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Speaker 2: You you know, takeaways can be they often have an

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Speaker 4: The Denver Nuggets came.

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Speaker 3: Right now that they're in an incredibly soft part of

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Speaker 4: And as you know, Denver was also down two starters.

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Speaker 4: But it's up to you.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't want to apologize. Well, you know it

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Speaker 4: This, Well, yeah he should.

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Speaker 4: Let's just put this way.

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Speaker 4: I did you were you? Did you hang up because

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Speaker 2: Now they're routinely giving up zero one and two. They're

441
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Speaker 2: almost Lamaire like defensively right now, and they're winning more games.

442
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Speaker 2: They won an OT again last night, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: hearing a peep from you now.

444
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Speaker 4: Isn't that funny?

445
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Speaker 3: It's hilarious because I will tell you this, Dan, literally,

446
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Speaker 3: you are the only person that ever.

447
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Speaker 5: Asked me my Hotey opinion.

448
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Speaker 3: So so it's just funny how that happens. Is the

449
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Speaker 3: only reason I haven't been able to give them of

450
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Speaker 3: latest because we haven't talked about it.

451
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Speaker 5: Nobody else wants to hear me on that.

452
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Speaker 3: But I believe, I will say, we can run the

453
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Speaker 3: tape back. But I do believe the last time that

454
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Speaker 3: you tried to draw me in didn't work to the battle.

455
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Speaker 3: I think I said that the Wild have this weird

456
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Speaker 3: thing where every year they play terribly for a little while,

457
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Speaker 3: and then they go on a streak where they never

458
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Speaker 3: lose for like thirty games, and they get right back

459
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Speaker 3: into it and get everyone excited, and then you know,

460
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Speaker 3: maybe they lose in the first round.

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Speaker 5: Again. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: But but This is very much like a hockey season

463
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Speaker 3: where they I don't know, you look at them and

464
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Speaker 3: they're just like, what in the heck is going on?

465
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Speaker 3: This is a disaster, and then all of a sudden

466
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Speaker 3: everything falls into place. Puck lucked you a defensive intensity,

467
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Speaker 3: all that stuff, and so happy for him. It's really

468
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Speaker 3: nice to kind of take a little bit of the

469
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Speaker 3: pressure off. But let's let's see what happens in April

470
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Speaker 3: and May.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I mean it's up to you.

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Speaker 2: I just thought, maybe, you know, it shows a little

473
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Speaker 2: bit of grace there, a little bit a little bit

474
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Speaker 2: of humility, but probably too much to askiving.

475
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Speaker 3: Is next week? Maybe maybe a Monday of next week.

476
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Speaker 4: A little bit that might be the answer. Thanks John,

477
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Speaker 4: that might be it. Well chat, we'll chat next week, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: That's Johnny Athletic. I forgot to mention to him. This

480
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Speaker 2: might be a bit disappointing to hardcore basketball purists. I

481
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Speaker 2: think the Wolves have a game coming up fairly soon

482
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Speaker 2: later this month with the Spurs, and now the word

483
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Speaker 2: is calf injury. He's sidelined for several weeks and they're

484
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Speaker 2: becoming very anal around the league about calf injuries because

485
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Speaker 2: of this belief that it's a precursor to the possibility

486
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Speaker 2: of blowing out your achilles.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could say, well, it's easier to beat

489
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Speaker 2: the Spurs without him, but I mean you want to

490
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Speaker 2: see the best, don't you. And Wenby has done just

491
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Speaker 2: some freaky stuff this year. Yes, there's no question about it.

492
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Speaker 2: He's on a highlight reel every night on hundred percent.

493
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Speaker 2: All right, what's the plan. Bottom of the hour, We'll

494
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Speaker 2: try to get to a Vikings talking point, We'll prepare

495
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Speaker 2: for Ben Lieber and then we've got Chris Carter at

496
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Speaker 2: five o'clock.

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Speaker 6: Uncle, don't get them.

498
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Speaker 7: You don't show up what you can do.

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Speaker 2: Hockey community is not afraid to slash tires. That seems

500
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Speaker 2: a bit excessive. Oh, they shouldn't do that, doesn't it. Yes,

501
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Speaker 2: that's I don't want to encourage that.

