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Speaker 2: This is Let's Garden with Scott Berline. Good to have

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Speaker 2: you with us this morning. Our number is eight hundred

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Speaker 2: am here with Sarah Geiger Beam. Good morning, this, Good morning, Sarah.

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Speaker 2: You are a landscape designer with a focus on pollinator

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Speaker 2: plants YEP and horticulturists with the top level of Ohio

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Speaker 2: Green Industry Association accreditation.

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Speaker 1: What is that? The master certified.

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Speaker 3: Master Ohio Certified Nursery Technician, I think is what they call.

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Speaker 1: So you're a designer, you know plants.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you just started vertigree plants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved to a farm in September and I

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Speaker 3: have a lot more room to grow plants. And as

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Speaker 3: a designer, a lot of times I have trouble finding

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Speaker 3: plants that I want to use in my jobs, or

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Speaker 3: I just want to trial some plants and get to

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Speaker 3: know them that I know that other designers are using

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Speaker 3: successfully in other areas, and I want to see how

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Speaker 3: those plants do here. So I'm growing a lot of

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Speaker 3: plants and just starting to sell a few of them,

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Speaker 3: but hopefully more in the future. But my main line

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Speaker 3: is designing gardens.

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Speaker 2: Designing gardens. Right, you're also a hiker and a wood worker.

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Speaker 2: I am with those things.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And I should have mentioned your landscape designer with Wimberg

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Speaker 2: Landscaping here in town.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you here.

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Speaker 2: We have two good guests today, both of which I

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Speaker 2: think you're going to enjoy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a bee.

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Speaker 2: Keeper, an additional thing to add to the list. And

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Speaker 2: we're going to have doctor Natalie Boyle from Penn State University.

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Speaker 2: She is a really well known expert on bees, both

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Speaker 2: minor bees, honey bees, all the bees.

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Speaker 4: I always love to talk about bees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she will be a good one to talk to.

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Speaker 2: And then later on we'll have Joseph Taikanovich. You've heard

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Speaker 2: him speak at the cincinne Zoos.

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 4: He was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's a what do you call it, maybe

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Speaker 2: a renaissance guy. Knows all about horticulture. He's a writer

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Speaker 2: editor of the North American Rock Garden Quarterly. He's going

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Speaker 2: to talk about a lot of cool stuff, including one

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Speaker 2: really cool story that we'll say for later. We will

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Speaker 2: Information there yet, all right, Yeah, and just to remind

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Speaker 2: me up at Let's Garden with Scott Berline. And Berlin,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is spelled impossibly. It's b e u

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Speaker 2: your calls eight hundred eighty two three eighty two fifty five.

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Speaker 2: But as always, we start the day off with just

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Speaker 2: a look at what the National Days of r because

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Speaker 2: it's a great waste of time. Gets us limbered up

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Speaker 2: little coffee. So we are well now into the month

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Speaker 2: of April, past the midpoint, and April has a lot

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Speaker 2: of things, a lot it's a month of a lot

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Speaker 2: of things. It's and we've mentioned these before so we'll

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Speaker 2: just skim over them. It's landscape Architecture month. We both

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Speaker 2: knew landscape architects and know and like most of them.

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Speaker 4: You do, like most of them important work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's pecan or pecan month. What do

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Speaker 1: Good, yep, above the Ohio River.

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Speaker 4: But I'll eat I'll eat it whatever however you describe it.

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Speaker 2: It's National Garden Month, of course, and then it's also

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Speaker 4: Definitely Outside month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Outside month an important thing. It's not a set yet,

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Speaker 2: but it's in the works. It's a resolution before Congress

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Speaker 2: thanks to our friend Nancy Lynn's to make April national

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Speaker 2: Native Plant Month.

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Speaker 4: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: It is nice, and you can learn more about it

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Speaker 2: at one of the best websites I've ever visited, Native

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good information there. So we're in

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Speaker 2: the third week of April. It is National Park Week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we both love our national parks.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that they have a week.

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Speaker 1: They should have a month, they should have a year. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Support them, America's best idea.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I say exactly, every kid healthy week. You have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're healthy enough. You know, they bring a lot

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Speaker 1: Good. Good. It's exercise day today or no exercise weeks.

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Speaker 2: Still we're on the weeks. So third week of April

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Speaker 2: exercise week. So good exercise is garden the.

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Speaker 1: Garden, gardening.

