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Speaker 2: Come on now. Victory Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty. Hi, Hello,

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. The Bengals victorious over the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We got a victory Friday to celebrate. Been a long weeks,

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Speaker 2: been a ten this week, been a lot going on,

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Speaker 2: but the Bengals make everything better with a big win

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Speaker 2: last night and Cincinnati now three and four, two and

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Speaker 2: zero in the AFC North and the season very much alive.

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Speaker 2: Who to thunk it? Joe Flacco three hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: two yards last night through the air, and the Bengals

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Speaker 2: found a way to outduel Aaron Rodgers. And it's good vibes,

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Speaker 2: good vibes on a Friday. Thank you for being here

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Speaker 2: and for being on the show with me today. Phone

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Speaker 2: lines are open at five point three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty all of our Number one to get your

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Speaker 2: reaction to what you saw last night, what you heard

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Speaker 2: last night with the Bengals beating the Pittsburgh Steelers. I

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Speaker 2: just got off the air. It feels like a couple

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Speaker 2: of hours ago, doing the postgame sports talk show until

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Speaker 2: two thirty in the morning, and I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: People were fired up. I always love it when there's

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Speaker 2: home games because people are driving back to wherever they

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Speaker 2: may have descended upon Cincinnati from and everybody's juiced. Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: If it's one thirty, doesn't matter, if it's two to four,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. People are juiced after the Bengals win, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna try to keep that energy today. Coming up

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Speaker 2: at one o'clock, Charlie Goldsmith from Charlie's Chalkboard in Fox nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Charlie's gonna join us as he normally does. We'll do

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Speaker 2: our regular segment with Tommy g as well as FC

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati is getting set to finish off their regular season

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Speaker 2: and get set for the playoffs. They play Montreal tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Tommy g about that at two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: And we've got quick hits as well. No mode today.

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Speaker 2: We've still got Bengals pep rally in its normal spot

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Speaker 2: on a Friday, and I'm sure it will be a

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Speaker 2: relatively pep pep rally for the Bengals today down there

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Speaker 2: at the Kroger over the Rhine. So looking forward to

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Speaker 2: listening to that as well. We will have talkbacks in

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Speaker 2: our normal spot and football in the Nattie and all

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Speaker 2: of that. But last night, man, they were calling it

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Speaker 2: the Icy Hot Bowl, they were calling it the Unk Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the Unction, just a couple of forty year old quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: getting after it. And I'll tell you what the way. Listen.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you've listened to this show for a

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Speaker 2: long time, you know that I have been a long

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Speaker 2: time Zach Taylor apologist. And you also know that a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago Zach lost me and I think

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Speaker 2: he still has a ways to go for him to

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Speaker 2: earn my trust back. But I thought last night was

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Speaker 2: the best game Zach Taylor has called as a play

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Speaker 2: caller since the Divisional Round win in Buffalo in the

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Speaker 2: twenty two playoffs. Like he was sensational, he had great feel,

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Speaker 2: there was great balance, There were just easy concepts for

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. There were RPOs, there were quick slants, there

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Speaker 2: was under center play action, there was moving the pocket,

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Speaker 2: few different blockers pulling and moving around. Like all of

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Speaker 2: it huge, huge for Zach Taylor. He did a great

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Speaker 2: job and the Bengals were prepared on a short week Thursday,

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Speaker 2: divisional opponent, and that, to me is a huge testament

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Speaker 2: to Zach Taylor and his coaching staff. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: give credit where credit is due again to perform the

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Speaker 2: way that Joe Flacco did in the second half against

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Speaker 2: the Packers, and then to come out and perform the

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Speaker 2: way they did even though they kind of got punched

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Speaker 2: in the mouth early by the Steelers last night and

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh goes up ten to nothing and the Bengals are

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Speaker 2: struggling and there's a penalty and they're dropping the ball.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals didn't flinch. They made the most of two

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Speaker 2: out a halftime and get points to go up two possessions,

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Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh's playing catch up the rest of the way. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals still have a long way to go on defense,

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Speaker 2: but for them to operate the way they did, one

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Speaker 2: Bengals probably would have been one hundred and fifty if

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Speaker 2: not for Joe Flacco taking knees At the end of

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Speaker 2: the game, Jamar Chase breaks his own franchise record with

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Speaker 2: sixteen receptions for one hundred and sixty one yards in

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Speaker 2: t Higgins last night, six for ninety six. He easily

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Speaker 2: so of the forty seven passes that Joe Flacco threw

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Speaker 2: thirty three of them were to Jamar Chaser t Higgins. Again,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a credit to Zach Taylor in that scheme.

