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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 2: Here we go the third and final hour of the

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition and then turn the last show of the

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Speaker 2: week for Austin and I as well, Kentucky Basketball twelve

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Speaker 2: thirty tomorrow. So we do not have a show. NC

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Speaker 2: double A tournament action in full swing right now. And

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Speaker 2: our guest to kick off our number three is I

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Speaker 2: think partaking in some of the NC double A tournament

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Speaker 2: action from Bearcat Journal dot com. Yes, Bearcatjournal dot com,

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Speaker 2: not Who's your journal dot com?

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Speaker 3: Malhunjournal dot com right now.

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Speaker 2: Although he's got his Indiana Hoo's your National championship sweatshirt

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Speaker 2: on today, it is Keegan Nicholson.

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Speaker 4: Kegan, how are you doing? I could not be better.

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Speaker 4: This is like Christmas and my birthday wrapped in the one.

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Speaker 5: So I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, what game?

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Speaker 6: Do you have a game that you're most excited for today?

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Speaker 5: On the on the slate, I'm a big kJ power guy.

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Speaker 5: Watched him a lot in.

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Speaker 4: High school when Indiana was recruiting him, of course, and

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Speaker 4: I've picked and to upset Illinois and wow, every bracket

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Speaker 4: I've made so I'm ready for Penance that I think.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you got a long day ahead of you. Are

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Speaker 3: you going to be out there where you're currently set up?

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's just say what it is my old

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Speaker 3: friends at Hollywood Casino, that's where Kegan's at right now.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be there until tomorrow morning?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: So my lovely wife would look got home for dinner tonight.

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Speaker 5: I have to be six thirty.

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Speaker 6: That's a strong day you got ahead of you, though.

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Speaker 5: At least, yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be fun there.

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Speaker 2: There's obviously a lot of basketball action going on right now.

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Speaker 2: UC does not make the tournament. They don't have a

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Speaker 2: head coach, and I know at Bearcat Journal, you guys

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Speaker 2: are doing your best to update the coaching boards. But

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Speaker 2: everyone I talked to they circle back to one name

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Speaker 2: in Jared Calhoun. Is it as cut and dry as

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Speaker 2: that for you? Is he the clear number one on

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Speaker 2: this list for the Bearcats?

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Speaker 4: If I had to put my money on it, I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't put my money on anyone else to be the

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Speaker 4: head coach at You see, I don't think it's as

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Speaker 4: cut and dry as a lot of people think from

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Speaker 4: what I've heard, like they're gonna do a full search.

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Speaker 4: It's not just we're going to interview him and if

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Speaker 4: we think it works, it works, and we'll hire him.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that it's kind of a slam

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Speaker 4: dunk in a lay up, like it's he's a grad,

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Speaker 4: he coached under one of your best, probably the best

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Speaker 4: head coach in Cincinti history, So I think it's an

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Speaker 4: easy hire. I do also think that people have to

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Speaker 4: remember if he upsets who is he playing in the

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Speaker 4: first If he beats Villanova and then somehow upsets Arizona,

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Speaker 4: goes to Spee sixty, and how does.

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Speaker 5: That throw a wrench of them? So like, if you're.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati, do you continue to wait? If you're another school

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Speaker 4: that wants to hire him, do you up the offer?

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Speaker 4: And then it just gets too intriguing. So I think

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Speaker 4: how they fare in the NCAA tournament absolutely plays a

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Speaker 4: factor into it. I also think that's why Josh Shurtz

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Speaker 4: trying to keep all his options open. So long story short,

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Speaker 4: do I expect him to be the next head coach. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but it's not as cut and dry as like people just.

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Speaker 5: Waiting for an announcement in the next couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I did not know he played under John Brandon.

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Speaker 3: Is so what you said?

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Speaker 5: You see his next next question, next question?

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Speaker 2: You know, in a uh, in the hypothetical world in

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Speaker 2: which we're discussing that, for whatever reason, it doesn't play

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Speaker 2: out to be Calhoun. Are there a list of names

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Speaker 2: that do you think that you think are viable options?

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Speaker 2: Because everyone's you know, Dan Hurley is a name, not

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Speaker 2: at this point. Steve Kerr, you know Mo mentioned the

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Speaker 2: Are there viable names? Are there viable names that that

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Speaker 4: Eric Martin, Nick Van Exel, Yeah, all those usual suspects. No,

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Speaker 4: from a financial standpoint, like Cincinnati is in the school

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Speaker 4: So like if you look at firing coach Wes Miller

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Speaker 4: Murray is an extremely intriguing name. I've really liked him

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Speaker 4: good head coaches. He went back to back national championships.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy that I think someone's gonna hire and

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Speaker 4: he's gonna kill it like and I think Cincinnati would

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Speaker 4: be in a position to be like, hey, let's hire

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Speaker 4: I know that Sarah Accuse and Providence in Boston College

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Speaker 4: probably a red flag because he was an assistant at Xavier.

