1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: The AFC Championship game coming up this Friday. Very excited 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: about that, and sorry, this Sunday. We're Friday. This Sunday 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: is the game, and I've joined a studio by Shelby Harris. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just I literally got in the door 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: from locker room moments ago. How are you? 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. It's freezing out, but I enjoy it. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: You feel at home? This is Cleveland weather. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: No, this is warmer than Cleveland weather. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Right now, you're in shorts, aren't you? 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: I am why I haven't been in I haven't been 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: home since about like ten ten am, eleven o'clock, just 13 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: running around. 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: Ain't going home that kind of party, huh. 15 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I was getting my toe worked. Oh okay, So I 16 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: was playing on going home changing and then I got 17 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: caught up at my one of my apploytments. 18 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: And so now I'm here, now you're here, and now 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: we're going to be breaking down an AFC Championship game. 20 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I am on Sunday. 21 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: I'm excited. 22 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: How do you? 23 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: How do you feeling about this one? For the Broncos, 24 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: I'd be nervous. 25 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's purely because it's that's a terrible time 26 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: for your first game. 27 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean you, you guys play the Patriots, So what 28 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: can you tell me? 29 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: They're all about being ahead of the sticks. And it's 30 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: very simple. You know, if they want to always either 31 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: be ahead, ahead of the sticks or get back on track. 32 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: You know, that's how the Patriots work. So what I 33 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: mean by being ahead of the sticks is they like 34 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: to be second and medium. They don't want it to 35 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: be second and ten. They like second and five, second 36 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: and six. You know, So if they're going to run 37 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: the ball, like we all know, they're gonna run the 38 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: ball and try to get ahead of the sticks, like 39 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: I said before, try to they get the second and 40 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: second and medium, and then if it's not, they're going 41 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: to do something to make it more third and medium. 42 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: Like that. They're never trying to be in third and 43 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Long's second and long situations, and they're really good at it. 44 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: They've pretty much stayed out of a lot of those 45 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: situations all year. 46 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: But you're nervous about this one. 47 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: Anytime a team loses their starting quarterback, I would be nervous. 48 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Okay, no matter how. 49 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Much face you might have in the backup. 50 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I would be members bow knicks. You'd be like feel 51 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: good about it. 52 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: I would think that it would actually be a very 53 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: good matchup. And the one thing that Bo gives you, though, 54 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: is I believe that if the Broncos would have the 55 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: ball last and Bau would have the ball, like that 56 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: belief that he would go down and win the game 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: for them is there. That's what you got to believe 58 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: in when like, as a starting quarterback out there, Now, 59 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: do you necessarily believe that with Jared said him out there? 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. And also it's not necessarily even a 61 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: skill if he has other reps, you know what I mean, 62 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: he hasn't been in that situation, and so those are 63 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: reasons to be worrisome. But the reasons I'm optimistic that defense. 64 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: That defense and also the offensive line. Those right there 65 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: are the two things that can win you games even 66 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: if you don't have a quarterback. Look at Joe Flacco 67 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: and the Baltimore Ravens from back in the day. So 68 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: it's not a completely lost cause right here. But the 69 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: uncles have to be closer to perfect than they normally 70 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: have to you normally have been. 71 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's fair. You know, I think 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: multiple things can be true, right, It's the ultimate team game, Like, 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you got here because of the team, not just because 74 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: of bon Knicks. Botix is a fact, obviously a factor 75 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: in that we don't play in an era of football 76 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: when the quarterback is a passenger in anything, right, that's impossible. 77 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: So you got here in part because of bon Nicks, 78 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: but you got here because of the team. You need 79 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: the team to play like a team. They need to 80 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: play up to that level. They need to play up 81 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to championship level for you to have a chance to 82 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: do that, and they're gonna have to rally around toid theam. 83 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: So everything you said, I think it's completely fair. And 84 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, Deep Dive on Patriots and National Podcast and 85 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: everybody giving an opinion on this game. And that's one 86 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: of the cool things about being the championship game is 87 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: everybody's got an opinion and everybody's covering the game. So 88 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: you have the people that are saying, oh, no, Sudham 89 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: can be pretty good in this, and you even have 90 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Sean Payton saying today, I'm not worried about Tidham, I'm 91 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: worried about everybody else doing their job. So again, you 92 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: say bo Nicks matters, matters a lot, So. 93 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the STA build all that competence. 