1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: As the week moves on, we will get dialed into 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars coming off a really big win forty 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: eight points they scored against the Jets, six touchdowns for 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. So that's gonna be a bear of a game. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. Coming up here in a little 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: bit after five point thirty, we'll hear Dave's conversation with 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: bo Nix from after the game yesterday. I didn't want 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: to ask you guys about Riley Moss for a moment. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: We played the pascertain interception, pivotal, pivotal moment in the game. 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: But Riley Mosk got called for a DPI in the game. 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: And here was your reaction, Dave, as that moment unfolded 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: yesterday during the game. 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: Love in the pocket steps up floats one down the 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: west sideline. That ball is knocked a weigh by Riley 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: Moss at the last minute. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: Incompete and a penalty flag thrown. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: This is going to be pass interference against Riley Moss. 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: Matthew Golden, the rookie wide receiver, was the intended receiver run. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: I just played for the start of the foul and 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: had a tough down and I got to tell you. 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: I didn't tell you that. Yeah, that's right down on 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: the nearest sideline, right in front of us. I didn't 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 4: see it either. 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Moss, with really good coverage, turned around, got his hand up, 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: knocked that down on. 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: That that That is absolutely terrible. That's terrible. I mean 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 4: he's got he's got him by the arm. But let 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 4: me take that back. 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: It's not terrible, but that's. 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 4: That's a call that normally in the. 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: NFL you're gonna let go unless you grab him and 32 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: pull him. He did have his hand on his right 33 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: fore arm first down Green Bay at the Denver forty. 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: Here's Sean Payton's thoughts on that DPI. 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: I can't say the word, but it begins with an 36 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: A relative to that call. It just holy count and 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 5: it's and it's it's something that's frustrating, I'm sure for him. 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: But he'll keep competing. 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: He's tough. 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: Came back with a big interception, you know, the one 41 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: in New York was was brutal. But he'll keep he'll 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: keep competing. We've got to it better in it overall, 43 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 5: at seeing and being consistent officiating those calls. 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: All right, Dave. And by the way, I was trying 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: to figure out what the hell word started. 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 6: With an A. Awful, that's what that's. Well, it was awful, 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 6: that's the A, and ends with the hole. That's that's 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 6: I mean, that's the word. I'm inserting what I think 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 6: he's saying. 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: But you wouldn't say that call was a and the 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: word ending with whole, would you. 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't, But I mean I don't think think 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: he would either. I think he was talking about awful. 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: It was awful. 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Well, you want to be careful you don't get fined 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: or Tony Romo also hated the call on the TV copy. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: As I was watching today, I did too. 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: Like I said, I mean, the officials have a very 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: tough job, right, So I'm not a guy that's going 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: to just sit there and crack every single time of thrown. 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: You're gonna hammer the official. 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: But on that call, again, as I said, normally, in 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: the NFL, and even back when I played, there's so 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: much hand jostling going on, and unless that defensive back 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: literally grabs you and pulls and impede you from pulling 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: away from him in that regard, normally you just don't 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: make that call. 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: Given what I saw on the. 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: Replat see I have a difference of opinion on that 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 6: particular play, and I know like I think it was 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 6: a side judge called incomplete. 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: It was a bad judge through the flag. 73 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 6: That's right, and it was if you go back and 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 6: watch it, I'm thinking the side judge could actually see 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 6: because where both of the players were, so he didn't 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 6: have an idea perspective on it. Because when you and official, 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: space is your friend because it allows you to see 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 6: so many different things. And if you go back and 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 6: watch that play, it looked like Riley was in man 80 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 6: coverage and has two issues with speed releases off the 81 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 6: line and making plays down the field right, so he 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 6: didn't get anything on the receiver at all. 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: The receiver had a free release. 