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All right here he 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: is the Pope of the pack, the big ten baron 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: the prints of prognosticators. 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: This guy was fifteen to five. 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Guys on the air this year nailing Miami and the 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: points against Indiana last night. Let's walkome in our friend 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: John Wilner from the San Jose Mercury News. 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 3: How are you, man, I'm good boy. 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: The six o'clock hour on this show is wild. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just stick around man until six forty five. 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: We are fresh out of good ideas, man. We rely 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: on the audience to get us through. It's crazy. So, 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: first of all, to you, congrats on a hell of 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: a year picking games man, seventy five percent fifteen and five, 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: and like you said to me on text last night, 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: that just means next year is going to be a 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: disaster on the air. 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 5: So congratulations, pretty much, pretty much, thank you, Thank you. 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: Basically got the score of the game. 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 5: Last night, right, I had Wow, yep, I had Indiana 37 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: winning twenty seven to twenty twenty. Right, and yeah, twenty 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: seven to twenty one. 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Great game. 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: I mean it didn't start out like that, but boy, 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 5: the second half was fantastic. 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're off by a point, so do better next times? 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: Right, Well, I will try. I will try. 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 6: John put into words the historic nature of what Kurt 45 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 6: Signetti just accomplished. 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: Well, I would argue it's the best coaching job, short 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: term coaching job in the history of American pro college sports. 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about the school that has lost 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: more games than any other in college football history. 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 7: What were they? 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: Three and nine in twenty twenty three, and in two 52 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 5: years they are not. 53 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: Only national champs but sixteen and ZHO. They're the first 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: sixteen and OH team since Yale in the eighteen nineties. 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 56 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: And I understand it is a you know, it is 57 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: a different error for error era for sure. 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: But it is still incredible. He is a phenomenal coach. 59 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 5: And you know, you think about all the schools that 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 5: didn't hire him, was that he was at James Madison 61 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: all those years. 62 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the only reason he got the Indiana job. 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 5: Two years ago is because really nobody else wanted it 64 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: was looked upon as a dead end job. And he 65 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: gets in there, and you know, they introduced him at 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 5: the basketball game and he says, like, screw Michigan School, 67 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 5: Ohio State, and then they just it's unbelievable. 68 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: You know, Indiana is the last school. 69 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: In major college football to undefeated and the last school 70 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 5: in major college basketball to go undefeated. 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: Well, your point about Signetti is right on. 72 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: I put that on Twitter today that I just don't 73 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: get how college football missed on this guy. The guy 74 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: was sixty two before he got his first FBS job, 75 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: and that was this job in Indiana. So I mean, 76 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, Man, who's the next Signetti? 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Like? 78 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: Is there a guy out there? 79 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: Is this going to force ads to maybe think outside 80 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: the box and hey, if there's a career life for 81 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: assistant coach who's in his mid to late fifties, maybe 82 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: we give the guy a look. 83 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: Well I think so. 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: But you know, he's in a way you could argue 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 5: he's Kalin de Boor a little bit on steroids, right. 86 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: I know he's he's older than Debor, but it's the 87 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: similar path. I mean, Debor went, you know, plied his 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 5: trade through the ranks, moved, kept winning, kept winning, finally 89 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: got a shot at Washington, and Signetti is just that, 90 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: you know, times times a couple. But I think that 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: schools will start to do that. The most interesting pieces. 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 5: Signetti worked for Nick Saban, and you think about how 93 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: many people on Nick Saban's staff got over the years, 94 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 5: got head coaching jobs and he did not get one 95 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: of those opportunities. So he says to himself, you know what, 96 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 5: the only way I'm gonna ever be a head coach 97 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 5: is if I go to Indiana University of Pennsylvania. 98 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: And that's how he got his start. 99 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 6: It's just incredible, John as the playoffs made college more 100 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 6: of a national game instead of a regional game, because 101 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 6: one thing I was noticing watching that game yesterday, I 102 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 6: was like, guys, I know these players because I've watched 103 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 6: them so many times over the last month. 104 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: And that was never the case. 105 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 6: We used to watch a team in November and then 106 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 6: saw them one time on January first, and that was it. 107 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: I think that that and the portal is helping. And 108 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 5: you know, folks out on the West coast, because of 109 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: the realignment, we're getting to see more more players that 110 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 5: are in the Big twelve and in the Big Ten. 111 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: I think it's a combination. 112 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 5: Certainly, four rounds of playoffs helps you kinda start to 113 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 5: learn who these guys are, and then of course by 114 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 5: the next year a lot of them are at different schools. 115 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 5: But I do think that the nationalization. You know, there 116 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 5: were so many years where it was basically the SEC 117 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: and Clemson and Ohio State as the or maybe Oklahoma 118 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 5: as the playoff teams and the expansion has done wonders. 