WEBVTT - Bret Boone on Almost Done Mariners, Mindsets, Dan Wilson, Respect

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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you live from our Elliott Avenue studios of

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM, it's time for our weekly conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with former Mariners All-Star Brett Boone. Brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>with Booney, here's Softie and Dick.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, how much do you think the very next

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<v Speaker 2>Seahawks home game is going for right now? What do

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<v Speaker 2>we got next week?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is that?

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<v Speaker 2>The next game will be the Chargers. God, the Hawks

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<v Speaker 2>are not home until October 4th.

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<v Speaker 2>$ 293. Wow, no way. Get in? To get in the door.

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<v Speaker 2>for anything at VenueKings.com. Well, here he is, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that, guys, we may have officially reached Lou Piniella's

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<v Speaker 2>story time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we have.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless it. With our friend Brett Boone. Nine games

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<v Speaker 2>to go, five and a half out, Booney. You make

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<v Speaker 2>the call. You tell us. Is it Lou Piniella story

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<v Speaker 2>time or not yet?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go back now. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>into player mode. You've got to be delusional. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>over yet. Until they tell you, until they put that

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<v Speaker 3>little squiggly line at the top that says you're eliminated,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not eliminated. So you've got to win out.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you've got to do. And you're still probably

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<v Speaker 3>not going to make it. You've got to win out.

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<v Speaker 3>At this stage of the season, this is the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on teams– By the way, we're in this

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<v Speaker 3>position a lot earlier than September 17th. And it is,

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<v Speaker 3>that's when, the term dog days, that's when they come in.

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<v Speaker 3>And you truly have to find a way as a player,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's, all right, I'm going to get selfish. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to get these numbers for my resume. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to find something to get up in the morning, come

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<v Speaker 3>to the ballpark, and have a purpose. The only thing

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at with their schedule, they've got the Rockies,

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<v Speaker 3>they've finished with the Angels. You've got two games in

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<v Speaker 3>between for the Astros. Do you want to ruin the Astros' season?

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<v Speaker 3>That could be a self-motivating thing. But at this stage, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about as grim as it could be. But you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to find a way to play these out the

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<v Speaker 3>right way.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hoping for a story. Well, we'll get a story.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've got one week left.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get a story.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still have a story if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get one at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>All those things you say are true. However.

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<v Speaker 2>Does this look like a group.

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<v Speaker 4>Of guys that gives a damn about any of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest, and I hate to say that. No,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't. They don't. I've watched over the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've just seen several kind of, you know, woe-is-me

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<v Speaker 3>moments from different players. But that doesn't mean as a

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<v Speaker 3>collective you let that stand. I mean, look, you go

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<v Speaker 3>up and down this roster. I mean, how many guys

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<v Speaker 3>could walk away from this season and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a pretty good year? Or Rose Arena? He

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<v Speaker 3>did a lot more than you expected from him. Cole

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<v Speaker 3>Emerson and Cade Anderson, they got their cup of coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've struggled, which might be a good thing in

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<v Speaker 3>the long run. You know, Cade Anderson had about as

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable season as possible in AA, and he comes to

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<v Speaker 3>the big leagues. Big leagues is different, but that might

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<v Speaker 3>be good for him. I always say, I look back

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<v Speaker 3>at my career, good times, bad times, I learned a

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<v Speaker 3>hell of a lot more from getting my butt kicked

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<v Speaker 3>than kicking butt. I'll tell you that. So that might

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<v Speaker 3>be a positive thing going forward. But there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>around this season. And, you know, couple that with the

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<v Speaker 3>expectations going into this season. I was thinking about teams

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<v Speaker 3>to compare them to because there's a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 3>having bad years. But you said, oh, yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 3>how they didn't have a good year. This guy got hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy got hurt. They weren't that good to begin with.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't find anything because they didn't have any major setbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>You had Brash in the bullpen. Okay, he's a key

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<v Speaker 3>part of that bullpen, but he's not. the key that

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<v Speaker 3>makes that team go. And you look up and down

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<v Speaker 3>for the injury. All right, what's the excuse? Why didn't

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<v Speaker 3>we put it together? And I think about back to

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<v Speaker 3>that 2021 Chicago White Sox. They had Giolito and Cease

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<v Speaker 3>and Keichel and Rodon in the rotation. They were coming

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<v Speaker 3>off 90, I don't know, 91, 93 games. The next

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<v Speaker 3>year they went 500, and then they lose 100 games

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<v Speaker 3>every year. I thought that was the start of something

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<v Speaker 3>in Chicago like, this is going to be a team

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<v Speaker 3>to be reckoned with for years to come. It took

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<v Speaker 3>till this year, you know, Chicago's in a battle right now,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were, they're a hell of a lot better

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<v Speaker 3>than they were a year ago. But I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>was the most disappointing team for me back then. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how did the White Sox just fall apart with that,

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<v Speaker 3>with that roster? That's what I look at with this

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<v Speaker 3>Mariner roster. There's no rhyme. I can't, I can't, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're not even close to 500. Right. With a roster

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<v Speaker 3>that hasn't been banged up. So it's, it's just been

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<v Speaker 3>disappointment all around this year for, for, uh, Seattle Mariners.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, Booney, I'm with you. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>it's the most talented roster with the highest ceiling in

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<v Speaker 2>the division, but they're terrible. I mean, they're 3-7 in

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<v Speaker 2>their last 10 games against the Angels and the A's.

