1 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Twin City's News Talk. 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm eleven thirty one oh three five FM from 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: the sixty five to one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios. 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Welcome into our three talkbacks coming up from the iHeart 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Radio Apples are brought to you by Lindahl Realty. And again, 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: make sure to update the app if you haven't done 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: so recently. They are always making advancements to increase your 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: listening pleasure. Also, your recaps are available there on the 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: app as well. You can find out how many talkbacks 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: you left, how many hours you spent listening to my voice, 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: John Justice, all of which just makes me feel better 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: about me. Let's get to a couple of your comments though. 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: This comes back to the conversation we were having about 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: the governor's race. Oh, this candidate forum that I was 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: covering Ryan Fairclough. Ryan Fairclough and his incredibly biased piece 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: from the Star Tribune Trump looms large over Minnesota's GOP 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: race for governor. The forum, he says, was drew about 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: one hundred people. I actually got a text from an 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: individual who was there in the room and counted there 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: was two hundred people. 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: They have what's called a Trump derangement problem. Have you 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: heard about that problem? Come on, Ryan, get it right. 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: You know how to count, don't. 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: You can't give too much credit, right, Let's get too 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: a few of your comments. 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: Good morning, Just a regular guy from Greater Minnesota here. 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer in competition breeds excellent. So you know, 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: in theory, more candidates competing, you're going to get the 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: absolute best of the best, cream of the crop. 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: But unfortunately. 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: That's never seems to be how it works. The It 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: just I think we're just gonna dilute the vote, and 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: that's very problematic. 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: I don't have a good day. 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Well I hope we don't. I'm with you. I'm not 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: all that please with what I'm hearing so far. 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: But everybody's entitled to run their campaigns how they want 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: to go and run them. But I am very afraid 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: that because of this desire for a slam dunk against 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls again, assuming he's the candidate, the expectations 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: are really really high. All of these are good candidates, 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: that's guess. That's my larger point. All of them are. 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: None of them are going to be perfect. They're never 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: going to fit into an exact box. Portrayal of the 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: ultimate candidate. So choose your fighters, support them, but don't 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: drag down your friends or other candidates in the process. 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 5: Well, I agree with you, John Well. One thing I 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: hate most about Minnesota Republicans is that they force you 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: into a situation where you're just voting for the lesson 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 5: of regal. They never give us anything positive to go for, 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 5: and I'm fick and tired of it. I'm going to 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 5: vote for Chrisha Fold. I don't scare where the chips fall. 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: I disagree with your premise, and we can agree to disagree, 54 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: voting for the lesser of two evils. This is also 55 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: sort of a subjective mentality. That is your viewpoint that 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: you're taking your personal opinion. It's cool that you have it, 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: but I don't agree with it because it's just not 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: true in my opinion that Republicans never give us anything 59 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: positive to vote for. As I mentioned, I would be 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: more than happy for the most part. I wear my 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: slippers every day, I put my head on my pillow. 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Not sure I need him is my governor. 63 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: That being said, I would be more than happy for 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: the most part in any of these candidates. 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I would still take Mike Lindell over Walls. 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: Don't mist understand this is what Let's be clear, that 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: would be more of a not even a lesser of 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: two evils. Okay, I'm just saying I just don't think 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Mike can win. 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: That's all that is. Mike's a good guy, don't get 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: me wrong, But. 72 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: I just don't agree that Republicans never give us anything 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: positive to vote for. Again, I think that's more of 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: a subjective than an objective attitude. 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: But you're certainly. 