1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: American wait to midweek. Here we go Scott Sloan back 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: on seven hundred W wellw he called it intolerable. One 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've ever 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: That would be your adjective of the day, is what 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: mayor have to have. Puerval called the violence downtown the 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: back to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: changes are coming after all that. So we're going to 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: see swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Civil Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square, 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: and it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: Terry Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: people for even the most minor offenses. That's called the 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: broken windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: sailed for years by progressives, is just punching down on 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: people and stopping them and causing distrust in the community. 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: And now, guess what turns out that strategy might work 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. Huh. But before the Mayor's Presser Council 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: had a public safety hearing yesterday, it was really hard 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: to hear that, and you could hear the frustration from residents. Listen, 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: I am not able to tell future tenants since they 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: would be safe. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: I've been down the district to a couple times myself. 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: I just don't feel like we're getting the results that 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: we need to make our tenants feel safe. 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: It feels like something has shifted. 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: have decided to move. The violence has just gotten out 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: of control. Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: be with law in public safety. She sits on the 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: committee and sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: how you been by? 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: Good morning? Thanks got me. I appreciate it. 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: all these people say, look, I have his investment of property, 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey, 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen, 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: was some of the most compelling testimony I think I've 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: heard in a long time, and it shows you how 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction. 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: got all those folks contact information, and I was taking 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared. 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: the police chief listing out the issues that we heard. 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: I took notice on the exact location, so you know 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: we're going to take action here. I also spoke was 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here 55 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: and using police based solutions to really dig into what's 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: happening in this specific spot to make sure that we 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right. 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: It's exception plus reality. 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm here with the grape Vines about well, we heard 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: this morning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be 61 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: the main location in the art deco restaurant on Seventh Street, 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually, 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I was at a wedding there a few months ago 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: and this absolute spectacular is way over the top. It's 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: so nice. They're closing that location and mainly a beef 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: with the landlord with Town Properties, which I get because 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: they there's some safety issues like doors not being locked 68 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: and things like that, and so we don't feel safe 69 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: and our businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: a huge investment in that. Don't know what it's going 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: to become in the future, if anything, but that's a loss, 72 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: and they're moving their business operations to Walnut Street. But 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors 74 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: that there's maybe some threats there, saying, hey, we if 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: we got gun you know, people shooting each other on 76 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Fountain Square across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square. 77 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: And now we've had the shooting the other we had 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: what two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square, 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: where people are gonna feel safe coming to our client. 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Tell it's not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to move. Losing that would send I 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: think a tuttle wave of problems for those who sit 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: on council and those who seek to be re elected 85 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: or elected might be a good thing for them. But 86 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not, Anna, but 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: that that's really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants, 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: if we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we 89 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: can't be in Cincinnati. You lost. 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of 91 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: landlords or any of that details. I know probably as 92 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: much as you reading in the press. But again, this 93 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns, 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: what we need to do to kind of spread out 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: the people and make sure that we have better coverage, 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what 100 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: was most shocking to me was the most recent recent 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: is it. Where's the fact that we had four officers there? Yep? Right, 102 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: and that's that's just shocking behavior. I think we all 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: just have to name it that that is insane. 104 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Right. 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a 106 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: matter of yards away from you would have been at 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: the turrent. So you know this, this is a new level, 108 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 2: and we are stepping up to the plate to provide 109 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: more resources, new resources, partnering with the governor, partnering with 110 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: the sheriff's office, doing all of that work to really 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: try to tackle what's happening. 112 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone? 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: I mean that that you know, it's not like everyon's 114 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: gonna pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great, 115 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's 116 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway. 117 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all 118 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: to stop the violence. And that then tells me that 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: we moved that that our leaders moved way too late 121 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: on us. 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: You know, here, here's what I would say. It would 123 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: be really helpful if we had support from the state 124 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: in terms of laws, because there are too many guns 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk 126 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: about this all day. It is too easy to get 127 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally 128 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio 129 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go 130 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: after getting somewhere climbs off the street harder. And you 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun 132 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 2: Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS with local 133 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: law inslacement, the Ohio State Controls helping us with us like, 134 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: there are too many guns, and I think we just 135 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: all need this acknowledge are too many guns on our streets. 136 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: And that is why I'm really passionate about we need 137 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: level that actually empower us to go get the firearms 139 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: pot of the handle games with the people. 140 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me push back on that. A couple of points. 