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Speaker 4: But outside of Calhoun, I really go to Luke Murray.

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Speaker 4: Brian Hodgeton is an interesting name, Eric Olin and also

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Speaker 4: Jeff Linder, an assistant at Texas Tech who was the

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Speaker 2: You know, I look at the current landscape of college

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Speaker 2: the waiting game for the current roster, because as soon

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Speaker 2: minutes ago, Yovon Melisseovich, the forward for Xavier, announced that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it puts the new head

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Speaker 4: It puts the new head coach at a disadvantage. I

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Speaker 4: also like, that's why I was so confused by people

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Speaker 4: first right fire West Miller, Like, but that puts them

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Speaker 5: But in terms of like player attention, the portal.

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Speaker 4: Is always open basically, like all these people are still

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Speaker 4: looking around. Also, Corey Evans is on a three year

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Speaker 4: he would have the head start and that's where a

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Speaker 4: situation having a GM like that is a huge plus.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's I was going to go there next, because

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Speaker 2: you know Corey Evans. I feel like going into the year,

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Speaker 2: then the season started and because of his role, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean with his ties overseas, he was a

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Speaker 4: He was a big player in getting guys like Georgia

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Speaker 4: Ardiguez who didn't play as well, but you can kind

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Speaker 4: of see the potential. But Boba Miller was a cherry

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Speaker 4: So he's very very important. He's very well connected, and

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Speaker 4: he knows how to evaluate talent. I mean, he worked

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Speaker 4: And I think the growing trend of colleges hiring gms

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Speaker 4: interesting that these gms are, I don't want to say

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Speaker 4: I think it's trending more in that direction that the

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Speaker 2: If you were in one of those roles of the

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Speaker 2: look at the members of this team from last year

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Speaker 2: this year, who are some of those core guys that,

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Speaker 4: The first guy I would look at is Keyshan Hillery.

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Speaker 4: I think he just provides so much stability on both

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Speaker 5: And a big spark.

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Speaker 4: After that, I'm going to Tyler McKinley to win the

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Speaker 4: like a kind of a Datte Caroleone type of thing.

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Speaker 4: Take pride in your city. Now this that's it's those

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Speaker 4: two no matter who the head coaches. But if you're

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Speaker 4: if if I'm Jared Calhoun and I'm taking a real

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Speaker 4: long look at Seanabayev and I'm saying I'm an offensive

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Speaker 4: five years, I would like to see what I can

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Speaker 4: much money he's going to very rightfully demand. Like he's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in this day and age at a school like

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Speaker 5: Make the tournament, he was going to get fired enough

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Speaker 5: He takes him to the tournament two years in a row.

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Speaker 5: So I would say two years.

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Speaker 5: I have Michigan winning it all.

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Speaker 5: But Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we get a really wide range here in Cincinnati. No,

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Speaker 3: I mean, looking at Keegan's bracket here in the Tony

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Speaker 2: So it's a little big twelve flare. But discussing very disrespectful,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I love aj De Banson.

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Speaker 5: Shut up, Austin, I said, you're not allowed to talk

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Speaker 2: If anything, jig and real quick, I know, uh, it's

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Speaker 5: Hawking a little bit. I'm getting a lot.

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Speaker 5: I just thought they had a lot of top of

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Speaker 4: And then the receiving game is going to match well

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Speaker 2: You feel pretty good about an opportunity to repeat in Bloomington.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen any of their spring practices yet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh Hoover's are my Heisman vote? Okay, basically, whoever's

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Speaker 2: Were you disappointed that Indiana turned down an invitation to

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Speaker 5: T No, don't play in any postseason?

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Speaker 5: I got a mouse in my pocket. You don't have

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Speaker 3: One day, Indiana basketball will be great again.

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Speaker 5: It's very problematic language there, Austin. I I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it just comes down to getting Brad

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Speaker 6: Okay small.

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Speaker 6: It's a breaking news sounder.

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Speaker 4: I'll throw that on the hot board per fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that works, Keegan Man, thanks so much for taking

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Speaker 6: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely use to one of your callers, Sea Wick.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, see told me.