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Speaker 2: How about andre Yosavas with a big thirty seven yard

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Speaker 2: completion that helped this team get some points in the

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Speaker 2: third quarter. Noah Fant had a twenty five yard completion.

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Speaker 2: We saw some explosives. Saw some explosives from Chase Brown

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Speaker 2: on defense, there's still a lot to clean up. They

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Speaker 2: can't tackle. Going back over my notes from last night,

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Speaker 2: every single drive I wrote down tackling, tackling, tackling, tackling.

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Speaker 2: Now I get it. Thursday, short week. Your body's probably

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Speaker 2: not fully recovered from last week. I expect some misstackles,

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Speaker 2: but go Lee. Were those some bad misstackles by the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: They had missed nineteen if I'm not mistaken against the

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Speaker 2: Packers last week, which I believe was the most ever

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Speaker 2: in the Zach Taylor era. I haven't seen an official

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Speaker 2: up in that it had to be close to nineteen

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Speaker 2: or twenty missed tackles, and a lot of them seemed

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Speaker 2: to come from Demetrius Knight Junior, the rookie linebacker who

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Speaker 2: just doesn't ever seem to be playing under control. There's

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Speaker 2: some work to be done on Demetrius Knight. There's some

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Speaker 2: work to be done with Barrett Carter. He did, though,

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Speaker 2: with a nice play. Joseph Osai had a tackle for loss.

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Speaker 2: all this without Trey Hendrickson. That was the other thing,

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Speaker 2: including a long win to Pat Fryermoot that gave Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Bengals were able to camp capitalize with points off of turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Then the other thing we talked about it going into

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Speaker 2: Jalen Warren got going last night sixteen carries for a

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Speaker 2: averaging seven point four yards per carry. Not good, Ernie,

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Speaker 2: not good. They are going to have to be a

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Speaker 2: And I will say this, and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: pour cold water on a victory Friday, but I know

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Speaker 2: we're all kind of excited about what the next couple

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Speaker 2: I will say this, if you tackle the way you

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Speaker 2: have got to tackle better. You can't expect Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: just not realistic for that to happen, and so I

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Speaker 2: town Ring of Honor game next weekend, honoring Dave Lapham

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Speaker 2: Leap and Lamar Parrish. What other storylines, Well, how about

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Speaker 2: Cam Taylor Britt. That's an interesting one. I give the

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Speaker 2: Bengals credit. They're not afraid to ruffle some feathers, They're

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Speaker 2: not afraid to send a message. And by the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: I mean Zach Taylor and his coach staff. Because Cam

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Speaker 2: Taylor Brit quite quite frankly, has not been good enough.

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Speaker 2: that being said, it was not a surprise to see

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Speaker 2: Taylor Britt was a healthy scratch. He was inactive last night,

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Speaker 2: it was also interesting the starting offensive line last night.

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Speaker 2: either way, exciting day, exciting moment for this franchise. We

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Speaker 2: And on top of all of that, there was some

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Speaker 2: good news prior to the game yesterday, it was from

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Speaker 2: Ian Rapaport saying that there have been no setbacks in

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Speaker 2: telling people that he absolutely intends on coming back in

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Speaker 2: Good to go for Joe Burrow. He was involved sitting

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Speaker 2: on the bench talking to Joe Flacco and Jake Browning.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear several highlights from the game, including Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco tucking and running. Was I the only one who

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Speaker 2: had flashbacks to Ryan Finley in that game against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: a few years ago? The way Joe Flacco took that

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Speaker 2: my goodness, unbelievable. The Bengals were aggressive, they were they

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Speaker 2: to our guy John, John, Happy victory Friday. What's up?