141 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Number one would be we have federal laws. The law 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: says if you are a felon and you you're carrying 143 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: a gun, you've now escalated that you go to prison. 144 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: And yet we have judges ardi progressive judges that see 145 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: juveniles and see people go, oh, you got a gun. 146 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to have a gun. You cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah, 147 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: you're good, go ahead, It's fine, we'll catch it a 148 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: later date. I mean, weep. You keep calling for tougher laws, 149 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: but you're not enforcing the laws of the books. Why 150 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: aren't we getting tougher with people who are who end 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: up getting jammed up with a gun and they right 152 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: out of a felony. That's that's called having a gun 153 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: and disability. And I'm sorry, but we have judges in 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati that allow that. 155 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed 156 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: and executed. 157 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Are they're not? Otherwise they wouldn't have this. 158 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair. 159 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of the day, I 160 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: think we have too many guns. I support the work 161 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it 162 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: was shocking to me to watch the video in the 163 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: prep sumping gestrict with the police chief and how casually 164 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot shoot 165 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrific. 166 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: We can all because they know there's now consequences if 167 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I do that. 168 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: Well, I mean officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right, 169 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: So like now it's a matter of putting together the 170 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: case and going through with that and that again, that 171 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: is where we have to do often to the job 172 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: from the city perspective of putting together strong cases so 173 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're doing 174 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: work to working with the judicial system on improving our 175 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is more 176 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: readily available that we had that we were able to 177 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: provide all that case information. So here's the I'm the 178 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: only only kid in my family who's not a lawyer. 179 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office 180 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: and VC. But you know these lawyers, you know, having 181 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day 182 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: in front of them with technology, that is a big 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: challenge right now. So we are working the city puts 184 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force 185 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering 186 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all 187 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: the technology to make sure all that information is at 188 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: their fingertips when need decisions for being made out the court. 189 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: But the problem is they're not. And you know, I 190 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: don't think gun laws may do something in the future, 191 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: probably not, because any I think The other element of 192 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: two analoby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns? Well, 193 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: they're breaking into cars. Well, why are people live in 194 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: guns and cars? Is because I think a couple of things. 195 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Number one would be there's a lot of places we 196 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: are not allowed to carry by law, and so I say, hey, 197 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't feel safe in Cincinnati. If I come downtown, 198 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come with a gun. I'll come heavy and okay, 199 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: if I got to go somewhere to leave in my car, 200 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I think that's just a It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. 201 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: The more unsafe people feel, the more they feel they 202 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: need to arm themselves. They can't bring it in, so 203 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: they're leaving the car, which encourages people to break into 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: cars and steal guns. 205 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: You know, I have talked about secure firem storageing cars 206 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: and force. So I know, no, this is a place 207 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: where we can both agree in terms of making sure 208 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: that you know, if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown, 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: but sure legal right, let's have it locked up right. 210 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing 211 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking 212 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, camera, landscaping, security. 213 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: And then we're also going to have PtD go out 214 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So 215 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: you as I responsible suchizens driving downtown to say, oh 216 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: because of an ADC or D whatever the scale is, 217 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements. 218 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But 219 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and 220 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: we've started handing out gun safe for cars. At the 221 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener. 222 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: We had over seventy seven people come up and grab 223 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: a gun law. And so that's the work I'm trying. 224 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: To do it. As a gun owner myself, I like, okay, 225 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: I think you know, I hate more burden that people 226 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: like myself because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners 227 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: are responsible people. You know, talk about the guns on 228 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: the streets and it's getting out there because responsible people 229 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: are tired of de policing and you know, the lack 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: enforcement of our laws. I got all these laws that 231 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: I have to buy buy as a Second Amendment rights holder, 232 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about 233 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: that they're going to rob my stuff. That's the frustration. 234 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: But I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun, 235 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: there's got to be something relative to making sure you're 236 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: gun when it's stored safely, not just in a you know, 237 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: a console or a glove box or into the seat 238 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: or sect something along those lines. It has to be 239 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: in a physical safe that that should be by rule. 240 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: She's council member and I'll be sits on law in 241 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: public safety, hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting, 242 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: people saying what am I going to tell prospective tenants 243 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: if they ask if it are going to be safe 244 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: downtown and people moving out, and it is unraveling when 245 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: you see gunfire on consecutive and what three over the 246 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: course of a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the 247 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: other one of the other night where someone who was 248 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: sitting at City Bird and someone pulls out a gun, 249 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: fires a couple of shots in the window. Still haven't 250 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: caught the guy yet, And I think we need to 251 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: make examples of these people. I really really do on that. 252 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: One of the problems is, as I understand it, as 253 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: you understand it too, isn't it like people getting off 254 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: at the metro station at Government Square and then that's 255 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: where the beats start. 