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Speaker 1: Catching a cheater, one stake, bouquet of roses at a time.

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Speaker 2: Four of the Roses starts right.

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Speaker 3: Now on kt w B.

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Speaker 1: Grace has got over a hacking coughing jag a minute ago.

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Speaker 1: So you know, figures you're gonna be on the radio

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're coughing up a lung.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're doing You're doing okay.

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Speaker 4: Now, Grace, I'm okay, thanks very good.

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Speaker 1: So this is our first War of the Roses of

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Speaker 1: the New Year. And so tell me. I know you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to Katie WB for a while and you've

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Speaker 1: heard us do War of the Roses, But here you

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Speaker 1: are with the situation that's got you wondering whether Todd

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Speaker 1: was doing something when you were in Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: Tell me what's going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I went to Hawaii with my mom for Christmas,

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Speaker 5: just me and my mom. You know, she's been through

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Speaker 5: a rough year. She just decancer. We're so happy, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Good celebratory trip to Hawaii.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she deserved it in her dream trip and I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad I could do.

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Speaker 1: That for her.

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Speaker 5: It was very special for us, and you know, it

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Speaker 5: was a great time until I got home, and I

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Speaker 5: I saw somethings that made me concerned. You know, like,

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Speaker 5: for one thing, we have candles. We use these candles,

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Speaker 5: you know, for special events. You could say, I guess,

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Speaker 5: you know, sexy time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I noticed, you know, they were they were used

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Speaker 5: Were burnt down about halfway more than I had left them. Okay,

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Speaker 5: were used once. I know it was used more than once.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: And that's not like him to just like the sexy

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Speaker 5: No, he's oblivious to candles unless it's sexy time. That's

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I guess we all have our go to

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, that's very interesting.

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Speaker 5: And I was thinking about it while I was gone.

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Speaker 5: There were a couple of times I actually went to

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Speaker 1: So the suspicion is while you are, you know, like

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Speaker 3: And you know, not just over to watch TV and.

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Speaker 1: Get a pizza, but to like sexy time Candley exactly,

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Speaker 6: Okay, so it appears yeah, so what go ahead question?

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Speaker 6: Did you think anything when he wasn't answering the phone

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Speaker 5: Like, oh, that's so weird because he like always answers,

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Speaker 5: He works on his phone, so he's always on his phone.

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Speaker 5: So for him did not call back to like three

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Speaker 1: So things definitely seem a little bit of we should

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Speaker 1: suspicion scale on this one is about a seven. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Maybe he missed her and wanted to reminisce about sexy time. Seven.

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Speaker 3: On a scale of one to ten, BoNT says seven.

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Speaker 6: Okay, reasonable doubt he could have lit the candles and

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to jump to but that's ok to

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Speaker 1: A great idea. Yeah, okay, never mind, all right, hang on.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to laugh about your situation, because I

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Speaker 1: Will it, will make the phone call, and coming up

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Speaker 1: in a second, will offer him flowers to send to

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Speaker 3: On War of the Roses, hang on one second phrase,

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Speaker 1: Part two or the Roses starts right now on KDWB

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Speaker 1: in case you missed the first part of War of

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Speaker 1: the Roses. So she lives with this guy, and she

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Speaker 1: a week and then she came home. Well, when they

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Speaker 1: So she gets home, she's like unpacking looking around the house.

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Speaker 1: She noticed that there are sexy time candles, which are

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Speaker 1: Is it thin evidence?

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Speaker 3: Kind of?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think it's firm. Do you think it is? Yep?

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Speaker 1: We'll make the phone call right now and find out

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Speaker 1: who he wants to send roses to can talk with.

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Speaker 3: Todd.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for taking the time to do the survey with

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Speaker 7: me today. We really appreciate it helps us with all

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Speaker 7: of our customer satisfaction in the future. So, like I said,

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Speaker 7: as a reward for doing the survey, I have a

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Speaker 7: dozen red roses to send out to whoever you'd like.