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Speaker 4: No, we do not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he meant it. I think he was

504
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Speaker 2: just it's it's kind of the bit. Apparently I'm the

505
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Speaker 2: only one that ever had Well, it's because you know this,

506
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Speaker 2: Johnny's very sly about throwing in the hockey community. Jab

507
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Speaker 2: he did in that last the last answer, I mean,

508
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Speaker 2: come on, it's it's right there for everybody, isn't it.

509
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I'm just saying he can't. I

510
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: don't think he can conveniently leave that out at this point.

511
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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this in this segment. Let's get

512
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Speaker 2: to well, let's just let's go to the very end

513
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Speaker 2: of the ball game. Let's do the what we like

514
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: to call the ecstasy and the agony.

515
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Speaker 8: First intent from the Bear's fifteen Addison in motion to

516
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Speaker 8: the last takes the snap. Now, four men rush McCarthy

517
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Speaker 8: to the end zone.

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Speaker 9: Job listen, just in the nick of time, and we're

519
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Speaker 9: tied at sixteen. B JJ McCarthy, well done.

520
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Speaker 10: You gotta give a ton of credit to the offensive line.

521
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Speaker 10: The Bears one with a four man rush, and McCarthy

522
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Speaker 10: had all the time in the world to allow Addison

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Speaker 10: on as a second really through the zone to get

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Speaker 10: to the end zone. And it was a beautiful back

525
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Speaker 10: shoulder throw and Jordan Aison comes up with the biggest

526
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Speaker 10: catchup the day.

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Speaker 8: Reikert snap spot the Rykert.

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Speaker 9: Guess how about this seventeen sixteen Minnesota coming from the

529
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Speaker 9: depths of nowhere.

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Speaker 5: They've gone from the.

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Speaker 8: Outthouse to the penthouse.

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Speaker 9: We have fifty seconds to go in the game.

533
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Speaker 6: And just like.

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Speaker 8: Week one, when the Vikings trailed seventeen to six into

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Speaker 8: the fourth quarter, they trailed sixteen to three, these Bears

536
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Speaker 8: into the fourth quarter and now they lead seventeen sixteen.

537
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Speaker 8: The Bears have three timeouts. Almost cool Shrepper kicking into

538
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Speaker 8: the east side of the US Bank Stadium. Boom, a

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Speaker 8: shorter kick by design DuVernay from his own three hits right, five, ten,

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Speaker 8: fifteen to twenty.

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Speaker 9: It's a nice block from Blackwell, Eric Gilson trying to

542
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Speaker 9: run him down with Bill Record and just Blackwell make

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Speaker 9: that Devin DuVernay out of bounds, deepened Vikings territory. Devin

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Speaker 9: DuVernay with a cold blooded return of fifty seven yards

545
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Speaker 9: and with forty two seconds to go in the game,

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Speaker 9: Minnesota leads seventeen sixteen and the Bears have the ball

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Speaker 9: at the Vikings thirty nine yard line.

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Speaker 10: A wall you talk about disappointing. Dubernat was able to

549
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Speaker 10: catch his football on a near side and in bend

550
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Speaker 10: it all the way to the opposite side on the field.

551
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Speaker 10: What a block by Blackwell and Tyler Baddy just wasn't

552
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Speaker 10: able to get stay in your lanes. Huge, huge, huge

553
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Speaker 10: mistake by the special team. Now the Bears started their

554
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Speaker 10: own four yard line.

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Speaker 4: You can't give an inch right here, now, you can't.

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Speaker 6: H Oh.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even include the game winning field goal. I

558
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Speaker 2: thought that was going to be the the No, he's

559
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Speaker 2: going to be part of the agony. No, just the

560
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Speaker 2: ecstasy and the agony. Yeah, well, I mean it's set

561
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Speaker 2: up by that that play. But and as I said,

562
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Speaker 2: I thought, I thought the Bears were being way too

563
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Speaker 2: presumptuous about their field goal kicker, who has a good

564
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Speaker 2: he's accurate, but doesn't have like compared to a lot

565
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Speaker 2: of these these these new fangled kickers, he does not

566
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Speaker 2: have a cannon for for a leg. I don't think

567
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Speaker 2: like Will the Thrill like Will Yeah, like several even

568
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: our guy. Yeah, well that's what you mean, Will the Thrill.

