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Speaker 5: All right, here we go six oh nine, seven hundred

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Speaker 5: WLW Welcome in to RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

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Speaker 5: Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance Pacallister. How you doing? Thanks for

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Speaker 5: making your way here? Settle in two zero point five

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Speaker 5: of the day. Four o'clock deadline, the close of the

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Speaker 5: tag to their pl It came, it went, and according

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Speaker 5: to the NFL Network, the Bengals did not tag Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 5: That means he's free to hit the market as a

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Speaker 5: free agent. The Bengals could earn a third round compensatory

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Speaker 5: agency goes he Trey Hendrickson said goodbye to the fans

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Speaker 5: and the organization in an Instagram post this afternoon. Including

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Speaker 5: saying Cincinnati is home now and forever. We are ten

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Speaker 5: minutes away from jumping into conversation with James Rapine his

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Speaker 5: reaction to the news of the day what it means

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Speaker 5: going forward. The contract website spot Rack details Dalton Reisner's

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Speaker 5: thirty six point eight million dollars this year guaranteed, and

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Speaker 5: Next, James Rapine checks in, I'll get his thoughts on

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Speaker 5: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Ervelle seven WLW. All Right,

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Speaker 5: my first guest covers the Bengals like a Shutdown Corner

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Speaker 5: We must be speaking of James Rapine, and let's speak

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Speaker 5: of the Trey Hendrickson News today. Your reaction to no

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Speaker 6: Now, yeah, that's right, no tag for Trey, even though

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Speaker 6: they were in position. I thought in a lot of

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Speaker 6: the relationship, and the relationship was non existent and so

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Speaker 6: not surprised at all. This was my expectation for months.

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Speaker 6: I think the Bengals expected it for months. That didn't

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Speaker 6: But I always knew it was a long shot, Lance,

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Speaker 6: and so I'm not surprised at all that Trey Henderson

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Speaker 2: Probably a week from now.

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Speaker 6: I think it gets done really early Monday, during that

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Speaker 5: James, what would you say to the Bengal fan tonight

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Speaker 6: Yeah? O, Well, it's complicated, and it is complicated, and

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Speaker 6: it's not as easy as just saying, all right, well

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Speaker 6: where it is on the Bengals. It's on them to

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Speaker 6: I was thinking about it today. So they agreed to

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Speaker 6: To him three weeks ago, a month ago and say, hey, Trey,

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Speaker 6: Here's the other part of this that really made it

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Speaker 5: James In's simplest terms explain the still the remaining possibility

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Speaker 6: All of those things are major factors. But if the

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Speaker 6: It doesn't mean these guys have to start, but they

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Speaker 6: And so that's five guys right there.

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Speaker 2: Well, that means that you need to lose.

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Speaker 6: Well, Trey Hendrickson, he's going to sign a big deal,

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Speaker 6: It's free agents in versus free agents out, and there

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Speaker 5: How should a Bengal fan? How will you remember the

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's funny how it ends, and usually things

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Speaker 5: According to a report today, the Dalton Reisner deal of

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Speaker 5: one year is three point two five million, a million years,

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Speaker 5: garanteed one point seven and incentives potentially. What's your reaction

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Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, what a steal of a deal, Dalton man.

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Speaker 6: You must really love Baker. He must love bake or stadium.

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Speaker 2: They said this, he's a Gold Glove winner year ago.

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Speaker 9: They'll be hitting down to that nine spot, eight nine

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Speaker 5: He has been an absolute mess offensively for the past

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Speaker 11: It's a trade that I still have questions about. When

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Speaker 11: They need him to hit because he's a third baseman

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Speaker 5: Charlie wrote a great piece about it. By the way,

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Speaker 5: Charlie Chalkboard free to your email inback inbox through substack

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Speaker 5: also Fox nineteen dot com.

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Speaker 5: Listen to what Gordon Windmeyer said, keep an.

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Speaker 14: Eye on to Brian Hayes because the guy is a

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Speaker 14: tremendous defensive third basement, but he hasn't been the best

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Speaker 14: hitter in recent years. You know, if he goes the

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Speaker 14: wrong direction with his hitting, they're going to have to

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Speaker 14: probably look for some rotational pieces to get in there

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Speaker 14: and really start matching him up more.

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Speaker 2: But they've got options there.

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Speaker 14: He is as good a defender at any single position

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Speaker 14: they have, and they have a Gold Glove catcher in Tradina,

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Speaker 14: they have a Goal Glove finalist at first base, they've

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Speaker 14: got a guy that's that.

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Speaker 15: Probably plays Gold Glove caliber.

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Speaker 14: Defense at second base, and they got a really nice

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Speaker 14: center fielder. But to Brian Hayes is easily the best

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Speaker 14: defender they have at any single position, So you'd like

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Speaker 14: to have him in there as often as possible. He's

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Speaker 14: got to hit just enough. And the other thing is

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Speaker 14: if the middle of the order. I'll say one through five.

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Speaker 14: If that performs like you think, it has a chance

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Speaker 14: to swore as inserted in there, and maybe shall Stewart

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Speaker 14: being able to provide a little bit in the fly hole.

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Speaker 14: If they're doing enough to keep the lineup rolling, you

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Speaker 14: can afford a little less at the bottom of the lineup.

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Speaker 5: Gordon Whitmeyer from the Inquirer, question is can he do

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Speaker 5: that to allow them to do that. Charlie Goldsmith and

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Speaker 5: Charlie Chalkboard mentioned since the start of the twenty four season,

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Speaker 5: he Brian Hayes is the only player in baseball with

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Speaker 5: at least nine hundred trips to the plate and an

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Speaker 5: OPS below six hundred, the only one in the game.

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Speaker 5: And yet Charlie talked with Nick Crawl and ask him

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Speaker 5: about it and the Reds belief that the underlying metrics,

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Speaker 5: analytics stuff, metrics stuff, that there's something there. Nick told

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Speaker 5: Charlie it's just getting him to hit the ball more

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Speaker 5: out in front and get more line drives. Then he'll

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Speaker 5: be able to spray the outfield use the gaps. He

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Speaker 5: hit the ball on the ground a lot in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 5: so that's part of the process. They're working on it.

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Speaker 5: And yesterday, to be fair, as I'm listening to Chris

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Speaker 5: Welsh and Tommy thrall, key, Brian Hayes came up with

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Speaker 5: a big hit.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, and here's.

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Speaker 10: The pitch swung on that's gonna be BALI goes into

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Speaker 10: the gap and it's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Go all the way to the wall on.

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Speaker 10: One hop off the left centerfield wall. Here comes Benson,

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Speaker 10: here comes Marte, and now Jose Travino as a bass

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Speaker 10: clearing double a left center field my key, Brian Hayes makes.

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Speaker 9: Just a nine to six ball game. You talk about

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Speaker 9: a beautiful piece of hitting. That was a breaking ball.

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Speaker 9: It was down and end keep Brian Hayes went down

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Speaker 9: to get it, stayed on it though, and just drove

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Speaker 9: it right into the gap and split the cup defenders McCormick,

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Speaker 9: Consenter and Carlson perfectly.

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Speaker 5: The Reds need that not all the time, certain let

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Speaker 5: me they need more of that. And I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know ultimately what the scale looks like. I'm

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Speaker 5: holding my hands up and I'm lifting him up and

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Speaker 5: down like a scale.

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Speaker 2: How much does he have to hit to.

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Speaker 5: Make it acceptable to carry him in the lineup every

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Speaker 5: day versus what he's not going if he's if he's

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Speaker 5: not gonna hit. How much of it can be about

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Speaker 5: defense and making spectacular plays and charging bare hand out

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Speaker 5: at first in saving runs? What does the offensive number

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Speaker 5: look like that balances out that scale and doesn't tip

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Speaker 5: it the other way and say, wait, we got to

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Speaker 5: do something here. Catching it and throwing it is great,

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Speaker 5: but we can't have a third baseman. We can't have

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Speaker 5: somebody in our lineup hitting two twenty who's hitting five

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Speaker 5: home runs in a season, and I don't know what

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Speaker 5: that number is. And I think that's gonna make it

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Speaker 5: a really interesting scenario to follow this year with the

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Speaker 5: Reds in there. At this point, they're starting third baseman.

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Speaker 5: Still ahead college basketball, last night, Xavier fans Sue at

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Speaker 5: the Richard Patino Coaches Show posed a question I think

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Speaker 5: is on the mind of most Musketeer fans. Richard Patino answered,

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Speaker 5: you'll hear what he said about his future and more.