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: So because he had a free release, Riley realized he 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 6: has two steps on me, So now I have to 86 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 6: try to get back in phase with him, and what 87 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 6: that means is get back even with him. So he 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 6: took his left hand and grabbed the receivers right on. 89 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 6: And I know most people when they're looking at the play, 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 6: they thinking about the ending of the play where he 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 6: turned and he batted the ball away or from an 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 6: official standpoint, he's looking at what took place at the 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 6: beginning of the play. 94 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: And what I did was. 95 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 6: I reached out to a couple of officials that I know 96 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 6: and I said, look at this video. 97 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: Am I wrong? And people thought that I had something 98 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: against Riley? 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: I don't, right, and I'm just looking at it from 100 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 6: an official standpoint. How they would have called it, and 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 6: they would have called hey, prior to the ball being battered, 102 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: way number twenty one reached and grabbed wide receiver a right, 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 6: impeding his progress up field. This is how they will 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 6: look at it. And you could say it's ticky tacky, 105 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 6: it's subjective, but that's how the bat judge will look 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 6: at it because he had a better line of sign. 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: Well two things though, One that's not what he called right. 108 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: He didn't throw the flag until after the ball had 109 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: hit the ground and the play was done, so he 110 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: didn't that. 111 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: Back judge didn't make that call. 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, that's not his call to make Athlona scrimmage. 113 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: Although I agree with you in terms of not getting 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: hands on Matthew Golden, right, because then you're already gonna 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: catch up like almost panic. You better run sort of mindset. 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying, is the receiver you accurately described 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: what Riley did reaching out with put his hand on 118 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: the right forearm of Matthew Golden. But I would say 119 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: normally there was not enough of Joscelyn or sort of 120 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: redirecting Golden in a way that pulled him off astride 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: or prevented him from continuing to run. 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 4: So that's why. 123 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: But I also think nick' wright, in terms of the 124 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: official on the sideline, might not have been able to 125 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: see that contact with the hands where the back judge did. 126 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: But the back judge didn't call it on what he 127 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: saw initially when the ball was snapped. 128 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: He called it on what he saw as that play ended. 129 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 6: It's because I'm thinking from his standpoint the back judge, 130 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 6: I'm not him. I'm just trying to look at the 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 6: play where I think that he might have seen it 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 6: because he saw the initial grab and maybe he was 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: waiting to see if Rolly. 134 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: Would just kind of let go. 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 6: But as you can see, Rolly's hand was there for 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 6: a minute as he turned to look back for the ball, 137 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 6: and I'm thinking that's probably why I don't know this. 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 6: Maybe at the end of the play, that's when he 139 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: threw it instead of throwing it when he originally grabbed him. 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 6: I don't know this, but that's that's what I'm kind 141 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 6: of thinking. He's probably trying to process the play in 142 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 6: that bay. 143 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: I think Sean is right, although I think it's impossible 144 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: or almost impossible that you would love to see more 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: consistency in terms of what actually officials view as a 146 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: very subjective call, which that's what past interference is, right. 147 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: I also think that Riley Moss has earned the reputations 148 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: prior in a dubious way of being a handsy corner 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: that has had a number of PI calls, and officials 150 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: get charts and review film and they know exactly what 151 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: the previous handful of games looked like and what was 152 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: called and who it was called on and it you know, 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: officials are human. 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: It's human nature. 155 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 6: And here's the other thing that I also learned too, 156 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 6: it's a reputation. Well, yes, price, you have a resume. 157 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 6: So if I'm playing against a guy like Riley, I'm 158 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 6: going to tell if I'm a wide receiver, alert their officials. 159 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 6: Hey listen, this guy's kind of grabby, and you want 160 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 6: to pay attention because I know the rest look at. 161 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: Two points of contact. 162 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 6: If you and man coverage, they're looking at the line 163 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 6: of scrimmage because they know you're a man. 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: They want to know if you grab with his hands 165 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: to the face. 166 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 6: The other part of it is when the route is upfield, 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 6: they're looking at the top of the route to see 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 6: if once the receiver starts to break back to the 169 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 6: ball or create separation, if the dB is actually grabbing. 