WEBVTT - 10-15-25 Sloan with Anna Albi 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.480 American wait to midweek. Here we go Scott Sloan back 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:08.840 on seven hundred W wellw he called it intolerable. One 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.480 of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've ever 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.240 heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.239 That would be your adjective of the day, is what 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:20.320 mayor have to have. Puerval called the violence downtown the 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.600 back to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.439 changes are coming after all that. So we're going to 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.760 see swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.520 Civil Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.240 and it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.159 Terry Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.680 people for even the most minor offenses. That's called the 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:45.199 broken windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.640 sailed for years by progressives, is just punching down on 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.159 people and stopping them and causing distrust in the community. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.319 And now, guess what turns out that strategy might work 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.080 a little bit. Huh. But before the Mayor's Presser Council 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.400 had a public safety hearing yesterday, it was really hard 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.520 to hear that, and you could hear the frustration from residents. Listen, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.800 I am not able to tell future tenants since they 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.800 would be safe. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.119 I've been down the district to a couple times myself. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.399 I just don't feel like we're getting the results that 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.160 we need to make our tenants feel safe. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.400 It feels like something has shifted. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.600 Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.080 have decided to move. The violence has just gotten out 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.759 of control. Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.120 be with law in public safety. She sits on the 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.680 committee and sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.240 how you been by? 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.160 Good morning? Thanks got me. I appreciate it. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.480 Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.440 all these people say, look, I have his investment of property, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.480 and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.360 I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.240 going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.960 my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.880 got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.000 was some of the most compelling testimony I think I've 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.560 heard in a long time, and it shows you how 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.840 far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.480 Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.960 got all those folks contact information, and I was taking 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.160 diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.600 very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.239 safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.360 So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.120 the police chief listing out the issues that we heard. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.000 I took notice on the exact location, so you know 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.880 we're going to take action here. I also spoke was 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.680 the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.880 brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.200 and using police based solutions to really dig into what's 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.160 happening in this specific spot to make sure that we 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.960 can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.519 It's exception plus reality. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.520 I'm here with the grape Vines about well, we heard 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.880 this morning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.160 the main location in the art deco restaurant on Seventh Street, 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.000 and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.280 I was at a wedding there a few months ago 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.480 and this absolute spectacular is way over the top. It's 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.639 so nice. They're closing that location and mainly a beef 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.800 with the landlord with Town Properties, which I get because 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.400 they there's some safety issues like doors not being locked 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.040 and things like that, and so we don't feel safe 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.160 and our businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.960 a huge investment in that. Don't know what it's going 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.800 to become in the future, if anything, but that's a loss, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.400 and they're moving their business operations to Walnut Street. But 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.400 you know, behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.800 that there's maybe some threats there, saying, hey, we if 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.800 we got gun you know, people shooting each other on 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.720 Fountain Square across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.240 And now we've had the shooting the other we had 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.920 what two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.800 like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.520 where people are gonna feel safe coming to our client. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:54.960 Tell it's not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.520 we're gonna have to move. Losing that would send I 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.640 think a tuttle wave of problems for those who sit 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.560 on council and those who seek to be re elected 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.840 or elected might be a good thing for them. But 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.520 I don't know if that's true or not, Anna, but 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.320 that that's really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.120 if we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.200 can't be in Cincinnati. You lost. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.400 So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.680 landlords or any of that details. I know probably as 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.480 much as you reading in the press. But again, this 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.440 council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.440 heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:44.000 plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.400 what we need to do to kind of spread out 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:51.120 the people and make sure that we have better coverage, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.200 also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.120 is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.880 was most shocking to me was the most recent recent 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.320 is it. Where's the fact that we had four officers there? Yep? Right, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.320 and that's that's just shocking behavior. I think we all 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.839 just have to name it that that is insane. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:10.160 Right. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.680 However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.680 matter of yards away from you would have been at 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.080 the turrent. So you know this, this is a new level, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.679 and we are stepping up to the plate to provide 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.680 more resources, new resources, partnering with the governor, partnering with 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.760 the sheriff's office, doing all of that work to really 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.360 try to tackle what's happening. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.200 But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone? 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:36.679 I mean that that you know, it's not like everyon's 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.279 gonna pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.680 but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.839 a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.320 All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.120 the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.800 to stop the violence. And that then tells me that 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.880 we moved that that our leaders moved way too late 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.279 on us. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.520 You know, here, here's what I would say. It would 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.960 be really helpful if we had support from the state 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.000 in terms of laws, because there are too many guns 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.560 on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.920 about this all day. It is too easy to get 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.200 firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.080 as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.760 had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.320 after getting somewhere climbs off the street harder. And you 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.000 know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.559 Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS with local 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.640 law inslacement, the Ohio State Controls helping us with us like, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.360 there are too many guns, and I think we just 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.160 all need this acknowledge are too many guns on our streets. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.960 And that is why I'm really passionate about we need 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.640 stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.360 level that actually empower us to go get the firearms 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:48.719 pot of the handle games with the people. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.640 Yeah, let me push back on that. A couple of points. