1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: And just in case you missed it, it's the top 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: five spot Staggers of the Day. Now it's time for 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Dan Barrero's Top five at five, brought to you by 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Gutter Helmet of Minnesota. Never clean your gutters again. Learn 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: more at gutter Helmet MNT dot com. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Glenn Mason did remind me that Nick Sabman still does 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: live apparently or has one of his homes in Tuscaloosa. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it's impossible and history, Yeah, so maybe that's part 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: of what's impossible. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: I just it was. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: It stood out last week just because of the way 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: he presented it. And then you know, I now have 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: the benefit of hindsight that Indiana went out and crushed them, 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: which I don't know that I expected, even though I 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: did think Indiana had a good chance to win the game. 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: Top five at five Now Lavelle back from his cruise. 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: I assume he's back. 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: Yes. Did you talk to him about his cruise last week? No? 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: I did not. I talked to him in person about it. 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: I think when he was oh, you're right, we didn't 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: have a show Friday, right. 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: Well, we did the early early out he was out, 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: but he I think he joined PA one of the 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: days I was here or Nordo, so I talked about 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: it to him. Yes, we should get a recap for sure, 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: one hundred percent. See if he did the zipline like 27 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 4: I suggested, what we're wondering, among other things, what is 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 4: the uh, what's the worst lead in hockey? What does 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: Kevin Gorg tell us? Is a lead that you don't 30 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: necessarily want? 31 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's the same lead that apparently Ben Gosling and 32 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: his partner had on today's addition program. Password, that's right, 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: and they couldn't hold on to it. 34 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: They couldn't. That, of course, would be too nothing. He 35 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: dreaded two goal lead, and KG, if only for a moment, 36 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: was vindicated. Last night, I went to bed end of 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: the second pariod, the Wild had a nice, comfortable two 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: goal lead. Well, the Kracking came back and tied it. 39 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: But you know what the Wild did. They regrouped, they reloaded, 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: and they've got dudes, so that's what they do. And 41 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: Zukie Zuccarello scores two minutes and nine seconds into the 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: overtime frame, and the Wild recovered after blowing that two 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: goal lead to win three to two against the Seattle Kraken. 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: You know the pass Carrill naturally ninety seven. 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: You know what kind of pass it was, By the way, 46 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: got ripped by Russo radio yesterday. 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: Is that right? 48 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Carill needs the break that he's kind of not impressed 49 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: him lately. Wow, So you know, grading on a tough curve. Okay, 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: but it was a beautiful pass. It was It was 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: very well set up and that was the ball game. 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: So the Wild get another two points. 53 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: We pull up the standings just to give you the 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 4: most up to date standings because things not to catch 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: the lanch I don't think to catch. But we did 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 4: pull into a points tie with the Stars. We both 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: have sixty. They have a game in hand now they 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: used to have two games in hand. Now it's just 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: the one. And now the Wild return home. They've been 60 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: on the road forever because of the World Juniors and 61 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: now they're back. I did hear I think John Hines 62 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: yesterday so yesterday with Pa I think it was must 63 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: have been basically previewing the game, but also asking him 64 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: in lavelle like fashion, what's the laundry situation like right now? 65 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: Heinze gut through with the shirts and the suits everything 66 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: else he said need to be laundered because it's been 67 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: a long trip. And they come back tomorrow night to 68 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: host the New York Islanders. 69 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 3: The game you can hear right here on the fan. 70 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Can't wait. 71 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Timberwolves also stayed hot. Anthony Edwards becomes the third youngest 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 4: player to reach the ten thousand point mark. 73 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: He did it faster than Kobe. 74 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: It's Lebron and KD were the two that he did 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: it a little bit slower than. But it was a 76 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: very nice victory. The Timberwolves continue to play good basketball, 77 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: team basketball, connected basketball, good defense, and they have pulled 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: into the four spot in the Western Conference playoff standings. 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: What two three weeks ago they were in the seven, 80 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: Now they are in the four. They are a half 81 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: game ahead of the Los Angeles Lakers of Anaheim and 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: a game and a half behind the San Antonio Spurs 83 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: Davy for the second seed. And wouldn't you know it, 84 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: Wemby and the Spurs come here on Sunday night. We've 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: got a game Saturday. Oh, it'll be a schedule loss 86 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: for us. It could be a schedule loss. Julius Randall's 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: been added to the injury report for tomorrow as questionable. 88 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: I think it's with a hand injury. But it's tomorrow night. 89 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: It's tomorrow afternoon against the Calves who we just beat 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: last night one thirty one, right, Yes, and then we've 91 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: got Wemby coming here on Sunday night. 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: That's a lot of basketball. Is that? Three games in 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: four days? It would be. So that's pretty unusual anymore, 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: is it? 95 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 5: Not? 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Thursday wrong, my saturdayth wrong? As I often do. 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: No, I mean it's Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. That's three 98 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: games in four days. But I liked what Finji said 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: last night, and we talked about this on Enough said 100 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: regarding the Atlanta game where they ran us out of 101 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: the gym on New Year's Eve, it was embarrassing, and 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: Finchy said that word. 103 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: He says, we were embarrassed. 104 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: And I was not aware that the team had that emotion, 105 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: because there were multiple times over the last couple of years, 106 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: certainly this year, where I said, is anybody in there 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: embarrassed about this? 108 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? That's going to do something about it, and lately 109 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: they have. Since then, they have. And the question always 110 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: is how long does it last? Right? 111 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: That's always the question with many teams, not just the Wolves, 112 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: but certainly are the Wolves. 113 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: In this case. 114 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: But all that's good. I mean, let me throw a 115 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: wrench into the operation. Sources close to the Memphis Grizzly 116 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: say the club is ready to make Jah Morant available. 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw that. Do you bite on that particular potion? 118 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: That's the question. I don't know what to do. Yeah, 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: a bit crazed. 120 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: It's a bit difficult, but dynamic just saying, well, here's 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: the proposed deal that ESPN guy's coming up with. That 122 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: Wolves get Morant, right, Memphis gets Dillingham nas Reed and 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 4: a second round pick from the Bulls that we have. 124 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 3: Apparently, oh wow, a second round pick. Yeah. But also 125 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: Terrence Shannon gets shipped out. Wow. 126 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like an eight team trade. Sorry, okay, uh, 127 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: three team, three team deal. 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: And then so we lose a lot of people, you're saying, 129 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: including Mike Conley going to the Utah Jazz. 130 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: Conley moves on as well. Wow, I don't know. I 131 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: don't know if I like that. 132 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: He can't do that to Mike, He's well, that's true, 133 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: he's scared, not, I should say, Josh still scares me. Yes, 134 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: a little bit too much. You're gonna have to give 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: up a rotation player. 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: To do it. The question is which one. 137 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: Yep, Randall is playing really well right now, so it 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: would probably have to be Nas is the odd person 139 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: out because they ain't going to give up. They refuse 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: to trade. McDaniel's right, they're not going to do that, 141 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: right and I don't think I want to trade right 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: now either. By the way, Dante's playing is playing very well. 143 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: You're right, everybody's playing pretty well. He's not in did 144 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: you say he's not in that? 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: But in other deals he's been upfloated because he's good 146 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: and his contract is great, and that's a huge deal, 147 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: especially in second apron terrorism where we are right now. 148 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: You are correct where everybody. 149 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: Is Tonight, Big one at the bar in a rare 150 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: Friday night Big Ten game seven thirty tip, you'll hear 151 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 4: right here on the fan the golfers riding high after 152 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: the two game winning streak here in the Big Ten, 153 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: including the victory at home on Tuesday night against the 154 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: Iowahaw guys who are ranked nineteenth at the time. Host 155 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: Eric Musselman and the USC Trojans. The pregame show is 156 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: seven o'clock. The tip from Historic and I'm back on 157 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: board with the Barn now historic Williams Arena is seven thirty. 