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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since E three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: From Cincinnati, this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. As we embark on the third and

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Speaker 2: final hour of the Thursday edition here, let's let's do

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Speaker 2: so with a guest that joins us each and every Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Right here at this time slot. Our friend from Bearcat

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Speaker 2: Journal dot Com, Keegan Nickoson, joins us right now.

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Speaker 3: Keegan, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Nothing much, Tony?

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Speaker 5: How are you well?

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Speaker 3: It's been a week.

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Speaker 2: We have a Bearcat basketball team winners of three straight games,

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Speaker 2: and we also have seen early returns on Bischo ball,

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Speaker 2: starting with a win at Auburn. Let's start real quick

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Speaker 2: on the baseball team. Can you put into perspective how

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Speaker 2: big of a win that is early on in the

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Speaker 2: baseball season to go on the road to a top

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Speaker 2: ten team in the country and get a win in

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Speaker 2: dominating fashion like you she was able to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think when people remember that.

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Speaker 5: First year when they were on.

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Speaker 4: The bubble outside looking in a women like.

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Speaker 5: What they got over Auburn would have been.

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Speaker 6: A huge help and possibly getting them to the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's just huge for a team that is

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Speaker 6: probably going to be close to the bubble and also

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Speaker 6: huge for a team that needed some momentum to kind

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Speaker 6: of prove to the country and maybe even prove to

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Speaker 6: themselves that, you know, despite losing the two players that

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Speaker 6: they lost to the MLB last year, they are still

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Speaker 6: a very good team and they're a very deep team.

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Speaker 4: And that's what Jordan Bischel told us before the.

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Speaker 6: Season that while they might not have as much top

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Speaker 6: all over the place and definitely including pitching. So that

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Speaker 6: getting that win, especially shutting them out eight to nothing,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely mass So credit to Jordan Bischlin this team.

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Speaker 2: There's expectations set at the start of every year. Where

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Speaker 2: do the expectations start with this baseball program at the

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati? Is it back to the tournament? Where

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Speaker 2: where do those start and stop going into this season?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when we talked to Jordan before the season,

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Speaker 6: he didn't lay out anything specifically, but he definitely did

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Speaker 6: say that they would be pretty disappointed if they weren't

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Speaker 6: playing into June.

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Speaker 4: So I think the expectation is.

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Speaker 6: To get back to postseason ball, maybe even sliding into

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Speaker 6: that like two seed and whatever region they get, or

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Speaker 6: maybe they play really really well and they're able to

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Speaker 6: host the regional motivated by getting I think the ninth

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Speaker 6: or eighth spot in the preseason Big Twelve. So they're

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Speaker 6: a good team and I think that they expect to

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Speaker 5: In that regional wherever they're at.

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Speaker 4: And when I asked coach Bischell before the.

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Speaker 6: Season, like, what did you learn about playing in the

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Speaker 6: regional like you did at Tennessee, And he said, you

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Speaker 6: need pitching depths, like in order to play that entire

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Speaker 6: I think that he's confident that they got those guys

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Speaker 2: Before I get into UC hoops, it's been a bizarre

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Speaker 2: college basketball week. I want to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: a couple of different things. What did you make of

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Speaker 6: Part of me thinks that Nick kind of lives in

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Speaker 6: And then like I've dealt with coaches and press conferences

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Speaker 5: A hole, they're gonna take advantage of it. And Nick

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Speaker 6: So you know, that's also a telltale sign of not

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Speaker 6: And you know, it's a Michigan reporter asking Mick Cronin

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Speaker 5: Know, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 4: It's competition, and it's it's what makes great atmosphere is great,

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Speaker 4: but Nick is gonna completely dismiss it, So yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was pretty fun. I actually fell asleep on the

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Speaker 4: Waiting for the conference to get upseted on YouTube, so

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve happenings. Terrible news out of Lubbock for Texas Tech,

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Speaker 2: obviously an opponent that UCC's coming up in just a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when you look at the upper echelon

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Speaker 6: that has impacted the most by losing their star player.

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Speaker 6: Like you look at Kansas and Darren Peterson's been out.