119 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 5: I mean, you think about where the game would be 120 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: if they had expanded or started at twelve or at 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 5: least expanded six or eight years ago. 122 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: Well, should we be talking about you mentioned it? 123 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: They were the first sixteen and OH team, John John 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: Wilner with US courtesy is simply Seattle dot com first 125 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: sixteen and OH teams since Yale, and we'll see more 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: teams like that, I think because of the playoff, obviously 127 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: you got to put that in context. But should we 128 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: be talking about this Indiana team as one of the 129 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: greatest college football teams of all time? 130 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: I might be in the minority here, but I don't 131 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: think so. 132 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of stuff on social media about 133 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: comparing them to twenty nineteen LSU, and I mean I 134 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: think LSU would beat the pants off of them. 135 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: It's different era. 136 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: The concentration of talent in the twenty tens and prior 137 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 5: was much greater than it is now. It's so dispersed, right, 138 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 5: I mean LSU was the greatest offensive all time arguably 139 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 5: and had like five or six guys on defense drafted 140 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: the first three rounds in the NFL. 141 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: India It's not like that Indiana. 142 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 5: There's not as many elite players, but there's also not 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 5: as many on the teams that they're playing. So I 144 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 5: don't I think they are an incredible team for this era, 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 5: and ten years from now we could look back and 146 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 5: say they were the best team of the Portal and 147 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 5: nil era. 148 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 4: But I don't think you can compare them to you know, 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: LUs nineteen, Miami one, even Washington nineteen ninety one. You 150 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: know those teams I think were better. 151 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 6: Well, they were the consummate team, but they I didn't 152 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 6: even think they were the most talented team on the 153 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 6: field last year. Last night, you're just looking at NFL 154 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 6: draft picks. But John, what are they saying if the 155 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 6: SEC had a board meeting today? What are they saying 156 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 6: in the SEC boardroom? Now that we have a Big 157 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 6: ten national champion for three straight years with three different 158 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: Big ten teams? 159 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this is the one that is really 160 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 5: should be alarming to the SEC. 161 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: The previous year. 162 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: Michigan and Ohio State are the two winningest programs in the. 163 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: History of college football. 164 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 5: You know, the fact that they won the national championship, 165 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: especially Ohio State, to me, did not signify this paradigm shift. 166 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 5: But the fact that Indiana has done it a team 167 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 5: that came from nowhere. Right If the equivalent in the 168 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 5: SEC would be if Mississippi State were winning the national 169 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 5: championship going sixteen to zero. So if I'm the SEC, 170 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 5: this is the thing that scares me the most, plus 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: my poor playoff performance, and the thing is what. 172 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: Do they need to do? 173 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 5: They need to get more money to fund their roster, 174 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: and I think that they need to upgrade their coaching. 175 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: To me, the biggest difference between the Big Ten and 176 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: the SEC right now is the Big Ten's got better coaching. 177 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: And it's deeper. It's a deeper group of elite coaches. 178 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: And that has gotten even better now that Matt Campbell's 179 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: at Penn State and Kyle Whittingham is at Michigan. 180 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 7: Uh. 181 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: Do we now know when the Big Ten schedules coming out? 182 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 7: Is that right? 183 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: Tuesday? 184 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: Tuesday? Okay? 185 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: And it will be very interesting to see. 186 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: I can give you a little bit of a preview 187 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 5: from what I've been able to uncover. 188 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: Anything with Washington. 189 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 4: I don't know specifics. 190 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: I don't know specifics about Washington schedule, but I do 191 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 5: know that a lot of the West Coast schools voice 192 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: concerns about the unequal preparation time, about how many games 193 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 5: were played against an opponent that was coming off of buy. 194 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: That happened in Washington five times. 195 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: The thing to know about next year's schedule is that 196 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: there is only one by week. It's a thirteen Saturday schedule, 197 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: not a fourteen Saturday schedule, which means in the Big Ten, 198 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: there's only there's half as many opportunities this coming year 199 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: to play a team coming off of bye. 200 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: So the Washington's not gonna be in that same position. 201 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 5: Maybe they'll play two teams coming off by is not 202 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: going to be five. 203 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: John, I saw the Wall Street Journal program valuations for 204 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: college football, and were you surprised to see Washington as 205 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 6: high as they were there at one point one five 206 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 6: billion dollars, the twelfth highest in college football and ahead 207 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 6: of teams like USC and Oregon. 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: Little surprised to see him ahead of USC, you know, 209 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: And I haven't read the entire methodology full. 210 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: Transparency, but I'm assuming that part of that calcul relation 211 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: is the media. 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: Market, the economic strength of their community, and that dovetails 213 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: very well with what Washington's administration has been saying about nil, 214 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 5: which is we got Starbucks, we got Amazon, we got Microsoft. 