158 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: Eric started the show with us. He gave us a 159 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: good twenty minutes, and I enjoyed it. It was if 160 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: you don't if you missed it, I would hardly recommend 161 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: if you know the muscleman era from his father, I'm 162 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: talking about that muscleman Bill Musselman. But even if you don't, 163 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Eric grew up here and has always had a special 164 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: reverence for this market and for that arena, and it 165 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: was fascinating listening to him say, you know, I wasn't 166 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: sure it was going to be all that big of 167 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: a deal for me, and then we pull up to 168 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: the barn and I'm immediately taken back remembering this. In fact, 169 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: one of his quotes was, I remember the exit or 170 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: the entrance from which Luke Whitty, Yeah, was taken off 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: on a stretcher Ohio State guy the night of the 172 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: infamous brawl that was in I think seventy two. 173 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: I remember where my dad parked. Yes, he said he 174 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: remembered all of it. 175 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: And that's what I think will make it emotional for 176 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: him to be, you know, going up those stairs on 177 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: this case in the visiting side leading leading two that 178 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: elevated floor. So and his team is struggling mightily at 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: this point. So the golfers will not be beating another 180 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: rank team in the Big Ten if they win tonight, 181 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: but it would nevertheless be nevertheless be a very helpful 182 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: victory if they can continue the momentum. 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: As Eric himself suggested, and. 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 4: He called Williams Arena, I think the coolest arena in 185 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: the country in college basketball. 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: And then he showed his own players a video film 187 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: of the old Glarla Harlem globe trotter's style pregame routine 188 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: from Bill Musselman's Gophers back in nineteen seventy one, and 189 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: he said they couldn't believe it. 190 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: Well, did that just happened once? 191 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Coach, and he had to tell them, No, this was 192 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: the pregame festivities great before every goal to Gopher men's 193 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: basketball game when it was an event. 194 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: In this time. You may be planning to get to 195 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: this a little bit later, because it's a big night 196 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: for you. An hour and fifteen minutes from now. 197 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: The kickoff in the it's the Sugar It's which Bowl 198 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: is the Cheach Bowl? Yeah, it's Atlanta, the Peach Bowl, 199 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: Indiana and Oregon two longtime Big ten powers Oregon of 200 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 4: bad a lot of bad blood. 201 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: Between the two of them. 202 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: I go at it for a chance a place in 203 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: the National Championship Game to take on. 204 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Miami in Miami Bible. That's not fair. 205 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: That's where the title game will be held. I can't 206 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: believe they didn't put it in Indy. But Miami holds 207 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: off and rallies to beat Old Miss in a hillatious 208 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: finish last night, which both teams made some unbelievable plays. 209 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: And I knew it was going to happen today because 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: it was a very controversial non pass interference call on 211 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: the last row for Old Miss. They definitely could have 212 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 4: called it now. I will say a couple of Old 213 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: Miss drives, including the one where they went ahead, were 214 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: continued by I thought some if he pass interference calls 215 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: that Old Miss got that where Miami was just beside themselves, 216 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: including one on the third down. 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 3: Yes, but I knew today that would be a big 218 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: part of it. 219 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: I knew Greene would be all over it today, you know, 220 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: just asking every expert. 221 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: You saw it, You watch what we did? Was it 222 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: a pass interference? You know? 223 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: He's just so dramatic about all of it, but it 224 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: was a big non call either way, Old Miss loses, 225 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: Miami wins, and tonight is basically it sounds like Atlanta 226 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: is Bloomington South as well from everything that I've. 227 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: Gathered there Pasadena, which makes sense. 228 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: It's a seven hour drive, right, everybody's fired non plus, 229 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: this is their moment. 230 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean Indiana. 231 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: You know Alabama, they're they're used to playing those big games, 232 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: and their fans are a little bit probably jaded that way. 233 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Ain't nothing jaded yet about Indiana football fans because they've 234 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: not ever had an opportunity quite like this. We will 235 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: get to a little follow up on that game, a 236 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: couple of other items last segment of the show, I think, 237 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: or maybe the top of the six o'clock hour. We 238 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: will get to some developments in the A section story 239 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: that we have been attempting to explore the last several days, 240 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: because there are a couple of things worthy of note. 241 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: I believe Lavelle is also scheduled for five point thirty. 242 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm amazed you left out. 243 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: Because part of the point of the Top five at 244 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: five is what it's trying to bring air and exposure 245 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: to stories that gobsmack us. I'll give you that story 246 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: that you shockingly left out interesting of today's top five 247 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: at five, get to a little IU Oregon, and then 248 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: prepare for Levell next. 249 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: I don't know how you. 250 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: Kind of glossed over it, especially given the inspiration for 251 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: Top five of five as talkers, and talkers often means 252 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 2: stories that God's meck you, stories that surprise you, stories 253 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: that take your breath the way stories he say, really, 254 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: are you sure? 255 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: Or did somebody get hacked? 256 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: LAist example, Dallas Mavericks star Anthony Davis could be sidelined 257 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: for several months. And I'm not like reveling in an injury, 258 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: but it's stunning how often he gets hurt. In this case, 259 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: it's legitimate ligament damage in his left hand, and they're 260 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: saying it could require surgery that would sideline him for 261 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: several months. 262 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: And the irony is there was a big rumor that 263 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: was it Atlanta somebody. 264 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: The word was that there are a couple teams that, 265 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: despite his street closed history, we're willing to take a 266 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: chance on Anthony Davis. And you wonder, now if that's 267 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: going to be almost impossible given this injury couldn't mean 268 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: he's out for the season. And again, I'm not here 269 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: to say he's a soft player. 270 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: I am here to say that. 271 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: The most uncanny part of the Dallas decision to trade 272 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: Luca continues to be who you got in return? Where 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: if you're you know, because they didn't want to, and 274 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: they may even had their reason to say, we're not 275 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: going to give Luca the kind of lifetime contract that 276 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: he wanted or that we were going to be obligated 277 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: to give him, given the fact that he really wasn't 278 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: taking care of his body. He's done that now in 279 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, it appears, But then you know, the counter 280 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: to that is, well, if you have a right to 281 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: that position as controversial, it is given Luca as a 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: top five offensive player, but how can you possibly consider 283 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: trading him or acquiring in return? You're going to make 284 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: that sort of line in the sand declaration, and how 285 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: can you possibly with a straight face then accept Anthony 286 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: Davis At the other end, Now, with Anthony Davis, the 287 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: rap wasn't necessarily that he didn't keep himself in shape, 288 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: but he just could can't stay on the court. And 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: to top it off, he came to training camp about 290 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: thirty pounds overweight. So that's the confounding part to this day. 291 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: When you make the decision to trade a superstar offensive 292 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: talent like that, it is defensible, but it's indefensible if 293 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: that's what you get in return. 294 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: It just doesn't make any sense to me. 295 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: So you never took it to the market or anything 296 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: exactly that, you just made the deal, even if you 297 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: took it to market. 298 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: And Anthony Davis, because Anthony Davis at his best can 299 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: be a helpful player if you're sort of remaking your team, 300 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: but if he can't stay on the court, it doesn't matter. 301 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: It makes no difference. 