1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Tonight we will crown a national champion in the NCAA tournament. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that, we will of course pick that 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: game coming up here for show me the money. Congratulations 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: by the way, Dave, who got to win number fifty two? 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: You picked, uh, successfully picked Michigan. Now, it was only 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: a point and a half if I remember correctly on Friday. Yeah, 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Michigan was only favorite by point in a half. H 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: and you felt pretty early in that game, all right, Well, 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Michigan's off to a big lead. Maybe Arizona makes some shots, 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: never never came back. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: Just I mean, Arizona couldn't make any shots now, and 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: they and Michigan was really good. I mean Michigan when 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: you look at what they've done in the in the 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, they had a I believe they've had over 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: ninety points every single game. So Yukon has championship DNA 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: and a championship coach. Can they keep that thing close 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and then find a way to steal it at the end. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: I don't know, I really don't know. 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: You're not really giving me much information on your pick. 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly why I said it. 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: All right, I was going to see if I could 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: get a little bit of something. 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: Aren't you fourteen behind him? Here? Well? 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Yes, I am officially fourteen weekly wins behind Dave. 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: So listen, it's not that. 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: What is that four months in a little So if 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't play and you hit every single one. 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: If they just leaves for four months, Yeah, so we 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: go to May to June, to July to August, you'll 31 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: still be behind week in August. 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll come back and I'd find a way to 33 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: mess it up. Yep, more than likely. Our Kaite tournament 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: updates are presented by Infinity, Dave Smith, motors low prices 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that are hard to beat, a Ramjeep, GMC, and Chevrolet. 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: We'll get into a little bit of conversation about the 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Rockies here in a second. Actually, I'll tell you what 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I want to do it now. We'll get to the 39 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: fun stat about the Broncos wide receivers in just a beat. 40 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: So Rockies, as you mentioned on a one game. 41 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Heater, Dave, and you know that they've been losing these 42 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: games by one score? Why are you looking at me 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: like that? Do you know where I'm going with this? 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Baseball people call it run sorry. 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: One run run that's why you're looking at me that way. 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: I score one run, so do we. 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: I know it's professional sports, so this is probably gonna 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: make you grimace a little bit. 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: You certainly you're not taking me down the moral victory road, 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: are you really? 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Well? See, they were so bad last year, right, one 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: hundred nineteen losses. So I'm saying, do we grade the Rockies, 54 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: especially early on in this season, by a little bit 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: of a bell curve, because the fact is, yes, you 56 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you went one to three, right, you went one to 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: two against the Phillies over the weekend. But they do 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: play a really close game on Saturday, and they've they've 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: lost three one score games one run, sorry, one run 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: games to Miami. I'm not saying they don't they don't 61 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: count as wins, but I'm not upset about the way 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: they're playing baseball right now, because I am grading at baseball. 63 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: Those are two victories. 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: Even for you, that was artfully done, because those are 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: two separate categories that you, realizing your argument was not 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: going to hold water, quickly changed in the midst of 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: the stream. Who sang the song don't change horses in 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: the middle of a stream, That's not true. 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 3: No, they they've played better. 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: Baseball, but there are no moral victories, no moral of it. 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: What if the Rockies win, Let's just say, and I 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: think they'll be better, right, I think they're going to 73 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: go over I think in Vegas it was like fifty 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: three and a half. I think they're going to be 75 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: going to be better than that. What if they win 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: let's say fifty seven games, and then there's seventeen there's 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: twenty one games other than those fifty seven wins that 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: they lose by a single run. Do you extrapolate that 79 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: and add the twenty one of the fifty seven and 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, well, really, it's kind of like 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: seventy eight wins. 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: We just talked to Walker Montfort on Friday, and he said, 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: you wanted to be noticeably better? Right, But I don't 84 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: think but even he acknowledges not just about wins and losses, 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: it's about noticeably in the right trajectory because. 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: He has to say that. 87 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would agree with him in that case. 