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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Boy Time Flies. That was a quick hour on night Side.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can listen to night Side anytime you

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Speaker 2: day on the I kind of like the MPTA because

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Speaker 2: life happens on the MBTA. It's good for tacos to

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Speaker 2: be out and about and experiencing life. It's better than

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Speaker 2: being cooped up in a car by yourself. Stuff happens,

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Speaker 2: and I one thing happened to me today. I ran

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Speaker 2: into some two women on the on the train and

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Speaker 2: ended up talking to one of them for like fifteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty minutes about Church of Latter Day Scene and

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Speaker 2: they were missionaries. I'm going to tell you all about

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Speaker 2: how that went and what I learned later on. But

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Speaker 2: also while I was on the MBTA, I saw one

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Speaker 2: of those commercials, those advertisements up there you see many

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Speaker 2: of for Bridge Over Troubled Waters, and it struck me, wow,

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Speaker 2: that's a familiar organization because I remember seeing this big

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Speaker 2: van the Park Street station a lot a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: It was a big healthcare van. I realized I had

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Speaker 2: never had these folks on as a guest ever, and

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Speaker 2: it'd be good to find out about them. They offer

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Speaker 2: service that might be helpful for you, or maybe you

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Speaker 2: want to get involved, or maybe you want to donate whatever.

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Speaker 2: I want to find out. I want us all to

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Speaker 2: find out more about Bridge Over Troubled Water. So we

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Speaker 2: have I think it's the boss. A boss Elizabeth Jackson

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Speaker 2: from Bridge Over Trouble Water. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having.

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Speaker 2: Me of course, so tell me about the organization and

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Speaker 2: then we'll get into these things. We'll get into the

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Speaker 2: specific programs that you have.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Bridge Over Trouble Waters is a multi service youth agency

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Speaker 3: that works mostly with young people ages fourteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: four that are homeless, at risk, runaway, young people that

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Speaker 3: need stabilization. And I always say we're the University of

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Speaker 3: Life skills for kids for young adults because we have

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Speaker 3: everything from housing, education, dental, we have all counseling, behavioral

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Speaker 3: health counseling. We have all types of services to help

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Speaker 3: young people really find a path back.

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Speaker 2: And who tends to take advantage of your service is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it people that run away from home or people

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Speaker 2: that just don't have a great.

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Speaker 4: Home or what.

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Speaker 3: Eight percent I think is of the young people that

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Speaker 3: we service are under the age of twenty one, and

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Speaker 3: they all come with different concerns. Either they have left home,

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Speaker 3: they ran away from home, or they left the system.

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Speaker 3: When I see the system, I'm talking about DMH, DPH, DDS, DCF,

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Speaker 3: so any other departments. And they are eighteen now, so

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Speaker 3: they feel they're an adult and they want to try

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Speaker 3: it on their own, so that can be one reason

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Speaker 3: they're leaving. Forty percent of the young people we have

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Speaker 3: come from a system. The rest are literally our family

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Speaker 3: concerns that happen at home, or any drugs concerns, or

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Speaker 3: it's not a safe place, or young people feeling, you know,

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Speaker 3: they're eighteen, they're feeling that they don't want to follow

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Speaker 3: the rules anymore. And we have a handful of those

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Speaker 3: two that is better to be out and then they

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Speaker 3: realize that they burned no contended a bridge, so they

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Speaker 3: really come from all walks of life and all really

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Speaker 2: What do you mean didn't want to follow the rules

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Speaker 2: anymore and burn the bridge? They said to their family,

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Speaker 2: I'm never going back or are they committed a crime

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Speaker 2: or what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, man, do you have any young adults? Did you

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Speaker 3: have any young adults?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have a nineteen and a twenty one

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Speaker 3: year old, right, So they get into that space and

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Speaker 3: they don't want to follow what you know, parents. They

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Speaker 3: So that communication, it is really hard at home. Once

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Speaker 3: need the parents support the rules everywhere, and there's consequences

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Speaker 3: everywhere of your action. But we get a good percentage

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Speaker 3: of you know, we do a lot of family reunification

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Speaker 3: We talk about, you know, young adults days, I'm seventeen

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Speaker 2: They leave home, they think, oh, I'll get a room, mad,

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Speaker 2: I'll hang out, but that doesn't work out. They find

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Speaker 2: themselves on the street, walking around a lot and maybe

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Speaker 2: one night, oh I don't have a place. I gotta

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Speaker 2: I have to sleep in the doorway tonight. And then

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Speaker 2: gradually things devolve and then they hopefully at that point

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Speaker 2: find you tell me about this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they do couch surfing, so they just stat's couch surfing.