302 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: And that frankly already, I mean, I don't want to 303 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: start calling JJ McCarthy street close, but that's what he 304 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: already faces two years into his career. Same dilemma where 305 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: you go, well, even if we like him, and obviously 306 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is a lot more established in his career 307 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: than JJ is at this point, but Anthony's older. Also 308 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:26,119 Speaker 2: that if you're if that guy can't play whatever, just unlucky, 309 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: can't play through stuff, combination of both. 310 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: I don't think in JJ's cases he's out of shape. 311 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean, the problem last year was I still don't 312 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: know that I understand completely why he lost forty pounds. 313 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: It seems insane, which seems because he couldn't work out. Yeah, 314 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: I guess that's what and that's what they said. 315 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, and you know, supposedly in the case of Anthony Davis, 316 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: it was he had some kind of eye I think 317 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: he had eye surgery, and he was basically told, you 318 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: can't do a lot of physical activity. Right as our 319 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: good friend Sam Mitchell has declared, you know what you 320 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: can do, stop eating. 321 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: Yep, that is still within your control. 322 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: If you know why I can't work out the same way, 323 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: well then I'm not going to be able to go 324 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: to the buffet every night. 325 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: Realistically, that's not going to work. 326 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 2: So you know, again, it's uh, there are players who, 327 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, just cannot seem that are good. Damn 328 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: good players just cannot seem to be particularly healthy. Uh, 329 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: Indiana Oregon tonight. My confidence level is good. But I'll 330 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: tell you why. I I don't think it has anything 331 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: to do with the Indiana offense. I think it has 332 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: everything to do with the Indiana defense because what I 333 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: saw against Oregon in the second half when the team's 334 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: played in corvallis No, that's that's Oregon State Eugene was 335 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: a defense that devoured especially if the line of scrimmage 336 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: the Oregon offensive line. You tell me they're now trying 337 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 2: to get for the running back in the portal that 338 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: they can put in the lineup. That's how desperate they 339 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: are because of all their injuries. And I say to myself, 340 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: my confidence is, I don't even know that Indiana is 341 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 2: going to score that much themselves or itself. But I 342 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: do think their defense they if Oregon can't run at all, 343 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: they did a great job bottling up the QB. Now 344 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: the word on the street is what they're going to 345 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: do is roll him out a lot more than they 346 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: did in the first game, try to get him away 347 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: from that pressure, which they didn't do all that much. 348 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: I think he got sacked like five times in the 349 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: second half of that game. But it's as much discussions 350 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: as there is on the Heisman Trophy winner quarterback and 351 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: a good running offense. I get more of my confidence 352 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: these days from Indiana just about how solid they are defensively. 353 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: And this might not be the same with with Miami, 354 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: but I think with Oregon, as good as they can be, Oregon, 355 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: I think can be that offense can be slowed down 356 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: by good teams. And the Indiana defense I think is 357 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: not just good but very good. I mean, they lost 358 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: arguably their best defensive player after the Ohio State game 359 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: and that celebration, and they didn't miss a beat obviously 360 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: against Alabama. Right now, Alabama is a three loss team. 361 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: You say, maybe we're a great offensive team, but they 362 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: completely dominated them. 363 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oregon's offensive line I remember from getting ready for 364 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: that game out there was they're pretty young, and they 365 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: had improved over the season, but everybody out there said 366 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: that Indiana. 367 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: Game was a low point for him because they got 368 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: completely owned. They just pulled up the stats. Six sacks 369 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: for Indiana that game and eight tackles for loss. 370 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That's it. 371 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: Then, basically that was you know when More threw a 372 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: couple of picks as well. Yeah, their defense is really 373 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: really good, really really physical, and Oregon wants to be 374 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: physical too. They're not the Chip Kelly Oregon that just 375 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 4: wants to trick you and run a million plays. 376 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: They can do that. 377 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 4: But I do think it's going to be low scoring tonight, 378 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: which of course it's going to be forty five to 379 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 4: forty one. Because I even heard Signetti driving in today 380 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 4: talking about Oregon's defense. Their defensive line is outstanding, tears 381 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: it is, and I know Indiana's offensive line is great. 382 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: They just won the entire MVP the Rose Bowl, including 383 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: the Center because they completely dominated Alabama that way. So 384 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: this is when the bracket came out. This is the 385 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: game I was looking forward to the most because Indiana 386 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: has been the best team all season long, you know, 387 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 4: killing teams, going winning places that most teams don't win, 388 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: including Eugene, which they did earlier in the season. Ducks 389 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: have I think twelve perfect seasons at home in the 390 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: last twenty years. They just don't lose games there, and 391 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: Indiana winning there and pretty much handled them by ten. 392 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 4: But I was I've been looking forward to this one 393 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 4: the whole time because I love both coaches, I love 394 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 4: both teams. 395 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: It's theirs. It's there for them to win it really 396 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: the whole thing. 397 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: And part of that to me is also that you 398 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: could say some of the traditional powers they've either beaten, 399 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: although I think this was a great, great Alabama team, 400 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: but they are traditional power Ohio States already out right. Yeah, 401 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: so you know, some of the biggest names that we 402 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: associate with with college football, and I guess you could 403 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: argue Oregon is one of them, and so they are 404 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: still in front of the base. That's probably recent history, 405 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: but I think it's it. I don't want to say 406 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: that it's like the doors open up for them, but 407 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: I think the doors opened up for them a little bit. 408 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: And maybe it doesn't wouldn't matter. 409 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: Maybe they're good enough this year where they opened, they 410 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: could beat anybody, and they did do a good job 411 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: opening the door. Did How often did Lavelle e Neil 412 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: the third open the door to his cruise line or cabin? 413 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: And uh? 414 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: Under what conditions was he sober when he did it? 415 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: We'll find out. Since we've last talked to lavel he 416 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: had his big uh Caribbean cruise, right, I think the 417 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: first one of his life. 418 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: And the early indications were what he told me. I said, 419 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: how was it? And he said incredible. We're already planning 420 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: the next one. 421 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's an enticing little tease right there. Which new 422 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: job will b flow choose? Lavelle's undies left on the cruise. 423 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: No way the Hoosiers lose Wolves and five really good. 424 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 2: That's from Clayton out of Rochester, a regular contributor that's 425 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: pretty good. 426 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: Do you think lovell it is? 427 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't think Brian Flores is gonna be with 428 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 5: the Vikings man. I think I think he's coaches last 429 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 5: game for him. I think he either goes to a 430 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 5: gig a good situation, which where Ravens definitely would be. 431 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: Not sure going to the Raiders would be, but Tom 432 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: Brady could make a compelling argument to join his project there, 433 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 5: or I wouldn't be spars if he goes goes to 434 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 5: be a defensive coordinator elsewhere. There's a reason why he 435 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 5: did not sign an extension last year. He may he 436 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 5: may have wanted options after this year. 437 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: Well, it would be a significant loss for sure if 438 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: he leaves not to be a head coach, but to 439 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: be a defensive coordinator someplays else So that's is that? 440 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: Is that a flat out prediction. 441 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 5: Yes, that's a that's my prediction of my three two 442 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 5: three two pitch on Sunday. 443 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 444 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: That's also also here's the other thing too. I was 445 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: led to believe that you know, Dernte Jones, his U 446 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: his assistant uh defensive backslash passing game coordinator, you know, 447 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: could be aligned to be the new defensive coordinator with 448 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 5: the with the Vikes. But now I'm looking online here 449 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: there reports that he's gonna interview with the Cowboys, think 450 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: interview with the Jets for their decordinator roles, so that 451 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: the defensive coaching room can be vastly different next year. 452 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: So here's the I think, if you're right the sixty 453 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: four thousand dollars question, why does he want to leave? 454 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: Is it he does not trust the course that this 455 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: team is on at the quarterback position. 