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Speaker 5: And they've still been able to win big games.

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Speaker 6: Houston is a machine, Arizona's a machine, Iowa State's the machine.

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Speaker 6: BYU that would probably be the next step with aj

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Speaker 6: when you lose a guy like Topman, who was in

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Speaker 5: To be National Player.

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Speaker 6: Of the Year, Big Twelve Player of the Year, I

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Speaker 6: think that that makes it really interesting for them.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, they've got to play Cincinnati coming up.

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Speaker 4: The Bearcats are able to.

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Speaker 6: Steal a game from them, and then they've also got

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Speaker 6: Iowa State and DYU down the road do the Raiders.

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Speaker 6: So they've got an interesting remainder of the schedule. But

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Speaker 6: it kind of opens a window for Cincinnati to surprise

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Speaker 2: You also have what happened last night with Kansas and

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Speaker 2: How do you view the situation that's unfolding with arguably

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I can't stand the NBA. I don't

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Speaker 6: basically all about just maximizing your value, like your monetary value,

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Speaker 5: And credit to him, like, the kid's an absolute stud.

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Speaker 6: He's going to make probably one hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 4: Six years when he signs a Supermax day.

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Speaker 6: But I just there's a part of me that wants

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Speaker 4: Sure, and people talked about it with.

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Speaker 6: Does he actually like playing basketball or is it just

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Speaker 6: maximize his values. So it's a negative on the sport.

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Speaker 6: It's also just another example of people listening to the

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Speaker 6: that want to dip their toe and then they're advising

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Speaker 6: and not in the best interests of the team. What

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Speaker 6: I will say is I wouldn't really expect him to

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Speaker 6: So if you're gonna look for a team that's gonna

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Speaker 5: Kansas is a huge candidate for that.

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Speaker 4: If he's gonna play thirty two minutes a game. There

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Speaker 6: Chance that this is all very real and he's actually

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Speaker 4: Half starts for all these games, so that that could

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Speaker 2: But you know, if that's the case, why not just

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Speaker 5: Just rest him.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea. It's pretty I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 5: But maybe he scores like thirty.

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Speaker 4: Two points in fifteen minutes in Cincinnati and then just

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Speaker 2: The game itself, Cincinnati winners of three in a row,

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Speaker 2: It was a struggle against Utah. But the silver lining

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Speaker 2: the final nine points of the game. They have momentum going.

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Speaker 2: How does you see now fill this extended time off

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you just have to continue to play

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Speaker 6: a great example of them being able to overcome adversity

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Speaker 6: You get a genuine quality win over UCF, like UCF

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Speaker 6: and then you beat the two bottom theaters in the

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Speaker 6: we've all seen the some three and one hundred and

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Speaker 4: Under five minutes left for west Miller's stat and they

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Speaker 4: So I think you just have to continue stacking good days.

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Speaker 4: You have to realize that, barring a miracle, you're probably

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Speaker 4: not going to be playing postseason basketball, but you can

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Speaker 4: still make fans proud, you can still make your teammates

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Speaker 2: When you look at the health of this team, obviously

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Speaker 2: Sean a bib has been out, but it seems like

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Speaker 2: he was getting closer. We got the update on Haynes

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Speaker 2: that we've been kind of waiting for. From a health standpoint,

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Speaker 2: How do you expect them to be at what Wes

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I always try to like predict this, and then

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Speaker 6: there's always an injury on the last possession.

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Speaker 4: Of practice right before they.

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Speaker 5: Leave for an away game, So I never really know.

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Speaker 5: With this team, I would expect Sean to be fine.

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Speaker 5: He missed the.

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Speaker 4: Kansas State game after playing against.

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Speaker 6: Sees Wes Miller coming back, the fans will be rightfully

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Speaker 6: But like Wes is the judge an executioner of Cincinnati basketball.

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Speaker 5: That's definitely a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, and this is a conversation. We had a lot

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Speaker 4: If he has a primary residence in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: He's probably got multiple.

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Speaker 6: You really see his work in the.

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Speaker 4: Transfer portal and trying to recruit those high school guys.

