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Speaker 2: Now yesterday an interesting announcement where Donald Trump says the
Speaker 2: US will immediately start testing nuclear weapons. Now I agree
Speaker 2: with his premise that if other countries testing their nuclear weapons,
Speaker 2: then we should react to that and test our nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: But here's where he conflated just a little bit. First
Speaker 2: of all, we've been talking about the last major agreement
Speaker 2: was back when H. George HW Bush signed the Comprehensive
Speaker 2: Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in nineteen ninety six. The Senate
Speaker 2: refused to ratify it, and all treat all treaties must
Speaker 2: be ratified by the Senate.
Speaker 1: We are not part of it. However, we've lived up
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: All the terms we are following, and what it means
Speaker 2: is no nuclear testing. There are a couple times. There
Speaker 2: are a couple of ways of testing nuclear weapons. One
Speaker 2: is underground, which they've been doing since nineteen sixty when
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: In grade school.
Speaker 2: There were two major stories that I remember when JFK
Speaker 2: was president, certainly when he was assassinated, but during the
Speaker 2: course the first three years, and I was a young guy,
Speaker 2: but I still remember this. One was Alaska and Hawaii
Speaker 2: being incorporated in the United States as states. That was
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, by the way, it hasn't been that long ago.
Speaker 2: And number two the Test Ban Treaty that was signed
Speaker 2: with Russia, and the test Ban Treaty said there are
Speaker 2: no more atmospheric nuclear tests. That before that, starting from
Speaker 2: World War Two right up to nineteen sixty, the testing
Speaker 2: would be in the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: They would throw missiles up and.
Speaker 2: Explode nuclear weapons in the sky, and everybody realized, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, that's maybe that's not such a good idea,
Speaker 2: so they moved it to underground, where we tested probably
Speaker 2: a thousand different tests the United States did and it
Speaker 2: was underground in Nevada, which is why you don't want
Speaker 2: to be a spilunker because when you are you don't
Speaker 2: actually need those lights.
Speaker 1: You glow yourself.
Speaker 2: And so the testing went underground and nobody has since
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, we have not exploded a test. We
Speaker 2: have not exploded a weapon underground. The only people that
Speaker 2: have NUCA is North Korea. They have because they don't
Speaker 2: agree to anything, and so do they still test? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they actually do. But let me tell you how it's done.
Speaker 2: They do it with computer modeling. That's the testing that's
Speaker 2: being done. And I had a friend of mine that
Speaker 2: worked up at Lawrence Livermore Lab up in northern California
Speaker 2: and they developed nuclear devices. They you know, technology just
Speaker 2: gets better and better across the board, so as they're
Speaker 2: new TVs and new new nuclear weapons, and the testing
Speaker 2: was always done on a computer model and that's the
Speaker 2: way it works. Well, why is Trump now saying that
Speaker 2: we are going to start testing, Well, because China and
Speaker 2: Russia are going to start testing.
Speaker 1: Particularly Russia. But it's not testing nuclear weapons that Russia
Speaker 1: is doing.
Speaker 2: It's delivery systems is what they're testing how to get
Speaker 2: the nuclears weapons to a given target.
Speaker 1: That's the testing.
Speaker 2: And so when President Trump says they are testing nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons and we are going to engage in testing, they're
Speaker 2: not what he's What he should be saying is following.
Speaker 2: What's actually happening is Russia is testing delivery systems. Therefore
Speaker 2: we should test delivery systems. And Russia talks about it's
Speaker 2: hyper missile and a torpedo so that moves so quickly
Speaker 2: that it's you can't defend against it. Now on Air
Speaker 2: Force One on the way back from South Korea, he
Speaker 2: did say that the process will begin immediately. We don't
Speaker 2: know what that means. And because of other countries testing programs. Again,
Speaker 2: what they're testing is delivery systems, not the weapons themselves.
Speaker 2: I've instructed the Department of War to start testing are
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons on equal basis and that will happen right now.
Speaker 2: And then a reporter asked him is the world entering
Speaker 2: a more risky environment when it comes to these nuclear issues,
Speaker 2: and he said no, I don't think so. I think
Speaker 2: we pretty well have it locked up. But I see
Speaker 2: them testing, and again he leaves out, I see them
Speaker 2: testing delivery systems, not the nuclear weapons themselves. And I say, well,
Speaker 2: they're going to test. I guess we have to test.