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Speaker 4: Today that he used to play basketball with you in

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Speaker 6: Still the same.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of disappointing to me.

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Speaker 2: Still the same. I like Sea Witch, same way, the

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Speaker 2: same way I roll every Sunday. Right now, Keegan, what's

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Speaker 2: what's the way for folks to follow along with all

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Speaker 4: Follow k nickoson forty two on X and then make

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Speaker 4: sure you subscribe to Barricut Journal seventy five percent off

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Speaker 5: Money's word.

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Speaker 2: The next couple of days, you heard the man Keegan

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Speaker 2: nickoson if they want to see you, where's yet in Hollywood?

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Speaker 2: Go see Keigan. Hollywood will be until like six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Go say how take pictures free, autogram and betting. I'll

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Speaker 2: give you gambling advice too.

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Speaker 5: Kim good, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Man, We appreciate you. Yeah that is Keegan Nikison.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to our guy, Bob man Jean from University

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Speaker 2: of Cincinnati and Novacare that happens next on ESBN fifteen

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Speaker 2: a Thursday afternoon, sinteen three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 6: Let's give ourselves.

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Speaker 2: An opportunity to talk to our good friend Bob man

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Speaker 2: Jean right now from the University of Cincinnati and Nova

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Speaker 2: Care a little March Madness theme to our conversation today.

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Speaker 6: Bob, what's going on? How are you tony?

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Speaker 8: Just?

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Speaker 9: You know basketball season's over, so you know now you've

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Speaker 2: Before I dive into the NCAA tournament and the quick turnarounds.

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Speaker 2: What does this time of the year look like now

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Speaker 2: for the basketball teams that didn't make the Dance, that

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Speaker 9: treat them all the same. You have to make sure

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Speaker 9: they're healthy whenever they if they're staying, you have to

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Speaker 9: make sure they're healthy, if they're going to the next

443
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Speaker 9: level or if they're going to go into the transfer portal.

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Speaker 9: So there's a lot of work to be done over

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Speaker 9: the next four weeks till the end of school, at

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Speaker 9: which point then you know, everybody starts to go in

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Speaker 9: their own direction.

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Speaker 2: We saw this a little bit when we talked about

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green with the Cincinnati Heads. How much now falls

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Speaker 2: on your shoulders of conversations of you know, with guys

451
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Speaker 2: that maybe we're playing through some injuries, and now that

452
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Speaker 2: the conversation shifts to is this a situation where maybe

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Speaker 2: you address it surgically or can you do something that

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Speaker 2: rest and maybe some type of injection can help. What

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Speaker 2: are those conversations now look like with individuals?

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Speaker 9: Well, ninety five percent of cases are going to be

457
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Speaker 9: fine without surgery, So you know, you have to come

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Speaker 9: up with the management plan, whether it's using PRP injections

459
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Speaker 9: or you know, other potential conservative plans. You're only going

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Speaker 9: to operate on probably you know, ten percent of the

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Speaker 9: kids or less, in which we know that no matter

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Speaker 9: what we do out the best outcome is to do

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Speaker 9: a surgical intervention.

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Speaker 8: And that goes along pretty.

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Speaker 9: Much with all sports as you go through the college year.

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Speaker 9: But for the most part this point, we're very fortunate.

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Speaker 9: We're going to be able to treat most of our

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Speaker 9: guys conservatively. You'll be able to come back and be

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Speaker 9: ready to play, because again, you've got to remember, in

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Speaker 9: college basketball, there's really no off season. You got guys

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Speaker 9: that are already starting to work out, you got guys

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Speaker 9: that are planning to go to individual training camps. You've

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Speaker 9: got guys who you know will stay here or go

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Speaker 9: somewhere else. But college basketball really starts on June first,

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Speaker 9: So you know, you've got to get these kids ready

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Speaker 9: to go. And as they said, some of them are

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Speaker 9: already in camps, some of you are already some of

478
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Speaker 9: them are already training. So you just want to make

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Speaker 9: sure that you're getting them as healthy as you can

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Speaker 9: before they start again.

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Speaker 6: This time of the year.

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Speaker 2: For those participating in the NCAA tournament, it's an absolute,

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Speaker 2: it's a treat, it's an honor to be able to

484
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Speaker 2: participate in the tournament. But with it comes some very

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Speaker 2: hard decisions and quick turnarounds. Right if there's a team

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Speaker 2: playing today and they win, they're playing Saturday. If they

487
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Speaker 2: play tomorrow and they win, they're playing Sunday and then

488
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Speaker 2: it's a quick turnaround next week. So what goes into

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Speaker 2: that the rest and recovery with these student athletes that

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Speaker 2: are used to their routine of getting a couple of

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Speaker 2: days off. And we talked about this in the NFL

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Speaker 2: with Thursday night football after a Sunday game. How difficult

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Speaker 2: does it become when you start talking about those one

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Speaker 2: day off turnarounds.