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: Entitled to it, and you're a longtime friend of the show, 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: and I know that typically is where you fall. So 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: where does the Minneapolis Times fall? Relating to Governor Tim 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 2: Walls rather interesting and a piece available at Minneapolistimes dot com. 80 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Worry among dfllers over Governor Chimwall's candidacy for an unprecedented 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: third consecutive term has gone from whispers to persistent chatter. 82 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: I share this with you because this is what I've 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: been looking to find out from the left. What is 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: the left's current perspective of their governor. The level of 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: anks hasn't yet reached the intensity provoked by Biden's candidacy. 86 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: After his dismissal from the twenty twenty four debate with 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but they say concern is growing. DFL anxiety 88 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: ratcheted up several notches in recent days when the fraud 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: scandals in Minnesota became national news, including up substantiated allegations 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: that some of the stolen public funds have gone to 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: finance the terrorist organization Al Shabad. 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: Stop right there. Okay, they're not wrong with. 93 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Upsubstantiated allegations, but come on already to even include that. 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: You can say allegations. 95 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: Has fraud from excuse me, has money made from fraud 96 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: in Minnesota gone to Somalia? 97 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Yes, we do know that. And if you know. 98 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: Any of the history of what's going on in Somalia 99 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: right now, when it comes to the terrorist organizations there, 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: they kind of rule the roosts. 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: There is no. 102 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Formal government over there, so it's a good bet that 103 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: money landed in the hands of terrorists, intentional or not. Anyway, 104 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: the scope of the fraud under Walls's watch is serious, 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: having reached several hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen 106 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: taxpayer funds, says The Minneapolis Times. Adding to public outrage 107 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: is this year audacity of the perpetrators and what seems 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: to be willful blindness by government managers to what was 109 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: happening in plain sight. A housing program, for example, launched 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty an annual projected cost of two point 111 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: six million. Within four years, the annual cost has soared 112 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 2: to one hundred million dollars. 113 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: How is that one. 114 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: Program growing forty times initial its cost estimates? Before anyone 115 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: questions the competency of those making the original budget projected 116 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: projections or raisist suspicions of fraud, yes you are true. 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: Just wait, the big butt orange man bad is coming 118 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: in this piece. Through all of this, Walls has often 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: seemed and disengaged, sometimes even dismissive of the fraud. Walls 120 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: told The New York Times the programs were set up 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: to improve people's lives, and in many cases the criminals 122 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: just find the loopholes, almost suggesting that rampant theft is 123 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: just a fact of life in government programs. It's the 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: same excuse that Ilhan Omar offered up when she was 125 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: talking with Meet the Press. 126 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think I actually have 127 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: that clip. 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 6: All the eighty seven people charged, all but eight are 129 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 6: of Somali descent, and that has added to the spotlight 130 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 6: being put specifically on your community. Why do you think 131 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: this fraud was allowed to get so widespread? 132 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 7: Well, I want to say, you know, this also has 133 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 7: an impact on Somali's because we are also taxpayers in Minnesota. 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 7: We also could have benefited from the program and the 135 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 7: money that was stolen, and so it's been really frustrating 136 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 7: for people to not acknowledge the fact that we're you know, 137 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 7: we're also as a Minnesota as the taxpayers, really upset 138 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 7: and angry about the fraud that has occurred. 139 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so that clip was the one where she was 140 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: saying that it's the Somali's perpetuating fraud that are actually 141 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: hurting other Samali. 142 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: She's not wrong. 143 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: It's true they are taxpayers as well, and that doesn't 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: account for the individuals involved within that community that are 145 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: not running those programs. But also we're more than happy 146 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: to go and take payoffs to have say their children 147 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: enrolled in the autism program, so the fraud could be 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: perpetuated or just. 149 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Simply turned a blind eye. 150 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: But in that same interview with Margaret with Margaret Brennan 151 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: on ABC, she offered the same excuse that Walls did 152 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: saying when asked about why the fraud takes place, well, 153 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know, sometimes the programs are you know, 154 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: just open to this type of fraud. 