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<v Speaker 2>You flip that around and go 7-3, and you're a

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<v Speaker 2>game and a half out right now. That's all you

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<v Speaker 2>had to do, right, was just take advantage of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Pathetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>They lose 5 of 7 to the A's, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the worst teams in baseball. And then you get swept

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<v Speaker 3>by the Blue Jays. Which, you know, Blue Jays are

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<v Speaker 3>fighting for a wild card.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're, at best.

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<v Speaker 3>A 500 team this year. Yeah, you can't play like

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<v Speaker 3>that down the stretch if you want to play in October.

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<v Speaker 2>Booney, hang on a second because I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>sure that we get your thoughts on Dan. You played

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<v Speaker 2>with Dan. I know it's hard for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people to criticize Dan. I mean, I still think that

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<v Speaker 2>his legacy in this town is secure after what he

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<v Speaker 2>did as a player. It was a failed experiment as

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<v Speaker 2>a manager. I mean, it's funny how, you know, eight

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<v Speaker 2>more outs and it's totally different. You know, eight outs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking like maybe 40 minutes of baseball. And this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's legacy is not only secure but increased significantly. a

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<v Speaker 2>thousandfold if he's the skipper that gets us to a

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<v Speaker 2>World Series. But Dick mentioned it, and you said they

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<v Speaker 2>don't look like they care. Their desire looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>in the gutter. They look like they've quit. There's no accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's being held accountable by the skipper whatsoever. Guys are

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<v Speaker 2>playing like clowns out there, and nobody's getting benched. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>getting aired out. I am surprised at the absolute lack

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<v Speaker 2>of accountability on this baseball team and the perception that

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<v Speaker 2>I have formed, Booney. If I'm wrong, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>culture on this thing stinks right now. I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>you agree with that and if a new skipper can

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<v Speaker 2>change that next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think, yeah. You know, from where we're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at it, yeah, it looks like they're running amok. Nobody cares.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the body language they're showing. And that's on the players.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we talk a lot and you hear a

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<v Speaker 3>lot on Twitter. It's, oh, they need to be coached.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to be disciplined. They need to be yelled at.

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<v Speaker 3>These aren't children. These are big league players. When you

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<v Speaker 3>don't do your job, you need to be fired. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about Dan. I'm talking about players. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the middle of a multi-year contract and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't do that. But it's not as easy to walk

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<v Speaker 3>up to a guy making $ 20 million a year and

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<v Speaker 3>show your discipline. You know what a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 3>in today's game make of them? They laugh at you. Like, oh, really? No,

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<v Speaker 3>it starts with respect in the room, respect in the skipper,

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<v Speaker 3>and the skipper returning that respect. I think... And we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it a couple weeks ago. I think, Danny,

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<v Speaker 3>you go back to a year and a half. Was

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<v Speaker 3>it two and a half years ago when he was

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<v Speaker 3>initially hired?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, 24.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was smooth sailing. Yeah, it was smooth sailing,

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<v Speaker 3>and he did well. And then last year, he did

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<v Speaker 3>really well. And then all of a sudden, the expectations came,

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<v Speaker 3>and they weren't doing very well at the beginning, and

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<v Speaker 3>they never turned it around. Now, of course, at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, if you're in that skipper position,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a reflection of you, and you're going to wear it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to own it. Whether he's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>fired or not, I don't know. That's a part of

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<v Speaker 3>the game. But as far as he needs to discipline

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<v Speaker 3>people and yell at people and hold people accountable, it's

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<v Speaker 3>easier said than done in today's day and age to

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<v Speaker 3>hold a big leaguer accountable. There's things you can do,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's the way you go about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about a week ago how Danny's Danny, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love Danny. But he's not going to change his personality,

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<v Speaker 3>and his personality isn't going to change just to formulate

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<v Speaker 3>into what needs to be done this week. Players see

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<v Speaker 3>through that. Players are not stupid. They know who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>They know how you run the ship. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>do an about face in the middle of the season,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to picture that as phony, not authentic, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to respond to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough to say. You know, guys down there, I

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<v Speaker 3>really don't. talk or know anybody down there except for Edgar,

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<v Speaker 3>who was there last year for that run and can

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<v Speaker 3>be a big presence in a clubhouse, different being a

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<v Speaker 3>player than when you're a coach. But, no, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>put it on Danny. That being said, obviously he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get a lot of it. He's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it because you're the skipper, and the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom line is wins and losses, it's your job, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're responsible. And I think he'd say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But as far as how he went about it, how

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<v Speaker 3>he ran that clubhouse. The greatest clubhouses I've ever been

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<v Speaker 3>in run themselves. There's no skipper. There's no coaches cracking

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<v Speaker 3>the whip. They're players monitoring players. That's what you create.