170 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 6: And I think this should happen. I know every single 171 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 6: year they have officials and for training camp, right, and 172 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 6: that helps their officials get themselves out of the preseason mode. 173 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: But breaking down to. 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 6: The players, especially the guys in the secondary, what is 175 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 6: defined as DPI and what's defined as OPI because it's 176 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 6: not exactly what you think it is, right because you think, 177 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 6: if I have my hand on you as a wide receiver, 178 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 6: well that is OPI. No, it's ideas that once I 179 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 6: extend my elbow out and I now move your body 180 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 6: to create that separation, that's OPI. But I can have 181 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: my hand resting on you. 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, So that's where on that play specifically, and then 183 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: we'll we'll kind of move on. But I thought that 184 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: play specifically was pretty typical for what you see in 185 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: most covered situations. And that's where I just disagree with you. 186 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: That's we have a page full of texts. That's the word. 187 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: So not awful and not a whatever you are saying. 188 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: Listen, I think most people, not everybody, but even people 189 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: that officiate games, when you look at that and have 190 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: a chance to look at it from different views and 191 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: slow it down more times than not. I'm just saying 192 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: in a NFL game, that is not going to be 193 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: a PI. 194 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: Exactly, and so that's more than anything. 195 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Like to your point you're saying, well, by letter of 196 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: the law, I think you're arguing sort of a letter 197 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: of the law kind of thing. 198 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: And that's where Dave even live. 199 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: You're like, well, okay, not terrible, because I can see 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: where they would say, well, one hand is on the 201 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: other end, and then you can do that to it. 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: But also we just see that so often. And he 203 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: did turn and look for the ball and had he 204 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: had actually a couple of really nice PBUs during the 205 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: course of the game, and then of course he all 206 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: said the interception, which was I mean, I talk about 207 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: like sort of a redemption arc moment to have Riley 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: Moskin in an interception considering what this season has been, and 209 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't think he's even had a bad season. But 210 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: we've talked about him. He's has more pass interferences called 211 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: against him than any other cornerback in the entire league. 212 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: He's got more targets than any other cornerback in the 213 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: entire league. And to be able to come up with 214 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: that interception at that moment, was was so for flipping sweets? 215 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: Yes, those the ball middle of the field, the ball 216 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: behind a defender. 217 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: And intercepted, intercepted by Riley Moss. 218 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: Lost, it's up and he's loose, but they're gonna say 219 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: he's down. Riley Moss with his first interception of this season, 220 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: second of his career in the Broncos habit on their 221 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: forty eight yard line. They're down in the north end zone. 222 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Fellows, celebrate a bit. 223 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: Why not? 224 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: You gotta be smiling ear to ear on that one. Well, 225 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: what I mean again, big moment after big moment. Let 226 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: me ask you this on I guess it's slightly not 227 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: as positive. What did you think about so the first 228 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: half the Green Bay Packers ability to move the ball 229 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: as easily as they were. 230 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: I think they look like exactly what they had looked 231 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: like for most of the season, and that is one 232 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: of the better offensive teams in football. You've got a 233 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: monster as a running back and Josh Jacobs. You've got 234 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: really creative played design with Matt Lafleur. You've got a good, 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: really good quarterback in Jordan Love. And I think you know, 236 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: everybody says, well, they don't have a number one receiver, Well, 237 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: then they've got two or three, like or B plus receivers. 238 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: They've got, I mean, Romeo, Dobbs and Watson. 239 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: They've got good, good speed and good receivers. And I 240 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: thought I didn't think Denver was able to generate as 241 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: much pressure on Love. I thought they let him get 242 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: very comfortable in the pocket, just kind of dancing around 243 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: and patting the ball. 244 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 4: A couple of times. 245 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: And then you look in the second half, you know 246 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: he's moving around and like as soon as I mean 247 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: almost as soon as he gets a snap, it's like, oh, 248 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: let me get out of here. There was immense pressure 249 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: on Jordan Love in the second half. 250 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 6: I don't know what Vance Joseph said or anyone said 251 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 6: at halftime, but that was true because if I'm not mistaken, 252 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 6: the first sack of Jordan Love took place in the 253 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 6: third quarter, and it was really different like in the 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: first half, where he was able to move in the 255 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: pocket and he had enough confidence to just kind of 256 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 6: standing in there with guys in his face. 257 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: It was a little different. 