94 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: At the minute that that bow went down. All you've 95 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: been hearing is we believe in send them. We believe. Yes, 96 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: you have to say that, but you wouldn't know it 97 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: more than I guess I would. How's the vibe in 98 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: the locker room? Like, what's how is everybody feeling in 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: the locker room? That will give you the true testament 100 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: of how they really feel. 101 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just talking to DJ Jones, so 102 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: defensive linemen. I always think guys in the trenches are 103 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: sometimes my favorite people to talk to to get a 104 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: pulse of things. And it's not to say that wide 105 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: receivers and DB's and everything don't have that, because they 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: absolutely can't. But there's something about the guys that play 107 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: in the trenches, because it's sort of the physicalness of 108 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: their job, they tend to have a pulse of things. 109 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: And I asked him, how are they feeling about the situation? 110 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I can understand and they certainly are 111 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: bummed about Boonicks, But he said, we haven't flinched. He's like, 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: he's like this week, he's like, I've been to two 113 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: championship games. He's like, I put on par with everything 114 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: we've done this week and everything we've done up to 115 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: this point with any of them. He's like, I feel 116 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: like we're that team. 117 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's encouraging. But the one thing that it 118 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: just goes against them is the lack of live reps before. Sure, 119 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: you know, when you matter. You know, they've been talking 120 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: about a lot of in practice. You know, he's been 121 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: that guy. Yeah, you can do that when you don't 122 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: have a threat of getting hit. And just like you know, 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: we get up in these these conversations during no ta's 124 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: and stuff of how people look, it's the same thing, 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: and pretty much there's no live bullets, you know what 126 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: I mean. You can take chances there and it doesn't 127 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: hurt the team in practice. 128 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: So let me ask you something on that line. Because 129 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Jared Sidham, like we've seen other quarterbacks in the past, 130 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: looked really good in the preseason, right And I'm not 131 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: about to say here and say it's anything relatively close 132 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: to what he's inna experience at not playing for two 133 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: years and now Jim dropped into an AFC championship game. 134 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: It's not the same. But you said OTA's it's not 135 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: live bolts. We know that, but preseason is kind of 136 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: a halfway measure, would you say sometimes sometimes okay, sometimes 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get sort of a measurement of because, 138 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: like listen, he looks confident there, he looks like he's 139 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: taken some steps forward. 140 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: When was the preseason months ago? So at And that's 141 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: my biggest thing. That's the last time he's been hit. 142 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: That's the last time he's really had to work on timing. 143 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: And that's where I'm more of like, they're going to 144 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: have to rely on everyone else, And Jared Sidam's gonna 145 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: have to be a manager, you know, a game manager, 146 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: because that's everyone else has been there, everyone else you've 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: been able to rely on. You got to let them 148 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: kind of get into the game, start the field, the game, 149 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: and everything will be okay. Then you got to rely 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: on the run game. You got through right on that 151 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: old line. You But then also when it is time 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: to throw, you know, you gotta go to your reliable targets. 153 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: You gotta find a Courtland sudden and I know it's 154 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: gonna be a tough matchup with Christian Nozales, one of 155 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: the best corners in the game. 156 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: It's very good. 157 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: But then you have Marvin Mims, you have you have 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: other guys, and that's what it's going to take is 159 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: and unfortunately, it seems like Sidim is gonna have to 160 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: be perfect and perfect as in no mistakes, no no, 161 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: and it's not this is not in his control. Batted 162 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: balls that go for interceptions, anything that can hinder that 163 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: defense and give the other team a short field to 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: play with, because we both kind of know this is 165 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: going to be a defensive battle. So it's going to 166 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: be whoever's defense can make the most amount of plays 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: is going to win the game. And that actually might 168 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: work out in the Broncos favor playing a more conservative 169 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: way with Jared Sidham because it just allows the defense 170 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: to go out there and make plays and play free 171 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: and be like and they know they're going to have 172 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: to set up their. 173 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Offense this Miles Scare got five sacks in this game, 174 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: That's right. You guys got six against Drake May. Five 175 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: of them came from Miles Garre. You had two TFLs 176 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: in this one. 177 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 178 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: Again, that's not me saying I'm surprised. I'm saying, like surprised, 179 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: what what happens that their offensive lines that him holding 180 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: the ball too long, because that's what the discussion is 181 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: right now about Drake may Is, like he holds the 182 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: ball too long and he's got the nine inch hands, 183 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: which are you know, you say whatever. 