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Speaker 3: Is Chad sending you to fall Allen?

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe with comb well, I thought maybe with

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not a great financial use to send me

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it, Keegan, thanks again for your time. Man,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Tony, and thank you for not raising your voice

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Speaker 3: From what Keegan just said.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I guess just start talking. Apparently was that? Apparently

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Speaker 3: There it is, Kley, There it is. I'm having a

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Speaker 2: The Olympic Games is not a good one right now

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Speaker 3: What's that good for? I guess it ain't bronze. Tom

447
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Speaker 3: Brady's in the house right now. We're talking of sweet

448
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Speaker 3: US quarters up seth Mia. I mean, the stars are

449
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Speaker 3: out for USA and Canada hockey. But good to see

450
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Speaker 3: tom Brady there. Well, I don't have anything else to

451
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Speaker 3: be doing right now. Honest to god, why is he there?

452
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Speaker 3: I thought he was running the Raiders, That's what I thought.

453
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Speaker 3: Don't they have like an interesting time to leave? Do

454
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Speaker 3: you think he's like on the phone with Duke Tobin

455
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Speaker 3: about a Max Crosby things.

456
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Speaker 2: That's how serious the Max Crosby negotiations are going, is

457
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Speaker 2: that Tom Brady's like, I'm just gonna head over the Olympics.

458
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Speaker 3: If you're the Raiders, if you're a Raiders fan and

459
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Speaker 3: this is a guy who's supposedly running your team, this

460
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Speaker 3: is important, times incredibly important. Offseason. If I saw Duke

461
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Speaker 3: Tobin over there, I would be pissed, right, like, what

462
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Speaker 3: are we doing? Like dookie ball game? What we doing

463
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Speaker 3: about dookie ball game? Dookiye ball game? You like that one.

464
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Speaker 3: I can't wait to tweet Spencey long balls against. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, uh, okay, Tom, what an interesting look. Now

466
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Speaker 3: they do have internet over there in Italy, and they

467
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Speaker 3: do have you know, phones still work over there. Okay,

468
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Speaker 3: so I guess he could.

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Speaker 2: Still work you think in between like this and whatever

470
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Speaker 2: event he's going to next. He's just in the hotel

471
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Speaker 2: breaking down tape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably, if Tom Brady is who I think he is,

473
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Speaker 3: then yes, yeah, I don't know that. I don't know

474
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Speaker 3: how much tape. I mean, they've made something official earlier

475
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Speaker 3: today about like a high they should make for him.

476
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Speaker 3: He's delegating a lot of that to John Spytech. Go

477
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Speaker 3: ahead and make that official to him. Anders. But did

478
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Speaker 3: you see the report of what the Raiders are apparently

479
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Speaker 3: looking for for Max Crosby. I did not, so let

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Speaker 3: me see if I have this correctly. They want a

481
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Speaker 3: package similar to what the Cowboys got for Micah Parsons,

482
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Speaker 3: which was a very good defensive tackle in Kenny Clark

483
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Speaker 3: and two first round picks, one this year and one

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Speaker 3: next year. Would you give up let's say.

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Speaker 5: B J.

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Speaker 3: Hill, Yes, or I mean I know that there's not

487
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Speaker 3: like a lot of pelts on the wall there.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: What if it's Jordan Battle? Would you get give up

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Speaker 3: Jordan Battle and two first round picks for Max Crosby?

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Speaker 2: I think I would strictly in the thought process of

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Speaker 2: winning now and capitalizing on the window that you're in

493
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Speaker 2: right now with what you have on offense and those

494
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Speaker 2: players being in the prime, prime spots of their career.

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Speaker 2: I think if it meant getting a game wrecking player

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Speaker 2: in Max Crosby, who I would imagine Austin It's hard

497
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Speaker 2: and I know, and we talked about this a lot

498
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Speaker 2: with Darren Peterson today. When you're just on a bad

499
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Speaker 2: team year in and year out, it's hard to be

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Speaker 2: that much more motivated. I think you would get a

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Speaker 2: unbelievably motivated Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. Motivation does

503
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Speaker 3: not always equal production.

