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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Way on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Bradley for Dan Tonight on Nightside.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to Kelly Leonard of Boston History Company for coming

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Speaker 3: in and giving us some extra layer of details on

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Speaker 3: some of these historical events that we know about. I

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Speaker 3: would definitely take their tour and uh oh, if you're

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Speaker 3: a social media person you're cruising around, you're instead of

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Speaker 3: doom scrolling, you might want to go to YouTube and

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Speaker 3: search Boston History Company. That's where I found them, and

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Speaker 3: I was very impressed by Daniel, who is I guess

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Speaker 3: the founder of this. And you know how it is

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Speaker 3: on YouTube, you're always looking for something new. You've you've

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Speaker 3: seen everything. You're looking for something worth watching. Those are

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Speaker 3: those are worth watching. They seem better than most things.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, Boston History Company. Next on WBZ,

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Speaker 3: we're going to learn some more things. We're going to

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Speaker 3: have some more fun. We're going to do uh airline

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Speaker 3: travel news tips and tricks, And among the things you're

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Speaker 3: going to find out about is that there's an airline

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Speaker 3: providing a new service but schedule to go bankrupt. So

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Speaker 3: there's something there's something to watch out for.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: We're going to find out what's going to happen if

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Speaker 3: you try to travel without a real id.

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Speaker 2: Do you even know what a real idea is? Some

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Speaker 2: probably don't.

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Speaker 3: There And there are these special credit cards, like super

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Speaker 3: special credit cards that you can get that offer super

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Speaker 3: special perks, and if you fly a lot, you might

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Speaker 3: want to know about that. How to look for deals.

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Speaker 3: There's kind of a strategy to look for deals.

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Speaker 2: We're going to learn about the fact.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to explain the statement that there are

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Speaker 3: no oxygen tanks on airplanes.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that?

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Speaker 3: And you might say, Bradley Jay, well, why would I

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Speaker 3: it pops down?

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Speaker 2: If there's no oxygen tanks? Well, we'll explain.

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Speaker 3: That airport etiquette. Good grief, Charlie Brown. It seems like

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Speaker 3: we've all forgotten we people forgot their manners when they

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Speaker 3: moved to online, to social media, and now people act

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Speaker 3: that people would not act that way when when someone

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Speaker 3: could confront you in person. Not true, people act that way.

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Speaker 3: But we've got to stop. And there certain airport etiquettes.

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Speaker 3: There's etiquettes, there's seating rules, as well. There's an aisle,

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Speaker 3: a middle, and a window, and each of those seats

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Speaker 3: has things, has perks and responsibilities that go with it

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Speaker 3: that you need to know. And I'm going to also

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Speaker 3: lead with this for you for everyone. Do you believe

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Speaker 3: the TSA is just theater? I myself I liked. I

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Speaker 3: don't mind the TSA at all.

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Speaker 2: But I have an.

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Speaker 3: Acquaintance who's thoroughly put out that the TSA makes her

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Speaker 3: jump through various hoops, pats her down every time, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: I myself pat me down. I don't care pat away.

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Speaker 3: As long as you pat everybody else down and get

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Speaker 3: those weapons and etc.

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Speaker 2: That's fine with me.

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Speaker 3: But there are those that say that this is just

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Speaker 3: safety theater. And of course there are those that say, boy,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm glad they're doing that. I love the TSA.

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Speaker 3: Where do you stand on that? And do you have

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Speaker 3: any interesting.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any.

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Speaker 3: Interesting anecdotes or stories regarding the TSA at the airport.

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Speaker 3: So we have our expert, our airplane geek. Indeed, his

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Speaker 3: name's Micah Ingber and he is part of the Airplane

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Speaker 3: Geeks podcast, and so let's welcome him. Hello, Micah, tell

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Speaker 3: me a little about you and tell me about the

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Speaker 3: Airplane Geeks podcast.

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Speaker 4: Bradley, thank you so much for inviting me. It's great

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Speaker 4: to talk to you. Great to be back on BZ.

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Speaker 4: And well, the Airplane Geek's podcast is. It's a weekly

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Speaker 4: audio program where the oldest aviation podcast that's in continuous operations.

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Speaker 4: It's two thousand and eight. We were doing podcasts, but

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Speaker 4: before people that what podcasts were.