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 5: We have got a wealthy, engaged donor base and a 216 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 5: community that cares. Even though it's a pro market, we 217 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: have a community that cares about coeg sports. 218 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: And we should be thriving in this era. 219 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 5: And I think that a lot of the journal's methodology 220 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 5: kind of stems from that same place. Washington's got a 221 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 5: lot of value because of where it is and the 222 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 5: business community in Seattle. 223 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: John great stuff man, awesome job picking games on the 224 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: air this week. And if you ever get a hanker 225 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: in to maybe predict some NFL or NBA games, just 226 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: think of us. 227 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: Okay, pal let us know you got it all right. 228 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: John Wilner, Well, guys, you bet he went fifteen to 229 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: five on the air this year. Unbelievable run by John Wilner. 230 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: Got a break up back to the Hawks. 231 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 3: Rams. 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You 240 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: know who Pro Football Focus had as their highest graded 241 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: player in twenty twenty five. 242 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: By the way, Jackson Smith and Jegua. Nope, it was Pokinakua. 243 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 6: Dude, you just signed me when I thought you were 244 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 6: gonna Zach. 245 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That's the way I work, damn it. 246 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: You gotta have your head on a swivel somewhere else. Uh, 247 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: Puka Naku was number one, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. 248 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: Penny Sewell was number two, and jaysn was number three. 249 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: But they were the top two. You have a game 250 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: this Sunday with the number one scoring offense, number one 251 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: scoring defense, and the top two rated wide receivers in 252 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: the NFL by PFF. 253 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 6: And the last time the passing yards leader met his 254 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: number one scoring defense was twenty thirteen Super Bowl forty eight. 255 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 8: Ah, but that I mean technically twenty thirteen season. 256 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that counts, But I'm thinking about the Niner game though, 257 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Sawnouse. The question was number one defense 258 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: versus number one offense? 259 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: Is that right? Scoring wise? 260 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 6: My question was no, a passing yards leader against the 261 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: number one scoring defense. 262 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: Actually, the last time that happened in. 263 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 8: The playoffs was the Seahawks and Peyton Manning and the Bronx. 264 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: Where did the Niners rank in twenty thirteen in the 265 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: NFC Championship? What was there? What was their offense rank 266 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: that year? You know where they were. I'd be curious 267 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: to know while you're looking that up. By the way, Dick, 268 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: this guy, one of these guys going to join us 269 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: on the radio show on Thursday, I believe at six o'clock. 270 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: So this is going to be one of many different 271 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: little clips we hear this week from the opposing side 272 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: of things. Well, yesterday on ESPN Radio in La, our 273 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: buddy Scott Kaplan, who's going to join us on Thursday. 274 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: George Sadano shared their confidence in the Rams beating the 275 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Seahawks in the NFC Championship game on Sunday. 276 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: Check this out. 277 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 9: I feel confident the Rams are going to beat Seattle 278 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 9: in Seattle. I'm confident they're going to win. I'm confident 279 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 9: that they are the better team. I'm confident that they 280 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 9: should have won both games already. 281 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: There's no doubt. 282 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 10: There is no doubt they should have won both games. 283 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 9: If you give me Sean McVay a third shot at 284 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 9: a team, I feel confident that they're going to be 285 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 9: able to make it work this time. I think you 286 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 9: want to force Donald to have to throw the ball. 287 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 9: I sell out on the run and say, all right, 288 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 9: Sam Donald, try to beat us. 289 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 10: Listen, Sam Donald's had an amazing couple of years, but 290 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 10: he's never been in this kind of a big game 291 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 10: and the Rams have. The Rams are going to win 292 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 10: the game. Just my confidence level is it's going to 293 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 10: be a very close game. 294 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course it gonna be a close game. 295 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: So I mean, look, if I was in their position, 296 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: i'd be saying the same thing. I Mean, they're exactly right, 297 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: by the way, from their perspective about the Rams should 298 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: have won both games. I mean they won the first 299 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: game and the second game they got a fourteen point 300 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: lead in the fourth quarter for a sixteen point lead 301 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, So they absolutely should have won 302 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: both games. There's no question about that. And I think 303 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: their take on what the Rams defense is it, Chris Shula, 304 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: is that right? The Rams defensive coordinator. What Chris Shula 305 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: will try and do is make Sam Darnold beat them, absolutely, 306 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how Sam responds. You know, 307 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: I think the idea that he's going to choke because 308 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: he's never been here before, I think that's ridiculous. I mean, 309 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of guys that have never 310 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: been here before. Mike McDonald has never been here before, 311 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: and his defense was balls against the Niners on Saturday night. 312 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: So that doesn't concern me. But I'd be lying if 313 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: I said, if the Rams make Sam Darnold beat them, 314 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: how does he respond? 315 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm curious, Yeah, very curious. 