2: should not be on the public's docket or the docket

2442
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:15,640
Speaker 2: I mean somebody there's a looming phase it the clerker

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02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 2: courts himself.

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Speaker 15: Well, the Clerk of Courts is responsible for that. Yeah,

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02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:23,280
Speaker 15: and the buck stops there. In other words, right, And

2446
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 15: also judges need to be looking at this. The thing

2447
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 15: of it is when I look at my docket, when

2448
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 15: I look at I can see all these records, so

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02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:34,200
Speaker 15: I wouldn't know that it has been removed from the

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02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 15: public record.

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02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 2: Because you have to try a case. Obviously you're going

2452
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 2: to be given the information related to it, but you

2453
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 2: have to look at the regular docket to see if

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02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 2: that case that's right literally on your desk is there.

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02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 2: And as you determined in that fellow murder case, the

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02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 2: heinous one, you went over and looked, it's not there.

2457
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 2: You're like, wait, where is.

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02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 15: This on the docket, right, which then calls me to

2459
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:55,360
Speaker 15: tell me. Ask my bailiff look at all the murder

2460
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 15: cases on my docket and see how many of them

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02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 15: have been removed from the Clerk Courts website. And it

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Speaker 15: was over half. And then I went to some other

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02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 15: judges and discovered similar things on their dockets as well.

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Speaker 15: It's very curious.

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Speaker 2: Very curious. But in considering the case where there is

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02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 2: a legitimate basis, you have a drug dealer who's working

2467
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 2: with authorities, they've got suppliers. Clearly you want to get those.

2468
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:21,440
Speaker 2: That person's life could very well be in jeopardy if

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02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 2: it's known that they're in front of you and their

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02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:25,400
Speaker 2: case is going to be tried, their names out there

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02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 2: and you know they're working with police. So there's in

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02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 2: a murder case. Sadly, the victim, which is the one

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02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:34,320
Speaker 2: that would need to be protected, is no longer in

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02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 2: need of protection. They're not going to be threatened, that's right.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, I asked my clerk at the same time

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Speaker 15: because I had the same thought. I said, look at

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02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 15: the rape cases that we have next week and see

2478
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 15: if those rape cases have been removed from the public docket.

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Speaker 15: And they had not.

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Speaker 2: And so they've got a victim there.

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02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 15: There, you have a real victim, and that real victim

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Speaker 15: is those cases have not been removed from the public record.

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02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 15: But just these aggravated murders, so far as I can

2484
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 15: I know so far aggravated murder cases. Now, when I

2485
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:08,320
Speaker 15: talk to other bailiffs in the courthouse, they tell me

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02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:10,680
Speaker 15: they've seen this in some of the renew cases in

2487
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 15: the past, which is the drug cases, which is a

2488
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 15: good reason I potentially remove it there. Another reason might

2489
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:22,160
Speaker 15: be that the police early on in a case they

2490
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:24,160
Speaker 15: have an arrest warrant for somebody and they don't want

2491
02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 15: it to be out in the public that they're out

2492
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 15: looking for somebody. But as soon as they picked that

2493
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 15: person up, the case should be put back on to

2494
02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 15: the public docket.

2495
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, and to be in front of you in a

2496
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 2: case that means it suggests obviously they have been picked up,

2497
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 2: they have been issued a citation, they've probably been through

2498
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 2: a bond hearing already. This is way way beyond the

2499
02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 2: time when this information should be maybe legitimately held from

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Speaker 2: the public.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the case in question was over a year and

2502
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 15: a half old.

2503
02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:57,360
Speaker 2: Judgment mcde am, I right in understanding that the current

2504
02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 2: clerker Courts has been down this road before.

2505
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:03,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, hundred percent. What he was doing before was removing

2506
02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 15: the eviction docket cases. So if you'd been evicted from court,

2507
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 15: he was just removing those and so the municipal court

2508
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 15: judges had to sue him to get those records put

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02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 15: back on to the public docket. The clerk of Courts

2510
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 15: does not have the power to unilaterally remove documents from

2511
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 15: the public records.

2512
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,080
Speaker 2: Well, the pause will bring Judge McDowell back for one

2513
02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:27,720
Speaker 2: more Shenanigan's declaration.

2514
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Speaker 1: Be the talk station.

2515
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:33,560
Speaker 2: And say forty eight or fifty five KRCD talk station

2516
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas with Judge Christopher McDowell appointed by governor to

2517
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:37,960
Speaker 2: wine and thank God for Governor to wine for at

2518
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 2: least something. We've got this great judge on the bench,

2519
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 2: unbelievably experienced and calling him as he sees them, clerker

2520
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,000
Speaker 2: Courts is apparently hiding a lot of the Fellawy murders

2521
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 2: from you and me knowing about them. I believe you

2522
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 2: summed it up this way. You know, if you got

2523
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 2: a problem with crime, then maybe one of the ways

2524
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 2: you try to deal with it, it's just covered up

2525
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 2: and prevent like it doesn't exist. And that's the problem

2526
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are saying the city of

2527
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:02,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has. They want to tell you that everything's safe,

2528
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 2: everything's fine, and yet we keep hearing about the murders,

2529
02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 2: the gunshots, the violence.