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Speaker 3: And you had the right brothers on your podcast, I

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Speaker 3: think right, we did.

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Speaker 4: We did Rablee, but not Wilbur. He wouldn't come on.

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Speaker 4: But what we try to do is well, our slogan

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Speaker 4: is we try to educate and inform you, explore and

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Speaker 4: expand your passion for aviation, and entertain you a little

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Speaker 4: bit along the way. And we're just talking about commercial aviation,

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Speaker 4: military aviation, general aviation. And we often have different prominent

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Speaker 4: from from United Airlines, We've had the CEO of Serious Aircraft.

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Speaker 4: We've had all sorts of people on since two thousand

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Speaker 4: who's with the biggest law firm that handles aviation plaintiff

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Speaker 4: controls from their crashes, and she handled the Big seven

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Speaker 4: us now. So it's a fun program, and we've been

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Speaker 4: doing it for a long time and we do fun

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Speaker 4: things too. A couple of years ago, we did our

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Speaker 4: Favorite Aviation Films and listed over a hundred different aviation

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Speaker 4: films and the scary part was I had seen all

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Speaker 3: Let me jump in here and ask what was the

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Speaker 3: most popular. It has to be airplane, right, No.

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Speaker 4: Actually, the most popular, I think was Top Gun. But

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Speaker 4: List of favorites included the Great Waldo Pepper, which you

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Speaker 3: I bet a lot of them answered with esoteric answers

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Speaker 4: There were a lot of those. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 4: hear that. That's Airplane Geeks episode seven eighty three. And

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Speaker 2: Then eighty three people.

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Speaker 3: All right, Micah, we'll start with real ID because that's

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Speaker 3: something very important and relevant. A lot of people fly,

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Speaker 3: again to get home. They've been talking about real ID.

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Speaker 4: Real ID people are saying, I didn't know anything about this.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand what it means. It was proposed and

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Speaker 4: it's been in effect since well twenty years now, and

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Speaker 4: real ID system that meets certain requirements identification requirements, and

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Speaker 3: Does this seem like they could really do a full

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Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to just get a real ID.

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Speaker 3: My Friends Bradley Jay in for Dan tonight on Night's Side.

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Speaker 3: The number six one seven. If you'd like to answer

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Speaker 3: This is just theater. I wish they'd go away. Where

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Speaker 3: You paid money for that seat, like good hardcare, a

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Speaker 3: geeks dot com or an airplane Geeks podcast. Excuse me,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Micah Now, Bradley, if I may, Before I

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Speaker 4: Now these are the rules, just like the rules of

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Speaker 4: the trail. They're not written down. There's nobody that's going

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Speaker 4: to enforce them, but it's the way it's supposed to work.

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Speaker 4: The person that sits in the windows seat has control

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Speaker 4: of the shade. They decide if the shade is going

441
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Speaker 4: to be up and down. Now, if you're sitting next

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Speaker 4: to them, you could say, hey, I prefer the shade down.

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Speaker 4: Do you mind pulling it down? And they have every

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Speaker 4: right to say no. Or I really look like to

445
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Speaker 4: look out the window, would you leave it up? And

446
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Speaker 4: they have the right to say no. But that's the

447
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Speaker 4: window seat responsibility. Now, if you're sitting next to them

448
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Speaker 4: and you're in the middle seat. If you are in

449
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Speaker 4: a three seat configuration, middle seat is a most uncomfortable

450
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Speaker 4: seat on the plane. You got people on either side

451
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Speaker 4: of you. It's miserable. I try to avoid the middle

452
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Speaker 4: seat at all stages, but if I get it, I'm

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Speaker 4: entitled to both armress.

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Speaker 3: Did anybody know that? Do you have to tell them?

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, sir, I'm in the middle seat. I am

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Speaker 3: entitled to both armress and needs to be written down,

457
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Speaker 3: needs to be codified. Maybe you can have a little

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Speaker 3: business guard made up or something, but nobody knows that, do.