456 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 5: You can only speculate, speculate that, you know, I was 457 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: listening live the data John Krazupsi Raingel kind of the 458 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 5: holy hell by throwing out some minuendo about hearing that 459 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: this potential strife and the and behind the scenes would 460 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: b flow. There's not been any reports or any suggestions 461 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 5: of anything like that whatsoever. But there could be a 462 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 5: variety of reasons. And maybe how the McCarthy year one 463 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 5: went could be a factor here, you know, because the 464 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: one concert's been the biker's defense, the one h not inconstant, 465 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: then the offense. So maybe he would be looking for 466 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 5: a better situation to you know, be on a higher stage, 467 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: maybe be in a larger market, go somewhere where can 468 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: get greater nor rioting and help his help his status. 469 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: The letter grade you would assign to the cruise, the 470 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: Caribbean cruise you just got off of the Lavelle experience. 471 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: What's the letter grade? 472 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: Okay? It was basically it was a seven day cruise 473 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: going to Miami the day before. Seven day cruise, stayed 474 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 5: in Miami the night before coming back to the Twin Cities. 475 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: So watched Bears Packers in the bar of Miami and 476 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: watched Bears forty nine ers in a different bar in 477 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: Miami before coming back here. It was spectacular just you know, 478 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: we're we're at sea for like the first two to 479 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: three days. So we did a straight shot from Miami 480 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: to Phillipsburg Saint Martin, and you know, just being on 481 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 5: a boat was just an initial experience and being on 482 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 5: a mostrosity that is a cruise liner, and then you know, 483 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: just being part from that, sailing through the water a 484 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: large and looking at the blue water and clear sky. 485 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 5: Like only only rained once the entire trip, and that 486 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: was only for like fifteen twenty minutes, you know. So 487 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: and then basically we got in the Phillipsburg at about 488 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 5: seven thirty am, Day three, of course, I closed down 489 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 5: the casino bar at three, so I wasn't I wasn't 490 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 5: quite awake for the great moment when he pulled in. 491 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: But I woke up about eight thirty and immediately just 492 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: ran out in the deck and just kind of looked 493 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 5: out and just saw you beautiful mountains, beautiful waters, calm waters. 494 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: Three or four other cruise liners dot too, these these 495 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: docking areas of massive man like there was the one 496 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: that's in Saint Thomas, like helped like six or seven 497 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: different ships at one time. It was crazy, you know, 498 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: but just looking at the you know, we went around 499 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 5: Phillipsburg and did the tour, and you know, they would 500 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: tell us to look at those hills that there's people. 501 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: There are people who individuals own those mountains. And the 502 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: guys at the house on the side of the mountain, 503 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: he knows the whole mountain. I'm like, good lord, unbelievable. 504 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 5: So and the people are the locals were nice. The 505 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: people working at the dock, they were kind of snooty, 506 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 5: but the people were nice. Then we did Saint Thomas. Uh. 507 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 5: Then we did the day in Nassa on and came 508 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 5: back and you know, stuff in the cruise ship. There's 509 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: stuff to do. If you wanted to go watch a movie, 510 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: you can watch it. If you want to go play bengo, 511 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 5: you can go play bingo. There's a basketball court. There 512 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 5: was dodgeball. There was shopping. You know, there was excursions 513 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 5: on the islands which you landed. You know, good food, 514 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 5: you know that came with the package. You want to 515 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 5: you know, eat somewhere swanky. We had, you got the 516 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 5: option to do to do that. So we did seafood 517 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 5: night and paint on the side and did Hibachi Girl 518 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 5: Saturday night before right before we got back. And you know, 519 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 5: the big question was how are we going to get 520 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: along together? Me and my brother? Yes, traveling together. That's great. 521 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: You know we got together for great meals and we 522 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: hung out in the decks. You know, there was an 523 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: area whe that smokes cigars, so I was able to 524 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 5: you know, end the day with a nice cigar in 525 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 5: their deck with the other cigar smokers. So I didn't 526 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: kill my brother because we sure we shared a state 527 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 5: room and we didn't. We were able not to kill 528 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: each other for seven days. So even before we dot, 529 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 5: we talked about next year the crew. So you're asking 530 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 5: me for a letter grade. I'm gonna give it a soliday. 531 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: Solid holiday. That's good. 532 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad it went as well as it did. I 533 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: think we need a camera in the Larry and Lavelle 534 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: State Room next time. That's a great I think that's 535 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: a good reality show. That's true. 536 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 5: Well here the day night one. Okay, so first of all, 537 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 5: you walk into the room. These rooms aren't that big, 538 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 5: you know, And so they screwed up. They had they 539 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 5: had one bed in the room. Like wait, man, we're 540 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: not sharing a bed. That's out, you know. So okay, 541 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 5: we're gonn split it up for you. So they split 542 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 5: the buds up, but there's only I would say ten 543 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 5: inches between each bed, so it's almost like you're in 544 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: the same bed, you know. So I come. I come 545 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 5: in the first night of course once again, I just 546 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 5: I discovered Caxino. Yeah, you and everybody you know. It 547 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 5: was like the it was the only barto is open 548 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: like after one am, so it'll be in a popular 549 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 5: place between one and three. So I'm there chatting up, 550 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: meeting other people. Met a couple of people from Minneapolis. 551 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: Uh you know, uh Eagles fan wasn't happy to see me. 552 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 5: A smug Colorado Avalanche fan walked by me and said, 553 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: we just beat your team. I made a statement, you know. 554 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: I guess that's when they wanted to beat the wild 555 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: So all I was going to I get back into 556 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: the room. They are like three three h five three ten, 557 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: you know. And so my brother fell asleep, but he 558 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: was sprawling out, so like forty percent of his body 559 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: is like on my bed over the tenige gap with 560 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: the rest. 561 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: That's too good. 562 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: Larry dude, Larry dude, you gotta roll over. Dog, You're 563 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 5: on part of my bed. So he rolls over, and 564 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 5: he rolls over. He just lets one out. Okay. I 565 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 5: had to retreat to the balcony for twenty minutes. They're out, 566 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 5: and I'm like, this is gonna be every night. 567 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: This is just too good. 568 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 5: So it wasn't that bad that that was the worst. 569 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 5: That was the worst event of the whole. 570 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: Do you do either of you snore? 571 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? We both have we bo so we both had 572 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 5: our machines. 573 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: You don't. Oh, you have your machines. That's good. You 574 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: brought them. With the pain in the ass to have 575 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: to carry those around. 576 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a little carry bag for mine. It's 577 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 5: not that there is a travel size one, like there 578 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 5: is ones where you have the main unit and then 579 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 5: you can break it in half and take half on 580 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: the roller, which is what smiler you do your traveling 581 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: Mine isn't that, you know. So I had to kind 582 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 5: of carry the whole bag. And then the cruise line 583 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 5: was gracious enough to give us the stilled water to 584 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 5: fill up park. That's important, you know. So I was 585 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 5: able to use my teapap machine and I forgot to 586 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 5: put it on a couple of nights, a whole cup 587 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: in the middle of the night, going oh man, I've 588 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 5: been snoring, where's my mask? So but h other than that, 589 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 5: it was cool, man, It was cool. 590 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it was a sounds like you, 591 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: like you said the real test as you said, you 592 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: would absolutely. 593 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: Do it again. 594 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and we're gonna try to do the uh 595 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: the other part of the Caribbean that maybe the Abc Islands, 596 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 5: maybe cur Al Ruba. 597 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: You know. 598 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 5: Funny guards that I was telling guards because I did 599 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: this story on uh Gophers basketball player Mara Braun and 600 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: I interviewed a father for the story, and you know, 601 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 5: we started talking and how was Holladay. We realized how y'allady, 602 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: I said, well, you know, I went on the first 603 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 5: of recruit, you know, and Chris Bron they go and 604 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 5: cruises all the time. So we had this fifteen minute 605 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 5: conversation about cruise lines and ship us locations. And he 606 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 5: never flies in the Miami He flies in the Puerto 607 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 5: Rico because the water is a calmer there. He hates 608 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: flying rolling out of leaving Miami for cruises and stuff. 