2530
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 1: No follow up.

2531
02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 2: As you pointed out, no one tells you what happened

2532
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 2: to the purpse after they're arrested. But one of the reasons,

2533
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,240
Speaker 2: then what do you do to try to change the narrative?

2534
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 2: You don't put them on the felony murder dockets, so

2535
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 2: local news doesn't know that they're actually in front of

2536
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:25,520
Speaker 2: a judge being tried and maybe convicted. So what is

2537
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 2: the next step on this? I thought of maybe one

2538
02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 2: of these lawyers out there, maybe the Chris Finny's of

2539
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 2: the world, or someone would file suit on this. This

2540
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 2: is what they do all the time. Is there any

2541
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 2: legal challenges at play here going after the Clerk of

2542
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 2: Courts for hiding these records or what are you planning

2543
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:42,919
Speaker 2: on doing next? By way of steps, judge.

2544
02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:45,520
Speaker 15: Yeah, Well, what I'm going to do is, I'm going

2545
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 15: when these cases are coming before me, now the law

2546
02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 15: come before me within the next month for a report

2547
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 15: or for some other matter, I'm going to require I'm

2548
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:56,760
Speaker 15: going to give an issue in order to the prosecutor

2549
02:11:56,880 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 15: to tell me why this case is not on the

2550
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,800
Speaker 15: public docket, why it is not on the Clerk of

2551
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:06,839
Speaker 15: Court's website, because I don't know why there have been removed.

2552
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,120
Speaker 15: So I don't want to just unilaterally remove it and

2553
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 15: then there could be somebody in danger, for example. But

2554
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 15: I want to give them an opportunity, and then if

2555
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 15: they don't provide me with a good explanation for why

2556
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:21,280
Speaker 15: the sixth Amendment seems to be curtailed in this case,

2557
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 15: then I want to order and put back on the

2558
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 15: public docket back on the clerker Court's website where they belong,

2559
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 15: so everybody knows and can come to court and see

2560
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:31,800
Speaker 15: how that case ends.

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02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 2: And because we have a sixth Amendment, and because the

2562
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:37,240
Speaker 2: clerk has been down this road before and ordered to

2563
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:40,200
Speaker 2: put these records back on, you're on firm legal ground

2564
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:43,360
Speaker 2: in directing that, you would think so, yes, sir, well,

2565
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:45,240
Speaker 2: I suppose it would end up in court. Kurt Hartman's

2566
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 2: name came up too.

2567
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, I've known Kurt for a long time. Kurt's a

2568
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 15: great lawyer, so is Chris Finny. There are a number

2569
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 15: of great lawyers in the city who I'm sure would

2570
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:57,560
Speaker 15: love to take up this case. And also you would

2571
02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:01,120
Speaker 15: think the inquiry Fox News Channel twelve they also would

2572
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 15: want to take up this case because they're the ones

2573
02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:05,400
Speaker 15: who don't know when the cases are going to be

2574
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 15: in court.

2575
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 2: Prior to today, Judge McDowell, they probably didn't know that

2576
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,760
Speaker 2: these were being removed. You just discovered it by virtue

2577
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:12,840
Speaker 2: of you being on a bench.

2578
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 15: Yeah, for a month, and for a month. I found

2579
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 15: it out right away, and you would think other people

2580
02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:21,800
Speaker 15: would realize it too. But we'll see. I'll take it

2581
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 15: to take I take them matter very seriously because I

2582
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 15: think that for our judicial system to work best, the

2583
02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:31,400
Speaker 15: people need to have full access to know. There needs

2584
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 15: to be full transparency, and also people need to know

2585
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 15: if aggravated murders are going to prison for life. That

2586
02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 15: should act as a deterrent.

2587
02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for other people, Well, and you just hit the

2588
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:42,960
Speaker 2: nail on the head of the direction I was going.

2589
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 2: We're all worried out here, my listening audience.

2590
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:45,280
Speaker 1: Anyway.

2591
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:48,040
Speaker 2: You know, the prosecutors seemed to want to do their

2592
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:50,080
Speaker 2: job on the heels of the police, who seem to

2593
02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 2: want to do their job. Bad guy commits crime, police

2594
02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 2: issue citation, payed over the prosecutor's office. They needed a

2595
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:57,640
Speaker 2: grand jury indictment or not as the case maybe, but

2596
02:13:57,680 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 2: they're happy to go to the court. The court seems

2597
02:13:59,960 --> 02:14:01,920
Speaker 2: to be the weak link in the chain. The criminal

2598
02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:05,360
Speaker 2: justice system works because it acts as a deterrent. One

2599
02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:08,360
Speaker 2: of other reasons we have one punish the bad guy,

2600
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 2: gives some satisfaction to the victim, the victim's families, but

2601
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 2: more fundamentally, you offer an out loud message to those

2602
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 2: who might commit crime. If you do, you're going to

2603
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 2: be dealt with harshly. Well, modern judicial theory is no, well,

2604
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 2: it's not their fault. They went out and shot somebody

2605
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 2: in the head. They had a tough life while and

2606
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,280
Speaker 2: they let them out either on low bond no bond,

2607
02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:31,720
Speaker 2: which sends a very out loud message, much like an

2608
02:14:31,760 --> 02:14:33,960
Speaker 2: open border sends a message that everybody can come into

2609
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:36,040
Speaker 2: the country, everybody can commit crime, there's not going to

2610
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:38,920
Speaker 2: be any consequences, most notably for the juveniles out there.