184 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: You want, I could throw the ball. 185 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: And fumbling especially in cold weather. 186 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah no, and we saw that last weekend. They he 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: fumbled multiple times off of that drush from Will Anderson. 188 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: So obviously we know where the xbots on that defense 189 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 2: is going to be the change the game. It has 190 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: to be a Nick Bonito, has to be a James 191 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: and Cooper has to be a Jona Ellis. Has to 192 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: be guys that go out there, burn the edge, make 193 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: the tackle. You know, when the tables are on an island, 194 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: when you get that one on one chance, you gotta 195 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 2: take advantage of it. 196 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: You guys were into this thing all the way. Man, 197 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: it was seven. It was a nine to seven game 198 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: at halftime and then a third quarter I think it 199 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: was turnovers yep, yeah, well and there was yeah so 200 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: in that he threw three touchdowns there in the in 201 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: the third quarter and that was pretty much the game. 202 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: He had a seven yard touchdown to Hunter Henry a 203 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: one yard touchdown pass to Stefan Diggs in a thirty 204 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: nine yarder to Kishan Bouti and I put about thirty seven, 205 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: and you're right. I think Dylan Gabriel had two interceptions 206 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: in the game. 207 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also on top of that, if you run 208 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: the ball, and this is why I do I'm not 209 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: completely saying the Broncos are going to lose this game. 210 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: You better not be at all, because. 211 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: The Broncos do have Like once again I said, the 212 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: Broncos have a defense where they're able to compete even 213 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: with their offense already has been struggling all year, the 214 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: defense has been what's been winning them games. And so 215 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: no matter what, well, you have to stop the run. 216 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: And this is a team, that New England team that 217 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: takes advantage of turnovers. So as you said, it was 218 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: nine to seven and a half time, a couple of 219 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: turnovers happened. Next you know, we're out there getting their 220 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: ask kicked. 221 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, two interceptions and that's what that's what Dylan Unfortunately 222 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: through an Emmy Night listen, we don't have to relive 223 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: any that. 224 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: I know. 225 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: That was a bit of the season for you guys, right, 226 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, was like we talked about complimentary football. Well, 227 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: in the end, you guys had a very good defense 228 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: sometimes that didn't get to be showcased. 229 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: Well, once again, if we look at that game though, 230 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: and this is why, this is really what should give 231 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: Broncos country hope. Until and their offense is better than 232 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: our offenses in Cleveland, and I would say we we 233 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: have pretty comparable defenses there. That's the type of game 234 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: it was until there was mistakes, right, So if you 235 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: don't make mistakes, you know you're be in it with 236 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: a chance to win it the whole time. And I 237 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: think that's the mindset you're going there as offenses. Don't 238 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: give them anything easy, don't get don't don't give them 239 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: any giveaways. This play your game, punt them all away, 240 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: make them go eighty. 241 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: We have a bunch of conversations out at Broncos Park, 242 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: power by Common Spirit some of the media members as 243 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: we're waiting for Sean to come out and ready to 244 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: go into the locker room and sort of dissecting the 245 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: nuances of it, because this massive unknown about the quarterback 246 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: is what everybody wants to talk about, and it's hard 247 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: to avoid it at this point because everything you said 248 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: is right. He has not played, and because of that, 249 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: there's this mindset of like, well, rust is going to 250 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: be a factor. Then you go to the other side 251 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: of what if he is good in the spots where 252 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: Bonnick struggles because one of the reasons why Sean did 253 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: keep him Rona wants him here is because he can 254 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: keep the offense on schedule and he does a better 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: job of letting some of those routes develop where Bonnick 256 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: sometimes would escape out of him and he would hit 257 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: the checkdowns a little faster maybe than letting things that 258 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: would work downfield. So there's there's strengths and minuses to both. 259 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: But the one thing that we all kind of agreed 260 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: on was the fourth quarter magic that bow Knicks was 261 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: able to put together. That is a massive unknown because 262 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: there aren't many quarterbacks in the league that really can 263 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: do that. 264 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: I would just add third down magic. Also, there's a 265 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: lot of times against the Bills where the Broncos are 266 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: third and long and bow Knicks made something happen. You 267 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: can't expect that from just any quarterback. That's tough to 268 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: do on third and long. You can look at the 269 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: stats all around the league third and long. It's one 270 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: of the hardest, hardest things to actually get in the league. 