1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: We got the calls on the fifteen segment, which people love, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: they do love it. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: I got to write that down. That and my show's 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: way over prepared, I know, and it sucks. I suck. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Everything sucks, uh because I write too much down. But 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: then when I don't write it, don I'm old and 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: my memory shot. Although I do remember our last game 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: was against Buffalo. That's been my my, my bugaboo lately 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: with memory. I can't remember who the Steelers played in 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: their last game. Like you'll hear me stumble over it 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: all the time because my memory's going. But I haven't 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: gotten Buffalo wrong. I think Monday I froze on it once. 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm getting better. I'm getting better. I'm not going to 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: be drioling quite as much inside of a couple months. 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: But but yeah, this uh, this game just isn't what 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: It's important, but it sucks. 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: It's nice to be important, but it's more important to 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: not suck. Anyway. 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot the catchphrase the talk show segment that's 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: sweeping the nation the blah blah blah. That's a radio sensation. 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but people seem to like to call 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: next segment, so call now. 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Eight three, three, four one two WXDX. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: I'd be perfectly content to talk about the Penguins or, 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: for that matter, the Oklahoma City Thunder at twenty one 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: and one. Jesus, that's like, like, you go to the game, 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: I would assume they're one losses on the road. 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: You go to the game at home knowing they're gonna win. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: That's fun. 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: Uh and plus two Oklahoma City, those hicks do on there. 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: They they're just in hog heaven having won the title 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: last year, not twenty one to one this year. My 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: team won the title last year. Now we're six six 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: and one. Not a great game for the Penguins last night, 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: but it was a great win. 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Like this game for the Steelers is important, but it 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: sucks that win last night for the Penguins. It wasn't 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: a great game, but it was a great win. Boco 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: got in a fight, chopped on some six foot nine giant. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Gino scored a couple of nice goals, the kids scored 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: a couple of goals. And now it's on to Dallas 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday and then five straight home games which I 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to go watch. We had Thursday Night football 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: last night Dallas got beat by Detroit. George Pickens was 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: bad and quit on a route, so he's been getting 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 1: buried by the media, especially with Ceedee Lambotte last night 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: with a concussion, I think, and Pickens needed to come 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: through and he did not. 51 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: Although they did score thirty points and still lost to Detroit. 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: They just I mean that Dallas defense and that Pittsburgh 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: defense and that Baltimore defense, A lot of defensive units 54 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: that were supposed to be better than they are in 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the NFL this year. Pickens needed to come through last 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: night for Dallas and he didn't. That's how it is 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: with George Pickens. He doesn't show up every week. Be 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: getting back to the Steelers, they say the winner of 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: this game at Baltimore has a seventy five percent chance 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, the losers at twenty three percent. Now, 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: being an Officionado Steiner math, I'm adding up seventy five 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: percent chance and twenty three percent chance, and I'm wondering, 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: what the frig happened to the other two percent? Is 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: that like what the Bengals get? Does it spelled disaster 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: for me? It's sacrifice. I don't know. Pittsburgh is at 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: a crossroads. It feels like bam across On was with Tomlin, 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: and maybe Baltimore is at the same point with Lamar 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: and Harbaugh. I listened to some national radio today and 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: they were saying that Baltimore is starting to wonder, and 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: I think Tom said this during the First Dome. Baltimore 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: is starting to wonder if they can, you know, win 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: with Lamar, if their windows starting to shut with him. 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: But it is also incredibly repetitive and boring. I were 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: to call him, this was fun. I were to call 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: him about the ice rink at the Olympics in Milan 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: being a not done yet and be three feet shorts 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: and people are going nuts because it's three feet short. 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: A standard NHL rink is two hundred feet. It was 79 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be two hundred feet. This is one hundred 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: ninety seven feet and it's like three inches wider, and. 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: People are going ballistic. 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: There's not gonna be any room out there, yo, idiots, 83 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: hold your hands three feet apart and then ask yourself, 84 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: is lacking that on a hockey rink that's eighty five 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: feet wide going to make one bit of effing difference? 