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Speaker 1: It's seven five and happy Thursday to everyone, and a

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Speaker 1: happy welcome back to the fifty five Caressey Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren David's becoming a regular fixture on this program,

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Speaker 1: and God bless him for spending time with my listeners

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Speaker 1: and me. Welcome back, Congressman Davidson. Thanks for the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to speak with you this morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you, Brian. Great to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: So who capitulated? I understand that Mike Johnson and Cinemajoria

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Speaker 1: leader Johnson have reached an agreement. They will be moving

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Speaker 1: forward with a Donald Trump approved I guess two track approach,

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Speaker 1: which sounds to me like the Democrats aren't going to

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Speaker 1: get anything that they were fighting and closing the government

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Speaker 1: over funding of ice. There's not going to be funding

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Speaker 1: for ice as I understand it, or parts of custom

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Speaker 1: and border patrol, everything else gets reopened. And then the

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Speaker 1: second tier of this two prong approach is for the

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Speaker 1: Republicans through reconciliation, bringing back the funding for ICE. So

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Speaker 1: if it all goes according to plan and reconciliation COO

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Speaker 1: only requires fifty one in the Senate. So if all

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Speaker 1: goes according to plan, the Democrats don't get anything at

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Speaker 1: all by way of ICE reforms, and ICE will ultimately

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Speaker 1: be fully funded under reconciliation.

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Speaker 2: Have I got that right, Congressman, Yeah, that's the plan.

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Speaker 2: They haven't communicated exactly what the sequence is because you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the Senate personally, I think the Senate made

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Speaker 2: a huge mistake by funding DHS with no funding not

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Speaker 2: just for ICE, but for customs and border patrol, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or Homeland Security Investigations, which you know, investigates all the

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Speaker 2: things related to secure borders and people that are here

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Speaker 2: lawfully or unlawfully and everything else. So I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: a crazy proposition. So you know, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: they're going to do that again and then say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we'll fix it later. I think they're just going to

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Speaker 2: be like, well, it's unfunded for now. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: had a text message exchange with the Speaker last night.

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Speaker 2: We've got a conference call later this morning and we'll

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Speaker 2: get a little or clarity there. But you know, I've

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Speaker 2: supported reconciliation as the pass since the last shutdown. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you guys aren't negotiating. Like, no, we are, in fact negotiating,

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Speaker 2: but let me show you what not negotiating is like,

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Speaker 2: this is a reconciliation where we don't even need your votes.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad they're finally calling this play call. You know,

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Speaker 2: better late than never. And in the meantime, the one

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Speaker 2: thing I've really wanted them to do is pass the

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Speaker 2: Shutdown Fairness Act, which is, if you're so essential, you've

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Speaker 2: got to be at work. The payroll clerk should be

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Speaker 2: essential too. You know, there are some people that aren't

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Speaker 2: working and are laid off effectively, you know, vendors that

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Speaker 2: aren't getting paid on time, projects that aren't launching, all

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Speaker 2: these things. They're consequential when there's a shutdown. But like

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Speaker 2: in the private sector, if you had your workers work

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Speaker 2: and didn't pay them, it's called payroll theft. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: a crime, and people go to jail for it, and

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Speaker 2: they should.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a logical, reasonable, seemingly bipartisan solution to this problem.

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Speaker 1: So we ensure that people get paid. How about these

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Speaker 1: Shutdown Fairness Act? Is there any opposition to it conceptually,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, because that seems me to be a no

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Speaker 1: brainer much in the same way, and I think you'll

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Speaker 1: get bipartisans support for at least when people when they

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Speaker 1: hold up their own paychecks when the government shuts down,

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Speaker 1: because it's simply a matter of fairness. Since they're the

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Speaker 1: ones that prevent the paychecks from going out, they should

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Speaker 1: suffer as much as people not getting a paycheck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's we haven't We don't know

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Speaker 2: for sure where the opposition is because the leadership of

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Speaker 2: My understanding is that in negotiations, Democrats don't like it

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Speaker 2: because it gives you know, Republicans leverage, and it gives

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Speaker 2: the president discretion to decide who's essential and not essential.

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Speaker 2: And they also don't like that there's a variation that

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Speaker 2: everyone would still get paid because that takes away their leverage,

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Speaker 2: and they're just they're using the workers as leveraging their negotiations,

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Speaker 2: and meanwhile, the people that are using the leverage are

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Speaker 2: And then I think it should be illegal at least,

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Speaker 2: you know, there could be shutdowns. I'm like, okay, that

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Speaker 2: stuff could happen, and you're negotiating over something and you say,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't think we need to keep

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Speaker 2: you're negotiating over that, fine, But if somebody is essential

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Speaker 2: guarding the federal prison you should have to pay those

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Speaker 2: because you have people that are not even coming in

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, this cool concept discretion. I'm thinking along the

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Speaker 1: lines of the nuclear option as well. Democrats may be

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Speaker 1: against this discretion and keeping people funded because Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: or the Trump administration would have control over that, but hey,

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Speaker 1: don't they anticipate taking over control of Congress down the road.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it then be their discretion to decide what does

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Speaker 1: and what doesn't get paid. I mean, it's like nuclear option.