258 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 6: They changed some things up, they gave them some different 259 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 6: looks and things were not the same. Obviously, you get 260 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 6: the injury to Christian Watson that changed a lot as. 261 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: Far as what they wanted to do offensively. 262 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 6: But that's kind of what we've seen it from this 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 6: defense all season long. 264 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: Like you saw a week ago against the. 265 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 6: Raiders, Raiders moved the ball down and open and drive somebody. 266 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 6: That hadn't happened to the Broncos all season long, and 267 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 6: then what happened, They hunkered down. It just seems as though, 268 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 6: and I've been there before, playing defense, you're trying to 269 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 6: sell the way into the game, the defensive coordinators trying 270 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 6: to get a feel for the play calling from the 271 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: offensive coordinator. 272 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: Once you figure out. 273 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 6: What they're doing, now is everyone can dial in and 274 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 6: now we can turn the screws and do some of 275 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 6: the certain things that made this defense one of the 276 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: top defenses in the league and the one thing that 277 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 6: for me, guys, I've been most impressed with about this 278 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 6: defense is that you're getting contributions from every single player 279 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 6: on the field. 280 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: It's not just one or two guys. 281 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 6: It's multiple guys every week that you're getting participation from. 282 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: Here was Sean Payton. 283 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: He was asked today about the defensive performance and specifically 284 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: what happened in the second half. 285 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: Here's what he said. 286 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: You know, our third down numbers that out are red 287 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 5: zone numbers even at halftime. You know, I get the 288 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: question that I got to answer from the production crew 289 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: and it's all about the yards, and I'm saying, look, 290 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 5: are we paying attention to the field goals? We thought 291 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: that would be important. They're a real good red zone team. 292 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 5: I felt like in the second half, our front began 293 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: to on both sides of the ball control the line 294 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 5: of skirmish. 295 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: And that was something you brought up in the first hour, Dave. 296 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 297 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: I think you know, I hadn't really talked about the 298 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: Broncos offensive line, but I mean from a defensive standpoint, 299 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: they the Broncos box the front I thought clearly won 300 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: the battle between them and the Packers in the second half. 301 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the pressure on Jordan Love was significant. Came 302 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: from inside as much as outside. 303 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it just was. 304 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean it never stopped, it never wavered, and he 305 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: was uncomfortable for most of the second half. And conversely, 306 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, Bonnicks wasn't sacked. And you look, you know, 307 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: look at the first half. I mean the Packers, they 308 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: were active upfront, those two edge guys with Micah Parsons 309 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: was lined up all over the pall over the place. 310 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: He is a monster. 311 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I think Seawn's right, especially in 312 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: the second half. 313 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: And you talk about the Green Bay Packers, he mentioned 314 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the third down efficiency they over the game. They were 315 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: six to thirteen. This is the number one third down 316 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: conversion team in the league, over fifty percent conversion and 317 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: you held him under that. And then of course they're 318 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: also amazing in the red zone. We talked about it 319 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: in the pregame. Dave said, best third down offense, second 320 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: best red zone and you went one for four in 321 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: the red zone defensively, and that was that was kind 322 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: of a point that he made. There is an acknowledgement 323 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way to move the ball. 324 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: It's what we do when they get down there. 325 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: What did you think very quickly before we hit the break, 326 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: what'd you think about the decision to decline the holding 327 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: penalty down there? And Josh Jacobs made a hell of 328 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: a play, I wondered, Yeah, yeah, it would it would have. 329 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: Been second twenty four, second goal from the twenty four 330 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: as opposed to third and goal from the fourteen. Correct, 331 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I wondered, But Jacobs made a 332 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: hell of a play. Drake Greenlaw's right there. I mean, 333 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what else you can ask him ask 334 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: him to do. 335 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Tony Romo said something interesting on the TV copy today. 