316 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 6: By the way Niners were eleventh in score, gotcha, gotch 317 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 6: you two thousands, not even close to number I would 318 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 6: just the only thing I'd pushed back on Kaplan is 319 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 6: that when he says the Rams absolutely should have won 320 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 6: both games, no question, Well, let me just remind everybody 321 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 6: what game number one looked like. First downs twenty six 322 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 6: to twelve, Seattle, total yards four fourteen to two forty nine, 323 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:45,359 Speaker 6: right Seattle. Time of possession thirty eight twenty two Seattle. 324 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't think that won. They did win. No, No, No, 325 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: the Rams are Rams won r. 326 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and then they blew a sixteen point fourth quarterly, 327 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: so they should have won both games. 328 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 6: I'm saying, right that one team dominated one game and lost, 329 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: the other team dominated the other game and lost. I 330 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 6: think these teams should be one and one in this 331 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 6: series this year. 332 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: Well, the Seahawks in Game number two, the Rams had 333 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: the ball for forty minutes, the Hawks had the ball 334 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: for twenty six minutes. The Rams had four hundred and 335 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: fifty seven yards and the Hawks had two hundred and forty. 336 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: But the way that the games went right, like, okay, 337 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: so once you're sitting there and you're through game one, 338 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: which you've already won Game one, you won it by two, 339 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: and then if I get to you in the fourth 340 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: quarter with a sixteen point lead, you're gonna say, well, 341 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna win that game too. 342 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: I just I can see that, right. 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 6: But I don't understand why he's not using the same 344 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 6: logic in game one that he's using in game two. 345 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: You're saying he should say the Rams got lucky in 346 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: game one, Yes. 347 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: Because Sam Donald gave him the ball four times. Right, 348 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 6: they got dominated in that football game. 349 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: That's why I'm not as concerned about the turnovers. 350 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: And I've said this a couple of times, and I 351 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: know people like to just pooh poo it, and that's fine. 352 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: It may be stupid by me, but I mean, Sam 353 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: Donald had how many turnovers? 354 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: How many picks at twenty? Is that right? And how 355 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: many fumbles did he have this year? How many? 356 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: How many loss fumbles? Because I know this only one loss, okay, 357 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: three fumble, one loss. Ten of them came in the 358 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: Arizona Ram back to back weeks. Ten of them, right, 359 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: like ten of the turnovers came during those weeks. So 360 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: does Sam Darnald really have a turnover problem or did 361 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: he just kind of lose his mind during those two games? 362 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry it was six, not ten. Six of the 363 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: twenty one came over a two week period against the 364 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: Cardinals in the La Rams. So I look at those 365 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: two games and I take him out and I think, 366 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: all right, the guy was pretty damn good consistently. 367 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: Protecting the ball. 368 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: He did have two against the Rams in the thirty 369 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 2: eight to thirty seven victory, and his problem has been 370 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: the Rams, There's no doubt about that. 371 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: But take out those two. 372 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: Games in the middle of the year, and he wasn't 373 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: terrible protecting the ball. 374 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: I just think Sam has an incredible confidence in his 375 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 6: ability to throw balls through really tight windows, through a 376 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 6: whole lot of hands. And when you have that, the 377 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 6: results are twofold one some amazing completions, and he had 378 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 6: a couple of them on Saturday. 379 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 8: I went back and watched it on slow Moo and it's. 380 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: Like that barely missed this hand, That barely missed this hand, 381 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: and it got right to Jackson Smith and Jigba's arms 382 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 6: for a fifteen yard game. But when you do that, 383 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 6: a ball gets tipped, a ball hits a helmet, and 384 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 6: those funky things happen. 385 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 8: And that's how Sam's got in his. 386 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: Turnle Well, six of his fourteen interceptions, is that right? 387 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: Fourteen picks this year? I keep getting the numbers wrong. 388 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: What the hell am I looking at here? I see 389 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: fourteen picks for Sam darl on the Reggae This fourteen picks. 390 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: Six of the fourteen came against the Rams, which is 391 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: ludicrous that almost half of your interceptions come against one team, right, 392 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: that's crazy. So if he does it again this Sunday, 393 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: then you just tip your cap and say the Rams 394 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: had his numbers right. For whatever reason, the Rams had 395 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: this guy's number, and then you go into the offseason thinking, Okay, 396 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: this guy's got a RAMS. 397 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: Problem, Yeah, a turnover problem. He's got a RAMS. 398 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: Problem, which is an issue if you're in the NFC 399 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: West with the Rams, certainly. So I don't know, man, 400 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just not as concerned about him coughing 401 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: the ball up as other people are. I realize the 402 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: numbers are big, but I do also see a guy 403 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: that really kind of just had a couple of turns 404 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: and they happen to come against the same team. 405 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 6: I think the one thing that booy's my confidence is 406 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 6: is that nobody has more confidence. 407 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 8: In Sam Donald than Sam Donald. I mean, Sam's hearing 408 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: all this. 409 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 6: He's hearing, Oh, they're worried about my oblique, they're worried 410 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 6: about my fumbles, they're. 411 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 8: Worried about my interceptions. 412 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 6: You know, he's not worried about those things, Sam Donald, 413 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 6: And so that kind of booys my confidence going into this. 414 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 6: That's the third time in the last hour that you've 415 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 6: used the word booy. It is a very underrated word booie. 