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Speaker 5: An update on Luke Skaljack and those Miami RedHawks. As

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Speaker 5: we head down the stretch to the seven o'clock news,

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Speaker 5: It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven

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Speaker 5: hundred WLW. Hey, thanks for spending Birdie here Tuesday night,

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Speaker 5: here with me. I'm Lance Bacanlester, your host, Joe Waddelle,

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Speaker 5: your producer. Tonight, as always, we thank you for being

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Speaker 5: a listener and hanging out. Let's close the hour with

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Speaker 5: some college basketball. Last week, Jeff Goodman, the college basketball

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Speaker 5: insider I use air quotes and from the Field of

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Speaker 5: sixty eight podcast, created quite a stir when he tweeted

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Speaker 5: out last week and said it in his podcast its

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Speaker 5: Xavier coach Richard Patino would quote highly consider leaving Xavier

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Speaker 5: for Providence. Xavier played Providence last week, so you can

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Speaker 5: imagine the added stir to that story. So last night

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Speaker 5: was Richard Patino's Coaches Show, first show since that rumor

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Speaker 5: came out. A Xaber fan by the name of Sue.

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Speaker 5: You know, they went around after Joe and Byron did

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Speaker 5: the initial segments of the show and Q and A

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Speaker 5: with coach, then they sent it out to the audience

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Speaker 5: for questions from Xavier fans and Xavier fans. Sue, I

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Speaker 5: assume she raised her hand that Mike comes to the table.

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Speaker 5: She praised Richard Patino for a multitude of things, and

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Speaker 5: then asked the question everybody was wondering about. This is

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Speaker 5: what it sounded.

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Speaker 4: Like, rumors are flying around. I'll take the compliments.

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Speaker 2: That's a good seven.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's sure your bold, and I just wanted to

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Speaker 10: tell you, we hope you.

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Speaker 2: Don't thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I said, Well, here's what I could tell everybody here.

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Speaker 16: I promise you I will never leave after a fourteen

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Speaker 16: or fifteen win season, because that that's not.

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Speaker 4: My intent at all.

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Speaker 16: I appreciate greatly what Xavier has given me. Will I

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Speaker 16: say I'm never going to leave. I have no idea.

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Speaker 16: I have no idea. They may tell me to leave

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Speaker 16: in a couple of years. I haven't.

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Speaker 4: That's happened to me as well.

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Speaker 16: But what I can tell you, what I really, really,

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Speaker 16: really pride myself in, is building a championship program.

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Speaker 4: I left New Mexico. I loved New Mexico.

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Speaker 16: I didn't want to leave, but I held my hot

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Speaker 16: head high in the sense that I cut down two

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Speaker 16: nets in a row. I went to the NCAA tournament

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Speaker 16: twice and felt like I gave everything to New Mexico.

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Speaker 16: I have not given a lot to Xavier just yet.

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Speaker 4: So if that.

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Speaker 16: Tells you what My answer is right there, like, we've

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Speaker 16: got a lot of work to do and the job

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Speaker 16: is not even close to finish. So I would tell

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Speaker 16: you nobody needs to worry about any of the stuff

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Speaker 16: they're reading on the internet. I hope to build a

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Speaker 16: championship team here. I want to win the Big East

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Speaker 16: in the worst way. At Xavier, We're not been close

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Speaker 16: to there yet. So all my focus and my energy

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Speaker 16: is into that. And I can promise you as well.

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Speaker 16: This girl wants to finish her high school at Summit

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Speaker 16: and she's got three more years, So there you go.

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Speaker 4: Need a couple more years.

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Speaker 5: Richard Patino last night, obviously with his daughter in attendance,

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Speaker 5: on the Richard Patino Coaches Show on fifty five KRS.

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Speaker 5: Question Ask, Question Answered. Xavier takes on Seaton Hall Tip

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Speaker 5: coming in just a few minutes down the dial Senior

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Speaker 5: Night at Sinta Center. Joe and Byron with the call

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Speaker 5: on fifty five KRC. In Richard Patino's first season, the

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Speaker 5: Musketeers are fourteen and fifteen overall, six and twelve in

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Speaker 5: the Big East. And what Xavier's been around like one

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Speaker 5: hundred and what five seasons of college basketball? Zavier's never

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Speaker 5: lost twelve games in a conference, play in any conference

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Speaker 5: over there. Now, for fairness, a lot of those years

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Speaker 5: there weren't eighteen games, eighteen opportunities, and there's still more,

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Speaker 5: but to this point had never lost twelve conference games

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Speaker 5: until this season. Try to get to the five hundred

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Speaker 5: mark overall with a win tonight. By the way, update

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Speaker 5: Travis Steele telling Caleb no for Channel nine that Luke

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Speaker 5: Skaljack will play tonight, their starting point guard, who replaced

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Speaker 5: their original starting point guard, Evan Ipsarov Kuffkath, who was

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Speaker 5: injured early in the season. Luke missed a Friday Night's

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Speaker 5: game with a wrist issue. Travis said he is not

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent, but basically who is at this time

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Speaker 5: of the season. He wants to go. He will give

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Speaker 5: it a go as the Musketeers try to get to

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Speaker 5: twenty or try to get to thirty and zero on

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Speaker 5: the season. By the way, if you get a chance,

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Speaker 5: if you are one who peruses the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 5: thanks to my guy Chuck Clevenger Wall Street Journal this

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Speaker 5: week writing about the Miami RedHawks headline they're college basketball's

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Speaker 5: only unbeaten team. Why does everyone think they're terrible? And

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Speaker 5: it's a breakdown and they say there isn't a college

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Speaker 5: basketball team around having a season quite like the RedHawks.

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Speaker 5: The RedHawks are also a statistical aberration unlike anything in

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Speaker 5: sports modern history. And it details their record, their strength

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Speaker 5: of schedule, the difficulty in scheduling, Travis Steele saying, there's

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Speaker 5: something to winning. Ultimately, it's a pretty good read and

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Speaker 5: break down of the season that is for the Miami

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Speaker 5: RedHawks and how they tried to approach scheduling this year

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Speaker 5: that ultimately has them as I think two hundred and

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Speaker 5: ninety second in the country and strength of schedule non

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Speaker 5: conference number three sixty four out of three sixty five.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's do this. Let's hopen up the lines.

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Speaker 5: I want to do a Trey Hendrickson topic when we

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Speaker 5: come back. How will you remember Trey Hendrickson in his

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Speaker 5: five seasons with the Bengals five one, three, seven four nine,

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Speaker 5: seven thousand, one, eight hundred the big one, that is

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Speaker 5: afternoons on RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet

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Speaker 5: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling.

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Speaker 5: Seven oh eight, seven hundred WLW it's right Al Carrier

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Speaker 5: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance McAllister. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for making your way here. One hour from now we

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Speaker 5: will head there fifth Third Arena, Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal previews,

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Speaker 5: UC and by you. Dan and Terry will set it

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Speaker 5: up officially with pregame coverage at eight thirty tonight.

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Speaker 2: Let's begin this hour.

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Speaker 5: If you missed the first hour, oh man, you missed

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Speaker 5: James Rapine talking Trey Hendrickson. We did a topic on

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Speaker 5: Key Brian Hayes. You heard from Richard Patino. I want

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Speaker 5: to do a double play to begin this hour two topics,

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Speaker 5: both of which I set up in the first hour,

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Speaker 5: and now for the first time tonight, lines are open

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Speaker 5: for your input and reaction to our discussion. One the

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Speaker 5: Key Brian Hayes issue. I don't want to say issue

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Speaker 5: that's too strong. The idea of Key Brian Hayes. And

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Speaker 5: if he is in fact a glove first player with

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Speaker 5: not much offense, so what do you need to see?

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Speaker 5: What's the balancing act of?

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Speaker 7: Then?

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Speaker 5: Just how much does he have to hit to justify

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Speaker 5: his glove. It's a lot easier the other way around

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Speaker 5: when you say, well, you know, he's not that great

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Speaker 5: a defender, but he does this offensively. In this case,

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Speaker 5: he's not that great to hear, but he does this defensively.

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Speaker 5: We kind of like weighed the scale and the input

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Speaker 5: on that of just what does he have to do?

