1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: It's Night with Dan Ray on going you Mazy Boston's 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: News Radio. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, SuSanA's Night Side with Dan Ray and Bradley 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: for Dan tonight, and we have a Christmas Eve Quig 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Fitzgerald our car guy, but so much more in tonight. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: I guess Christmas was burned out quickly. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: It was. 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: It was a morning affair today and we were pretty 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: much everybody was kind of napping by about one o'clock 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: this afternoon, So thanks for coming in. It just so 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: happens there. There was a new year, by the way, yeah, 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: with it a lot of new year automotive stuff such 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: as EV sales, tax credits, driving laws. There are new 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: laws all over the place, correct, and we need to 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: see if anything's changed in our region. But first, as always, 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: let me ask you what are you driving tonight? Craig 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: gets cars not given but loan to him so he 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: can check them out and write about that, correct, And 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: what are we driving today? What kind of review do 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: you give it? So? 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: I drove the Hunt Day Palisade, which is the same 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 4: vehicle as the Kia Tell You Ride, which I liked 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: a lot. I like the styling of the Tell You 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 4: Ride a bit better. But they're essentially the same vehicle. 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: They work the same same powertrain and everything. 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 2: What's the of it again? 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 4: This is a Hyundai Palasadde, which is the eight passenger 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: full size suv three rows. Very high end, but significantly 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: cheaper than you would spend on something. 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: Like a Tahoe. When you say high end, what do 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: you mean? 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: I mean high end materials, like quality materials, nice leather interior, 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: you know, touchscreens all over the place, flat screen panels 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: for Apple car Play, and all of that which you 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: to expect. 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Now. 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: Good heated seats, by the way, really warm heated steering wheel. 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Those are things we would have poop pooed in the past, 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: but now they're here. They were luxuries are thing now necessities. Yeah, 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean the. 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: Power windows there, yo, I mean power windows, heated seats, 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: all of that. That's almost like opening ante. Now you know, 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 4: air conditioning, You've got it. Like, you can't sell the 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: car with any without any of that. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: See. I've never felt the need for heated seats, but 46 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 2: when somebody has them, I say, what's going on? What's 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: going on down there? 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: You get really quickly, you know, And and I actually 49 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: I was out with my daughter this morning and she said, geez, 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: I wish I had a heated steering wheel in my car. 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: And I said, you know, I never really thought about it, 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: but once you have. 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: It, it's that exists. Heated steering wheel. 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty nice and it's not it's not hot, 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: but it's just warm enough. 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: That you don't need to wear your gloves right away. 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: Let's say you're in the thinking tank. Yes, sir, what 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: are you going to come up with next? 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: Well? 60 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: See, so this is the issue in the industry is 61 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: all of these things have now filtered down to the 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: cheapest car that you can buy. So you can buy 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 4: a relatively inexpensive you know, Ford Ford Escape, which they're 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: going to discontinue next year. 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Uh, that's got. 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: All of this technology and all of these nice features, 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: even in the mid trim level, which which is nice 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: for somebody who doesn't want to spend a ton of money. 69 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: You need to come back with this, You need to 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: come up with some new novelty that might become a necessity. 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Have any ideas? 72 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: I don't, so, so something now we're now down to 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: like massaging. 74 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: I was gonna say massages or pedicure, right, So this 75 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: has massaging seats in it which turn on auto that 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: it does, so you you know, and this used to 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: be exclusively for like Mercedes and BMW and the S 78 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: class of Mercedes, not you know, your your regular you know, 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: run of the mill Mercedes. 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: But you know it comes on automatically when you've been 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: in the car for say half an hour. It turned 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: on on the way here coming in from Holliston, and 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: it's it's kind of nice. I wouldn't buy or not 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: buy a car based on whether it had it or not, though, 85 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: so so I think all of the things that people 86 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: really wanted, heated seats, air conditioning, power windows, that's that's 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: all done now. 88 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: At one point there would be nothing more you cant right, correct, 89 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: And what happened I don't know. I don't know, and 90 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what happens when all of you used 91 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: to see these things, you know, like you would drive 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: an S class and you'd go, oh, heated seats is 93 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: pretty nice, you know, or uh, you know, the first 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: cars that had power windows were you know, it wasn't 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: the Chevyes, it was the you know, it was the 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: Cadillacs and power windows. 