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Speaker 1: Minnesota Apple Grower Association board member here, I just want

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Speaker 1: to know which orchard Adam is calling in from. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry I did not establish it. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely. But it's a good apple orchard day, nice, crisp, yep, breezy,

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Speaker 1: you know, sunshiny. Well in the advantage when you have

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Speaker 1: any seven degrees a flexible job. That's just you can

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Speaker 1: going to be pretty quiet there. I always think the

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Speaker 1: best time to go to an orchard is during a

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Speaker 1: game just DVR. That's that's my theory on everything. Watch

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Speaker 1: the orchard, and you could say that about any places.

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Speaker 1: Mall of Hysteria is actually, you know, decent to navigate.

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Speaker 1: When the Vikings are playing, there's no better time to

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Speaker 1: go to the mall of his just DV are it?

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Speaker 2: Go?

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Speaker 1: Get your errands done and watch it later. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I'd go to the pine tree apple orchard.

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Speaker 1: That would be my pick. Hi U nine five two

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Speaker 1: guy writes, Dan, you're spot on with your assessment of

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Speaker 1: Mcjesus extension, contrasting with capriceofs. The Athletic outlined it in

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Speaker 1: a peace last night. The wild were on the loser

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Speaker 1: side of the ledger given the bounty they paid the

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Speaker 1: Wilds ninety seven versus the Oilers ninety seven. By ps,

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Speaker 1: the over under for capriceoff games played this year is

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Speaker 1: at fifty nine point five. That is that a cheap

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Speaker 1: shot or is that a legitimate factual? Do they? I

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Speaker 1: assume that's established by they have those nine and a half.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not Vegas, but some of the yeah right, Vegas

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Speaker 1: maybe would not not do it. So missing twenty two

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Speaker 1: twenty three games, that's too many for the quarter of

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Speaker 1: the season. Again, I don't want to have that happen again.

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Speaker 1: Five h seven guys standing tall for the individual suggesting

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Speaker 1: that it's only me perpetuating the code of quarterback controversy angle.

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Speaker 1: He's alluding to the counterfactuals about Rogers and Darnold that

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Speaker 1: you and Common are both talking about day after day.

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Speaker 1: It's a frustrating media jackal narrative because if they had

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Speaker 1: kept Arnold or signed Rogers, y'all probably would have spent

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Speaker 1: this many segments complaining that we didn't give our new

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Speaker 1: you can, if it's easier to dismiss me as the

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Speaker 1: lie to yourself and say that's what I would have said.

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Speaker 1: But I'm on record. It's not that hard to find

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Speaker 1: as saying I would have taken the plunge on Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Vikings had the opportunity to do that. Now,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean if they'd done it and Rogers played poorly,

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Speaker 1: But no, that's not the way this game is necessarily played,

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Speaker 1: the JJA people were right if Rogers struggled and there

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Speaker 1: both ways, because I'm not trying to have it both ways.

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Speaker 1: I on the front end all Long said I would

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Speaker 1: I would take the plunge on Aaron Rodgers. Now I

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Speaker 1: money had ended up being Danny Dimes. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: talk about this with him. That allegedly the Vikings did

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Speaker 1: So I we'll see where it goes. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: That was not That was not the chaos that we

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Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, I think

426
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 2: then when you go, you know, you you can hear

427
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: it in your voice and justin and when you when

428
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: you're doing things that you really like to do, at

429
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: the end of the then it's going to be better.

430
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: And I couldn't think of anything better then going to

431
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: Wrigley Field every day and calling out my office. I've

432
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: been going there since I was four years old, and

433
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: so you know, I love Minnesota. I love the Twins.

434
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: I followed them, and you know, I mean they gave

435
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: me my chance in the big leagues, both as a

436
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: player and as a broadcaster. I mean, you know, so

437
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: two careers work. So you know, it's thanking them for

438
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: everything that they've done for me. But I grew up

439
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: as a kid going to Wrigley and now I'm going

440
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: there every day, and you know, you just it's it's

441
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: some kind of fun and we get a good team

442
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: to cover. But with that being said, Kat and I

443
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: are buddies, and I think that's the thing that you know,

444
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: we know baseball, but we're friends, and that's that's a

445
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: good thing. Yeah.