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Speaker 5: I mean, he can't hit like two hundred, but he

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Speaker 5: can't hit two twenty and hit five home runs and

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Speaker 5: play one hundred and fifty games.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think, and.

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Speaker 5: Yet I remember charging bare hand plays he made and

655
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Speaker 5: rallies thwarted last season. The other topic is Trey Hendrickson.

656
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Speaker 5: Deadline came and went today. No tag for Trey, he

657
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Speaker 5: becomes a free agent. I'm not even really as interested

658
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Speaker 5: in debating the merits of did the Bengals blow it

659
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Speaker 5: or not. I think it comes down to everybody you knew,

660
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 5: I knew, we knew. Everybody knew that Tray wasn't coming back.

661
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Speaker 5: So it's difficult to trade somebody under those circumstances. And

662
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: with the level of distrust on both sides. I mean,

663
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Speaker 5: who's to say if the Bengals had franchise tagged him

664
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Speaker 5: and then tried to trade him, then Trey doesn't you

665
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Speaker 5: know that there's no cooperation on that, and and then

666
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Speaker 5: the Bengals are stuck holding a thirty million dollar tag

667
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 5: for one season, you would have lost your mind. I'm

668
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 5: not even really worried about the schematics of all that.

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Speaker 5: I'm just curious, how, now, with it all said and done,

670
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Speaker 5: how Trey Hendrickson should be remembered for his five seasons

671
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Speaker 5: in Cincinnati. To me, it's pretty easy. I will remember

672
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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson one as the best free agent signing in

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Speaker 5: the history of the Bengals franchise. And it's not even close.

674
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Speaker 5: Seventy starts, sixty one sacks, the all time single season

675
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Speaker 5: record for the franchise, sacking a Super Bowl, four Pro Bowls?

676
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

677
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Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson above and beyond the top free agent signing

678
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Speaker 5: in the history of the franchise. Beyond that, I will

679
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: view him and remember him as a relentless Loane Wolf impactor,

680
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 5: because he had a motor that it was like, you

681
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: wound him up and you let him go. And sometime

682
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 5: they called him blackout Trey for a reason because he

683
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: would like to lose his mind out on the field.

684
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Speaker 2: But he was all over the place.

685
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Speaker 5: And he when I say lone Wolf, I don't think

686
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Speaker 5: there's enough appreciation for what he did with his little help,

687
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: specifically on the other end of the line. You talk about,

688
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 5: he was the center of attention for every offense. Double teamed.

689
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: Can't let Trey wreck the game, don't worry about who's

690
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: on the other side, be it Joseph Osi or anybody else.

691
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: And yet Trey still put up all those numbers. I

692
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 5: think that's the most staggering thing he did in five years.

693
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Speaker 5: He did all of that without a threat, for the

694
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Speaker 5: most part, on the opposite end of the line. And

695
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Speaker 5: he was a quintessential closer when it was the fourth quarter,

696
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Speaker 5: when it was a close game, when the Bengals needed

697
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Speaker 5: to protect the lead.

698
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Speaker 2: How many times did he seal the deal with.

699
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Speaker 5: A sack or a strip sack to end the opponent's opportunity.

700
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Speaker 5: That's how I'm going to remember Trey Hendrickson. I also

701
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: remember the first night that when that deal went down,

702
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Speaker 5: he signed four years, sixty million, And I remember I

703
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: had a couple of guests on that night on Sports

704
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Speaker 5: Talk who covered the Saints, and I think it was

705
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Speaker 5: the concern or the question being asked by everybody Trey

706
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Speaker 5: had had a breakout season in twenty twenty with the

707
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Speaker 5: Saints turned out to be his final year. He had

708
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Speaker 5: thirteen and a half sacks, came out of nowhere, and

709
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: the question being asked was, well, wait a minute. He

710
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 5: had Cam Jordan on the other end, and Cam was

711
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 5: commanding so much attention and respect. Did Trey just clean

712
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Speaker 5: up and take advantage of all the attention that Cam

713
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Speaker 5: Jordan was getting? That was a concern, And we saw

714
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Speaker 5: him come here his first year fourteen sacks, then eight,

715
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Speaker 5: then seventeen and a half, seventeen and a half and

716
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Speaker 5: seven last year, seven or seven games. Last year he

717
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 5: had four sacks before he got hurt and had to

718
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Speaker 5: have surgery. Was was his time here perfect?

719
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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: I think some would say we're out as welcome. There

721
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 5: was too much drama around Trey. Did it end well?

722
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Speaker 5: Not particularly? I guess I would argue, how many Bengals

723
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: who spend time here see their end end well? I

724
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 5: mean not, you know, not to point a finger directly

725
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 5: at the organization, but it would it be shocking if

726
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Speaker 5: we started putting together a list of people who played here,

727
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 5: succeeded here, and then left here for whatever reason, and

728
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Speaker 5: it just what it didn't feel right at another one.

729
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Speaker 5: Trey could have helped the situation. I think the Bengals

730
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Speaker 5: could have helped the situation. I've never understood the people

731
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Speaker 5: who resented the fact that Trey got hurt last year.

732
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Speaker 5: I've had people tell me he should have given his

733
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Speaker 5: money back last year. And every person who said that

734
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Speaker 5: to me, I said, well, did you ask Joe Burrow

735
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Speaker 5: to give back money for not playing in nine games?

736
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Speaker 5: I I think some people believe that Trey was dogging

737
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Speaker 5: it and like, wasn't hurt, so so he went ahead

738
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Speaker 5: and had a surgery just for show. Heading into free agency.

739
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 5: He just thought he'd have a core surgery just for

740
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 5: for show. Why would he do that. He had four

741
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 5: sacks in his first seven games and then he got

742
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Speaker 5: hurt and then he had to have surgery. So I've

743
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 5: never held that against him, But I wonder this is

744
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: still fresh. And that's why I'm asking five years of

745
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Speaker 5: Trey four Pro Bowls. But years from now, is you're

746
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 5: sitting on a porch, you will say of Trey Hendrickson,

747
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: what let's go to the phones. That's two topics on

748
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 5: the board. Let's pick off one both. Let's begin in Fairfield, Andy,

749
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Speaker 5: you were on seven hundred WLW welcome.

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Speaker 15: Hey La, it's just calling about ke Brian Hayes. Yeah, thoughts,

751
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Speaker 15: So I do agree with your I think it's a

752
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 15: genius idea. Actually throw somebody in for him before down

753
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 15: two in the seventh and we got guys on first

754
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 15: and second and he's up. But what I really think,

755
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 15: you know, you mentioned his his glove and how it's

756
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 15: hard to quantify, you know, you get I'll just use

757
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 15: Chase Ferns starts the game and walks the first two

758
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 15: hitters and Key Briant gets to a ball nobody else

759
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 15: could and turns two and the innings.

760
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: Over versus two runs.

761
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 15: Scored, and any case Ferns goes six instead of four. Yes,

762
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Speaker 15: and that happens for every starter, and that's two innings

763
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Speaker 15: less per bullpen.

764
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll take.

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Speaker 15: Two twenty and five home runs if you're keeping the

766
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Speaker 15: starters in and you're stopping the other team's rallies. What

767
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 15: we can't have, though, is when he comes up, he's

768
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Speaker 15: hitting into double plays and ending rallies or striking out

769
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Speaker 15: with a guy on third and one out. So it

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Speaker 15: depends how his outs are made a little bit to

771
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Speaker 15: my mind as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 5: No, Andy, that's a great point because I think we're

774
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 5: so used to being able to quantify and see somebody

775
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 5: and say what they're doing well or poorly offensively. There's

776
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 5: the occasional flash play defensively, but we just don't have

777
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: the frame of reference I think for offense of the value.

778
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 5: And you brought up a great point about keeping a

779
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: pitcher in the game, and there can be a backhand

780
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: play into foul territory and a throw to first that

781
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 5: starts the inning with an out instead of a base hit,

782
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: and there is tremendous value to something like that.

783
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

784
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Speaker 15: And the one other thought about has him is what

785
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Speaker 15: pressure on the left side of the endfield does he

786
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Speaker 15: take off of Lli Della Cruz.

787
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Speaker 2: That's a really good point that is, ally can.

788
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Speaker 15: Hit and just be better defensively, unless you want to

789
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 15: put Key Briant short and Ellie and center. And I'll

790
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 15: just send your back to Saint Elizabeth anyway, That's all

791
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Speaker 15: I got.