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Speaker 6: Happy victory Friday, Austin. Great job on the postgame show

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Speaker 6: last night.

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Speaker 7: By the way, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I was going to call in, but that should be

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Speaker 7: That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I got a call last night from a guy in

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Speaker 2: we're international around here. John, don't be afraid.

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Speaker 7: Okay, sounds good. Keep on winning.

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Speaker 6: I'll start calling again, absolutely, But since I'm from Boston,

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Speaker 6: So a couple of things that I thought could have

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Speaker 7: That was a mismatch that was like elderly.

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Speaker 6: It's no, it didn't matter. I mean, and I'll make

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Speaker 7: He's He's that good. The other thing that was a.

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Speaker 7: They left too much time on the clock.

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Speaker 6: When Flacco took the final kneed, it was about eighteen

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Speaker 6: Bled a little bit more so that the kilgo was

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Speaker 2: I mean he had the last night. That Hail Mary

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Speaker 6: No, he's I mean, I you know, I was planning

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Speaker 7: Who goes?

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Speaker 6: But it was it was, Yeah, you just don't want

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Speaker 6: Then you had some stretch plays where you know Flacco

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Speaker 7: Five Beers, I get it. They're creating turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and John, thank you for the phone call man.

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Speaker 2: Last night, Jamar joined Randy Moss and Jerry Rice as

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Speaker 2: in every way, shape and form. Let's go to Independence.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to Mike. What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 8: Hey, what's going on outie?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Man, my voice is is kind of gone, but we'll

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Speaker 9: I got home at like three point thirty from the game,

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Speaker 7: And the White House's always big.

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Speaker 6: But that was awesome.

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Speaker 9: And then I agree the aggressive this throughout the game.

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Speaker 10: Great job I thought blocking for that.

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Speaker 9: Just a just a great experience all around yesterday and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And it seems like the atmosphere was as

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was pretty scattered through the tailgate lots too,

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Speaker 9: and throughout the stands not very many at all. And

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Speaker 9: then I don't know if you may touched on this

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Speaker 9: or not, but for the pregame lineup coming out offensive starters,

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Speaker 9: they had Jamar Chase come out last.

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Speaker 11: They had third to be announced Dan T.

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Speaker 10: Higgins.

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Speaker 9: I mean Jamar Chase was the last win reduced, so

439
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Speaker 9: that I was fantastic. I thought it was a good

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Speaker 9: good uh symbol there with the things that come for

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Speaker 9: that game.

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Speaker 7: So that was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool, Mike, thank you for the phone call. Man,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah, that is Mike and independence and yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: Like I wrote down on the notes for today's show,

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Speaker 2: the Jamar Chase Conversation, I think it's fair to say

447
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Speaker 2: he's the best player in football. I don't know that

448
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: you would get like there's some arguments to be made there.

449
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: I think he's, without a doubt, the best wide receiver

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Speaker 2: in football. Is Jamar Chase already already the best wide

451
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Speaker 2: receiver in the history of the Bengals franchise. Is he

452
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Speaker 2: already to that point? It kind of feels like he

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00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: is right, Like, that's not crazy to say. And for

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Speaker 2: him to over the last couple of weeks, and we've

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Speaker 2: seen see him do it in the past, just take

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Speaker 2: over a game. We need help offensively, we need somebody

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Speaker 2: to turn to Jamar Chases here. And it didn't matter

458
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Speaker 2: if it was the same out route he ran four

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Speaker 2: times previously he was open, or if it was a

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Speaker 2: quick slant or a bubble screen, or how about that

461
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Speaker 2: call late to get them into Pittsburgh territory, the mesh

462
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Speaker 2: concept where he kind of comes on that shallow cross

463
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Speaker 2: and when Flacco gives him the ball, there's not even

464
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Speaker 2: a Steeler player in the frame. He's so wide open.