336 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: He said he understands it because when they're third and fourteen, 337 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: you know what they're doing. He's like, a second and 338 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty four, there's still a little bit of a okay, 339 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: what do we you know, what's the first play setting 340 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: up to the second play? And I kind of understand 341 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: the third and fourteen. It's go third and goal from 342 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: the fourteen. You're going to the you're going to the 343 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: end zone, but you're going to the end zone either way. 344 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know. You got kind of burned by it, 345 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: But I wondered that after the game. 346 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 6: It was a sensational throw by love talk about ball. 347 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: Placement and greenlaw. 348 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 6: There was nothing you can really do about it, because 349 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 6: I was I was telling some fans. Once he goes 350 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 6: back to the sideline, there's nothing a coach can say 351 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 6: to him, right because he was right there. 352 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: Even did the strip move. 353 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 6: And I mean, yeah, he's waving, he's trying to do everything, 354 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 6: But that was strong hands by Josh Jacobs to maintain 355 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 6: the catch, keep both feet in and then go to 356 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 6: the ground, clutch it to your left breastplate and not 357 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 6: let the ball go. Hell of a play. Hell of 358 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: a play, and there's nothing you can do about it. 359 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: Don't see a lot of running backs that could do 360 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: it that way, to be honest. And you even I 361 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: think you commented about that saying that's that's a wide 362 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: receiver move right there, but a running back ended up 363 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: doing it. 364 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, wide receiver catch. 365 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: So I guess yeah, for Shawn, you take a look 366 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: at that, you're high like, yeah, all right, well, well. 367 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: The cat to look to look ahead. 368 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 6: Jacksonville's Travis atn He led the team in. 369 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: Three touchdowns, yes, as a receiver. 370 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 6: As a running back, and what group is given the 371 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 6: Broncos defense the most trouble running backs out of the backfield. 372 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: Now, Baseiel Touton by the way out of this game. 373 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: That's right. So he's out until the postseason for Jacksonville. 374 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: That's a bonus. With the Broncos. 375 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: That's a big one because you're talking about running back 376 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: catching out of the backfield. Yes, he's been very good 377 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: at that this year. But you're right, Travis et In 378 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: can do that too. 379 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 4: That's one of those matchups. Man, I'm gonna be watching 380 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: on Sunday. 381 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. It's all fun. It's all fun 382 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: right now. 383 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 4: Hey, you can get a chance to talk about it too. 384 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: That's right. 385 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: And we'll see if you pick the Jacksonville Jaguars. I 386 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: know Ben's gonna pick. 387 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 4: The Jaguars, Okay, really really quickly with this Ben. 388 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: Ben is all over the Jaguars this weekend. 389 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 6: Ben is trying to play both sides of defense, saying, 390 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: with this defense that he has, well, I'm picking this, 391 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: making this ridiculous prediction, but I'm still picking against the 392 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 6: Broncos because I'm picking the Broncos to win, so either way, 393 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 6: in his mind, he wins, which is ridiculous within itself. 394 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 6: Have you spoken to him about this ridiculous thing that 395 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 6: he's doing. 396 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I've called him out multiple times. He keeps saying, that's 397 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: just the bits. I'm just trying to, you know, keep 398 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: the streak alive. I'm picking against him, though he genuinely 399 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: thought the Packers were gonna win yesterday. Like you, as 400 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: we typically do on Mondays, at five point thirty, here 401 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: was Broncos quarterback bon Nix with the voice of Broncos 402 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Dave Logan. 403 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: After the game, we head. 404 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: Right back down talk with the starting quarterback of the 405 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: Roncos bon Nicks. 406 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: Boat's Dave Logan. 407 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: Congratulations, you're twenty three at thirty four today for three 408 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: hundred and two yards and four touchdowns, and you know 409 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: what I say, for the fumble on the first drive, 410 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: I thought you guys really found a lot of rhythm 411 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: a lot of times you were on the field today. 412 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, we did. 413 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 8: We had a I think a couple of three and 414 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 8: outs that we got to change, but other than that, 415 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 8: I thought we did a really good job of moving 416 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 8: the football consistently. We ran it, we threw it, We 417 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 8: kept him up bolence. We even got a little bit 418 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 8: backed up. We had some second longs that we were 419 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 8: able to overcome, which is great to see. 420 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 7: But overall, I thought it was a good performance. Our 421 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 7: live plate outstanding. 