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: I'd be like, listen, you know, fifty seven wins and 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: then there was a good you know, a dozen or 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: to twenty games that you probably could have had, you 91 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: should have had. 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: You want your team to look better, appreciably better, yes, right, 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: but there are no moral victories in professional sports because 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: you play close you're being negative. 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: I am not being negative. I'm being realistic. 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to have a positive conversation about the trajectory 97 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of the team. 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: And these one just talking about the fact that they're on 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: a one game heater. 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: That would be accurate Day one on Sunday four to one, 101 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: Moniac had two home runs, right. 102 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: Got good? 103 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: They've had ex I mean, they've had really good starting 104 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: pitching for the most part this entire early part of 105 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: the season. 106 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: So there are. 107 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Positives to point out, but the bottom line is you're 108 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: judged on how many games you win as opposed to 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: how many games you lose. 110 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: It was play to win the game, you coach edwards, 111 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 5: especially in baseball, and there's so many games, it's just 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 5: how many did you win and how many did you lose. 113 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: You don't look back at the end of the season 114 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 5: and think about the one run games you lost. You 115 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 5: look at the wins and you look at the losses. 116 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: I mean I think that you know. 117 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: Football's I think a little bit different. 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: There's a little bit of a different discussion, the moral 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 5: victory discussion, because there's only seventeen of them. And if 120 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 5: it's the Super Bowl champions coming in here and you 121 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 5: take them to the wire and it's like you lose by, 122 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: you can feel a little bit better about it. 123 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: But in baseball, got you gotta the Rockies have. 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: To find a way to win, to get the fans 125 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: back on their side and to feel like there's progress 126 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 5: being made. 127 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I agree with that. 128 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think, yes, pragmatical games just 129 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: like if you are noticeably better, because there's a lot 130 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: of metrics, especially in baseball, that we can measure that with, right, 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: that are not just wins and losses. And I know 132 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: that people will appoint to the wins and losses, and 133 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: then I understand from a pragmatic like are you better 134 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: or not people can draw that line. But I think 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things to look at. Dave even 136 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: mentioned them their pitching has been better. You obviously got 137 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: to get a little bit better with your hitting lists, 138 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: especially timely hitting, because they actually could have won that game. 139 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: You like that progress of the team, Yeah, right, but 140 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: they're still I mean, in professional sports, guys lose their jobs, 141 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: and they get hired based on how many games they 142 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: win and how many games they lose. 143 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Now, if you take over like. 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: Last year and you win sixty games this year, they're 145 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: probably not going to make a skipper change, right because 146 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: some of these young cats have gained some traction. So 147 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: you can like the progress of the team, but there's 148 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: no moral victories in terms of they only lost by 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: one run. Were you an orange slice kid when you 150 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: played sports as as a little leaguer? 151 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: That's right. 152 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: Never mind, you didn't play sports. You played you were 153 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: you were a golfer. 154 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: I played some soccer, little league soccer and little league back. 155 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but that's different in little league, like everybody gets in. 156 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: Everybody gets an orange slice. You know, a guy, there's 157 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: really good. I mean, that was a great shot and 158 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: went over the goal like by ten feet. But you 159 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: know what, you hug your daughter, the one that doesn't 160 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: like you, and say, you know what, honey, that was 161 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: a great Really you make great contact with the ball. 162 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm all for that stuff. We're talking about professional sports. 163 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: You're talking about the team that was the worst in baseball, 164 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: almost historically the worst in baseball. I understand that and 165 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: now you're digging out of that. Okay, well, I feel 166 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: like like I feel like we can ring a. 167 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: Here's what I'm saying. 168 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: You're not going to celebrate ever for the rest of 169 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: your life a one run loss and say, well, damn, 170 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: we were close. 171 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: That is prohibit That is prohibited in the studio. I 172 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: just want to know it's prohibited. I am the optimist 173 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: of this conversation. 