Speaker 2: He'd like to see a de nuclearization program, and that
Speaker 2: would be a tremendous thing. That's true, And he said
Speaker 2: it's something we're actually talking to Russia about. I don't
Speaker 2: know what they're talking to Rush about, because Putin keeps
Speaker 2: on testing these delivery systems and he is. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, Russia has created a couple of ways
Speaker 2: of delivering nuclear weapons that I don't think we've come up,
Speaker 2: we've come close to.
Speaker 1: And so you know what's going to happen. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Is Trump going to go forward and start the nuclear
Speaker 2: tests in Nevada? And the politics of that. You have
Speaker 2: Nevadians or Nevado's whatever, they all they call people citizens
Speaker 2: of Nevada, residents of Nevada's, they're not going to be
Speaker 2: happy about it. They're internationally people aren't going to other
Speaker 2: countries aren't going to be happy about it. And there
Speaker 2: are a lot of countries that are not big fans
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump to begin with. But can you imagine
Speaker 2: starting another nuclear war, not actual war, but a nuclear
Speaker 2: testing war. I mean, we don't need it, and we
Speaker 2: have the technology. From what I understand, we have the
Speaker 2: technology to do all the testing we want by way
Speaker 2: of this computer modeling. So I don't get it now
Speaker 2: the basic premise, I agree. If the other countries, particularly
Speaker 2: Russia and China, that's what we're talking about. North Korea
Speaker 2: is going to test itself to obolivion and there's nothing
Speaker 2: anybody can do about that. And they have maybe a
Speaker 2: couple hundred weapons. China, well, Russia and the United States
Speaker 2: have about the same over five thousand of these nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: Are you ready for this one? You know what they
Speaker 2: used to have with the United States and Russia had.
Speaker 2: The United States had thirty thousand of them at one
Speaker 2: point and Russia is in the twenty thousands. How's that
Speaker 2: for the ability to blow up this earth into little
Speaker 2: tiny pieces? Now it's down because we've done all kinds
Speaker 2: of treaties reducing the very weapons down to about five
Speaker 2: thousand each. United States a little bit ahead by a
Speaker 2: couple of hundred, and when you talk about North Korea,
Speaker 2: it's way down. So who are the major countries that
Speaker 2: have them? While North Korea does Unfortunately, Pakistan India developed
Speaker 2: their own Israel has had one for years and years,
Speaker 2: although they deny it, they won't comment on it. And
Speaker 2: there's a wonderful story about Israel and one of the
Speaker 2: Israeli guys who worked at Demona, which is the plant
Speaker 2: where they make it, stealing secrets and actually giving them
Speaker 2: the United States and we had them in jail for
Speaker 2: twenty years. That's another story we want to do at
Speaker 2: some point because that's a fun one. So the bottom
Speaker 2: line is, are we really going to start testing when
Speaker 2: the other countries are not testing except their delivery systems?
Speaker 2: Who the hell knows? No idea. Okay, now we're going
Speaker 2: to have fun escape monkeys. There was that story about
Speaker 2: the escape monkeys. There was that truck in Mississis that
Speaker 2: overturned and had it was a trunk. It was a
Speaker 2: truck full of Recis monkeys on the way to be tested.
Speaker 1: And where were they going.
Speaker 2: Well, they were actually going to a movie set where
Speaker 2: they were filming the next film of Night at the Museum.