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Speaker 3: They stay at a front house. So if you have

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Speaker 3: I would say to parents, if you have teenagers that

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Speaker 3: saying something's happening. There's some families stuff going on. They

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Speaker 3: ask questions and say what's going on, like why would

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Speaker 3: you want to be home? Like, yes, you want to

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Speaker 3: hang out like your friends. But they couch their for lot,

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Speaker 3: and then they burnt those bridges where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: now you can't stay at this front house anymore. Then

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Speaker 3: Google search and we come up of the youth shelter

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Speaker 3: and they come and hopefully they find us sooner than

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Speaker 3: they get into really into drugs heavily or they get

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Speaker 3: abuse out there, and we pray that they find us sooner.

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much for having us on the show,

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Speaker 3: because it's an opportunity for us to talk about in

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Speaker 3: the ad that you saw in the in the NBT

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Speaker 3: is really to talk about young people they're hitting in

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Speaker 3: plain sight. It's one in thirty young people are were

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Speaker 2: Tell me about your foot patrols.

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Speaker 3: I stood outreach to you. Yes, I love how you

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Speaker 3: got it.

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Speaker 2: So it says foot patrol in the website. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I have to look that up. That's so fun.

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Speaker 3: Our street outreach is out on the street, so I

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Speaker 3: call them. They're the salesperson of Bridge. They're walking around

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Speaker 3: regular clothes and they're just trying to meet young people.

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Speaker 3: They go to libraries, they go to the mall, they

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Speaker 3: just walk around to really places young people hang out

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Speaker 3: over in it over and over again, and then just

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Speaker 3: giving them about information if they need it or not.

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Speaker 3: Just dumb somebody else and really out there talking. We

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Speaker 3: the health Uh, any health fares or any parades that

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Speaker 3: are going on. I've seen you. So that everybody knows

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Speaker 3: Bridge of the vent. They seem the van first. So

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Speaker 3: we bring the van over, which is another tool of outreach.

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Speaker 3: We want to make sure we talk about not just

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Speaker 3: the services that Bridge have, but any services for young

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Speaker 2: How about the medical van. Tell me about the mobile

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Speaker 3: The medical van, and we're the only one that can

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Speaker 4: They were out on.

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Speaker 3: The streets giving lemonade and sandwiches, and they were first

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Speaker 3: teaching at parochial school and they realized that a lot

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Speaker 3: of the young people there were, you know, using drugs

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Speaker 3: So they started at Boston Comments and what they realized

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Speaker 3: and it's always circled around what young people needed at

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Speaker 3: can move forward. And that's fifty four years later. A

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Speaker 3: Bridge has become a holistic approach of supporting young people

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Speaker 3: Like I said, University of Life Skills.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to ask you more about the programs.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break, but before we

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Speaker 2: go to the rig, tell me tell us how you

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Speaker 2: can how folks can get involved.

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Speaker 3: You can go there. We have a monthly donor program.

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Speaker 3: You can propride steady and reliable support to Bridge. Ongoing

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Speaker 3: programming help us prepare and response for emergency needs. A

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Speaker 3: lot of our grantstone, a lot of young people need

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Speaker 3: that helps us with that. Visit our ww bridgeoltw dot

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Speaker 3: org to sign up to be a bridge builder there.

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Speaker 3: Follow us on social media. We're trying to increase our

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Speaker 3: social media response as well. We have a lot of

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Speaker 3: volunteers support in groups like medical professionals to staff the

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Speaker 3: for the moms, organized welcome baskets for young people who

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Speaker 3: a towel, toothbrushes and stuff like that. Purchase gift cards.