422 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 8: They kept me up right all night, and it's just 423 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 8: a really solid outing skill players O line. Thought we 424 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 8: all did a great job. 425 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm going to take you back. You're 426 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: down nine. 427 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: After the Packers have the first possession of the third 428 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: quarter and they go seventy one yards and I think 429 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: it was three plays and twenty three to fourteen. I 430 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: thought the next drive was so critical. I mean, you 431 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 3: guys go seventy one yards, Cortland catches a fourteen yard 432 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: touchdown pass. But it really I mean it got your 433 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: right back in the game, certainly from a score wise, 434 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: but also I thought emotionally as well. 435 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a huge drive cut back to one 436 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 7: score and you know, really actually in an explosive way. 437 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 8: I thought all of our drives consisted of some explosive 438 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 8: play components and that was good. 439 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 7: It wasn't like you were just. 440 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 8: Getting you know, first round, second out, third down and 441 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 8: just going on slow drives. I thought we were able 442 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 8: to hit some big passes and all of our guys. 443 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 7: Just played really solid. We thought we were sharp. We 444 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 7: were good in out of the huddle. We ran great routes, 445 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 7: caught the football. 446 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 8: And you know, made my job pretty easy. 447 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, last last thought, the touchdown pass to Franklin. 448 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: You fitted that thing in he went in motion that 449 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: he ran. I don't know if it was a. 450 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: Dig or a whatever, what do you call the route, 451 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: but you fitted it in over the top of the 452 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 3: second sort of line defender. When when you let that 453 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 3: thing go, did you think it was a touchdown? 454 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 7: I had a good feeling. I think the route was awesome. 455 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 8: He stepped on the toes, you know, kind of ran 456 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: in there in the middle of the field behind the 457 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 8: second level. Marvin did a great job of clearing it 458 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 8: out for him. They played a little bit of Embert. 459 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 9: Two, which meant the corner had the half of the 460 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 9: field and kind of took Marvin and then there was 461 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 9: a good lane there and I knew if I just 462 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 9: flew it over the second line defender, gave Troy a 463 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 9: chance he could go up and make a play. 464 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 7: And sure enough, he just went up, made a great catch, 465 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 7: you know, call it, plucked it out of the. 466 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 8: Air, you know, tight turn, got the end zone and 467 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 8: he was you know, that was a really really sweet 468 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 8: play by him. 469 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: Yep, no doubt about it. Both. Congratulations, we'll see you 470 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: this week. 471 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 7: Thank you very much. 472 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: You bet bo Nick's. 473 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: Four touchdown passes in the game today and on the season, 474 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: now Nicks with twenty three touchdown passes against nine interceptions, 475 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: as bon Nix continues to put up very very good numbers. 476 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: And you find the full interviews all of our postgame 477 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: interviews on demand at Kwacolorado dot com. He had quite 478 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: a few thros. Dave that he had some great anticipation. 479 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: I liked when you sort of called out the Courtland 480 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Sutton touchdown, like right before You're like, hey, we got 481 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: one on one covered. 482 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: Heare at the bottom, and sure enough, he's like and. 483 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Then you Eve said, He's like, well if I saw 484 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: it up here at the booth, I guarantee Bodick saw 485 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: it down there. 486 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the puzzling thing. And Nick Nick would again, oh 487 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: this as well. I think when when Lil Jordan Humphrey 488 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: went in motion from slot right to like a trip's left, 489 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: look and I look down at Courtland and I see 490 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: where the safety is, and the safety I mean if 491 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: you're gonna double, if you're gonna double Courtland, which a 492 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: lot of times down in that part of the field 493 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: they do, that safety has got to be cheated over 494 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: a little bit more. But then I looked at the 495 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: leverage of the corner, and the leverage of the corner 496 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: is outside, which means you're playing one free, which means 497 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: you absolutely positively cannot give an outside release because you 498 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 3: have to funnel that receiver with outside leverage. 