446
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: Well again, part of I think on any broadcast too,

447
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: if there's a sign that the individuals working together enjoy

448
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: each other on the air, then I think it's more

449
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: likely that people will enjoy it as well as no question.

450
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: I think that's that's now. I'm guessing there have been

451
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: some good combos that have hated each other off air

452
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: and found a way to fake it.

453
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

454
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not saying that can't happen, but but it

455
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: definitely definitely comes across. So you mentioned the Cubs down,

456
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: what didn't we get a three run dong in the

457
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: in the top of the first and then Milwaukee came

458
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: right back and tied it, right.

459
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Suzuki hit a big three run home first inning,

460
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: three run bomb, and thinking, okay, if we're settling in here,

461
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: we we're okay, We're Game two, We're okay, and let's

462
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: let's see if we could get game two and come

463
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: back to Wrigley tied, and Vaughn who was with the

464
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: White Sox for a while, he hit a three run

465
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: homer in the first tied the game, and I was like, oh,

466
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: it's one of them days, and I just yeah, it

467
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: just hasn't gone Cubs. I think they had two hits

468
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: after the first inning, so that makes it a little

469
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: difficult to win when you're you know, you don't get

470
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: many hits posts first inning, So that was It's been

471
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: a tough series, it just has.

472
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Speaker 1: And now you playing great, Milwaukee's playing really well. I

473
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: think that's going to be an important part of the story. Obviously.

474
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: The next two games are are back at Wrigley. Update me,

475
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: what are Wriggly field crowds like these days? Like even

476
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: let's say, if we go back to the World Series

477
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: team and the atmosphere, you know, then around Wriggly, is

478
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: it the same as it was then? Is it even

479
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: more pronounced? Is it a different kind of crowd? What

480
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: do you sense these days at Wrigley?

481
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: I feel like Wriggly the pinnacle of Wrigley was sixteen,

482
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: right and it just went crazy and we all knew

483
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: you grew up here too, going there, you know, and

484
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: it was so over you know, it was it was

485
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: so overneeded for a fan base to be able to

486
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: cheer like that. And I think seventeen the team that

487
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: all did good, you know, but you know, went to

488
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: the Championship Series and then I think we lost some

489
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: playoff rounds right away. Yeah, and we haven't won a

490
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: playoff series since eighteen here at Wrigley Field, or won

491
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: a playoff series, so with fans in the stands, so

492
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: we you know, COVID year. But I thought Game three

493
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: of the wild Card series was the first time. The

494
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: fans were great in game one and two of the

495
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: wild Card games and then we split and then you're

496
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: playing Game three, and that gave me goosebumps. That was

497
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: one of them. Now we're back to the sixteen group.

498
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: We from the first pitch of the game, they were

499
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: it was on and you know, they it was almost

500
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: like they weren't going to let us lose. And that's

501
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: how the game went. It just it really went that way.

502
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: And anytime an opposing pitcher had a tough pitch, you know,

503
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: in an inning, they made it even that much tougher.

504
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: It was really fun to do, fun fun game.

505
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the local angle here.

506
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: Michael Bush, his season, what you know of him obviously

507
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: inver Grove Heights, I believe is where he gails from originally,

508
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: because I've gotten texts intermittently like all season from people

509
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: who either know him or have Invergrove Heights or Minnesota connections,

510
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: and we have not you know, we really and I

511
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: have not talked a lot of beyond the Minnesota Twins

512
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: through much of this season. So tell me a little

513
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: bit about about his season where he's fitting in these days.

514
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's had an unbelievable season. He's been great,

515
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: thirty four home runs. I think he finished the regular

516
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: season at ninety RBIs. He has said three home runs

517
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: already in the playoffs, And basically Milwaukee changed their pitching

518
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: plan to pitch away from Michael Bush. So eighty two

519
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 2: of the series they brought in and they had an

520
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: opener and changed their whole program to try to keep

521
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: Michael out of you know, out of their arms way.

522
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: So that's that will tell you all you need to know.