609 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 5: So that's a little tip to me, I cuse for later. 610 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 5: So it's just a small world there, so pretty neat. 611 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: How was your did you did you suffer any sea sickness? 612 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: Were you okay with the ocean waves? Is that a challenge? 613 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: That's a good question. Now I adapted very well. You know, 614 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 5: there's a little bit of rock in there. You know, 615 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: it's weird because when you're in the bathroom you can 616 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 5: see like the you can see like the water in 617 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: the think, you know, swishing back towels on the rack 618 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 5: kind of swaying. You know. The funny part, Dan was 619 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: when we got back to Miami and we spent that 620 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 5: night in Maammy before Miami, before flying back to the 621 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 5: Twin Cities. I was actually standing in my hotel room, 622 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 5: and I caught myself swaying back and forth because I 623 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: kind of adapted to it on the boat. I was 624 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: still doing it even I wasn't on the boat anymore. 625 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: So there was kind of a sea leg thing that 626 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 5: I had to get kind of get through the first day. 627 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: Outstanding report. We appreciate all the detail as well. That's 628 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: what makes it so much fun. 629 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: Oh, by one more thing, Yeah, getting a drink package 630 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 5: definitely has its pros and cop. 631 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: I can. 632 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: I will say that. Well, let's just say by the 633 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: by the third day, I was walking up to the bar, 634 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 5: they were going buffalo trace on the rocks, right, I 635 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: became I became a buffalo trace guy. 636 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, very understandable. Now, did you socialize much? 637 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: Because you're very social, You're you're very approachable, you're very engaging. 638 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: So did you socialize much? 639 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: Did you bond with a lot of people or did 640 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: you guys stay to yourselves? 641 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: How did you do it? 642 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 5: No? We had some great conversations with people, especially when 643 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 5: we were kind of you know, uh, I called him 644 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: what I called him are h wise roaming hordes of 645 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 5: youths on these boats? Yeah, and it could be three, 646 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 5: it could be six, it could be nine and all 647 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 5: of a sudden, like after five or six pm, there's 648 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 5: just like they're just roaming the decks, you know, they're 649 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 5: just walking around looking to do something. There wasn't arcade. 650 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 5: They guess there wasn't cool enough for him. They just 651 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 5: kept roaming and roaming. But there was one part of 652 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 5: the on the boat that was cause you had to 653 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 5: be least eighteen of bing. So we spent a lot 654 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 5: of the days in there hanging out. And today at 655 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 5: the bar they're talking. We just circup conversations with whoever 656 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: was nearest. You know, met a bunch of neat people, 657 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 5: you know, and another the guy with see apnea, you know, 658 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: met h didn't see any Vikings fans. These definitely see 659 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: the Package fans. You know, there's the other sports frans 660 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 5: of other teams. And we had some great conversations talking 661 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 5: about music. Yeah, the bartenders, you know, the bartenders were 662 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: you know, they tried to get too comfortable, so you 663 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 5: just keep the drinks flowing. So they were they were 664 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 5: engaged as well. So it was just a good vibe, man, 665 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 5: and we just we enjoyed each other's company, you know, 666 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: like I said, being being with my brother and sister 667 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 5: for that long together. I was kind of curious how 668 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 5: that was gonna go over, But it was great. We 669 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 5: have some great conversations, good time, good people, everybody's in 670 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: a good loupe. I got a boatload of pictures, so, uh, 671 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 5: looking forward to doing it again. 672 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm glad it went well. 673 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: Have you waited in yet anywhere or will you on 674 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: your proposal for how the Vikings move forward at the 675 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: quarterback position? 676 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I uh, I got I got dig into that 677 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 5: this next week. I will say this too. The next 678 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 5: two or three weeks, we're kind of kind of uh 679 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 5: really digging down on an Olympic preview work because brother 680 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 5: gonna have access to some of our local athletes for 681 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: the next couple of weeks before they start heading over 682 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 5: to Italy. So you know, I'm making I'm making reservations 683 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 5: and scheduling interviews with like Danny Casper and the curling team, 684 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 5: the piece, the peers and sisters and their team, you know, 685 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 5: the frost. I'm being instructed to write about the women's 686 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 5: hockey program and the rivalry against Canada, so a lot 687 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 5: of a lot of interviewings can be done along those lines. 688 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: But yeah, I've got them I've got a lot. I've 689 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 5: got to lay out my multi point plan for for 690 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: the for the how the Biking should navigate this offseason. 691 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 5: Of course that will be parvat that would be determined 692 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 5: in the coming weeks when we found out who the 693 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator is and who could be left to help 694 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 5: run the defense. So but I definitely I'm for them 695 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 5: bringing in a veteran quarterback and not not giving the 696 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 5: keys to JJ like they did so eagerly last year. 697 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 5: Ended up being a mistake. We we always didn't see 698 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 5: that one clearly. We just thought that the BFO defense 699 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 5: is going to be so bad ass that anyone could 700 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 5: be running the offense and they will still win games 701 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: even if it was thirteen, that the three, or six 702 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 5: to two or whatever, and we just all we just 703 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 5: all just read that the wrong way. Of course, we 704 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 5: never saw the injuries coming. I know you were talking 705 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 5: about Anthony Davis and JJ hopefully he's not that guy, 706 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 5: uh having covered Byron bust in a hit career. Yeah, 707 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 5: there's also a difference too. Now, the soft tissue injuries, 708 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 5: the non contact injuries, those could be concerning, you know, 709 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 5: but you can't avoid the blunk, forced trauma injuries. You 710 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: know he slammed his hand on that helmet. You know, 711 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 5: I just slam I just slammed my car door in 712 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 5: my freaking finger today and I couldn't finish my free through. 713 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 5: It took me two extra hours to finish my calm 714 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 5: because I like the type of basically one hand. So 715 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 5: you know, so you can't underestimate. You can't call someone 716 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 5: injury prone a lot of the time when a lot 717 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 5: of it comes from you know, collisions and banging stuff. 718 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: But when you're pulling muscles they have a soft tissue injuries. 719 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 5: Then you guys to scratch your head about some things. 720 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 5: So I think the jury and JJ is still out 721 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 5: in that regard, but we have to watch and see 722 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 5: how the next year on folks. 723 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: No, there's no question, but I would bring in. 724 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 5: But I would bring in I mean, I keep thinking, 725 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 5: Marcus very Older. I'm sorry I was biased because I 726 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 5: was watching. I was on the row. What was I 727 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 5: oh when the Vikings were in town when Seattle to 728 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 5: play the Seahawks, and I think after the game, I 729 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 5: was back at hotel watching the Commanders play at Denver 730 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 5: and Mary other like drunk that team up and down 731 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 5: He put the team on us back there. I was like, 732 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 5: you know what, this guy one was bad and by 733 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 5: compunal form next year and this will be the type 734 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 5: of guy that KOC would have no problems giving the 735 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: ball to him. That it's not ready. 736 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 3: That's not a bad name. 737 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because that's a probably or potentially I don't 738 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 2: know what his contract situation is or what Washington plans 739 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: to do moving. 740 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 3: Forward, but that's probably a more realistic name. 741 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 2: You know, It's not it's not a guy I want 742 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: to be your full time starter, but a guy who 743 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: I think I do view as more than just a 744 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: placeholder as a backup quarterback. Uh So, yeah, that that 745 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: was That's that would be an interesting name to get 746 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: in the mix because I think people are being a 747 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: little unrealistic about who's actually gettable for that particular role. 748 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: What about Kirk Cousins is it does it repel you 749 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 2: to think about bringing him back because I think he's 750 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 2: going to be available. 