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Speaker 2: That was a great play call and play design as well,

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Speaker 2: finding ways to get the ball to Jamar Chase. And

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Speaker 2: what's impressive about him as well, like, yeah, you know,

468
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Speaker 2: these other great receivers in Bengals history have had some

469
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Speaker 2: pretty good quarterbacks to go along with them. But Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase has done this with Joe Burrow, He's done it

471
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Speaker 2: with Jake Browning, He's done it with Joe Flacco. I

472
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Speaker 2: mean he's found ways to do it over and over again,

473
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Speaker 2: has Jamar Chase, And he deserves a ton of credit

474
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Speaker 2: for that. He might just be might just be already

475
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Speaker 2: the best receiver in Bengals history. You'll hear from Jamar

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Speaker 2: coming up in just a little bit half an hour

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Speaker 2: from right now, Charlie Goldsmith from Fox nineteen and Charlie's

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Speaker 2: chalkboard is going to stop by when we come back, though.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Alexa, what's going on in baseball?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Friday Football Frenzy here on since E three

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Speaker 2: to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty. Getting your reaction to the

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Speaker 2: Bengals beating the Pittsburgh Steelers last night. Let's go back

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Speaker 2: to the phones. Let's go to Jay in Cincinnati. What's up, Jay?

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Speaker 12: Hey, what's up? To hear about? Get Paul from that place?

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Speaker 11: I hate to hear that.

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Speaker 12: He was pretty good, but you know, fire moved tied

492
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Speaker 12: in for the Steelers. Why didn't he go down on

493
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Speaker 12: that play? I mean because the Steeler hadn't really been

494
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Speaker 12: stopping the Bengals the whole game.

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Speaker 2: True, Yeah, that's a good point. You know, he could

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Speaker 2: have probably applied the same thing that the uh the

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Speaker 2: T Higgins did.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and I was like, why are you trying to score?

499
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Speaker 12: You haven't about the Bengals since probably the first quarter

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Speaker 12: of the series. And then and then you out of

501
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 12: did a Deshaun?

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Speaker 10: Uh? Uh?

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Speaker 12: What's his name? The guy used played with the Eagles.

504
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 12: I ran from end zone to end zone until.

505
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Speaker 11: Somebody Jackson, Yeah, Jackson.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: One of my concerns about the Beagles is their lack

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Speaker 12: of return game on kickoffs, you know, And I like Burton?

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Speaker 12: Why won't they put him back there activating? Well, what's

510
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 12: going on with him?

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Speaker 13: If?

512
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Speaker 12: Are we gonna have to see him again?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 2: The Jermaine Burton sagas is one of the more curious

516
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Speaker 2: ones because it felt like he was doing well and

517
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Speaker 2: then maybe he wasn't. And I just don't know if

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Speaker 2: they feel like they trust him. And you know, it

519
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: was strange last night Charlie Jones had been dealing with

520
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: rib with rib injury, was questionable and is activated, but

521
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Speaker 2: isn't returning kickoffs. Only is catching punts. Basically, it wasn't

522
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Speaker 2: really returning punts either, So felt like they were kind

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Speaker 2: of one arm behind their back on that one. Is

524
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Speaker 2: well and Pete Ryan has been okay. I think it's

525
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: good to get Taj Brooks a look. But you're right,

526
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Speaker 2: that doesn't really feel like a threatening position right now?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, right, now it's not. And also what happened to

528
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 12: the Steelers pass was did the Bengos offensive line finally

529
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Speaker 12: play like we expected him to after all that money?

530
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Speaker 12: And what about the right was it guard or tackle river?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had he had one one play early

532
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Speaker 2: on where they they uh, he missed the stunt and

533
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: Flaco ended up getting sacked. But like through the first

534
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Speaker 2: three three and a half quarters, t J. Watt didn't

535
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Speaker 2: register a single statistic, didn't pad a pass down, didn't

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Speaker 2: make a tackle, didn't have that sacked till late in

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Speaker 2: the game. So they got the ball out quickly and

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Speaker 2: for the most part, Flacco had a really good pocket

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Speaker 2: and the fact that they were even able to get

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Speaker 2: those deep passes down the field as well, the protection

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Speaker 2: held up long enough, which that's what was my biggest

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Speaker 2: concern going into the game. Honestly.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the past protection. I mean, they overachieved. Thanks, so

544
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Speaker 12: I had to give it to him. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 12: my call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling man, I appreciate it. Yeah, anytime you overachieve,

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Speaker 2: you'll take that. Let's go to Mason. Let's talk to Scott.