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Speaker 5: I'll let you go, Andy, thank you. That's all I

793
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Speaker 5: need is sure. And he opens up the can of

794
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 5: worms and then he scatters as the worms go all

795
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Speaker 5: over the place A little bit more on this Entrey

796
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Speaker 5: fifth third coming up at eight just after the news

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Speaker 5: here bottom of the hour, NBC is doing something tonight with.

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Speaker 2: An NBA broadcast. I hang on, I know NBA is that.

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Speaker 5: I've got a topic related to that, but not related

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809
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Speaker 5: really really cool, and I think there's a topic there

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Speaker 5: I'll set up as we approach the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 5: But let's go back to the phones and Mount Aurum.

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Speaker 5: Hey Jeff you are on seven hundred WLW.

813
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 3: Hey, Lance, how you doing the cdser.

814
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: I'm well, thanks for calling. What's on your mind?

815
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: Good deal?

816
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Speaker 17: So I've got a comment on each topic please, Yes,

817
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 17: So the key Brian Hayes situation, If Matt McLean decides

818
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 17: he's going to hit like he did yesterday, I think

819
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 17: we're okay. And also I think you got him in

820
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 17: the eighth hole instead as a nine hole.

821
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Speaker 3: I've always been a big proponent of.

822
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Speaker 8: Having like a second leadoff hitter down there. And then

823
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 8: on the Trey hendricks Trey Hendrickson situation, not only did

824
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 8: he not have help opposite him or Lance, but did

825
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 8: we were we not near the bottom in the blitzing

826
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 8: percentages as well?

827
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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 17: Yes, So that just shows you how impactful he was

829
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Speaker 17: coming around that edge.

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Speaker 5: It's really incredible. I would love to see a breakdown.

831
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Speaker 5: I'm sure some site does it, but I just love

832
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: to see the breakdown of his performance versus what the

833
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: defense got on the other side, compared to the other

834
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 5: past great pass rushers, compared to the help they got,

835
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Speaker 5: because it would be my sense that Trey did more

836
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Speaker 5: with less than anybody else over the last five years.

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Speaker 2: From that standpoint, oh, I.

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Speaker 3: Agree, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: And then when, of course, when Low was here, he

840
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 8: was very well known for not buzing yep, and then

841
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 8: last year I'd like to see more I felt like

842
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 8: in the latter part of the year, Al Goden brought

843
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 8: more He yes, let you know, at the last five

844
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 8: or six games, and that have been really fun to

845
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 8: watch Trey coming around the edge against when we're bringing

846
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Speaker 8: butzeing up the middle.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt. Hey, those are great points. I

848
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: appreciate you listening and contributing. Have a great night. I

849
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: want to go back to his point on the offense

850
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Speaker 5: because I think you can make the case it was

851
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Speaker 5: one thing for him to hit five home runs last

852
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: year in this offense the way it was the twenty

853
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: twenty five Reds offense should be better.

854
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: Lord help us if it's not. But it's added a

855
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Speaker 2: U and Wo Suarez.

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Speaker 5: I think it's reasonable to think that Ellie's going to

857
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Speaker 5: be better healthy. I think it's reasonable to think Spencer

858
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 5: Steer is going to be healthy, better, better healthy. I

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00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 5: think Matt McClain, the way he's trending small sample size

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Speaker 5: is encouraging to me. So in a roundabout way, I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: if the offense is elevated, it does make it easier

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Speaker 5: whatever that level of production is from Haes, it makes

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Speaker 5: it easier to carry that along with what you're getting

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Speaker 5: defensively from him, if the rest of your lineup can

865
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Speaker 5: pick up more slack than it was doing a year ago,

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Speaker 5: If that makes sense, Montgomery we go Hello, Mark.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good evening.

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Speaker 7: How do you.

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Speaker 2: I'm well, what's on your mind?

870
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 3: Well, a couple on both topics.

871
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 12: You know, the Henderson thing, I agree, no doubt, best

872
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 12: free agent the Bengals have ever signed. I don't think

873
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 12: it's close. I remember when they signed him, there were

874
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 12: some questions about it and he answered.

875
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: All of those.

876
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 7: Truly a terrific.

877
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 12: Player for them. You know, my head team with him

878
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 12: though and all these other guys, is that you know,

879
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 12: this business of want in your contract, renegotiated though and

880
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 12: whining for money when you still got.

881
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: A year or two left.

882
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 12: I mean, either you're gonna have a collective bargaining agreement

883
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 12: that everybody's gonna live with the rules, or you're gonna

884
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 12: have some outliers that are constantly with you, maybe be

885
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 12: making changes, renegotiating before the contract is up, then forcing

886
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 12: everybody else to do it. And I you know that

887
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 12: that really gets under my skin. The the other thing

888
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 12: on the Brian Hayes thing, and I think I would

889
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 12: go right along with your last caller. I think you

890
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 12: can live with that, depending on what happens and what

891
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 12: offensive you get from the rest of the other infield.

892
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 12: I mean, if you get thirty home runs from your

893
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 12: short stop and twenty five or thirty from your second

894
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 12: basement and then whatever South Store gives you, I think

895
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 12: you can live with Brian Hayes.

896
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: You know, if you.

897
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 12: Get a whole bunch of strikeouts from everybody else, then

898
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 12: it becomes much more problematic.

899
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.

900
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: And again it's I think we're just conditioned to not

901
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: fully appreciate defense, and so we assigned so much of

902
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: he's good, he's bad to offense. I think in this

903
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 5: case he just changes our perception because he is truly

904
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: a dazzling, game changing defender.

905
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 12: Well, I think the other thing is that what everybody

906
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 12: has to look at in this division, the Brewers are

907
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 12: the team in the division to beat. They have been

908
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 12: they they pitched well, and they play great defense. There

909
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 12: is not a weak link on that Brewer defense. And

910
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 12: you have to pick up the ball in this division,

911
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 12: particularly when you're playing them, and.

912
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: You have to pitch well. And I think people are.

913
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 12: You know, getting out ahead of their skis a little

914
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 12: bit here.

915
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

916
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 12: You know, the Brewers are fundamentally very good team. They

917
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 12: hit about as many home runs as the Reds did

918
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 12: last year.

919
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: I think one more.

920
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 7: The Bruers hit one more than the Reds.

921
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 12: But the Brewers were the third highest scoring offense in baseball.

922
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: What's the difference.

923
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

924
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 12: They don't strike out the Reds do, they walk, which

925
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 12: the Reds do. They play great defense, which the Reds

926
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 12: really don't. And they pitch well up and down that

927
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 12: roster from starter to bullpen. And that's how did you

928
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 12: win ninety six games. And you better be able to

929
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 12: match that or you're not gonna win.

930
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 5: Very well, said Mark. Enjoy your evening. Thanks, thank you

931
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: for checking in. When we come back. NBC is doing

932
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 5: something tonight with their NBA broadcast. It's a Throwback Tuesday.

933
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 5: They're doing the San Antonio Spurs and Philadelphia seventy six ers.

934
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 5: They have brought back Bob Costas, Doug Collins, and Mike Frittello,

935
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 5: and they are presenting the game through the graphics and

936
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 5: visuals of thirty years ago. On NBC. They're calling an

937
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 5: actual game tonight, but they're doing it in throwback style

938
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: and the conversation we had at lunch today was this,

939
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 5: We had some fun with it. If we could do

940
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 5: a throwback and you could listen to a game or

941
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: watch a game with a pairing of broadcasters from the

942
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 5: past like they're doing tonight, whether they're dead or alive,

943
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: which pairing just one more time, one more time on

944
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 5: radio or TV. Tonight, NBC is turning back the clock

945
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 5: thirty years ago, Costas Collins, Frttello. Those three never actually

946
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 5: called a game together. They were part of NBC's coverage

947
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: of the NBA. We started kicking around today. Man for

948
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 5: one night, if I could go back in the wayback

949
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: machine and get Harry Carey and Steve Stone again on

950
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 5: WGNTV with the Cubs or fill in the blank of

951
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: a pairing over the years, think about that and if

952
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 5: you feel like it, jump into the conversation. As we continue,

953
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 5: it's RNL carry or Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet

954
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 5: seven hundred WLW. Update on those Miami RedHawks trying to

955
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 5: stay perfect and get to thirty and oh they're now

956
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 5: in a dogfight at home tonight at Mallet against Toledo.