155 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: So we will and I will share with you the turn. 156 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: To this piece does because they spent the first half 157 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: of it talking about all the reasons why Walls is 158 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: a failure before they end up providing all of these 159 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: things that they would like to see Walls go and 160 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: do in their hopes that he would win a second term. 161 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: It make it make sense, It doesn't. It's the left 162 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: gas lighting once again. And I'll give you the example 163 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: coming up on Twin City's News Talking. We'll get to 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: your comments from the iHeartRadio app next. Don't go anywhere. 165 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: You know, the. 166 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: Democrats, the lefts, they constantly gas light that the GOP 167 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: will always bend the knee for Trump. That Star Tribune 168 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: article that I shared with you where they got the 169 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: number of individuals so petty by the way, about one 170 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: hundred people there. 171 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Now there were more than that. 172 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: But this Trump looms large over the Minnesota GOP race 173 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: for for governor. And listen, they made the point are 174 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: accurate that the majority of the candidates that are running 175 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: right they're running to get Trump's endorsement. Some of them aren't, 176 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: like Scott Jensen. Not a huge surprise there. But it's 177 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: the left that's constantly complaining that the GOP just caves 178 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: to the whim of every single thing that Trump does. 179 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: And yet time and time again, various commentators editorial writers 180 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: display what actual acquiescing to politicians looks like. In this 181 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: piece here at the Minneapolis Times, why is Tim Walls Running? 182 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: They spend the first half of it talking about the fraud, 183 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: how it's been dismissed, while almost suggesting the rampant theft 184 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: it's just a fact of life and government programs. 185 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean, even. 186 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls, you know, talking about how well the 187 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: fraud's taking place because we're just such a successful state, 188 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: which really is a bad sign, meaning that I guess, 189 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: if you're a really successful state, you just have to 190 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: accept billions of dollars in fraud being perpetuated. 191 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: And then they end up turning a corner. 192 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: It's just to say, it's exactly the same thing that 193 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: j Patrick Hooligan did in the Minnesota Reformer calling out 194 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: Walls's failures, only to close on But despite all that, 195 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: guys Orange man is still really bad. The Minneapolis Times 196 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: piece goes on to say Walls remains a formidable candidate 197 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: with advantages of incumbency and its significant campaign resources. He's 198 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: a likable, decent person and those qualities go a long 199 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: way with voters. First off, those are questionable qualities. And 200 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: even if you're on the left and that's what you believe, 201 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: that he's a likable decent person, those are quickly evaporating. 202 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Do people on let really think that, I guess they do. 203 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: Even so, if the election turns only on fraud, Walls's 204 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: third term is in jeopardy. Okay, Simply put, Walls needs 205 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: to answer the most fundamental question asked of all the candidates, 206 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: why are you running right now? 207 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Walls seems mostly to want a third. 208 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: Term to keep a national perch from which you can 209 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: criticize Trump. So you're still thinking, wow, they're really still 210 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: going after Walls on this. 211 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: Then they get to this. 212 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: The greatest out migration challenge in Minnesota faces isn't the 213 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: retired wealthy moving to Florida. It's a departure of young, 214 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: talented people. Minnesota is now a net exporter of college students, 215 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: one of only sixteen states In this predicament, the soon 216 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: to be educated people. 217 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Leave and many never return. 218 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: Keeping these young people in Minnesota maybe the single greatest 219 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: challenge the state faces, and the status quo won't do it. 220 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: Trump will continue to promote abysmal policies and make out 221 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: rageous offensive statements. This is where it ends up taking 222 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: that all too familiar term, I'm. 223 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: An optimistic person, I'm not hysterical. 