416 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: You don't get to use it very often unless you're 417 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: in a boat or talking about a right being reinforced 418 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: by something you just don't And you might be right. 419 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: I mean, he might be buoyed by the fact that 420 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: he's been in the NFL for seven years now. 421 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: And he knows what he's doing. 422 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: He might be buoyed by the fact that everybody's waiting 423 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: for this guy to fail. 424 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean, there's some there's some motivation now for this guy. 425 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: Right, and and and by the way, don't either, don't 426 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: kid yourself either. Sam Darnold is on is it a 427 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: three year deal with the Seahawks, But he's technically, let's 428 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: face it, from a reality perspective, he's got one more 429 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: year left on his contract. 430 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 8: So he's very similar to the geno. If he if 431 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 8: get out into you. 432 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: If he puts this team in the Super Bowl and 433 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: he wins it, he's going to be in a position 434 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: next offseason to ask for a lot of money from 435 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: this football team. And the Hawks might even be wise 436 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: to think about doing something now when this season's over. Right, 437 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you rip up next year entirely, 438 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: but extend him, get him locked in before the number. 439 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: Only goes up and it costs more. I mean, you're 440 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: getting a. 441 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: Bargain at thirty five million dollars in a lot of 442 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: ways with this guy. 443 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 11: When you think about the cap space we have, right 444 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 11: and we talked about Kenneth Walker obviously perhaps you know 445 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 11: around ten to twelve whatever an you think about a 446 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 11: week Woolen. But at the end of the day, if 447 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 11: you have that much space, and if you don't have 448 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 11: the holes you feel, do you just get out ahead 449 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 11: of it and say, you know what you're gonna ask 450 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 11: for sixty a year from now. If we can give 451 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 11: you fifty five now, then you know. I mean, we're 452 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 11: having this conversation. But the reality is, if Sam Donald 453 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 11: wins this is the super Bowl, yes, then if he's 454 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 11: a reason why, I kind of don't think you have 455 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 11: an option you have to pay him. 456 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 457 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: I just think you're again you're either talking about getting 458 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: ahead of it and doing something this offseason or you're 459 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: looking at uh. I mean, absolutely no question about it, 460 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: one way or the other. He's going to redo his 461 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: deal after the twenty six season. Yes, he's not going 462 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty seven with one year left on it. 463 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 6: But I don't know if Sam Donald is ever going 464 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: to command top five quarterback. 465 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: He wins the Super Bowl. He is, Yeah, not necessarily. 466 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 6: There's been a lot of quarterbacks that have one Super Bowls, 467 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 6: Nick Foles that have not that have not commanded top five. 468 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: Oh that was a backup. 469 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, I was just say more than that, do Jackson? 470 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: I mean, hang on, because I would say, forget top five. 471 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: He's getting a. 472 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 3: Raise, yes, yea, yeah, yeah, fifty million. 473 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 6: Sure, there's a difference between giving him a deserved raise 474 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 6: and breaking the bank for Sam Donald. Because, as I 475 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 6: tweeted this today, I fully believe that one of the 476 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 6: reasons that these four teams are in the AFC and 477 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 6: NFC Championship is that their quarterbacks, in their average yearly 478 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 6: salaries for the length of their deals are ranked sixteenth, eighteenth, 479 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 6: twenty eighth, and fortieth. I am not about to screw 480 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 6: with that and give a Dak Prescott contract to Sam Donald. 481 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: Well that's I think that's ridiculous though, to compare Dak 482 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: Prescott to Sam Donald because Sam Donald's two games away 483 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: from winning a title. But who's a better quarterback overall? Well, 484 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: who's had a better I don't really know. Because Donald 485 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: has been a starter for two years. It doesn't matter 486 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: about career. Also, who cares about career. Right now, Sam 487 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: Donald's the better quarterback. I mean, if you're telling me 488 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: that Sam Donald ends up having a better career than 489 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott over the next seven or eight seasons, I 490 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: could buy that. I mean as a starting quarterback, as 491 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: a legit everyday starting quarterback in the NFL, like the 492 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: guys just getting going. 493 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: Donald this is only his what thirty thirtieth. 494 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: Game in the last two years or whatever it is 495 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: as a as a starting quarterback, So I have no 496 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: idea where he's going to end up. I mean, I'm 497 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: not a big Dak fan. I know you're not either, 498 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: but look, he's gonna get a raise. I mean, just 499 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: look it. He's gonna get the highest paid quarterbacks in 500 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: the NFL. How many guys are making fifty million plus 501 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: right now in the NFL, right and that number is 502 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: going to go up and up and up and up. 503 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: So fifty million dollars next year or this offseason in 504 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: three or four years from now might be what thirty 505 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: five million dollars is today might be a gigantic bargain. 506 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: So I'm my original point was this, I think with 507 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: a short term deal that Donald's on every game he 508 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: plays in the playoffs is a big, big thing for 509 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: his resume to maybe get a big, fat, gigantic raising 510 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: a year. 511 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 11: Guys, you want to know how many quarterbacks in the 512 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 11: NFL have a contract that averages more than fifty. 