957
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 5: They led by eleven with about seven minutes to go

958
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 5: in the half. Now about five minutes later, Toledo has

959
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 5: cut the deficit to one, thirty one to thirty, Miami leading.

960
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 5: There was a moment within the last five minutes where

961
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: Luke Skaljack bent over in pain holding his wrist and

962
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: left the game, according to Mike Petralia and others at

963
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 5: the game tweeting about it. He has since checked back in.

964
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: So their point guard has been dealing with the wrist

965
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 5: issue missed Friday night's game. He again is the backup

966
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 5: point guard they lost their starter early in the season.

967
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 5: Luke Scaljack has been really good for him this year,

968
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: but did re enter the game. We're approaching the two

969
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 5: minute mark in the first half at Mallet thirty one

970
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 5: to thirty, Miami leading Toledo. We will continue to update

971
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 5: along the way. We're headed towards uce basketball here about

972
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 5: an hour from now. Xavier three minutes to go in

973
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 5: the half, two point leader over Seaton Hall twenty nine,

974
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 5: twenty seven. Updating Kentucky five twenty six to go in

975
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 5: the first half in College Station, Wildcats lead Texas A

976
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 5: and M thirty to twenty five. All right, let's set

977
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 5: the move for this next topic. Joe give me a

978
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: little bit of music, please.

979
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

980
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 5: Oh man, the floodgates open and the memories and moments

981
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 5: of the NBA on NBC come rushing math. I don't

982
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: know if you've heard what they're doing tonight, but I

983
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 5: love stuff like this. I know, I know you're probably

984
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: not going to watch the NBA tonight on NBC. Don't

985
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 5: worry about it. Just follow me for this topic. How

986
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 5: about we make that deal. NBC tonight is doing a

987
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: throwback broadcast. They're going to broadcast tonight's game between the

988
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 5: Spurs and seventy six Ers like it was thirty years

989
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 5: ago on NBC. They're gonna like the feel of the

990
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 5: broadcast is gonna be reminiscent of and familiar components, including

991
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 5: the graphics package from thirty years ago.

992
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: And they're bringing back Bob Costas.

993
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 5: Bob Costas was their play by play NBA host and

994
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 5: voice from nineteen ninety to two thousand and two. They're

995
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: bringing back Doug Collins, who was the analyst from nineteen

996
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 5: ninety eight to two thousand and one. Mike Frittello is

997
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 5: going to join them. Mike Frittello was the czar the

998
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 5: telestrater teamed up with Marv Albert for a long stretch.

999
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 5: They're even doing the pregame show with kind of the

1000
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 5: NBA Showtime version Hannah Storm, Isaiah Thomas, PJ Carlossimo, and

1001
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 5: they're presenting it tonight on NBC. Here is where our

1002
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 5: conversation went today earlier at lunch from the NBC standpoint

1003
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 5: and a throwback broadcast and bringing back broadcasters. If with

1004
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 5: your magic wand for one night, one game, TV or radio,

1005
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 5: you could bring back a broadcast pairing for your enjoyment.

1006
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: What pairing would that be? I'll claim the obvious one,

1007
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 5: Marty and Joe. Give me a warm summer night back porch,

1008
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 5: grill a cold one, the radio on. One more of

1009
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 5: Marty and Joe, the banter back and forth, the star

1010
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 5: of the game. Give me Harry Carey and Steve Stone

1011
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 5: one more time, because I loved when classes were done

1012
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 5: at Butler University. Going back to Ross Hall and turning

1013
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 5: on WGN TV and Harry and Harry and Steve together

1014
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: and Steve trying to rein in Harry or correct Harry

1015
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 5: or fix something he said. Harry struggling with the pronunciation

1016
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: of a name, Harry asking Arnie Harris to show him

1017
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: a boat out on the water, whatever it was. Give

1018
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: me Harry and Steve one more time. As a throwback

1019
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 5: broadcast pairing tied to our topic tonight.

1020
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: Give me.

1021
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 5: Give me a Saturday college basketball game of Dick Enberg,

1022
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 5: Al McGuire and Billy Packer and I think South Bend

1023
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 5: Joyce Athletic and Convocation Center, Notre Dame, UCLA on a

1024
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 5: Saturday The Digger Phelps Era in the green incarnation on

1025
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 5: his jacket. Give me those three and the way they

1026
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 5: play off of each other, oh my, and the way

1027
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 5: you know Billy Packer was kind of like a curmudgeon,

1028
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 5: and Al McGuire always had the great quip and the

1029
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 5: great line. Give me Enburg, McGuire and Packer for another

1030
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 5: broadcast pairing throwback you five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

1031
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: seven thousand, one, eight hundred The Big One. Give me

1032
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: Monday Night Football Howard Cosell, Dandy, Don Meredith and Frank

1033
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 5: Gifford Cosal's halftime highlights, Don Meredith's wrapping up the night,

1034
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: turn out the lights, the party's over. Give me one

1035
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 5: more time. George Grand and Chris Welsh, Hi, Hello, and

1036
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: welcome to Red's Baseball. George grand the single most connected

1037
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 5: person I've ever met. I've never seen somebody who knew

1038
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 5: so many people, so many people knew him. I'll give

1039
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 5: you one I never had a chance to listen to.

1040
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 5: I've heard recordings, but in a throwback broadcast, I'd take

1041
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: Wade Hoyt for one night, and you know what, for

1042
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 5: good measure, toss in a rain delay during that game.

1043
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 5: Give me Wade Hoyt REDS Radio with the rain delay.

1044
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: Give me and I'm flashing to the superstation TBS Turner

1045
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 5: Broadcasting System. Give me skip carry, Ernie Johnson, Pete Van

1046
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 5: Weren and was it John Sterling? I think it was

1047
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 5: John Sterling as part of the Atlanta Braves broadcast team

1048
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 5: in the eighties on TBS Dale Murphy and Claude L.

1049
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 5: Washington and Ken Oberkfell and Mith, Poke Roba and how

1050
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 5: many more can I name without Jerry Royster, Mark Lemkey,

1051
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 5: Glenn Hubbard, Bruce Souter, Rick Camp. I was on a

1052
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 5: roll Sane Smith. Okay, that's all I have. Give me

1053
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 5: one of those broadcast one more time. Oh, I don't

1054
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 5: know who I'd pair him with. Give me vintage Dick

1055
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 5: VII tale on an ESPN Saturday college basketball game. I

1056
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 5: mean vintage Dick Vitale years ago. I don't even know who.

1057
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 5: I don't even care who the play by play guy

1058
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 5: would be. Give me Dick Vitale in his heyday. I'll

1059
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 5: give you another one.

1060
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: Underrated.

1061
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 5: And I know it bugs some because Joe Morgan wasn't

1062
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 5: the most like analytically inclined and was slow to adapt

1063
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 5: from that standpoint of broadcasting. But you talk about a fun,

1064
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 5: easy listen ESPN Sunday Night Baseball with John Miller and

1065
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 5: Joe Morgan. If we're doing a throwback broadcast, give me

1066
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 5: a pairing throughout the course of sports broadcasting history. One

1067
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 5: more time, give me a Saturday Night with John Miller

1068
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: and Joe Morgan. You at five, one, three, seven, four nine,

1069
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 5: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the Big One. Your calls

1070
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: are next. It's our nail Carrier, Sports Talk presented by

1071
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 5: Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

1072
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: All Right, they've reached.

1073
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 5: Halftime in Oxford, Mallet Hall, Miami forty Toledo thirty five, Miami,

1074
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 5: twenty minutes away from moving to thirty and oh for

1075
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 5: the season. Meanwhile, the Xavier Musketeers trail at the half

1076
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: thirty three thirty two to Seaton Hall, and let me

1077
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 5: round out that update with the Kentucky Wildcats now trailing

1078
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: by ten a late first half surge by Texas A

1079
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 5: and M to lead by ten forty two thirty two. Okay,

1080
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 5: I've got a quick story. Just allow me ninety seconds

1081
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 5: for this. Because I'm an admitted dork slash obsessed individual

1082
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 5: when it comes to the TV show twenty four Jack Bauer,

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Speaker 5: Keifer Sutherland. If you've listened to my show, you know

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Speaker 5: the open and each hour is from twenty four, one

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Speaker 5: of the greatest TV shows and concepts of all time. Well,

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Speaker 5: if you ever doubted that I have the best listeners,

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Speaker 5: the most loyal listeners, and the kindest of listeners, how

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Speaker 5: about this story. Got a package in the mail yesterday,

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Speaker 5: got home, opened it up, and it's from a listener.