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: And the answer is absolutely not. 87 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: And people are saying, well, the Boston Garden back in 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: the day was only one hundred and ninety one feet 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: and the big bad Bruins they dominated because they were 90 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: so big and tough and blah blah blah. 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: Maybe it's because they were big and tough, not because 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: the rink was small. 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: I saw those Bruins play and the nights they played 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: on the road when the rink was two hundred feet 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: long as per regulation, they were still pretty big and bad. 96 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: But what's gonna happen is these these idiots that pick 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: Team Canada in the US. They're gonna pick big guys 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: now because there's no be any room to operate out there. 99 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Billy Garret already said that there's no room out there, 100 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: and that was before they announced the rink is three 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: feet smaller. It's it's just unbelievable, Like the US is 102 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: gonna pick seven Ka Chuck brothers, maybe a sister. And 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is Sweden's gonna win because they'll just say, 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, three feet, that's no big deal. 105 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: We'll just pick our guys. You know, I still think. 106 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Canada's gonna win causes sid even though they're goaltending. What 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: if jars is in goal for the gold medal game 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: for Canada. I would have fired up for that. I 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: would I would bet heavily against Canada if Jars wasn't gold. 110 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't tell Sid Nah. I'd tell Sid. I'm 111 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: very honest about my fandom of Canada. Uh with sid Well, 112 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't I be. I'm rooting for him, 113 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: but like I root for Canada International hockey because because 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: I know Sid. 115 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: I rooted for Canada when Mario played, because I know Mario. 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, the. 117 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: Flag, the flag is just I don't think it should 118 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: be waved in the name of sports. So we could 119 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: talk Penguins. Jari thirty seven saves last night. What I 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: like about the way he's playing, especially last night, Very 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: steady and rhythmic, save move control, save move control, save 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: save cover, play the puck well, save move control. 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: And that's something we haven't often seen from Jari. 124 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Penguins allowed way too many odd man breaks last night, 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: but Jari made the difference. 126 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: How about freaking Kutcherov? 127 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: He is he might be the most underrated player in 128 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: history hockey because he's Russian and this is North America, 129 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: and that sucks, but that's how it works. But he 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: had ten shots on goal last night, and that don't 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: include the one they waved back that he scored on 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: that would have tied it except for the hand pass 133 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: with that kid line. I love the kid like Kendall 134 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: just ran the show out there. He's an eighteen year 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: old running the show when he's out there. So much 136 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: to like about these penguins, so much that's boring about 137 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Steelers are dying. They're decaying, They're becoming a 138 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: rotting corpse in front of your eyes. And the penguins 139 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: will be born yet again before I die. I can 140 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: tell you that they will be born yet again before 141 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: I die. Well, that depends on when I die. But 142 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic for the first time in a while. Okay, 143 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: what time is it? What else do I got? Oh, 144 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: we got guests, Tim Bens at three point thirty, Charlie 145 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Batch at four o'clock. We'll talk more penguins, we'll talk 146 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: more Steelers, we'll talk about the password. 147 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: If you there gotta be something. Okay, here's the thing. 148 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: I could look up how to pronounce the citiot's name, 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: or I could, if Tom look up how to pronounce 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: the city's name. 151 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: But I just don't care. 152 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good with Collin of the password and like 153 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I said, I typed it into my computer and unlock 154 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: seventy wins get it because they stink and he's not 155 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: that good. But but I mean, is this a big deal? 156 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: I want to hear for some cock eyed powered optimists. 157 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, where's this guy gonna play? Whose spot's he 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna take? I heard he might play center field? 159 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 160 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: What about Cruise, Well, he might move back to Okay, 161 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: what about Connor Griffin? Well, I mean he could all 162 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, do these guys know what 163 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: they're doing? Do you know what they're doing? Can somebody 164 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: explain it to me? I'm going with Justin Nixon? Justin Nixon, Garcia? 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: What else did Nixon say? Besides I'm not a crook, 166 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Your president is not a crook. Your center fielder strikes 167 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: out too much. 168 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: As you can win a drip for four people that 169 00:08:53,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: come to iHeartRadio, aldre Egoi, Mark Madden, Mark and. 170 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: After learn want to do to Mark Madden? What do 171 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: you what? What do you want? Damn it? 172 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 5: The exit? 173 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: Get your calls in now for calls on the fifteens. 