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Speaker 2: What's up Scott, Hey, Austin, how you doing. I'm wonderful.

549
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Speaker 2: What's talk mind?

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Speaker 15: Hey, we watched the game from the backyard last night

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Speaker 15: with the bonfire and TV and all.

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Speaker 12: That was great.

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Speaker 15: My observation hasn't been covered yet. Was I just felt

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Speaker 15: and kind of had a little bit. But you know,

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Speaker 15: with Flako in there, I never was worried that he

556
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Speaker 15: was going to get hurt. You know, It's funny over

557
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Speaker 15: the last couple of years with Burrow, whoever's out there,

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Speaker 15: just and I'm sure a lot of it has to

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Speaker 15: do with the O line, but it also has to

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Speaker 15: do with his just his calmness, his his six foot

561
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Speaker 15: six stature and the way he just sees down the field.

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Speaker 15: And I was just really impressed with his check offs

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Speaker 15: and the you know, frandit. He had chased a lot,

564
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Speaker 15: but I just study did a masterful job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean he was so calm.

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Speaker 2: He said kind of after the game that like he

567
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: didn't really know half the plays he was saying and

568
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: was screwing up some of the formations and wasn't entirely

569
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Speaker 2: sure what he was looking at when he got to

570
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, which makes it even more impressive

571
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Speaker 2: that he was able to operate the offense like that.

572
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Speaker 2: But he's just seen and been a part of so

573
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Speaker 2: much football, and specifically seeing like a Mike Tomlin style

574
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Speaker 2: of defense or a Tarot Austin style of defense so

575
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: much that you kind of know some of the answers

576
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Speaker 2: to the test. And it's a lot easier when you

577
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Speaker 2: got a cheat sheet like Jamar Chase and t Higgins.

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Speaker 15: Yep, I'll give him that for sure. But I just

579
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Speaker 15: thought it was it was great to kind of watch

580
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Speaker 15: a game and only worry a little bit about winning

581
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Speaker 15: and losing and not losing your quarterback. So I just

582
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Speaker 15: never once felt like he was going to get hurt.

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Speaker 8: So I thought that was just that was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting, Scott, And thank you for the phone,

585
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Speaker 2: cause yeah, I mean I feel that way about everybody,

586
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Speaker 2: Like every time Jamar touches the ball, I'm terrified, Like

587
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: I just don't want him to get hurt, just because

588
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: you've been bitten by that bug so many times in

589
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Speaker 2: the past. But you're right, like the calm demeanor of

590
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is much is certainly what this team needed,

591
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: because there were times where it felt like it could

592
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Speaker 2: unravel or felt like, oh here comes Pittsburgh. Again, they

593
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 2: gave up ten points right away. How are we going

594
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Speaker 2: to get back to this? Like, how is this going

595
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: to get fixed? And they just they were able to

596
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Speaker 2: like really look at it and settle it down with

597
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Speaker 2: the play calls. Once that run game got established, I'm

598
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Speaker 2: telling you, man, once you get a run game, it

599
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: opens up everything else on the offense. I've been saying

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Speaker 2: this for months. I've been preaching it over and over

601
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Speaker 2: and over again. Once you get a run game, it

602
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Speaker 2: opens up everything else on offense.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 2: When you have even the slightest threat of a run game,

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals had some successful runs early on, you

607
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: have to force the defense to respect that. And so

608
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: when the Steeler started respecting that, the Bengals would throw

609
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: those quick passes out to the outside, they would do

610
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Speaker 2: a quick slant, they would do a quick out, and

611
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Speaker 2: then you start bringing those guys back outside the box

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Then you'll run it again. Then you

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Speaker 2: start running ourpos and if it's there, you run it

614
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: for a positive game, and if it's not, you flip

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: it back outside. Like putting the defenders, specifically the linebackers

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Speaker 2: in a dilemma and then taking advantage of whatever they

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Speaker 2: do wrong. And on top of that, it negates the

618
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: pass rush. It wears out those guys on the edge.