499 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: You got to cover him, but you got you. 500 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: Know, you've got a guy in the middle of the 501 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: field that when he if you want to stay in 502 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 3: the outside hip, but he runs like. 503 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: A basic route that that safety is going to drive 504 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 4: that route. If you let him get outside, you have 505 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: no help. 506 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: And I could not believe how easily Courtland made a nice, 507 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: a nice relief. 508 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: But I think it was Nixon the corner. 509 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it was horrible technique and you saw the results. 510 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. 511 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 6: It was bad technique. And that's the first thing that 512 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 6: I saw, because I was like, well, is he trying 513 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 6: to quick jamming? And what I mean by that is 514 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 6: you trying to jump the receiver at the same time 515 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 6: the ball is snap, hoping that he's looking at the 516 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 6: ball instead of you. But the corner made a terrible 517 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 6: mistake because when he stabbed him, right, and what I 518 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 6: mean by stab he went to punch him. He kind 519 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 6: of opened up the gate and allow Courtland a free 520 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 6: reign up the field, and he locked his hip at 521 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: the same time. So if you're going to quick jam, 522 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 6: you have to use both through your hands to make 523 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 6: sure you get both your hands on the shoulder on 524 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 6: the either the outside shoulder or the breastplate of the 525 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: wide receiver. 526 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: But if you're playing one free, you cannot jam with 527 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: your inside shoulder right period. 528 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 6: Because you have your help is deep inside. So you say, oh, 529 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 6: just throw the faintball, and that's what Bo did. 530 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 2: That's exactly what he did, all right. 531 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: So interesting moment here on Monday night. Cow down, Ryan Clark. 532 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: Your guy, whoa don't do that? Wait a minute. 533 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 6: Ray was just saying when I when I called out, 534 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 6: Clark was saying, you know, he is turned over, low leave, 535 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 6: He's doing a better job than he was doing before. 536 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, here's money. Here. 537 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: Here's what he said. 538 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: He is he is he blaming Vo Knicks for Michael 539 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: Parsons torn acl. 540 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 10: But Michael Parsons is hurt because of bow Knicks, and 541 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 10: I'm not saying it's one of those things that's bo 542 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 10: Nix's fault. But the violence in which Michael Parsons had 543 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 10: to chase bow Knicks the entire second half was extremely evident. 544 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 10: Whether it was the touchdown to Bandy, to throw to 545 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 10: Troy Franklin, getting outside of the pocket and finding little 546 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 10: Jordan Humphrey, you could see that Michael Parsons was the 547 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 10: one person in pursuit of bo Nicks the entire day, 548 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 10: and on the injury and on the play he was hurt. 549 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 10: Bo Nicks attempted to get outside, he found Mimes and 550 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 10: you could see Micah redirect in order to keep him 551 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 10: in the pocket. That was part of what he'd seen 552 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 10: the entire night and the way bo Nicks was able 553 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 10: to attack that defense bo Knicks was amazing last night. 554 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 10: And it's sad you lose a great player like Michael Parsons, 555 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 10: but it was because of the effort he. 556 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: Needed to give in order to get to different. 557 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so wait, what is that, Dave? 558 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: You want to you want to make some sense of 559 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: that word, Salad. 560 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: I think I think what Ryan was trying to say is, uh, 561 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 3: they had a hard time keeping. 562 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: Bo Nicks in the pocket. And because the Bonnicks. 563 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: And his athletic ability that Micah had to redirect at 564 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: full speed, the angle that he was going to take. 565 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: All of that, I agree with. Maybe he wants to 566 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 4: rethink his you know how. 567 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 3: He started his soliloquy about how Michael Parsons are why 568 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: he was injured because he said Michael Parson was injured 569 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: because of bon Nicks. 570 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: That's exactly what he said, you know, so right off 571 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: the bat. 572 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: But I think his point, if you listen to it, 573 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: is probably accurate because they did. 574 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: Have a hard time chasing down bow Well. 575 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 6: He said that wasn't what he was saying, but that's 576 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 6: kind of what he said to Hi. You know, well, 577 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 6: maybe he is, and that would be not advised to 578 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 6: do that on live television. But we all held accountable 579 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 6: by based on what we do and what we say. 580 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: So chasing around bow Knicks that effectively, yes, tore Michael Parsons. 581 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: Al it was. 582 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: Bow Nix's fault. 583 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: He did it, but he was so good, yes, and 584 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: what a game for bon Knicks, so elusive. 