224 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: Wall leave it to others, including the state's congressional delegation, 225 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: to hold the president accountable. Minnesota needs a governor invested 226 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: in making a state stronger, not in making Trump and 227 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: his administration weaker. Independence Forward Party gubernatorial candidate Mike Newcom 228 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: is a fresh voice challenging the status quo, but has 229 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: to gain the belief of voters that he can win 230 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: an uphill battle of all third party candidates, so they 231 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: spend the entire piece talking about all the ways that 232 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: Walls is bad, only to land on the winner of 233 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: next year's gubernatorial race needs to begin a new term 234 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: with a clear mandate for action that goes beyond ending 235 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: fraud and calling out Trump's assault on our country. 236 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: Otherwise the next. 237 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Four years will be nothing but running in place at best, 238 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: a downward spiral at worst, and if that is the future, 239 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: by the time twenty thirties gubernatorial election rolls around, Trump 240 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: will be gone, but so will many Minnesota taxpayers who 241 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: have funded the programs fraudsters have found so attractive. And 242 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: what would make these individuals believe that a third term 243 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: of Walls would be any different than his first and 244 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: second terms? Or is this just a byproduct of not 245 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: a good challenger has emerged? So again, this is really 246 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: the lesser of two evils for those that are on 247 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: the left right now. But it's just so typical. They're 248 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: right there, They're right there. You're not even gonna look. 249 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: At any of the GOP candidates, Listen. 250 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't have any expectation that they that they would, 251 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: but given everything that they've laid out of Walls's failures, 252 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: you'd think that that would possibly. 253 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Be on the menu. Maybe just maybe. 254 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: All right, coming up, we're gonna hop into the wayback 255 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: machine on a couple of different fraud related issues. Nolan 256 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: West put out a really interesting piece regarding the woman 257 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: who won the Outstanding Refugee of the Year a war 258 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: only to be indicted in Feeding our Future. Also, we're 259 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: gonna go back in time to win us Attyranney, Andy 260 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: Luger was in charge, and he was talking specifically about 261 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: the bribes that were taking place during the Feeding our 262 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Future trial. Straight out of a Mob movie. Also details 263 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: Rochester Schools spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars on 264 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: a training program tied to the superintendent's wife, and is 265 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: the City of Minneapolis really gonna spend one hundred and 266 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars for a city paid prints sing along party? 267 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: Details coming up on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven 268 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: thirty and one O three five FM. 269 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 8: Speaker. 270 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Who would like a talk back of 271 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: the day? I would like a talk back of the day? 272 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Brett talkback of the day? I could go for talkback 273 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: of the. 274 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: Day, Right, it's about that time in the morning, right, 275 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk from the sixty five to one 276 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: car But next day Install Studios. Your talkback of the 277 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: Day is brought to you by the fine folks over 278 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: at Mini Leaf Taste Happy, get a good night sleep 279 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: at their night Gummies at Minnie Leaf, m I N 280 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: N E l e AF dot com. 281 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: And this year it's your talk back of. 282 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 8: The day born John Ryan from North Branch. Speaking of weather, 283 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 8: I wanted to read an excerpt from my diary. Dear Diary, 284 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 8: it's day thirty seven straight of snow. Soon we will 285 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 8: find out if the carrier pigeons taste isn't good? Is 286 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 8: the turkeys we had for Thanksgiving? Pray for us great shows. 287 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 8: Always have a great day. 288 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: You're fascinating to talk to. 289 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: That is your talkback of the day, brought to you 290 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: by Mini Leaf at minnileaf dot com. 291 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: Certainly creative. Yeah, that was that came in early this morning. 292 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: We were talking about the We were talking about the 293 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: weather and the snow and the storm it's on its way. 294 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: I don't quite get the carrier pigeon turkey thing there, 295 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: like I've missed something. 296 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: But well, it's so cold and miserable that I can't 297 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: leave together. 298 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean I have to eat the 299 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: carrier pitch. 300 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that makes sense. 301 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: That's kind of where my head was at. But maybe 302 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: I was thinking too deep. You know, I'm overly analytical. 