174 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 5: You want to celebrate losses because the metrics look better, 175 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: but no, yes, but nobody, no fan is looking at 176 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 5: like the metrics looking better, but feeling good about a 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 5: lot just prohibited. 178 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: And if it continues, or should it rear its ugly head, 179 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: then we will refer to the pantsed incident once again. 180 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Cay, I tell you about advanced analytics that video there 181 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: you go? 182 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: Who is that? I don't know? 183 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: That was me impression of yeah, that's. 184 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: Right, that's what it was. Let me hear it again. 185 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: Can I tell you about advanced analytics? 186 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. That's not bad, it's pretty good. 187 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: Oh god, Okay, well I will I will refrain, but 188 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: I will quietly celebrate. 189 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: You gotta be like if you're you know, your wife 190 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: won't even like I'm sorry, your wife won't even like it. 191 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: She won't. She just texted me. She's like, I support this. 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: No she didn't hit Oh the hell she did. She's 193 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: more competitive than you are. 194 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: Like, when you fail at something at home, do you 195 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: expect your wife to give you some bits of encouragement 196 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 5: on the things you did well before you failed? 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: If I failed out at one hundred and nineteen times, 198 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: then yeah, maybe she might. 199 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: They failed one hundred nineteen times last year. Yeah. So 200 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: here's the deal. 201 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: Okay, leave, leave the seat up and pee on the 202 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: rim one hundred and nineteen days in a row, and 203 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: then the next day, make sure the seat is down 204 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: and there's no pee on the rim. And I'll bet 205 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: she doesn't say, boy, honey, that is absolutely great. 206 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: I love you, David Hobby. I bet she doesn't. 207 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: She probably won't. No, nor anyways, I just wanted to 208 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: tell you where I was coming from. Doesn't mean we 209 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: have to. 210 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: Agree with on it. 211 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: I told you we wouldn't not have it in the studio. Okay, 212 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: I'll keep it to myself. I want to ask you, 213 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: and the text lines of course destroying me for it. 214 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Fair enough. Well, you gotta find it. You got to 215 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: seriously go to is there a Walmart close to you? 216 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: Go to Walmart because I saw this online today. 217 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: Go to Walmart, and I think it's like the fifth row. 218 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: After you walk in to the left, they're they're having 219 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: a sale on competitive pills. Buy yourself, like a couple 220 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: of jars of them. Load up on them. Okay, with 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: water gobble those things. I mean, let's go. What are 222 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: we doing. 223 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: I can't say enough nice things about Walmart, their prices, 224 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: the design of their stores. Competitive pills. I don't need them, 225 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: but you do. The Broncos don't need them. No, but again, 226 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: they could probably get a good deal on it because 227 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: of the relationship. 228 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: That's true. That's just that's true. They don't need no. Okay. 229 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Highest percentage of receptions for first in or touchdown in 230 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, highest percentage of receptions for first don 231 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: or touchdown in twenty twenty five. 232 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: The Broncos now have two guys in the top ten 233 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: of that. 234 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: The entire league, Jalen Wattle yep and Courtland Sudden Okay, 235 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: two of the top five. 236 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: Number five was Jalen Wattle. Courtland Sudden was number seven. 237 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: A little surprised on this one though, because Devanta Adams 238 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: is number one. 239 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: Eighty five percent. 240 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Eighty five percent of his percentage of receptions went for 241 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: a first and er touchdown. Maybe it's because Pookin coua 242 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: because he was number one in the league in first downs, right, 243 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: and of course he had a lot of touchdowns as well. 244 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull that up here. He had a lot 245 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: of touchdowns. 246 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: Devonte had even more touchdowns but not so. 247 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 5: Many catches, and so I think his catches were maybe 248 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 5: that's part of what it is, more sparse, but they 249 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: were bigger. 250 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he only had sixty catches, but he had 251 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns. Yeah, to your point, Okay, so maybe that's 252 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: part of what it is. Whereas Pookin Nkua had one 253 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six targets and he had eighty first downs, 254 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: which is eighty Yeah, led the league has got to 255 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: give himself straightened up. Oh no downs, that is he's 256 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a wild man, hey for a moment. Yeah, 257 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: because I asked you a few months ago would you 258 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: extend him? And you said, without a doubt? Are you 259 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: having some reservations now? 260 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: No? But I mean he's in a rehab So if. 261 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: You're the rams, are you having reservation? 