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Speaker 4: They They don't, But that's the way it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: And if it were me, I would say, you know,

461
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Speaker 4: I'm in the middle seat and these armrests are supposed

462
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Speaker 4: to be mine. Now I understand that you might want

463
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Speaker 4: to use it, and if I'm in the front of it,

464
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Speaker 4: you can use the back, but would you mind letting

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Speaker 4: me have it? And they if you're courteous, And we

466
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: don't have as much courtesy in this world as we

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Speaker 4: should these days. Typically people are pretty good about that.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes they won't be, and you might get into an argument,

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Speaker 4: and the airlines aren't going to These aren't airline rules.

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Speaker 4: These are traveler rules and this these are courtesy rules,

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Speaker 4: and we need more courtesy in this world.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now you're in the aisle seat, what do you get?

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Speaker 4: What do you have to the aisle seat which is

474
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Speaker 4: a cream seat because you can decide when you want

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Speaker 4: to get up and walk and stretch your legs. But

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Speaker 4: the aisle person is responsible to let the other people

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Speaker 4: out whenever they want to get up because they they're

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Speaker 4: the king of the isle. They have control over the aisle.

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Speaker 4: So if you sit in the aisle person sitting next

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Speaker 4: to you want to get up, you need to let

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Speaker 4: them out. Now. If you're a big guy like me,

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Speaker 4: that probably means I'm gonna have to get out of

483
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Speaker 4: my seat and stand up myself. But if you're you know,

484
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Speaker 4: fortunate enough to be smaller, you can probably just slip

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Speaker 4: to the side, move your legs to the side, and

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Speaker 4: even a big guy like me has been able to

487
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Speaker 4: get around some people like that.

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Speaker 2: I have a real beef with the rule.

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Speaker 3: I have one of a big beef with one of

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Speaker 3: the rules, and that's the window seat rule.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that rule. And let me explain.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the window seat person should be

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Speaker 3: the arbiter of whether the window stays up or down,

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Speaker 3: or the window shades stays up or down, because so

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Speaker 3: many other people are affected by that. There should be

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Speaker 3: a standing rule or something like this. If you know

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Speaker 3: above a certain altitude, should close the window. If there's

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Speaker 3: something interesting to see on the ground, say you're below

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Speaker 3: five thousand feet or something, okay, you can look out.

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Speaker 3: But if there's somebody that just has got the window open,

501
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Speaker 3: there's nothing to see but cloud cover and the sun

502
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: is burning a hole in your face, and you're trying

503
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Speaker 3: to watch a movie. It not only affects you, it

504
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Speaker 3: affects probably ten or twelve people in the general area

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Speaker 3: of that window. So I think the rules should be, Hey,

506
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Speaker 3: unless it's something to see, shut the window.

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Speaker 2: But that's not the way it is.

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Speaker 4: It's not the way it is, and I disagree with you.

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Speaker 4: I get the window because I'm looking out all the time.

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Speaker 4: The last time I flew Traine Geek, I don't turn

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Speaker 4: on the movies. I I'll listen to a podcast, I'll

512
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Speaker 4: listen to you, I'll watch you on YouTube. But I

513
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Speaker 4: got the window open, and I'm watching the moving map

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Speaker 4: and uh and and that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Clouds.

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Speaker 4: Last time I flew, I flew to London. I was

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Speaker 4: in a beautiful seven eighty seven flying NonStop from San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: and it was an overnight flight. And on the seven

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Speaker 4: eighty seven. I don't know if you knew this, Bradley,

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Speaker 4: but the flight attendants can control that there aren't any

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Speaker 4: windows shades. The flight attendant controls the darkness of the

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Speaker 4: lightness of the windows electronically. I love that they're dimmed

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Speaker 4: or brightened electronically, and they usually do them all at once.

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Speaker 4: But even at night, I could see out and see

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Speaker 4: the stars, and I could look down and I could

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Speaker 4: see ships. And I asked the flight attendant, because I

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Speaker 4: was at the window, is it possible for you to

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Speaker 4: be able to let me control my own shade? And

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Speaker 4: she said sure, And I looked out all night long.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because you are an airplane geek. You love flying folks,

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Speaker 3: Mike I, Micah and his pals, they don't care where

532
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Speaker 3: they go. The destination is, like he says, the journey

533
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: is the destination. They just want to fly, They just

534
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Speaker 3: want to be in the airplane, and sometimes, like your

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Speaker 3: friend Brian, will just go to an airport all the

536
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Speaker 3: ways like South Africa, just hanging around in the airport

537
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Speaker 3: and come home.