97 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but but now you know that's that's you can 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: you basically cannot find a car without those now, So 99 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: it's what what's happened is it's come to the point 100 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: where economies of scale start to work for you where okay, 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: well the switches are cheaper than a window crank and 102 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, we have to put a mode are 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: in it, but we're gonna put motors in every one, 104 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: and there's no point in having two vehicles on the 105 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 4: line that one has a power window motor and one doesn't. 106 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: So you start to get these things, all not for free, 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: but it just comes as part of the base package 108 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: of the vehicle. 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: Well, I guess one of the things that could come 110 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: next would be, I mean, where you're gonna go except 111 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: for on a uh self driving. 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be it, which is already you know, yes, 113 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 4: so that's a technology that is in its infancy at 114 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: the moment. 115 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: It's not really self driving. You used it and it worked, Yeah, 116 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: I like it a lot, really, so I use both. 117 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: Blue Cruise, which is of Fords, and Super Crews, which 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: is Chevy's version of this. It's not self driving. So 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: what it is is basically a really intelligent cruise control. 120 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: So it's it's you know, monitoring the distance of the 121 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: vehicle in front of you. However, it'll also change lanes 122 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: for you and you don't need to touch the steering wheel, 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 4: which is pretty nice and I liked it. I enjoyed it, 124 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: but it doesn't drive the car like if you know, 125 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: what I think of as self driving is Okay, I'm 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: starting out in Hartford, Connecticut, and I want to get 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: the Boston and I want to you know, check out 128 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: behind the wheel and just get me there. I put 129 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: in the address and you just drive me there. That's 130 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: we don't have We're not even close to that yet. 131 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: Do you think people really care about safety? And the 132 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: reason I asked you ask this is if safety were 133 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: a true priority, wouldn't at some point we have cars 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: and roads that are like slot cars. Basically you can't 135 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: get in an accident because the car, even the road, 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: even the intersection won't let your car go right through 137 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: it if there's a car coming the other way. So 138 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: you have there's two questions there. One, do people really 139 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: care about safety? 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: Again? And the answer is yes, right so they It 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: used to be prior to. 142 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: The nineteen eighties, you basically just drove what the auto 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: manufacturer gave you you didn't care. It's uh cool, it's fast, 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: it looks good, whatever. No head ress that was the 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: fow aaddress. No collapsible steering columns, no seatbelts like, all 146 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: of that stuff was mandated in nineteen sixty seven. Then 147 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: all of a sudden in the eighties, safety became something 148 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: that a manufacturer could market. So they Volvo they they're 149 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: a manufacturer that that really invented safety marketing, and then 150 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: Mercedes did it, and then SUPERU did it, and they 151 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: all realized, like, the average person who buys our car 152 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: is not an enthusiast. They're a mom or a dad 153 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: who's carting their kids around and they want to keep 154 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: them as safe as possible. So if a manufacturer can 155 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: then and say, hey, look our car performs better and 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: crash tests than card B and C does, that's a 157 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: that's absolutely something people are interested in. 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: But do you think they would be interested in cars 159 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: that could not crash and intersections that would not allow 160 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: you to go through if there are a car coming 161 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 2: things like that? And speed limit your car simply can't 162 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: go faster than speed speed limit. They can up the 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: speed limits right like now it's sixty five, you go 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: seventy four, right, just make it seventy five? Car just 165 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: won't go any faster than that? What about that? 166 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: So there have so I think the the in let's 167 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: get you right, Let's get the answer to that. 168 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: After this got it all right, let's take a break 169 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: here on WZ. 170 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: Night Side with Danny and Boston's news radio. 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: That's right, Bradley Jay and for Dan tonight, this says 172 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: night Side, we're with Craig Fitzgerald. He's our car guy. 173 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: And I was asking Craig about safety and whether people 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: really cared about safety, whether it's kind of just theater, right, 175 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I feel they don't really care 176 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: about safety. It would be safer to have automated enforcement 177 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: of traffic laws, but nobody's I don't think anybody's interested 178 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: in that. As a matter of fact, I might bring 179 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: that up as a topic later on. I think I 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: have a way that people would like. But any address, 181 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: you were talking about Volvo safety, et cetera. 182 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: So what we were talking about the second part of 183 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: your question was about do we actually make it impossible 184 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: to run a red light? 