262 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: Okay, but I want to see I'm not going to 263 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: extend him until he's out, and I'm gonna they'll they'll 264 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: be heartfelt conversations. I'm sure to kind of see where 265 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: his head's at. And you've got to there are some 266 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: guys that they just need some guidance and some guard 267 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: rails and they need some help to kind of navigate 268 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: through the through life in general. But in this case, 269 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: through the early part of his NFL career, he might 270 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: be one of them. 271 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some guys who you know, are going through 272 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 5: issues off the field or have addiction issues or whatever, 273 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 5: and they're not they're not fun to be around, their 274 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 5: bad locker room guys, whatever. But guys like poking a 275 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 5: cool Everybody loves pook Up. He's someone who has great 276 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 5: energy and they and you know, he's endeared himself to 277 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 5: the entire organization. 278 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: They want to help him. They want to help him 279 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: figure it out, you. 280 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 5: Know, because he's he's such a great addition to that team, 281 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: to the locker room. The coaches love him, they love 282 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 5: his work ethic, his story. They want to help him 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 5: get healthy, right, and so they're going to invest that 284 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 5: time and that love and support to get him right. 285 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: So last season, so as I mentioned, Jaylen Wattle number 286 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: five on this list and Courtland Sumburbs not number seven, 287 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: Jaylen Wattle seventy five percent of his receptions went for 288 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: a first down or a touchdown. 289 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: Courtland Sudden seventy point three. 290 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: There are no other teammates on this top ten list, 291 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: like including Jamar Chase, like he's not in this list. 292 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: T Higgins is number nine. 293 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: Romeo DVEs is six, Jamison Williams is number four, George 294 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: Picktts's number three. So this is the only inmates. 295 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: Well, that shows you that there's only room for one 296 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 5: of those guys on your team. And so next year 297 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: both of those guys won't be in the top ten 298 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: of that stat which one will fair enough? 299 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: So that's that's one question. And then the other question 300 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: is is. 301 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: How does that sort of help buie the other one 302 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: in this case, like like what what does that ability 303 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: I guess sort of dictate to or allow for what 304 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: this receiver room is going to look like, Yeah. 305 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting, it's gonna it's gonna be dictated 306 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: by the defenses that they play. 307 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: And how they view those guys and who they view 308 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: is the. 309 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: Bigger threat, and who they try to take away, and 310 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: who Bo has a stronger connection with, and who Davis 311 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 5: Webb believes in more. There's a lot of factors there, right. 312 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: You know, Jalen Watall played in a very different system 313 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 5: uh than Courtland Sutton. Jalen Wanna played in a run 314 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: first system and the run action, the play action stuff 315 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: was was really very advanced in Miami. 316 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: They look to run. 317 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 5: First, but the play action stuff off that the keeper 318 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: game as running free, uh in a way that you 319 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 5: didn't really see here. 320 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: So how does that translate to this new system? 321 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 5: How does Jalen Wattles skill set and role translate to 322 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: the new system. Clearly he's going to take some targets 323 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 5: away from Courtland Sutton, you know. So I don't see 324 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton necessarily. Well, he's not going to be the 325 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: number one go to guy all the time when the 326 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 5: chips are down, and so that might get spread around. 327 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean it won't be a more effective offense. 328 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: It will be, but the stats might not indicate that. 329 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: Right. 330 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: As long as they're scoring more points and putting on 331 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 5: more touchdowns, I don't think it matters, but it's going 332 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 5: to be who's number one, who's number two, and it's 333 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: probably going to be a week to week thing. 334 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: So Corland a sudden. 335 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Last year, Dave had seventy four catches, seven touchdowns and 336 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: fifty two first downs. As we're talking about the percentages, 337 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle had sixty four catches, he had six touchdowns, 338 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: and forty eight of them went for first down. So 339 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: obviously very all, very prolific. Who do you think would 340 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: be if I as I tell you that right now? 341 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle was fifth in the league overall and of 342 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: course let his team in first downs, percentage, first downs, 343 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: some touchdowns. Courtland was number one for the team last 344 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: year for the Broncos. Is that going to remain the case? Well, 345 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: Cortland the guy that gets the predominant first downs in 346 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns or do you think that's gonna shift? 