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Speaker 3: I can go on and on forever. These are teenagers,

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Speaker 3: so they have If you follow us on our website,

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Speaker 3: there's different supporter services that you can do there and

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Speaker 3: support our young people. They like gift cards for Target, CVS, Primark,

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Speaker 2: The local organization Bridge over Troubled Waters first in the

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you. So. Bridge today is nice service, nonprofit

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Speaker 2: So I don't really wish young people so they don't

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Speaker 2: They're so teeny it's almost that you know you have

436
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: pain receptors on your skin. It's almost like these needles

437
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: are so small and so sharp they go between your

438
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: pain cells. The pain barely registers as you know, it's

439
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: never as bad as you think.

440
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: And then.

441
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: Get a sore arm. And then you either don't get

442
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Speaker 2: the flu or maybe you don't get it as severely.

443
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: Another thing is masking. Now COVID's gone, masks are gone,

444
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: but today on the tee, I wished I had a mask.

445
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Speaker 2: On a crowded MBTA, I'm gonna wear a mask. On

446
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: the other hand, if I'm in a restaurant, I kinda

447
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed of my server's wearing a mask. You know,

448
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: why didn't I just stay home. On the other hand,

449
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Speaker 2: I understand why a server would wear a mask. If

450
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Speaker 2: I were a server, i'd probably wear a mask or

451
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Speaker 2: get out of the business. So I'll tell Also, I'm

452
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: gonna tell you a story about the most interesting ride

453
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Speaker 2: share that I've had, and I'm curious if you've had

454
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Speaker 2: experiences like this. I'm going to tell the story. The

455
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: other day I had to the other day, I was

456
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: not in the mood to take the tea home usually

457
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Speaker 2: I am, and after taking this uber ride, I mean,

458
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Speaker 2: sorry rideshare ride. I don't know if I use Uber

459
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: or lift or which one. I don't remember which one

460
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: it is because I use both. I kind of use

461
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: that term just like Kleenex, even though there are other

462
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Speaker 2: facial tissues. So the ride share I took crazy very interesting,

463
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Speaker 2: and I'm curious about how you feel about ride share

464
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: versus driving versus taking the tea. Do you miss taxis?

465
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Speaker 2: I don't really miss taxis. Taxes, we're kind of a

466
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: pain hailing a taxi. What a bummer. So it's semi

467
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: open lines, I guess. And yes, we're going to allow

468
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Speaker 2: Jeff from Abington to call back. See how it goes.

469
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: He probably wants to talk about He may want to

470
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Speaker 2: talk about vaccines. He may just want to complain about everything.

471
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but he and that is okay. Tonight

472
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Speaker 2: on Nightside on WBZ.

473
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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

474
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Speaker 2: Hello, my friends, it's Bradley j for Dan. Thanks for

475
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Speaker 2: being with us. We have Rob Brooks working the wheel

476
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Speaker 2: along with trainee. I hope it's okay to say trainee Troy.

477
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: Troy's learning how to work the wheel being taught by

478
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Speaker 2: Rob Brooks. The best in the biz, one of the

479
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: best in the biz. Semi open lines now I'm gonna

480
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: tell some stories and see if you've had similar experience. Also,

481
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: we talked about about vaccines earlier. The flu is raging

482
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Speaker 2: out of control. Well, it's raging and it's getting worse

483
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: earlier this year. Are you gonna consider the flu vaccine

484
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: only without thirty four percent of Massachusetts folks have gotten it?

485
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Why so low? Are you against it? You just haven't

486
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: gotten around to it. The risk is not worth the reward.

487
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Speaker 2: I'm curious, We're all curious. I got it. There's one

488
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm not the RSV vaccine. I'm holding out on that one.

489
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: It's kind of new, and I don't know my doctor,

490
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: my previous doctor who retired. All my doctors seemed to retire.

491
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: I drive him right out of the business, said, you

492
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: know what, hold off on that RSV vaccine and maybe

493
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: neurological issues. But then he later said, I'll go ahead

494
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: and get it. But he kind of poisoned the well doc,

495
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: It's like, did that problem go away that quickly? And Uh, well,

496
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Speaker 2: there you go. I got all the other vaccines. Pneumonia

497
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: you don't want, pneumonia, shingles, got that? Uh what else?