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.440 Number one would be we have federal laws. The law 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.320 says if you are a felon and you you're carrying 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.719 a gun, you've now escalated that you go to prison. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.680 And yet we have judges ardi progressive judges that see 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.800 juveniles and see people go, oh, you got a gun. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.240 You're not supposed to have a gun. You cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.120 you're good, go ahead, It's fine, we'll catch it a 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.679 later date. I mean, weep. You keep calling for tougher laws, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.960 but you're not enforcing the laws of the books. Why 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.200 aren't we getting tougher with people who are who end 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.800 up getting jammed up with a gun and they right 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.440 out of a felony. That's that's called having a gun 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.400 and disability. And I'm sorry, but we have judges in 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:24.640 Cincinnati that allow that. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.760 Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:29.480 and executed. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.280 Are they're not? Otherwise they wouldn't have this. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.960 Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.680 But you know, at the end of the day, I 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.000 think we have too many guns. I support the work 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.320 of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.800 was shocking to me to watch the video in the 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.040 prep sumping gestrict with the police chief and how casually 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.760 someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot shoot 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.400 at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrific. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.160 We can all because they know there's now consequences if 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:01.560 I do that. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.880 Well, I mean officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.720 So like now it's a matter of putting together the 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.040 case and going through with that and that again, that 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.120 is where we have to do often to the job 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.920 from the city perspective of putting together strong cases so 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.520 our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're doing 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.360 work to working with the judicial system on improving our 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.080 technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is more 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.680 readily available that we had that we were able to 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.280 provide all that case information. So here's the I'm the 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.400 only only kid in my family who's not a lawyer. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.600 My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.000 and VC. But you know these lawyers, you know, having 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.560 making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.559 in front of them with technology, that is a big 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.040 challenge right now. So we are working the city puts 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.199 dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.559 with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.560 our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.720 the technology to make sure all that information is at 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.320 their fingertips when need decisions for being made out the court. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.200 But the problem is they're not. And you know, I 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.400 don't think gun laws may do something in the future, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.199 probably not, because any I think The other element of 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.000 two analoby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns? Well, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.120 they're breaking into cars. Well, why are people live in 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.040 guns and cars? Is because I think a couple of things. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.640 Number one would be there's a lot of places we 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.559 are not allowed to carry by law, and so I say, hey, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.240 I don't feel safe in Cincinnati. If I come downtown, 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.520 I'm gonna come with a gun. I'll come heavy and okay, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.160 if I got to go somewhere to leave in my car, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.600 I think that's just a It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.679 The more unsafe people feel, the more they feel they 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.320 need to arm themselves. They can't bring it in, so 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.400 they're leaving the car, which encourages people to break into 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.559 cars and steal guns. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.520 You know, I have talked about secure firem storageing cars 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.200 and force. So I know, no, this is a place 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.680 where we can both agree in terms of making sure 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.440 that you know, if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown, 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.640 but sure legal right, let's have it locked up right. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.920 So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.360 our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.520 lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, camera, landscaping, security. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.960 And then we're also going to have PtD go out 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.880 and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.120 you as I responsible suchizens driving downtown to say, oh 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.600 because of an ADC or D whatever the scale is, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.560 this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.960 This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.160 in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.960 we've started handing out gun safe for cars. At the 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.400 last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.199 We had over seventy seven people come up and grab 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.880 a gun law. And so that's the work I'm trying. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.839 To do it. As a gun owner myself, I like, okay, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.440 I think you know, I hate more burden that people 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.079 like myself because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.199 are responsible people. You know, talk about the guns on 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.920 the streets and it's getting out there because responsible people 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.280 are tired of de policing and you know, the lack 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.920 enforcement of our laws. I got all these laws that 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.360 I have to buy buy as a Second Amendment rights holder, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.360 and it doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.440 that they're going to rob my stuff. That's the frustration. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.000 But I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.959 there's got to be something relative to making sure you're 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.520 gun when it's stored safely, not just in a you know, 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.280 a console or a glove box or into the seat 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.280 or sect something along those lines. It has to be 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.240 in a physical safe that that should be by rule. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.360 She's council member and I'll be sits on law in 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.480 public safety, hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.880 people saying what am I going to tell prospective tenants 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.160 if they ask if it are going to be safe 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.320 downtown and people moving out, and it is unraveling when 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.760 you see gunfire on consecutive and what three over the 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.599 course of a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.640 other one of the other night where someone who was 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.400 sitting at City Bird and someone pulls out a gun, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.720 fires a couple of shots in the window. Still haven't 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.040 caught the guy yet, And I think we need to 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.160 make examples of these people. I really really do on that. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.360 One of the problems is, as I understand it, as 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.360 you understand it too, isn't it like people getting off 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.160 at the metro station at Government Square and then that's 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:53.959 where the beats start. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.439 So I think it's lots of you know, people getting 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.480 off specifically there, and more of just how do we 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.120 spread out kind of the mass of people, if that 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.800 makes sense. Right, We have a lot of people coming 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.960 in at once. So that's part of the what the 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.160 mayor is working with sorta on is, hey, how do 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.080 we kind of distribute these bus routes a little bit 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.640 more again, makes it easier for us to have you know, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.120 coverage when it comes to officers and all of that. So, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.480 you know, I'm not I just want to be really clear. