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Speaker 1: And uh, Chrismithaman rolling in early. Chrismithaman, how you doing today? Man,

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Speaker 1: turn that mic on over there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 1: I don't get to see you in person. All that off.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's exciting. The hug was great, but I

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Speaker 1: Hug, I know.

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Speaker 1: How was the weather coming in?

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Speaker 3: I was listening to you, buddy. It's every bit of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean after I mean yesterday it was windy,

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Speaker 3: An American submarine sunk in Iranian warship.

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Speaker 1: this Monday morning, Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas, and

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Speaker 3: Instead of like making that a punchline, you know, why

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Speaker 3: And it just bothers me when I listen to this language.

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Speaker 1: Well, for far too many in the media and far

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Speaker 6: One really disturbing, and the messaging around the war recently,

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Speaker 1: This and again you cannot find me. I defy you

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, before we went in, that's a new

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Speaker 3: Foot traffic foot foot traffic is dropping because of safety

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Speaker 1: What was the quote they were begging for that, they.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not just it's not just the crime

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Speaker 3: And you know, here, I want to say this so

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Speaker 3: that article is correct. People are choosing with their feet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've had a rich history, good or bad

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Speaker 1: For John the opening act.

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Speaker 3: I think this is I think that's right because the mayor,

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Speaker 3: the mayor is the mayor is turned out. You're going

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Speaker 3: to see a lot of the people in the administration

439
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Speaker 3: that he's hired now looking for jobs, trying to find

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Speaker 3: places to land. I think that this was her evaluation

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Speaker 3: that she's gonna use use to go and apply for

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Speaker 3: a city manager job somewhere else in the United States

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Speaker 3: of America. It's not about us, it was about her.

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Speaker 1: And so no one in council raised any objection to

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Speaker 1: this to help pave the way for her to have

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Speaker 1: a smooth exit.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that nice?

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And then what we'll do is, isn't that nice?

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Speaker 3: We'll have some intim city manager for two years while

452
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Speaker 3: the mayor finishes up his term and then rides off

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Speaker 3: into the sun.

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Speaker 1: So does that serve the people of Cincinnati?

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Speaker 3: It does it?

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Speaker 1: So all that's going to do. So you're telling me

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Speaker 1: right now, your sense is is that all these things

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Speaker 1: that we have sitting on the table when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the police chief, when it comes to cameras in

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Speaker 1: the West End neighborhood where the eleven year old girl

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Speaker 1: was shot and killed and we still don't know who

462
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Speaker 1: killed her, when it comes to the eight hundred and

463
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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars debt in the pension fund, when it

464
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Speaker 1: comes to crime, when it comes to the money. I

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Speaker 1: saw a very cute video on the city website of

466
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Speaker 1: how they fill potholes in Cincinnati. Very clever, very cute,

467
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Speaker 1: and a lot of quick gut. It's all that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So we're busy producing little video, little vignettes

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Speaker 1: like that. But when it comes to actual drive around there,

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Speaker 1: you drive around the city, I do, I do. Our

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Speaker 1: road should be in awesome shape right now. We should

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Speaker 1: have millions upon millions of dollars to spend on roads

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Speaker 1: and infrastructure. But yet the the bureaucracy of city Hall

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Speaker 1: and who's ever in that decision making process. It's not

475
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Speaker 1: that money is not getting out. I mean I have,

476
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Speaker 1: I have that money. Is just is it sitting there?

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Speaker 1: What's happening with that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll come to I have about six meetings all

479
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Speaker 3: over in different parts of our of our of our

480
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Speaker 3: of our city, in our region today, and as I

481
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: drive around, what is so interesting is if I go

482
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Speaker 3: out into the county, you can you can just feel

483
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Speaker 3: it when you cross the line. Fact the roads just

484
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Speaker 3: get better, you know, It says leaving the city of Cincinnati,

485
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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, my truck just kind

486
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Speaker 3: of goes smooth as soon as I come in. It says,

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Speaker 3: it's nice. I go entering the city of s Ininati,

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Speaker 3: it is boo boo.

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Speaker 1: Boo boo boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

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Speaker 1: boom boom.

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Speaker 3: I even saw a cone sitting in a in a

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Speaker 3: pothole over the weekend, like that is a cone that

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Speaker 3: I'm now dodging, meaning the reality of it is effect.

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Speaker 3: None of this made it into the evaluation, is your

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00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: point meaning our reality, Dan Carroll, about the job that's

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Speaker 3: happening in the city, whether it's infrastructure, whether it's the

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Speaker 3: Western Hills Viaduct, whether it's our police officers, firefighters safety,

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Speaker 3: whether we're talking about the CSR system, which I hope

499
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Speaker 3: we will spend some time on this morning talking about.

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Speaker 3: None of that was was discussed with the city manager.

501
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Speaker 3: That's what tells me this was about an evaluation to

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Speaker 3: pivot her to her next job. She's leaving, she's starting

503
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Speaker 3: to apply for other jobs, and she wanted to leave

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Speaker 3: with a great evaluation, no matter what the reality was,

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Speaker 3: no matter what the reality is, because they'll never call

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Speaker 3: us and say, what kind of job do you think

507
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Speaker 3: the city manager did? They're gonna call her nine bosses

508
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: and the mayor and say what kind of job she's

509
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Speaker 3: here's the evaluation. She did a great job. They're not

510
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Speaker 3: going to necessarily dig into the articles where they say

511
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Speaker 3: crime is up, you know, sixty two percent. They're not

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Speaker 3: going to say that. They're going to say, this was

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Speaker 3: a great evaluation. She's in the pool.

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Speaker 1: Let's hire her well though, the just send a link

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Speaker 1: to the story in the Inquirer. Council gives a city

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Speaker 1: manager share along a glowing job review. There's the headline, right,

517
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Speaker 1: that's the headline. That's how valuable was that? That is fantastic?

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Speaker 1: Seven thirty five. We got to get to a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue on Chris Smitheman on fifty five kr CV

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Speaker 1: Talk Station Experience, Comfort and Reliability was Zimmer HVAC for

521
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Speaker 1: over six seven on this Monday, My special Monday Morning

522
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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, and we are spending

523
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Speaker 1: time in studio with Chris Smithaman this morning talking about

524
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Speaker 1: just about everything under the sun. And yeah, and you

525
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Speaker 1: heard it here first, Chris Smith is of the opinion

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Speaker 1: that chair along is uh cutting down the weeds. She

527
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: got a machete out there, hacking down the weeds and

528
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: looking for an exit, and her exits executing her exit

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Speaker 1: strategy from the city manager's office. So we will see.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna we'll see if that comes. I think you're

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Speaker 1: you know, you are very perceptive on these issues. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so I'm thinking you're probably right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been I've been down there. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: not it's not you know, you're when you've been down

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00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: there enough in the bows, you see that this professional

536
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: is starting to look for her new gig. And you know,

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Speaker 3: as we talk about issues, you're talking about infrastructure issues.

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Speaker 3: You know, you we touched off the air you mentioned

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati retirement set.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is, and I was gonna I

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Speaker 1: was going to talk Yeah, that is the next thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. This is something we talked

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Speaker 1: about Michael Washington, Teresa Thigi, Uh, the West end cameras,

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00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: the a spike in violence, people don't want to go downtown.