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Speaker 6: In the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 9: What you're looking at is how fast can you get

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Speaker 9: him to recover so that within forty eight hours they're

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Speaker 9: back on the court and competing at a high level.

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Speaker 9: And that really takes a concerted effort between the strength coach,

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Speaker 9: the athletic trainer, other people on staff to say, okay,

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Speaker 9: what should we do today. Let's just do a simple

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Speaker 9: walk through. Let's work through getting our cold tubs set up.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, we you know Mike ray.

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Speaker 9: Fell, our strength coach, phenomenal guy, he would take our

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Speaker 9: cold tubs with us. We would have normal text with us,

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Speaker 9: we would have all kind of different modalities so then

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Speaker 9: we could get the kids recovered to play that next event.

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Speaker 9: Because you're right, you only have that one day off

509
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Speaker 9: and you've got to be ready to go again. So

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Speaker 9: do get a little longer turnaround in between games, unless

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Speaker 9: you get stuck playing on a Sunday and then all

512
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Speaker 9: of a sudden, the next rime you're playing on a Thursday.

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Speaker 9: But even that's more like a regular season. It's the

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Speaker 9: back to back where you're getting knowing that one day

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Speaker 9: rest to move on. So I think you have to

516
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Speaker 9: be aggressive with it. You have to make sure that

517
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Speaker 9: you have everything on the road with you because you

518
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Speaker 9: obviously don't play.

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Speaker 8: Any of them at home.

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Speaker 9: So and a lot of times the hotels you stay

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Speaker 9: at are very accommoding to let us bring in the

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Speaker 9: equipment we need in order for us to be able

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Speaker 9: to get the kids to recover.

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Speaker 8: It's like in.

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Speaker 9: Kansas City, you know, we played Tuesday, then we had

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Speaker 9: to come right back and play on Wednesday, and you know,

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Speaker 9: we had to come up with a recovery plan for

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Speaker 9: the kids so that we were ready to go the

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Speaker 9: very next day. So if you survive your conference tournament,

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Speaker 9: then you have a feel for you know, what it's

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Speaker 9: going to be like when you're in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: I also think there's a conversation and we've seen this

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Speaker 2: already news coming out today about certain players, or even

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Speaker 2: last night in the playing game with SMU, where you

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Speaker 2: have a player that obviously it's winner go home at

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Speaker 2: this point and they're just not there yet to play.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's one of those situations where the athlete

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Speaker 2: wants to do everything they can to play, and then

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Speaker 2: a lot of those situations say, well, if they advance,

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Speaker 2: then the athlete will be ready. What goes into conversations

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Speaker 2: like that, because this is something that I'm sure for

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Speaker 2: a lot of these coaches and players you dream about

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Speaker 2: your whole life, and then you've got to have some

544
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Speaker 2: hard conversations about whether to hold someone out or whether

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Speaker 2: you are okay to push something and go ahead and

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Speaker 2: give it a go. How difficult do those conversations become?

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Speaker 2: And who is involved in those types of decisions?

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Speaker 8: Well, answer the team effort.

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Speaker 9: You know, our team position, myself, the coaching staff are

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Speaker 9: strength coach, and predominantly number one person making that decision

551
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Speaker 9: is going to be the athlete themselves. So you know, Nick,

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Speaker 9: our ethics drive the comment do no harm, So in essence,

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Speaker 9: if I have an injury that I think they will

554
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Speaker 9: not make worse that our team dots and I will

555
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Speaker 9: sit with the coaches and say, hey, we think we

556
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Speaker 9: can get them through it. Hopefully they don't get worse.

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Speaker 9: There's always that potential and do we want that risk reward?

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Speaker 9: Do we want to take that risk potentially have the

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Speaker 9: kid play, get us win, or you know the risk

560
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Speaker 9: of if they play and they make themselves worse, then

561
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Speaker 9: all of a sudden, they're not ready for the next game.