174 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: I'll reorganize that catchphrase by next week, or maybe I won't. 175 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: I need to do less prep. You know what I'm 176 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: going to do next week. I think I do this 177 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: once while I'm going to lem on my preparation to 178 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: two eight and a half by eleven pages handwritten. Ending 179 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: on top of that, I just have to add lib. 180 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: I got a great ad lib in earlier I talked 181 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: about this guy the Pirates traded for from the Red 182 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Sox traded ovi Eto for this outfielder called the password. 183 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Has this weird spelled first name air Go the password, 184 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I said, I typed it into my computer. 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: It unlocked. 186 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: He wins, get it. I mean, that's good writing, Dickie. 187 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I'd rather talk more about the Penguins. That game last 188 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: night was exciting. I I I fear that three nil lead, 189 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: and justifiably given recent past, especially that Los in Toronto. 190 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: But all's well, that ends well. Penguin's got a good 191 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: call at the end, wound up winning the game. I 192 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: love the kid line. I love in each and every 193 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: one of them. Kendall runs the show out there at eighteen. 194 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I was so happy for Coyvid and when he finally scored. 195 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: He was beaming. 196 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: The Penguins are fun. This is supposed to be fun. 197 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: The Penguins are fun. The Steelers are not. Tell me 198 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: what's fun about the Steelers. I challenge anyone to do that. Now, 199 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: call me right now and tell me what's fun about 200 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers? Seriously, eight three three, four to one two WSDX. 201 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: What is fun about the Steelers. The Penguins have youth 202 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: and energy. The Steelers have same me same. They have 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of old looking, old talking prisoner of war 204 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: looking dudes like Rogers. I've been saying, it looks like 205 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: a pow or a wartime president, or an old man 206 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: waiting for the bus who just doesn't know what's not coming. 207 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Or Joe Walsh after five years in the Eagles. Ain't 208 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: no fun. Ain't no fun with the Steelers. They're old 209 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: and dull with lots of bs. I'm not yet sure 210 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: the Penguins are a playoff team, but the Penguins are developing. 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: The Steelers are dying. Let's go to Dave. Dave, you're 212 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: on with Mark. Okay, you're on there. Okay, goodbye, Dave. 213 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: Let's go to Craig. Craig, you're on with Mark. 214 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 6: Hey, bargot, I do want to say. I called on 215 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 6: the old number and it did come through. They I 216 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 6: call that dude signing the password. I don't know if 217 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 6: you know he has a brother who plays for the 218 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 6: Red Sox. It's like Johann something. It's j O H 219 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 6: A N f R A N who has been nickname 220 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: use their name. I don't know where they came from, 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 6: but definitely horrible nicknames. 222 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: Well, I had to think that tells me that they 223 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: both stink. What do you think. 224 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 6: Kind of what I'm thinking? 225 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Dante. Dante, you're all with Mark? 226 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 7: Hey, how you doing? 227 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 8: What up? Hey? 228 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 7: You wanted to talk about the Penguins? 229 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 230 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 7: Can I give you a hard time about something? 231 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't care. I mean, you mean nothing to me. 232 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Anything you could say wouldn't affect my life at all, 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: So go ahead. 234 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I just I just wanted to see if 235 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 7: I could get an apology out of you about the Penguins. 236 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: No, so well, let's try. 237 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 7: A long time ago. 238 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 9: Do you remember when we are you? When you retired 239 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 9: the first time? 240 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 241 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: It was nineteen ninety seven, right, so okay, I gotta 242 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you no what he gives a frig 243 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: that you called thirty years ago. Nobody gives a frig 244 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: about you. You're boring people to death. You're testing my 245 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: memory when I don't care what happened back then. Can 246 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: you say anything that's relevant or entertaining to right now? 247 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 7: Well, your show's never entertaining. So it took me seventeen 248 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 7: years to call you back about it. 249 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: No, it took you seven. 250 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: First off, you can't add it's more than seventeen years. 251 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Second off, you're so dumb you couldn't figure out how 252 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: to use the phone, and your wife's ugly. But thank 253 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: you for the call. 254 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Scoot Scoot trow with double M. 255 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: What up man? 256 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: What up man? 257 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 7: That's a tough act to follow there. I guess the 258 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 7: only thing fun about the Steelers is Boswell. I mean 259 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 7: he serious. 260 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: Every kick the kicker's not fun, Brov, the kicker's not fun. 261 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 7: If you love the game, it's fun. But I digress. 