185 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: Right? 186 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: So, is there's a technology that would that exists that 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: would like a stock Chira. So part of this is 188 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 4: an infrastructure problem, which we know we're not going to 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 4: spend bazillions of dollars on infrastructure. 190 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: We're just not going to do it. 191 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard enough to get a bridge replaced, 192 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: let alone, you know, and who's going to be electrification 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: of the I. 194 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: Was going to be the first manufacturer. 195 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: I can't go right, right, So so but there's there's 196 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: a lot of what's happening now is a lot of 197 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: what's called V to V, which is vehicle to vehicle communication. 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: So vehicles will be able to communicate with each other 199 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 4: and know where they are in an intersection and avoid 200 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: each other. 201 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: So you eliminate the middle yes person, yes, right, your 202 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: car consensus a car that you can't see coming down 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: Oak Street. 204 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: And you're starting to see that now with like, you know, 205 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: your car is modern enough that it has lane keeping 206 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: assists and also let you know when somebody's in the 207 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: blind spot next to you, so blind spot monitoring. 208 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: GIST and my favorite thing, the fancy adapted cruise control 209 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: is the greatest, right, So all of those things, they're 210 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: kind of like the precursor to what exactly what you're 211 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: talking about. So I would. 212 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 4: I'd be willing to bet that twenty twenty five years 213 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: from now, you're going to have exactly what you want, 214 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: which is, you know, you're not able to blow a 215 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 4: red light anymore. 216 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: So. So the other thing is this vehicle to vehicle 217 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: communication and this vehicle to infrastructure communication, which is there's 218 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: a red light, that red light is communicating to the 219 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: cars that are coming up to the red light to 220 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: let them know it stopped and they will not be 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: able to go. You know. 222 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 4: There there probably is some manual override for that, but 223 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: you'd need to stop first, you'd you know, So this 224 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: is theoretical at this point, but vehicle to infrastructure technology 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: is absolutely coming. 226 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: So you could have a red light that made your 227 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: yes car stop. Yeah, that. 228 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: With you know that that would start out by alerting 229 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: you with an audible and a visual alert and then would. 230 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: Stop the car, just like adaptive cruise control stops you correct. Correct. 231 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 232 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: So that's all know in the books. Now that's all happening. 233 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk to Bob in Tewkesbury. Bob in Tewksbury, 234 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: kielieving Merry Christmas is happy Holidings to everybody. 235 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 5: How's ever were doing out there. 236 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: Howat I'm having. 237 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: A wonderful Christmas. I've been watching some basketball, but I 238 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: want to talk about public safety. There's a couple of 239 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 5: things I like to share with the public, and that 240 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,359 Speaker 5: is that back in the nineteen eighties, my two cocks 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 5: cast a law Mad Mothers again drug driving. People should 242 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: wear their seatbelts and their chosen to keep the public safe. 243 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: Because I care about public safety, I never had a 244 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 5: driver's license. I've always taken public transportation. I went to 245 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: driving school when I was a young man in high school. 246 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: But I. 247 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: Didn't have the opportunity to have account because I always 248 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: rely on public transfer or taxis. They share more taxi 249 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: services for people. But there's another thing too. Make sure 250 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: you tell the public and the people to have smoke detectives. 251 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: The Okay, thank you very much, Bob. I appreciate that 252 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: we're kind of talking about cars and us. 253 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: But so the the point here is is, you know, 254 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: like in the eighties, I pay pretty close attention to 255 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: the number or the rate of highway deaths every year. 256 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: Right. 257 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: So there's a really good list that comes from Nizza 258 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: that's on Wikipedia that'll show you the rate of highway 259 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: deaths every year from nineteen twenty four on. 260 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: And as as his thing, his name was Bob Right. 261 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: His point was, in the eighties we started paying attention 262 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: to this stuff. We passed stricter drunk driving laws. We 263 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 4: started to pass we had to do it twice here 264 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: in Massachusetts, a seatbelt law. And when we did, you 265 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: can see those that death rate start to plummet. So 266 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: we went from somewhere around five per hundred thousand or 267 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: sorry cer per trillion vehicle miles traveled, that's around five 268 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 4: deaths per and we're down now to like one point three. 269 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: We cut that number by five because we were we 270 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: got really serious about safety in this country. 271 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: And what were the major changes. 