585 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: That's because Michael Parsons had to work so hard, and. 586 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 6: That's Bo's fault. Because Parsons had to work so hard 587 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 6: to track him down that it caused him a season 588 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 6: ending injury. And that's bow. 589 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: Fault this industry. 590 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: Dave, I've never heard anything as well. 591 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 6: I do work with Ben, so uh ridiculous things before. 592 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: So Ela you I've heard some ridiculous n right there. 593 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 6: Oh oh, hey, man, I didn't know you was said 594 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 6: that I should have lived at the clock. 595 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: Well, hey, the ridiculousness continued. 596 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: That's right, that's coming up at the top of the 597 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: hour speaking of Ben in ridiculousness. 598 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: But this is not ridiculous. 599 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: We need you, guys, thank a veteran, active military member 600 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: or first responder with twenty five hundred dollars through February first. 601 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Submit your nomination name and they're deserving reason for twenty 602 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars at kwaclorado dot com slash contest. It's 603 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: a Heroes thank you presented by Common Spirit Health and 604 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: fix It twenty four seven. 605 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: So the Brandon Jones thing, we talked about that. 606 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: A bit earlier, placed on IR. What's the plan there 607 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: as far as you understand it, Next man up. 608 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: PJ. 609 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 11: Lock would be the next man up and we'll see 610 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 11: what we got there. And uh, you know, Devon key 611 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 11: behind him and Jail Skinner is the tertiary option right now. 612 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: From what I understand, I. 613 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 11: Don't think that are out there actively looking to bring 614 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 11: in a safety. I got a lot of questions about 615 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 11: Justin Simmons. I don't think that had happened anyway, but 616 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 11: he has it hits right now. I think it's PJ 617 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 11: Lock until either it can't be or he is him. 618 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense. He's been here the entire season. 619 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: You know one story we didn't get to from yesterday, 620 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. It is that debut because he obviously played 621 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: for the Colts before, but debut this season. 622 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: I thought he played. 623 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: I guess he thought he played about as well as 624 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: I thought he could play at forty four years old, 625 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: being out of the league for five years. 626 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: Dave, what did you did you have a chance to 627 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: watch any highlights of Philip Rivers? 628 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: I saw the highlights. 629 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I'd said last week that I expect him 630 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: to play pretty well, and he gave his team a 631 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: chance to win in a place that not a lot 632 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: of teams win. 633 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 11: Let a game winning drive of forty five seconds left. 634 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 11: Just Sam Dalgard let a game winning drive with eight 635 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 11: eighteen seconds left. 636 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: It shows you, really, it shows you the dearth of 637 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: excellent quarterback play. If if I mean Philip Rivers was 638 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: a great player in this league for a long time, 639 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: but he's been out of football for five years. He's 640 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: forty four years of age, and to bring him back 641 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: and he gets one week of. 642 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: Practice and he goes out and plays. 643 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: Like that against one of the better defensive teams we 644 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: have in the game. 645 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 6: I think for me, as a guy that played against 646 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: Philip Rivers, I was happy to just see him out there, 647 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 6: right because for me it was one for our group, 648 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: one for our era, and just going out there knowing 649 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 6: the game was sixteen to eighteen, you had an opportunity 650 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 6: to win the ballgame as a forty four year quarterback 651 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 6: that just came off the sofa. 652 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that had the lead there. 653 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 11: Like I said, they had a lead of forty seven 654 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 11: seconds left and Sam Darl came back. 655 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: I think my. 656 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 11: Favorite moment was Philip doesn't notoriously doesn't wear cleats, and 657 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 11: so you saw him with the turf shoes and the 658 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 11: logo is slick and he was back there Win Millen 659 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 11: trying to drop. 660 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: Back on the logo. Maybe you can make a comeback day. 661 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: I was going to say the Broncos, you know, had 662 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: a safety going IR today. 663 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: Hey listen, I got a couple of pays for you. 664 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 11: That's a punt return and kick return health the largest 665 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 11: kick return and see you history. 666 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: George Paynton. Give me a call the largest punt returner. 667 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: I know that, all right. 668 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: Well, this is a lot of fun, Nick, great job. 669 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate Appreciate you as well. Ben have fun with BCT. 670 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: Grant you're the man. Appreciate you. We'll be back to 671 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: March three o'clock with Garrett Bowles BCT next