262 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 7: But I don't anyway, Jory, would you try to trade 263 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 7: him a sap to Edmonton? Because he's warm and I 264 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 7: still don't trust him. That cuture of empty netter that 265 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 7: got this allowed. I still think that's the real tys 266 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 7: right in. 267 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: The middle of the neck. Did you just call me 268 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: a sack ap. 269 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 8: No? 270 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: I think he called me a sap. 271 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: No. 272 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 7: You must certainly you show me apology, senator and theology Senator. 273 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: I would trade Jari, but they're not going out they 274 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Dubas is going to be caught in this web. 275 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: There are guys he should absolutely trade, but if they're 276 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: helping them make the playoffs, he's held prisoner by that. 277 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: And if Morishoff would come up and dazzled and you 278 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: thought he could step in and play like Jari is now, 279 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: and certainly morrishof is going to be the number one 280 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: goalie next year, then it would be easier to make 281 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: that trade. And I still would make it, but I 282 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: think if Jeri keeps playing like this, it'll be tough 283 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: to trade him. 284 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: If he doesn't keep playing like this, nobody will want him. 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Let's go real quick to Phil, Phil, 286 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: you got ten seconds. 287 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, Once the Penguins get healthy, that top nine 288 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: is going to be pretty pretty deep. Do you think 289 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: the Dubis will have to try to add to it 290 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: at the dead line, hopefully not moving any prospects. But 291 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you said he's gonna be in that 292 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: weird No, he won't. 293 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: No, they won't add to anybody. They won't. 294 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: They won't add anybody. They're not gonna trade anything for 295 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: even remote future to bring in help for now. My 296 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: big worry is when everybody's healthy, they scratch a guy 297 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: like coyn in. Coyven and Kindle and McGroarty should be 298 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: in the lineup definitely and as a line and if 299 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: that means to scratch a door or a Novak Novak 300 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: or a Hayes or even a Chari when he's healthy, 301 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: although I know he's a big part of the penalty kill, 302 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: then you do it. 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call up next to him, Benz. 304 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: One oh five to. 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 10: Nine Sunday night, the Pens hit the ice against the Stars. 306 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 10: Game time is six. Our coverage starts at five. Listen 307 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 10: to every game and the best Pens coverage on your 308 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 10: home of the Pittsburgh Penguins on L five nine The 309 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 10: x tis this. 310 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: Season when you're in the mood for a holiday music 311 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: the Steelers at Baltimore. 312 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Chuck Clark is likely to start at safety, joining me 313 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: now to talk about well that in all things Steelers 314 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: from the Trivias, Tim Benz, Tim, that's not good news. 315 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Dougar had been doing pretty good and Chuck Clark sucks. 316 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, so long as Douger didn't have to catch the ball. 317 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 8: I mean, that was kind of the one thing that 318 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 8: he was doing inconsistently at the one pick six and 319 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 8: dropped a few. But he's been a better band aid 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 8: on that safety situation than anything else they tried. When 321 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 8: his name popped up on the injury port, I was 322 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 8: concerned too. I mean, I'll be honestly, Mark, I don't 323 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 8: know enough about what they try to do with the 324 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 8: safety and the schematics of their defense against Baltimore specifically, 325 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 8: but I don't know how to quantify his absence immediately 326 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 8: for how it's gonna affect this game, because it's also 327 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 8: tough to get a read on Baltimore and what they're 328 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 8: gonna get out of Lamar Jackson, whether he's gonna be 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 8: the Lamar Jackson that tries to run, the Lamar Jackson 330 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 8: who never runs, or the Lamar. 331 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 5: Jackson who can at least throw so accurately if he 332 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 5: doesn't run. 333 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 8: Because it's been a mismatch of everything for him throughout 334 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 8: the course of the season. 335 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: No, that's correct, and we're not thinking Lamar Jackson one 336 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent. He's not using his legs as he does 337 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: what he's most effective. 338 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: And not a lot's great about Baltimore either right now. 339 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: That said, Tim, it kind of feels like this game 340 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: means more to the Steelers, doesn't It Like it's do 341 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: or die for them beyond even the standings in the outcome. 342 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 8: I think that's in part because there's greater potential for. 343 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 5: It to go completely south after this game. 344 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 8: For as angry as the Baltimore fan base, maybe I 345 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 8: don't think it's at the pitch that it is here 346 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 8: in Pittsburgh, because well, at least Baltimore's won some playoff 347 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 8: games recently, including one against Pittsburgh, so they've got that 348 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 8: going for it. 349 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 9: They've for them, They've. 350 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 8: Still got the core of a team that can contend. 