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Speaker 1: This predates all of that. This and this is how

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Speaker 1: long that we've had not just a city manager, but

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Speaker 1: a city council that is not interested in dealing with

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Speaker 1: serious issues in a meaningful way. And that, to me,

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Speaker 1: Chris Smitheman, is one of the most long term frustrations

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Speaker 1: when it comes to what's going on at city Hall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, let me give John Cranley, mayor former mayor

553
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Speaker 3: John Cranley and that administration a big shout out here

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Speaker 3: because one of the big steps they took, Dan Carroll,

555
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Speaker 3: was to make it mandatory that sixteen point two five

556
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Speaker 3: percent of our payroll had to be paid into the

557
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati retirement system. And that was a very big step

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Speaker 3: in the right direction. Now, what I want to be

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00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: clear is prior to that, mayors would balance the budget

560
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Speaker 3: by underfunding the pension. I'm just trying to make it simple,

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Speaker 3: so you know, if the stock market is up like

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Speaker 3: it is now, the city council would say, we're not

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Speaker 3: going to make that contribution, or we're going to make

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Speaker 3: a lot less of a contribution. And these are are

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Speaker 3: as workers, these are our code workers. They are mostly

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Speaker 3: Democrats who live in the city and in the region.

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Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with police and it has

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with fire because they have their own

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Speaker 3: retirement systems. We are the only city in the state

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Speaker 3: of Ohio that has a retirement system local like this.

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Speaker 1: So these are the people who drove around on trucks

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Speaker 1: filling the potholes. That's These are the people who metropolitan

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Speaker 1: sewer districts.

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Speaker 3: Yes that they're in here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeahbody who retired as d MSD in here. All

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Speaker 1: those city services, city.

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Speaker 3: Water, absolutely sanitation workers, which is absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Thousands upon thousands of people who did honest day's work

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Speaker 1: for honest day's pay, working diligently for twenty thirty forty

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Speaker 1: years for the citizens.

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Speaker 3: And the way you described that is so critical because

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Speaker 3: when your friend retired, he made or she made a

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Speaker 3: decision that was revocable. I am signing off, I'm leaving.

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Speaker 3: I've given you my thirty or my thirty five years.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to receive a payment for the rest

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Speaker 3: of my life, which includes a promise around healthcare. What

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00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: is happening is because there's been so much mismanagement with

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Speaker 3: this money that now they continue to go back to

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Speaker 3: those employees where they made those promises and they're reducing

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Speaker 3: benefits for those retirees.

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Speaker 1: And who speaks for them? Are they all on their own?

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Speaker 1: I mean they do. They have a representation that speaks

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Speaker 1: for them.

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Speaker 3: It's outside of code, which is a great great union

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Speaker 3: there outside of asks me who they're obviously fighting for

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Speaker 3: this every single day.

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Speaker 1: The answer is no, bet are they? Are they speaking

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Speaker 1: for the current employees or both the past employees and curtenty.

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Speaker 3: That's correct, that's correct. And so think about the widow

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Speaker 3: or widower out there, meaning that person is now passed,

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Speaker 3: you're receiving half of the benefit that the employee was receiving,

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00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: and city council says, we're going to reduce your benefit

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Speaker 3: even more. Here the bottom line to everybody listening, the

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00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Retirement System is an obligation that is required. When

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00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: the CRS system goes, so does the City of Cincinnati.

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00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: It is not an exaggeration. The unfunded liability is probably

607
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty million, meaning we need about three

608
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: point one or three point two billion dollars in assets.

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Speaker 3: We probably have about two point one billion. We're sending

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Speaker 3: out ten million. The last time, I was down there

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00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: per month in benefits or one hundred and twenty million

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Speaker 3: dollars per year. The reality of it is is this

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Speaker 3: is what is holding up the CRS system right now

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Speaker 3: is the stock market. Meaning we're getting a great performance.

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Speaker 3: When the stock market goes through a natural cyclical retract removal,

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Speaker 3: I mean a pullback where we drop ten fifteen thirty percent,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna hear a lot of screaming about

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Retirement system. Is what is keeping it together

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Speaker 3: is the the It's like their four oh one k

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Speaker 3: is the performance of the overall Dow SMP Russell. All

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Speaker 3: of that is keeping things together. Look here, here's the reality.

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Retirement System and the mayor are trying to pivot

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Speaker 3: this to the state. They want the state to take

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00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: over the CRS system. The state is saying, why would

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Speaker 3: I assume an eight hundred and fifty million dollar unfunded

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Speaker 3: liability number one? And if I would, you know that

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Speaker 3: we're gonna We're gonna cut the benefits of those who

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Speaker 3: are retired immediately. So understand, those of you who are

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Speaker 3: voting for these councils and these mayors, you've got to

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00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: start voting your pocabook. You've got to put a mayor

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Speaker 3: in a council together that prioritize the CRS system. The

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00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: taxpayers have to understand that if the CRS system goes under,

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00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: they are going to dramatically raise taxes in order for

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Speaker 3: us to bail out the Cincinnati Retirement System. Every CEO

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Speaker 3: in the City of Cincinnati, every CFO in the City

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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati, knows that what I'm saying is absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: Do you think our current members of council have a

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Speaker 1: good understanding of this, working knowledge of this right They

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Speaker 1: do not. There does none of this ever makes it

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Speaker 1: into the campaign.

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Speaker 3: No, it never makes it into the news. It never

642
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: makes it into the evaluation of the city manager.

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Speaker 1: It's not sexy, it's not sexy, but it's serious.

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Speaker 3: It is the most serious thing that the city is

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Speaker 3: facing because we are the only city in the city

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Speaker 3: of since in the in the in the state that

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00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: has our own self directed retirement plan. And you don't

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Speaker 3: hear police and fire talking about it. Ken Kober is

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00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: looking at this and saying, for the most part, this

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00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: is none of my business because sure, because my retirement

651
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: is separate, separate issue here and let me.

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Speaker 4: Tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you what the FOP did, and the

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Speaker 3: and the and the fire department did. They sued the

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Speaker 3: heck out of the city, and the city had to

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Speaker 3: put about forty four million dollars into their pension present value.

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Speaker 3: They sued successfully. They say, you can't keep underfunding our pension.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, asks me and Code and all of those

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Speaker 3: other unions are gonna have to do the same. We

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Speaker 3: can't just continue to carry an eight hundred million dollar

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Speaker 3: unfunded liability and not think it's not gonna impact. And

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Speaker 3: the second thing you're gonna see is our rating agencies

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Speaker 3: are gonna wake up one day and they're gonna say,

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Speaker 3: we're taking us. We're gonna start bringing down our our

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Speaker 3: our ratings for the bond ratings, the bond ratings. That's right,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna start bringing that thing down because they're gonna say, guys,

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Speaker 3: you've got to deal with the CRS system.

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Speaker 1: All right, quick break, will be right back with Chris

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Speaker 1: Smithman on fifty five KRCV talk station.

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Speaker 2: Got a hot take read the room, don't let it die.

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Speaker 1: All right, We are back with Chris Smitheman. Just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes in this segment, and then we'll continue on one.