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Speaker 5: I hope his name is Greg. I don't think he'll

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Speaker 5: mind me. Greg Taylor is his name, and he wrote

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Speaker 5: in a note lance, I'm somewhat involved through one of

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Speaker 5: my closest friends in the Buddy Holly Educational Foundation, says

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Speaker 5: my palace on the board. And Keifer Sutherland is an

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Speaker 5: ambassador for the foundation, and he held a public book

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Speaker 5: signing and private after party back in the fall in

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Speaker 5: Greenwich Village. And it's the Buddy Holly Words of Love book.

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Speaker 5: It's four hundred pages photos. It's the celebration of Buddy Holly, photos,

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Speaker 5: personal letters, handwritten notes, just amazing pictures. And Greg sent

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Speaker 5: me the book hard back, like four hundred pages. Weighs

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Speaker 5: like twenty pounds, it seems. And in the note, Greg said,

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Speaker 5: Keefer is an incredibly nice guy. He hung out the

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Speaker 5: entire night in our larger group in the back room

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Speaker 5: of a bar in Manhattan. I told him about you,

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Speaker 5: your show and you borrowing from the TV show twenty

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Speaker 5: four for your show open and top of the hour intros.

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Speaker 2: He loved it.

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Speaker 5: I had him sign this book for you, just an

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Speaker 5: out of the blue gesture.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the book. Greg.

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Speaker 5: You open the book and the first page is Lance

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Speaker 5: all my best Keifer Sutherland. Absolutely one of the coolest

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Speaker 5: things I have ever received. Twenty four is in the

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Speaker 5: handful of my favorite shows of all time. It is

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Speaker 5: the most unique format for a TV show of all time.

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01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 5: And Jack Bauer that role, that is my favorite TV

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Speaker 5: character of all time.

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Speaker 2: Give me this schematics. We're running out of time. Chloe.

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Speaker 5: The fact that Greg thought that much and took that

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Speaker 5: step and then mailed me the book, which the price

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Speaker 5: for mailing that heavy thing had to be an arm

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Speaker 5: and a leg. And the fact that he thought in

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Speaker 5: that moment to tell Keifer about the show and had

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Speaker 5: him sign the book is just one of the absolute

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Speaker 5: coolest things ever.

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Speaker 2: So Greg, thank you.

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Speaker 5: And that's got a spot on my off his bookshelf,

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Speaker 5: and I will cherish that forever.

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Speaker 2: Love that, all right.

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Speaker 5: Our topic, just to close out the hour, NBC in

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Speaker 5: a matter of minutes is doing a throwback broadcast. They're

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Speaker 5: gonna present tonight's game between San Antonio and Philadelphia, the

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Speaker 5: Spurs and seventy six ers like it was thirty years ago.

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Speaker 5: The graphics, the packaging, the presentation is gonna look like

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Speaker 5: the nineteen ninety five ninety six season of the NBA

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Speaker 5: on NBC, and they're bringing back Bob Costas and Doug

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Speaker 5: Collins and Mike Frittello for the game. Jim Gray is

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Speaker 5: gonna be on the sideline like.

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Speaker 2: He was back then.

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Speaker 5: We started thinking today at lunch man, if you could

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Speaker 5: do a broadcast, a throwback broadcast pairing in the history

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Speaker 5: of sports, just one more time, get the band back together.

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Speaker 5: You know what hit me during the break by the

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Speaker 5: way Dan Horne and Chuck Mayshock. Can you imagine one

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Speaker 5: more night, just one more night of Dan and Chuck

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Speaker 5: and Chuck being disgraddled with the officiating and maybe just

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Speaker 5: for this old time sake, getting ejected from that broadcast.

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Speaker 5: That would be the perfect tapper to a throwback pairing

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Speaker 5: of broadcasters. Let's go to Dell High. Hey, Bob, you

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Speaker 5: were on seven hundred WLW, Hey Bob.

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Speaker 2: Jack Buck, Yes, Jack Buck.

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Speaker 7: And Hank Stram on the radio on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, those voices, Holy.

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Speaker 10: Cow, Monday Monday.

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Speaker 3: Football was big, probably twenty years ago.

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Speaker 5: Those voices in that time iconic. What a pairing. Absolutely,

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Speaker 5: I'm putting that one on the list. Bob, Thank you

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Speaker 5: for listening, Thank you for taking the time to call in.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh.

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Speaker 5: Drew Western Heidi offering up Bill Walton, Bill Walton with

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Speaker 5: anybody at this point and I'm looking at the pairing

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Speaker 5: in this photo and then, for the life of me,

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Speaker 5: I cannot think of the name of the guy that

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Speaker 5: Bill Walton is with. It will come to me, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: give me that pairing. Scrolling through Twitter, a lot of

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Speaker 5: Marty and Joe's. Here's a Harry and Steve. Here's a

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Speaker 5: Don Meredith, Howard Cosell and Frank Gifford Madden in summer

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Speaker 5: all Vin Scully and Tony Kubeck on a Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 5: on NBC. Absolutely another Vin Scully and Joe Garrett Giola.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely well done. I like all of these. Let me

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Speaker 5: scroll through here.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Marlowe and John Leskalski. I you basketball in the

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Speaker 2: eighties with the.

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Speaker 5: General Absolutely and just for the fun of it, we

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Speaker 5: would toss in a Bob Knight Coaches Show. Would not

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Speaker 5: get any better than that. Man, this was well done.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for those who tweeted these Atlance McAllister on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: I don't have time to get to all of these,

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Speaker 5: but I like those. I would add Brent Musburger, you

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Speaker 5: are looking live. I don't even care who you put

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Speaker 5: with Brent Musburger for that game. Oh that you could

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Speaker 5: do NBA Brent Musburger with like hot Rod Hunley or

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Speaker 5: Bill Russell. Give me Keith Jackson on a college football

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Speaker 5: Saturday game. Give me Don Krickey and Bob Trumpy NFL

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Speaker 5: Sunday give me Dick Enberg and Merlin Olsen NFL Sunday.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I'll toss it to hockey with Mike

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Speaker 5: Emrick and Bill Clement. That was well done, Very well done,

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Speaker 5: Joe Buck and Tim McCarver being offered up. Ian agrees.

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Speaker 5: I miss John Miller and Joe Morgan on Sunday night,

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Speaker 5: he says Andy Mack on the Xavier Musketeer call.

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Speaker 2: Yes, fantastic one.

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Speaker 5: Ooh, how about a classic Phil Samp Phil Samp call

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Speaker 5: of Bengals football with maybe a Dennis Jansen by his

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Speaker 5: side on the call? Now, no, wait, let's not get crazy.

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Speaker 5: Aaron says Lance McAllister and Bob Trumpy. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if my pacemaker could handle that, because pacemaker was post Trumpie.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine me with a Pacemaker with Trumpy back

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Speaker 5: in the day. Oh my goodness, I like that, Andy Mack, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: all right, let's uh that's a wrap on the seven

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Speaker 5: o'clock hour. Up next, we go live to fifth third.

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Speaker 5: Chad Brendle checks in, sets the scene for UC and

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01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 5: BYU and what's at stake and what you should know

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 5: about the matchup, and we'll check the scoreboard as well.

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Speaker 5: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's keep it rolling. We gotta hustle. Dan

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Speaker 5: and Terry coming up. Bottom of they are coverage of

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Speaker 5: the Bearcats who play here tonight. Of course, seven hundred

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Speaker 5: WLW Bearcats hosting b YU tonight Senior Night. Let's talk

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Speaker 5: some Bearcats with the man who is Bearcat Journal dot com.

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Speaker 2: That would be Chad Frendall. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 13: I running around, had to pick a daughter up from

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Speaker 13: volleyball race to fifth third Arena. Just got here, so

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Speaker 13: we're in good time.

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Speaker 3: We're ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. Perfect for a scene setter.

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Speaker 5: Why what is the what is the number one factor

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 5: on your list? To explain how this team has won

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Speaker 5: five of its last six.

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Speaker 13: They finally have what they have been missing for three

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Speaker 13: years in the.

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Speaker 3: Big twelve, and that is two guys.

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Speaker 13: Playing at an all conference level in Baba and Mustapha Chom.