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Speaker 9: So I know, I think on the TV last night,

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Speaker 9: I was watching the Miami SMU game and SMU had

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Speaker 9: a player that wasn't quite ready and he would be

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Speaker 9: ready by the next game. But again, you have to

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Speaker 9: weigh the risk reward. You also have to do what's

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Speaker 9: in the best interest of the student athlete, and that

568
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Speaker 9: is you don't want to put somebody out there who

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Speaker 9: you know, at the end of the day is going

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Speaker 9: to risk retear or making the situation and worse. So

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Speaker 9: and the next conversation, you know, obviously the student athlete

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Speaker 9: hasn't the number one say as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 9: because they they understand the competitive level they're at, they.

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Speaker 8: Understand what they need to be at in order to.

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Speaker 9: Be competitive, and if they don't think they can be

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Speaker 9: there then you know, in most cases going to say

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Speaker 9: I just can't do it. And you know, it's happened

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Speaker 9: to us a couple of times this year where we've

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Speaker 9: even warmed kids up in the game and after the

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Speaker 9: warm up sit there and say, okay, what do you

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Speaker 9: think We're you at?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Are you at ninety percent? You know that's better than

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Speaker 9: you know the next guy they're.

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Speaker 8: Coming in or are you below that?

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Speaker 9: And we've had kids pull themselves after warm up. That's just,

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Speaker 9: you know, the way it is in any sport.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to obviously the will to want to play,

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Speaker 2: but also the trust that is there between the training

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Speaker 2: staff and the coaches and the individual athlete. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they're families as well, which everything goes into those

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Speaker 2: decision And Bob, thanks so much for your time. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the start of the NCAA tournament. More importantly, enjoy some

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Speaker 2: rest for yourself. Rest and recovery after the season is

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Speaker 2: just as important for you as it is for the

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Speaker 2: student athletes.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Tony. Especially as you get older, the rest

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Speaker 9: careio needs.

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Speaker 8: To be longer.

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Speaker 6: That's it, Bob, thanks so much.

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Speaker 8: You got it.

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Speaker 9: Have a great day, guys.

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Speaker 2: for Moweger today March Madness updates Nebraska all over Troy

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Speaker 2: seventy six forty seven. You know there was a thing

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Speaker 2: Okay forty seven Wisconsin in a tight one forty one

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Speaker 2: thirty nine over high Point at the half. Louisville up

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Speaker 2: ten over USF at the half, thirty seven to twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: And another game that just went final. The first game

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Speaker 2: Thornton career has come to an end as well. TCU

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Speaker 2: after a fifteen point lead was erased. Ohio State took

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Speaker 3: Look to finish it off. Ohio State fast sixty six

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Speaker 3: sixty four. This is what this is what infuriates me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: four seconds. Yeah, you had to go to the length

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Speaker 3: of the floor and you just did a real simple

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Speaker 3: like give and go one pass the length of one

662
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Speaker 3: pass and you have a bad half court shot, like

663
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Speaker 3: you couldn't come up with something better.

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Speaker 6: Than that one pass.

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Speaker 3: Like, I get it, that's not an easy situation to

666
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Speaker 3: be in, but you made it harder on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Like what is that I just looked up according to AI.

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Speaker 2: According to to Google, you can typically get four to

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Speaker 2: five dribbles comfortably in four seconds.

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Speaker 3: What is well, I don't believe that. What is uh?

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Speaker 3: Why did they know they didn't pass it? When you

672
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Speaker 3: all the time out, it doesn't advance the ball, not

673
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Speaker 3: in college. It's stupid. It doesn't women's basketball, So that

674
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Speaker 3: was part of the problem. And didn't pass the ball.

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Speaker 3: I just I thought that was I get it. You

676
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Speaker 3: wanted you want the ball in the hands of your

677
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Speaker 3: best player, which is Bruce Thornton. He inbounded it, immediately

678
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Speaker 3: got the ball back and had eighty five feet still

679
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Speaker 3: to go to the rim. He went forty and just

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Speaker 3: now fucked one. This is a different, different animal here.

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Speaker 3: John wall once went full the full length of the

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Speaker 3: court in four seconds to make a layup. And I'm

683
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Speaker 3: not saying that you can in that situation, but the

684
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Speaker 3: way TCU was guarding it, could you not make a

685
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Speaker 3: pass that advances the ball a little bit further? I

686
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Speaker 3: mean they essentially threw it in by the baseline. Didn't

687
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Speaker 3: like it, didn't love it. Wish there was a better

688
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Speaker 3: call there from Jake Diebler, But you know, high State

689
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: season has come to it's great to be in the tournament.

690
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Speaker 3: It sucks to be the first team.