513 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say ten, guys. How many Hayes. 514 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 11: Eleven eleven quarterbacks average fifty plus million dollars? 515 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 3: Wow? 516 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, Sam Darnold, he's gonna if he wins Super Bowl, he's. 517 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: Gonna ask you fifty five. Yeah, and you'll deserve it too. 518 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 7: Yep. 519 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 6: And again, making him the tenth to twelfth highest paid 520 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: quarterback in football. 521 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: I just don't want to make him the fourth highest 522 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: paid quarter are you're doing is getting ahead of the game. 523 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: But again, so what he's the fourth or fifth highest 524 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: paid guy today? Where does he end up in a 525 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: year from now? How many of those guys the near 526 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: the bottom of that list at one point? Where the 527 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: highest paid quarterback in the NFL? 528 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 11: I'm gonna guess everybody, because Mahomes averages right now and 529 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 11: I'm sorry, Prescott averages sixty. Jordan Loves at fifty five, 530 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 11: Trevor Lawrence is at fifty five, Joe Burrows at fifty five, 531 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 11: Josh Allen's at fifty five. 532 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: So all of them when they signed their deal. 533 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: All of them, Yeah, all of them. 534 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: More so, I mean, I'm not so concerned about where 535 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: a guy ranks today. I'm concerned about what I can 536 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: do to manage that as the cap goes up and 537 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: the contract gets bigger or excuse me, longer and longer. 538 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if he signs a deal that makes him 539 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: the fourth highest paid guy today, so what, he might 540 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: be the tenth highest paid guy tomorrow. 541 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: Big freaking deal. But we know this. 542 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: If he wins a Super Bowl, with the lack of 543 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: quarterbacks out there and some of the bums that are 544 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: getting jobs in the NFL right now, he's going to 545 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: be in demand and there's going to be a lot 546 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: of people wishing they'd sign him. 547 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 11: By the way, Jordan Love making fifty five million, how 548 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 11: much of the Hawks? 549 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 6: How much of the hawks demise in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, 550 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 6: and nineteen was because Russell went from making nothing to 551 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 6: a ton. 552 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: Part of it, but they also drafted terribly. 553 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 10: They did. 554 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: Look at their drafting. Now he did, right, all right, 555 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: let's do this. 556 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: Mike Gastono is on his way back from Miami, as 557 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: a national champion. How about that Indiana wins the national 558 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: freaking Championship, man unbelievable last night twenty seven to twenty 559 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: one over the Miami Hurricanes. 560 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: And really we're just. 561 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: Gonna put on the only Indiana fan that we know, 562 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: and that's the gas Man, so he'll join us coming 563 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: up next, coming back from Miami right here on ninety 564 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: three three KJRFM. 565 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Pod casting live from the R and R Foundation specialist 566 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: broad JAST Studio. 567 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: Now back to. 568 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: Softie and Dick powered by Emerald Queen. 569 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: Casino, the betting capital of the Northwest. 570 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: On Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRM. 571 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: All right, boys and girls, we are back on a 572 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: busy Tuesday night right here on ninety three three KJRFM. 573 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: Before we get to the hour of radio that everybody's 574 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: been waiting for, Cracking Weekly with Mike Benton coming up 575 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: next segment from seven to eight. 576 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: What do you say? 577 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: We welcome in really the only Indiana fan I know. 578 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: I know he was on the morning show this morning 579 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: and he's on with us from Miami before he takes 580 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: off to go home and celebrate Indiana's national title. Our 581 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: friend Mike Gastado and first of all Mike, congratulations, my man, 582 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: pulling for you, thinking about you the entire night last night. 583 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: And number two. If I would have told you, I 584 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: don't know five years ago that one of your favorite 585 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: teams is gonna win a title in the next five years, 586 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: where would Indiana football have been on that list? 587 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 7: For you, man, of my favorite teams? If you tell him, 588 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 7: I probably said Washington first, right, you know, they always 589 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 7: seem to be stacked up and close to being there. No, 590 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 7: Indiana wouldn't even have been on the list. I would 591 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 7: I'm one of the fans Signetti talks about that when 592 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 7: he got there. I would have said to him, coach, 593 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 7: if you could win seven or eight games a year 594 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 7: and get us to a Bowl and maybe even win 595 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 7: the ball game, will be ecstatic. I mean, that was 596 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 7: my expectation. I never saw this coming. I don't think 597 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 7: anybody did, exce that. Maybe him. He spoke it into existence, 598 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 7: you know, he said we're gonna do this, and he 599 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 7: kept yeah. I mean, you know, there's so many great 600 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 7: stories about him. One of the best that kind of 601 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 7: got lost in the shuffle and he was one year 602 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: off was his first big ten media Day, which they 603 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 7: hold up Indianapolis at the Lucas Oil Stadium. He said, yeah, 604 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 7: I wanted to come up because I want to see 605 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 7: where we're going to be playing this December for the 606 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 7: Big Ten Championship. Come on, man, And they didn't get there, 607 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 7: and that, I mean, he just kept saying outrageous stuff 608 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 7: and then cover you know, covering the checks and it's amazing. 