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Speaker 2: Am I correct?

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what he did. He did that in Singapore

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Speaker 4: several times. He flew from LA to San Francisco to Singapore.

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Speaker 4: The plane landed, the plane got turned around, ready to

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Speaker 4: go back in San Francisco. He got back on the

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Speaker 4: plane and flew back.

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Speaker 2: It's because he loves being in an airplane.

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Speaker 4: He loves he certainly does. And that trip that I

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Speaker 4: took to London that I just told you about, I

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Speaker 4: flew with my friend Brian, and we were supposed to

548
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Speaker 4: meet in Chicago. That didn't quite work out based on

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Speaker 4: the airlines, but we were able to work with the airline,

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Speaker 4: and so I left here Portland, Maine at six am

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Speaker 4: on one morning, flew to Newark to change planes to

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Speaker 4: fly to San Francisco to meet Brian, and then fly

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Speaker 4: all the way to London from there. So my journey

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Speaker 4: to London started in Portland, Maine, all in one day.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mike is going to have some more tips

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Speaker 3: tips on travel. But I have two rules that I

557
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: no actually one tip and one rule. My rule is

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Speaker 3: when it's boarding time, when they say okay, ro you

559
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: know area section C. When it's your turn to board,

560
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: you better have your act together. Everything you need better

561
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: be where it needs to be by that time. No

562
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: getting on the plane and fumbling around for two minutes,

563
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: two huge, long, very bad minutes while you're bumbling around

564
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: in your bag in the overhead compartment. Here's what you do.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to be a pro or even just

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Speaker 3: a considerate traveler. They make all kinds of travel vests

567
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Speaker 3: with a lot of pockets. Before you go, while you're

568
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: waiting around at the gate, you should ahead of time

569
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Speaker 3: know what you want, what you're gonna need. Maybe you

570
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: want some ear plugs, maybe you want some eye shades,

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Speaker 3: or your neck bellow or some medications.

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Speaker 2: Have them all on.

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Speaker 3: Your person in these little like a travel vest has

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Speaker 3: a bunch of pockets. Think about it, and don't you're

575
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: really causing a problem. You're gonna make the plane leave late.

576
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Speaker 2: Because you are bumbling around you in your carry on.

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00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Be cool.

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Speaker 3: You see your seat, say oh there's seat seventeen. D

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Speaker 3: boom up there, sit down and watch be quiet.

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Speaker 2: Just get out of the way.

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Speaker 4: I completely agree with you, Bradley. And you know, and

582
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: some people may say, I don't want to wear a vest,

583
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna look like a real geek. But you know what,

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00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: I often don't wear a vest, but I get a

585
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: travel blazer and they make those two you can get

586
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: them at lled with all those pockets, and you look sharp.

587
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: And you should look sharp. I think when you go

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00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: into an airport and in front of all those people

589
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: and everything in the pocket, you're not gate lice. You

590
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: wait for your row to be called, and then you

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00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: go up to the gate. Gate lice is a technical term,

592
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: or those people little congreg congregate around the gate when

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00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: they haven't been called yet. You get on the plane,

594
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: you put your carry on in the overhead bag, you

595
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: sit down, you buckle up, and that's it. Did you say, everybody,

596
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Speaker 4: let everybody else board?

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Speaker 2: Gate lice?

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00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: Gate lice, that's the term that we call people. You know,

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Speaker 4: you've seen people and they may be in row fifty

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Speaker 4: four and they're calling row you know twenty, and they

601
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Speaker 4: just hang it out of the gate walking away for

602
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Speaker 4: everybody else. Stay seated, stay out of the way until

603
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Speaker 4: until you your row is called. You know, syd away

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Speaker 4: with people.

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Speaker 3: Okay, both Michah and I have a couple tips coming up.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go first after this break, just so I

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Speaker 3: don't forget. But it is a complete, complete game changer.

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00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: There's a cheap piece of paraphernality you can get that

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00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: will make your trip so much better, unbelievably better. I

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Speaker 3: can't think of a bigger improvement that you can make

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00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: to your flight on your own. It requires very little

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Speaker 3: money for.