691
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's good to have that first game, unless you lose,

692
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Speaker 2: then it sucks.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean there's really not much of a rooting

695
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Speaker 3: interest for me the rest of the way. I was

696
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: just talking to one of my friends and I'm like, Okay, obviously, well,

697
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: now what I want Miami to do, Well, I'm rooting

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Speaker 3: for them, I guess, Akron, Okay, sure, I basically am

699
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: rooting for anybody but Michigan, UCLA and Yukon.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if anyone in the Cincy three sixty Challenge,

701
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Speaker 2: if anyone picked Ohio State f so their bracket would

702
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Speaker 2: essentially be busted.

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00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: No, no one did. Nobody was dumb enough to do that.

704
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Speaker 3: Even my friends, most of us picked against Ohio State

705
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Speaker 3: just because we've watched them enough to know who they are,

706
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: which is typically a not very good team.

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Speaker 6: Yep, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brundle joined us next Quick Hits ESPN fifteen thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: You guys not making fun of me, though, because you

710
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Speaker 3: know you can. Didn't say words. Only thing I got

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Speaker 3: you to the tournament.

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Speaker 2: Only thing I said, was it just kind of felt

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Speaker 2: like big boy, big twelve ball at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you said. That's that's some serious cope, right.

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Speaker 2: Ped Brundle's next on ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports.

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Speaker 7: we were going to be able to achieve.

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Speaker 1: We got here because we worked together and had each

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Speaker 4: our differences and work together, there is no challenge too

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Speaker 6: I have heart failure and being out of breatha.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes.

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Speaker 1: Since E three sixty.

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Speaker 2: Was looking for Mo mo is uh. I don't know, Austin,

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Speaker 2: how many drinks deep you think MO is right now

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Speaker 2: at the glen A lot, a lot, a lot, a

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Speaker 2: lot mo is not in today. Chad Brundle is in today,

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Speaker 2: and Chad Breundle is in tomorrow. We're not here tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Austin ridiculous because of Kentucky basketball.

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Speaker 3: Well, I had taken the day off regardless, and so

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Speaker 3: did you. So yeah, I don't know why we keep

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Speaker 3: blaming Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky basketball is on tomorrow anyway, you don't have to

765
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Speaker 2: mean to take a day for it now.

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Speaker 3: I mean I still do.

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Speaker 2: It's an off day, but this time tomorrow, be a

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Speaker 2: couple of bourbons deep down in Louisville. I'll be right here,

769
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Speaker 2: all right, you're gonna be in here tomorrow. You're in

770
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Speaker 2: here today. Unfortunately, today, uh, you're here and none of

771
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Speaker 2: the TVs are working, so you can't really watch along

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Speaker 2: with the action.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: When I when I heard you guys talking about that

775
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Speaker 14: on the way here, I almost turned around and went

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Speaker 14: back home. I play the best of play ESPN Radio.

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Speaker 14: Give me something, but not me what. I can't watch

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Speaker 14: this point. I can't watch games. No, I don't know

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Speaker 14: who to blame either. I think Spectrum.

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Speaker 2: You think it's an inside job here, No, No, somebody

781
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Speaker 2: wants people to work and not watch the TVs.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that.

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Speaker 14: Okay, I mean I have to work tomorrow. I have

784
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Speaker 14: to talk about these games. Yep, like this part of

785
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Speaker 14: your job. This is part of covering the tournament. It's

786
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Speaker 14: unbelieving and doing a show. And my daughter has volleyball

787
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Speaker 14: from seven. What are you doing.

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 14: The girlfriend usually takes her on Thursdays. Oh my right, gosh,

790
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Speaker 14: but she's sick. Uh oh, so she's home, like she's

791
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Speaker 14: not coming over. Yeah, so now I have.

792
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Speaker 6: To do that next.

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Speaker 2: And with that being said, you're going to miss the

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Speaker 2: start of Keegan's Final fourteen BYU at seven twenty five.

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Speaker 14: Look, I know it sounds crazy. They don't have a

796
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Speaker 14: bad draw, like they're not no bad like sleeper pick.

797
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Speaker 2: But I wonder if they figured anything out down the

798
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Speaker 2: stretch in the last couple of games where they did

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Speaker 2: play a little bit better.

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Speaker 14: They better, They looked like they started to figure out

801
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 14: how to play without Richie Saunders. But the concern for

802
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 14: me is they couldn't stop a running nose no through

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Speaker 14: the end of the season.

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Speaker 6: So at some.

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Speaker 2: Point in time, like aj Devance is incredible, yeah, but

806
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Speaker 2: anytime you have arguably the best player in the tournament,

807
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: you got a chance. Yeah, he's he's one of them,

808
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Speaker 2: if not the top.