303 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: It's what I do on the show. So sometimes I 304 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: overthink and I don't just go with the obvious. There, 305 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: and that was the obvious. So glad that you're here, Brett, 306 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: much appreciated. All right, a couple of emails I wanted 307 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: to share. We were talking paid family medical leave. We'll 308 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: be talking a bunch about this heading into next year, 309 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: in the pending looming disaster that it will be. Emails 310 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: that rolled in to Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. First 311 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: one came from Rob. I'm a real estate agent and 312 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm self employed. I set up a corporation and made 313 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: myself an employee to save taxes. I'm the only employee, 314 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: yet I have to pay for a program I will 315 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: never use. How is that fair for a person like me? 316 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: One thing I would like to know? And next time 317 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: I have maybe h when Max is in on Friday, 318 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: assuming he's an on Friday for Freedom Friday, last Freedom 319 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: Friday of the year, by the way, this Friday, because 320 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: I'm off next Friday. 321 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: So that's the only reason why. But I was there. 322 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: Let me get to the point. Was there an opt out? 323 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: Even suggested I am assuming not. I think the whole 324 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: program for paid family medical leave is contingent on getting 325 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: as many people on board to go and cover it. 326 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: But there really should be an opt out. I'm not 327 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: going to be taking this. I can't take this. I 328 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: already have a means to take the time off even 329 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: if I get sick. And yet, if you make one 330 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year, and you can do the 331 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: math up or down on this, right, So, if you 332 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: make one hundred thousand dollars a year, it's going to 333 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: cost you about eight hundred dollars a year, whether you 334 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: take the time off or not. So you can just 335 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: start doing the math and breaking it down. If you 336 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: make sixty thousand, you're gonna be looking at, you know, 337 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: somewhere around probably like five hundred, five hundred and fifty 338 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: dollars a year just taken from you, whether or. 339 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: Not you take all that time off or not. 340 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: And to that point, Lynn writes in my seventeen year 341 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: old high schooler came home from his part time job 342 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: last week with a big smile on his face, proudly 343 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: showing me the notice from his employer about paid family leave. 344 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: We spent an hour discussing the pros and cons of 345 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: this policy and how under our roof there was no 346 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: reason for him to use it. I can only imagine 347 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: so many other young people who are not having this 348 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: conversation and instead being further indoctrinated into this sick socialism 349 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: at best. 350 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: No, Lynn is absolutely right. 351 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: I had an email from a friend of the show 352 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: who said that he would be having to he will 353 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: have to take advantage of this next year. He's dealing 354 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: with some issues and that in order to take the 355 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: other time off, and I think the other time off 356 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: that he typically would have isn't even available anymore. And 357 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: he was conflicted. He was like, am I doing something wrong? 358 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: It's like, no, two things can be the same. You know, 359 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: two things can be true, and in this case, you 360 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: can be opposed to the program. But also if you're 361 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: in a certain situation and you have to take advantage 362 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: of it, yeah, you should take advantage of it. You're 363 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: paying into it already. Why wouldn't you? I mean, and 364 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: therein lies how nefarious this paid family medical leave is. 365 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: But it is gross. 366 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: And as I said late last week and I'll repeat 367 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: it now, pay family medical leave heading into next year 368 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 2: is going to be the next biggest story in the 369 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: negative category for Minnesota, just below the fraud that we've 370 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: just to hit the tip of the iceberg on. Because 371 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: pay family medical leave is going to impact every single 372 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: working taxpayer from the employer all the way down to 373 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: every single employee, and you have no choice, and you're 374 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 2: going to be losing hundreds of dollars a year in 375 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: this program. You know, I give the media a hard 376 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: time and they deserve it. Don't mist understand they have 377 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: done reporting on these things. I just I want to 378 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: stress that. I mean, most recently, louverra goosover at Cara 379 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: Levin the reporting that he's done in calling out specifically 380 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: over the weekend, how Mayor Melvin Carter out of Saint 381 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: Paul was straight up lying about these issues that we've 382 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: been talking about relating to fraud and who discovered the 383 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: fraud first. Governor Tim Wallas did the same thing. There 384 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: has been investigative reports into these items of fraud before. 