523
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Come playoff them. That's the best team in baseball record wise,

524
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: is pitching away from Michael Bush. That's how hot he is.

525
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: The other thing about him and I met him two

526
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: years go my first day in spring training, you know,

527
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: I walked up to him. We're in a backfield, and

528
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: I said, hey, Michael, how you doing. Welcome to the

529
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs. I'm Ron Coomer. Mister Komer, how are you?

530
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: My dad loved watching you play. I was like, you know,

531
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: he is He's exactly what you would think a really

532
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: nice Minnesota guy would be. A young guy, he's a lot,

533
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: he's nice, he's a hard worker. He's turned himself into

534
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: a great player. Danny, he's a he's an All Star

535
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: player now, whether he didn't make the team this year,

536
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: but you know you're thirty four or ninety, you're playing

537
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: first base. He's an excellent defender. So he's turned himself

538
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: into a front line big league player. And you know

539
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: the other thing about him too. I have not met

540
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: his parents yet, although I know I will because I

541
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: know his dad's a cigar guy, so I know we're

542
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: going to end up meeting. But they should be really

543
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: proud of he's a great, great young guy. He really

544
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: is great young guy.

545
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Over your time in base either as a player or

546
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: now as a broadcaster, have you run into or gotten

547
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: to know it all? A very acerbic reporter used to

548
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: be a New York tabloid guy. Now he writes for

549
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: a website called ball nine dot com named Kevin Kernan.

550
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: Do you know Kevin all at all? Do you know

551
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: who he is? I know who he is yet I

552
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: had a hunch. Okay, so Kernin we have him on occasionally.

553
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: He's a great guest. He's he's just extremely passionate about

554
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: the game, but he has every time he's on, we

555
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: have what we call a nerd count, where he can't

556
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: stand what he describes as the baseball nerds. He thinks

557
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: the nerds are ruining the game, and so we count

558
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: up how many times he uses the word in each

559
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: each time he is broadcast. He's with us, So refresh

560
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: my memory. Update me on where you are regarding the

561
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: question of the nerds overtaking the game, Whether you've come

562
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: to accept nerd them to a degree that there's a

563
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: place for it, or you share Kernan's utter abhorrence of

564
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: everything he thinks they represent and have brought to the

565
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: game of baseball.

566
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm losing connection, Dan, I don't know if I can

567
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: hear you any longer. Well, I think I think for

568
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: all baseball guys you know that played the game and

569
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: had spent their whole life in the games. You know

570
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: we have a hard time with that. There's no doubt that.

571
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: But I do think there is a there is a

572
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: place for both. I really do. I think that, you know,

573
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: the the analytics side of our game has helped the

574
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: pitching side very much. There's no doubt about that. And

575
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: I think they have that has not helped the offensive side.

576
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: That's the way it is. I mean, you look at

577
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: strikeouts are up, Batting averages are way down, the offenses

578
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: are struggling. The guys are, you know, swinging and missing

579
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: at a record pace because they want them to do

580
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: certain The thing that I don't the thing that I

581
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: don't understand about the offense, and I you know, I've

582
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: been with some great hitting people through my years, and uh,

583
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: I think I understand hitting pretty well. When you ask

584
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: somebody to do something and they do it, and they

585
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: do it really well, and then you get mad for

586
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: them doing what you ask them to do, and then

587
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: you you go against what's what the result is? Well,

588
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: that's what you ask them to do. That's that mean baseball.

589
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: But when you're asking guys to try to hit the

590
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: ball out of the park, and hit them out of

591
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: the park, walk on base and not it for average,

592
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: don't care about average, don't care about RBIs, And then

593
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: you get upset that they strike out two hundred times, Well,

594
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: guess what which one do you want? You can't have both, right, So,

595
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: but see that that that analytics they can't understand that.

596
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: They can't they've never stood it. So that's a problem.

597
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: And that's where you're getting at. And now the you know,

598
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: the the Arises who you know played in this series

599
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: before in San Diego, Nico Horner for us putting the

600
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: ball in play. All of a sudden, they become really

601
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: big stories in October because why they can actually put

602
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: the ball in play and they have a good at bath.