498
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: Whatever hepatitis ones they have, I got them all, but

499
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: not the RSV. Don't go by me though. If you

500
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Speaker 2: want to get RSV, that's on you. That's up to you.

501
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Speaker 2: But I just haven't gotten it yet. I mean to

502
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 2: discourage you. I need to find out a little more.

503
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Dug in Air is with us, Doug. If I'm knowing,

504
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: if I know you, you're going to talk about vaccines.

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Speaker 4: Brah, You're creating like a Disneyland to talk about vaccines, womanism,

506
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: you know, all kinds of.

507
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: That's true, a Disneyland. I talked Disneyland.

508
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, I brought the vaccines go. I. I

509
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: was not an antivacer until COVID came out. And the

510
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: reason I became an anti factor is because of the

511
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: way they want to vote.

512
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Speaker 2: Hey, Doug, they had your phone's making sound funny sounds?

513
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: Are you?

514
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: Can you put it away? Yeah, now that's too far away.

515
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Stick with what you did before. It's medium, it's not great,

516
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: but it's it'll do okay.

517
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 4: So yeah, I became an anti back curtain during COVID

518
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 4: because of the way they went about it. They had

519
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: what they used their power to jump through all kinds

520
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: of hoops to excuse me to get people to take

521
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Speaker 4: this vaccine. And my problem was they ran away from

522
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: a debate. When you when you don't want a debate,

523
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: you lost me like you had all the power to

524
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 4: do that, but instead they they jumped through all these

525
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: hoops to try to get this vaccine into everybody, and

526
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: one size fit's all, no argument. Everybody take it. You're

527
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: going to lose your job, you're gonna get kicked out

528
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: of the military. They're getting all these things like all

529
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: of a sudden, everybody's got to get this same. So

530
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Speaker 4: what cut me was what else are they putting in it?

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Speaker 4: Why are they Why are they trying so hard they

532
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: get this thing into everybody?

533
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: Thought that since they were trying hard to get it

534
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Speaker 2: into everybody, that they had secret ingredients.

535
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Speaker 4: Yeah this, what do you what are they putting in that?

536
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Speaker 4: And then you even mentioned that a couple of weeks ago.

537
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: You said, So, I'm like, yeah, that vac he might

538
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: be great, but what else are they sneaking? Why did

539
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: I never said that you said something.

540
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: You need to say that.

541
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Speaker 4: Well, you said that, you can see why people would

542
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 4: think that, you know what I mean, I didn't take I.

543
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Speaker 2: Don't think I talked about sneaking extra substances in what

544
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Speaker 2: are what kind of substances do you think they might

545
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Speaker 2: be putting in there? So a sort of Menurian candidate.

546
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: Uh, well, I don't know, and why would they don't know?

547
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, but they tried too hard to get

548
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: it into everybody. So I'm like, I don't want anything, but.

549
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Speaker 2: Is it possible they were trying to save people from dying? Perhaps?

550
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, there was all kinds of reports

551
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: of all these side effects and you know hot, and

552
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people that have hot conditions

553
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: now that they shouldn't have them because you know, and

554
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: they happen to get it. So I'm like, yeah, I'm

555
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: just I don't I don't.

556
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Speaker 2: Try anybody anybody that has some sort of heart condition

557
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Speaker 2: that also got a vaccine. You're assuming that the heart

558
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Speaker 2: condition was caused by the vaccine.

559
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Speaker 4: I'm not assuming that, but I'm not ruling it out.

560
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: They just tried too hot to get it into everybody.

561
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Speaker 4: So I yeah, so did you You did not get it?

562
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Speaker 2: You never got it.

563
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: No, I never got it, and I haven't got anything

564
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Speaker 4: since then, and I've had shingles. I got the shingles,

565
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Speaker 4: and I still won't get it.

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Speaker 2: So like.

567
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Speaker 4: It's frost. Flu shot goes. The last flu shot I

568
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: had was ninety eighty three because I was in the

569
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Speaker 4: military and I had to have one.

570
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Speaker 2: So you stopped all vaccines because they were pushing that vaccine.

571
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Speaker 2: So that made you distrust all vaccine.