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Speaker 2: They never even get close to the quarterback or they're

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Speaker 2: just chasing the running back from behind the entire game.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously Flacco, you know, pulling it and running

622
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: late in the game was a huge play. It ultimately

623
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Speaker 2: didn't have an impact because of the drive stalling out,

624
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: but that in and of itself is part of how

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00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: the operation overall of the offense was really clean and

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Speaker 2: really smooth last night. And the other part, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's funny. We can talk about this maybe when we

628
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: get back, is what Kirk Kerbstreet was talking about. That

629
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Speaker 2: the feeling inside the stadium, or the feeling for a

630
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: lot of Bengals fans, was that you're waiting for something

631
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Speaker 2: to go wrong. And I think we all know that feeling.

632
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Speaker 2: I think we've all been there. I think we all

633
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: understand that pretty well. And that's how I was feeling

634
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: as well. But like in the midst of that moment,

635
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking, gosh, this is what makes being a

636
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: sports fan so much fun. Is when you're on the

637
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Speaker 2: edge of your seat and you've got a pit in

638
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: your stomach and you don't know how this is going

639
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: to end, and if it ends your way, it's going

640
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: to be elation, and if it doesn't, it's going to

641
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: be a gut punch. And that's the beauty of being

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00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: a sports fan and being on the edge of your

643
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: seat like that is so awesome, so fun for a fan,

644
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: and so it's been cool. Last night was cool to

645
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Speaker 2: experience that, and more than anything, hope like when you

646
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: have hope, when you have belief, when you can see

647
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: the path, it makes it a lot easier to be

648
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Speaker 2: a fan as well. Now, the other thing here is

649
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: the Bengals have to really consider getting somebody to help

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Speaker 2: their defense. I don't know if that person's out there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it makes sense from a draft

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Speaker 2: pick standpoint, I don't know. But they can't keep running

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Speaker 2: this group out there and expecting something to work, or

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Speaker 2: Al Golden has got to come up with better ways

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Speaker 2: to rush the passer. If Trey's not able to go,

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Speaker 2: you can't be relying on Miles Murphy. You can't be

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Speaker 2: relying on bj Hill, who basically did nothing last night.

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Speaker 2: To my recollection, Chris Jenkins, when the last time you

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Speaker 2: said his name. McKinley. Jackson was inactive again. Jordan Jefferson

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Speaker 2: was active over him. Like the defensive line, just no

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Speaker 2: pressure whatsoever, Shamar Stewart. I mean, that's a tall task.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough ask for him to come in and

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Speaker 2: immediately have that type of an impact. But you know,

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Speaker 2: they have to find better ways to pressure the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The good news is on the backside, Dax Hill playing

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Speaker 2: pretty well playing SODO. He's certainly far from perfect, but

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Speaker 2: he's playing well. And then DJ Turner had two passes

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Speaker 2: defense last night, including that interception that was just a

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Speaker 2: crazy play, falling out of bounds, wrestling the ball away

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Speaker 2: from DK Metcalf, getting a foot and a knee in

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Speaker 2: and holding the ball, holding on to the balls you

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Speaker 2: go to the ground. I mean, god Lee, what a

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Speaker 2: play by DJ Turner. Going into last night, he was

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Speaker 2: the league leader in passes defense and he's still obviously

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Speaker 2: the league leader in passes defense. It means teams are

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Speaker 2: thrown at him and he's responding and for him to

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Speaker 2: be able to make the plays he made last night

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Speaker 2: up against a guy like DK Metcalf, who size, speed,

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Speaker 2: stature is one heck of a beast to have to

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Speaker 2: go up against. I mean, kudos to DJ Turner for

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Speaker 2: fighting like hell over the course of that game. So

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Speaker 2: you feel good about Henderson, you feel good about Stuart,

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Speaker 2: you feel good about DJ Turner. I think you feel

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Speaker 2: fine about Dax Hill everybody else. There's just a lot

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Speaker 2: of inconsistency. And we saw a lot more Logan Wilson

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Speaker 2: last night due to those heavy sets that Pittsburgh was

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Speaker 2: going with on offense. And by the way, I thought

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh had a really good plan too, And I think

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Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of teams mimic this against the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: especially next week with the Jets if Garrett Wilson's able

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Speaker 2: to go. I think Garret Wilson's gonna miss this week

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Speaker 2: for the Jets. If he's able to go, the Jets

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Speaker 2: are gonna do everything in their power to get the

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Speaker 2: ball out in space to their playmakers on the perimeter.