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Speaker 3: It's my preferred form of exercise exactly, if it's not

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Speaker 3: gardening or hiking. You know, I'm probably lukewarm about it, but.

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Speaker 2: God knows, there's a lot of exercise to be had

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Speaker 4: That's true. There's no shortage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that brings back good memories.

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Speaker 3: Those little boxes with the with the circus animals and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a bland cracker.

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Speaker 2: It should have come with a prize, but it never did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: National Alignment Appreciation Day. So here I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 2: sing that song. I am alive.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: My electricity went out yesterday a transformer blue my neighborhood,

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Speaker 4: Thanks for the electrons. Yes, they're great.

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Speaker 2: Monuments in Sight's day, whatever that means. I like it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Okay, but it's I guess it's still a thing. Poem

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Speaker 3: I feel like I need to know the origin story

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's got to be a story.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say you're so organized. National Columnist Day.

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Speaker 2: You know what I am?

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Speaker 4: You are a column.

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Speaker 2: I'm a columnist. You can read my columns in Horticulture Magazine.

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Speaker 4: I do read your columns and Garden Rant and.

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Speaker 2: Garden Rant that's right too. Yeah, and those are online,

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Speaker 2: you're interested. Sunday Tomorrow, April nineteenth, National hanging Out Day.

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a good day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ammaretto Day and Guardlic Day four hundred million?

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Speaker 3: Are you supposed to and gameretto and eat a ton

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You get sick on the garlic and nasty on

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Speaker 3: I was going to say it would be a memorable day,

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Speaker 1: Day, or maybe a day you'd like to forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah, four.

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Speaker 2: Hundred million pounds of garlic grown in the United States.

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Speaker 2: What is the garlic capital of America? I gil Roy, California.

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Speaker 2: Smells like garlic. Monday, April twentieth, four to twenty four

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Speaker 4: The bean lobby was really feeling.

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Speaker 1: They pushed.

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Speaker 3: I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Paraguay and they

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Speaker 4: Was really delicious. Actually, the fresh ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like them. I like them in sucotash.

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Speaker 2: here again, Okay, I never thought of bakeries as being

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Speaker 2: of Registry. So the lobby is strong, they're insistent, they're pushy.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're just enthusiastic.

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Speaker 3: May know, maybe maybe these are just people that just like,

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Speaker 3: have so much love for baked goods that they can't

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Speaker 1: But it's funnier if you think they're sinister.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: So it's Pineapple upside down Cake Day tomorrow, Chinese Language

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Speaker 2: look Alike day, twins, sisters, brothers, that kind of thing. Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: How did I skip Monday? I don't know this is important?

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Speaker 2: Yeah I skip? Oh that was Monday?

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Speaker 2: So Tuesday, April twenty first, Creativity and Innovation Day, Kindergarten Day,

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Speaker 4: What does that mean? Do I want to know that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All I remember is a.

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Speaker 2: Dog food factory near my house, rendering, occasionally stinking up

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Speaker 4: That was the rendering.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, yeah, me too, And I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: that's something we want to celebrate, but anyway, some people

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Speaker 2: must or do. Okay, chocolate covered cash Tuesday again that lobby, sure, yep.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday, Girl Scout leaders Day. Thank your girl Scout leader.

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Speaker 4: I was a girl Scout. My mom was my leader.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Jellybean Day. And I don't know if that's for the

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm

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Speaker 2: here with Sarah Geiger Bean. Hello, good friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: To talk plants.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's first talk weather. We're getting cold

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Speaker 3: So far it doesn't look like there is an actual frost,

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Speaker 3: And yesterday I potted up twenty one gallon tomato plants

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Speaker 4: They're great, but thirty six degrees is not what I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're flowering and some of them are already starting

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Speaker 2: and hopefully we're done with frost, yes, and cold weather

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Speaker 2: But what are you enjoying right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I you know, I have some irises at

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Speaker 1: Sarah is very very very.

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Speaker 1: Here we are April.

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Speaker 1: that's true.

447
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: So we were just talking about irises, and I wanted

448
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: to mention that I've got some roof Iris Iris tictorum

449
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: out there in my garden, and what.

450
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: A display it is putting on right now. It's just

451
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: so beautiful.

452
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: It's more of a short one probably about foot that's

453
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: sixteen inches tall, big flowers, big wide, sword like foliage.