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Speaker 7: So what I'll need from you is who do you

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Speaker 8: And there's no like cats, there's no extra charge or

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, you're not going to see anything show

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Speaker 7: up on your bill. These are completely complimentary.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I'll let's send them to Her name is

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Speaker 7: All right, I got it down for Miranda. And then

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Speaker 4: To Okay, Okay, is it okay?

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Speaker 8: If if we put just nice panties, is that that

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't mean to laugh. Yeah, we could. We

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Speaker 7: There's really no requirements or whatever. That's if that's what

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Speaker 1: So many questions, so many questions. Hey, Todd, you have

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Speaker 1: been bamboozled. Basically, it's not a survey. It is a

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Speaker 1: trap to see who you would send roses to and

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Speaker 1: who said the trap. It's the Dave Ryan Show over

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Speaker 1: on Katie WB. It always boggles my mind that people

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Speaker 1: doing it for so long. So, yeah, we got a

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Speaker 1: She's and she's actually listening right now, so she's heard

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Speaker 3: So you're pretty busted.

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Speaker 8: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Grace?

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Speaker 5: Really like you you're gonna just do that?

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Speaker 4: Like I heard everything you said.

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Speaker 8: If you're gonna I mean, if you're gonna lay a trap,

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Speaker 8: you know, a public trap on the radio of all places, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: what do you? I don't know what you want me

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just gonna admit it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean what else can I say?

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Speaker 8: Like, yeah, I I I don't know. I sent flowers

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Speaker 8: to the wrong girl. I told her she has nice panties, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you got me busted, red handed. I don't know. You

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Speaker 8: clearly you put whole this whole song and dance together.

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Speaker 8: So how did you know? How did you know something

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Speaker 8: Because I used candles, so you figured it all out.

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Speaker 5: There were other things too, but I knew the candles,

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Speaker 5: I really I can't, and I can't Belie You're still

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Speaker 8: Well, what do you want me to do? Deny it?

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Speaker 4: I mean you got me?

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Speaker 8: Like what can I say?

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Speaker 8: You got me?

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Speaker 3: And yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, no or more so nothing.

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Speaker 8: Listen, you don't you don't know what's going on in

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Speaker 8: You don't know the reasons why I did it.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know a guilt you feel because you

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Speaker 8: For forgiveness, I'm not doing that, like, yeah, you got me.

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Speaker 8: I'm embarrassed. I'm publicly humiliated.

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Speaker 1: But are you going to are you going to fight

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Speaker 1: for this? Because every time we do War of the Roses,

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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: IM too late for that.

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Speaker 4: I'll own what I did.

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Speaker 8: But like to have me gropvel on the on the

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Speaker 8: radio or whatever, that's you're not gonna get that from me,

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Speaker 8: Like I can talk to her privately and maybe yeah,

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Speaker 8: if I if I apologize.

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Speaker 3: Or would you would you accept that?

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Speaker 4: It doesn't appear that you want to apologize for one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if I can't leave for a week without

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Speaker 8: Okay, Well, then there's your answer. That's it is what

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Speaker 8: it is. Then if there's no hopes and like, why

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Speaker 1: You know, am I alone in thinking that he kind

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to fight? I've never heard that. I

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Speaker 3: But it's not what it looks like, right. Is there

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Speaker 2: See? But even like when they do say, oh, it's

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Speaker 6: Well that's what this one text message says. It says

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Speaker 6: what a d bag won't even say sorry? I mean

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Speaker 6: he's clearly not He's not sorry. He sortay got car.

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Speaker 7: It's like the lack of accountability that made me frustrated

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Speaker 3: A lot of text messages.

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Speaker 1: Somebody tell this Miranda, run he's a sociopath.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is War of the Roses first one with

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Speaker 1: a twist of the New Year. If you want to

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Speaker 1: do War the Roses on somebody you know, And by

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Speaker 1: you're not in the couple. It's a little bit devious.

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Speaker 1: But if it's like, Okay, I think my sister's husband

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Speaker 1: we can do war the roses and reverse it even

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Speaker 1: if you're not in the Oh, that's nosy oh,