271 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: So the Broncos have to do a better job of 272 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: staying ahead of the sticks to this game and not 273 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: putting sit them in those situations because for bonus bonus 274 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: might be able to move around a little bit, get 275 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: the ball and get the ball out and get the 276 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: first down, but then someone else got to end up 277 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: being a strip sack or or or something. There's a 278 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: negative play that you don't want and knows or what loses. 279 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: You the game. 280 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: Seeing multiple reports here from the Broncos media out there 281 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: that it looks like JK. Dobbins is going to be 282 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: out for this game. And I'm trying to get the 283 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: full practice report, but yeah, so JK Dobbins is out, 284 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: but and it looks like Troy Franklin, Luke Wattenberg, Alex 285 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Forsyth are questionable and then Pap Ryan is full go. 286 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: So a lot of it what we expected. I mean, 287 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: Luke Wattenberg, I believe he's gonna play. So they're gonna 288 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: have their starting center back, which is a big deal. 289 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: I don't expect Troy Franklin to go. And then it's 290 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: nice to have Pat Bryan back, so there you goes. 291 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: So without JK. Dobbins, what does that mean to you? 292 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Uh, Well, you definitely would have loved to have JK. 293 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Dobbins back because then you could get that variety in 294 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: the run game with him and R. J. Harvey. But 295 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: without JK. Dobbins, that just means, you know, business as usual. 296 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: Got gotta go at it the way you have been 297 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: going at it the last couple of months without him. 298 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: But it definitely is a blow for more of people 299 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: outside the team than on the than on the team, 300 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: because the minute that we heard that he was practiced 301 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: and everyone got excited of oh okay, well we remember 302 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: those games he had before he got hurt. We definitely 303 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: could use it now that bow Nix is hurt. But 304 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: coming back from Olz Frank, it'd be tough to come 305 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: back after one week of practice. And so the Broncos 306 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: were to win this and then you get an extra 307 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: two weeks the healed and come back, then you would 308 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: expect to see him super Bowl. But man, it's just 309 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: the loss of bow Knicks and I hate to say it, 310 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: it's just it's I hope it's not too much to 311 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: come back from. I just hope it's not too much 312 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: to come back from, because this is the opportunity. You're 313 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: you're going against the Drake May, You're not going against 314 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: the Pactor Mahomes, You're not going against somebody that's been 315 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: there before. This is the this is new, this is 316 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: a new horizon for everybody. And so the Broncos really 317 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: gotta take advantage of this, and I think their defense 318 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: will come to play and will actually what's a lot 319 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: of turmoives and hopefully win them the game. 320 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: Which seems better the Bills of the Patriots in your 321 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: opinion this year? 322 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: Patriots are more consistent, which makes them a better team. Okay, 323 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: and that's that's my thoughts on the Bills. 324 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: We see you both. 325 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: We saw it when they played the Broncos. Some games, 326 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: you see they look unstoppable. Some players that look come stop, 327 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: and the next they can't move the ball at all. 328 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: The Patriots are always gradually moving down the field, and 329 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: then they played good defense, and so I got to 330 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: give it to the Patriots. 331 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's interesting. I was sort of asking and 332 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: talking about that about which one I thought was maybe 333 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: a better team. I thought the Bills offered more high 334 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: end play, like at their best they're the better team. 335 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: But you're right when you're talking about a consistent approach, 336 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: and it's hard not to tip your cap to the Patriots. 337 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I Mean, the fact is, I don't. There's not a 338 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: ton of flaws with them, right other than the some 339 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: of the turnovers and the sack numbers. I think that 340 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Drake May does get sacked a lot. Dave, what would 341 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: you say. 342 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, other than that, I think they're perfect. 343 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfect team. Right now, which team would you 344 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: say is better Bills A. 345 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: Patriots, mean Bills and Patriots? 346 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: I would say the Patriots this year because I think 347 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 5: the Patriots are a step up, maybe like a huge 348 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: step up on defense from Buffalo. Okay, now, I think 349 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 5: Buffalo's offense is, you know, is right there with New England, 350 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: maybe even a little bit better. They're more of an 351 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: outside zone team and New England's more of a double 352 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: team at the point of attack. Knock your ass off 353 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 5: the ball team. We just got word that JK. Dobbins 354 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: is officially out for this game. 355 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: So that was and then Lucas crowl Drew Sanders, no 356 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: surprise there, Bonux obviously, everybody else, Luke Flattenberg, Alex Forsyth, 357 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Troy Franklin, and Jail Skinner actually got a limited practice 358 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: in today. He's questionable as well. So that's that's the group. 