751 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 5: Well, it has to be cost effective. Two. I right now, 752 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 5: at this stage of their careers, I think Mariona has 753 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 5: a have to be more productive than Kate than than Kirk, 754 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 5: if that makes any sense. I think the bikers have 755 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 5: to be open and have different contigency plans. You know, 756 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 5: is Mac Jones available, you know that'd be another guy 757 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 5: that wouldn't mind. But I don't know how many teams 758 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 5: have good backups right now? You know you want you 759 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 5: want mich Trubisky, So yeah, I wouldn't go there. Justin fields, 760 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 5: please just there, just Bear's fantasinos. Guys act before. You 761 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 5: don't want to have that right and around in a 762 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 5: purple uniform. So I will say this about JJ doing 763 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 5: the greeting when people told him not to, John Jacken 764 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 5: with opposing players and getting getting uh uh uh u 765 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 5: sports my penalty call the curly hair wearing number nine 766 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 5: he's he may be the new funky qv Man. He 767 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 5: may be the new punky qv Yeah, of course I 768 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 5: grew up with that watching it Jim Man eighty five bears. 769 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 5: Like I said, no number curly Harry's to head Budda's 770 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 5: lineman and defy authority. That may be Jac. 771 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: Well, I'm i JJ just annoyed me so completely with 772 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: the nonsense on the stiff arm. And then I'm gonna 773 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna get a collision out of out 774 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: of bounds, and I'm gonna strut and I'm gonna stand 775 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: there and it's it's I just I don't like that 776 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: look for a guy who is what GARDSI mentioned this 777 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: on Enough Said and we talked about it. 778 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 3: I talked about it. I think on sermons at least once. 779 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't like. Well, no, it wouldn't have been sermons 780 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: because it was the day after that. 781 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: I don't like a guy who hasn't done anything at 782 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: this level taking on that sort of personage, you know, 783 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: that that sort of personality like because it feels performative 784 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: to me, it feels hollow because he hasn't level established 785 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: anything yet at this position. Nothing and that doesn't mean 786 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 2: he can't, but it means he hasn't yet. And the 787 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: fact that that's his mindset still, I just think it's 788 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 2: very immature. 789 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 5: I have two answers to that. Here's a funny answer. 790 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 5: That's the bonus plan you get when he goes into 791 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 5: the phone booth that comes out and turns. 792 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 3: Into nine, did you get baby? 793 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 5: But I will say, seriously, yeah, he needs to tone 794 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 5: it down. He hasn't achieved anything there. There could be 795 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 5: some charisma there that can be infectious in the locker 796 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 5: room that he can maybe need to channel a little 797 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 5: bit differently, a little differently, but the you know, but 798 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 5: given his current issery history and stiff HARVD guys, you know, 799 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 5: I hope he doesn't going to try to head by 800 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 5: the wall like Gus Rot. Did you know he's gotta 801 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 5: He's gotta watch that a little bit. I'm sure that's 802 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 5: gonna be addressed at different points during the offseason by KOC, 803 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 5: especially when he was told not the grady, he still did. 804 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 5: It cracked me up, man, Uh, Max Kepler, your thoughts, Ah, God, 805 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 5: I just found out a couple of years, a couple 806 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 5: of hours ago. I was like, are you kidding me? 807 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 5: Of all the people in the water, you would imagine 808 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 5: they will get busted for taking pds. Max Kepler even 809 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 5: took a boy scout. He doesn't have any facial hair. 810 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 5: I don't think he drinks beer. What he's doing in 811 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 5: jet of himself with the performance enhancing drug that is 812 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 5: absolutely remarkable. But it also so shows you sometimes when 813 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 5: guys are filling the pressure and trying to pull on 814 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 5: their career, yep, that you know they stooped to anything 815 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 5: and you just make bad decisions. He was probably desperate 816 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 5: to try to find something and they're going to hit 817 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 5: two two thirteen to sixteen for the for the Phillies. 818 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 5: Last year, I remember Matt Lotton. Matt Lowton was struggling 819 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 5: to prolong his career. I think he's with the Yankees 820 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 5: at the time, and he got busting, taking drugs and 821 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 5: a lot of dogs. Like the last guy I would 822 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 5: ever think uf there with Kepler, the last guy that 823 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 5: I would think would do something like that. Tells you 824 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 5: how desperate players get to be able to perform at a 825 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 5: high level. They a wile to stay in the professional 826 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 5: sports league, lived the lifestyle of a professional athlete and 827 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 5: just try to regain whatever they lost in terms of productivity. 828 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate, but it happens. They probably won't be 829 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 5: the last time. 830 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 2: Lastly, Packers Bears Saturday night Tomorrow night. 831 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 3: Who wins and why. 832 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,479 Speaker 5: I'm gonna lean Bears. I think it's be a close game. 833 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 5: I'm very worried though, because the offense has been futured 834 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 5: the last four games. They have had terrible first half. Yes, 835 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 5: and they can't except for a San Francisco game next 836 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 5: she gotten a shoot out there, but they have got 837 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 5: to get the offense going early in games because they 838 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 5: fall behind the other team responds to a long ass 839 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 5: drive and now the time of possession looks lopsided, and 840 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 5: they're chasing games because offense has screwed up the first half. Now, 841 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 5: to their credit and to to the credit of captain 842 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 5: come back Caleb, you know, he's been able to rally 843 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 5: this team the Layton games and get the position to 844 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 5: win games, and win a bunch of them. But you 845 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 5: don't want to mess around with that in the postseason. 846 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 5: To me, the running game is paramount. They got to 847 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 5: run the damn ball, run it well with their best 848 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 5: run packages. Because the Packers do have they are vulnerable 849 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 5: with the with the run, and they're also vulnerable in 850 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 5: the secondary. You know, well, Michael Parson's out, you could 851 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 5: pick them. You can pick them the secondary a little bit, 852 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 5: but you need balance. You need a run game to 853 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 5: get them loosen up there here, so you could open 854 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 5: up all pages of their playbook. So I think there's 855 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 5: similing to be some back and forth. I think it's 856 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 5: gonna be like twenty seven twenty four or thirty to 857 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 5: twenty seven. But I think the Bears will motivated. I 858 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,479 Speaker 5: think the Bears are there. They're healthier, they're taller. Gordon 859 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 5: could be activated before the game a great over. 860 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 2: CJ. 861 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 5: Gardner, Johnson, Romo Donze has already He's gonna play, for sure. 862 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: He's not at one hundred percent game shape from a 863 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 5: conditioning standpoint, but he's gonna play. That makes a difference, 864 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 5: especially now you've got Luther Burden slipping into the slot 865 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 5: now and he can find matchup advantages there. And then 866 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 5: Brax and Jones is going to provide depth of tackle. 867 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 5: He's going to be activated as well. So the Bears 868 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 5: are training up. We're in that upward in that regard. 869 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 5: The plane at home is a charge atmosphere. Everybody in 870 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 5: Chicago hates the Packers. It's going to be a great atmosphere. 871 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 5: I think they'll I think they'll I think they'll thrive 872 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 5: in that environment and come out. 873 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 3: Victoria's Sunday column. 874 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 5: I led with, Oh, Josh Bell had finally had his 875 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 5: introductory zoom call yesterday, and so I talked to him 876 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 5: a little bit, and I wrote something about how the Twins, 877 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 5: after moving on from Miguelson, no have botched the first 878 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 5: basement succession plan. And even though you look at Josh 879 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 5: Bell's numbers, from last year. It would have been an 880 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 5: upgradeful word to go with the twins uh got this 881 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 5: past year from the first base, and so I'm congratulating 882 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 5: to it's actually upgrading a position going in the spring training. 883 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: I look forward to it, and I appreciate the cruise 884 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: report extensive and detailed. Have a wonderful weekend, and enjoy 885 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 2: the monsters tomorrow. 886 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 5: That should be great. I think they're supposed to snow 887 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 5: in the morning, and the snow's within about one o'clock 888 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 5: and it's supposed to be about twenty nine degrees at 889 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 5: game time, so a lot of wind going to be 890 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 5: bare weather. 891 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, a lot of wind is what we're saying, 892 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 2: which I think might I think you're a little too 893 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 2: high scoring on that game because of the wind, But 894 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 2: we'll see. Because we're things in Chicago. 895 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 3: Can change at a moment's notice. 