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Speaker 1: Demo Republicans seem reluctant to do away with the sixty

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Speaker 1: their woke, crazy policies. So do we really want to

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: They may very well do that anyway if they take

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Speaker 1: back over Congress. But isn't that the point If both

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Speaker 1: a question of time when the parties flip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just neither side wants to be the one

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Speaker 2: to do it, except that, you know, Democrats, Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is a you know, an analogy to the Americans were

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Speaker 2: And you know why are the Republicans fighting like the British? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we should be willing to do what it takes to

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Speaker 2: win here too. And it seems like the consistent thing

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Speaker 2: to advance their agenda? And Republicans are like, well, it's

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Speaker 2: not very sporting to do it that way, you know,

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Speaker 2: which is you know, no, we said we would do this.

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Speaker 2: We should find a way to win and do the

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Speaker 2: President Trump is putting pressure on the House and Senate

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Speaker 2: to say, look, you guys need to get together, do

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Speaker 2: reconciliation and get me a bill that funds everything. And

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Speaker 2: you say better late than ever. I wish we had

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Speaker 2: called this playback in, you know, September October, when we

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Speaker 1: Well and nothing in this proposed resolution, this two prong

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Speaker 1: happened to the Save America Act. Congressman Davidson, we have

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened to the Say of America Act.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to vote on it. There are some

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Speaker 2: Republican Senators that don't support it, allegedly, but they're hiding.

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Speaker 2: They don't come out. They don't have to vote, and

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Speaker 2: it on real cloture for sixty votes, and culture isn't

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Speaker 2: really a vote on the underlying issue. You could vote,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, we should have a vote on the floor,

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Speaker 2: knowing that Democrats are going to kill it, and you

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Speaker 2: So I think that you know, there's a handful of

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Speaker 2: but that's not true. Reconciliation spends money. You can either

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Speaker 2: raise or lower taxes. You can increase your decree spending,

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Speaker 2: you know, in aggregate or in little granular ways about

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Speaker 2: increased funding for ice, for example, But you can't do policy.

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Speaker 2: There's something called the bird rule, and it always gets

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Speaker 1: So is this to suggest that cent the majority leader

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Speaker 1: Thoon is protecting these wavering Republicans by not bringing it

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Speaker 1: should want to know where the senators are on this

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Speaker 1: If the Republicans that want to vote against it, let

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Speaker 1: protecting them for that, isn't he in a very important

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's exactly it. And he's protecting them

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Speaker 2: on a lot of votes. And yeah, here's the other thing. Look,

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Speaker 2: I mean, scorecards are hard to say, you know, anyone

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Speaker 2: our position as an organization is everyone should have voted

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Speaker 2: yes whatever. It's just yes or no on the bill.

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Speaker 2: So anyone particular score, you know, might be hard to

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Speaker 2: in the nineties on a lot of these scorecards. But

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Speaker 2: there's like fifteen Republican senators that are scoring f's on

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Speaker 2: You know, Reagan said, you know, I want somebody to

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Speaker 2: barely fifty percent of the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, as of course, scorecards are important to pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Congressman Davidson, you like me and my

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Speaker 1: pay attention to that. When it comes time to November elections.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how many people to go to the ballot

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Speaker 1: a scorecard on any given issue. Let's continue with congress

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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson. We've talked about whether the long lines at

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Speaker 1: A very happy Friday Eve to you, Congressman Warren Davidson

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Speaker 1: on the phone. We're talking about the government shutdown. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we have a path to end the shutdown. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: shutdowns brought about a heapload of pain on folks, most

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Speaker 1: notably those traveling going through airports and having to stay

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Speaker 1: in TSA lines that last hours and hours and hours.

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Speaker 1: Why TSA is not getting paid? A lot of them

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Speaker 1: he's got to pursue employment elsewhere. Clearly this has been

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Speaker 1: a problem, It's been widely reported, Congressman Davidson. But the

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Speaker 1: abuse that's been heaped down upon the traveling American public,

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Speaker 1: not to mention the TSA agents working without pay, but

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Speaker 1: people are really feeling it. They have missed flights, they've

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Speaker 1: So this is what our elected officials are willing to

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Speaker 1: meet down on the voting public. Question is who's going

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Speaker 1: to get blamed for? Isn't this all about ICE agents

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Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty basic. Who's withholding their votes? Democrats?

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Speaker 2: And why are they withholding their votes? Because they want

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Speaker 1: So well, I hope we get it. We hope the

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Speaker 1: voting public understands exactly what you just articulated. Because I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's the stakes. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's certainly bringing a bright light of common

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I can't make any sense out

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Speaker 1: Kscene Morning Show. Congressman Davidson, I wish you and your

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Speaker 1: family a very happy Easter this weekend. I hope you

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Speaker 1: have an excellent time, and I'll look forward to having

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, Blessings to you all your listeners, and have

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Speaker 2: an awesome Easter.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. We'll try to do that. Folks,

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Speaker 1: stick around this