272 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty seven was the most responsible before that drop. 273 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: Most responsible for that drop is a nineteen sixty seven 274 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: we we enacted federal motor vehicle safety standards, right, so 275 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: they were there were something like thirteen of them. That 276 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: was like, literally, the car has to have seatbelts in it, 277 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: it has to have a collapsible steering column, you have. 278 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: To have headdress, right. 279 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: And then from there we started getting seat belt laws, 280 00:14:54,520 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 4: We started doing really strict drunk driving enforcement, and you 281 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: and then once you got into the nineties, ABS air bags, 282 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: and then beyond that traction control and stability control. Those 283 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: things all together have just it's a precipitous drop since 284 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties. 285 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: Are there any numbers that compare the deaths per trillion 286 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: to the rate of traffic enforcement? Use? Traffic enforcement for 287 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: a number of reasons is significantly down. Correct in Massachusetts anyway, 288 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: And I was wondering if accidents start to edge up 289 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: when enforcement goes down. 290 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: I haven't seen those two things put together. One thing 291 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: I will say is that one thing I was most 292 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: wrong about in the last decade or so was during 293 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: the pandemic, when highways for about six months were largely empty. 294 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: Traffic was way down, we were driving last I anticipated 295 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: that you were going to see a really significant drop 296 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: in highway deaths. 297 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Didn't happen. 298 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: And one of the reasons for that is because people 299 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: started driving a lot faster when there's no traffic on 300 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: the road. They were just wailing it and there was 301 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: no enforcement happening at that point. That that I was 302 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: surprising to see that we are our miles traveled for 303 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: that year dropped, and just highway deaths didn't at all. 304 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: I see enforcement in place on the highway in New 305 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: Hampshire but not Massachusetts. No, And I kind of I 306 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: like driving in New Hampshire. I like seeing the state 307 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: ee yeah on the road there. 308 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're always, I know, they're always right after 309 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: the tollbooths and they're pulling people over like they're they 310 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: don't fool around there. 311 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: I'ven't been on ninety three up there in a while. 312 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what the enforcement's like there. I feel 313 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: like drivers and I'm not even going to start on scooters. 314 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Actually I may start on them later, but automotive car 315 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: drivers seem to now know that there's no, there's not 316 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: a lot of enforcement. Oh there, let's say there's less enforcement. 317 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: And I was in an uber going from my house 318 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: to a fancy hotel for my birthday and it took 319 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, almost an hour to go like three 320 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: miles up Boilston traffic in this city, and people are 321 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: blocking the box. The traffic cycles over and over and 322 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: no one would go, couldn't go, and and people got 323 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: out of their lane and it started to look like uh, saigone. 324 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: Or yeah, I don't know what's going on in this 325 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: city now where rush hour starts at two o'clock in 326 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: the afternoon. 327 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's brutal trying to get out 328 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: of here. Also, I try, I try to go to 329 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: New Hampshire early in the morning and yeah, beat the traffic. 330 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: And I don't really, but I am thunderstruck when I 331 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: see the traffic coming the other way at six am. 332 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: It's already there's a traffic jam from the Tobin t yep. 333 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: Pretty close. Yeah. 334 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: My wife imagine when she she comes into into town. 335 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: She works in government center, goes in there twice a week. 336 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: She leaves the house at five thirty in the morning. 337 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: I'd rather avoid the traffic. 338 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: I'd rather live in town with some strange roommate. Yeah 339 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: than drive. Make that drive. Yeah, it's help us drive. 340 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: Justin will talk to you right after this break on WBZ. 341 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 342 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: news radio. 343 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: That's right, this is Nightside with Dan Ray. Some of 344 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 2: you may be saying, that's not Dan Ray. Who is 345 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: that guy? Well, my name's Bradley J. And if you 346 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: want to know a little bit more about me, you 347 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: can just do Bradley J. J A y dot Orgus 348 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: B I a dally Why Jay dot o r g 349 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: our guest is Quig Fitzgerald. I call him the car 350 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: guy because that's really what he is. I could get 351 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: into what he does for you write for a See, 352 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: I should have just said, kick Fitzgerald, what's your job 353 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: in where I am A I'm a senior editor with 354 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: a with a company called DCI Marketing out in uh Mission, Milwaukee. Yeah, 355 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: and uh I write a lot for Subaru, I do 356 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: some work for Kia. I do some a bit for GM. 357 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: I used to be one of the editors at Haming's 358 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: Motor News. Contributed to the Globe for a long time. Yeah. 359 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: Also very funny. Well thanks, I follow you on LinkedIn. Yeah, 360 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: it seems to be where you hang. That's where I 361 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: hang mostly now. 362 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 363 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: I tried to get off of the meta platforms and 364 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: you are, I guess one of the funniest people on there. Well. Thanks, 365 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: that's really nice to hear. I was a who posts. 