896 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 5: Anyway, As you know, Mike Caleb made that overtime throw 897 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 5: to DJ Moore in bad wind, made to work, So 898 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 5: I believe in Caleb. 899 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: Thanks man. Take care Lavelle e Neil the third. Yeah, 900 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 2: a new video has surfaced today. I believe this was 901 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: cell phone video that is from the ice agent who 902 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 2: has been identified as Jonathan Ross, the agent who did 903 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: the shooting, and it appears to show Renee Nicole Good 904 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: in her car right before she was indeed fatally shot. 905 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: It was posted via social media earlier today by Alpha News. 906 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: I believe forty seven seconds long, and it we'll talk 907 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 2: about it here briefly because everybody, a lot of people 908 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: are reacting to it, and as per usual, there are 909 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 2: different reactions depending on who's doing the reacting. 910 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 3: But it is. 911 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 2: It underscores the point we've been trying to make for 912 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: a couple of days that as much as we think 913 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: we already we have, we don't have everything, and we 914 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: still don't have probably as much as we need to 915 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 2: offer up what might be classified as a coherent, measured 916 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: investigation of how to interpret what is undeniably a needless 917 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: tragedy that indeed took place. I'll give you a couple 918 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 2: of quotes from a legal expert named Rob Dorr for 919 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 2: what this is worth, he writes under quick take helpful 920 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 2: to the agent, the encounter unfolded fast, which likely limited 921 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: his ability to recognize that he was out of the 922 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: danger zone for shots two and three. He couldn't see 923 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: the angle the tires which a lot of people are 924 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: putting a lot of weight on, which matters for assessing 925 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 2: imminent threat. 926 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 3: Not helpful to the agent. 927 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: Missus Good was cordial, showed no animosity or threatening behavior 928 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: before the encounter. The agent placed himself in front of 929 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 2: a moving vehicle and appears to advance toward it. The 930 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 2: there's a term that I'm not going to use on 931 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: the radio for remark, a disparaging remark about miss Good 932 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: at the end, he says can be read as a 933 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: mindset of compelling control slash compliance rather than fear of death, 934 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: which undercuts a self defense narrative. You know, we talk 935 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 2: about this extensively tonight on Enough Said, which I think 936 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 2: is going to be regular time on Fox nine at 937 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 2: nine point thirty, a little bit later than usual on 938 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 2: Fox nine. Plus we've addressed this with a couple of 939 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: law enforcement people, at least one of them on air 940 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: as well. That there are a lot of law enforcement 941 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 2: people who confirm a belief that there was nothing professional 942 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 2: about get in front of the vehicle, that that is 943 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 2: not a maneuver that is recommended, And to a certain extent, 944 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 2: you could say, if indeed the officer ever felt threatened 945 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 2: legitimately threatened. The actions preceding it made that almost inevitable, 946 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: which I think is one of the questions that absolutely 947 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 2: needs to be asked. And we've talked about the larger 948 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: ramifications of that. The this was this was a tragedy 949 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 2: in that sense waiting to happen likely to be repeated, 950 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: given the approach, in some cases quite reckless and unnecessarily 951 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 2: aggressive approach that's been taken in more than targeted attempts 952 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 2: to get rid of the bad guys. I will add 953 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 2: this though, that that that occurred to me, have you 954 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: seen it? 955 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 3: Have you had a chance to see it? Yep. 956 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 2: I'll give you a chance to respond to it as 957 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 2: well if you have anything in particular, that is you 958 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: know that might be in your mind. But the other 959 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 2: thing that heard to me, I think it's also I 960 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 2: think there is what would be classified as more clarity 961 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 2: on her decision to dismiss the directives, which were basically 962 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 2: twice to get out of the car one time with 963 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: an expletive. 964 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 3: That seems a little clearer to me than it was before. 965 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 2: And I'll say the obvious again, the approach that the 966 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: victim took does not necessarily or should not end in 967 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 2: her death. That should still be clear. However, what we're 968 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: hearing from a lot of circles is that this is 969 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 2: an example of how poorly trained or I was going 970 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 2: to say inexperienced. I don't think this agent is necessarily 971 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 2: inexperienced based on what I've read, but this feeling that 972 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 2: a lot of these folks are not properly If you 973 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: buy that logic, and I think there's some truth to it, 974 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: given the numbers that are now involved in this activity, 975 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't that be all the more reason to not be 976 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: able to trust how well they would handle the situation 977 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 2: like this, And doesn't that scream out loud that's strategically speaking, 978 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: you're better off following the instructions if you believe that 979 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: they're not equipped, they're not as professional as they should be. 980 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 2: To me, the moral of that story is, no matter 981 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: what you've been trained to do, no matter what you 982 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: think you want to do, you may have had no effort, 983 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 2: no intent to any damage when you're turning the wheels 984 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: on that car. It literally might be at that point 985 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 2: to just go. But again, strategically moving forward, if you're 986 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: in the group that says I want to know exercise 987 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 2: my rights as a citizen to get involved in this 988 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 2: and protest in my own way. Doesn't that shout out 989 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 2: in that moment you have to think worst case scenario, 990 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: get out of the vehicle at that point if indeed 991 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 2: you have very little faith that the individuals are trustworthy 992 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 2: or experienced enough to do the right thing. And one 993 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: of the right things again I'm hearing from law enforcement 994 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 2: people is not to get in front of that car. 995 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 2: And you could add that this individual we've heard six 996 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 2: months ago got hit, right, which would again to me 997 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 2: scream that that individual should be more cognizant of that 998 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 2: not being the correct move to make anything else hit you. 999 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 4: No, that last point, I think is a good one. 1000 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 4: It's know your personnel, as we say in the sports world, 1001 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 4: know who you're dealing with. 1002 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 3: Know that. And the other thing, too is whether you 1003 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 3: agree with it or not. These agents are under siege 1004 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 3: in a lot of these places, right because we're even 1005 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 3: seeing videos of today in this neighborhood, around this neighborhood 1006 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 3: in Saint Louis Park, Hopkins, a little bit of Minnetonka, 1007 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 3: and this is not an isolated incident where people are 1008 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 3: yelling at him, screaming at him giving all of that, 1009 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 3: and whatever you think of that, you also just think 1010 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 3: about what they're thinking, the agents and the mindset that 1011 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 3: they might be in, because we're seeing videos of how 1012 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 3: they're responding to it, not just in this tragic case, 1013 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 3: but just in general on the streets here, with what 1014 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 3: they're doing with their weapons, what they're doing with the 1015 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 3: other you know, the smoke that they're blowing at people, 1016 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 3: the whole deal. It's tense all around, and they have 1017 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: the weapons. It's tense all around and they have the weapons. 1018 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like what we talk about with cyclists. 1019 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 3: We'll go ahead. 1020 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 4: You can think a car can have your you should 1021 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 4: stay out of your bike path, but at the end 1022 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 4: of the day, they're the ones that have the weapons. 1023 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 2: Shad the true and and by the way, this again 1024 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 2: does not end with me thinking, well, it's okay that 1025 00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: she was shot and killed. 1026 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 3: Not even close. 1027 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is in the real world 1028 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 2: situation in which we live, that's part of what needs 1029 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 2: to be thought about. None of that necessarily lets the 1030 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 2: officer off the hook. I've said yesterday, I stand by 1031 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 2: it because people I got a couple of text from 1032 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 2: people saying is this the launderingan case all over again, 1033 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 2: which I thought was easy or as tragic as it was, 1034 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: because these are all tragedies that it made no sense 1035 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 2: to overcharge, as Mary Moriarty was clearly in the mood 1036 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 2: to do the State trooper in that case. 1037 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 3: I don't think this is a laundergun case. 1038 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more vulnerability on the part 1039 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: of the officer. 1040 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,240 Speaker 3: I need to know more. I want more investigation. 