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Speaker 1: A whole nother hour of Chris smithment ahead, and if

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Speaker 1: you have ever wanted to speak with Chris Smitheman, ask

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Speaker 1: him a question. The next hour we'll have the phone

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Speaker 1: lines open five one, three, five hundred if you want

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Speaker 1: to get on board with Chris Smitheman, because I'm asking

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Speaker 1: all the questions here. But but it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you here. What is it going to take to And

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Speaker 1: we were talking off the air about you, all these

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Speaker 1: employees all the and look, you've got to give credit

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Speaker 1: to the Democrat Party here in Cincinnati because they are dedicated.

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Speaker 1: They get people who are dedicated to their agenda. And

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Speaker 1: you get so many people who go down and go

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Speaker 1: and they go to vote, and they vote straight the

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Speaker 1: straight Democrat ticket. That's all they look for is a

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Speaker 1: D next to that person's name. And you tried this

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Speaker 1: last election cycle to get through to those people. How

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Speaker 1: do you do it? I mean, it's it's it's got

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Speaker 1: to be. You got to be standing there thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: I am looking at a huge mountain in front of me.

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Speaker 3: I think you're going to see Cincinnati. Unfortunately, we're taking

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Speaker 3: steps towards Detroit and it starts with the crime piece,

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Speaker 3: and people are going to get fed up with their

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Speaker 3: cars being broken into petty crimes, which we don't even

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Speaker 3: talk about. Usually we're talking about the violent stuff, the

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Speaker 3: guns and stuff, but there's a lot of petty crime

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Speaker 3: that's happening down here that's not being addressed.

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Speaker 1: Well, We've got the folks in the West End who

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Speaker 1: have been trying to have their voices heard, but it

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Speaker 1: seems that they're getting their backs turned to them at

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Speaker 1: city Hall.

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Speaker 3: They are on that, but in this last election, eighty

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Speaker 3: five percent of them voted for those who are elected.

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Speaker 3: Elections have consequences. That's the tough part. And your question

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Speaker 3: to me is when are they going to wake up?

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Speaker 3: When are they going to say I want something different?

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Speaker 3: And I think that it's going to be a crime issue,

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Speaker 3: and I also think it's going to be a financial issue,

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Speaker 3: meaning we cannot continue to spend the money we are

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Speaker 3: spending and keep our cities taxes low are reasonable, which

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Speaker 3: people are getting priced out of their homes right now

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Speaker 3: with taxes and all that, But we just can't continue

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Speaker 3: down this track. And eventually, I think the citizens of

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati are going to say I can't take it. I

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Speaker 3: can't afford to vote for these people. It's going to

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Speaker 3: take probably another election cycle or two. I think the

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Speaker 3: person who will come back and be the man who

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Speaker 3: will save us is going to be a blue dog Democrat.

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Speaker 3: It will be that person that's a throwback. That's right,

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Speaker 3: that's right, It's.

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Speaker 1: Back to the Tom Luken and Charlie Lucan days.

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Speaker 3: Those are the people that is it is going to

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Speaker 3: be a candidate like that that is ultimately going to

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Speaker 3: turn our city around. Somebody that says, I support our cops,

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Speaker 3: I support our our retirement system. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 3: invest in our infrastructure, fix our potholes, make sure our

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Speaker 3: sanitation workers. Keep a clean city. Cincinnati is very dirty.

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Speaker 3: Clean the clean the city up. You're gonna know when

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Speaker 3: that turn happens because the mayor will be a blue

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Speaker 3: dog Democrat.

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Speaker 1: All right. We got to get to a break news

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Speaker 1: coming up top of the hour, and then one more

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Speaker 1: hour as we roll on till nine this morning with

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Speaker 1: Chris Smithment in studio. So pick up the phone five

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Speaker 1: P one three hundred, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas on

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the talk station.

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Speaker 2: What's happening over there every day. What's the purpose completely

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Speaker 2: destroy their military.

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Speaker 7: Causing pain at the pump shut down of the Department

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Speaker 7: of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 2: Fleet for hit them so hard? Where things happen?

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Speaker 1: Fifty five krs the talk station fifty five krs. The

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Speaker 1: talk says Chris Smithvan getting into the little van Halen

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Speaker 1: thanks to Joe Streckerd this morning Dan Carrolyn for Brian

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Speaker 1: Thomas and a special morning in fifty five KRC because

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Speaker 1: we are graced by the presence of Chris Smith Aman

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Speaker 1: in studio. And this is I mean, this is I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit surprised when Joe told me you

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Speaker 1: were to be able to do two hours today because

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Speaker 1: this is a busy time of year for you, is

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Speaker 1: it not? As a financial planner? I mean this is

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Speaker 1: people are looking about, you know, what to do with

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Speaker 1: their money and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: So as you are in demand right now, in demand

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Speaker 3: as we go into the tax season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 7: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is a crazy time r n ds that are

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Speaker 3: people are requesting to I need all my tax information.

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Speaker 3: So this is a very busy time. But glad to

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Speaker 3: be here with you, you know, in person, and you

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Speaker 3: know one of the things we talked about, and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna let you let you drive the conversation off air,

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Speaker 3: is we have a big gubernatorial race coming up. I

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Speaker 3: mean state of Ohio. Vivek Ramaswami is up running for

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Speaker 3: governor on the Republican side, and you know, I'd love

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Speaker 3: to hear your insights on what you see happening with

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Speaker 3: that state race.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I talked to our good friend Alex Trantefilu a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I said, are people going

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Speaker 1: to be reminded of what Amy Acton did during the

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Speaker 1: Wuhan situation? And I summed it up by saying that

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Speaker 1: she was drunk on power when that whole thing was

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Speaker 1: rolling out. I think Mike de Wine was in a

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Speaker 1: situation where he didn't really know what to do. Amy

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Speaker 1: Acton was the chief medical Officer. I forget the exact

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Speaker 1: title of her position, but she was the main medical

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Speaker 1: officer for the state Ohio. So he was essentially just

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Speaker 1: following her lead. And I remember her one time and

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Speaker 1: they did. They were at that time, they were doing

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Speaker 1: the daily news conferences and so every day, and we

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Speaker 1: took them live over on seven hundred when I was

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Speaker 1: over there, and every day Mike would come on and

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Speaker 1: he'd speak for a couple of minutes, and he turned

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Speaker 1: it over to Amy Acting. And she was asked a

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Speaker 1: question one time at one of these events, and she

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Speaker 1: was almost giddy or giggling, because she says, you know,

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Speaker 1: We've never had this kind of power before. I'd never

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Speaker 1: been in a position where I'm able to say I've

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Speaker 1: always told people that they should do X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 1: but they never listened to me. But now I have

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Speaker 1: this power where I'm able to not only tell people

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Speaker 1: what to do, but tell the governor we need to

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Speaker 1: do X, Y and Z and it gets done. So

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Speaker 1: she she had that little taste of power right there,

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Speaker 1: and she and she took it to extremes, and so

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Speaker 1: I think if she becomes governor, I think we're going

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Speaker 1: to see the same kind of extremes. She she wants

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Speaker 1: to present herself as a moderate, much like Abigail Spamberger

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Speaker 1: did in Virginia Woo. But as you and I both know,

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Speaker 1: she is no moderate. And I think Amy Acton, I

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Speaker 1: think she is cut from the same cloth as in

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Speaker 1: a political sense as spam me. Their their backgrounds are

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Speaker 1: they're because Spamberger was in the in the military and

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Speaker 1: the f beyond all that. But from a political sense,

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Speaker 1: I think they're cut from the same cloth where they

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Speaker 1: will present themselves as moderates. But it should they get

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Speaker 1: into power. We've seen what Spamburger has done with a

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Speaker 1: list of fifty new taxes and fees. Have you seen

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Speaker 1: that list? Oh yeah, I mean dry cleaning, new tax,

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Speaker 1: want to walk your dog? New tax? You want to

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Speaker 1: you want to buy a birthday cake? And new tax

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Speaker 1: for that. I mean, it's it's ridiculous. So the same

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Speaker 1: thing will happen here in Ohio should she find her

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Speaker 1: way to the governor's office.