256 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: So I think it's lots of you know, people getting 257 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: off specifically there, and more of just how do we 258 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: spread out kind of the mass of people, if that 259 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: makes sense. Right, We have a lot of people coming 260 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: in at once. So that's part of the what the 261 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: mayor is working with sorta on is, hey, how do 262 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: we kind of distribute these bus routes a little bit 263 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: more again, makes it easier for us to have you know, 264 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: coverage when it comes to officers and all of that. So, 265 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not I just want to be really clear. 266 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: There is no part of this so they're saying that 267 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: people use our wonderful public transportation or criminals. That's not 268 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: what we're saying. But we're trying to use some place 269 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: based problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know, 270 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space, 271 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: how can we spread out the people the bodies right 272 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: to maybe just use some of the conflicts because what 273 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: I'm under how I understand it is some of these 274 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are 275 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vuccivating. 276 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst, 277 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, just stupid street between people who knew each other. 278 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections 279 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half, 280 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know, 281 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very basic, 282 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: but you know, how do we help people even starting 283 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: in our schools, and these are conversations I've had with 284 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: our school boards, start kind of teaching conflict rushes at 285 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: a young age so people can learn how that's turned 286 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know, 287 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: too easy. 288 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's true of all of us. But that 289 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have 290 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's 291 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that 292 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I 293 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro, 294 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone 295 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying 296 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: to get from point A to point being lived their lives, 297 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: but you've got criminal elements on there, kind of looking 298 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobuster evers getting 299 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro, 300 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area 301 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself. 302 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: You know, we have the Fort Washingtonway underground garage. It's 303 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: not going used. And I know the cry was, well 304 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what you need. 305 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if for me I've closed that Government 306 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Square Metro station, I'd make it a stop. I'd move 307 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: everything to Fort Washington Way. You have an entrance and 308 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: egress points. You can monitor that with cameras. You could 309 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: have gun spotder technology, face technology. You have a confined 310 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: area that you can easily police and shut it down 311 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: if you have to, and you can control who's coming 312 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye on 313 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: people and lock it down if you have to. To get 314 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: a bad guy with a gun and then run, I 315 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that looks 316 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there. 317 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: It just seems to me like you got to get 318 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I 319 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: think we got to shut that down and move it. 320 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: I think everything worth discussing. For now, it's the kind 321 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: of changing the route to disperse that kind of cluster 322 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: Government Square, So you know, that is a step in 323 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: the right direction. Again, I want to make sure that 324 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the pride 325 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: of the bus because you know, personally, I feel very 326 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure 327 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: because it's important right how most people are just getting 328 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: to their jobs, and it's also how in some of 329 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you 330 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: know whatever. 331 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Fund Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point 332 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them 333 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: by saying, hey, listen, we'll just run We'll run a 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: shuttle to Fountain Square for those people, another bus to 335 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: Fountain Square. It doesn't seem that hard. 336 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro. 337 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes. 338 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: But for now that we are working collaboratively with them 339 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: on this kind of first step to this verse, those 340 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: bus routes try to spread out the crowd to your 341 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: point of like what we have too many people kind 342 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: of concentrate on one spot and just one of those 343 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: people have to be up to no goods to cause 344 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: sify issues for everyone else. And I think that also 345 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: comes with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there. 346 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art we 347 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: got we got to be alert, right, We've got to 348 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: have our eyes out open for what could be happening. 349 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: And that's to where you know, we have community advocates 350 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: who are down there and you know, learning simple kind 351 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: of this is what a body language triggers of like 352 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: oh that could be turning into a fight. For being 353 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: much more aware and picking up on that faster. And 354 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: that's what I heard from the chief right yesterday and 355 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: her remarks with the press conference is Okay, we a 356 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: CPD are going to step up here. We're going to 357 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: be watching out for that a lot more. And you know, 358 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: again using our composts, resition, be escalation skills to make 359 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: sure that those personal fights are not turning into gunfire. 360 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Right. 361 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: That's ultimately where we got. 362 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach 363 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry, 364 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: there's a there's a percentage of the population that are 365 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we were 366 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people 367 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't, 368 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: and we we've got to come to terms of that 369 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: and segregate them for society because all this, we've got 370 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: to change them and thick that might happen in another 371 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: generation or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got 372 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to address to here and now. The people that are 373 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: shooting on Fountain Square. I' mean a guest that the 374 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: guy who fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't 375 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: have had that gun in the first place, and I 376 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: would I question the need for more laws if we 377 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: don't take those people off the streets the minute they 378 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: use a gun and commission of a crime. 