603
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: It's like, hello, I don't know what to tell you

604
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: know it it amazes me, and you know I talked

605
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: about it on the air. But offense, it's coming back.

606
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: Put it that way, the offense inside of the ball.

607
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: We're starting to gain some footing because you're seeing that

608
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: guys putting the ball and play and understanding how to

609
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: use the whole field and actually be an offensive player.

610
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: That's working again and they're seeing that. And you know,

611
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: striking out one hundred and eighty times as a shortstop

612
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: probably isn't very good.

613
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Ron Coomer joining us of course, he's on radio play

614
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: by Plit color analysis on the Chicago Cubs Baseball Network.

615
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: Cubs down two games to none after losing last night

616
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, and the series, we'll resume in Chicago. Who

617
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: is the old time pitching coach for the Braves, Goudy.

618
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: I can see him, the guy used to rock back Mazzoni.

619
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: There was a great piece I don't know if you

620
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: saw it, believe it or not, in a non sports

621
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: publication I think the Atlantic where somebody tracked him down

622
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: and he's old school on pitching. And of course his

623
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: issue on pitching is he thinks it isn't a coincidence

624
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: that we're seeing the number of arms break up that

625
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: we are the injuries because of all of the emphasis

626
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: similarly on velocity and not enough on the art of pitching. Now,

627
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: I assume the ball guys would say, well, no, there's

628
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: a reason we do that because pitchers can throw this hard.

629
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: It's the most effective way get people out. But where

630
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: are you on that whole issue of whether that is

631
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: directly you know, related to the to what seems to

632
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: be a rash of pitching. You know of arm injuries

633
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: and you know significant surgeries.

634
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that they're related, without question. That's just

635
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: the way it is. And I think organizations you know

636
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: that that's just part of the program. I think for

637
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: a pitcher to not have Tommy John. They look and go, really,

638
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: how how have you gotten around not having Tommy God surgery?

639
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's just kind of part of the program.

640
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: I really believe that. And you know, I had one

641
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: pitching coach who I'm friends with in the league tell

642
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: me I don't And this is an exaggeration, but there's

643
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: some truth to it too. And he's a big league

644
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: pitching coach for a long time. He said, I don't

645
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: have pitchers. I got projectile throwers. Okay, And you know,

646
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: for some guys, I think that's true. I don't think

647
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: that's true for everybody, right, I definitely think there's some

648
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 2: guys that you know, have figured out how to throw

649
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: the ball extremely hard. And if they can throw three

650
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: balls in the box before they throw four out, that's positive.

651
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: You know. I don't know if you call that pitching,

652
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: but yea, that is what it is.

653
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: That's the issue. I assume you know you've paid you

654
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: always pay attention to the twins. You have enough connections

655
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: here as well. How concerned are you? You know, if

656
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: the season turned disastrous, they got the bullpen at the

657
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: trade deadline, like almost in historic fashion. Basically the top

658
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: five relievers all sent away. Rocko an occasional guest on

659
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: this show. We had a great relationship with Roco. He

660
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: gets dismissed. It happens. That's generally what happens when teams

661
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: don't do very well, as long as I think these

662
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: guys missed the playoffs for the last five years something

663
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: like that. So how concerned and you know about the

664
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: ownership thing that they were gonna the poleads are going

665
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: to sell Now they're not going to sell. Now they're

666
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: adding investors. How worried about you? Are you? You about

667
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: your old baseball team?

668
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're They're in a tough way right now.

669
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: There's no doubt I think on the field, you know,

670
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: we were talking about this, I don't know if we've

671
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: ever seen quite a dismantling of a team quite like

672
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: the Twins did this year. That's that was something, Yes,

673
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: it really was.

674
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: You know.

675
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: So then when you get to that point now to

676
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: build that back, you know you're talking about some times

677
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: got to you know, things have to work out real

678
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: well with draft picks. They got to you know, all

679
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: these middle of the road signings, not not the elite player,

680
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: but you know, you got to hit on a lot

681
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: of these guys now just to be competitive, you know,

682
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: and you don't want to turn into these, you know,

683
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: teams like you know, the White Sox were two years

684
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: ago Colorado. You don't want to turn into that because

685
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: then you lose your fan base in a big way

686
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: and you become you know, I think here on the

687
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: South Side two years ago, you know, people were you know,

688
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: if they had five hundred people on that Tuesday night game,

689
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: it was you know, that's that's not good. So I know,

690
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: you know, I hope they get it turned around. You know.