351 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 8: They've still got a very good quarterback, a good running back, 352 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 8: some useful components on defense. They're frustrated with Harbaugh, maybe 353 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 8: not to the same degree that Steelers fans are with Tomlin, 354 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 8: and maybe that's just the determining factor that when it 355 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 8: comes to Tomlin, it's gotten to that boiling point and 356 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 8: it hasn't quite with Harbaugh. And I think so long 357 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 8: as you have a franchise quarterback, you have hope that 358 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 8: you can have a quicker fix and you can put 359 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 8: better pieces around that guy. 360 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: And the Steelers don't have that. 361 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Well, you were in a good column in the Trip 362 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: Tim It's like everyone thinks Mike Tomlin isn't. 363 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: Allowed to be fired. 364 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: Why is that because that would sertainly make him difference 365 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: from every coach in every sport. 366 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the ironic part about it is. 367 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 8: I was actually finally like, Okay, at least some of 368 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 8: these national voices are admitting that, you know, we're not 369 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 8: all crazy here in Pittsburgh for saying it's been too 370 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 8: long and we're no longer getting the finger wagging? 371 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 9: What do you people in Pittsburgh want? 372 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 5: You're so spoiled? 373 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 8: And then I really started to listen to the dialogue 374 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 8: and I started listening to the words or coming out 375 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 8: of their mouths, and it's all about, well, the Steelers 376 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 8: probably should move on, but it should be done so 377 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 8: in a. 378 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: Way that Mike Tomlin isn't fired. 379 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 8: Like Roethlisberger literally said that you can't fire Mike Tomlin. 380 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: Yes you can Clark called. 381 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: Tony better coaches than Mike. 382 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: Tomlin had been fired, including Mike Sullivan in this town 383 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: just not too long ago exactly. 384 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 8: And Andy Reid is the classic example of how both 385 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 8: teams can benefit from it. 386 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: And I think everybody is trying to will that analogy 387 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 5: into existence. 388 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 8: But I mean, at least Reid was let go, you know, 389 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 8: like it was a decision that was made. 390 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 9: And it doesn't always have to be this happy ending. 391 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be a mutual divorce. You know. 392 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 5: It's people only. 393 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 9: Seem to be okay with it outside of Pittsburgh. 394 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 8: If Tomlin's the one that files the papers with the States, 395 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 8: and that's not how it goes. Art Rooney is the 396 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 8: owner of the team now reading all this, you know, 397 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 8: the one thing that I will give Roethlisberger and and 398 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 8: Adam Schefter and Rich Eyes and all those other guys 399 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 8: that are referenced in my column credit for is at 400 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 8: least they're reading the room right, because Rooney feels the 401 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 8: same way, like, you know, I might be mad about this, 402 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 8: You might be mad about this. A lot of the 403 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 8: Steelers fans are, but you know, I think Art is 404 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 8: reading those quotes or hearing those quotes and saying, yeah, 405 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 8: if it comes down to it, that's how it's gonna go. 406 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 5: Mike's gonna call his own shot. 407 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: But but that's why Steeler fans are in a boiling point, 408 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: maybe even a breaking point, because that's just absurd, Like 409 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: everything wrong with. 410 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: The Steelers is Mike Tomlin's fault. 411 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: Period. 412 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: No one has ever deserved to be fired more than 413 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. 414 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: And yet we have the constant pussy footing. 415 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: And that's the perfect word for it. 416 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 8: And I almost used that word in the column, and 417 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 8: I think I've done it before. 418 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: That's the way I feel about it. And frankly, Mark like, it's. 419 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Kind of weird that it's okay if you just add 420 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: a footing onto the end of it, isn't it? 421 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 5: It really is? 422 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 8: Or u lunanimous as you still frequently do. By the way, 423 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 8: I think the guy's name is Joe Stinson. I think 424 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 8: that's how you say it, Joe Stinson is how you 425 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 8: say the passwords name, yeah, don't care, okay, And I 426 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 8: think it is spelled with a backwards K like everybody 427 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 8: else in the Pirates lineup. 428 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: I'd like that. 429 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 8: Back to the to the Steelers and their coaching situation. 