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Speaker 2: Though, No, but you also would get production value that

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Speaker 2: you've seen consistently in the NFL. Not a prospect, not

506
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Speaker 2: someone with upside someone you know what they give you

507
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Speaker 2: game in and game out.

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Speaker 3: Did you see, speaking of Kenny Clark, that Bill Barnwell

509
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Speaker 3: said the Bengals should trade for him. No, the Bengals,

510
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Speaker 3: according to Kenny Clark, are not. According to Kinney Clark,

511
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Speaker 3: Kenny Clark thinks Bill Barnwell put together trade proposals across

512
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Speaker 3: the ESPN's network, and he's had the Bengals and Cowboys

513
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Speaker 3: making a trade. The Bengals receive Kenny Clark and a

514
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Speaker 3: seventh round pick in exchange for a sixth round pick

515
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. Kenny Clark is set to make

516
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Speaker 3: twenty one million dollars. Eleven million of that comes in

517
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Speaker 3: a mid March roster bonus. So sure, I feel like

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Speaker 3: I would do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like there's not a lot of moves

520
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Speaker 2: I've I've heard at this point that I'm like, no,

521
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm against that. Kenny Clark was not on the Kenny

523
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Speaker 3: Clark of Old last year, and but he was fine.

524
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Speaker 3: He was a good player, and we continue to talk

525
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Speaker 3: about interior past. Now he is thirty, he is thirty.

526
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Speaker 3: Is we're not fit the bill of what the Bengals

527
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Speaker 3: typically do. But Mountain. That's of a man six three

528
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Speaker 3: three fifteen. That's the sort of stuff that they're looking for. Okay,

529
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Speaker 3: Kenny Clark, I me ain't nothing small about old Kenny.

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Speaker 3: One other NFL and I here I was. I thought

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Speaker 3: they killed Kenny.

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Speaker 2: No, they haven't done that yet. One other NFL note

533
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Speaker 2: that I think is is newsworthy. Here what's going on

534
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Speaker 2: in Indiana right now? Indiana lawmakers in the in the

535
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Speaker 2: state House have unanimously approved an amendment to Indiana State

536
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Speaker 2: Bill twenty seven H was a twenty four to oh

537
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Speaker 2: vote that would create a path for the Bears to

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Speaker 2: build a stadium in Hammond, Indiana. This coming on the

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Speaker 2: heels of the Bears, who are trying to get a

540
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Speaker 2: new stadium deal done in Illinois for a while, have

541
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Speaker 2: not been able to get that done. Now here comes

542
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Speaker 2: Indiana saying, well, we could get this done. Do you

543
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Speaker 2: think think there's any legs to this and do you

544
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Speaker 2: think this at all is good for Chicago or the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think the conversation has always kind of been that,

546
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Speaker 3: you know, the Indiana, the idea of Indiana is more

547
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Speaker 3: posturing for the Bears to land back in Illinois. But

548
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Speaker 3: this does not seem like posturing to me. This seems

549
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Speaker 3: like a very real possibility now. And I think there

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Speaker 3: we forget just a little bit of the geographical aspect

551
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Speaker 3: of this. It's not that far away, correct.

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Speaker 2: It's a governor wrote Indiana's open for business.

553
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as they should be. They should win an

554
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Speaker 3: NFL team up in that part of the state, to

555
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: an area that doesn't typically get that sort of of

556
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Speaker 3: influx of stuff. And apparently the Bears are going to

557
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: put two billion into it themselves, which they should. But

558
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: this is about thirty minutes south of Soldier Field right now,

559
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Speaker 3: so it's not like it's three hours. It's not like

560
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: that proposal from Iowa that we had talked about once before.