347 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't think it matters. I think I 348 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: think the arrival of Jalen Waddle will help the entire team, 349 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: and I think it will help Courtland, and I think 350 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Courtland can help Jalen Wattle too. Right when you get 351 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: a guy that you know, you looking the other side, 352 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: and you can say, Okay, that that's a dude. So 353 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: I got to elevate my game. And I think Waddle 354 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: will probably have an appreciation once he gets into camp 355 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: and he sees, you know, how physically imposing Courtland is 356 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: and some of the catches he can make and how 357 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: he leads, and I just think it's gonna be I mean, 358 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be good for both players. It's 359 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: gonna be a challenge for the for the rest of 360 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: the room to figure out, like, Okay, I better come 361 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: to camp ready to go because I'm not. I'm not 362 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: ready to give you mine yet. And that'll be interesting, 363 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: I think, to watch and see how it all plays out. 364 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, are they going to because I've 365 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: heard I've heard conjecture now that this season it'll be 366 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Waddle in Courtland on the field most of the time 367 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: when they go to eleven personnel and another receiver will 368 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: come in. But Jalen Waddle and Courtland Sudden are going 369 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: to play most of the time. And I'm thinking, yeah, 370 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: that makes sense, makes sense to me, But that's not 371 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: really how Sean Payton has done it in his career. 372 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: So I want to see how this whole thing is managed. 373 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: Also, you know, the Broncos led the league in attempts 374 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: passing attempts last year. 375 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: That was the addition of Jalen Wattle. 376 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 5: Gonna attempt you to do even more throwing and even 377 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: less running. 378 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: Would you want that? Absolutely not. 379 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 5: The Broncos need to run the football more, in my opinion, 380 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: and they need to establish that and it needs to 381 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: be back and forth. I mean, you know, one depends 382 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 5: on the other. 383 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 3: They did. 384 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 5: They haven't necessarily upgraded the tight end room with more, 385 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: you know, fearsome point of attack blockers. You got the 386 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 5: same guys there. You got Evan Ingram, who is probably 387 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: still going to have a pretty big role in the offense. 388 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: You would think Adam Tauppman' still out there. We know 389 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 5: who his limitations are, and so it's not like all 390 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: of a sudden this is gonna Well it's hard to 391 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: tell what Davis Webb philosophically is going to do to 392 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: change this offense. But my opinion is that you have 393 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 5: to run the football more more deliberately, and that's only 394 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: going to open things up for these receivers. But I 395 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: don't what I don't want to see is them just 396 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: airing it out, you know, and think and thinking that 397 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 5: that's what they got to do to win football games. 398 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 5: When you know, if you look at the trajectory of 399 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: the NFL and the way it's it's changed, these the 400 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: running teams, the teams that established the run and lean 401 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 5: on the run, they're the ones who are there in 402 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: the end. And you look at the Super Bowl and 403 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 5: that's indicative of that. 404 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: So they the Broncos were nineteenth and rushing attempts last year, 405 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, first in passing attempts, but the 406 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: year before when they had Javonte Williams here, they were thirteenth. 407 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: It feels like if JK. 408 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Dobbins was remained healthy for the rest of the year, 409 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: they might have been a top ten rush. 410 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right. 411 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: So is that a well we don't think RJ. Harvey 412 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: is getting it done? Is that an acknowledgment that they 413 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: didn't like the rest of the running back ruing? What 414 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: does that tell you that we all believe they would 415 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: have been a top ten rushing team, maybe not a 416 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: top number one passing attempt team, but a top ten 417 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: rushing team. 418 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: But it completely fell off to where you were bottom 419 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: through the league. 420 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think it speaks to why they 421 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: were high and bringing JK back. He's a productive, really 422 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: good running back in this league. 423 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's an elite running back in the league. 424 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 6: His thing. 425 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: We've talked about it, it's been well chronicled case stay healthy. 426 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: But when you lose a guy like that, you have 427 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: to go back and chart. After the injury he sustained 428 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: in the Raider game, you'd have to go back and 429 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: chart did their rushing attempts per game drop off? Certainly 430 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: the efficiency of the running game took a hit. And yeah, 431 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: I think it speaks to a how good Dobbins is 432 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: b the fact that RJ was a rookie and it's 433 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: just a different it's a different deal. He doesn't see 434 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: things the way Dobbins did. He doesn't he hasn't yet 435 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: learned to sort of contort his body. 436 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 437 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Dobbins is a bigger, more physical player. 