454
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: Nice, and yeah, it's it's a performer.

455
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 2: So so what else are you looking at right now

456
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: that you're enjoying.

457
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: I drove by.

458
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: Planting of fringe trees yesterday. That just took my breath away.

459
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: When they are in full bloom and the sun hits

460
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: them just right, the flowers they must scatter the light

461
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: in some special way that no other flower does. It

462
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 3: looks like they literally glow. This was the native Yeah, okay, yep,

463
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: it was beautiful.

464
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: It's funny because I have one in the front yard

465
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: that is not even it just started barely budding. So

466
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 2: there's there must be kind of a wide range of

467
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: bloom times on those interesting I know, I didn't. I

468
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: never realized realized that before, but I'm seeing it at

469
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: least this year with my tree. It's falling in late

470
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: and I did plant a Kynanthus ratusis, which is the

471
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: Chinese French tree in my neighbor's yard, and it is

472
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: absolutely putting on a storm of flowers right now. It's

473
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: just incredible. I can see it. If I walk around

474
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: to the very back of my yard and lean.

475
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: Over the you can visit it.

476
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: She does let me visit, so yeah, I have visitation, right,

477
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, So what else.

478
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: You know?

479
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: I in my new garden and in my old garden

480
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: geranium macrohizum, the big root geranium or cranesbill geranium, I

481
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 3: think it's sometimes called. I love that plant so good

482
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: because this time of year it's one of the only

483
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: groundcover shade tolerant plants that absolutely covers the ground. I mean,

484
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: spring weeds do not get up through that plant at all.

485
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: So it's really good if you have a tough spot

486
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: and you just don't want to do maintenance. It takes

487
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: a few years to fill in, but it's not even

488
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: blooming yet, but it's fantastic.

489
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: A new one at the zoo last year called Heavens

490
00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: to Betsy. I hate the name, but it is such

491
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: a beautiful geranium. It really is a star. So if

492
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: you can find that one out there, I think you

493
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: should track it down.

494
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, what else?

495
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: Flox Divaricada woodland flocks may breeze is a white variety

496
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: that's beautiful. Blue Moon is pretty commonly available, purple blue variety,

497
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: and the smell.

498
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: On those is just fantastic.

499
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: It really is.

500
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do have to kind of bend down and

501
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 4: get close to the ground. It doesn't put it up

502
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: in your face like the tall flocks, but it's a

503
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 4: lovely plant.

504
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: This time of year, it's a National exercise week per

505
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: day or whatever it was. You can do your squats,

506
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: you can.

507
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 4: See your squat and smell the flocks.

508
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: Smell the flocks.

509
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely perfect. Yep.

510
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying the polygonatams or the Solomon seals right now.

511
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: That's a wonderful.

512
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just they're they're they're in bloom. But that's

513
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: not really why you grow those plants. Flowers are fun.

514
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 3: The flowers are fun, and I do like how they

515
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: combine with the full Yeah, it's it's a really nice

516
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: overall look when it's blooming. But you're right, at least

517
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: at least half of the beauty is just the way

518
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: those arching stems and the leaves.

519
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, are so cool. And it's such a steady, reliable performer.

520
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: It spreads really nicely, does well in your I shade

521
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: yes for the most part, I have not heard of

522
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: deer and rabbits bothering it. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, right, But.

523
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a bit of a slow starter. I

524
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: always have to tell my clients that if I speck

525
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: it for a job. But yeah, it's a wonderful plant

526
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: and it's it's worth the couple years that it will

527
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: take to fill in an area.

528
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

529
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those plants with like exponential stems.

530
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: With every year.

531
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: So the first year you get if you start with three,

532
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: you'll probably have five the next year, then ten the

533
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: year after that, and then whoa Nelly.

534
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's like call me.

535
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 4: It's like I get what you're saying, but just hang

536
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: in there.

537
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: That's right.

538
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: That's why I always used to tell people, you're gonna

539
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: hate me for the first year.

540
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna think what use this case is what a

541
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: dumb plant? And this is on several different things.

542
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: And then by year three, if you remember that it

543
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: was me who put the plant in, you'll be thanking me,

544
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: but you probably probably won't.

545
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what else are you looking at right now?