359 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Pat Bryant no injury designation, so he's good to go. 360 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: The biggest, the biggest, you know, news out of all 361 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 2: that it's at the centers back. I think that will 362 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: help them more than any other player other than Voknix. 363 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 2: That's her right now because now they're going to have 364 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: to rely on that run game. And so what's better 365 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: than having a full strength offensive line, which according to 366 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: everyone out there is the number one O line. And 367 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: I've played them before and I believe they They really 368 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: don't have a weak spot on their old line right now. 369 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: So do you have to feel confident when you're into 370 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: trenches and you feel like you have the advantage at 371 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: both O line and D line. 372 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: Yes, for the offensive line. Let me ask you this 373 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: day before we hit the break. We got passer Tan 374 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: joining us coming up here in about ten minutes. The 375 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Patriots defense, and I think they are playing at a 376 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: very high level. The matchups they've had the last couple 377 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: of weeks we've talked about the Chargers offensive lines really 378 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: banged up, and the Texans offensive line is not considered 379 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: one of the elite offensive lines. How much of what 380 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: they've been doing over the last couple of weeks in 381 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs is subject to the matchups. The fact that 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: they've had offensive line lines that the probably aren't as 383 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: good as the Broncos one. 384 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think. 385 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 5: A reasonable person would say that that Denver is better 386 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: upfront than than Houston or the Chargers. So yeah, I 387 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: think it'll be it'll be a different challenge for them. 388 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 5: I think the Patriots defense is pretty good. I mean, 389 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: I I think that's probably the overlooked part of this 390 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: team because Drake may is, you know, in the MVP conversation, 391 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 5: even though he's not going to win it. And you've 392 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: got two good running backs, you've got two good tight ends, 393 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 5: and I mean you've got you've got some guys certainly 394 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: on offense, and they're they're a top five scoring team. 395 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: I mean, they've got a lot of weapons. 396 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 5: But I think not many people have talked about the 397 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 5: Patriots defense, and that that to me, Uh, I mean, 398 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: that's going to be a problem on Sunday. The Broncos 399 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 5: have to have to be able to generate drive stay 400 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: on the field, and they've got to be able to 401 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 5: generate points, right, So, I mean, I think it's a 402 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: great match. I mean, when you get to the you 403 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: get this point of the season, you're playing in the 404 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 5: champion conference championship game. I mean, you're gonna play a 405 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: good team. A good team has good players, and good 406 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 5: teams normally are well coached, and so it's it's all 407 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 5: that for both teams. It'stable to come down to, I 408 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: think who makes the most critical mistakes in the game. 409 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 5: I'm not even sure we'll see a bevy of big plays, 410 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 5: you know, I don't I don't know if we'll see 411 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: a seventy five yard touchdown catch or run. But we'll 412 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: see a team have three turnovers and that team's gonna lose. 413 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: I mean, that's at this point. 414 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: That's that's how I look at it, all Right, Well, 415 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: I just want to say it's pretty rare to see 416 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: a team hit free agency as aggressively as a New 417 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: England Patriots did and to have the amount of success 418 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: that came from that. Also because their defense, like we 419 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: had to talked about, is upfield with a lot of 420 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: Feasian editions with Robert Splaine Milton Williams like they went 421 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: and spent money this year. 422 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: What Bill Williams got big money, big. 423 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Money, and he's worth every penny of it. 424 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: So far, he's been phenomenal, no doubt about it. All right, 425 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: Rob Early here in football Friday, very excited to be 426 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: here with you this hour. Chance when one thousand dollars 427 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: coming up the next five minutes thanks to Mercedes Beens 428 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: of Littleton Mercedes of Littleton dot com. Passer Tan joins 429 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: us next. We got to push patser Tan about ten minutes, 430 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: so he'll be joining us just a few minutes. Of course, 431 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: most of the day we'll be breaking down some of 432 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: the matchups. You know. The one that I keep seeing, 433 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: Dave that has me intrigued is there with the Patriots 434 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: left tackle Will Anderson Yah Campbell camb Yeah, that's right, 435 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Will Campbell. 436 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: Will comes on TV. 437 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 5: I just watched right Will Campbell, rookie left tackle and 438 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: rookie left guard exactly and a second year right guard 439 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: Darrel Loski put this out earlier, says Will Campbell has 440 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 5: lost eight pass block reps in two playoff games, resulting 441 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: in thirteen pressures, four incompletions in three sacks. Yeah, Well, 442 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 5: it's like you and I have been talking about for 443 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 5: since it became known that the Patriots and the Broncos 444 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 5: are going to play in the AFC Championship Game. How 445 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: do the Patriots come in with Mike Vrabel a defensive guy, 446 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 5: what's the game plan with Josh McDaniel's the coordinator for 447 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 5: the Patriots offense. I'm guessing by Mike Vrabel has said, 448 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 5: We're not letting fifteen or zero or fifty two or 449 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 5: ninety two wreck our game plan. I don't want to 450 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: see what happened to Josh Allen when he got stripsacked 451 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 5: from behind fumble and the Broncos getting on the seventeen. 