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Speaker 13: And they're having to do it differently to keep those

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Speaker 13: guys as effective as they have been. They're running a

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Speaker 13: lot of offense through Baba, but those two guys stepping

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Speaker 13: up and playing at an incredibly high level has raised

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Speaker 13: this team ceiling. The other thing that I think has

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Speaker 13: been really critical is inserting Jalen Celestine into the starting

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Speaker 13: lineup after he fully got recovered. He had back surgery

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Speaker 13: in the offseason. I don't think a lot of people

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Speaker 13: know that, and it took him a while to get

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 13: back to one hundred percent. But since he's been back

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 13: playing at a high level, he's got the highest offensive

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 13: rating on the team. He's the guy that can open

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Speaker 13: the defense, stretch the defense, allow room for Miller and

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Speaker 13: Chom to operate in the paint. And they've just gone

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Speaker 13: from they were dreadful on offense, just absolutely dreadful for November, December,

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Speaker 13: and most of January. And then you get into February

1241
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Speaker 13: and those couple guys have played at a high level

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 13: and it's completely changed who this team's you know, identity is.

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Speaker 2: It is a senior night.

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Speaker 5: I always enjoyed drawing on your perspective and as much

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 5: as you are around these guys, I wonder articulate the

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01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 5: importance and what you will remember about day D. A.

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: Thomas and his time as a.

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 13: Bearcat, how hard he's worked, how much he's improved. How

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 13: much better of a player he's become, How much better

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 13: of a leader he's become.

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he was one of those.

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Speaker 13: Kids that got caught up in COVID and didn't really

1253
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 13: get a chance to be seen as a recruit, ended

1254
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 13: up at junior college, worked as butt off at junior college,

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01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 13: got an opportunity here, and has just consistently gotten better.

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Speaker 13: You know, he's not, you know, an all big twelve

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 13: type guard, but he's a Bearcat.

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Speaker 3: Like if you look back.

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Speaker 13: At the definition of guys that you consider the heart

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Speaker 13: and soul of UC's program.

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Speaker 3: He's got that toughness, that work ethic, you know, the.

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Speaker 13: Ability to produce maybe better than you thought he was

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01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 13: going to when he came in. And I mean, we're

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 13: not going to see this very often. Lance, He's played

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01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 13: one hundred games as a Cincinnati Bearcat, He's scored a

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 13: thousand points. Like it's it's just not something you're going

1267
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 13: to see much anymore going forward. So you know, he's

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Speaker 13: got a special place for me.

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Speaker 5: Last check you see is a point and a half

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01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 5: favored against his BYU team. Tell listeners who might not

1271
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 5: know what they need to know about BYU.

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Speaker 13: First you got to know aj Debansa. He's outstanding and

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 13: he's going to be a top three pick in the

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Speaker 13: NBA draft. He's six', nine he plays like a. Guard

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 13: he can shoot, it he can handle, it he can

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01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 13: get to the. Rim HE'S i think over the last

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Speaker 13: six he's averaging twenty nine points a. Game he's and

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,520
Speaker 13: he can, rebound he can. HALF i think the passing

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,839
Speaker 13: is kind of the what's Up Big Veella Well Dante

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 13: corleon siding here Outside Sister. Arena the passing has been

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01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 13: the Difference lance in their last five, games he's been incredible.

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Speaker 13: Scoring LIKE i, said he's up around thirty points a

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 13: game in their wins and the two wins in their

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 13: last five, games he's had seventeen assists and the three

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Speaker 13: losses he's had. Three so you can let him be a.

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 13: Scorer they're going to go to, him high, volume heavy.

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 13: Volume he's gonna get. Points but if you can keep

1288
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 13: him from, FACILITATING i think you have a chance to

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 13: slow them. Down the other name to watch Is Rob.

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 13: Wright cincinnati played him At baylor a couple times last.

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 13: Year he struggled Against cincinnati's. Defense he struggled Against Dade

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Speaker 13: thomas And Gisel. James SO i think that's he's kind

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Speaker 13: of the.

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Speaker 3: Key if he gives.

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 13: Them a second, scorer they're they're a team that can

1296
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 13: put up enough points to beat. You he's gonna get

1297
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 13: probably twenty. Points the key is does he do it

1298
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 13: in eleven? Shots does he do it in twenty two?

1299
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 13: Shots and if you can frustrate him and make him

1300
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 13: take some bad, shots you can really bog.

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: Down THIS byu. Offense so those are the two main.

1302
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 13: Guys they're third, Guy Richie, saunders who was first Team

1303
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 13: All Big twelve last, year blew out his knee two weeks,

1304
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 13: ago and they're they're not the same team without Having,

1305
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 13: saunders who could shoot from, three take it to the

1306
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 13: rim and gave them that third weapon, offensively they're not

1307
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 13: the same team offensively without.

1308
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: HIM i know you.

1309
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 5: Are not a, bracketologist nor do you play on on the,

1310
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 5: Radio but can you create a path short of winning

1311
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 5: The Big twelve that gets them inside the bubble and

1312
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 5: into the?

1313
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 13: TOURNAMENT i think if you win two to close the,

1314
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 13: season you win this, one you win AT, tcu and

1315
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 13: then you win your first round game in The Big twelve,

1316
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 13: tournament which would likely be a rematch WITH tcu or

1317
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 13: Maybe West, virginia depending on how the season plays.

1318
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: OUT i think you're right at the cut. Line.

1319
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 13: Now it's impossible to predict because you don't know what

1320
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,480
Speaker 13: the other teams around.

1321
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 3: Them are going to. Do and let's be, honest they've.

1322
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 13: Made it very tough on themselves because they're they've got

1323
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 13: to jump six seven teams really to be able to get.

1324
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 13: In now they've got two point one. Opportunities so if

1325
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 13: they win, both you're increasing your. Metrics you're increasing the

1326
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 13: new terminology this year lance the new metrics wins above.

1327
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 13: Bubble you're increasing your wins above. Bubble so there's a

1328
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 13: path if they wanted to really kind of leave no

1329
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 13: doubt you win in the. Quarterfinals but they're probably trending

1330
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 13: for the eight or nine. Seed if you're the eighth

1331
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 13: seed or the ninth. Seed you know who's gonna be

1332
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 13: waiting in the in the quarterfinals of The big twelve

1333
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 13: tournament That, Arizona And i'm gonna be, HONEST i think

1334
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 13: they could play one hundred.

1335
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: Times what would you see win? Three?

1336
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 13: Like that team is just so fundamentally sound LIKE i

1337
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 13: JUST i have a hard time seeing them knock off In. Arizona,

1338
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 13: now if you do, that, though you win four in

1339
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 13: a row and you're in The Big twelve semi, FINALS

1340
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 13: i don't know how they would keep your. Out you're

1341
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 13: ten and eight in the, conference you're in the semi,

1342
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 13: finals you'd beat the number one seed like that would

1343
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 13: be really.

1344
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 5: HARD i believe The Big twelve awards should be announced Probably.

1345
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 5: Monday any early thought on what Bear cat may wind

1346
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 5: up in what?

1347
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 13: CATEGORY i think you'll See Boba miller on one of

1348
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 13: The All conference, teams probably not first, team but he's

1349
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 13: been so good so consistently throughout the season that it

1350
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 13: just makes sense.

1351
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 3: That you would see him on one of those.

1352
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 13: Teams Mustapha chom has played at that level for the last,

1353
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 13: month but he didn't do it consistently enough at the

1354
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 13: beginning of the. Season so maybe you see like an

1355
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 13: honorable mention for. HIM i don't know that you know.

1356
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 13: They Buck harris was first Team All defense last. YEAR

1357
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 13: i don't think he's played enough this year to get

1358
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 13: that award unless he gets it on. Reputation BUT i

1359
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 13: do think there's a really good, chance maybe second or

1360
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 13: third team For Boba miller because he's he's been that

1361
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 13: good all. YEAR i, mean you, know Before Tray, scott

1362
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 13: it had been the seventies since somebody had averaged double

1363
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 13: digit rebounds At. Cincinnati, Bob i's going to do it this,

1364
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 13: year and probably pretty easily unless something drastic. Happens BUT

1365
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 13: i think you'll see him on an all conference.