561
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Speaker 3: It's not ridiculous. I personally am partial to the idea

562
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Speaker 3: of NFL teams in downtown stadiums. I like that. I

563
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: think it's best for everyone. I think the billionaires should

564
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: build their own stadiums, but I do think that the

565
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: community should have involvement and and be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: I just personally, as as a fan, don't like the

567
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Speaker 3: idea of the Bears playing thirty minutes south of Chicago

568
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Speaker 3: in Indiana. However, I mean Foxborough is like forty five

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Speaker 3: minutes away from Boston. Sure. What I think would be

570
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Speaker 3: funny is let's say the Bears play a Sunday night game, right,

571
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Speaker 3: and they show shots of the Chicago skyline. Yeah, I mean,

572
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 3: that's what they do with the Patriots. The Patriots are

573
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Speaker 3: in Foxboro, that's a trek from Boston, correct, and they

574
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Speaker 3: show shots of Boston. The New York Giants and Jets

575
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: play in New Jersey. So I mean, it's not that

576
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Speaker 3: ridiculous on the surface.

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Speaker 5: Just me.

578
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Speaker 3: If it were me and my team, I want them downtown.

579
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Speaker 3: But they're trying to build and and create this footprint

580
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Speaker 3: of of Chicago Bears football where they're gonna own all

581
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Speaker 3: this land and build it out and build on it,

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna have restaurants and hotels and all sorts

583
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Speaker 3: of shopping centers and all sorts of stuff, and they're

584
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Speaker 3: gonna own all of it, and they're gonna get most

585
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Speaker 3: of the money. And you know, much like I've talked

586
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Speaker 3: about the Braves with the Atlanta with the with the

587
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Speaker 3: battery that they have down there, the Browns are doing

588
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Speaker 3: this in brook Park.

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Speaker 2: So my thought was this, it was like, okay, early

590
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Speaker 2: on this is just a way to get Illinois's attention.

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Speaker 2: Now it feels like it's gaining a little bit more likes,

592
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Speaker 2: and I think that makes it interesting to watch as

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Speaker 2: we as we move forward into the NFL office.

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Speaker 3: And what I don't quite understand about it, like geographically,

595
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: how many of the fans in northern Indiana and that

596
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: specific area are Bears fans? Yeah, how many of them

597
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: are Colts fans? How many of them don't give a

598
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: damn about either? In our Notre Dame fans, I think

599
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: so much of Like the Chicago land area is the

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Speaker 3: area obviously because of the geographic way it's set up,

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Speaker 3: the area west of Chicago and north of Chicago, You're

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Speaker 3: making it harder for those people to get to games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Uh. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: very interesting going forward. Second period coming to an end.

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Speaker 3: And I don't play football on the south side of Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you how much you play different games over there?

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Speaker 3: Ain't no different there. Not Mulaga.

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Speaker 2: Well, have a twy touch and go and then we'll

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Speaker 2: get to Mulwagar still ahead since he three to sixty

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen to thirty cent an OUTI Sports station.

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Speaker 3: Here's an important tip. Did you see what Brad Underwood

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Speaker 3: said last night? What did he do? I mean it

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Speaker 3: kind of feels like a shot at mc cronin. Perhaps,

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Speaker 3: Oh they played mccronin. Next Brad Underwood, the coach of Illinois,

615
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: was asked about you know, travel sure and all that.

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Speaker 3: He said, I don't worry about the trips. We're spoiled.

617
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Speaker 3: We charter, we have great food, we stay in nice places.

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Speaker 3: It's really not that hard. We just got to show

619
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Speaker 3: up and play. Love it, Brad Underwood, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it is true.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they're crammed in the middle aisle seats

622
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Speaker 2: on airplanes, correct, And it's not like they're not taking

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Speaker 2: care of on the road. They're not staying you know,

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Speaker 2: at the roadway in no offense to the roadway in

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Speaker 2: If they want to sponsor any segment of the show,

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Speaker 2: we'd love to have them. But they're traveling and they're

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Speaker 2: put up. Well, oh man, you got to pick your battles.

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Speaker 2: Good for Brad Underwood.

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Speaker 3: I saw people quote tweeting that with did you just

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Speaker 3: raise your voice at me? Mike cronin.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: three sixty.

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Speaker 3: We got Mo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What's happened to Moe? What you got on the show today?