452 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: I don't want to see that. So how do you 453 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 5: ensure that that doesn't happen? Two ways? You run the ball, 454 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: which I think the Patriots will early and often you 455 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: get the ball out of Drake May's hands. Like so 456 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: the quick game is going to be really import I 457 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 5: think for the Patriots offense early in this game. And 458 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 5: if the worst, to me Vrabel's kind of guy, the 459 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 5: worst thing we do is punt. 460 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 3: We'll punt it down. 461 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 5: To the fifteen and let Jared Stidham in the Broncos 462 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: offense try to go eighty five yards against our defense. 463 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 5: So yes, I think it's interesting to watch, but I 464 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: don't think it'll I don't think it'll be a huge 465 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: factor for the Broncos. 466 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: No, you don't. 467 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. That Dave 468 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: said things that you said, that's oh. 469 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: Is that what you said? 470 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: I pretty much said. You know, if you have no turnovers, 471 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: if you have to punt the ball, you punt the ball. 472 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: Make them go eighty every drive. That's the thing. You 473 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: don't ever want it to be a situation where es actually 474 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: with a backup quarterback. You don't every wanted to be 475 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: a situation where you get a strip sack down the 476 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: Broncos that to twenty Now, now Stidham is feeling some 477 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: juice behind them, you know what I mean. Now it's like, oh, 478 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: I can score for twenty yards. Now we got to 479 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: go twenty yards. So that's you know, that's the mindset 480 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: behind it. So you wanted to make them have to 481 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: stack drives instead of just getting the easy bailout of 482 00:22:59,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: a turnover. 483 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that makes sense. I mean it reminds 484 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: me a little bit of how we talked about the 485 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: matchups with the Chargers and Chiefs at the end of 486 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: the season. For the Broncos's like, hey, listen, understand now, 487 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: I think Jerseon is better than those backups. But that's 488 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: a different conversation. But the approach would be, if it's 489 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in there, you don't want to put 490 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: yourself in a disadvantage by trying to do something that 491 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: you shouldn't and make a mistake. 492 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: I think there's truth to that. 493 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: I think with Trey Lance it became so apparent that 494 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: they weren't going to be able to generate any kind 495 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 5: of offense. Right then you get really conservative with your 496 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: offense because you know the other offense can't score. I 497 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 5: don't think that'll be the case to the Broncos with 498 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 5: with Stitty, But I think again, just knowing the personality 499 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: a little bit of the head the head coach usually 500 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 5: sort of the team takes on his personality and they 501 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 5: think sort of like he thinks, especially when they're having 502 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 5: a great season. And so Vrabel has endeared himself to 503 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 5: this locker room. He's a hug every guy sort of 504 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: coach and all that stuff. But they he's gonna want 505 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 5: to take pressure off his young quarterback. 506 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: He doesn't want these young offensive linemen. 507 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: Nor second year quarterback to face this kind of pressure 508 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 5: where we get in a passing game. Therefore, I've said, 509 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 5: I think it's really important for the Broncos to get 510 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: ahead and make these dudes come from behind where you 511 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: might have to throw it a little bit more than 512 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: you want to. 513 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: The Patriots are going to want to set it up 514 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: for their team where they can run the ball. They're 515 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: gonna run play action off of that, and they're gonna 516 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: have quick passes. And don't be surprised if you see 517 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: some Reid option out there too, because everyone knows they're 518 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: going to be trying to rely on the run. The 519 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: biggest thing that we saw when we played the Patriots 520 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: this year, Draken May plays at a four to three 521 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: play speed, and I'm not exact, he plays at a 522 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: four to three, So they're going to do things to 523 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: get him loose. Also, they don't do design runs that 524 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: say like how Buffalo does, but you might see a 525 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: read option. And then the issue is for the Broncos 526 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: if he does get loose a couple of times, don't 527 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: tighten it up. You gouts still go out there and 528 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: rush because they still have playmakers that can make that. 529 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: If you start taking people out of coverage and putting 530 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: spies on, they have to playmakers to punish you about that. 531 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: Bring on Broncos. Cornerback passer Tantazy joins us here on 532 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Fridays throughout the course of the season. Pat your own, 533 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards as Shelby Harris, how are you man? 534 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: I'm all good. 535 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: How are we doing? Do good? 536 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 5: Appreciate your time, Pat? You know everybody, Uh, well, there's 537 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: different things that you look at in this game. I 538 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 5: want to ask from your perspective. We've talked a little 539 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: bit about the Patriots running game. I imagine you're going to 540 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 5: get a heavy dose of that. But when you see 541 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: Drake May in his second year and some of these receivers, 542 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: I mean, what kind of passing game do you see 543 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 5: and what what kind of game do you expect from 544 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: the Patriots? 