546
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: You know, the hugras with the emerging foliage are just

547
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: really beautiful. The corabels I uh checked out a job

548
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: this week where we had put the Primo wild rose

549
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: hugra in, which is just this really vivid purple. I

550
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: mean you have to you have to be a color

551
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: level lever to plant this plant because it is it

552
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: is not a subtle plant, but very tough. This site

553
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: was mostly sun exposure and it was only in the

554
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: ground one year and just coming back incredibly well, just

555
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: beautiful new foliage.

556
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: They've come a long way as far as sun tolerance

557
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: and also just durability. Uh so many now, if they're

558
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: really good cultivars, even with amazing color, have lossome or

559
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: velosa blood in them, which is our native hucra, which

560
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: literally is at the zoo.

561
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: It's growing out.

562
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: Of wet concrete stacked wall, I mean rock and mortar,

563
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: and somehow it's found somewhere to root.

564
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

565
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know, in the wild, hukra tends to grow

566
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: in these sort of rocky patches and ledges. So yeah,

567
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: they don't need deep soil, but they do need good drainage.

568
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

569
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a very tough plant.

570
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: I've been looking at Brunerus or Siberian bug loss.

571
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

572
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: I am a big fan of the straight green species.

573
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: I know that's haresy out there.

574
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: Actually, no, I completely agree with you.

575
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: We're both heretics there.

576
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

577
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, the green leaves, the texture is so fabulous.

578
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: And it sets off the blue flowers so nice.

579
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

580
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Now I like the variegated ones and I count what two, four, six,

581
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: eight ten, There are twelve out there that I know

582
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: of with easy googling. They're twelve cultivars and they're all good,

583
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: and a lot of people like the variegation and it

584
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: is good for again dry shade, so it can light

585
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: up that dark corner of the garden. But I really

586
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: I really like the green and it will seed around

587
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: and show up where you kind of want it and

588
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: if you don't want it there, you can pull it

589
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: or move it easily. But the way it sets off

590
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: those blue flowers, I just yeah.

591
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: And it's a long blooming plant too.

592
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

593
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful plant for shade and the straight species.

594
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: I mean, the leaves are large.

595
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: There's not a lot that has that texture and shade,

596
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: and they're just so thick.

597
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: You know. You touch that plant and it's just a

598
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: sturdy plant.

599
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah, it's very reliable. The only thing

600
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: it can't take is a real sunny spot. I have

601
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: learned that the hard way it will dry out crisp up. Yeah,

602
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: but that's about all that bothers it.

603
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about Japanese paint and ferns?

604
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

605
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: I love them.

606
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they're they're beautiful, tough plants. Sometimes they're a

607
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: little too tough. My only complaint is that over time,

608
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: eventually they start mixing in with a lot of your perennials,

609
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: and you know, you have to do some editing.

610
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, just a good problem.

611
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: It is a good problem to have.

612
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a problem I want rather than a

613
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: plant that's not gonna.

614
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: They're just emerging right now and the foliage is so

615
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: fresh and colorful. And again dry shade. You know that

616
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: that tip tough place that nobody really knows how to

617
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: answer for. We just gave you three plants in a

618
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: row yep for dry shade. Four Really if you count to.

619
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: Drainium, just put them all in there together and let

620
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: them fight it out.

621
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, else are you looking it to that?

622
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: Let's see you know, pawpaw. Yeah, the flowers on paupaw.

623
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: First of all, you cannot photograph these things. You have

624
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: to see it in person. But at my new place,

625
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: I have a little row of Papa thinks again to Marianne,

626
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: and it is. Two of them are absolutely covered in blooms,

627
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: just hundreds of blooms. And it's such a weird flower.

628
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: It's such a weird flower.

629
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: Weird color, dark dark burgundy, maroon. Yeah, it almost looks

630
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: black unless.

631
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: It's back hit.

632
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you only see the color with backlighting. And that

633
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: is the fun way to see it, or to even

634
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: try to photograph it. It's you know, it's not the

635
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: best smelling flower in the oorl kind of it's meant

636
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: to attract carrion beetles, which.

637
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, they don't like good smells.

638
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: They like the smell of carrion. No one else does,

639
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: no one.

640
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe coyotes, but yeah.

641
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: Oak leaf Hydrangea is another one that it's been catching

642
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: my eye. Just the emerging foliage is I mean, it

643
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: looks like one of those like nature patterns that are

644
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: they just look like it's too it's too perfect to

645
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: be real.

646
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: But it is.