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Speaker 2: What you get.

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Speaker 3: It's once you do it, once you try this, you

615
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: will never go back. And Micah also has some news

616
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: about well some information about these, particularly credit cards that

617
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: have crazy, crazy advantages. So we'll get to both of

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Speaker 3: those after this.

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Speaker 2: On w b Z.

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. On w Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 3: We continue with the airline travels tips tricks with Micah

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Speaker 3: from the Airplane Geek's podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go first. I have a really great, great tip.

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Speaker 3: You folks have. You're all aware of Apple AirPods. They're

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: the little podgy stick in your air to listen to music. However, Apple,

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00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: and this is important, Apple Pro two, not regular Apple two.

627
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: Apple Pro two maybe above Apple Pro two, but at

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Speaker 3: least the level of Apple Pro two has noise cancelation

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Speaker 3: in it that is unbelievable. You can have no you

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00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: can switch it from zero noise cancelation to adaptive noise cancellation,

631
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: which is really good for concerts and stuff, and if

632
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: you want, you can do complete noise cancelation and it

633
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Speaker 3: practically it cuts up ninety percent of the noise.

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Speaker 2: It is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So that's a very They seem very expensive, and they

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00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: are for AirPods AirPods, but what they do for you

637
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Speaker 3: is fantastic.

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00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 2: And if you don't lose them, you can use them

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00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: over and over again.

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00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: One danger when you're in an airplane is that you

641
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: go to sleep with them on and you move your

642
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: head and one falls.

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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: Out and goes under the seat. You'll never get it again.

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00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: They also make these little kind of little junior lanyards

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00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: that go on them so you won't lose them. Now

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: to take it up a notch, Shannon, my wife is

647
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: real good at finding gadgets that are super helpful and

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, she does everything.

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Speaker 2: Now I don't do anything on that trip, she just

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Speaker 2: does it all. She found this dongle which you place

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Speaker 2: into the mini.

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Speaker 3: Plug splot that you would usually plug in your earphones

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Speaker 3: into the TV screen the movie screen to watch movies.

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Speaker 3: And what that does is connects. It can connect to

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Speaker 3: these noise canceling air pods. So what you have is

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Speaker 3: a practically silent airplane and crystal beautiful sound from the

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00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: movie It is another world. A lot of the tiredness

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00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: from going on a flight, the fatigue is from big

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00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: noise for seven hours, and that removes it.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's my offering.

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Speaker 3: Now, how about you, Mike, what do you have that cool,

662
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: cool credit card?

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00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Talk about that?

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Speaker 4: Well? At first of all, I was going to say

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00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: that those Bluetooth dongles are wonderful, and you're right to be.

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: Those wonderful noise canceling headphones of any kind really make

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Speaker 4: the flight much more pleasant. And I love the fly

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00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: and I love the sound, but it really relaxes you. Now,

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Speaker 4: what I was going to talk about with credit cards

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Speaker 4: is a lot of people like to get airline credit cards.

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Speaker 4: At first, I want to say that before you get

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Speaker 4: a credit card, I firm believer use it responsibly. I

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00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: never use a credit card unless I have the money

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00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: in the bank. I never pay interest on it. And

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Speaker 4: I'm not condoning people using credit cards just to buy

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00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: something on a credit card, but if you're going to

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00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: use a credit card, you might as well get one

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00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: that offers rewards. And a lot of people will get

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: an airline credit card, a Delta credit card, a United

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00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: credit card, a Southwest credit card, and some of those

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00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: do offer benefits, but they're gonna collect points on them,

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00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: and you can only use them on Delta or on

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00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 4: United or on Southwest. And yeah, there are certain families

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00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: within those groups that you can use it on. But

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00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: your best VET is a credit card that has what's

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00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: known as transferable points that you can use on any airline,

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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: a bank credit card like Chase or Capital One or Annex,

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00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: and some of these cards they charge you an annual fee.

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Speaker 4: But I have never believed in those kinds of cards

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Speaker 4: and paying a fee for a card until I got

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00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: one personally that I'm paying a very large fee on.

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00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 4: But it gives me so many benefits that I'm getting

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00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: that feedback.

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Speaker 3: Then this is something that might be great. Describe the

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00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: fee and the benefits.