545 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think they you know, they give. 546 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 4: Their QB chances to make plays. You know, I feel 547 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: like it's a simple pass attack, but they like to 548 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: attack different areas of coverage, drop the field, they like 549 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 4: to take their deep shots. 550 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: Uh. 551 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: They love that intermediate game, you know. 552 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 6: And one thing about him. 553 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: Is he's also a third on his feet and we 554 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: got to eliminate that. But at the same time, man, 555 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: we know we're going up against uh they love to 556 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 4: hone in on a run, stick to the run at first, 557 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: and you know the past game un feeds off of that. 558 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a challenge for us. But we 559 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 4: got to uh, you know, be ready for it for sure. 560 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: All right, Pat, I mean, of course, the news and 561 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: I know you were asked about it in your press conference, 562 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: the news about bo Nicks was was certainly disheartening. But 563 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I'd love to know from your perspective as a captain 564 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: and the leader on that team, how do you feel 565 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: like the locker room has responded this week with the 566 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: change there with your quarterback. 567 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, the locker room was funded. Well, you know, obviously 568 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: it was a sudden change, a big change. You know, 569 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: we lost a big component, you know, of our team's success. 570 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: And you know, obviously that's hard, you know, for anybody, 571 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 4: but uh, you know, we we never let that way 572 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: for us. We understand that, uh, you know, we got 573 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: all of our goals is in front of us, is 574 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 4: in the horizon, and you know we realized that, uh 575 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 4: you know, once that happened. Uh, his next man up 576 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: in Steady is the best guy to fill that role. 577 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: We got the utmost belief. 578 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 6: In him that he's gonna get a job done. 579 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: And uh, you know we see a week in a 580 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: week out on a consistent basis with him. But the 581 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: locker room has been vibrant, the energy has been high, 582 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: and we're ready to play on Sunday. 583 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: Shelby, Uh we nicks out, not much, man, but we'll 584 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: both nicks out. What is the mindset of this defense 585 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: going into this game and does it feel like you 586 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: might have to do a little bit more in order 587 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: to come out successful? 588 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 589 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 6: Uh, you know, even with. 590 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 4: When Bo was in there, we always felt like we 591 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: got to do a little bit more. 592 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 6: Each and every week because the road gets tougher, especially. 593 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: In the playoffs. Teams you're gonna play. 594 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 6: Tougher teams the more and more you win in this tournament, and. 595 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: Uh, it's very prevalent. So this week we got to 596 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 4: uphold our standard and uh straight to that, you know that, 597 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: and you know, not changing anything up. You know, we 598 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: ain't trying to be superheroes or nothing. Like that, but 599 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: just staying consistent with the basics and the fundamentals. 600 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 601 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: And I feel like that's all what we need to do, 602 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: uh to come out with a W. 603 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: So that last couple of questions herefore, you always appreciate, man. 604 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: So going back to the last game against the Buffalo Bills, 605 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: that in that game, I mean, it was back and forth, 606 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and I guess in a lot of ways that's what 607 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: playoff football tends to look like. But what was sort 608 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: of the emotional roller coaster where you guys on one 609 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: at all over the course of that game. 610 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's what playoff football is 611 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 6: all about. 612 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Man. 613 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: It's it's always gonna be nailed by the games, you know, 614 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: I mean just in these moments because it's doing to die. 615 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: You know, every every team is fighting for the chances 616 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: to you know, keep their playoff hosts alive and reach 617 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: the ultimate destination, which was a super Bowl. So each 618 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: and every game got to be one from within. 619 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: You know. 620 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I think we've had some key turnovers on 621 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: defense and offense, came through on some crush crush drives 622 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: that you know, helped us propel all way to victory. 623 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: And uh, that's got to be the same type of 624 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: mindset and effort of every need going on into this week. Uh, 625 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: you know it's gonna take all eleven guys on that field, 626 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: on offense, defense, and special teams to get the job done. 627 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: So man, how about J max interception? 