609 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about what it was like to be 610 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: in that stadium last night, man. I mean, you mentioned 611 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: to me off the air it was nerve wracking, which 612 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 2: I would think makes it even more sweeter. Right that 613 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: there had to be some drama, you had to earn 614 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: this right to get to that championship last night, But 615 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: that that drive that resulted in that phenomenal Now, I 616 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: would assume immortal Fernando Mendoza touchdown run on fourth and four, 617 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: two fourth down decisions to go forth, the balls of 618 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: steel on signetti on that drive. 619 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: What's the reaction? 620 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: What was your reaction when he decided to go forward 621 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: on not one but two fourth down plays. 622 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 7: I was really nervous. But again I threw in with 623 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 7: this guy a long time ago. Like I said at 624 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 7: the start, I would have been in those people doubting 625 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 7: him a little bit. But after you watch for a 626 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 7: while and you see what he's doing, and you listen 627 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 7: to what he says, and you listen to players, it's like, 628 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 7: you know what, Okay, go for it. If that's what 629 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 7: you think is best, I'm gonna think it's best. Nevertheless, 630 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 7: it was nerve wracking in the stadium. I mean, it 631 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 7: was the game. It's funny how their postseason went. The 632 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 7: Ohio State game, the first game they played for the 633 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 7: Big Ten title, and this game against Miami were carbon 634 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 7: copies of each other. Yeah, just tense Ohio State more 635 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 7: low scoring, but just tense struggles where it felt like 636 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 7: at any given second the game could end with a 637 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 7: big play. Excuse me, so I was you know, it 638 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 7: was nerve right, you know, the driving at one point, 639 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 7: I'm my god, if Miami doesn't pick six or they'll 640 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 7: have the lead, right, you know which. That's the funny 641 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 7: thing is Miami never did have the lead, but Indiana 642 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 7: never got comfortable. Well, he went for it. I just thought, 643 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 7: you know what, he knows what he said. I was 644 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 7: nervous because he seemed to a second guess himself, do 645 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 7: I want to do this? Do I not he called 646 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 7: the time. I kind of like can the boor in 647 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 7: the Alabama game and the Rose Bowl where he went 648 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 7: through the whole let me the I think coaches talked 649 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 7: themselves into and out of things all game long. We 650 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 7: know that. So but you know, and again in the 651 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 7: rearview mirror. Now, yeah, I'm glad it was an epic game. 652 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 7: At the time, I was hoping for another Rose Ball. 653 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 7: I'm like, I could use a five touchdown winn. That'd 654 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 7: be it'd be just fuck or a Peach Bowl? Who 655 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 7: be beating the Peach Bowl? Do you remember? It's been 656 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 7: so long? And who was it we spanked in that game? 657 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 658 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 7: You live for Oregon getting thrilled like that. 659 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, most of the time, you're right, You're right. Who 660 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: am I kidding? But Mike, Mike, Mike Casting is with us. 661 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: He's he's in Miami, and I can tell your voice 662 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: how exhausted you are by the way. I mean, I 663 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: I remember feeling the same way a couple of years 664 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: ago during that Husky run. The difference is you got 665 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: the title and my team did not. So good for you. 666 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: But I mean not to be all corny on you, 667 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: but you've known me for a long time. 668 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 11: What is this? 669 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: What does this mean for Bloomington, Dude? I mean, you know, 670 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: what does this mean for the for the school, for 671 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: that town, for that community to be, Let's face it 672 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: kind of a doormat of college football one day and 673 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: then King of the Hill the next. 674 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 7: I think it's amazing. You know, basketball has always been 675 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 7: pretty good there, but it's been since nineteen eighty seven 676 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 7: that we want a basketball national championship. The university is 677 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 7: doing fine, and you know, the universities don't necessarily need 678 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 7: athletic success to have to have success, but it helps. 679 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: You know, the amount of people that were exposed to 680 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 7: Indiana as a school and then and this story. I 681 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 7: don't know, there's got to be some people out there 682 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 7: that are sick of Indiana, but I think the average 683 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 7: sports fan is like, this is the coolest thing ever. 684 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 7: Now by next year people will be sick. I'd be like, 685 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 7: all right, everybody for them to get their asses kicked. 686 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 7: But I think for now that everybody's like, God, this 687 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 7: is great. That the quarterbacks like a golden retriever and 688 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: the team's full of all these good guys at Signetti. 689 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 7: Seems like this great coach who doesn't have that streak, 690 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 7: a mean guy in him, and people said, talk all 691 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 7: the fame about Oh, I bet he's really yelling at 692 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 7: him and the players. I'll say, he never yells at us. 693 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 7: He just says what he wants and lets you know 694 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 7: that's what's expected, but doesn't do it in a screaming way. 695 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 7: It's big for the for the school and for the 696 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 7: for the and it's just big. The amount of fans 697 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 7: I mean, I said, if you're if you're a fan 698 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 7: of my age, if you're sixty five years old, you've 699 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 7: seen him beat Ohio State three times in your life, 700 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 7: You've seen him win the Big Ten twice in your life. 701 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 7: Before this run, you hadn't seen him win a Bowl 702 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 7: game since ninety one, and they've only won three bowl games, 703 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 7: So you know, you stay a fan of the team. 704 