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Speaker 2: That's there's several Will of thrills. I forgot that. That's

570
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Speaker 2: one of our nicknames for him. So I mean I'm

571
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: trying to fit. I mean that made it crueler, right

572
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Speaker 2: if the if the Vikings had just I'm at last drive,

573
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: you know, turn it over on downs rather than scoring

574
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Speaker 2: in an odd sort of way, wouldn't it have been

575
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Speaker 2: less painful. I'm not saying it wouldn't have hurt. I

576
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: think it became crueler. It's the old game of god.

577
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: It's not we're done, we're not very good, and they go, well,

578
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Speaker 2: let's take the victory.

579
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Speaker 4: What the hell? And looks good?

580
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Speaker 6: Good?

581
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Speaker 2: So now it's all I think it. Actually it's it's

582
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: where the football gods really can be cruel. Where they

583
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: going all, how about a kickoff return that puts them

584
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: in basically what they need? Like three runs to get

585
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: in the field goal ran, Yes, and really it wasn't

586
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: until the third one that they got what they really need.

587
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: That's true, Like that was a big sneaky So one

588
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: of the runs they lost yard, yes, yes, this was

589
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: the second down run. One of the two might have

590
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: been both we bowed up and then we didn't, and

591
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: then they ended up. I thought there they ended up.

592
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Speaker 2: I think it was fourth and one because I thought, well,

593
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Speaker 2: you better try to get another first down, you better

594
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Speaker 2: try to get more and I know you're not gonna

595
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: throw there, but I wasn't convinced that the kicker was

596
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: going to make it. But he did, and the Bears

597
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: are in first place. In the division.

598
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Speaker 4: It's it's.

599
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Speaker 2: It's mind boggling. And I mentioned earlier the fascinating contrast.

600
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Speaker 2: Somebody in fact wrote about this, but I don't know

601
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: that they used this particular quote that I noticed on

602
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: the Bears. I went back and forth between the Vikings

603
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: postgame here on the on the fan on iHeart, and

604
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: the Bears post game to get reaction.

605
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Speaker 4: And the most.

606
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Speaker 2: Illuminating moment for me regarding Ben Johnson and the Bears

607
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Speaker 2: after that game was somebody said, how would you evaluate

608
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: your quarterbacks play today?

609
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Speaker 4: Here's this was his answer. I'm not sure. We're gonna

610
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 4: have to look at the film and I'm thinking, whoa.

611
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Speaker 2: After you win? And by the way, he wasn't great.

612
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: But my point is Ben Johnson his approach. Now again,

613
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Speaker 2: this is year two for Kala, but year one with

614
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: him has been a lot more challenging in public where

615
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: he has not it's not been a better roses where

616
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: he's just constantly offering a praise or you know, he

617
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: had some good throws and he had some throws we

618
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'd like to take back and we're a

619
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Speaker 2: work in progress. It was got to look at the tape.

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Speaker 2: I can't say they won the game, and we'll see. Now,

621
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Speaker 2: maybe the longer that you know Koc works with JJ,

622
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Speaker 2: he'll reach a point where he'll feel comfortable being a

623
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Speaker 2: little bit more blunt in public, or maybe even think

624
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: there's an advantage to being a little bit more blunt

625
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: in public.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure because and I got to tell you

627
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Speaker 4: one other thing. I get it on the drops.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there are a few drops, but I'm not putting

629
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Speaker 2: those drops close to the same level of McCarthy's wildness.

630
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Speaker 2: In fact, I would argue that on at least two

631
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: of those throws they were catchable, but they were not

632
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: great throws. And in this effort to I guess, make

633
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: sure we remember that's not just about him, and boy

634
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: he didn't get helped out there. We lose our minds

635
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: and this stuff. Bears had several drops too, and I

636
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: didn't hear anything. I didn't hear anything about that from

637
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: the bear's head coach. He was about, as I said,

638
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: as board with and as disinterested in giving his own

639
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: quarterback any praise at all. So I found it an

640
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: interesting approach. And maybe it has something to do with

641
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: Kable's personality. Maybe he just maybe I'm reading too much

642
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: into it. But generally after a victory, right, even if

643
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: there was a victory not born of great offense. It's

644
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: not like they finished the game with a great offensive flourish.

645
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Speaker 4: But that's not the time where the coach.