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Speaker 4: It made just trust all of them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just one more question, because your phone is making

574
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Speaker 2: funny sounds. What is shingles like? What was the experience?

575
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Speaker 4: It was pretty bad. It was like a burning sensation

576
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: and you got like it was it felt like a rash,

577
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: but I did not have a rash.

578
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: Like.

579
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Speaker 4: I never got the rash. They gave me some sort

580
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: of you know, medicine to fight it off, and I

581
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: took it and it just I'm waiting for it to

582
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: go away, and I'm fine, you know, I'm fine. Now

583
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Speaker 4: it's got over it.

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Speaker 2: How long did it last?

585
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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably about three weeks, three weeks, and it hurt

586
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: a lot. It hurt a lot for about maybe four

587
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: or five days, and then it started kind of weighing off.

588
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: And now it can come back at any time.

589
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: Right, I'm not sure. They say, if you have the

590
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Speaker 4: chicken pox, you can get it, but maybe it will

591
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: maybe it won't.

592
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: And and in no regrets, you'd rather have the shingles

593
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Speaker 2: than get the.

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Speaker 4: I have the shingles, didn't didn't trust what they're putting

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Speaker 4: in there.

596
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Speaker 2: What is your worst fear about what they're putting in there,

597
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: because I know in your mind you must have some

598
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: concern about something specific.

599
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Speaker 4: I really don't know. There was just too much of

600
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Speaker 4: a desperation.

601
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: And what would be the motivation for them to put

602
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: anything in there. I don't know even in your imagination.

603
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: What would be something they might.

604
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: Put in there, just something to mess your health up?

605
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

606
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: I just there was too much of a desperation to

607
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: shut down the debate. They didn't want any debates from anybody,

608
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: any other doctors. They wanted to shut down all the

609
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: debate and try to push it on everybody by threats,

610
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: by coercion. I'm like, that's just it doesn't smell right.

611
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: But they were maybe trying to save keep you from

612
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: killing someone else by giving them COVID.

613
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Speaker 4: Well that didn't even make sense either, because the idea

614
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Speaker 4: of a vaccination is to protect you from getting from

615
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Speaker 4: getting the virus.

616
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: Protect society as well everybody else.

617
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Speaker 4: But if if, if it means they're protected why would

618
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Speaker 4: be protect protected have anything to do with them. If

619
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Speaker 4: if it protect them from getting it me and it

620
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: would have anything to do with it.

621
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Speaker 2: It protects you from transmitting it as well.

622
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can't transmit it to people that are

623
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Speaker 4: quote unquote vaccinated.

624
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Speaker 2: If everyone in the world were vaccinated, that would be

625
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Speaker 2: maybe the case. And if the vaccination was one hundred

626
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Speaker 2: percent worked all the time, one hundred percent, that might

627
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Speaker 2: be the case. But not at a I was vaccinated,

628
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Speaker 2: and if not, it doesn't last forever. People lapse. Interesting, Okay,

629
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Speaker 2: now I get I'm I'm I will say this and

630
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Speaker 2: then I'll let you go. That I myself if I

631
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: decided that I feared, like you, what was in those vaccines.

632
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: I really feared it. I thought this stuff is going

633
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: to hurt me. They these people are putting some horrible

634
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: toxic thing in here, and it's going to hurt me

635
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: and make me sick. I don't know what they're doing,

636
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: but it's toxic for me. I would be upset if

637
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: I felt that way and they were making me take it.

638
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: That would if I thought there was something that was

639
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: going to make me sick, really hurt me, and they

640
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: were making me take it, then I would be upset.

641
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: So I get that, Doug. I appreciate it. So who

642
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: among you? Who among you agrees with Doug? And again,

643
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Speaker 2: I'm going to look up since I just found out

644
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: about it a couple hours ago, the fact that our

645
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: vaccination policy right now are CDC policies loosely based on

646
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: the Denmark policy. And I know that Denmark's not the

647
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: United States, and they have different demographics. They're a lot healthier,

648
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: way healthier than we are, which is sad that maybe

649
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: there might be something to it. If Mark as a

650
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: country that is doing this, maybe there's something to it.