430 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 5: Yes, it's it really, It. 431 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 8: Really is annoying that it has to come down to 432 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 8: that sort of mutually agreed upon finale. And I really 433 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 8: it's strange to say this because Steelers fans are hyper 434 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 8: reactive by nature. But it's been eight years, it's been 435 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 8: twelve out of fourteen. It's been fourteen out of eighteen, 436 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 8: don't you think Actually, Steelers fans have shown an amazing 437 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 8: amount of patients to have waited as long as they 438 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 8: did to have those chants first echo out finally last week. 439 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, but over dude, you know what? 440 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: You know what part of it is, though, Tim, And 441 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: this applies on a public level as well as a 442 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: media level. Nobody wants to criticize in the NFL's preeminent 443 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: black coach. That's a bigger part of this than people 444 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: would ever care to admit, although people are starting to 445 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: admit it. 446 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 9: Oh no, I'll admit it. 447 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 8: I do think that, especially because there are a lot 448 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 8: of Steelers fans who are old enough to have lived 449 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 8: through this with Cordell, there's some residue of do we 450 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 8: come off as inherently racist if we do this, even 451 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 8: if there are reasons for it. 452 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 9: Statistically when loss wise. 453 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: It's funny I mentioned that, though, Tim, because now they're 454 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: doing the Cordell thing. They're spreading unfond and rumors about 455 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Tomlin's personal life, which I know you've heard, which I 456 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: also know ain't true. But that's what we do here, 457 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: not me, the generic we, the royal, we, the scummy 458 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh WII. 459 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's you know. 460 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 8: It's what's funny about that is I was talking with 461 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 8: somebody on my podcast who said, crap like that has 462 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 8: happened in Baltimore with Harbaugh. You know, it's just it's 463 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 8: a it's the power of the Internet and nameless gray 464 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 8: faces ironically steel of Tomlinism. But you know that, I, 465 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: of course, being old enough, did instantly have flashbacks. 466 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 9: At the Courtell thing. 467 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 8: But you know, like that that resonated with a lot 468 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 8: of people who didn't like that, who didn't like the rumors, 469 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 8: and it's like, you know, it really does make us 470 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 8: look bad. 471 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 5: And I think there was an element to what you're saying. 472 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: That people help. 473 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 8: It's not coincidence that they only started chanting Fire Hextall 474 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 8: and Fire Canada within two and three years of those 475 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 8: teams and those units really sucking, and they've been a 476 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 8: lot more patient. 477 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: And it's not just. 478 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 8: Because Tomlin won a Super Bowl back in two thousand 479 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 8: and eight and went to another one in twenty ten. 480 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 8: You know, it's because we don't want to come off 481 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 8: as a collective fan base. 482 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: Looking bad to the public. 483 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 8: So it just it got to the point where I 484 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 8: don't think anybody could take any playing renegade. Playing Renegade 485 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 8: was sort of the instigator for all that, don't you. 486 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: Think, well, booing renegade, yeah, I mean it kind of. 487 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: It kind of signified a breaking. 488 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 8: Pa retegade to fire the reaction, and then I think 489 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 8: once that reaction happened, it was okay to start doing 490 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 8: anything else. 491 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: Timmy, all we've done. 492 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: I broached this after the LA Chargers loss, but but 493 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: now more convinced than ever. 494 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: I think Rogers has been a bust here. 495 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: I admire him for playing through the broken wrists now, 496 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's ever been very good here. 497 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: I think he was a C plus before the LA 498 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Chargers loss. I think he's been a D or a 499 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: D minus since then. It just isn't working. 500 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 8: I thought it was a little bit higher than a 501 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 8: C plus based on how limited the playbook and how 502 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 8: limited his players around him were for the first. 503 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 9: Five weeks, I would give it a little bit more 504 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 9: than that. 505 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not blameless in any of that. 506 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 5: In all of that, I would say, since then, it's 507 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 5: been worse. 508 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 8: You're right, and you know, it's not like he's he's 509 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: not a force multiplier, he's not a plus player that 510 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 8: he's dragging some of these lesser lights along, Like we're 511 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 8: not making the same arguments about Calvin Austin and Roman 512 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 8: Wilson that we were about various Packers receivers over the 513 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 8: height of his tenure, where these are just marginal guys 514 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 8: that Rogers is making great. He doesn't have that power 515 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 8: to do that anymore. I think a lot of it 516 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 8: is because when he does move, you know, he can 517 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 8: still move a little bit, but he can't throw in 518 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 8: a run like he used to. He clearly doesn't have 519 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 8: the pocket sense that he used to. He's stepping up 520 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 8: into sacks instead of being able to roll away with 521 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 8: him and throw across his body accordingly like he used 522 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 8: to when he was at the height of his powers. 