385 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: So it is a mistake to say that the media 386 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: never covered this stuff. 387 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: And I've mentioned as much on the show. 388 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: You know, the problem is we don't have leadership that 389 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: goes and calls it out and addresses it and wants 390 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: to take care of it. 391 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: That's a part of the problem. 392 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: The media aspect of it is more about the lack 393 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: of follow up and specifically ignoring elected officials voices that 394 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: could raise awareness of the issues. 395 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: They'll touch upon the fraud, but then. 396 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: When you have any Republicans speaking out against it, they'll 397 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: just simply go and ignore them. Therein lies where the 398 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: media aspect issue of this comes into play. But then 399 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: you have from the leadership aspect, you don't have Democrats 400 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: that are calling it out. Democrats would go and get attention. 401 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls should have stepped up a long time 402 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: ago relating to the fraud and called it out, but 403 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: he went and ignored it over and over again. And 404 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: the same thing rings true right now when it comes 405 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: to this paid family medical leave. 406 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: It got covered when. 407 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: They were debating it, but none of the complaints, the 408 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: criticism and concerns of Republicans were ever brought to the 409 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: forefront on this issue before the Democrats went and rammed 410 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: it through. And even when you had some Democrats protesting 411 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: this last year saying can we at least put a 412 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: pause on this, those voices got ignored by those that 413 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: are in the tank for the Democrats that were making 414 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: sure that they were towing the party line by even 415 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: ignoring a handful of those Democrats that were in opposition 416 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: just wanting a delay because the businesses were saying, we 417 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: cannot afford this. 418 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 9: John chuck Up and Blaine, it is very obvious this 419 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 9: government family leave is really going to be set up 420 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 9: for government workers. There is going to be no debate, 421 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 9: no fight, no chance of layoffs. And I really think 422 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 9: it's going to be abused. Imagine that another abused Pearl 423 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 9: program under Tim wolves By. 424 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 425 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: No, absolutely absolutely it's going to be abused. There's no 426 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: doubt about that. Just wait, just gonna take a long 427 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: enough timeline. 428 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 10: My husband and I built a house in Wisconsin last 429 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 10: year and are living in Wisconsin but working in Minnesota. 430 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 10: And I at this point am looking for a job 431 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 10: in Wisconsin so that I do not have to participate 432 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 10: in these crazy things that are happening in Minnesota that 433 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 10: are caught us hundreds and hundreds of dollars that we 434 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 10: are never going to be able to recoup from. It's 435 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 10: just insane. 436 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: Let me provide for you another example of just how 437 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: things end up flying under the radar. If the details 438 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: that Nolan West shares in this video, which was posted 439 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: on social media, if you'd flipped the script and this 440 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: was somebody aligned with conservatives or Republicans in any way, 441 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: it would have been a major story. 442 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: This is the. 443 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Outstanding Refuge of the Year award winner. Photographs taken with 444 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls of this individual who ended up going 445 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: to trial and I believe admitting guilty for fraud relating 446 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: defeating our Future. 447 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: Me Ion abu Kar. 448 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 11: In twenty twenty one, she won the Outstanding Refugee Entrepreneurship 449 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 11: Award from the Minnesota Department of Human Services. Just a 450 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 11: few years her nonprofits generated over five point seven million 451 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 11: in revenue. 452 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: How amazing. 