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:28.760 There is no part of this so they're saying that 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.720 people use our wonderful public transportation or criminals. That's not 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.920 what we're saying. But we're trying to use some place 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.200 based problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.360 kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.679 how can we spread out the people the bodies right 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.920 to maybe just use some of the conflicts because what 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.439 I'm under how I understand it is some of these 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.520 are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.040 getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vuccivating. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.560 That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst, 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.400 you know, just stupid street between people who knew each other. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.280 Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.120 I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.880 it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.440 teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very basic, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:20.200 but you know, how do we help people even starting 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.160 in our schools, and these are conversations I've had with 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.320 our school boards, start kind of teaching conflict rushes at 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.040 a young age so people can learn how that's turned 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.160 down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.160 too easy. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.200 Well, yeah, that's true of all of us. But that 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.120 doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.839 adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.800 the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.520 should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.600 and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.880 it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.920 who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.720 to get from point A to point being lived their lives, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.160 but you've got criminal elements on there, kind of looking 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.839 for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobuster evers getting 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.240 shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.960 the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.520 to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself. 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.719 You know, we have the Fort Washingtonway underground garage. It's 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.720 not going used. And I know the cry was, well 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.400 it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what you need. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.640 I'm sorry, but if for me I've closed that Government 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.920 Square Metro station, I'd make it a stop. I'd move 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.200 everything to Fort Washington Way. You have an entrance and 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.680 egress points. You can monitor that with cameras. You could 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.480 have gun spotder technology, face technology. You have a confined 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.720 area that you can easily police and shut it down 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.840 if you have to, and you can control who's coming 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.200 in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye on 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.600 people and lock it down if you have to. To get 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.640 a bad guy with a gun and then run, I 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.960 don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that looks 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.040 like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there. 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.360 It just seems to me like you got to get 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.040 that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:54.440 think we got to shut that down and move it. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.400 I think everything worth discussing. For now, it's the kind 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.960 of changing the route to disperse that kind of cluster 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.360 Government Square, So you know, that is a step in 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.880 the right direction. Again, I want to make sure that 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.640 in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the pride 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.800 of the bus because you know, personally, I feel very 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.280 passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.240 because it's important right how most people are just getting 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.320 to their jobs, and it's also how in some of 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.000 our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.600 know whatever. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.240 Fund Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.120 you're trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.200 by saying, hey, listen, we'll just run We'll run a 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.640 shuttle to Fountain Square for those people, another bus to 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.240 Fountain Square. It doesn't seem that hard. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:42.160 Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.720 You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.280 But for now that we are working collaboratively with them 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.400 on this kind of first step to this verse, those 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.840 bus routes try to spread out the crowd to your 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.360 point of like what we have too many people kind 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.600 of concentrate on one spot and just one of those 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.640 people have to be up to no goods to cause 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.400 sify issues for everyone else. And I think that also 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.560 comes with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.120 You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art we 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:08.960 got we got to be alert, right, We've got to 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.400 have our eyes out open for what could be happening. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.360 And that's to where you know, we have community advocates 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.560 who are down there and you know, learning simple kind 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.400 of this is what a body language triggers of like 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.480 oh that could be turning into a fight. For being 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.880 much more aware and picking up on that faster. And 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.120 that's what I heard from the chief right yesterday and 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.960 her remarks with the press conference is Okay, we a 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.800 CPD are going to step up here. We're going to 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.280 be watching out for that a lot more. And you know, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.600 again using our composts, resition, be escalation skills to make 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.880 sure that those personal fights are not turning into gunfire. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:42.440 Right. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.080 That's ultimately where we got. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:45.640 I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.960 it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.440 there's a there's a percentage of the population that are 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.080 freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we were 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.560 talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.720 out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't, 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:01.040 and we we've got to come to terms of that 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.680 and segregate them for society because all this, we've got 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.080 to change them and thick that might happen in another 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.480 generation or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.280 to address to here and now. The people that are 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.520 shooting on Fountain Square. I' mean a guest that the 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.160 guy who fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:16.639 have had that gun in the first place, and I 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.320 would I question the need for more laws if we 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.040 don't take those people off the streets the minute they 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.840 use a gun and commission of a crime. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.199 You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.200 have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns. Right if 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.520 someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.200 criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.040 why I go back to it would be really great 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.000 if we actually had background check on every single gun 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.960 sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.000 gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.320 we could actually be able to have, you know, a 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.600 way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.920 should not have a gun. Right. And then in terms 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.760 of the hearing, now, that is why we are pulling 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.800 out all the stops, in terms of our local CPD, 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.840 working on patrol, bringing in reinforcement from Ohio State Patrol 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.040 right to really be out there in the community, watching 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.240 out for these instances and hopefully intervening before they accalate. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.840 Let me, I've got just a second here, and I 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.280 appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol, that's 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.520 a really good point is from what we heard is 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.280 you know, the governor reached out some time ago and 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.159 we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the Highway Patrol 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:27.639 is going to come in, and now we have all right, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.120