691
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: It's one of those things you know that the ownership team,

692
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: I don't know really kind of how things are going

693
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: when when I left, you know, and mister Pole that

694
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: has passed, and I know I think his grandson is

695
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: Joe Branson that's running right now. Yes, yeah, And I

696
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: think some of the people have left that really had

697
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: a good hold on what was going on. I think

698
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: Dave Saint Peter was, you know, one of the best

699
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: executives in baseball and and a guy that you know,

700
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: he led twins, yes, Blue and Red. He just did.

701
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: And you've lost some people in the organization. You know,

702
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: they fired a year after Paul Maliner was the manager

703
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: of the year. You fired him. You know, those are

704
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: people that are you know, they're they're Minnesota Twins man,

705
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: so so they they've made some mistakes, there's no out

706
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: and you know, but they still got fully in town.

707
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: I'd be knocking on his door. He's sending them over

708
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: two hours. Hey Paul, what are you doing? You busy?

709
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: We'd really like to have your back. That would be

710
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: my that'd be my first thing to do. We have

711
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: the pole in our game and get him back and

712
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: in uniform and helping out. Well, yeah, he could be

713
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: mad at me for saying that, but that's too bad.

714
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: That's too bad. Well we you know, we have not

715
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: had had him on in a while. But there's nobody

716
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: better to talk baseball in the air with, as you know,

717
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean Moll when he's gone, when he's really you know,

718
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: in it and into it, he's fascinating to talk to.

719
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea where his his mind is now.

720
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: I just think, man, it's it's gonna be a tough

721
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: It's like you said, it's it's I think part of it,

722
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: uh koom dog is they have to somebody is going

723
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: to need to declare what the vision is? You know,

724
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: you you have to let Okay, are we going to

725
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: actually strip more payroll? Now that we've stripped the bullpen

726
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: and we're going in rebuilding mode? Can you even afford

727
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: to do that?

728
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: What?

729
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, what's the plan? I think even Byron, you know,

730
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Buckston's a good soldier guy who said I want to

731
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: be here my whole career. But even heat towards the

732
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: end of the season, like, Okay, you know this will

733
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: be if we we build again, that'll be my third

734
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: since I've been here. So we got to I start,

735
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: We sort of got to figure out what we want

736
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: to do. And and that's what's scary. Even now you're Joe,

737
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: Ryan questioned some things and internally, and that's that's a

738
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: tough spot when you have people inside the organization who

739
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: are generally good soldiers, who are saying, wait a minute, now,

740
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: what what exactly are we doing? And and that's what's

741
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: And like I said, I wasn't kidding. I mean, you

742
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: feel so detached when your team's not in the postseason.

743
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's much harder to stay connected. Everything feels fresher,

744
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: and you know, you're more into it. If you're a

745
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: factor or if you're part of that, and right now

746
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: it just feels like it's very far away.

747
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel that way. And then you know,

748
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: for the Cubs, I mean even for people like us,

749
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: we're not oht season relevant right up until the end.

750
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: You know, you do you shut down, you head to

751
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: South or you d west and season's over and you

752
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: know you're not all that overly interested in the playoffs

753
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, we're done, this is over, you know.

754
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: So the Twins, the Twins are an organization. They need

755
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: to be relevant in baseball. It gets such a great

756
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: you know, great fan base and great ball park. I mean,

757
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: they just need to be relevant. So hopefully they're going

758
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: to get that plan together, as you said. And then

759
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: once you get a plan together, then you can sell

760
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: that at least exactly to the fan base. You know,

761
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: you can sell that and it doesn't have to be

762
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: win tomorrow. But we were building towards something. I think

763
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: that is a very something that is in need, no doubt.

764
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Last item for you, and it's great to hear your voice.