453 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 11: Today she's a convicted felon who helps steal millions meant 454 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 11: to feed hungry children, and her story perfectly illustrates Minnesota's 455 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 11: fraud epidemic. So sit back and enjoy the unbelievable story 456 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 11: of Ayan Abukar. When COVID hit and government money started 457 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 11: flowing from a fire hose, Ion saw an opportunity. She 458 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 11: signed up her nonprofit for Feeding Our Future, which we 459 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 11: all now know for their quarter of a billion dollar 460 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 11: fraud scheme. And from October twenty twenty to early twenty 461 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 11: twenty two, she claimed that her sights in Bloomington, Minneapolis, 462 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 11: Savage Saint Paul were feeding five thousand or more kids daily. 463 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 11: In reality, no sites actually existed and the kids didn't 464 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 11: exist either. Prosecutors say that she alone pocketed five point 465 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 11: seven million dollars. Quite the entrepreneur, I would say, what 466 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 11: did she do with the money? Well, she bought a 467 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 11: thirty seven acre commercial property in Lakeville. She purchased a 468 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 11: jet in Nairobi, Kenya, and she sent hundreds of thousands 469 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 11: of dollars back overseas to who knows who. 470 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: She bought a jet. There's your our three podcast title. 471 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: She bought a jet. 472 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 11: And to keep all this scam running smoothly, she gave 473 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 11: three hundred and thirty thousand dollars to a Feeding Our 474 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 11: Future employee to make sure that her invoices sailed through. 475 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: But it gets worse. 476 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 11: Her fraudulent company, Dimespeak Enterprise, shared the same address as 477 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 11: a childcare center run by her daughter and one that 478 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 11: recently had its license revoked for you guessed it fraud. 479 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 11: In January twenty twenty five, ion Abu Kar stood in 480 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 11: federal court and pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud. 481 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 11: Sentencing is still pending, but thankfully she faces years in prison. 482 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 11: But this is not just one bad apple. Many of 483 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 11: the defendants and Feeding our Future have connections to fraudulent 484 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 11: autism centers, just another fraud thing. In Minnesota. We have 485 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 11: seen massive fraud across our state in childcare assistance, food 486 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 11: for children, autism centers, and homelessness programs. Even it's systemic 487 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 11: and frankly, it's embarrassing. And if this makes you angry, 488 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 11: I mean it makes me laugh sometimes, but man, it 489 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 11: makes me angry. Well it should share this video because 490 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 11: we need people to know so we can get real answers. 491 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 11: We need to make it impossible to block real reform 492 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 11: as has been done repeatedly in the past. 493 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: It's representative Nolan West, you know. And to the I 494 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: have another clip that I want to play. I think 495 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: I can sneak it in before. Are these occurrent out 496 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: times the correct ones here? 497 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 5: Right? 498 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: Okay? Great little on air production meeting. 499 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: So Ben Shapiro had a lengthy piece in The Daily 500 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: Wire earlier this week what did il Han Omar know 501 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: and when did she know it? And he points out 502 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: that in the New York Post reporting and also the 503 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: New York Times, the fraud that was perpetuated, especially Underfeeding 504 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: our Future, This happened inside of Ilhan Omar's district, and 505 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: her defense has been everybody who mentioned this stuff is 506 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: just racist. 507 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about this earlier. 508 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: It's important to note, though, just how brazen these individuals 509 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: have become. 510 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: If il haan. 511 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: Omar you flipped the script again on any of this, 512 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: and these are concerns of anybody aligned with the right 513 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: and fraud in districts of Republicans, You and I both 514 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: know what the commentary would be. I mean the the 515 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: ties that il Han Omar had to the numerous individuals 516 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: that have been caught up in fraud. But of course 517 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: she knew nothing. Now I want to hop into the 518 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: wayback machine one more time. Jake Can seventy two had 519 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: grabbed this online. I saw it as I was prepping 520 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: for the show this morning. You go back to June 521 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, and this was during the two 522 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollar Feeding our Fraud trial Feeding 523 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: Our Future. The defendants didn't just try to steal money, 524 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: they tried to buy the jury. This is how brazen 525 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 2: things got. This is only over a handful of individuals 526 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: regarding Feeding our Future, not everybody. And yet here is 527 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: the former US attorney here in Minnesota, Andy Luger laying 528 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: out how this was straight out of a mob movie. 