646
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Speaker 2: Usually the coach goes to the tape where he's mad

647
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: they lost the game, right you go, I got a look,

648
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not in the mood to get

649
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: very specific. And by the way, Camp Williams is coming

650
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: off two great finishing finishes where he came back and

651
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: won the game. So maybe a little bit more tough

652
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: love in Chicago, And it ain't nothing tough about the

653
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: love here right now. Right now, it's all excuses and

654
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: fundamentals and we're hanging in and he's doing everything he can.

655
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: The only guy, you know, the quarterback whisper who was

656
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: tougher on him on the broadcast was Tom Brady. Brady

657
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: basically said, look, I get it what all other you

658
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: guys are saying about this is but I you're you're

659
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: you're a professional player.

660
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: This is your second year.

661
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: Even if you didn't play all that much last year,

662
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: you come you come from a very good program. Yeah,

663
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: there's there's gonna be a lot expected of you from

664
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: the beginning. It can't just be well, I'm going to

665
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: need extra time to figure this whole thing out.

666
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes.

667
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: Let's break come back to Nacho's view on what took place,

668
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: whether he agreed with me that I had no problem

669
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: with kicking the ball, not kicking the ball through the

670
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: through the end zone, which I know a lot of

671
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: people now do. Funny after the fact, we'll get into that.

672
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: We'll get his Hotsplash Player of the game, a quickie

673
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: version of liber because we've got Chris Carter coming up

674
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: at five as well. All right, quick hit a little

675
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: a little shorter than usual with Nacho, because we've got

676
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: Chris Carter at the top of the hour. Guards you

677
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: reminded me that he was at the game yesterday. Nacho

678
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: whether us via the Conneticot Water Systems hotline, and of

679
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: course his appearance as usual brought to you by Sierra

680
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: Nevada Brewing Company. Perhaps we get started with your Hopsplash

681
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: Player of the Game, and then we can get into

682
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: a couple other areas quickly. But let's sort of change

683
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: the the usual routine.

684
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 8: We have here.

685
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 4: Who are you nominating or sighting this week.

686
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, good to be with you and

687
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 7: tell Chris Carter said, pullo the stud and let's see

688
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 7: the Hopsplash. Player of the game is not just the

689
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 7: guy that I interviewed after the game. I'm not just

690
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 7: picking him just because it's convenient. I actually when I

691
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 7: watched back the film, I noticed what he was doing

692
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 7: during the game, and I'm like, okay, I just need

693
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 7: to like confirm that he actually played solidly, not just

694
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 7: for a couple of plays with throughout, but all right,

695
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 7: guard Will fries Is he's a special player, man, Like

696
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 7: he has been out there just grinding, quietly grinding, and

697
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 7: I thought he played a really solid game. And you

698
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 7: watch the things that they ask him to do, not

699
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 7: just blocking the guys in front or Comba blocking and

700
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 7: getting to the second level. I mean, of all the

701
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 7: guys that poll on our offensive line, he probably pulls

702
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 7: the most, so they're using him in that capacity as well.

703
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 7: So it kind of just shows his athleticism, you know,

704
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 7: his toughness when he's blocking people, and if you watch

705
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 7: the way he finishes, like he just brings an attitude

706
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 7: every single stamp. So I really appreciate what he's doing,

707
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 7: So he's my hotsplash player of the game outstanding.

708
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: One of the debate points that, then, this is what

709
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: makes the game of professional football the most popular by far,

710
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: is is everybody can offer up an opinion on a

711
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: play call, or on a decision, or whatever the case

712
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: may be. And the big one after yesterday was the

713
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: decision to not try to kick out of.

714
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 4: The end zone once the Vikings got that late lead.

715
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: Again, I think some of that is because of what

716
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: ended up happening, But I'm curious to get your view,

717
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you've spoken about this yet,

718
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: but I had no problem kicking to the two.

719
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: I actually, I know he's a great return guy.

720
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: But given that the but the Bears only needed three

721
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: and I think three time outs left, I don't want

722
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: to concede the thirty five yard line in a situation

723
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: where a three points means I lose the game. I

724
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: think it was the right call. I obviously it ended

725
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: up being a worst case scenario. Where were you on

726
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: whether they should have just kicked it and accepted the

727
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: idea that the Bear started the thirty.