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Speaker 3: You know, impacted me personally because my daughter was at

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Speaker 3: Saint Clement for her for grade school during this period

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Speaker 3: of time. And I just want to continue to note

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Speaker 3: that the school never closed down. They took precautions, but

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Speaker 3: the school never closed down.

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Speaker 1: And so well Mohler and Elder and I don't think

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Speaker 1: Saint x ever shut down, did not shut down the

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Speaker 1: parochial schools, the private schools, they.

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Speaker 3: Knew better, they knew better. And what was interesting is

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Speaker 3: and this is the truth, that there was tremendous pressure

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Speaker 3: for them to close down, meaning the public school system

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Speaker 3: was closed, saying, shame on you, shame on you. You're

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Speaker 3: putting the lives of these kids on the line. Blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. Here's the payback. Right now, as

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Speaker 3: my daughter graduates from seton, she's prepared for college. Think

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Speaker 3: about those kids that were out of school for two years.

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Speaker 3: We right now don't know what happened, where they are,

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Speaker 3: how their education was impacted. So I could not afford

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Speaker 3: for my daughter to be off school for two years,

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Speaker 3: not getting her education, not being prepared. And that is

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Speaker 3: a story that is very rarely discussed, and I hope

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Speaker 3: it makes it into the gubernatorial discussion well.

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Speaker 1: And and there was a portion of that that blew

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Speaker 1: up in the faces of some of these education advocates

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Speaker 1: who were and Randy Weingarten, the National Federation a Teachers president,

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Speaker 1: tried to she's trying to rewrite history now, saying that

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Speaker 1: she was never in favor of closing down the school.

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Speaker 1: But it was all about the teachers union. The teachers

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Speaker 1: union when a time off for getting paid, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: all about that, correct, But when when parents were looking

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Speaker 1: over the shoulder of their kids who were doing work

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Speaker 1: at home and they're looking at the computers. They're saying,

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Speaker 1: my kid is being taught this. And that's what gave

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Speaker 1: rise to like Moms for Liberty and organizations like that

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Speaker 1: that went into the schools and said, hey, this woke nonsense.

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Speaker 1: It has got to stop. But by that time it's

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Speaker 1: still I mean, they're still trying to root it out,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of that is so deeply ingrained. That

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Speaker 1: has been a very tough slog. But thank god that

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Speaker 1: some of these organizations are onto it, because we might

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Speaker 1: still be in a position where all this is happening

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Speaker 1: in the schools and we really don't have very much

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Speaker 1: awareness of them.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. I mean, think about those kids, and

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Speaker 3: I say this with very deep respect and reverence, who

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Speaker 3: don't have the same structures as other families have, and

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Speaker 3: their kids weren't sitting on the computer at home doing

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Speaker 3: their work. Yeah for two years, right, they were tardy

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Speaker 3: from that and SINCINNTY Public in my opinion, they don't

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Speaker 3: do the self reporting to tell us the ramifications of

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Speaker 3: all of that. Well, I'm just sharing with you that

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Speaker 3: my kidle.

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Speaker 1: In the in the in the administration and teachers at

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Speaker 1: public schools who were telling me privately back then that

871
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: even though these kids were not showing up in a

872
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: virtual sense still in the work on their computers, yep,

873
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: that they were not doing the assign They just said

874
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: they were vanished, they were not there. But the schools

875
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: could not fail them because of the lawsuits that were

876
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: going to come if they if they dared to fail them.

877
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: So even though those kids might have passed with d's

878
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, Cincinnati Public couldn't fail

879
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: they had they had no choice even though these kids

880
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: and didn't put in the time, didn't put in the work,

881
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: didn't do any of what was required, So that there's

882
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: that whole cross section of students who were affected at

883
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: that time. That I mean, I don't know if we

884
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: have any idea, just like you said, of how bad it,

885
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: but all the studies that have been done, everyone who's

886
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: looked at this has said, these consequences are very, very

887
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: bad and.

888
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: As a result of it, and they're playing out right now,

889
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: Dan Carroll, we have a choice right now to elect

890
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: a business minded, pragmatist, home got homeboy from Cincinnati versus

891
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: someone who is who has who villainized the success or,

892
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: has zero policy vision for the state that's our choice.

893
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: As we go into the gubernatorial race, I look forward

894
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: to the debates that will happen. I just hope that

895
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Speaker 3: they get down in the weeds, like you and I

896
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: are talking about how were our children impacted in this

897
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: period of time. And I can tell you that I

898
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: was so blessed. I'm Catholic, my family is Catholic. My daughter,

899
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: you know, had access to Saint Clement. Anybody listening at

900
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: Saint Clement. I love you, guys, I appreciate you. And

901
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: then she pivoted over to Seton Setan never closed. Seton

902
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: was always there. The same thing as you said with

903
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: Elder and Saint X. Why were they able to do it,

904
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: get it done, keep our kids safe, keep their education

905
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: on track, and the public school system couldn't do it?

906
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: Well. We know that you have been an advocate for

907
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: vivik Ramaswami in the strongest You've done, You've done events

908
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: with him. I imagine you'll probably do some between now

909
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: and the election. Absolutely, yeah, uh, and I think Viveca

910
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: is the right guy. But I heard some and we

911
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: got to get to a break here. But before we

912
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Speaker 1: get to that, I wanted to just set up this

913
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: next question for you. I was listening to some political

914
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: analysis yesterday and they were talking about how the vake

915
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: is is facing some difficulty. Now that is somehow Amy

916
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: Acton is picking up steam and her campaign is getting

917
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: things together and Leveke is in trouble right now. That

918
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: that was the analysis I heard. So I'm going to

919
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: ask you when we come back from this break, do

920
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: you think that is true or not? You got it,

921
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Speaker 1: So we'll get the Chris Smithman analysis.

922
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Speaker 3: You got it, and we will.

923
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Speaker 1: Counter what I heard last night. So we'll see what

924
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Speaker 1: happens there. Five one, three, seven, fifty five hundred, if

925
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Speaker 1: you yourself have a question of the one and only

926
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Speaker 1: Chris Smithman. As we roll on till nine this morning

927
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Speaker 1: on fifty five KRC, the talk station, this was your

928
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Speaker 1: week terror he talk station eight nineteen days Carolyn for

929
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas and Chris Mithman. As we went to break

930
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Speaker 1: last time, we were talking about argubernatorial candidate with vike

931
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Speaker 1: Ramaswami and guess who's on the phone, the vacant. It's

932
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Speaker 1: great to have you on fifty five KRC this morning.