Speaker 2: That's actually not true because those are Cappachin monkeys, not
Speaker 2: Reciss monkeys. But I had to go there because it's
Speaker 2: a nice visual. In the meantime, there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: controversy about the monkeys themselves. Originally the truck driver said
Speaker 2: that they were infected with herpes and hepatitis because of
Speaker 2: the testing is what they do. And then we find
Speaker 2: out that's not true, and one monkey was had escaped,
Speaker 2: and it turns out there are three monkeys and a
Speaker 2: number of monkeys were quote destroyed. That's the term they
Speaker 2: use after they got loose. You ever noticed when anybody
Speaker 2: is executed that what they should do is we have
Speaker 2: destroyed the inmate, because that basically works. Okay, So the
Speaker 2: controversy is they were coming from the National The school
Speaker 2: said that it's National Biological Research Center. It provides primates
Speaker 2: monkeys to other research organizations to quote advance science, and
Speaker 2: the monkeys were in fact not in fact that Okay,
Speaker 2: that's the news story. And then I go thinking about
Speaker 2: the animal rights people who have a real problem with
Speaker 2: animals being used for testing. They've successful, they've been successful,
Speaker 2: and for example, rabbit testing for makeup products no longer
Speaker 2: rabbit eyes are being used to hurt the animals. But
Speaker 2: when it comes to diseases, that's a very different thing.
Speaker 2: And so there was a woman just right next to
Speaker 2: this story who has just found guilty of well, removing
Speaker 2: four chickens from a processing plant. Four chickens, and she
Speaker 2: did it and said she was removing them from cruelty.
Speaker 1: She didn't deny taking them.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, her organization the direct Action everywhere DX filmed.
Speaker 1: It, they didn't un it and released it.
Speaker 2: She was there, and she was there to prove that
Speaker 2: animals were destroyed cruelly. And so she breaks into this
Speaker 2: processing plant where there are millions of chickens, grabs four
Speaker 2: of them, puts them in buckets, which is what the
Speaker 2: story tells us. Ironically enough, the buckets they put them
Speaker 2: in they got from the back of a KFC store
Speaker 2: that were put into the dumpster. So she is now
Speaker 2: convicted of stealing the four chickens. And her attorney and
Speaker 2: by the way, her attorney said, oh, we're going to
Speaker 2: appeal the conviction. Her attorney said that the prosecution look
Speaker 2: at what the prosecutors look at what the county did
Speaker 2: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to prosecute this case
Speaker 2: because the animal rights people were throwing tons of money
Speaker 2: into this legal action.
Speaker 1: Into the defense.
Speaker 2: Well, the prosecution is right, and that is we're not
Speaker 2: doing this because you're an animal rights person or you
Speaker 2: believe in, you know, stopping animal cruelty.
Speaker 1: We did this because it broke in. That's what it's about.
Speaker 2: You broke into a facility, and it doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: the motivation is, and it doesn't. I mean, can you
Speaker 2: imagine if they don't prosecute based on the fact that
Speaker 2: the motivation is to save animals from cruelty. By the way,
Speaker 2: does anybody think when they're gnawing on a chicken leg
Speaker 2: that somehow it's cruel to animals?
Speaker 1: I try not to think. I don't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are people that na on people's legs
Speaker 2: that don't think that it's cruelty.
Speaker 1: The people read Jeffrey Dahmer different story. The point is,
Speaker 1: that's what animals are.
Speaker 2: But we as human beings, are put on this earth,
Speaker 2: and we are the primary species, and we eat both.
Speaker 1: Animals and we eat plants. That's what we do.
Speaker 2: We were designed to do that by God, if you
Speaker 2: are into God. We were also designed to listen to
Speaker 2: rock and roll and to get high on drugs and
Speaker 2: to engage in all kinds of crazy ass sexual escapades.
Speaker 1: That's what human beings do. So you can.
Speaker 2: Argue all day long that chickens have to be saved
Speaker 2: from poulsry plants. Now, I wonder which of the four
Speaker 2: chickens were the lucky ones. You talk about winning the lottery.
Speaker 2: There's two million chickens. We'll grab these four. You ever
Speaker 2: seen a chicken smile? Okay, all right, let me talk
Speaker 2: about restaurants. And then Neil talks about restaurants all the time.
Speaker 2: And this is how restaurants have changed completely. It's a
Speaker 2: new model and it started in the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: And what it is is delivery. It's not people coming
Speaker 2: into the restaurant anymore. It's delivering food. And you mix
Speaker 2: that up with technology. I mean, even delivery has been
Speaker 2: around involved forever. I remember as a kid in the
Speaker 2: valley there was pizza Man that would deliver and that
Speaker 2: was and by the way, that failed miserably only because
Speaker 2: the pizzas were horrible and it was basically pizza again.