651
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? If there's any experts,

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Speaker 2: let me know what that is. Also, I really would

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Speaker 2: love to hear from an uber or lift or any

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Speaker 2: ride share driver, because I have questions about how it works.

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Speaker 2: I have questions about, Hey, do they see my rating

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Speaker 2: of them before they rate me? Can they change their

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Speaker 2: rating of me if they see that I gave them

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Speaker 2: a low rating? Can they see how much my tip

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Speaker 2: was immediately? And can they give me a low rating

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Speaker 2: based on the tip? If you know the answer to that,

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Speaker 2: if you're a ride share driver listening to me right

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Speaker 2: now or a former ride share driver, I would love

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Speaker 2: to know. Also, if you've had a weird ride share experience,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear about it. You feel about right

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Speaker 2: share in general, Maybe you're old school, it's still kind

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Speaker 2: of weird for you. Maybe you don't use computers or

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Speaker 2: apps on your phone, then you don't get to do it,

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Speaker 2: and maybe that's irritating. If not, what do you do?

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Speaker 2: How do you get around? And I'm going to share

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Speaker 2: my story coming up on WBZ.

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: So I was talking about vaccinations a little bit, actually

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Speaker 2: a lot, and just finished with Doug in air, and

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Speaker 2: during our interview with the epidemiologists from TOUGHS, she mentioned

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Speaker 2: that current federal policy OURS is kind of loosely based

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Speaker 2: on denmarks. So I asked an ai, an AI source,

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Speaker 2: trust it if you wish, dismiss it if you don't

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Speaker 2: about the differences in Denmark's system vaccination wise and ours.

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Speaker 2: And during my research here during that break, I who

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Speaker 2: was thunderstruck by something? First I'll tell you the differences,

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Speaker 2: and then I'll tell you why I was a little

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Speaker 2: bit thunderstruck. Name that band understruck all right, Denmark. Denmark's

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Speaker 2: routine childhood immunization schedule covers fewer diseases than the US

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Speaker 2: and other They recommend fewer vaccines immunization for fewer diseases,

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Speaker 2: and these are either ones they do not routinely recommend.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. They do not recommend. And this doesn't

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Speaker 2: say that it's because they think the vaccination is bad.

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Speaker 2: They just don't recommend it. And these decisions are partly

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Speaker 2: because the Danish health authorities judge the severity of public

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Speaker 2: health impact of these diseases as low within their population

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Speaker 2: and healthcare context. They have a much lower population. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what that means. Maybe they've spread apart more,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's colder up there, and they have a free

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Speaker 2: health national health care. Now the diseases they don't recommend,

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Speaker 2: and again it's not because they think it's necessarily because

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Speaker 2: they think it's a bad vaccine, just not necessary in

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Speaker 2: their context. They say chicken pox. Did you have chicken pox?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 2: Hated it wrote a virus. They do not routinely recommend

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Speaker 2: vaccination hepatitis A, hepatitis B at birth for all infants.

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Speaker 2: They do not routinely recommend vaccination for hepatitis B at

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Speaker 2: birth for all infants. They do not recommend influenza annual

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Speaker 2: flu shots. Interesting, do not recommend RSV respiratory whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: R SV is respiratory since SINSI it's s y n

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Speaker 2: C y t I a virus for healthy children. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they don't recommend some meneningio cockle vaccines. And again, these

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Speaker 2: decisions are because they just don't think it's necessary in

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Speaker 2: their situation. And it's then I was thunderstruck by this.

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Speaker 2: It occurred to me that since they have free health care,

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Speaker 2: they the government has to pay for vaccinations, and so

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Speaker 2: because of that, they don't hand them out willy nilly.

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Speaker 2: They take a real look at g whiz, it's free healthcare.

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Speaker 2: We only have so much money in the budget. We

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Speaker 2: have to be careful. And I say, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: these things not so important. So there may be a

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Speaker 2: monetary conflict of interest in the reason they choose not

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Speaker 2: to recommend those vaccinations. I'm curious about your thoughts there,

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Speaker 2: and also I really would like to speak with a

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Speaker 2: ride share driver or somebody who knows how the ride

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Speaker 2: share apps really work internally. Wbzy