933
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Speaker 4: How are you, Good morning, Good morning. I had a

934
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Speaker 4: few minutes. I'll call him and say hello, and you

935
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Speaker 4: know I was in my hometown of Cincinnati over the weekend.

936
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Speaker 4: We had a great time and good to talk to

937
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Speaker 4: you guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you listening to fifty five KRC. I

939
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Speaker 1: was talking about some political analysis that I heard over

940
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Speaker 1: the weekend, and I'm looking at Newsweek right now and

941
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Speaker 1: they're saying that you're trailing Amy acton by ten points

942
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: right now. How can that possibly how can that possibly

943
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: be true?

944
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Speaker 5: Well, I think what you saw is that we came

945
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Speaker 5: out with a massive, massive push on our message, including

946
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Speaker 5: from all of the great fundraising we had last year,

947
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Speaker 5: and within hours of that coming out, I think the

948
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Speaker 5: Democrats were in a tizzy and they put out we

949
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Speaker 5: view as a real.

950
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Speaker 4: Fake piece of old, dated literature that they manufactured a

951
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 4: while ago. But they were caught flat footed. It's a

952
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 4: good sign for us in the end. I'm not a

953
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: horse race guy. I'm not in this to run against

954
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: any particular one candidate Amy Act that I think will

955
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: be a disaster for our state on many levels. But

956
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: more importantly, I'm in this toled Ohio to greater heights

957
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 4: than we've ever seen because we have a historic opportunity

958
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: to step on the gas for our economy, right we have.

959
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: We're doing great as a state in many ways. But

960
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: the way I'm looking at this is I'm a businessman.

961
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 4: I know how to do this. Let's bring high paying

962
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 4: jobs back to our state. Let's take our income tax

963
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 4: rate eventually down to zero. Let's bring that property tax

964
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: burden down. And in a lot of our sectors, the

965
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: regulatory burden is too high. We have too many layers

966
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Speaker 4: of government. Even as a red state, we can fix that.

967
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: That's ultimately how you address this rising challenge of affordability

968
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 4: is put more money back in your pockets and increase wealth.

969
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: Many people in the Democrat camp, including my opponent, who

970
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Speaker 4: liked to villainize success, who like to villainize financial success.

971
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: I want financial success for every Ohio and I've achieved that.

972
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Speaker 4: I was born and raised in Cincinnati, went to public

973
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Speaker 4: schools through eighth grade, went to Stax for high school.

974
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Speaker 4: I was so grateful to this state, into this country,

975
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Speaker 4: for giving me the opportunities that I've had in my life.

976
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Speaker 4: We're raising our kids now in Ohio and circumstances that, frankly,

977
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Speaker 4: my parents would have never imagined when I grew up

978
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: in Westchester and when we grew up in Evendale. But

979
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: the reality is we have a chance to give every

980
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: kid in this state that opportunity and much more. Let

981
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Speaker 4: me someone who really knows what they're doing.

982
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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you about education, because I

983
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Speaker 1: know this is something that is very, very important to you.

984
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Speaker 1: And Chris and I were talking a few minutes ago

985
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Speaker 1: about the manifestations of these kids who were affected during

986
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Speaker 1: the Wuhan, who missed out on serious amounts of schooling,

987
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: and we're seeing those effects taking place right now. How

988
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: do you address that in a meaningful way if you

989
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: were to become governor?

990
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: So, look, we had to bring standards back to our

991
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Speaker 4: public schools. That's something that's been missing for a long time.

992
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: We got to be willing to say. We used to

993
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 4: have the third grade reading guarantee in Ohio. We got

994
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Speaker 4: rid of it. I think we got to bring that

995
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: back to say that if you can't read by the

996
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: end of third grade, then you shouldn't go to fourth

997
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 4: grade in general until you can. Is that asking.

998
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: Level for crying out loud? Is it if we asking

999
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: too much there? I don't think so.

1000
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: Just to be clear on this one, it's not even

1001
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: I'm not even talking about reading out a third grade level,

1002
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: which is what we actually need. I'm saying that at minimum,

1003
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: you have to be able to read it at the

1004
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: end of third grade. Right, many students are able to

1005
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 4: read by kindergarten or first grade, but it should at

1006
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: least be by the end of third grade. That's what

1007
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: sets up a student for success in their life. And

1008
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: you brought up the virus, right, This is important to understand.

1009
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 4: The person that I'm running against is the person who

1010
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: led the crusade as director to shut down our public schools.

1011
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: Ohio was the first state in the country to shut

1012
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: down our public schools. As I told you, I grew

1013
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: up in Cincinnati. I went to public schools myself through

1014
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: eighth grade before going to Saint X. Saint X was

1015
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 4: closed for five days during the pandemic. Cincinnati public schools

1016
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: were closed for nearly two years. Those kids in those

1017
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: public schools will never get those two years of their

1018
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: education back. And this is a crucial point because the

1019
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 4: very people, including my opponent who I'm running against, who

1020
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: will preach about inequality, advance the policies that create that inequality,

1021
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: so chances are next time it won't be a pandemic

1022
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 4: or a virus, it'll be some other question that we

1023
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: don't know about today. But the question is how does

1024
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 4: the leader make decisions? And to me, I make decisions

1025
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: that advance the learning of our kids, not the bureaucracy

1026
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 4: that really runs our public schools today. Certain leaders bend

1027
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 4: the knee and cater to that bureaucracy. I'm a leader

1028
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to education who stands for our students,

1029
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 4: and the same goes with respect our economy. You have

1030
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: many leaders, including on the other side, including my opponent,

1031
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: who bend the knee to the bureaucracy that regulates our economy.

1032
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 4: I actually focus on empowering the small business owners and

1033
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: the entrepreneurs who create economic growth. That's the choice we

1034
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 4: face right. It comes down to very simple choices. You

1035
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: want your property taxes to go down, I'm your man.

1036
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: If you want them to go up, vote for Amy

1037
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: Afton and the Democratic camp. Same thing with respect to

1038
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: income in the state. That's what I know how to bring.

1039
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 4: But if you put somebody who is a far left

1040
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: in some cases even socialist leaning leader, like they have

1041
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 4: in New York City, your business is fleeing our state

1042
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 4: in droves. And it would be a shame to set

1043
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 4: back all the progress if you've had in Ohio.

1044
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: One more to bring to the table.

1045
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: One more question before I let you go. We're getting

1046
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: up against the clock here. Early on in your campaign

1047
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: you talked about how as governor you could help cities

1048
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati deal with crime issues, and that's something that

1049
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: Chris and I were talking about earlier today. As governor,

1050
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: how can you reach down into cities like Cincinnati and

1051
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: other cities in Ohio and help them deal with the

1052
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: crime issues that they're plagued with a great daily basis.