523 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 8: Like those skills have eroded, as they do for every 524 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 8: other quarterback. It will happen to Mahomes in five years. 525 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 8: Maybe it's even starting to happen already. 526 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 9: Who knows? 527 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: Is it worth playing Rogers with the bum wrist? 528 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Would Rudolph at one hundred percent be a better bet. 529 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 8: The way Rudolph is playing right now? No, I would 530 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: hope that the risk is better. But you know, like 531 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 8: last week, I don't think it would have mattered which 532 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 8: one was in there, because Rudolph isn't playing well, and 533 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 8: as it turns out, Rogers was probably not healthy enough 534 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 8: to play because he was so limited with the ball 535 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 8: handling and what he could or could not do in 536 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 8: the offensive backfield before he got hurt in the middle 537 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 8: of the game. 538 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 2: The step isn't that simple. Why won't nobody say that? 539 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: I think people have started to say it. 540 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 8: I've seen those same stories and same reports that Tom 541 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 8: was talking about at two o'clock hour with you, about 542 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 8: his get off. 543 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 5: Of the line of scrimmage and how that slowed down 544 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: year by year noticeably. 545 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 8: For as minimal as the number as that might be, 546 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 8: it's noticeable for NFL stat nerds like you know, it's. 547 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 5: Everybody says, oh, it's just a fraction of a second. Well, 548 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 5: that fraction is getting bigger and bigger, and he's not 549 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: the kind of guy that you know has a vast 550 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 5: array of moves. 551 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 8: If he's if his get off to the outside shoulder 552 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 8: or the tackle is not what it used to be, 553 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 8: then you know that's that's he's kind of like I 554 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 8: don't want to see he's a one trick pony. 555 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: That's a little bit far. 556 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 8: But you know, it's like what happens with Mike Wallace 557 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 8: when once he lost a step and running the fly route. 558 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 8: You know he was just wasn't the same receiver after that. 559 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Tim Up Who wins Sunday? I don't care. I don't 560 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: think it does either team any good. I think the 561 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: winner gets fulls golden. 562 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: That's it. 563 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 8: It's more true for the Steelers than it would be 564 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 8: for the Ravens. I think, because you go to Baltimore, 565 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 8: maybe Derrick Henry runs all over you, and maybe Lamar 566 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 8: Jackson pulls a rabbit out of his hat. If you're 567 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 8: a team that goes in there, if you're a team 568 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 8: that comes here, one of the three playoff. 569 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: Teams that would be in the AFC, they. 570 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 8: Probably all win from a wild card position coming to 571 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 8: play the Steelers as a division winner. 572 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 5: But I think the Ravens win. 573 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 8: I think it's god be a pretty classic low twenty 574 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 8: to high teens game, and the Ravens get the first 575 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 8: one here, and then let's see how ugly it gets 576 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 8: for mondaynight football between the Dolphins and Steelers, with the 577 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 8: great irony of the backdrop of the Steelers Hall of 578 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 8: Fame weekend and those great dams going in and people 579 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 8: chanting fire, Tomlin gooing renegade. 580 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Oh, what a glorious day it will be, Tim, here's 581 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: glorious new Super Troopers three hit standards August seventh. 582 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 9: I thought it was coming out earlier than that. It's 583 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 9: in August. 584 00:27:59,400 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: It's all the way. 585 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 9: Well then, huh, that's. 586 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: A long way away. 587 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: But but yeah, nat Fax, the beer fest has joined 588 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: the has joined the troop? 589 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 9: So is it is going into theaters? It's not straight 590 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 9: to streaming. 591 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: We can actually go to a movie theater to watch it. 592 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: It's stands August seventh, and I will go. 593 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I might go for that one too. 594 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 8: You should have a Super Troopers three trifecta tomorrow with Tom, 595 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 8: don't you think. 596 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean? 597 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually tomorrow would be a better bet for that. 598 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: Tim here. Here's here's my here's my goal. 599 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 8: Mark was one of the supertroopers, the guests that didn't 600 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 8: show up when they tried to plug supertroopers. 601 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: I have I have no comment, Tim, I cannot I'm 602 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm bitter, I'm disillusioned, I'm I'm upset. Don't even guess. 