Speaker 3: I still have Pizza Man.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you go back a long way. Well, the
Speaker 2: point is it's gone from pizza delivery, which has sort
Speaker 2: of been the end all be all for pizzas, into
Speaker 2: anything you want, I mean anything. Some of the most
Speaker 2: high end food that is delivered to your door, and
Speaker 2: you're never on the phone. You never talk to anybody,
Speaker 2: is you just you're clicking through on your device or
Speaker 2: on your home computer and the order comes in and
Speaker 2: then the mechanism starts on the other side. And what
Speaker 2: has been happening, I think Neil will back this up.
Speaker 2: What has been happening is that the focus of restaurants
Speaker 2: is moving away from people walking into restaurants and having
Speaker 2: the restaurant experience to having the food delivered at home.
Speaker 2: Now there's some downsides to that too, which I'm going
Speaker 2: to get into, but just get I'm going to start
Speaker 2: giving you some stats, and I want to start.
Speaker 1: Giving you some names.
Speaker 2: Okay, this guy, but then na Colin Wallace in two
Speaker 2: thousand and six wanted a snack in the classroom and
Speaker 2: he had delivered long classes and he did it by
Speaker 2: talking on the phone, ordering for the restaurant and then
Speaker 2: waiting for the delivery.
Speaker 1: It was the Georgia Tech and he goes, that's kind
Speaker 1: of neat.
Speaker 2: So he started a company that then was eventually acquired
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven by grub Hub. He was at a
Speaker 2: leadership at this company that would go on to change
Speaker 2: restaurants forever. And so, as I said today, you can
Speaker 2: get anything, literally anything ice cream Sunday, martini, wagou steak
Speaker 2: delivered to your door and whatever you order. It comes
Speaker 2: from a business that used to operate as a restaurant,
Speaker 2: and now it's more like a pickup counter. And there's
Speaker 2: no experience there, restaurant experience, although eating at home and
Speaker 2: in front of your TV that's kind of an I mean,
Speaker 2: there's some downsides to that delivery. And now I don't
Speaker 2: like delivery at home. I mean, I think Lindsay has
Speaker 2: door dash and we have it delivered, you know, once
Speaker 2: a blue moon. But the food is always cold. You
Speaker 2: never get hot, piping food delivered to your table.
Speaker 1: That's a given.
Speaker 2: The best you're gonna do is lukewarm plus and the
Speaker 2: food steams. You order tacos, for example, from that taco
Speaker 2: restaurant up the street from US, which has great tacos,
Speaker 2: these crispy tacos that are just wonderful. Well, once I
Speaker 2: ordered from them and they wrap it up in aluminum
Speaker 2: foil by the time it got to my house, and
Speaker 2: by the way, only a few minutes later.
Speaker 1: Because this thing is quarter mile from it from me.
Speaker 2: The tacos were all soggy, they had steamed in their containers.
Speaker 2: And even the way the restaurants are using many dishes,
Speaker 2: they're not using much cutlery. What they're using is lots
Speaker 2: of plastic, lots of paper, lots of rappers. And it's
Speaker 2: changed completely, totally, completely, basically. One of the restaurant restaurant
Speaker 2: tours and a critic as well as an expert in
Speaker 2: the world of restaurant says, what's happening is less of
Speaker 2: experience and this has become a commodity.
Speaker 1: That is the shame of it.
Speaker 2: National Restaurant Association keeps track of restaurants nationally.
Speaker 1: Wine a whild name. In twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Four, nearly three out of every four restaurant orders were
Speaker 2: not eaten in restaurants. And when you look at millennials
Speaker 2: and Generation Z man, here are the stats. More than
Speaker 2: half of adults under forty five use delivery at least
Speaker 2: once a week.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that. How come I has that to me?
Speaker 2: They use delivered at least once a week, thirteen percent
Speaker 2: use it every day. One in eight boomers use the
Speaker 2: delivery once a week, which is last time a Boomer.
Speaker 2: We're order inners or inner orders, and DoorDash was just
Speaker 2: acquired by a British delivery service, delivery, I mean delivery.