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Speaker 7: Well, we're we're gonna talk about Hunter Green, which is

649
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Speaker 7: probably no surprise to any but we're gonna go back

650
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Speaker 7: to Hunter Green's comments the other day because I think

651
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Speaker 7: they matter, and I think what happened to Hunter Green

652
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 7: last year matters, and I think if you understand what

653
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Speaker 7: the Reds are trying to do, then you really have

654
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Speaker 7: to think about what happened last year with Hunter Green.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure what I'm saying right now is making people

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Speaker 7: go huh. But hopefully they're going huh. I can't wait

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Speaker 7: to hear what he means coming up at three to

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Speaker 7: h five. I've been thinking a lot about Mick Cronin,

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Speaker 7: so we talked about his postgame comments the other night

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Speaker 7: after UCLA got destroyed by Michigan State. Is there a

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Speaker 7: group of people in the United States of America who

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Speaker 7: have collectively lost grip of control more than college basketball coaches.

663
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 7: I want to spend some time on that, so we will.

664
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 7: Chad Brendle's going to join us to talk some UC basketball.

665
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 7: The Bearcats play Kansas on Saturday. The Bearcats have won

666
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 7: three consecutive games. Can they make it four? Can they

667
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 7: make it five? Can they run the table? And Devin

668
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 7: Kerr from a MLS season pass on Apple TV will

669
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 7: talk some FC Cincinnati. But before we get to some

670
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 7: of the quick kids, I want to share with you, guys,

671
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 7: and I think Tony Frankly specifically a little bit more

672
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 7: you an interaction that I.

673
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: Was part of last night. Please. So I went to

674
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 3: the NKU game.

675
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 7: Yes, and the Norris won last night, very good offensive

676
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 7: performance beat Perdue Fort Wayne the Horizon League tournament format's

677
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 7: a little goofy, and so it's imperative that you finish

678
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 7: in the top five so you can get a home game.

679
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 7: And the Norris have some work to do. They have

680
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 7: some tough games in front of them, but they played

681
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 7: well last night. But it's interesting. At halftime, I'm just

682
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 7: kind of minding my own business, waiting to get a beer.

683
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 7: And I don't know if you know Christina Roibal, she's

684
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 7: the athletic director at NKAU. She comes up to me,

685
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 7: and I didn't know she knew who I was. I've

686
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 7: had her on the show. Comes up to me and says,

687
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 7: can I can I talk to you for a second?

688
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 7: I said yeah. She goes, well, actually can we just

689
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 7: sort of duck over here away from people and made

690
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 7: small talk for a few minutes.

691
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: And I'm kind of like, like, all right, what do

692
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: you want?

693
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 5: Like what do you need?

694
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Did I do something that I say something? And she goes,

695
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: can I can I ask you a question?

696
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 7: And I thought maybe there was going to be like

697
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 7: a personal question, and I go, yeah, whatever whatever you

698
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 7: need and she goes Austin Elmore, did did he really

699
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 7: go here? And I said, like, you know, I've never

700
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 7: seen a transcript, he says he has.

701
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: I believe him. There's no reason for me not to.

702
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 7: And I go, you know, why don't you go to

703
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 7: the bursar's office and checking missions? I mean, surely they

704
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 7: have and athletics they're not allowed to do that. And

705
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 7: so I just thought it was weird. And if you

706
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 7: remember the last game that I went to, Darren Horne

707
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 7: as to me why Austin hates him? So there's something

708
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 7: weird going on, Tony, and on your Guys show, maybe

709
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 7: you should the two of you.

710
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: Get to the bottom up. Well, this was asked today.

711
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: We had Rick Buren on the show today and he

712
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: actually brought it up and kind of put the bats

713
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: signal out as well and said, you know, where is Austin?

714
00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: Where has Austin been last night? Meaningful game at Trust Arena? Uh,

715
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: where's Austin? Where's Austin been this year? Where has Austin

716
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: been going forward? It is it's it's becoming a question.

717
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: And the whispers have gotten louder around Truist Arena and

718
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: in Northern Kentucky University and.

719
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 7: Is you know, I like to go to games and

720
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 7: I feel uncomfortable, like I'm not responsible. I wants you

721
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 7: have to take Why do I have to be Austin's

722
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 7: meat shield like association.