2611
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:42,560
Speaker 15: And you also see the repeat offenders. You see the

2612
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:46,360
Speaker 15: people who are out on bond or out on probation

2613
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:50,680
Speaker 15: who then commit the same offense or similar offense, another

2614
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 15: violent offense, who are then still out on the street,

2615
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:57,480
Speaker 15: hurting the people of Cincinnati Hamilton County. And we just

2616
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:02,360
Speaker 15: cannot continue to live that way. Everybody should feel like

2617
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:04,360
Speaker 15: they can go anywhere in the city that they want,

2618
02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:07,520
Speaker 15: and you can't. There are areas of the city that

2619
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:10,680
Speaker 15: you can't go because you fear for your life, and

2620
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:13,560
Speaker 15: a lot of the people that you fear are people

2621
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 15: who are out on bond, out on probation, and it

2622
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 15: should not be that way.

2623
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:20,840
Speaker 2: And they've demonstrated willingness to break the law, and they

2624
02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:23,600
Speaker 2: gleefully do so again knowing that apparently there's not going

2625
02:15:23,680 --> 02:15:25,400
Speaker 2: to be any consequence as well, if they're in front

2626
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 2: of you, Judge McDowell, then I imagine there might be consequences.

2627
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:33,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate your service to our country and military service work

2628
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:35,840
Speaker 2: of the JAG. Of course, you're a storied legal career,

2629
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:37,520
Speaker 2: all the cases you've tried, and I'm glad you're on

2630
02:15:37,560 --> 02:15:41,280
Speaker 2: the bench. You have a responsible, intelligent official on the bench,

2631
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 2: one who is obviously willing to look into Shenanigan's going

2632
02:15:44,960 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 2: on in the clerk a Court's office. Judge McDowell, you

2633
02:15:48,120 --> 02:15:49,520
Speaker 2: know you've got an open form here to give us

2634
02:15:49,560 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 2: a follow up and where things are if you find

2635
02:15:51,080 --> 02:15:54,120
Speaker 2: out the reason why the specific person responsible for this

2636
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 2: was that somebody within the Purvole administration directing the clerk

2637
02:15:58,120 --> 02:15:59,640
Speaker 2: on what to do and not to do. Don't know,

2638
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:01,840
Speaker 2: but I'm looking forward to finding out. He seems like

2639
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:02,600
Speaker 2: you're the man to do it.

2640
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:03,840
Speaker 15: I'll get to the bottom of it.

2641
02:16:04,080 --> 02:16:06,480
Speaker 2: I have a confidence that you will. Judgerick doubt's a

2642
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 2: real pleasure. We'll be looking forward to supporting your campaign

2643
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:12,520
Speaker 2: for election in November of next year. Keep up the

2644
02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:14,200
Speaker 2: great work on the bench. In the meantime, best of

2645
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:16,520
Speaker 2: health and loved you and your family. Oh I got

2646
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 2: to ask. I know you've only been there for about

2647
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:23,960
Speaker 2: a month, and I know judges get threats regularly. Have

2648
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 2: you experienced any of that if you even want to

2649
02:16:26,080 --> 02:16:28,560
Speaker 2: say out loud, because I just worry about that.

2650
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:30,920
Speaker 15: Kind of stuff. Well, the first thing is I exercised

2651
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:33,920
Speaker 15: my second amendment, right I figured you did. The second

2652
02:16:33,959 --> 02:16:36,360
Speaker 15: thing is the Hamilton County Chef has been out to

2653
02:16:36,440 --> 02:16:40,080
Speaker 15: my home and they've conducted a full analysis of my

2654
02:16:40,280 --> 02:16:43,640
Speaker 15: home good in my area. They provided me a report

2655
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:47,080
Speaker 15: as to the weaknesses and the strengths of what I'm doing.

2656
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:50,920
Speaker 15: And this weekend I was busy installing a home alarm

2657
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:55,680
Speaker 15: and security system. And you know it's my wife is

2658
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,440
Speaker 15: the one who often bears the burden of it. Of course,

2659
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:01,000
Speaker 15: you know she could be home alone. And my wife

2660
02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:04,200
Speaker 15: is a West Point graduate. I met her in the military.

2661
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:06,200
Speaker 15: She also exercises her.

2662
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 13: She does.

2663
02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:14,760
Speaker 2: Don't mess with missus McDowell. Judge McDowell, great, heaving you on.

2664
02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to put you on a spot like that,

2665
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 2: but ahead of note, because we live in a very

2666
02:17:18,400 --> 02:17:21,800
Speaker 2: very very dangerous world generally speaking, and social media and

2667
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:25,280
Speaker 2: docsing really makes it that much worse psychologically at minimum,