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: They weren't obviously they're fill in the stadium now, but 705 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 7: they were, and they're shots of like how small some 706 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 7: of the crowds. But for the most part they get 707 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 7: twenty five to thirty five thousand people go into games, 708 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 7: which is not bad for a team that's always getting 709 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 7: their teeth kicked in, right, and then to have this happened, 710 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 7: it's such a It's just a great feeling for everybody, 711 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 7: excuse me, everybody who along the way, you know, never 712 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 7: gave up on him and stuck with him. I like 713 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 7: to tell a story. My brother Mark has had season 714 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 7: tickets since nineteen seventy three, and he went to the game. 715 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 7: He wouldn't see it. You couldn't sell him. He get 716 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 7: like a dollar on a point. He was going to 717 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 7: every game and would get frustrated, but never lost faith 718 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 7: and never lost his love for him. And so you know, 719 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 7: being next to him last night, it was really fun, 720 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 7: you know, it was it was I don't know this. 721 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 7: The whole the whole experience has been surreal, but along 722 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 7: the way it stopped being surreal and I started believing. 723 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 7: And I'm not sure exactly when I mean, but if 724 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 7: somebody going, you know what, these guys you can't fake 725 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 7: being good in college football, right right? Yeah, you can't know, 726 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 7: and any guy it really in any kind of sport, 727 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 7: you just can't. He can't fake it. So eventually you go, well, 728 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 7: you know the old joke, Boy, you've ever seen a 729 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 7: team get luckier more often? I mean, it just it 730 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 7: just bam bam win you punch them them out feed 731 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 7: them a gift, and that was us for years on 732 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 7: the other end of that. So it's kind of fun 733 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 7: to be the guy delivering the bands instead of getting them. 734 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys earned it, man, there's no doubt. And 735 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 2: Mike uh, well, we'll have you in at some point 736 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: over the spring or summer, I'm sure, and kind of 737 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: dive into more stories about this and all that. But 738 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: i mean, look, I've known you for a long time. 739 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: I know how excited you were for that ninety five 740 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Mariner run and for the Sonics and the Finals and 741 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: the Mariners in two thousand that that that first Seahawks 742 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: Super Bowl obviously in two thousand and five. But I'm 743 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 2: just gonna go ahead and assume that this is number 744 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: one on your on your on your sports list as 745 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: a fan, uh and as a broadcast or whatever anything 746 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: you've ever been around in this business. 747 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: This has got to be top of the hill. 748 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 7: For you, on the only one that competes because of 749 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 7: the out of the Blue factory some of the stories 750 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 7: you mentioned, you know, like you could see the Seahawks 751 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 7: coming to the Super Bowl, you could see the Sonics 752 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 7: ninety four. Now, I mean they're getting better and better 753 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 7: it's not a shock that they got to the finals. 754 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 7: This one out of the blue, like the ninety five Mariners, 755 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 7: where you know, one minute they're getting beat by everybody, 756 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 7: the next minute they're playing for the American League championship. 757 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 7: And that's how this was. It's it's incredible, and I 758 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 7: did I'll plug a little thing here. I do one 759 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 7: of the national editors for Lindy's College Football magazine, and 760 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 7: they did a championship edition for Indiana and I think 761 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 7: will hit the news stand a little bit later this week. 762 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 7: I don't know if it'll be retailed in Seattle, but 763 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 7: I did a bunch of features for that. A bunch 764 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 7: of people contributed to it, so that was kind of 765 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 7: fun for me too to be involved in that. So 766 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 7: I'll put some stuff on my social test candles about 767 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 7: how you can get it if you're interested. I don't 768 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 7: know I anybody be interted out of here, but if 769 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 7: you want to read about this remarkable team and some 770 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 7: of the characters on it. And I think they do 771 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 7: a real good job with these magazines. So I'll pipe 772 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 7: up when it when the time. 773 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: Happened, now very interested, and I will now utter words 774 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: that I never thought I would say to you as 775 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: a college football fan, I am very jealous of you 776 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: and your team. 777 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 7: Man. 778 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: All right, so congratulations, get home, get some rest. Soak 779 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: it up, dude, enjoy this and we'll talk when you 780 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: get back home. 781 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: Man, appreciate it. 782 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 7: Bud, You're gonna be the first guy on the list going. 783 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 7: You know, I'm tired of Indiana. 784 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm tired. You know what I already am. 785 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 4: I was. 786 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 3: It was fine ten minutes ago. 787 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: Now the hell with you your loud mouth for crying 788 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: out loud. All right, go home, fly safe, and we'll 789 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: see what you get back. 790 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 7: Bud. Thanks, defy all right. 791 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: My gas to know with us in Miami. Unbelievable. I 792 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: mean people use that word a lot in this business. 793 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: Now this is unbelievable, Like it's even hard to believe. Now, 794 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: Indiana sixteen to zero national champions of college football. And 795 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: that guy right there, the gas man's soaking it all up. 796 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: Good for him, because that dude, trust me, deserves it. 797 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 7: All right. 798 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 3: We got out of here. Back tomorrow three cracking Weekly 799 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: Next