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Speaker 4: Well, this particular card gave me one hundred and twenty

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: thousand points if I spent six thousand dollars on it

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00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: in the first three months. I had to buy something

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00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: that was going to be that much money, and so

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00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 4: I was able to use it. I got the one

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00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty thousand points, which is worth the nine

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00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: hundred dollars a year fee because I can fly first

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00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: class if I sorted out the right way almost any

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00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: place I want to. For one hundred and twenty thousand points,

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00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: it cost me far more than nine hundred dollars.

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00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: So basically, you're paying the fee of nine hundred bucks,

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00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: which will allow you to get what is probably a

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00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: twelve thousand dollars flight. You know, first class costs a

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00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 3: lot of money exactly now.

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Speaker 4: It also gives me a three hundred dollars credit when

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00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: I bought it. Whenever you buy a ticket three hundred

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: dollars in credits when you buy an airline ticket, So

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00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: even if you don't get the full points you paid

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00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: nine hundred dollars, you get three hundred dollars back when

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00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: you buy a ticket on a flight, So that was

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00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: only cost you six hundred dollars.

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00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: Every time you play it. Buy a ticket on a

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00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: flight every time, one.

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Speaker 4: Time three hundred dollars a year and time, right, one time,

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00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: every year, one time, So it gives you that travel credit.

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00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: It gives me a five hundred dollars credit with certain

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: hotels two hundred and fifty dollars every.

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Six months months, okay, right.

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Speaker 4: It gives me every five years. It gives me one

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00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty dollars I sorry, one hundred twenty dollars

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00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 4: every four years for my global entry or tsa PreCheck payment.

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00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: It gives me a Priority Pass membership, which would normally

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00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: be a priority pass. Is a lounge system, and also

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00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: certain lounges that they're associated with a credit card that

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00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: would cost me four hundred and sixty nine dollars for

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Speaker 4: the year by itself. So I'm getting a lot of

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00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: benefits with it. Plus every time I use the card,

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Speaker 4: I'm collecting more points. When I use it at a restaurant,

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00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: I get three times if I for every dollar I spend,

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00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 4: I get three times of points. When I use it

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00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: for buying flights, I get four times a point. So

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: I'm accumulating points all the time and it ends up

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00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: being a big benefit for me, especially if you fly

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00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: a lot. But even if you only use it for

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00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: the first year, get to accumulate the one hundred and

741
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: twenty thousand points, pay the fee for the first year

742
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: you got the points. Before you cancel it. You can

743
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: go to the cheaper version of the card, which is

744
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: ninety five dollars a year, keep the points and use

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: them the next year if you can't use them the

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00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: first year.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty complicated.

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00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: But if you fly a lot and I know that

749
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: you're not pushing this card, it's what you're trying to

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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: say is hey, sometimes it may be better for you

751
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: to get a card that's good on any airline. It

752
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: doesn't restrict you to one or two airlines or their family.

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00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: And do your research and find out what's going to

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00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 4: work best for you. No, I'm not talking to any

755
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: particular card at all. I found one that worked for me.

756
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: You need to find one that works for you. But

757
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: if you find the right one with the right tools,

758
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: you can get some incredible deals for very little money.

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Speaker 2: Boys, here is great to talk to you, Michaeh.

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Speaker 3: As always, we didn't even it's everything that we planned on,

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Speaker 3: but that that means things went very well.

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Speaker 2: So I thank you, thanks a lot and all the

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: best to you.

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00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: And you know after a while, as aviation info and

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00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: incidents pile up.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep people up to date with it and have

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00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: you back.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Thanks so much, Bradley. Always great to be with

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Speaker 4: you in Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: All right, one minute till the top of the news

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Speaker 2: and all. What's coming up next? Well, I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Word person, a lot of your word people, and we're

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Speaker 3: going to well it's pretty This is a very difficult

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00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: one to explain what it's going to be without actually

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00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: doing it. But let me give you this little teaser.

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00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: Do you know what an egg corn is? An egg

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00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: corn is a is a type of phrase and it

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00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with eggs or corn. And there

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00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: are a bunch of these words called egg corns, and

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00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: we're going to learn those words, some of them, and

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00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: words from other categories.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on WBZ News Radio ten thirty