438 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: For sure. 439 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: RJ has excellent hands, good in the passing game. But 440 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: it's you know, there are very few teams that if 441 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: your if your lead running back is out, that your 442 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: running game is going to be as good. 443 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: With the second guy. 444 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: Second guy is a pro NFL player may eventually be 445 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: a great player. Maybe maybe a handful of teams to 446 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: their second guy is that guy, but everybody else there's. 447 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: A drop off well and not. And they are high 448 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 4: on RJ. 449 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Harvey as far as what they think he can do 450 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: into year two, but the drop off feels like especially 451 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: with JK. 452 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: Dobbins. 453 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: And I don't mean he disrespect by this because I 454 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: have love JK. 455 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: Dobbins. 456 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 4: I love what he does for the locker room. I 457 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: love his ability when he's on the field. 458 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: But I think I echo with a lot of Broncos 459 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: fans are saying, is you got to have another option there? 460 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: If it is that significant of a drop off, don't 461 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: you think like we're not talking about Hey, it's Saquon 462 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: Barkley and then yeah, there's gonna be a drop off 463 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: because that's saque freaking Barkley. You take any of the 464 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: top running backs in the league right now, and you'd say, well, yeah, 465 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: if it's if it's top running back, to the next guy, sure, 466 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: But JK. 467 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: Dobbins, I mean, I guess he was top five. 468 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: But he has not been historically like thought of as 469 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: one of those premier running backs. He's a guy that 470 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: like is very good when he's on the field, but 471 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: not when he's not. So then do you need to 472 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: have elevated ability there with somebody behind. 473 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: Him, Yes, you do. But I would disagree that JK. 474 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: Dobbins has not been thought of as an elite running 475 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: back when he's healthy. I think anybody who's really looked 476 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: at him and he's listen, he's been hurt. 477 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: I understand that. But when that. 478 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: Guy plays, he to me is a top seven or 479 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: eight running back in the league. 480 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 3: I mean that's how good I think he is now. 481 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: And he also brings the juice to this team and 482 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: I think they missed that a little bit as well. 483 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean they've got I mean, who. 484 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: Knows in the draft are they going to try to, 485 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, find a complimentary running back. I don't think 486 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: they're done in the running back room as of now. Yes, 487 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: it's the one two punch that they like, that they favor. 488 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: And when JK. 489 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 5: Dobbins was the lead back, he was getting what fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, 490 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 5: eighteen carries a game, only got to twenty once, and 491 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 5: then when he went down and R. J. Harvey became 492 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 5: the lead back, he was getting similar numbers of carries, 493 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: but he didn't have the two to the one two anymore. Right, 494 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: And so the Broncos and Sean Payton are never going 495 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 5: to be the bell cow back who gets thirty carries 496 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 5: a game. It requires them both to be Healthyck, he's. 497 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: An astroscote up here at the top of They are 498 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: very excited about that getting a series underway at six 499 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: o'clock as our coverage six forty his first pitch. Congratulations 500 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: to Michael don't call me Mike Malone, the new head coach. 501 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: Of n C I was when I saw that, I 502 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: was like, wait what, I was surprised. I mean, good 503 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: for him. I've always thought Michael Malone was was a 504 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: good coach, really good coach. Now there's going to be 505 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: an adjustment period, I would think going from the NBA. 506 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: He was the Nuggets coach for ten seasons, I mean 507 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: his entire career. I believed him spent in the NBA, 508 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: believe as an assistant or head coach. So now you're 509 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: it's not like North Carolina didn't have any expectations. You know, 510 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: get us back to the top of the ACC, beat 511 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: Duke twice and win two or three games in the 512 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: tournament next year, good luck. 513 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 5: You wonder if there were any NBA opportunities out there 514 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 5: for him? I mean, and he's choosing. I mean, he's 515 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 5: like built, He's going to be Bill Belichick's colleague. 516 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: That's right. He's interesting. 