1053
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Speaker 4: It's a great question. It's the same way we're dealing

1054
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: with our public schools. Bring standards back to law enforcement,

1055
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 4: expectations for local governments, and they're not getting state funding

1056
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 4: automatically unless they're really meeting those standards. And as somebody

1057
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: who grew up in Cincinnati, right, you look at the

1058
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: journey of a place like over the Rhine, where it

1059
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: was when I was growing up, right, it was a

1060
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: place where we were warned not to go to having

1061
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: a renaissance, but then now parts of the city receding

1062
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 4: back into being places where older citizens aren't even comfortable

1063
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: walking around. I was talking to two people over the

1064
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 4: weekend in Hamilton County who are an older couple say

1065
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 4: they're now scared to walk around now that they live

1066
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: in an apartment in the city. That's unacceptable, But we

1067
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: can fix this. Empowered our great police officers. I do

1068
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 4: back the blue. I do back our men women in uniform.

1069
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: Empower them to be able to do their jobs without

1070
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: fear of looking over their shoulder for being sued. Fix

1071
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: some of the judicial system issues, the judicial reforms that

1072
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: say that you are not going to just send a

1073
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: violent repeat offender back on the street with forty dollars

1074
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: of bail or no bail, as it's happening regularly. And

1075
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Speaker 4: then let's also bring back some of the mental health care,

1076
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: including mental health institutions where necessary, because our jails are

1077
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: not the right form of mental health care for the

1078
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 4: psychiatrically ill. In some corners, those are controversial things to say,

1079
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 4: but for most Ohiglands, for most Cincinnatians, this is just

1080
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: common sense. It's not black versus white, it's not red

1081
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 4: versus blue. This is about common sense and standing for

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Speaker 4: the people of Cincinnati. My hometown have really unnecessarily suffered

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Speaker 4: one of the great cities in the United States of

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Speaker 4: America is not reaching its full potential because of that

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Speaker 4: fear of crime. And when i'm government, the buck stops

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Speaker 4: with me. All Right. We're not going to pass the

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Speaker 4: hot potato to say well, the local government didn't do this,

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Speaker 4: or that there's a lot of funding that comes from

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Speaker 4: the state. It's not going to be automatic. We're going

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Speaker 4: to apply standards. We're going to do it in a

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Speaker 4: sensible way. And I think a lot of people, many

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Speaker 4: including many of them have historically voted Democrat in the

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Speaker 4: urban court in the inner city, are going to be

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Speaker 4: better off and understand they're going to be better off,

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Speaker 4: and I really invite them to join our coalition. You

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Speaker 4: don't have to agree with me on one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: of issues to know that I'm going to crush crime,

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Speaker 4: including in cities like Cincinnati. I'm going to improve the

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Speaker 4: performance of our public schools, including Cincinnati public schools. And

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Speaker 4: we're going to bring high paying jobs to Cincinnatians, to

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Speaker 4: southwest Ohio and to every part of Ohio. And that

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Speaker 4: isn't about right versus left. That is about up versus down,

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Speaker 4: and I stand for up for Ohio. So a lot

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Speaker 4: of Democrats who feel like they've been left behind by

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Speaker 4: their party. You know what, there is a better way

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Speaker 4: with a pragmatic business leader a lot of independence who

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: may feel politically homeless. You've got a place in our coalition.

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Speaker 4: You have a home right here in this movement for

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Speaker 4: Ohio Io and for me, standing up for my hometown

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Speaker 4: of Cincinnati is top of the list. And we will

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Speaker 4: make sure that we're successful and seeing this through. And

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Speaker 4: appreciate it, appreciate you having me man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Vivig, thanks for coming on. This is Christopher

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Speaker 3: and I just want to say that the two commercials

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Speaker 3: that your team released this weekend, they're awesome. I really

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Speaker 3: like the introduction of the soon to be first lady,

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Speaker 3: your wife, your children, really just introducing you and your

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Speaker 3: family to the state of Ohio. But I also like

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Speaker 3: the other commercial that outlines hey affordability, talking about supporting

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Speaker 3: law and order our police. We need a leader like

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Speaker 3: that at the state level to deal with the serious

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Speaker 3: issues that are facing the state of Ohio. So I

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Speaker 3: just want to thank you for those very excellent commercials

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Speaker 3: that I saw released this weekend.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, Christopher, and look, I'm a family man

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Speaker 4: at the end of it. And that's why I'm motivated

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Speaker 4: to do this is we just welcomed our third kid,

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Speaker 4: our first daughter, into the world, a little over a

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Speaker 4: month ago. And you know, sometimes you look yourself in

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Speaker 4: the mirror and ask yourself, why am I doing all

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Speaker 4: of this? And I'm doing it because I want our

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Speaker 4: kids and their generation to have the same opportunities that

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Speaker 4: I have. And I'm not in this for the money.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully we've been blessed. I'm not in this for fame.

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Speaker 4: There's other ways to get that than running in a

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Speaker 4: state specific election, and I've come from that.

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Speaker 1: I'm in this because I.

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Speaker 4: Know I can make a difference. I know we can

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Speaker 4: lead Ohio to be the top state in the country

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Speaker 4: for our kids, for our families, for their generation. Be Christopher,

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Speaker 4: You're a living example of that American dream yourself, right.

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Speaker 4: I love your story. I love your success both as

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Speaker 4: a businessman but also as an advocate, somebody who.

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Speaker 1: Believed in public service.

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Speaker 4: And you know, unlike me, you're not a Republican, right,

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Speaker 4: You're an independent. But it doesn't matter because the issues

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Speaker 4: we're talking about are common sense issues that are going

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Speaker 4: to lift up the lives of Ohioans, protect them in

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Speaker 4: our cities, bring back law and order, bring back accelerating

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Speaker 4: economic growth, Increase those wages, bring down those electric bills

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Speaker 4: and other costs that we know we can bring down,

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Speaker 4: and most importantly, over the long run, improve the quality

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Speaker 4: of education for our kids. I don't know anybody who

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Speaker 4: disagrees with that, all right, So I think that's why

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Speaker 4: I'm running for governor, and we'll be able to win

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Speaker 4: this decisively with the support of your listeners, which I

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Speaker 4: immensely appreciate.

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Speaker 1: All Right, but thek we'll have to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for picking up the phone, Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to fifty five KRC. Glad to know you're there, and

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Speaker 1: we'll hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you

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Speaker 1: again before too long.

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Speaker 4: Love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, there you go. The vike Ramaswami

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Speaker 1: running for governor. Outstanding. We got to get to a

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Speaker 1: break on fifty five k Talk Station fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll from Brian and Thomas hanging out with Chris

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Speaker 1: Smytheman and the vike Ramaswami took up a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time there, so this will be a short segment.

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Speaker 1: You okay with that can you do a short segment.

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Speaker 4: I can do it.

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Speaker 3: I can do it short man.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look is that possible for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? If he had even more time and we would

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Speaker 3: just sit, I can continue.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic stretch out. He's fantastic. I think we would be

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Speaker 1: extremely fortunate to have a guy like that in uh

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Speaker 1: in the Governor's mansion and UH and running things here

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. I just think, I mean, he he's he's bold,

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Speaker 1: he's unafraid. UH, he supports Trump and and and the

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Speaker 1: one part of his campaign that I like is talking

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Speaker 1: about how the vision that he has for Ohio ties

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Speaker 1: in with what Trump has done. And he's got intimate

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Speaker 1: knowledge of Trump and his agenda and what he wants

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Speaker 1: to do because he was working, and I would I

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Speaker 1: really wish he would have been on the Doge team. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I really think that would have been an important thing.