379 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 2: You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't 380 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns. Right if 381 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for 382 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again 383 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: why I go back to it would be really great 384 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: if we actually had background check on every single gun 385 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook, 386 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so 387 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: we could actually be able to have, you know, a 388 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You 389 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: should not have a gun. Right. And then in terms 390 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: of the hearing, now, that is why we are pulling 391 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: out all the stops, in terms of our local CPD, 392 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: working on patrol, bringing in reinforcement from Ohio State Patrol 393 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: right to really be out there in the community, watching 394 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: out for these instances and hopefully intervening before they accalate. 395 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Let me, I've got just a second here, and I 396 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol, that's 397 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: a really good point is from what we heard is 398 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, the governor reached out some time ago and 399 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the Highway Patrol 400 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: is going to come in, and now we have all right, 401 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: we had another shooting and so now we have SWAT officers. 402 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: It looks like parts of Gaza now on Fountain Square 403 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: and this guy I don't know. It seems like, okay, 404 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: now we're doing that and the optics that are tough, 405 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: But why why don't we if we just brought troopers 406 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: into enforced the highways, we could have regular cops, more 407 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: of them on the street. Why are we fighting against 408 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: the set? Why are we leaning into the state and 409 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: having more officers more troopers come in so. 410 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: We do have the troopers coming in helping, I'm going 411 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: to go back to the crime done. 412 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: Because like two days a month or something stupid like that. 413 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: That's what's that going to do. 414 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: Of our capacity? Right when we have big busts I 415 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: don't know a better technical term than that of you know, 416 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: these big investigations to take a lot of man so 417 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: having support, but that does free up our GPD local 418 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: officers to be out patrolling our neighborhoods. And frankly, I'm 419 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 2: gonna be honest when it comes to kind of patrolling 420 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: in our neighborhoods, I still stand by you know, sometimes 421 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Believe has amazing training when it comes to collaborative agreement, 422 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: comes to de escalation. They have relationships with our residence too, 423 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: and that is very, very important because having that quest 424 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: of law enforcement makes a difference when you're interacting in 425 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: the neighborhoods. So I stand by all of that, But 426 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to these bigger operations, yeah, let's bring in, 427 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: bring in support and having you know, swat out state 428 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: control supporting these like hot spots right now. 429 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: Sure, But again it took too long. I mean, that 430 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: was something was offered a couple of months ago after 431 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, after the brawl and went July, and here 432 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: it is, we're almost in the November at this point, 433 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: and now we're like, okay, now they're fire, We're going 434 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: to get them a couple of days. It just it 435 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: just seems like we're I don't know, fighting against law enforcement. 436 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: Then we just turn around, puts a lot of us 437 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: on the street. How any different is that than having 438 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: National guardsmen out there? They look the same. 439 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: Well, national guardsmen are not trained in our collaborative agreement. 440 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: They're not they don't know our people. And frankly, that 441 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: the scenes I've seen coming out of Chicago with Ice said. 442 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have the National guard I'm saying it, 443 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. It's the same. What's the 444 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: difference between local squad offers and that as far in 445 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. And yeah, I get the 446 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: training element, but I think people see that you see 447 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: paramilitary troopers that are either squat or now it doesn't matter. 448 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: You've got guys in tactical gears standing on that Fountain 449 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: Square to intimidate the bad guys. It's the same look. 450 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: I you know, for me, I will say, I don't 451 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: think living in a police state, and that's why I 452 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: think I'm hearing from me living in a police state 453 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: isn't our perfect version of safety. And I agree, right, 454 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: but to your point, like there's a crisis right now 455 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: and we're doing everything we can, and if you know, 456 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: four cops standing on Fountain Square wasn't enough, and you 457 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: know what's the next step. So it's really a balance here, right, 458 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, I don't think having a police 459 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: date is is where we want to be. But if 460 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: we are, you know, have so many guns in the street, 461 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: and we've got to bring in help to to de 462 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: escalate and keep those guns, you know, out of the 463 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: wrong hands. We're going to do it right now because again, 464 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: like we're taking this all very seriously, and I want 465 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: to follow up, go back to where you're started the 466 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: conversation in terms of what we heard from public facey 467 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: public commenters yesterday, following up immediately, in fact, I'd already 468 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: been my O office, had already been in contact with 469 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: one of the gentlemen and got you know, an email 470 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: after immediately, and we're working quickly here, and I go 471 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: back to problem solving and how do we address these 472 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: issues at the spot right, we heard some. 473 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Weed we needed to and I had to touch off, 474 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: but I got to get going way away over like 475 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: she's conc member and I'll be law in public safety. 476 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I know we just addressed a lot there, but I 477 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughtful consideration and conversation and in the back 478 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: and forth was really good. Hopefully people listen to this 479 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: and and and the right people listen to this so 480 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: we get some answered soon because this state. I agree 481 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: with the mayor. It's intolerable for sure. Hey, all the best. 482 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Good luck on the campaign. I know you're doing that 483 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: as well, seeking reelection and council. Anna, thanks for coming 484 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: on the show. 485 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 2: Be well, good luck, appreciate it. Thanks taking care, take care. 486 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: We got to get the news, run the lake. We'll 487 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: get your reaction to this, so more gun laws will 488 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: solve this. Well, then let's talk about that. Coming up 489 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: next on seven underd WM