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Speaker 2: That was Pittsburgh's entire game plan last night. It was

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Speaker 2: run the ball off the right edge. It was quick

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Speaker 2: passes and forced the Bengals to be able to tackle,

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals couldn't tackle, and they missed a bunch

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Speaker 2: of tackles. And that's how Pittsburgh kept drives alive. But

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Speaker 2: I legitimately believe if the Steelers wanted to, they could

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Speaker 2: have run that toss off the right side every single

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Speaker 2: play and won that game last night. At one point

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Speaker 2: they ran it three times in a row, and we're dashing.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals run defense has got to get figured out.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, We'll come back. This is Friday

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Speaker 2: football frenzy on a victory Friday right here on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty wise.

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Speaker 17: Redefensive backs begin retreating about thirty yards down the field.

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Speaker 17: Three seconds left the Steelers sixty yards from the end zone.

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Speaker 17: Rogers catches the shotgun. Stam Now he'll run around, allow

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Speaker 17: his receivers to get downfield, and he launches it into

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Speaker 17: the end zone and it is broken up incomplete.

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Speaker 18: Don't knock the way by Djivy have The Bengals have

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Speaker 18: knocked out the Steelers on Thursday night by the final

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Speaker 18: score of thirty three to thirty one. The AF seed

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Speaker 18: North gets tighter and the Bengals outlook gets brighter. With

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Speaker 18: a tremendous closing finish and a game winning field goal

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Speaker 18: with seven seconds to go.

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Speaker 4: How about that money Max?

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Speaker 19: So many heroes in this football game, offensive, defensive, and

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Speaker 19: special teams when you include money Mack.

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Speaker 4: All I could say is Bengals.

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Speaker 19: Beat the Pittsburgh Steelers two division wins, two and zero

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Speaker 19: in the division. That could be a factor as the

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Speaker 19: season progresses unfold. Bam, Bam, Bam, Bengals win thirty three

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Speaker 19: thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Dan Horn Dave Lapham on the call last night, after

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Speaker 2: that Hail Mary from Aaron Rodgers was batted away by

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Speaker 2: dj Ivy sixty nine yards in the air. Was that

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Speaker 2: throw from Aaron Rodgers? Everybody was nervous. You know you

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Speaker 2: were nervous because Rogers is so freaking good at that stuff.

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Speaker 2: and it was, what on earth are the people in

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Speaker 2: Cleveland thinking watching this game from Joe Flacco, especially considering

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Speaker 2: you know, Dylan Gabriel, Schador, Sanders, the circus that is

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns right now? What are these people thinking

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Speaker 2: in Cleveland? And I saw this clip from the Tony

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Speaker 2: in Cleveland after last night's game and the Bengals beating

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Take a listen.

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Speaker 4: How could you do that?

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Speaker 8: Andrew?

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Speaker 2: How could you do it?

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Speaker 20: Why on earth did you feel the need to trade

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Speaker 20: this guy to a division opponent for a fifth round

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Speaker 20: draft bick fireable offense?

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Speaker 2: That is a fireable offense. I want to know how

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Speaker 2: much longer the.

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Speaker 20: Owner's gonna watch this crap, because the fans.

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Speaker 8: Have had it.

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Speaker 20: We deserve better. You just worried more about your stadium

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Speaker 20: than you are your football team. That's the perception, Jimmy

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Speaker 20: and you allow these people to do this. You have

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Speaker 20: the worst offense in the league. Your GM screwed this

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Speaker 20: quarterback thing up like I've never seen in my life.