728
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 7: Five I'm with you on that one. I actually I

729
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 7: thought about it for a brief moment, But I'm like,

730
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 7: we got a pretty good kick cover team, and I

731
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 7: don't know, like, don't you want to make them earn it,

732
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 7: like earn every yard, you know, like we're going to

733
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 7: put our best guys against your best special teams guys

734
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 7: and let's see who ends. Now, it did blow up

735
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 7: in our face, we know that. But you know, when

736
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 7: the balls kicked, I thought that was the right decision

737
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 7: and the right call. And you know, if we you know,

738
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 7: played out and we pinned them back on let's just

739
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 7: say the twenty yard line, the old touchback spot. You know,

740
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 7: it's fifteen more yards that exactly. No, you know, like

741
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 7: that could have been the difference in the game. So

742
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 7: I like the idea just to kick it off and

743
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 7: let him return it.

744
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't have a problem with it.

745
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: So a lot of people, and I think you may

746
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: have talked some about this, they're noting the way McCarthy

747
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: finished on that last drive, and they're going with, you know,

748
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: maybe we go more no huddle, maybe when there's less

749
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: that in that situation, there's less to think about and

750
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 2: he can just sort of fling the ball.

751
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: Is that over simplifying things? Is there something to it.

752
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: Is anything that the Vikings and koc Can can learn

753
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: to try to incorporate that might give him a better

754
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: chance to settle down in other parts of the game.

755
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: Or is it just apples and oranges?

756
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 7: You know, I wish it were that simple. I definitely

757
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 7: think in those two man interurills, you're doing you know,

758
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 7: you're doing less check with mees at the line right.

759
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 7: You know, you are just kind of calling the play

760
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 7: and whatever happens happens, and you know the center's going

761
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 7: to make their call and they're going to get right.

762
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 7: But a lot of times you don't have time to

763
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 7: really diagnose like, oh is this guy tipping a blitz

764
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 7: or are they tipping a coverage? You just have to

765
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 7: play it out. So I do think, you know, you

766
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 7: can maybe take a little bit of that simplification, but

767
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 7: it's not. It's just not that easy. And the thing

768
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 7: is the other part of it is in two minute drill,

769
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 7: you're doing less play action to the defense. You're not

770
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: trying to fool them. It's like, Okay, we're just playing

771
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 7: seven on seven out here, and and I don't think

772
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 7: that that's sustainable. I mean, we've seen this a lot

773
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 7: of times with different quarterbacks in different situations where like, wait, well,

774
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 7: what can't we just play because it doesn't work like that,

775
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 7: you know, it just it just doesn't. It's gonna catch

776
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 7: up to you gotta find more balance. And we talk

777
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 7: about it all the time. I mean even leading up

778
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 7: to this game, Mike mink we run the football a

779
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 7: little bit more and we got more of a commitment

780
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 7: to the run, and we saw that the offense I think,

781
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 7: functions better like that. You get more more pass protection

782
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 7: in those situations if you're just throwing the ball willy

783
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 7: nilly fifty five times a game and seven on seven,

784
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 7: you're gonna get beat and you're gonna get picked off,

785
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 7: and you're gonna get at a whole bunch.

786
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: So the he's not the first young quarterback to be erratic,

787
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: but even by erratic standards, I mean, the wildness high

788
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: I think is kind of symbolized by the on the

789
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: on the JJ play was pretty alarming, I think, and

790
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: and you know, pretty unusual even by young quarterback standards.

791
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Do you have any theories on what happens?

792
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 6: Is it?

793
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 10: Is it?

794
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 2: You know you want to say, well, sometimes he gets

795
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: sped up.

796
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 4: I don't know. Is it? Is it mechanics? Is it?

797
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: You know, the basic stuff that that the head coach

798
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: keeps talking about. Is it in his head where no

799
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: matter what he says publicly about how I'm fine, I

800
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: take responsibility, but I'm in and I'm he's you know,

801
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: he's he's he's shaking hands on the sideline. We'll get

802
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: him next time. And he sounds like he's not let

803
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: anything get to him. If there's a chance that some

804
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: of this stuff is getting to.

805
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 7: Him, you know, it might. I mean, I wish I

806
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 7: had more insight on what really goes into throwing mechanics.

807
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 7: My my, just like very novice guess is that he's

808
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 7: just not transferring his weight, you know, more forward, you know,

809
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 7: like you're seeing you know, the like the the ball

810
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 7: that he sailed early in the game, Justin's making an

811
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 7: outcut towards their sideline and he know he just airmailed

812
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 7: it right, and there wasn't there wasn't people, and there

813
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 7: weren't players in front of him. The pocket wasn't collapsing

814
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 7: in those clean situations. It's like, well, what really happened there?