765
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: We're having Patrick ROYCEI in studio on Monday. He doesn't

766
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: work for the station, but we just sort of. There's

767
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: some people that supersede all the rules, so they let

768
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: you every once in a while, usually bring him in

769
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: for the fair and that didn't work out. So we're

770
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: gonna have him on Monday, approaching I think his eightieth

771
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: birthday by the way, So any special messages for mister

772
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: royce who I know.

773
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: You know, well, tell him he owes me a coffee.

774
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: We we I had a great chance. So this year

775
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: when we came to Minnesota to play the Twins, Patrick

776
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: and I went out for a coffee and he interviewed

777
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: me in Eden Prairie, yes before the series started, and

778
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: he's just he is. He's one of those people that

779
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: you know, he has always been kind of I don't

780
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: want to you know, if you want to know what's

781
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: going on in Minnesota sports, read Roycey's column corect right.

782
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

783
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: I would say I got two friends that are that

784
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: way right now, you and him. You want to know

785
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: what's going on, Listen to your show if you want

786
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: to read about it, Listen to read Patrick's stuff. He's

787
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: going to give you, you know, the high school, the

788
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: college football. He's got it all going and he's a

789
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: great We had a great time. We had coffee and uh,

790
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: but you know, those are people that are our gaming,

791
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: are all of our sports. You can't you know, They're

792
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: just they're part of the the being of what we do, right.

793
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: I mean, Minnesota is with Sid and Patrick listening to

794
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: them to jaw at each other on the sports show.

795
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: God to make me laugh. It didn't matter what the

796
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: hell they said. It's just made me laugh.

797
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, you know.

798
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: And so yeah, he is. Everybody knows Patrick around the league,

799
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: and it's great that you're having them on. That's that's

800
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: a must listen for sure.

801
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Irreplaceable is the word. He doesn't he gets uncomfortable with that.

802
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't like praise in his way, But irreplaceable is

803
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: the word.

804
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, I can be replace I can just

805
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: hear him now.

806
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: The guy the guy tire like two Ryder cups ago

807
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: and he's still going, I say, and I think he should.

808
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: That's the thing I don't buy. If he's still got

809
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: the passion for it, he's still got the talent for it,

810
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: keep doing it, man, And I think I you know,

811
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: I buy that notion that it's what keeps people alive.

812
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: You know, what they do if they do it well

813
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: that they that they they don't feel obligated because you're

814
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: supposed to stop, that you have to stop. Don't stop

815
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: if you don't want to.

816
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: You know. He lives on the other side of town.

817
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: Paul and I still have a place in Eaton Prairie.

818
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 2: We come into town. He asked to me, he wants

819
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: to do an interview. I'm like, sure, let's do it. Patrick. No, no, no,

820
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: no no, we got to go somewhere. We got to

821
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: do it in person. We gotta have coffee. I'm like,

822
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: Christmas awesome. I'm like if Paul is looking at me

823
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: like you're making plans to do what on your offing here?

824
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I am. I don't know what

825
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: to tell you. I'm don't have Patrick Curcy.

826
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: He wins, that's it.

827
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, family, I'll have to wait a couple hours.

828
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: Well, good luck to the cubbies. I hope they can. Uh,

829
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: they can get back in this thing and lead, make

830
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: it interesting and really appreciate the time on the off day. Man,

831
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: always a pleasure.

832
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: Always for you, buddy, Yep, miss talking you.

833
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: Thanks kom Dog me as well. Take care. That's Ron Komer.

834
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: We call him. Koomb Dog used to be a regular

835
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: on this show a long long time ago. Got what

836
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: a guy. Let's make this the top of the hour pause.

837
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna do Top five at five,

838
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: Luigi's in the house, so we could do a little

839
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: Top five with Louis and then get into a lot

840
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: of hockey conversation. Opening night National Hockey League looks like

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00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Florida two Blackhawks one at the end of period number

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00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: one in the first game of what I'm assuming he's

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00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: going to be an ESPN doubleheader, and we'll talk about

844
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: the McDavid developments. There's a lot to get to with Luigi,

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00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: some more wild injuries to discuss already, Questions for Louis

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