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<v Speaker 3>And we talked about this as well. You create the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts in the minor leagues. How you come to

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<v Speaker 3>the ballpark, how you play the game. How you hold

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<v Speaker 3>each other accountable. When you don't run out a ground ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know who I'm talking about, on a double play,

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<v Speaker 3>and you give them a double play, that's not really

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<v Speaker 3>for Danny. He should be tackled, and I say tackled,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm being sarcastic, but really disciplined by his teammates well

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<v Speaker 3>before he gets to to that place in the dugout

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<v Speaker 3>where the skipper is. You see what I'm saying? I

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<v Speaker 3>just think of myself on the great teams I was on.

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<v Speaker 3>If I did something like that, I would get an

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<v Speaker 3>earful from three or four guys, and I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 3>have to get to the skipper, and I would be

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<v Speaker 3>licking my wounds in the corner. Now, I wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 3>that because I wouldn't do that. You know, fortunately for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I never had to be yelled at for not running hard.

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<v Speaker 3>One time I got disciplined by a guy that I

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<v Speaker 3>had so much respect for Paul Molitor's my hitting coach

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<v Speaker 3>in 04, and I was in Texas, and I hit

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<v Speaker 3>a one-hopper back to the pitcher. And it was late

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<v Speaker 3>in the season, and we were out of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>the pitcher just grabbed the ball, one-hop, boom. He sprinted

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<v Speaker 3>to first base and flipped it to the first baseman.

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<v Speaker 3>I got about halfway down the line. I turned around

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<v Speaker 3>and came back. And Paulie, man, he's never said a

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<v Speaker 3>negative word to me, kind of gave me that look.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, Molly, what's wrong? He goes... And he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of gave me that fatherly, you son of a bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>you run that thing out. You touch first base. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was like coming from my dad. I was so

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<v Speaker 3>disappointed that I disappointed him. And I was beside myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just sat at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I got like, man, Paul Moller is disappointing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy I look up to. I respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I played, you know, he was my hit coach, but

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<v Speaker 3>I played against him for years. And that was enough

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I never even thought about it. ever again

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<v Speaker 3>not touching first base when I hit a ground ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if I was out by 15 feet.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's things like that that come from people that

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<v Speaker 3>really hurt. It stings when if they give you that look,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, wow, I really disappointed him. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't see that on this team. It's like nobody, when

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<v Speaker 3>they do something, it's like nobody's disappointed in them and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't really care. I'm not saying that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. I'm not in that clubhouse. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know these guys. I'd probably have a completely different perception

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<v Speaker 3>of them if i was living with them on a

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<v Speaker 3>daily basis but i'm just talking about the visual what

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<v Speaker 3>we see day in and day out the body language

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<v Speaker 3>isn't good.

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<v Speaker 4>Well brett i'm glad you brought up oh four because

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<v Speaker 4>i mean that was a season that you went from

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<v Speaker 4>93 wins to 63 wins in oh four and was

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<v Speaker 4>there something similar to what you're seeing with this team

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<v Speaker 4>why did that team you know cavern the way it

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<v Speaker 4>did in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh four I think a lot different. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was an age thing. I think it had run out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was the year that Danny's last year,

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<v Speaker 3>that was Olerud got designated for a sign. He got

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<v Speaker 3>designated that year. Edgar, that was the year where they

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of, he was not going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>DH anymore. He was retired and he announced it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that year for us, it was just a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of, That team that was in its prime in 01, 02, 03,

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<v Speaker 3>and by 04, guys were getting a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys were getting out of their prime, and you started

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<v Speaker 3>to see a decline, and the writing was on the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see that with this crew. This crew is

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<v Speaker 3>still youthful and still all should be in their prime,

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<v Speaker 3>so I can't give them that olive branch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man. Well, mercifully, the season is about to

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<v Speaker 2>come to an end next Sunday, final game of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>unless these guys pull off a miracle. How about we

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<v Speaker 2>do this? How about we reserve story time, Lou Piniella

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<v Speaker 2>story time, for next week? Because by this time next week,