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Speaker 1: But he, you know, he's he had his own way

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Speaker 1: to go, which I appreciate that, and I'm perfectly fine

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Speaker 1: with that. But tying that in and making that work

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Speaker 1: seamlessly with what what with Trump is trying to do,

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Speaker 1: I think can only be good for Ohio in in

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Speaker 1: a lot of different there you know, politically. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that don't want to have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with Trump, but I think in the law

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Speaker 1: long run, I think it'd be great for the state.

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Speaker 3: Look, I love hearing him talk about common sense issues.

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Speaker 3: I love hearing him. I love hearing him talk about accountability.

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Speaker 3: These are things that are lost in our government. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we're watching states involved with like in Minnesota, with all

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Speaker 3: of this corruption that's happening, and so having somebody acutely

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Speaker 3: in the state House, in the mansion who understands business

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Speaker 3: is going to be critical for the next eight years

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, for the state of Ohio. So what

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Speaker 3: a great interview. I hope all of your listening audiences

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Speaker 3: heard that we should be registering our eighteen year olds

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Speaker 3: to vote, like I did. My daughter turned eighteen. I

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Speaker 3: registered her to vote so that she can vote in

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Speaker 3: the primary, she can vote in the general election. There

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Speaker 3: are a lot of people around this state who have

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Speaker 3: families whose children, Dan Carroll, are turning eighteen, and they're

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Speaker 3: going to make the mistake to allow their colleges to

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Speaker 3: register them to vote. Do not allow your child to

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Speaker 3: go away to college without registering the vote.

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Speaker 1: I said, this has got to be a short segment.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know who else was listening, brad Winstrops.

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Speaker 1: Now he's on the hotway. Here we go, So we'll

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Speaker 1: do this break and we'll get to the congressman Winstrip

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Speaker 1: right after this on fifty five k r CV talk stations.

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Speaker 1: It's like nothing to it, right. Chris Smitheman is with

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Speaker 1: us in studio this morning, and when Chris Smitheman is here,

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Speaker 1: the celebrity hotline just blows up. So we just got

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Speaker 1: done talking with a Vike Ramaswami. Now we turned to

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Speaker 1: the former congressman. Well, I guess they'm never really a

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Speaker 1: former congressman, but you know, it's all. It's my pleasure

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Speaker 1: to welcome in brad Winstrip to the show today and Congressman,

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Speaker 1: how are you today?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: It's been a pleasure to listen to two of my friends,

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Speaker 7: top common Sense, actually three with the Vike coming on there.

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Speaker 1: He's terrific. You know, we were talking about a little

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Speaker 1: bit about Amy acting and what was going on during

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Speaker 1: the Wuhan and I was telling Chris, it was several

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Speaker 1: months ago when your committee came out with the report

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Speaker 1: on what happened during the COVID nineteen and just how

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Speaker 1: eye opening and how revealing that report was. And I

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Speaker 1: still remember that day. You sat right across from me

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Speaker 1: and we had an hour in the studio to talk

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Speaker 1: about that and really only scratch the surface of what

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Speaker 1: was revealed during that time. But the educational aspect of

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Speaker 1: this is something that I think gets overlooked a lot.

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Speaker 1: And the damage that was in thek talked about that,

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Speaker 1: the damage that was done to these kids by the

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Speaker 1: way they were handled during the Wuhan and really how

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Speaker 1: they were poorly served. The Teachers' Union was probably served

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Speaker 1: just fine, but when it came to actually dealing with

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Speaker 1: the kids, they got the short end of the stick.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: It was interesting. We had Randy Weingarten and for an

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Speaker 7: opening and the day before her people came in, counted

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Speaker 7: how many seats in the hearing room. They made sure

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Speaker 7: that they brought in all their people and took up

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Speaker 7: every seat in the hearing room to be there to

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Speaker 7: support her. But you know, we conducted the entire two

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Speaker 7: year pandemic review in a way that you don't see

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Speaker 7: very often in two years on the Republican side, we

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Speaker 7: didn't mention Republican or Democrat. One time. We didn't talk

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Speaker 7: about political party, but you know, when she was in there,

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Speaker 7: she was getting kudos from the Democrats. But as we

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Speaker 7: went through things and we were able to go through

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Speaker 7: their emails during this time and what they were talking about.

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Speaker 7: One of the things that stood out with the conversations

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Speaker 7: amongst the teachers' union leadership was that they said we

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Speaker 7: need a trigger to close. Not once did I find

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Speaker 7: anything that said we need to get the kids back

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Speaker 7: in the classroom. It's important that we get them caught up.

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Speaker 7: They're never going to be able to succeed if we

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Speaker 7: don't get them in the classroom and teaching them one

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Speaker 7: way or another.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't I don't want to interrupt you. But

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Speaker 1: was that the hearing where she was trying to rewrite

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Speaker 1: history where she was saying I never advocated for schools

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Speaker 1: to be closed. We were the ones who were trying

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Speaker 1: to get them reopen. Was that was that the hearing

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Speaker 1: where she was trying to do that.

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Speaker 7: She she did have statements like that, and then I

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Speaker 7: think there was some group they worked with, maybe in

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Speaker 7: Massachusetts later to talk about school reopenings, but that was

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Speaker 7: way late in the whole situation, and what you guys

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Speaker 7: were talking about is fair. You know, there was a

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Speaker 7: There were the schools, and I would tell you my

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Speaker 7: rural schools were open too, and the district that I

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Speaker 7: represented went all the way to West Virginia and the

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Speaker 7: rural schools they went to class, They went to class.

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Speaker 7: It was more city based than anywhere else, but it

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Speaker 7: was it was a problem for sure, and they'd done

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Speaker 7: nothing and they still that I know, have not addressed

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Speaker 7: how we're going to get our kids up up to speed.

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Speaker 7: And we're falling terribly behind other countries.

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Speaker 4: As we know.

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Speaker 7: I saw recently one that said a seventh grader in

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Speaker 7: America on average, is at the level of a third

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Speaker 7: grader in China.

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Speaker 1: How about that. Let me let me ask you another

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Speaker 1: question about something that has come up recently, and Scott Assent,

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of the Treasury, said it was probably three

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Speaker 1: or four weeks ago that he was looking at putting

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Speaker 1: a number on the amount of fraud that goes on

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Speaker 1: with various government programs, and he put that number at

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Speaker 1: six hundred billion dollars every year. Brad winstrip that gets

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Speaker 1: wasted and is just flushed down the drain as it

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Speaker 1: relates to fraud in this country. The number is probably

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Speaker 1: actually bigger than that. But when you hear a number

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Speaker 1: like that every single year that we are losing six

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Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars, it's a fraud in this country, does

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Speaker 1: that shock you? Surprise you at all? The number is

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Speaker 1: that big?

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Speaker 7: Not at this boot. It might have surprised me when

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Speaker 7: I first started the in Congress, but it didn't when

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Speaker 7: I got towards the end, because I could see exactly

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Speaker 7: why this was happening in so many fronts. Part of

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Speaker 7: it is that the agencies don't really have the capabilities

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Speaker 7: to catch fraud. And then the other thing is when

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Speaker 7: we went through the COVID era, for example, on Ways

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Speaker 7: and Means Committee, when they were talking about unemployment and

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Speaker 7: taking care of those benefits and getting all that out,

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Speaker 7: the Democrats insisted on self attestation. In other words, you

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Speaker 7: didn't have to prove in any way, shape and shape

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Speaker 7: or form really who you were and are you really unemployed?