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 14: I have a I have a different opinion on who

810
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Speaker 14: I think is the best player in this tournament.

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Speaker 6: You think do you think I think Kingston Flemings.

812
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: No, he just walked off the floor after a terrible

813
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: Bruce Thornton play just got drawn.

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Speaker 6: Up for him. No, Darius a Cuff?

815
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Speaker 3: Okay, he's a dog.

816
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

817
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 3: What is Craig Jacker? Where a dude's name is from?

818
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Speaker 6: Miami?

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Speaker 2: I read somewhere that Hawaii doesn't switch any ball screens.

820
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Speaker 2: If they don't switch a ball screen against a cuff,

821
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Speaker 2: he'll have fifty points.

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Speaker 6: Might easy.

823
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Speaker 2: And this is the problem with this time of the year.

824
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Speaker 2: Like I'm filling out a bracket and I just hear

825
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Speaker 2: like tidbits, like I heard that the guy for Troy

826
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Speaker 2: was like, we don't take elevators or escalators. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I like that, You're gonna be tired. I'll take I'll

828
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Speaker 2: take Troy. That didn't work.

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Speaker 6: They maybe should have mixed in an.

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Speaker 2: McNeice has the manager, the guy that walks out with

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Speaker 2: the boombox me he strikes still there? No, okay, Well

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Speaker 2: he lost to Texas. Do you think there will be

833
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Speaker 2: folks from Xavier that head to Portland? To heckle Sean

834
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Speaker 2: Miller in tonight's game. How could you not like, here's

835
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Speaker 2: down again? Are you going to commit to the bid

836
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Speaker 2: or what?

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Speaker 6: Correct?

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Speaker 3: Maine or Oregon? I think they're in Portland. That's why

839
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Speaker 3: I just asked Maine or Oregon?

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Speaker 6: Oregon? Did I say Maine?

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Speaker 2: No? Oh, he's trying to see this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: We're at the end of We're at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. Here, what do you got coming up on

844
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Speaker 2: the show today?

845
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Speaker 6: Chat? Without watching any games? Nothing?

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Speaker 14: Now I can't watch games like I'm just gonna turn

847
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Speaker 14: the mic on and I don't know. Good luck, yeah,

848
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Speaker 14: good luck.

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Speaker 3: Well, you weren't allowed to do play by play. We

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Speaker 3: get to begin with, right.

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Speaker 2: I understand that, but I'm pretty sure Mode did play

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Speaker 2: by play for the u c F game. I was

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Speaker 2: on the phone with him.

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Speaker 14: I'm not going to do play by play, but like

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Speaker 14: I'm still I would like to be able to knowledgeably

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Speaker 14: talk about what you see. We will talk something about

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00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 14: Miami last night. Offensively, that was impressive. I mean they

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Speaker 14: had they had that first half where they shoot the

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Speaker 14: lights out, then SMU starts to over extend and close

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Speaker 14: out Miami's shot facing back door cutting, like making them

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Speaker 14: pay for their over aggressiveness trying to take away the three,

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Speaker 14: and then you got them in a blender yep, and

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Speaker 14: then the three ball opened back up and they closed

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Speaker 14: it out with a couple of threes.

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Speaker 6: But really the defense was what.

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Speaker 2: Was Yeah, any this bit you see in their last

867
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: who lost the nineteen turnovers? Anytime you play a game

868
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Speaker 2: and you turn over less than five times, you're gonna

869
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Speaker 2: have a chance to win. Yeah, And Miami's they possessed

870
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Speaker 2: the ball and they value the basketball really well.

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Speaker 14: And they run good stuff, like they know who they are.

872
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 14: They're willing to share the ball, They're willing to take

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Speaker 14: the right shot. That was the big thing for me

874
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Speaker 14: and watching them yesterday, was there really a point where

875
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Speaker 14: you're like, I don't know about that shot.

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Speaker 2: I mean the forty plus threes, but like very larly

877
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Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, that's a force. Yeah, they get

878
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: him in the flow of their offense. Well, so we'll

879
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: talk about them. I still I don't understand this whole.

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep six pitchers, but we're not going

881
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Speaker 2: to a six man starting rotation with the Reds. What

882
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Speaker 2: happens when you need that six guy, and he hasn't

883
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: been pitching a bunch and you haven't had him in

884
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: Louisville working to extend his innings and get your pitch

885
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: count up. Like, I just don't understand the strategy of like,

886
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: we want all of our best guys here if you're

887
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Speaker 2: not gonna use one of them right, whichever one it is,

888
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Speaker 2: or however you configure that, I don't understand the like

889
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: you have triple A for a reason. It's a delicate

890
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: balance because I get the side of wanting your best

891
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: players on your big league roster, but you also want

892
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: to make sure that these guys are developing as you

893
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Speaker 2: go as well.