529 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: What took place, ibury is a serious federal crime. An 530 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: unknown woman showed up at the home of. 531 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 12: A jur That unknown woman, US attorney Andy Luger says 532 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 12: is thirty one year old Laddin Ali, and this is 533 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 12: reporting from care eleven. Ali and four men are now 534 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 12: charged with a rare crime. Corruptly influencing a. 535 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: Juror corruption of a jury through intimidation or bribery is 536 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: a serious federal crime that carries a significant prison sentence. 537 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 12: In Lucer's press conference Wednesday, he highlighted how Ali flew 538 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 12: to Minnesota from Seattle, where she also has ties. 539 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: Dur fifty two, leaving a parking ramp. 540 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 12: Luger says Ali surveiled the youngest in only juror of color. 541 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Following her home from the courthouse. 542 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 12: Over three days, Ali allegedly drove by Juror fifty two's 543 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 12: Spring Lake Park home nineteen times. This heat map created 544 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 12: by the FBI shows the amount of time Ali spent 545 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 12: near the juror's home according to her rental car's GPS data. 546 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 12: Directed by four men, including three standing trial for stealing 547 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 12: more than forty million dollars from the federal child nutrition 548 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 12: program during the pandemic. The defendants are accused of a 549 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 12: sophisticated plot to get to Juror fifty two with money, 550 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 12: then detailed instructions on how to convince the rest of 551 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 12: the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the 552 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 12: government of being racist against the Somali immigrants. After being 553 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 12: driven back to Juror number fifty two's house by this man, 554 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 12: Abdul Karim Fara Ali is accused of bringing one hundred 555 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 12: and twenty thousand dollars cash to the door and promising 556 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 12: Juror fifty two's family member that more money would come 557 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 12: after than not guilty verdict. A scene right out of 558 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 12: a mob movie. 559 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: This is more than just a mob movie. This is 560 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: a chilling attack on our system of justice. 561 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 12: Luger stressed how rare the attempted bribe of a juror 562 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 12: is nationwide. 563 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: But it just doesn't happen in Minnesota. 564 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 12: In fact, Caro Levin News was only able to find 565 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 12: one other documented case in our state in nineteen sixty one, 566 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 12: during an actual mob trial taking place in Minneapolis involving 567 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 12: the kid can liquor syndicate. 568 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop this here just because of time. It 569 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: does make me wonder like what. 570 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: Like I understand why okay, but also why, I mean, 571 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: why was this so important to protect these particular individuals? 572 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: What is it that made them again? 573 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: Zero in on one juror, the youngest on the panel, 574 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: believed to be the only person of color on the panel, 575 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: pulled their address, did a complete background check online footprint, 576 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: then stalked the individual for days, flew in a courier 577 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: from Seattle to drop the Hallmark gift bag stuffed with 578 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars cash on the relative's doorstep. 579 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: Vote not guilty on every count. There's more money coming again, 580 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: and the claim would be the prosecution was racist to 581 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: go to the juror and flip the other jurors one 582 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: by one. Thankfully that juror didn't flinch. All five conspirators 583 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: folded and pleaded guilty. 584 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: As of this. 585 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: Month, the courier Ladon Ali, who delivered the bribe, still 586 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: walks free out on release waiting for sentencing. And yet 587 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: you still have individuals out there that just want to 588 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: say no, no, no, no no, we just have to 589 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: ignore anything but the corruption taking place, we cannot point 590 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 2: to the individuals involved in perpetuating that corruption. Nope, all right, 591 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: Tomorrow on the show, we'll talk a lot about Hennepin County. 592 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a city paid 593 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: prints sing Along, three point five million in planning for 594 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: the future of George Floyd Square without anything being done, 595 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: and a proposal of forty million dollars on disparity elimination 596 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: within the Hennepin County budget. So if you miss any 597 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: portion of today's show, check out the podcast available up 598 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: on the iHeart Radio app. Have yourself a fantastic Tuesday. 599 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: Be wary of the storm, but do not fret. We 600 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: will be back live tomorrow starting at six to six. 601 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: Have a great day. Thanks for hanging out this morning. 602 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Bye.