517 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: A couple X pros with championships under their belt going 518 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 5: to un. 519 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to expand the doorways to both those 520 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: guys into a room. 521 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 3: I know. I say this. 522 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 4: It's to today's point and a little bit of yours 523 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: as well. 524 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: Managing pro game versus college is obviously different. But but 525 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: you wonder, as we see the dynamics shifting with Nil, 526 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: that you're going to be treating these players more like 527 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 1: pros going forward, because it is about money, it's not 528 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: just about love of the game and sticking around. But 529 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: also you know, you're you're building a team that's constantly 530 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: in flux, like who's who's on your roster this year 531 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: could be vastly different by next year. 532 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 533 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 5: And in the college game, though, the coach is like 534 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: the star a lot of times, yeah, and not not 535 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 5: the case in the NBA. 536 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: Oh, then Michael Malone will fit. 537 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: He is the star that the guys are going to 538 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: be gone in a year or two. 539 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 4: It's always about him. 540 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, exactly, So maybe that's a perfect gig for. 541 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm taking all these shots, Daves. You don't want to 542 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: jump Indio. 543 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Nope, because usually if I start taking shots of Michael Malone, 544 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, come on. 545 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 5: He was great, he was a great coach. Here, yeah 546 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 5: he looked down and just say say what you want 547 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: to say here. You want a championship for Denver? 548 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: He did, He won a championship. 549 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: He did, And it's just framed by the way that 550 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: things ended, that's all. I don't like the way they ended. 551 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: I don't like What didn't you like about Malone? I didn't. 552 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: I didn't like the power dynamics. 553 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: I think he's for people that might just be tuning 554 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: in and we'd like to keep them more than just 555 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. 556 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: I didn't like the way he treated Calvin Booth in 557 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: the way out. Calvin Booth was trying to build a 558 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: roster based on the current dynamics of weight. 559 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Well, maybe maybe you just side with Calvin Booth and 560 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: there's plenty of other people that side with Michael Malone. 561 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: Fine, then they're wrong. 562 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: Fine, what maybe not Okay, maybe not. 563 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: They don't understand basketball then, so it's strictly about the 564 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: way he treated Calvin Booth. 565 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: You just get a little snooty Troy Aikman junior, Troy 566 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: Aikman junior, they don't understand basketball. 567 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 4: Calvin Booth is right. My Malone was wrong. 568 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: But here he is. 569 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: He gets a chance to be a broadcaster for a year, 570 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: pretty media for one. 571 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm asking for a friend. What's Calvin Booth doing now? 572 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: Is he back in the league. 573 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: No, but execs don't usually get many opportunities second go round, 574 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: unless it's going to be I don't know. 575 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: I'd be interesting to see what Calvin Booth ends. Something 576 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: he'll land somewhere, I would think, yeah, before we get 577 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: to say, oh, I don't know, I forgot. I just 578 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: like the Malone. 579 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Malone's not perfect, no coaches. I did 580 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: like the fact that he held guys accountable. I'm sure 581 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: he irritated some of his players from time to time, 582 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: and yes, maybe retrospectively, should have played the bench a 583 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: little bit more. Didn't like the bench, did not like 584 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: the bench. Last time I looked, they won an NBA championship. 585 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 5: Too, we did, Yeah, so the buttons he was pushing 586 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 5: worked and he did like the call guys out, you 587 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 5: know he was he wasn't happy with the lack of effort, 588 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 5: and he would let it be known and he would 589 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: do it in the media. 590 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: But that was his his technique and it worked. It 591 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: brought a parade. Here. Did you go to the parade? No? Well, 592 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: actually I did, I did? I did you enjoy? It 593 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 3: was the first. 594 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: Celebrated the Nuggets NBA championship and they dog the coach. 595 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: But we didn't know about some of the internal dynamics 596 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: until after the fact. 597 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: But why why Because there's there's a bit of a 598 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 2: dispute really with some of the quote internal dynamics. So 599 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: why would you choose decide solely with Calvin Booth and 600 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: completely against Michael Malone. 601 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: Because Michael Maloon's Michael as sorry, sabotaged the team. 602 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: Calvin Muth in what regard. 