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Speaker 7: And we thought that and they insisted on you don't

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Speaker 7: have to attest and improve in any way. It's kind

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Speaker 7: of goes with the voting thing. You don't have to

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Speaker 7: prove really who you are and I don't get this,

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Speaker 7: but it's created a lot of mayhem and certainly has

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Speaker 7: ripped off the taxpayers. So everyone who goes to work

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Speaker 7: and pay taxes need to know that it's these types

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Speaker 7: of policies and deficiencies within the agencies that is throwing

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Speaker 7: their hard on dollars out the window to people not

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Speaker 7: only in this country that are committing fraud but overseas.

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Speaker 1: As you look at why it has become impossible to

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Speaker 1: pass legislation that would deal with voter identification, Why has

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Speaker 1: this debate gone the way it's.

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Speaker 7: Gone, Well, I think that they have their reasons. They'll

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Speaker 7: try and throw out everything is is Jim Crow and

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Speaker 7: this and that, but they know that they can go

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Speaker 7: around and rally people to vote in California, you know,

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Speaker 7: going door to door. The policies are somewhat crazy, and

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Speaker 7: requiring an ID would make it more difficult for them

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Speaker 7: to be able to do that, I guess is their reason.

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Speaker 7: But there really is no good reason. Everything requires an

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Speaker 7: ID today and they know it. And I think that

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Speaker 7: real American citizens, people that care about this country, people

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Speaker 7: that value their citizenship, will be the ones to say, yes,

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Speaker 7: you should value your citizenship the same way I do

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Speaker 7: and prove that you are a US citizen and you.

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Speaker 4: Are who you are.

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Speaker 7: And I think the majority of people, as we know,

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Speaker 7: this is a common sense issue that has high value,

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Speaker 7: and I don't understand why they want to keep pursuing

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Speaker 7: just the opposite. It doesn't even make.

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Speaker 1: Eighty plus percent of Republicans agree with this. Seventy six

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Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of Democrats want this. You've got Hispanics

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Speaker 1: and other minorities in the seventy percent range that want this,

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Speaker 1: And the notion that we can't get the Save America

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Speaker 1: Act through and have common sense legislation that says, you know,

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Speaker 1: we want American citizens to vote in our elections and

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Speaker 1: we don't want illegal aliens voting in our elections. It

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Speaker 1: just if you would have told me ten years ago

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Speaker 1: that we'd be having a problem getting legislation like this approved,

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Speaker 1: especially when Republicans have control of the White House, the House,

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Speaker 1: and the Senate, I would have said that you're crazy

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 7: Well, of course, the problem predominantly lives in the Senate.

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Speaker 7: And let's just face it, there are just too many

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Speaker 7: people in the Democrat Party that if Donald Trump says

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Speaker 7: he's in favor of something, they will be against it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, just you watch it visibly during the State

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Speaker 7: of the Union. I mean, the wonderful things that he

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Speaker 7: was pointing out. Any times they couldn't even applaud because

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Speaker 7: he said it. And when you let your hatred dominate

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Speaker 7: your common sense and overrule your common sense, it's really

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Speaker 7: a problem for us as a country, especially if you're

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Speaker 7: in a position of leadership serving in the House of

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Speaker 7: the Senate. That is a problem for America today. And

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Speaker 7: I'm ashamed that some people can't get over it. And

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Speaker 7: it's been interesting to hear the comments from John Fetterman,

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Speaker 7: the Democrat senator who seems to be going in the

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Speaker 7: other direction from many of his Democrat colleagues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a He's turned out to be a bit

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Speaker 1: of a surprise, and it turned out to be actually

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Speaker 1: courageous in the fact that and he's not doing anything

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Speaker 1: that's all that radical. He's simply looking at the facts

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Speaker 1: and the truth of the situation and speaking truth to

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Speaker 1: what's actually going on. But brad Winstrip, we're up against

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Speaker 1: the clock. We got to run. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for checking in this morning. And Chris Smitheman has something

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Speaker 1: for you real quick.

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Speaker 3: Congressman, thank you so much for coming on. Great and

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Speaker 3: I and both both Dan Carroll and I and I

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Speaker 3: think I thanked him for his service. And we thank

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Speaker 3: you for your service, your military service to our country.

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Speaker 7: Well same of you, fellas.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. God bless you all right.

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Speaker 1: Brad Winstrop, thank you very much. Take care of yourself,

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Speaker 1: have a great day. Eight forty nine, we got to

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Speaker 1: get to a break on fifty five KRC de talk station.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five KRC dot com talk station.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, all right, fifty five KRC the talk station, getting

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Speaker 1: ready to wrap things up with Chris smitheman in studio

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of hours. So, uh seven and

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Speaker 1: nine this morning, it has flown right by. And not

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Speaker 1: only did we have a Vike Ramas Swami check in,

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Speaker 1: we had brad Winstrip checking in as well. So you'll,

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Speaker 1: Joe will people be able to listen to that on

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Speaker 1: the podcast a little bit later. So you can check

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Speaker 1: that out on the podcast a little bit later on

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Speaker 1: this morning. But Chris, we've got about a minute and

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Speaker 1: a half here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the final word.

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Speaker 3: No, thanks for having me on. People can follow me

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Speaker 3: at vote Smitherman. I like that because I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: create a community on X where I can continue to

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Speaker 3: communicate in between the week in between the Monday. So

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Speaker 3: I thank you Dan Carroll for having me on and

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Speaker 3: I've enjoyed my time with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I appreciate you being here, especially during your

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Speaker 1: busy time, and appreciate the vake Ramis said, it's so

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Speaker 1: cool to know that the vike Ramas Swami and brad

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Speaker 1: Winstrip and many others are listening to us, listening to

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Speaker 1: the conversation. Yeah, I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Itty, It's pretty awesome. And I and I said in

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Speaker 3: the break, it would be nice to have the other

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Speaker 3: candidates coming and calling in and giving you an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I like about it, that's just it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Strecker, if if if I'm look, I'm

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Speaker 1: not here every day, But if Amy Acton called in

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Speaker 1: and wanted to come on and show, I'd be more

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Speaker 1: than happy. And I mean Brian Thomas would be more

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Speaker 1: than happy to have her on. And he has on

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Speaker 1: candidates from from any any political strike. He has them

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Speaker 1: on all the time. So it's the phones are you know,

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Speaker 1: our Misa, it's right. I don't know how to say

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Speaker 1: radio in Spanish me radio radio.

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Speaker 3: But that's one of the things that I like about

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Speaker 3: vive A, and and and and and many in many

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Speaker 3: of his peers. They go on all the shows. They

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Speaker 3: don't mind. They make themselves available to the American people.

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Speaker 3: I don't see the same from the other side.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got to run, Thanks Chris, Thank you man.

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Speaker 1: Great great time, really great time to go to work now, buddy,

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Speaker 1: gotta go to work. Be careful. I know you're driving

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Speaker 1: around the city, so be careful out there, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Glenn Beck is coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Joe Strekker, thank you for everything. I get to see

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Speaker 1: you again tomorrow morning, so I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: On fifty