366 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: So how do they find you? Just search Craig fitz 367 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: John Lincoln. 368 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 369 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: Sure, Actually, you know you find you on there, You'll 370 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: find me because I'm connected to you. 371 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: All right. 372 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: Now we're talking about what's new or what's what's going 373 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 2: to be new and out of motive area stuff stuff 374 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: for twenty six. Well, actually we've gone out before further 375 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 2: than twenty six here into one hundred years from now. 376 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: But we'll bring it back to that and get into 377 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 2: the new laws which will become effective this upcoming year. 378 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: But first we have Justin Justin and Marlborough. 379 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: Hi. Justin, Hi, Hi glady. I always enjoy you hosting 380 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 3: the show and you always have a nice guess. I 381 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: have two things I want to bring up about driving, 382 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: and this first one combines Christmas. The Massachusetts Tirewood Department 383 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: does a pretty good job and promoting drivers to not 384 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: drive drowsy. Yes, and I with society would do more 385 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: of an effort. And I commend society in chastising trunk driving. 386 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: But drowsy driving is almost is just as dangerous in 387 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: my opinion. 388 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 4: Definitely is, definitely is. And interestingly, as Bradley and I 389 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: were talking about this Hyundai Palisade that I'm driving in 390 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: a lot of you know, cars from the twenty twenty 391 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: six model year there these cars are now smart enough 392 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: to monitor whether or not you're paying attention. 393 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: Do they count your eyeblinks? 394 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: They do, so they start to count your eyeblinks. They 395 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: start to count your how often your eyes wander and 396 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: whether they close, the length of the blinks, and it 397 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: will alert you with an audible warning and then a 398 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: flashing warning to say, hey man, it's time to. 399 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: Pull over and get some rest because you're you're starting 400 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: to fall aside. So that's sensitive. Do you think soon 401 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: they'll be able to tell if you're lying or not? Yeah? 402 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: And I would imagine. Well, I mean it's it's not 403 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: that much of a jump from a polygraph to that, right, right. 404 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: And if they can tell if you're lying or not, 405 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: the car can ask you before you start it if 406 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: you've been drinking, right, or if you're tired, right right? Okay? 407 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, So justin good point there, And yes, there is 408 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: technology to try to keep people more aware of their 409 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: their tiredness behind the behind the wheel. 410 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: So you had two points. What was your I think 411 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: he had too. What was the other one? 412 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: Yes, my other point is somewhat driving related, but I 413 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: miss it. But I understand society not wanting people to 414 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: do it. But when I went to high school, I 415 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: was in the family of eight children and it was 416 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: a three mile walk. My mom says, since you're walking, 417 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: you might as well hitchhike. We have a good chance 418 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: of getting a ride. And I enjoyed doing that. But 419 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: I can see driving nowadays it's not safe to pick 420 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: up hitchhikers. But yeah, I got the chance. 421 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: Is it really more dangerous or is it that everybody 422 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 2: knows when the bad things happen? Are people worse now? 423 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: I don't think so. But I just like to play 424 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: a lot with society. 425 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: Honestly, much worse, much worse now, I you know, I 426 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: don't know, like and you know, I think the idea 427 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 4: of hitch hiking, uh really turned off a lot of people, 428 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: I think. And after so we went through this whole 429 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: period in the nineteen seventies and eighties with you know, 430 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: stranger danger and serial killers and all this kind of 431 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: stuff where it was like people were just looking for 432 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: this stuff behind every shadow, you. 433 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: Know, And I preceed h stranger danger. No, I didn't 434 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: learn that. I did for sure in the eighties growing up. 435 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: For sure, stranger danger. No, that was like it was 436 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: like you never take a ride with somebody you don't know, 437 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: like the well yeah exactly exactly, so you know, like 438 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't advocate anybody hitchhiking, but I have hitch before 439 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: in my past, and I have lived to tell the tale. 440 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: Would I pick up anybody at this point? No, I 441 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: would not, No way, because all they would have to 442 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: say is that you did something right right the chart, 443 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: which brings me to knowing all all of this the 444 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: only person. Probably back in the day it was much 445 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: more of an easy going thing so that but it's not. Now. 446 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: Everyone's so petrified that only a you know, dangerous person 447 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: would pick anybody up. The chances are getting picked up. 448 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: There may not be more dangerous people, but