647
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: And it's a great tough plant native and there's good

648
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: cultivars available.

649
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Good in shade, a fairly heavy shade. It won't flower

650
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: as much, but it's also good in full sun and

651
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: tolerate a fair amount of drought.

652
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

653
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: I saw it once growing in the wild, which was

654
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: pretty cool down in Tennessee.

655
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I've never seen in the wild.

656
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 2: It was in a very deep, heavy woods and with

657
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: almost no sunlight getting to the ground. It was very

658
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: spinley and you know, surviving and that was about all.

659
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: Did it have that nice exfoliating kind of bark barely.

660
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you know it was really it was like one

661
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: stem about six feet tall, okay, but you could tell

662
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: it had been there a long time. Yeah, it just

663
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: barely grew every year and it had some of the exfoliation,

664
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: so that is another feature for that plant.

665
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: That's really cool.

666
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: The bark is sort of a cinnamony color with you know,

667
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: flakes off and really cool again backlit.

668
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: That's really a neat way to see that.

669
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, the bleeding hearts right now.

670
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: Yes, center is spectability and.

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Speaker 1: What was it exema? That sounds right, And what's the

672
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Speaker 1: native one too?

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Speaker 3: There's a Dutchman's breeches y. I don't know the Latin

674
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Speaker 3: on that one.

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Speaker 1: I don't I can't think of it.

676
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: It's like squirrel corn, squirrel corn.

677
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Speaker 2: All really good plants, the spectabiliti type or the classic

678
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: garden type. Yeah, it's mine is in full bloom right now,

679
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: just with the arching stem and the little.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another one where the flower there's just nothing

681
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: like a bleeding heart flower. Yeah, it looks almost artificial,

682
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: but it's so beautiful. Yeah, they kind of melt out,

683
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: you know, they're not a perennial that's going to hold

684
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Speaker 3: a lot of ground over the course of the entire year. Right, Yeah,

685
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Speaker 3: you go dormant early, but they're worth it for the

686
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Speaker 3: spring display.

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Speaker 2: We'll take another break and come back. We'll finish with

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00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: some more plants and then we'll talk about some work

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Speaker 2: to do in the yard. And then at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm

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Speaker 2: here with Sarah Geiger Beam the landscape designer, all around

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Speaker 2: plant nerd, farmer, hiker designer, all those all those things,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: I like to mix it up.

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00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, never bored, never ever, that's true.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: So we're talking plants. What are some other plants that

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Speaker 2: are really impressing you right now?

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Speaker 3: You know, this time of year, I just love all

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Speaker 3: of the emerging foliage on trees.

723
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Speaker 4: It's just so cute.

724
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Speaker 1: It is cute.

725
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: You don't think of oaks as being cute, but right

726
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: now they are adorable.

727
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: And we're already past the buckeyes leafing out, but those

728
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: things are so cool. They look like something from an

729
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: alien planet when they are emerging from the bud. Just beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Oaks are super cute. Always keep an eye on the

731
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Speaker 3: oak foliage because I heard some folk wisdom years years

732
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: ago that.

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Speaker 4: You plant corn when the oak leaves are the size

734
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Speaker 4: of a squirrelfoot.

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00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: Size is a squirrelfoot?

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Speaker 4: Well, you got to look at a squirrel. Yeah, there's

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00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 4: plenty around, Yeah, there are just pay attention.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah, that's that's the folk wisdom. So

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00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: I saw an oak this week. Most of them haven't

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: gotten to the squirrel foot, but this one had, And

741
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Speaker 3: I was like, Okay.

742
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, maybe seems a little early for corn.

743
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, but it's supposed to be you know,

744
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: the last frost. You're not supposed to plant corn until

745
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: after frost is gone. Yeah, we're in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it depends on the kind of oak.

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00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying I think it's like true.

748
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: Or bullet people putting out there like it was.

749
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Speaker 4: No, I said it's fo.

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Speaker 1: Folk wisdom, but you know, you said it with reverence.

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Speaker 4: I think that it happens around the same time of

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Speaker 4: year as the last frost usually, but I would not

753
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: but you know, one hundred acres of corn seed on it.

754
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: Farmers might have another take on it, but yeah, I

755
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: agree with the one hundred percent on that. I've always said,

756
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: you know, spring is the time to go out and

757
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: look at the little parts of big plants.

758
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: Yes, and all the different trees as they emerge, especially oaks.