628 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: Though? Come on now, Yeah, that's I've seen in the while. Man, 629 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: that's I've seen wild. 630 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know, like as far as plays again, 631 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: you've had some spectacular plays here for the Broncos. Of course, 632 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: defensively you probably have seen quite a few in your time. 633 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: That one there, Like, the more I watch it, the 634 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: more bewildered I am by the fact that it worked 635 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: out the way it did, and the fact that they're 636 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: still debating it right now, like national talk shows. Whether 637 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: it was a catch or an interception is hilarious to me. 638 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: But it seems very clear to be an interception. I 639 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: imagine you feel the same way. 640 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it was two guys competing. 641 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: It's just so happened to be that jmck won to fight, 642 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: win to battle, And you know, he came in cutch 643 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: and that's what he's been doing all year, all season, 644 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 4: come in and cutch making big time plays for us, 645 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: you know, in the season, and that play was very 646 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: pivotal because when you look at that play, you know 647 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: they're going field goal range, have opportunity to kick the 648 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: field go and win the game. But you know, Mac 649 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 4: making that big time play change aut the momentum. And 650 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, we all we all think 651 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 4: Mac uh for for that game because really, uh that 652 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: game was won by him for making that play. And 653 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 4: it was very critical and you got to have some 654 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: anticipation and you know, some type of uh ben don't 655 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: break to be able to finish the play like that. 656 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: And that's what we brought to the table. 657 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: You don't want more here self? 658 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: Yes I do so. Pat So the Patris do a 659 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: really good job of putting the dbs in the run game, 660 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: making the DBS tackle, you know, making you guys set 661 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: to the edge. What mentality do all the dbs really 662 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: need to come into this game with in order to 663 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: really shut down that run game. 664 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. They love to bounce to the edges, 665 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: run to the perimeter and you know, make corners tackle. 666 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: But the great thing about us. 667 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: Is, man, we love tackling. 668 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: We love your physical as well too, you know, what 669 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: I mean, because our defense is built for us to tackle, 670 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: you know, whenever it goes to the edge, corners is 671 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: taught to feel correct, replace and stuff like that and 672 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 4: set the edge. And you know we take part in that, 673 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: me and Riley uh on tackling and being physical in 674 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: the ball game because you know, in the corner of 675 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: today's league, you can't just cover, you know, you gotta tackle. 676 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: And uh, I think on both sides, uh, you know, 677 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: on me and Riley side, we we definitely shine in 678 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: those moments when we got to tackle and make plays. 679 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 6: So yeah, we we peeped that on film. 680 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: And we just gotta come up and present, uh, present 681 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: the doing. So that's what we're gonna do. 682 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: Pat Man, it has been a hell of a ride. 683 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for the entire season, and 684 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: obviously we've enjoyed these conversations with you every Friday. Let's 685 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: keep it going. Best of luck on Sunday, my friend. 686 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. 687 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 6: Yep, thank you, appreciate you, Havin. 688 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: Thanks Patting all. 689 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: Right, Passer ten, that's a great point you bring up. 690 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: By the way, the DB's tackling in the run game, 691 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big deal. 692 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 4: A lot of. 693 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: Teams really try to force DB's to start hip because a 694 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: lot of corners in the league just want to go cover. 695 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: And so the whole idea is, we're going to break 696 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: your wheel before we even start to throw the ball. 697 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: And that right there means they won the game already. 698 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: I see. 699 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: This is the thing, like I was asking you earlier, Dave, 700 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: about like the relative Bills versus Patriots, on who sort 701 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: of is a scarier team or who's the better team, 702 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Because I feel like the top end of the Bills, 703 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: like the scariest parts of the Bills, especially offensively, are 704 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: much more worrisome for me than what the Patriots do. 705 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: And that's not dismissive. It's just what I thought Josh 706 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: Allen and James Cook represented was a lot scarier for 707 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: me than what the Patriots do. 708 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: It's it's different, for sure. I think. 709 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 5: I think Josh is one of the handful of great 710 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: quarterbacks we have in the league. Drake May's had that 711 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 5: kind of season, but he's only in his second year. 712 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: Running game is different. 713 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 5: Uh, it's more power than outside zone like the Bills. 714 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 5: But the Patriots, I mean, the Patriots have averaged I 715 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 5: mean their top five scoring team. So uh, this is 716 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 5: gonna be a great matchup. I'm tired of talking about it. 717 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 5: You can't wait for Sunday? 718 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: All right, we'll write back mka Wait