the chances 449 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: that of one of them is going to pick you up, 450 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: I think are greater because everyone else is too freaked 451 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: out to pick you up. 452 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've stopped to help people that that are, 453 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: you know, stuck beside the road right and even then, 454 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: like I want to I want to identify who I am. 455 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: I don't want any discomfort about you know, like I'm 456 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: not I'm here to help you. That's it, you know, 457 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: like I don't want anybody to feel about them. I 458 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: am taking advantage of No, not really, I mean, I'm 459 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: gonna tell him my name. I gotta tell him who 460 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: I am name. Yeah, sure, why not? 461 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: Like, if I'm there to help somebody, I will do that. 462 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: I would. I'd give a fake name. You wouldn't even stop, 463 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: would you. I It depends on the situation. I drive 464 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: by and see if it looked like they were faking. Yeah, 465 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: I can't. I'm a sucker. A few Christmas as ago, 466 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: there's a Christmas Street place on Harvard Street by O'Brien's 467 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: the Bar, yep, and by a Modell Model hardware yep. 468 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: There's a guy giving me a SOB story. There's a 469 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: moment in the car and he's out there talking about, Oh, 470 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: I need to get money for getting back to Worcester, 471 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: my wife is et cetera, blah blah blah. And I 472 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: walked on for about twenty steps, and I, you know, 473 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 2: my Christian upbringing made me turn around and get the 474 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: guy twenty bucks right then and there. Not too long 475 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: after that, I told somebody about that, and I said, oh, yeah, 476 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: that guy, he's always out there. 477 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: So yeah. 478 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you keep you keep talking about society justin 479 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: why don't you give me a grade our society A B, 480 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: C or D or e F F. How would you 481 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: judge our society? 482 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 3: I'd like to give them like an eighty two, eighty. 483 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: Two, that's like a that's like a B plus pretty good, 484 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: pretty good. 485 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: And I want to leave you at the chuckle. So 486 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: I had a neighbor chastised me for hitshaking. She says, 487 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell your mother, And I told her, 488 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: I said, who do you think came up with this idea? 489 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anybody's all right, justin thank you, thanks, 490 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah, I don't think anybody's mom is 491 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: giving him advice to hike. Now, you know what, I 492 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: love that he gave such a very very careful and 493 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: eighty two. He could have said abc D exactly. He 494 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: could have rounded it off to eighty eighty two, not 495 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: eighty three, not eighty one. He ran maybe he checked 496 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: with Chad GPT, could have or something. Who's running a survey. Okay, 497 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: you know we still have to get to the new laws. 498 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: So let's start that. After this break on WBZ, it's. 499 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio. 500 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: It is Nightside Bradley Jay for Dan Ray against is 501 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: Craig Fitzgerald. And now we're gonna finally after having a 502 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: lot of farm get into some upcoming driving rules laws 503 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: for this next year. Now does this for the state 504 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: or is it? Are there any local ordinances? 505 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 4: So so what I did was take a look at 506 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: all of the new laws pertaining to driving in the 507 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: six New England. 508 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: Stuff. 509 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 510 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: So you know, this is the time when you know 511 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 4: there's a lot of you know, ballot initiatives and stuff 512 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: that you can talk about and then you kick in 513 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 4: at the first of the year. 514 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: And and the thing is it surprises people every year. 515 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I didn't know this. 516 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 4: So in Massa choose it's really the only big one 517 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: is Massachusetts was one of the few states that required 518 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: rental car companies to ensure their own vehicles. Right, so 519 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: if you rented a car from enterprise and you chose 520 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: not to take the insurance and you've got an accident, 521 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 4: they were going to eat the cost of that. 522 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. They would come after you, 523 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: they'd try to come after you, but at the end 524 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: of the day they were going to eat the cost 525 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: of that. In twenty twenty six, now the primary insurance 526 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: holder when you rent a car is going to be you. 527 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: It's going to be the renter. So the companies off 528 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: the hook, right, the company is a bit of the hook. 529 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: Now the was so so it's this way in most states. 530 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: It's like, we're one of ten states that didn't do 531 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: it that way, you know, And it makes sense. You're 532 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 4: responsible for the car, you're renting the car, you're but 533 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: but what happened. 534 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: The argument was that. 535 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: Rentals in Massachusetts were more expensive than they were another. 536 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: It's they're going to pass the savings onto us. They 537 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: are not. They are not. Did never never, any company 538 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: ever never passed the savings on They're never going to 539 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: pass the savings onto you. You're never going to go 540 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: in there done it. And so it was the lobby, 541 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: insurance lobby, that's well, it was a rental car lobby. 