894
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they are going to use them

895
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 3: just the two of them will pitch on the same day, basically.

896
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Speaker 3: Is that that That's how I understood it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just said again there are teams that

898
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Speaker 2: that go by that.

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: For starting pitchers how again, I think Nick Martinez was

901
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: a it was a bit of a unicorn.

902
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Speaker 6: Sure, you could kind of throw them at anything. You

903
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 6: can do that.

904
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Speaker 2: I don't know for starters, how difficult or different that

905
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: is of a feel if you've got to go in

906
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: the third inning or something like that.

907
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Speaker 3: But I think Chase Burns would be the one best

908
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: suited to be that guy. Yes, like he he doesn't

909
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: start any of the games, but he'll come in and

910
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: give you four innings.

911
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: And maybe if you pair him with like a Williamson

912
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: who's fastball is not gonna blow you away, and you

913
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: show that and then come back with Burns, maybe that

914
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: makes it more difficult on a the other four.

915
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: Days, right, exactly that, And as we said to Charlie,

916
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: but like that, that's the downside. That's why they aren't

917
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: going to do it for very long. I think they're

918
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: just doing it to get through the first couple of

919
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: weeks of the season, and there is a risky sure,

920
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: and you're counting on, you know, those two guys to

921
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: eat up basically a whole game and give your bullpen

922
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: a break.

923
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't feel great about the pitching staff right now.

924
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they but makes me a little uneasy with his

925
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: spring and all being the opening day starter.

926
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Speaker 14: Yeah, like, and we didn't see that, Okay, Like the

927
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 14: first two weeks you take it for what it is.

928
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 14: They're working on stuff, they're getting their arm back in shape, whatever,

929
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Speaker 14: and then you see them start to draw on progress.

930
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Speaker 2: When I get to under ten days before the season,

931
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Speaker 2: I need to start seeing it. Especially you're gonna be

932
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: the opening day starter.

933
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Like it doesn't feel like any of these guys

934
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 14: have really got stretched out, Like we haven't.

935
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

936
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Speaker 14: It worries me about the start of this season. What

937
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 14: is supposed to be the strength? Yeah today if your

938
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 14: strength all of a sudden becomes a liability, like I

939
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 14: don't feel great about where things are in April. Yeah,

940
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 14: maybe they figure it out. But and then Bengals Bengels

941
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 14: legit question. Is this defense across the board top to

942
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Speaker 14: bottom better than it was when the season ended.

943
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Speaker 2: Charlie gold Smith said today, and I hadn't. We hadn't

944
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Speaker 2: talked about it much.

945
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Speaker 5: He said.

946
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Speaker 2: It feels like on defense they're in a rebuild, which

947
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Speaker 2: is weird to think about the offense that they have

948
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: in this all in mentality, But the moves they've made

949
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: and the deals they've done feels like a rebuild.

950
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Speaker 14: I like the guys they got in free agency, don't

951
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 14: get me wrong. I like the three additions. Where where's

952
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 14: the is there any depth on this defense? If one

953
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 14: guy breaking outweigh the subtractions. Like I'm looking at it

954
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 14: and I'm saying, okay, like you, you can get me

955
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Speaker 14: on board with a couple of the moves. But when

956
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Speaker 14: I when I zoom out and look at each depth chart,

957
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Speaker 14: look at what's expected from each of the position groups,

958
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Speaker 14: it gets bleak pretty quick, right. And that's that's not

959
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Speaker 14: a great thing in the NFL. That I mean, that's

960
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 14: that's dangerous that they don't have what what name one

961
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Speaker 14: guy that you feel like is a good depth piece

962
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Speaker 14: right now on this defense?

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Speaker 6: Hard to come by on.

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Speaker 5: Just one.

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Speaker 6: No, Austin, No, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's insanely concerning.

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Speaker 2: Correct, correct, We're done. Chad Brendle is next.

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Speaker 6: For what it's worth.

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00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Louisville's opened up a fifty one to thirty five lead

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Speaker 2: now over South Florida.

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Speaker 14: I faded that, like I I thought that was a

972
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Speaker 14: sneaky upset pick until yeah, once the one that everybody picks.

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Speaker 6: It's never the.

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Speaker 2: One, yeah, never. Chad Brendle's next. Have a great rest

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