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<v Speaker 2>they're likely going to be done, and we might need

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<v Speaker 2>stories for 20 minutes on the air out of you

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<v Speaker 2>next week. So start thinking about the good ones, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to even make a few up,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine by us, by the way, all right, for

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<v Speaker 2>next week's show.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll give them a call and say, hey, Skipper,

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<v Speaker 3>refresh me on some stories that I forgot when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Softie and Dick need some stories because Mariners aren't playing

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<v Speaker 3>very well.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man. We'll talk in a week. Brett Boone

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<v Speaker 2>at VenueKings.com. I mean, obviously, he's 1,000% right. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know who that person would be to grab Naylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy that would be the guy grabbing

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<v Speaker 2>Naylor would be Naylor, right? I mean, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Julio Rodriguez. I mean, Randy Orozarena seems like

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<v Speaker 2>he's still playing hard, but I think he's checked out

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<v Speaker 2>to his next destination with this baseball team. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see anybody holding anybody accountable. The manager looks like he

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<v Speaker 2>knows the end is near. I've made the analogy to

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<v Speaker 2>the captain in Pirates of the Caribbean where they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>bombed to death by Jack Sparrow, and he's just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there with a blank stare on his face and has

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<v Speaker 2>no answer for anything. So, I mean, this is– I

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<v Speaker 2>just wonder if it goes deeper than just getting a

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<v Speaker 2>new leader in there, Dick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Like, does this team– and this is where we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this yesterday, right, guys? The questions for Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>DiPoto and John Stanton at a press conference, like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have a culture problem that exists with players

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<v Speaker 2>on your roster?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That need to go, or is this really just about

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<v Speaker 2>getting a new leader in the dugout that can change

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<v Speaker 2>the culture overnight? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's coincidence that both years that Gino

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<v Speaker 4>Suarez was on this team, they played great down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 4>And for those that said, oh, Gino Suarez sucks, we

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't trade for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just let you know that he's got a.

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<v Speaker 4>900 OPS since the trade deadline. 900.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but didn't the Reds try to get rid of him?

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<v Speaker 2>They did, but they brought him back.

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<v Speaker 4>His September, he's got a 997 OPS with four home runs.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that would have equaled maybe three or

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<v Speaker 4>four more wins?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he would have done that here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still would have signed him. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed him. I would have picked him up off waivers.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's the guy that would grab you by the

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<v Speaker 4>nape of the neck and say, you know what, shape

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<v Speaker 4>up or ship out, man.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mariners had a chance at him, as did every

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<v Speaker 2>team in baseball, and they didn't want him because of

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<v Speaker 2>his salary. I mean, for a lot of other reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the hell they're doing at

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<v Speaker 2>third base right now. Like, what do you have at

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<v Speaker 2>third base that would possibly be any better than what

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<v Speaker 2>Gino Suarez would have brought to the table? I mean, again, overall,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a very good player anymore, but Guess what

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<v Speaker 2>you also don't have at third base? Very good players.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can bring in some chemistry with a

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<v Speaker 2>kid like that or a guy like that, I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>would have done it. And maybe he would have been

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between going 2-7 against the Angels and A's

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<v Speaker 2>and then instead going 7-2. And then you're a game

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<v Speaker 2>and a half out of first place. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it just kind of feels like, and again, this is

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<v Speaker 2>just the perception. And perception often is reality. It just

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<v Speaker 2>feels like these guys identified the players and management weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago that they're not going anywhere, and they just said

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<v Speaker 2>to hell with it. Why even bother improving this baseball team?

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<v Speaker 2>Why even bother trying? Because this thing's done. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry did two years ago. Three years ago, right? When

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<v Speaker 2>he traded Paul Seawald. And now you got Ken Rosenthal.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw the latest from him.

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<v Speaker 2>He came out today in a story for The Athletic,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean, he's kind of insinuating that, hey, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the Mariners should be taking a look at Jerry DiPoto

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Guy's been here for 11 years, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>made the playoffs twice. I mean, part of that was

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<v Speaker 2>by his own doing because they ripped the whole thing down,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also chose to do that. Like, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>get a free pass because you're losing on purpose and

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to win one day. If you lose on purpose

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<v Speaker 2>and you hope to win, and then you eventually start

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<v Speaker 2>to win and make the playoffs multiple times in three

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<v Speaker 2>or four years or consecutive years, and you get to

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<v Speaker 2>a World Series win, whatever, but I don't think anything

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<v Speaker 2>should be off the table when the season's over for

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<v Speaker 2>these guys, and I just hope everything is on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope that John Stanton and the powers that

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<v Speaker 2>be over there at T-Mobile Park are willing to take

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<v Speaker 2>a look at everything, no matter how hard it is, right?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's hope they do.