759
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: But it increased to oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, when those leaves are first emerging, it is a

761
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: certain level of freshness and just it fills you with warmth.

762
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: It's just excitement.

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00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely love it.

764
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Speaker 3: I was even charmed by the emerging foliage on a

765
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: poison ivy plant one time before I realized what it was.

766
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Speaker 1: Hopefully before you touched it too.

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00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: It was before I touched it, but I got a nice,

768
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: good close up photo. I was like, wow, that is

769
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: a beautiful leaf, and then oh, it hit me. You

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: can even love poison ivy well at this time of year.

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Speaker 2: It's a native plant and it's one of the best

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: for birds and different things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll see people like this is a great

775
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: plant for birds.

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00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: Bad birds can eat more than that.

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00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: And if it's in your back, there's a lot of

779
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: it around. Yeah, there's no shortage of places.

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00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: There are places where it can grow beyond.

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00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: My yard in the back forty somewhere off like that. Yes, yeah,

782
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: what else are you looking at?

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Speaker 4: Gosh, as far as emerging fooliage. You know, the birches.

784
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: I love the little catkins that hang on the birches

785
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 4: and the hazels, you know, just beautiful, spring.

786
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Speaker 1: Delicate, different.

787
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's.

788
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: Just it's something that you really need to walk up to.

789
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: It's not a drive by kind of thing, but not really.

790
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: No, at some point they all fall and then you've

791
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: got these little squiggly worms over the ground, which is

792
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: kind of fun.

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00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, area at first if you're.

794
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, you know, your glasses aren't on

795
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: and you see it and you're kind unaware. But yeah,

796
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: dogwoods have come and gone amazingly fast for us because

797
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 2: of the heat, which is sad because they look great.

798
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: He looks so good. People further north are just in

799
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Speaker 1: for a treat. I think. Yeah, as these.

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Speaker 2: Come through, there's a lot of good dogwoods out there.

801
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: You know, people kind of fell off of them because

802
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: they you know a lot of people put them in

803
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: the wrong place. And then there was the anthracnose thing,

804
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: which I think kind of came and went.

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00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: I see a lot of dogwoods planted in full sun.

806
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: That's a problem. Full sun and in competition with turf. Yeah,

807
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: that's a double whammie. Give it a little bit of

808
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: daytime shade and a nice big, cool, nice mulched root

809
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: run and it should do pretty They should do pretty

810
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: well for you. Give it some water if it gets dry,

811
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Speaker 2: and enjoy your dogwos for many years.

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00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 4: Yep.

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00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: It kind of wants to be an understory tree and uh,

814
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: you know, have a little bit of extra moisture and

815
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of extra protection like it would underneath

816
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: the canopy of a forest.

817
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: And I just remember that you worked at Spring Grove.

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: I did several years ago.

819
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Speaker 2: And the best, one of the best dogwood varieties I

820
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: know of is the Spring Grove variety if you can

821
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: find it out there.

822
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: Yes, that it's a great tree. The mother tree is

823
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: still alive. Yeah, Spring Grove Cemetery. Uh, it's it's a

824
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: venerable old tree, beautiful tree and.

825
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Three times the normal amount of flowers.

826
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think maybe it's a polyploid or something.

827
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: I bet it is. I asked Brian Hines from Spring

828
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Grove that and he thought so too.

829
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It has grayfall color like a lot of a lot

831
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Speaker 2: of dogwoods. But this is really nice and a very

832
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: heavy fruit set. Yep, yep, So any.

833
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: Other more more cold hardiness on the Spring Grove dogwood too,

834
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: just how.

835
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: They discovered it, It's exactly right.

836
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 4: The only one that survived the very deep breeze.

837
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bad, bad winner, and and they

838
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: lost most of their their dogwoods that year and the ones,

839
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: the one that survived the best was the Spring Grove variety, yes,

840
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 2: now named, and.

841
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: It has bigger, better flowers and fruit.

842
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's all those things combined.

843
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: So if you can find it out there, and it

844
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: is out there, if you can find it, that's the

845
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: one to go with. When we come back, we'll be

846
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: talking with doctor Natalie Boyle about bees. That will be

847
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: a lot of fun, so stay tuned for that. You're

848
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: listening to That's Garden with Scott Berline. Come back and

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Speaker 2: see us in a minute

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Speaker 4: Past sad Me