542 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: That was you know, whoever that is, I don't know, 543 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: you know that they got a hold of somebody and said, hey, look, 544 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: you know we do this in forty other states. Why 545 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: are you the exception? 546 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 4: Because we want to be, because we want to be 547 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: because that's why the right and at the end of 548 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 4: the day, you know, as a as a consumer, that 549 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: is protection for you. Yes, all right, you know, if 550 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: I chose not to get the insurance and I crashed 551 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: into you know, or somebody rear ended me. 552 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: It's not my fault. Why should I be responsible for that? 553 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 4: Even if I didn't take the insurance, now you're gonna 554 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: be Now that's gonna go to your vehicle insurance as 555 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 4: primary coverage. So you know, I understand it to a degree, 556 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: but I also don't think it's a consumer protection at all. 557 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: I think we're a little bit worse off you. 558 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Oh would I would say, yes, Now, what do we 559 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: do to protect ourselves? We just got to make sure 560 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: that we are I have some special level of insurance, Yeah. 561 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: My insurance. You know, you got to check with your 562 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: insurance company. You just got to make sure that your coverage, 563 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, will transfer to a to a rental car, 564 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 4: you know, which. 565 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: It always does. 566 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: And then you know things like where else do I 567 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: have insurance my rental car or my credit card company 568 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: provide level? 569 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: They say that, well, they do. 570 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: Anyone ever really been covered? They will anything, They will 571 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: cover you. But the problem is that and you know, 572 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: I worked at enterprise for a long time when I 573 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: was in college, and what we used to tell people is, yes, 574 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: your car insurance will cover you. Yes, your AARP or 575 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: triple A will cover you. However, we're coming after you first, 576 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: and you're gonna have to pay for the damages and 577 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 4: then you go after you must have been a heck 578 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: of a salesman, right, I mean the way it is, 579 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: that is how it works, right, So we're gonna come 580 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: after you if you don't take the lost damage waiver 581 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: or whatever it is, the minimum coverage. 582 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: You know, that is the case that they're gonna. They're 583 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: gonna come after you. 584 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: They're gonna present you with a bill that says this 585 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: is twenty thousand dollars worth of damage, whether it was 586 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: your fault or not, and you're gonna have to go 587 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: after your insurance company. 588 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: When you read the carge and you take photos of 589 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: it before you're I don't, and I'm sure I should. 590 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: I thought you would say that I was being no paranoid. No, 591 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: I think you're right. 592 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: And I'll tell you where it is especially important is 593 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: on wheels because every wheel is curbed like everybody runs 594 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: in north curve with something. So it's important to actually 595 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: walk around the car when you pick it up, see 596 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: if there's any damage on it and report it and. 597 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: Do a video and if there's some something inside that's 598 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: out of whack, take a picture of it or sure, 599 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: or go to it and say give me another car. Yep, yep. 600 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: So that's the only big thing in Massachusetts this year, 601 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: and in New Hampshire the big thing is that they're 602 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: no longer going to do safety inspections after the first 603 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: of the year, which is huge, and that kicks in 604 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: on January first. 605 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: Yes, so we've talked about that and you and I, 606 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: and it was interesting to hear from the listeners that 607 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: most people thought that that was a bad idea. 608 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: You know, we can ask that question again right now, Yes, 609 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: six ten thirty. Would you like to see Massachusetts adopt 610 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: the New Hampshire way of doing things and not have 611 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: to have an annual an annual inspection or wherever you 612 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: are doesn't have to be Massachusetts. Would you like to 613 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: see your state be free of the mandatory inspection rule? 614 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: So interestingly, in New Hampshire, I think the thought was, well, 615 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: we're going to be saving fifty dollars a year or 616 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: thirty five dollars a year or whatever not having to 617 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: do these inspections. And simultaneously what happened was they increase 618 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: every transaction that you make at you know, when you 619 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: go to register car, when you go to get a 620 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 4: driver's license, when you go to get a title, like 621 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: all of those fees increased. So the state's going to 622 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: pull in an additional projected thirty one and a half 623 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: million dollars from from fees rather than an actual safety 624 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 4: You know, those New Hampshire numbers, the future New Hampshire 625 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 4: numbers regarding how many people get the inspections anyway, well 626 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: say a little bit. 627 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 2: About how much people care or do not care about safety? 