1366
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 5: Team You, keegan the crew will be all over this

1367
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 5: spring footballs just around the corner and. Layout how about

1368
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 5: that lay out everything being offered by and can be

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Speaker 13: Com we'll be following all the way up to Selection

1371
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 13: sunday to see if this team has a chance and

1372
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 13: if they don't make a. Tournament if they don't make the,

1373
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 13: tournament what happens With Les. MILLER i, mean that's the

1374
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 13: million dollar question right. Now if he makes it, in

1375
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 13: he's definitely. SAFE i would. Say if he doesn't make it,

1376
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 13: In john cunning is Getting John cunningham is gonna have

1377
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 13: a tough. Decision so we're going to be all over.

1378
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 13: That we will be all over every spring football practice

1379
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 13: and much much. More, plus let's not Forget Jordan bishell's baseball.

1380
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 13: Team big win Over Western kentucky today and they're going

1381
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 13: to be a lot of fun to follow this spring as, well.

1382
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 5: No doubt about. It you are the MAN i, know

1383
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 5: uh crazy. EVENING i appreciate you carving out some time

1384
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 5: and appreciate the conversation.

1385
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 3: Anytime.

1386
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 2: LANs thank, you, Sir thank You.

1387
01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 5: Chad, Brendle Bearcat journal dot, Com, bearcats and by. You

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Speaker 5: coming up bottom of the hour With dan And, terry

1389
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Speaker 5: we need to head down the. Stretch take a look

1390
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 5: at some things that happen on this date in sports,

1391
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 5: history twenty three days To red's opening. Day you better

1392
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 5: Believe i've got some number twenty threes to get two and,

1393
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 5: more And i'll update you on the college basketball. Scoreboard

1394
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Speaker 5: Everybody they're the. Best twenty three days The Reds Opening.

1418
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 5: Day twenty three days The Reds Opening. Day Nick martini

1419
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 5: was number twenty. Three will forever be remembered In Red's.

1420
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 5: Law is the man who hit two home runs on Opening?

1421
01:20:55,400 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 5: Day twenty twenty. Four Cody reid war twenty, three the

1422
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 5: failed trade Of Johnny cuato For Cody, Reid Brandon finnigan

1423
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 5: And john Lamb.

1424
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: Ugh you, KNOW i don't.

1425
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 5: Know WHY i did, this BUT i AS i was

1426
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 5: putting these notes, TOGETHER i, SAID i wonder what combined

1427
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 5: performance did The reds get out Of Cody, Reid Brandon

1428
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 5: finnigan And john lamb As red's. PITCHERS i should not

1429
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 5: have added it. Up they went seventeen and forty one

1430
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 5: with a five h nine earned run. Average Adam duvall

1431
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 5: was number twenty three In All star back to back

1432
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 5: thirty home run. Seasons how Many reds in the last

1433
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 5: twenty five thirty years have had back to back thirty

1434
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 5: home run. Seasons Donald lutz wore number twenty Three Yonder

1435
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 5: alonso part of The Matt lato's. Trade Jason LaRue career

1436
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 5: ended by a kick to the head By Johnny cuato

1437
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 5: in That Saint Louis cardinals.

1438
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: Brawl Hal, morris who.

1439
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 5: Once had a thirty two game hitting streak extend from

1440
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 5: one season into the. Next and great trivia question About

1441
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 5: Hal morris his three nineteen lifetime batting average At Riverfront,

1442
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 5: stadium the highest batting average for a career of any

1443
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 5: player in the history Of Riverfront. Stadium Greg vaughn wore

1444
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 5: number twenty.

1445
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: Three what a.

1446
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety nine, season his only season in A reds.

1447
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 5: Uniform he Had Rick aerbach war number twenty. Three he

1448
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 5: was a utility. Infielder Doug flynn the glue number twenty,

1449
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 5: three And Lee may the Big bopper nineteen sixty, eight sixty, nine.

1450
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 5: Seventy Lee may hit thirty eight, homers thirty four homers

1451
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 5: and thirty nine homers all wore the number twenty, three

1452
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 5: representing twenty three days To red's Opening. Day, Reminder i'm

1453
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 5: On twitter At Lance, pacallister thank you so much for

1454
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 5: the contributions tonight on our throwback broad cast. Pairings that

1455
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 5: was very well done AND i very much appreciate your

1456
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 5: input by that part of the. Show and we wrap

1457
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 5: it up with things that happen on this date in sports.

1458
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 5: History this is a wild. One we're going back to

1459
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 5: nineteen oh. Four red's Outfielder Mike donlin intervenes in an

1460
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 5: argument between two men at The Majestic hotel In Hot, Springs,

1461
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 5: arkansas where The reds were holding spring, training wrestling a

1462
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 5: gun away from one of the. Individuals Mike Donlan red's

1463
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 5: outfielder this. Date in nineteen eighty, Three Steve carlton agrees

1464
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 5: to a four, year four point one five.

1465
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: Million dollar deal with The Philadelphia.

1466
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 5: Phillies it makes him the highest paid pitcher In Major

1467
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 5: League baseball history four, years four point one. Million nineteen eighty,

1468
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 5: Four Peter ruberov Elected baseball's, commissioner Replacing Buie. Kun nineteen eighty,

1469
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 5: Five Willie schumaker becomes the first jockey to win one

1470
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars in THE. Us kevin mchaleis date in

1471
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty, five The Boston celtics scores a team high

1472
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 5: fifty six, points making twenty two of twenty eight shots

1473
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 5: in a win over The. Pistons the current record is,

1474
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 5: sixty held By Larry bird And Jason. Tatum nineteen eighty,

1475
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 5: Seven Iron Mike tyson adds THE Wba heavyweight crown to

1476
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 5: HIS Wbc heavyweight title with a unanimous twelve round decision

1477
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 5: Over James Bone Crusher smith In Las. Vegas the amazing

1478
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 5: thing about that, IS i really don't Recall Mike tyson

1479
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 5: going that deep into. Fights how many times Did Mike

1480
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 5: tyson go twelve?

1481
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 2: Rounds with? It how?

1482
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 5: Long how many times did anybody last twelve rounds With

1483
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 5: Mike Tyson nate or two thousand and eight Eight bengals

1484
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 5: note on this, date speaking of free agency And Trey,

1485
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 5: hendrickson The bengals made Antwan odum the richest free agent

1486
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 5: In bengals history five, years thirty, million eleven million. Guaranteed

1487
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 5: Ntwan odom had a five sack game Of Aaron rodgers

1488
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 5: in two thousand and, nine but played just twenty two

1489
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 5: games due to. Injury IF i remember, correctly he blew

1490
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 5: out his achilles.

1491
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: Twenty.

1492
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 5: Fifteen on this state number, One kentucky overcomes a nine

1493
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 5: point deficit in the second.

1494
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Half they keep a perfect season.

1495
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 5: Alive they moved to thirty to, zero Beating georgia seventy

1496
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 5: two sixty, four and a perfect segue to the final

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01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 5: minute of the. Show let's check the. Scoreboard seven seven

1498
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 5: minutes to go In oxford from Malt miami Sixty toledo fifty.

1499
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 5: Five it's a five point lead and The RedHawks are

1500
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 5: seven minutes from going to thirty and oh setting up

1501
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 5: A friday night showdown In athens against The Ohio.

1502
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: Bobcats what else CAN i? Give you quickly on the.

1503
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 5: Scoreboard eleven minutes to go in the, Game xavier Leading

1504
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 5: Seaton hall sixty fifty Eight musketeers with a win get

1505
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 5: to the five hundred mark overall in the. Season and holy, Cow,

1506
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 5: KENTUCKY i gave you a at one point with seven

1507
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 5: minutes to go in the. Half kentucky had a. Lead

1508
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 5: now with thirteen minutes to go in the, Game kentucky

1509
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 5: trails by eighteen sixty two forty. Four holy, cow what?

1510
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Happened all?

1511
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 5: RIGHT i gotta get out of. Here that's what's gonna happen.

1512
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 5: Now thanks To joe what l for Producing tomorrow. Night

1513
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 5: let's see reds versus The cuban national team tomorrow, afternoon

1514
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 5: Then Red's Hot, stove and then you and me seven.

1515
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 2: To nine o'clock tomorrow. NIGHT i can't.

1516
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,799
Speaker 5: Wait thanks for making me part of your evening tonight

1517
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 5: and CATCHING Rnl Carrier Sports talk presented By Kelsey. Chevrolet

1518
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 5: let's Check, news then The bearcat seven HUNDRED wlw