1041 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: Obviously Bureau criminal apprehension is sadly not going to be 1042 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't appear is going to be a part of that. 1043 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 2: So I none of this is to say, well. 1044 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 3: Then the officer should go scott free. 1045 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 2: What I'm say saying is there's a cautionary tale here 1046 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 2: that in a real world situation in which we're in 1047 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 2: needs I think is important to take under us some 1048 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 2: consideration as well. So as I said, we didn't have 1049 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: this video till today, Right for some people, it's crystallizing 1050 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 2: things for them. 1051 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 3: Well, isn't the moral of that story? We need more, 1052 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 3: We need to have. 1053 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: An opportunity because we didn't know one would assume there's 1054 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 2: going to be bodycam video that it comes out at 1055 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 2: some point, I said also the VP talking about this, 1056 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 2: what was the term he used absolute immunity, which is 1057 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: even a term I don't think that legally exists that 1058 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 2: he just you know, created. So there are still lots 1059 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 2: of open questions. But this was I think the one 1060 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 2: interesting development today that gave us a little bit of 1061 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 2: a different angle, one could say. And the wife of 1062 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 2: the victim, I think, in terms of rhetoric, was more 1063 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 2: aggressive than the victim was. 1064 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 4: Correct sarcastic. Sarcastic, she's filming it, Yeah, exactly, whole deal. 1065 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 2: Uh So I am now, and I know we're not 1066 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: allowed to do this, as we've said in twenty twenty 1067 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 2: six or twenty five or twenty four. I'm describing what 1068 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 2: I've seen. You can draw whatever conclusions that you want 1069 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 2: from what I'm describing. What I'm what I'm attempting to 1070 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 2: do is for the sake of accuracy, describe what we 1071 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 2: saw on the tape. And if you decide, as several 1072 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 2: people already have via text, to say, what sounds like, here's. 1073 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 3: What you're concluding. 1074 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 2: Don't hold me responsible for the direction you want to 1075 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 2: take it. 1076 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 3: That's not my job. You can project all you want. 1077 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 2: You do not have a right to project or what 1078 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: I am saying, which is what I'm actually watching, and 1079 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: all of it goes into the stew is And that's 1080 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: what I think the legal expert was attempting to say. 1081 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 2: He's trying to go across the board and say here 1082 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 2: my impressions about how this might be taken on both 1083 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: sides of the equation in terms of who might ultimately 1084 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 2: be held responsible. 1085 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 3: Let's pause. 1086 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 2: We will wrap up the program and remind you what 1087 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 2: you missed earlier in the show, including a great conversation 1088 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 2: at the top of the program with Eric Musselman, who 1089 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 2: was probably well, I know he's already at the barn 1090 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 2: for a seven thirty start. Is USC Trojans taking on 1091 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 2: the goal to go for men's basketball team right here 1092 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: in the fan show rap as always presented by American 1093 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,919 Speaker 2: Pressure Commercial Great Pressure Washer since nineteen seventy five. 1094 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 3: It's the Bumper to Bumper Show wrapped. 1095 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: We moved some things around on the Friday Football Beast 1096 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 2: and I think it maybe freshened it up just a 1097 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: little bit. For example, we had Eric Musselman, the USC 1098 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 2: basketball coach, good friend of the program for many many years, 1099 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 2: son of Bill Musselman, former Gopher coaching legend back at 1100 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 2: the Barn to night, basically for the first time right 1101 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 2: in any meaningful way since he was an eight year 1102 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: old kid watching his father sort of rebuild this program 1103 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 2: and back in the early seventies to a level you 1104 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 2: could argue other than Clem it's never been to again. 1105 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 2: He joined off the top of the program good memories 1106 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 2: of what he remembers here and his memories of the 1107 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 2: Barn as well. 1108 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 3: Ben Gessling in studio. 1109 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 2: After a rather devastating loss on Program Passer in which 1110 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 2: they blew the dreaded two two answer lead, I guess 1111 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 2: your two clue lead and lots on the Vikings post 1112 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 2: mortem with Ben picks with Gerby at four fifteen and 1113 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 2: Ben hung around for that, which made it kind of interesting. 1114 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 2: Lavelle gave us about as complete a cruise report as 1115 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 2: one could get. It even included a flatulence report involving 1116 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 2: his brother. 1117 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 3: It's it's yard. 1118 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 2: That's another one that you can't possibly predict correct, sprawled 1119 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 2: all over both their beds that are ten inches apart 1120 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,479 Speaker 2: in the rather tiny cruise room. 1121 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 3: Sixty year old brothers on a cruise in the state. 1122 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 4: Room as good as it gets and then slamming his 1123 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 4: hand in a car door like barely's a blip on 1124 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 4: the radar. 1125 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, after that story, No, there's no question everything. Yeah, 1126 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 2: for sure, hundred percent. I don't forget enough said tonight 1127 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,919 Speaker 2: regular time on both shows, A regular time. I thought 1128 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 2: she said on the plus it was later. It could 1129 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 2: be whatever. And the first section is all a section 1130 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,479 Speaker 2: block of the stories that one might expect this week, 1131 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 2: including a look back on the governor's decision to announce 1132 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 2: he was not going to run for a third term 1133 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 2: and then go immediately to martyrdom. 1134 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 3: The martyrdom direction. 1135 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: That's tonight on Fox nine, Gopher USC coverage Men's basketball 1136 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 2: at the Barn Tonight begins at seven. 1137 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 4: Are you going? I am going? You are going? You 1138 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 4: are going outstanding. A rare Friday night game into Barney 1139 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 4: should be fun. I might be well populated. 1140 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 2: We will see a fan of demand tonight that will 1141 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 2: lead into Gopher's USC. The fan has learned that with 1142 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 2: no Vikings game this Sunday, it's a two hour edition 1143 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 2: of Sunday Sermons in which I'm. 1144 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 3: Sure we will do a Packers what. 1145 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 2: It'll be the Packer review after the Packers review, right, 1146 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 2: because Gert, I should say Kirby, Dave Sinecon and Blake 1147 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 2: Moore eight to nine, and then I'm on nine until 1148 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 2: eleven with Blake Moore. So I'm sure we'll talk about that, 1149 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 2: and I'm assuming we'll talk a little bit about what 1150 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: will then be determined as the two combatants in the 1151 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 2: college football Championship Game this year. Indiana is officially a 1152 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 2: three point favorite, yet given a sixty eight sixty eight 1153 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 2: percent chance to win. I don't know how that computes. 1154 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 4: The peres are always they don't make a ton of sense, 1155 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 4: and they shouldn't. They're pretty much different right ones a 1156 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 4: betting line, one's a predictor of who's gonna win? Is 1157 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 4: the Fernando Mendoza is listed as mel Kuiper's second. 1158 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 3: Best quarterback prospect. Who would be number one? Do you know? 1159 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 3: I'd have to think about it. I don't wonder who 1160 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 3: that is. Yeah, I don't know. Somebody might be able 1161 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 3: to tell us. 1162 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 2: So that's the plan for tonight, that's the plan for 1163 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: the weekend as as well. We got a bunch of 1164 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 2: texts responding again to our last segment. Yes, we have 1165 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: said it. I don't know how many times I've said it, 1166 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,919 Speaker 2: say it to Night on TV. If we didn't have 1167 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 2: the immigrant the immigration enforcement approach that we do have 1168 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,439 Speaker 2: right now, thousand more agents coming to by the way, 1169 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 2: thousand more, Yeah, I'm sure they've all been well trained, 1170 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 2: then the disaster waiting to happen wouldn't have happened. 1171 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 3: We wouldn't be talking about it. 1172 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 2: That is the larger issue, which we have pounded into 1173 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 2: the ground over and over again. You're not going to 1174 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 2: get any argument on this program about that being the 1175 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 2: set of circumstances that pretty much made what took place 1176 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 2: earlier in this week inevitable. That's the larger problem. And unfortunately, 1177 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 2: as I said, this administration isn't going to back off. 1178 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 2: It's going to actually be emboldened by what took place 1179 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 2: and said we're going to double We're going to triple down. 1180 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Which is why, again, as even the governor of the 1181 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 2: state has said, folks have to be very strategic in 1182 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 2: the approach they take. Otherwise you're asking for more of 1183 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 2: a police presence than even ever before. Thank you for 1184 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 2: watching today, Thank you indeed for listening, and we will 1185 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: talk to you on sermons beginning at nine a m. 1186 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 3: Sunday. 1187 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 5: Thank you everybody for coming here, never needing