723
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: These people have my number, they could reach out to

724
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 3: me directly.

725
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 7: So what I was told was, and I'm it's a

726
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: hard position. I was told was look, Horizon LEA tournaments

727
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 7: coming up. We think we've got a chance. League is

728
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 7: wide open. We we suspect if we do well in it,

729
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 7: Austin will start talking about how like, you know, you

730
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 7: can't get in the way of NKU in March. This

731
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 7: is what we do. And they're like, you know, we'd

732
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 7: rather he not if he's not really gonna support the program. Look,

733
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 7: I'm just put you. I'm like, look, hey, I got it.

734
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 7: I'll pass it on. I'm just trying to watch the game. Sorry,

735
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 7: I can't be responsible for who's not here. I just

736
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 7: thought it was weird and I just I'm here to

737
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 7: repair what appears to be a broken relationship.

738
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: That's it, that's all well said.

739
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: We'll leave the ball in Austin's court at this point,

740
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: one more home game, remaining home.

741
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: Remaining its fit up to me this entire time.

742
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 7: Really, it's got folks at NKU who just I don't know.

743
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I just they're probably in the admissions office

744
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 7: right now, like calming through files to see if like

745
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 7: there's a real transcript or.

746
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: Something that was there was one one would make that up.

747
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: But there you go.

748
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: There was one point in my life where I legitimately

749
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: thought Austin was the biggest NKU fan I've ever met.

750
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one point in my life where I

751
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: feel like I was What happened. Yeah, life happens. Sometimes

752
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: you don't be Sometimes you can't put as much time

753
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 3: and effort and energy into a relationship and the relationship suffers.

754
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: It's not that they've done anything wrong. It's on me

755
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: how many? How many mock drafts have you done in

756
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks? Like three? Life gets in

757
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: the way on the mater sometimes, you know, sometimes you

758
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: cross out that list, and sometimes you can't just put

759
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: it in the can and head down there early. Sometimes

760
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 3: you gotta stick around to the end and got a yeah,

761
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: do my mock draft? Be remiss?

762
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: MO not to ask you, and I'm sure you'll talk

763
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: about it. What do you make of Darren Peterson right

764
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: now in Kansas?

765
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 7: Weird man weird and a huge red flag? Like how

766
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 7: do you not question his competitiveness.

767
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

768
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: Regardless of what you're told, when the game starts, does

769
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 2: the competitives not take over?

770
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

771
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 7: And like I've talked about this a lot with again

772
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 7: Hunter Green, Like I defer to the athlete. Athlete knows

773
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 7: his or her body. But there's something about this that

774
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 7: I'm sorry you can't help, but wonder, Like I go

775
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 7: back to that game that they played against Arizona at

776
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 7: home that they won, and it's like, if you're a

777
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 7: college basketball player, don't you dream of playing in games

778
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 7: like that?

779
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: Yep?

780
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: Like don't don't.

781
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 7: Don't you work your ass off to get to that

782
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 7: point so you could play at that level and compete

783
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 7: on stages like that and in games like that. And

784
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 7: so what happened the other night where he takes a

785
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 7: shot and he appears to say something to his coach,

786
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 7: and like, take your cues from Bill self, because sometimes

787
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 7: it's not what you say, it's it's how you behave

788
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 7: while you're saying what you say. There's something about his

789
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 7: body language that suggests there's an Austin Elmore Nku style

790
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 7: disconnect between Kansas Aaron Peterson. But what I would say

791
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 7: to Darren Peterson is, take your time, relax, do what

792
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 7: you got to do. If it isn't a groin or

793
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 7: a hamstring, don't rush back. Yeah, whatever it is, like,

794
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 7: take the weekend off, just take take some time this

795
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 7: weekend and maybe grab Florie but Dungin going like a guys.

796
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: Trip for the weekend or something. Yeah, just do you guys,

797
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: do what you gotta do. Yep.

798
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: And if I'm Bill self, I say, come back Sunday

799
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: night ready to get ready to play for against Houston.