603 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: Don't you dare even guess who it was? Now, Tim, 604 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: here's what I'm hoping for. 605 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: Maybeord And this is a long way. 606 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: No. 607 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: I logged into him, Tim, and unlock seventy wins. Uh. 608 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Now, if say the Steelers, you know, finally have a 609 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: losing season, missed the playoffs any rate? Okay, well, fans 610 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: win the draft, will they chant fire Tom Win at 611 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: the draft? Will they will they chance sell the team 612 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: at the draft, or will they just be good little 613 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: black and Gold bitches and wave their tiles and cheer 614 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: for the picks. 615 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 8: If they miss the playoffs they finally go below five hundred. 616 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 9: I think enough time will pass between. 617 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 8: Whatever they do in free agency and the draft itself 618 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 8: that they won't ruin it unless they completely screw up 619 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 8: free agency and the fans think that they didn't do enough, 620 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 8: or they make. 621 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 5: Some unpopular moves that could make it worse. 622 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 9: But I think you're onto something when you. 623 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 8: Talk about how the fan base will talk itself into 624 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 8: optimism no matter what, And that's a longer time than 625 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 8: you think it may just sound or what. 626 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: No, I'm not even sure if they'll talk themselves into optimism, Tim, 627 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I'll just think they'll talk themselves into being good Pittsburghers 628 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and having a good time at the draft, and here 629 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: we go, stealer, there's here we go. Meanwhile, the thing 630 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: they could do most to make a point to Art 631 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: the second would be to ruin the draft because it's 632 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: been his dream and his dad's dream. 633 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 8: That's true, And the opportunity would present itself. If you 634 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 8: know they're picking in the top, what would you say, 635 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 8: ten to fifteen picks and they go against the grain 636 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 8: and they take something that the fans don't want, there's 637 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 8: gonna be like, I don't know, eleven, ten, maybe even 638 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 8: twelve more picks after that. 639 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 9: That's a lot of opportunity to chant on day two 640 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 9: and day three. 641 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 8: So they better make the pick that the people want 642 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 8: on that first day or it could turn ugly. 643 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: See Tim, I think I think you're over complicated because 644 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: the time to ruin it is night one. That's that's 645 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: when you have the most most viewers, most chance. 646 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 8: I agree with you, but I'm saying like you know 647 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 8: it because I tend to agree with your sentiment that 648 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 8: what will happen in March and early April will lay 649 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 8: the found foundation for everybody to feel better about themselves. 650 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 8: They'll talk themselves into things being great. And if they 651 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 8: make the wrong. 652 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: Pick, I. 653 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: Disagree team. I don't think they'll ruin the draft no 654 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: matter what. I think it's a ton of wosses that 655 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: they're just too immersed in the Pittsburgh and Black and 656 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Gold experience. They will definitely ae thousand percent jump out. 657 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: Much like I expect the Steelers to on Sunday. 658 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: And it would be so cliche right now for either 659 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: of us to say the Steelers are gonna win Sunday 660 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: because it's just the way the Steelers are. 661 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: But they won't. 662 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 5: Well, they've had a couple of those opportunities already this year, though. 663 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 9: I kind of thought that's what the Green Bak Gy 664 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 9: would be. I kind of thought that's what the Buffalo 665 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 9: game might be. 666 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: Like. 667 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 8: They've had the Okay, we're down, we're getting kicked in 668 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 8: the teeth. 669 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: The media is all over us. 670 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 9: People are saying bad things about Tomlin. 671 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: This is the. 672 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 8: Rally the troops game, and the troops have yet to rally. 673 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 8: And you know, this has that same stench about it 674 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 8: right now. This this feels a little bit more like 675 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 8: that really bad stretch they have before Rudolph. 676 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 5: Came in and saved things. And it took something cataclysmic 677 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 5: for that to. 678 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 8: Happen, with the first two quarterbacks going down, and I 679 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 8: don't think we're quite there yet, uh for you know, 680 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 8: the city to almost. 681 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 5: Burn before it gets saved. 682 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 8: You know, maybe maybe maybe the Ravens result might be that, 683 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 8: and then we see what happens right around Christmas. 684 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 5: Again. 685 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: That's Tim Benz on Mark Man Charlie Batch at the 686 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: top of the hour at one o five to nine. 687 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: It's the Woody Show, way better than NPR weekday mornings. 688 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 7: At six on 689 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: The X This So Hour The Mark Madden Shows, brought 690 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 2: to you by