603 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: Calvin Mooth was trying to build this thing for what 604 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: the current CBA allows. The fact that you could only 605 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: have so many of these max contracts before you got 606 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: into the second apron, which was going to limit some 607 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: of the abilities of what your team could do. So 608 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: he was trying to say we got to play and 609 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: build through our draft and boot build through our death. 610 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: And Michael Malone said, I will not do that. I 611 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: will not play these guys. It will not develop these guys. 612 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: And you can take that. 613 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: Which which guy. 614 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: That was there to be developed now that Michael Malone 615 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: is gone has turned out to be oh Man, Damn? 616 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: I wish we would have developed that guy before Peyton Watson. 617 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong. I like Watson in there was 618 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: his rookie season. Wasn't nineteen rookie season? And he's a 619 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: much better player now than he was then. Would you 620 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: give me that? 621 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: Of course he is, but he's grown, but he got 622 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: more time and now he's about. 623 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: Your time because of injuries this year. 624 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: Are you guaranteeing that Michael Malone would have played Peyton 625 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: Watson as much as he got to play this year. 626 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: I don't have any idea, but I think he would 627 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: have played Peyton Watson given the injury situation this year. Right, absolutely, 628 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: anybody else that was not developed on the mighty end 629 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: of the bench. 630 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: I think Julius Strather has had some nice moments for 631 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: the team this year. Who just to play a lot? Yeah, 632 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: I didn't play a lot for Michael Malone but got 633 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: a chance to play. 634 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: More So, how how long of rotation would you have 635 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: had Michael Malone, who, by the way, won the NBA 636 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: Championship that year. How many guys would have been in 637 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: the playoff rotation you'd have played Julian Strather, who you 638 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: taken out of the game, Jamal. 639 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: No, this was more like the year after the championship 640 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: that I'm one more the championship. I understand that, right, 641 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this successive years after that one. 642 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the championship. Okay, well, you know you 643 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: have taken out He pushed all the. 644 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Right buttons in this championship run. I would give him 645 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: credit for that period period right there, this period stop. 646 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: One text from the seven to nine cent Bones Highland 647 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: could have worked. 648 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 649 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: No, no, I don't think we agree on that. 650 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: No. 651 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I seem more of a internal issue with a very 652 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: prominent player specifically right yep, yeah, And he said the 653 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: text says we could have won another title if they 654 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: were kept the same people here. 655 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: When the title this year, hang on, at least I 656 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: think that you are Nate. 657 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: Nate is pretty sure of it too. And then there's you, 658 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: and there's me. 659 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure of it is the West for a moment. 660 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Is the West tougher now then it wasn't twice way three. 661 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: I think the Lakers if Doncic and ar Back are better, Antoniously, 662 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: Antonio is better. Golden State is not as good, Dallas 663 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: is not. 664 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: As good, Phoenix is not as good. 665 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: Phoenix is not as good, Houston's better. So it's just 666 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: that they some of them have switched some spots. Minnesota 667 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: maybe about the same. 668 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: I think. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you watch 669 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: them a lot more than I do. 670 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: We'll see what an Ant's injury. 671 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: Because I want the Nuggets to have to play the Timbu. 672 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: Wolves my favorites. 673 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: That sounds like me, But that's you. Yeah, I know, 674 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: I know you're you know what I mean. 675 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 4: It sounds just like me. 676 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: It does. 677 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 4: It's right up there with your Sean Payton. 678 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 6: Look, it's the Denver Nuggets are relative to other teams 679 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 6: in the West situationally. Look, you go down, you get 680 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 6: the playoffs. Anytime there's you're gonna have a and and 681 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 6: we feel pretty good about it. 682 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm so glad we got that in. 683 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to have you do one of his shows. 684 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, one of his pregame shows. I'm gonna 685 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: have you asked the questions so back to him. So great, 686 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: How would you like that? Will he be okay with that? 687 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Let me think No, I Nate. Great job, Spencer, 688 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: some guys, I'll see you next time. 689 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: Appreciate your great, great job. 690 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: As always, we got Rockies Baseball coming up next, taking 691 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: on the Astros. 692 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: We'll back tomorrow three o'clock right here on k o 693 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: A The Long Ball