628 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: Right right? 629 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: So I remember back in the eighties Rhode Island, eighties, 630 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: early nineties, Rhode Island didn't have a safety inspection or 631 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 4: it was like this weird like voluntary safety inspection program, 632 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: and every car down there looked like it was out 633 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: of a Doctor Seuss book, you know, like it was 634 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: like what is going on to cars with busted windshields 635 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: and you know, wheels falling off and fenders falling off 636 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 4: and everything. I don't know if that's going to happen 637 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 4: in New Hampshire, but it'd be interesting to see because 638 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: it'll be the only state in New England that doesn't 639 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 4: have a safety inspection. 640 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: So what is likely to go wrong if you don't 641 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: inspect your cars, tires not rusting it. We used to 642 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: be rust. Rust used to be a big thing. Rust 643 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: will be a big thing still. Really, I thought there 644 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: was better metal, more plastic on cars. 645 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: There is more plastic, but things still rust and it's 646 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 4: it's always a problem, so you know, And what it 647 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: affects mostly is trucks and cars from the mid two 648 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 4: thousands or early two thousands that are still out driving 649 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 4: on the road that now have no rocker panels, no 650 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 4: indo fenders, no you know, they're rusted out completely. 651 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: So if you're side view America's knocked off, you don't 652 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 2: have to there's no you know, you could that could 653 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: be a that could be a primary reason for a 654 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: state trooper to pull you over or a town cop 655 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: to pull you over. But the safety inspection isn't going 656 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: to catch it. So no emissions, no ball, tire inspection, 657 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: no no lights, nothing. Do you think people will let 658 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: their tires get really bald? Yes? I know they will. 659 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: They do now when you like if when you do 660 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: inspections here in this state, and I've you know, worked 661 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: at a shop that does inspections, half of the cars 662 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 4: coming in knowing full well that they're going to get 663 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 4: picked up at Bald Tires. 664 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to me as a child, 665 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: but I really hate ball tires. Man. As you know, 666 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: I will just friend picks me up. I'm not testing 667 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: them out or anything, but I just I will randomly 668 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: stick my finger in the tread when I'm getting in 669 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: the car, not to see if it's safe. I just 670 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: love one and I love to tread, so I bald tread. 671 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: And if they have good tread, no, I'll get in 672 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: the car and say nice tread. 673 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 4: Bald tires and tires from brands that I have never 674 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: heard of before. That throws me off. So I was 675 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 4: actually I was looking at a truck this week. I 676 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 4: was looking at eighty two uh Ford F one fifty 677 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 4: that I want to buy, and it had and it's 678 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 4: a brand new tires, and I looked at the tires. 679 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: I was like, I have never heard of this company before. 680 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: I have no idea where they're from. I don't know 681 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 4: if these things are any good or not. So that's like, 682 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 4: that's a reason not to buy that truck. 683 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: Remember Retreads, Yes, when did they go in nineteen sixty seven? 684 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: That? No? 685 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 4: I remember Retreads? I mean, you can still get retread out, 686 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: and they're sore for heavy trucks like and which is 687 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 4: iron because they should not be driving around with retreads. 688 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 4: But yes, you can, you can still get retreads on. 689 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 4: But what happened was it was the shift from biased 690 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 4: ply tires to radials that really made you know, retreads kind. 691 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: Of not a thing. 692 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: You know. 693 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: When I was a younger man, I had an incident 694 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: on Route ninety three involving a retread. It was, you know, 695 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: it's pretty high speed limit up there. Yeah, seventy five 696 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: going by Tilton and starting to go up this big 697 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: long hell pass just past Tilton and right front pal, Yeah, 698 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: and I'm dragging me right into the right I was 699 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: pretty sure that's an eye opener. Sure it really is. 700 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: I had two tires in the span of two days 701 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: blow out on me like that. All right, Well, we're 702 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 2: gonna keep Craig for another hour because we haven't even 703 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: come close to getting all the information that he has 704 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: to offer. So we'll do that. The number here six, one, seven, two, five, four, 705 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: ten thirty. This is nice side would ray Dan's off tonight. 706 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 2: I'm Bradley J. Filling in for Dan, and I mentioned 707 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: it earlier and I realized some of you, many of 708 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: you may not know anything about me, So if you 709 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 2: want a little background, visit my website bradleyja dot org, 710 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 2: b r A d l E y jy dot O 711 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: r G. All right, and again love to have you 712 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: join us. We're here to sort of talk about cars, 713 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: but mostly to have fun and and entertain each other. 714 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty is w 715 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 2: b zy