800
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. Oh, and then sort of monitor where things might

801
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 7: be in like the Big Twelve tournament, depending on who

802
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 7: you play, yep. And depending on what the stakes are,

803
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 7: maybe make a game time decision.

804
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, see what you can get away with. I do

805
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: have to ask. I brought this up briefly today.

806
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: Fangrafts throughout their twenty twenty six projections for the playoffs

807
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: and in the National League, they have the Reds MO

808
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: only higher than the Cardinals, Marlins, Nationals, and Rockies. And

809
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: what I thought was more interesting, they have the Reds

810
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: at a twenty point three percent chance to make the playoffs.

811
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: They put the Pirates number at forty three percent to

812
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Are we sleeping a little bit on

813
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates. And do you think that number is

814
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: too low for the Reds.

815
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: I think the number about right, like one out of

816
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: every five times.

817
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean like it's it's not like they made

818
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 7: the playoffs by a lot last year. They needed an

819
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 7: end of season collapse by the New York Mets, and

820
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 7: they needed help after they lost Game one sixty two

821
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 7: in order to sneak into the playoffs with the six

822
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: best record of the National League. So it's it's not

823
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 7: like we're talking about a team that won ninety nine

824
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 7: games last season.

825
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Pirate.

826
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 7: I think the Pirates are interesting because there's a there's

827
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 7: a part of me that feels like they're a version

828
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 7: of last year's Reds team. Right, really good starting pitching.

829
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 7: You wonder have they done enough offensively? But yeah, like

830
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 7: the consensus is, and I get it, they've been active

831
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 7: this offseason. They they feel like they are to be

832
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 7: taken seriously in this division. I think what's happened with

833
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 7: the Reds. I think the floor has been raised. Like,

834
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 7: I think it would be stunning if they lost ninety games.

835
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: I think it would be stunning if they won more

836
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 7: than ninety games. Ye, anything else in that window I

837
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 7: think is fair game. I think the interesting thing for

838
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 7: me is how many one run games do they play him?

839
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 7: Last year forty four one run games. They were twenty

840
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 7: two and twenty two. My guess is they're either significantly

841
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 7: better or significantly worse. But do they play in the

842
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 7: same number of one run games? How are they in

843
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 7: extra inning games? They were three and twelve last year.

844
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 7: I believe it was uncanny how and frequently they scored

845
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 7: in extra innings, especially given the fact that you start

846
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 7: extra innings with the stupid magic runner on second base.

847
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 7: I want to believe this can be a playoff team.

848
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

849
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 7: Like we talked about with the guy that was on

850
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 7: the show on Tuesday, like he did a betting segment

851
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 7: and that was like, here's some data to make your bet.

852
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 7: Would you bet on the Reds to win the division

853
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 7: this year and.

854
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: Feel good about it? No? Right, Like you might do

855
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: it emotionally.

856
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 7: I bet on him to hit the over every year,

857
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 7: just because I want to root for something in September.

858
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 7: But like, there are still so many unknown variables. It's like, well,

859
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 7: if Matt McClain is the he was in twenty twenty three. Cool.

860
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 7: If a Uhanio Soarez can provide the ancillary effect that

861
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 7: his bet in the middle of the lineup is supposed

862
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 7: to provide. If Sal Stewart ends up having a Rookie

863
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: of the Year type season, if Ellie Dela Cruz takes

864
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 7: a major step forward, if all the starting pitchers stay healthy. Like,

865
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 7: each of those things can happen. But I feel like

866
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 7: for this team to sail into the postseason, all of

867
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 7: those things can happen, are going to have to happen.

868
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 7: And there's a big difference between each and all. That is,

869
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 7: if you've like I was on nku's campus last night,

870
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 7: that doesn't mean I went there, right, Like are we

871
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 7: are we confusing? Like, Hey, I was on campus a

872
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 7: few times, so I was a student there, Like I've

873
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 7: been on UC's campus a lot, But I didn't. I didn't,

874
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 7: you know, go to school there. And I just wonder

875
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 7: if that's sort of being lost in translation.

876
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: Do you want to see my student loans?

877
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 5: Oh?

878
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: No, I don't. Unfortunately you know what school I went to, right,

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