815
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 7: And it just seems like he's not he's not transferring

816
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 7: all of that weight from his back foot to his

817
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 7: front foot. It looks like he is, but there must

818
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 7: be something mechanically going on where the release point is

819
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 7: coming up, you know, you know, behind the midpoint or something.

820
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 7: I don't know, that's my best guess because when you

821
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 7: see he had another play similar to uh to Justin Jefferson,

822
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 7: but it was more of an indcut and it was

823
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 7: early in the game. It might have been the second

824
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 7: drive of the game where he stepped up in the

825
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 7: pocket and where he was literally moving forward like his

826
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 7: body weight is and he delivers a dart right on

827
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 7: his numbers, and it's like, well, that's the exaggeratory look

828
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 7: of the weight transfer going forward because he's actually moving forward.

829
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 7: But when he's in a static position, he's setting his

830
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 7: feet and he's you know, he's turning his hips. But

831
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 7: is he really turning his hips and transferring the weight

832
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 7: from the back foot to the front foot. I don't

833
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 7: know if that's not even it, that's not it. But

834
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 7: I look at those two different plays and I'm like, well,

835
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 7: the difference is the weight's going forward on the one

836
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 7: where he's escaping and climbing the pocket, and that's why

837
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 7: it looks so good, and those static throws get a

838
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 7: little erratic because he's not transferring that weight.

839
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Last question for you today, and I appreciate your indulgence

840
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: since we have a crystal earlier than I originally anticipated.

841
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Are you of the mind? I think you've been all

842
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: along the guy. One of the guys just said you

843
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: just got to play him. I mean, this is it,

844
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: this is your few, this is the guy you decided

845
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: you got to find out about him, You got to

846
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: let him play through stuff. Is there any hesitation in that,

847
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: the danger of if he can continues to have these

848
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: sorts of highs and lows and quarterback rankings.

849
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: Where you go, Man, I don't want to mess with it.

850
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to like get traumatized mentally here that

851
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: it might be better to have him sit for a while,

852
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: or do you say nope, full speed ahead, training wheels

853
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: have to stay off. Chances are the season is pretty

854
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: close to, you know, being done in terms of a

855
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: playoff race if they lose the next week or two,

856
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: and you just got to keep throwing them out there

857
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: and get give him every minute you can.

858
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a tough love situation for me, and unfortunately, Yeah,

859
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 7: the offense is gonna at times suffer from it. You know,

860
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 7: your star player is going to be frustrated at times.

861
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 7: But I'm my guess is they all understand it. This

862
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 7: is just what it looks like to kind of go

863
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 7: through these rough patches. So my advice is you'll you'll

864
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 7: ride with him all the way through the season. If

865
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 7: that means that you are non competitive in some games,

866
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 7: does that mean that the defense is going to be

867
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 7: set up on a short field because the turnovers and interceptions. Yes,

868
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: because when he goes back and he watches the film

869
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 7: and they get to learn his personality and what he

870
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 7: does really well and what he can handle when they

871
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 7: go in the offseason, that's all such valuable information to

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Speaker 7: know to chew on, to dissect, and to motivate. And

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Speaker 7: that's what you want of a young player like Okay,

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Speaker 7: I have these four or five things that I have

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Speaker 7: to work on this offseason, and that's when you make

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Speaker 7: the biggest strides. So he's going to make it. Every player,

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Speaker 7: whether you're a bust of a first round pick or not,

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Speaker 7: you make the biggest strides from year one to year two.

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Speaker 7: And I already like so much of what I see

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Speaker 7: that I'm already excited to see what he can look

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Speaker 7: like in the Tony twenty sixth version.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for the time as always, well chat next week.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Ben, all right, sounds good.

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Speaker 2: See Nacho Lieber Ben Leever helping us out. And we're

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Speaker 2: cutting it a little short because Chris Carter is scheduled

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Speaker 2: to join us next If you have questions for him,

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Speaker 2: hit the branch on Brian Cafe in text line six

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Speaker 2: four six eighty six. He was in attendance as guards,

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Speaker 2: he reminds me, very prominently in attendance yes day the game.

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Speaker 2: We'll get his reaction and you know, as always with Chris,

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Speaker 2: get into a couple of other issues as well.

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Speaker 4: Stay tuned.