Speaker 2: How's that for a name? They paid three point eight
Speaker 2: six billion dollars for door Dash. So, Neil, you have
Speaker 2: seen this happen. You've been talking about food for what
Speaker 2: twenty years and you have fifteen or more? Okay, you
Speaker 2: have you know you have seen this happen before your
Speaker 2: very eyes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we all saw it unfold and then explode,
Speaker 3: you know, tenfold or more during the pandemic. It just
Speaker 3: has been Now it's the norm. I mean, whether it's groceries,
Speaker 3: which is one thing, or whether it's restaurants, which is
Speaker 3: a whole other thing, because they're still paying unless they
Speaker 3: have a ghost kitchen, which we've talked about before, which
Speaker 3: is just a kitchen, no storefront, no vibe, no atmosphere,
Speaker 3: nothing inside. You never walk in it. All this ghost
Speaker 3: kitchen does is produce food to be delivered. That's one thing.
Speaker 3: But if you have an actual restaurant that you've paid
Speaker 3: designers to come and design to make a vibe and
Speaker 3: all of those things, you've got people paid to go
Speaker 3: in there and serve you, or make cocktails or do
Speaker 3: any of these things. There's a massive amount of cost
Speaker 3: in there. And I know it looks glamorous and like
Speaker 3: everybody's you know, a celebrity chef, but it's not. They're
Speaker 3: very small margins, and those margins are consumed by the
Speaker 3: typical charge fifteen to thirty percent of the total order
Speaker 3: price by the company that is, the third party company
Speaker 3: or app that is delivers.
Speaker 1: But let me throw something back at you.
Speaker 2: The cost of producing the meal and having it delivered
Speaker 2: for a restaurant, is that more profitable than it is
Speaker 2: for a sit down restaurant, considering labor, considering rent, considering overhead, because.
Speaker 3: If you're trying to do both, which they are because
Speaker 3: that's the only way they can stay alive, and some
Speaker 3: of it they're still paying for the lighting, the air
Speaker 3: condition everything, if that restaurant's empty.
Speaker 1: No, And that's my point.
Speaker 2: So what I'm asking is, if a restaurant can successfully
Speaker 2: move over to delivery only for the same food, will
Speaker 2: they make more money.
Speaker 3: No, Because some of the best items, some of the
Speaker 3: higher end items stake and things like that, they don't
Speaker 3: travel well. I was saying, And you're not going to
Speaker 3: buy a fancy meal and have it delivered to your house.
Speaker 1: Except that's happening now, why rare occasions? All do something?
Speaker 3: If I'm you know, if it's just me and I'm
Speaker 3: sitting home and Max and Tracy are at visiting family
Speaker 3: or something, then I might treat myself to something like that.
Speaker 3: But at that point I'll make it myself. It's not
Speaker 3: a great model the way it is. They've tried to
Speaker 3: switch to first party where they invite you. Restaurants invite
Speaker 3: you to order off of their website, and that saves
Speaker 3: them some money, but still it's a rough model all
Speaker 3: the way around. And I think deliveries continues to get
Speaker 3: worse because now they're batch. They're batching deliveries if you notice,
Speaker 3: and so it takes longer for you to get yours
Speaker 3: because they're making multiple stops for other people's foods. So
Speaker 3: the quality goes down.
Speaker 1: I think the.
Speaker 3: Way it's designed or being utilized now, they're going to
Speaker 3: have to they're gonna have to change that a little bit.
Speaker 3: But it's hard to have a restaurant and try and
Speaker 3: live off of just delivery.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at people who deliver, they're ten ninety
Speaker 2: nine employees. No one is a cardiovascular surgeon that delivers food.
Speaker 2: They are told to move quickly, not particularly safely.
Speaker 1: Remember what was it.
Speaker 2: Domino's used to deliver in half an hour guaranteed until
Speaker 2: one driver plowed into a car and made the other driver,
Speaker 2: the kid, a quadriplegic. Okay, they stopped doing the half
Speaker 2: hour guaranteed and driving.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know this.
Speaker 2: Driving for a delivery service is one of the most
Speaker 2: dangerous jobs in America.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1: Really, I didn't either.
Speaker 2: That's according to the story out of the Atlantic. Okay,
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