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Speaker 20: I've never seen anything like kids to play. Madden could

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Speaker 20: have done a better job, truly, that's not hyperbole. It's

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Speaker 20: a joke. It's a joke. This franchise has become a joke,

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Speaker 20: and I'm sick of it.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love a good old fashioned crash

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Speaker 2: out on the radio. We've all been there, we've all

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Speaker 2: experienced it. And I would imagine inside the walls of

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns facility this morning, there's probably some murmurs

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Speaker 2: from the former players, or from the players, the former

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Speaker 2: teammates of Joe Flacco. There's probably some murmurs up and

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Speaker 2: Andrew Berry, the GM's office. That's who he said at

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Speaker 2: the beginning, Andrew, how could you let this happen? And

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Speaker 2: then of course the big office upstairs with Jimmy Haslam,

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Speaker 2: the owner of the Cleveland Browns, and you know, to

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Speaker 2: be able to just to see Mike Tomlin again struggling

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Speaker 2: on Thursday nights. He has not won on a Thursday

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Speaker 2: night in quite some time, certainly hasn't won in the

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Speaker 2: Division on a Thursday Night. That win last night from

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, by the way, was the tenth straight Division

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Speaker 2: primetime Thursday win. I think I said that correctly. For

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Speaker 2: the AFC North, that's going back to twenty fifteen. Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin in his career on the road Thursday Night football

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Speaker 2: is two to ten overall and zero to seven against

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Speaker 2: the AFC North. That is hard to believe. And yet

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Speaker 2: the Bengals got the best of Mike Tomlin and the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. When we come back, we'll talk to Charlie Goldsmith,

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Speaker 2: who is down at pay Corp Stadium right now. Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor just met with the media and we'll get the

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Speaker 2: latest from Zach in that conversation. And I'm always curious

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Speaker 2: to see how Charlie saw things because he sees things

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Speaker 2: through such a different light I feel like and the

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Speaker 2: rest of us, and I'm curious what stood out to

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Speaker 2: him from last night's game. Again, it's the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Charlie Goldsmith when we come back. Phone

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Speaker 2: lines are going to be open five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty after the talkbacks, which are going to be

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Speaker 2: after Charlie Goldsmith. So here's the schedule. Charlie talkbacks football

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Speaker 2: in the NATI phone calls, Tommy g phone calls, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll do quick hits. And we got some audio

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Speaker 2: from postgame, including Joe Flacco what he had to say

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Speaker 2: and trying to have some good vibes on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but trying to have some

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Speaker 2: good vibes on a Friday. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: We will go into hour two when we come back

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Speaker 2: on this victory Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello and welcome in our number two of a

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Speaker 2: victory Friday football frenzy here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm

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Speaker 2: Austin Elmore with you until three o'clock today. We'll turn

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Speaker 2: things over to the Bengals pep rally after that, And

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Speaker 2: as we do at this time every single Friday, we

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Speaker 7: How are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 10: How are you?

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Speaker 7: I am?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right? Who in the hell saw that

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Speaker 2: coming from Joe Flacco and the Bengals last night? What happened?

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Speaker 8: It's funny like the visuals that keep going back to

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Speaker 8: are like the moment where Chase Brown just let loose

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Speaker 8: and celebrated after his big run. Or Orlando Brown did

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Speaker 8: that himself after one of Chase Brown's runs where Brown

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Speaker 8: had a big block. Josevash did that after his ball

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Speaker 8: down the scene like these were a bunch of guys

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Speaker 8: who just felt beaten down and felt like the season

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Speaker 8: was lost, and Flat was not an MVP level quarterback

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Speaker 8: or anywhere near that, But he's just good enough to

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Speaker 8: let these guys believe they can be good again and

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Speaker 8: succeed individually and collectively. And then they saw it. They

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Speaker 8: had those moments and the end result was a game,

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Speaker 8: a program win. That was their biggest win I think

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Speaker 8: since they beat the forty nine ers in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. And I keep going back

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Speaker 2: to the performance of Zach Taylor. A lot has been

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Speaker 2: made about his play calling, but I thought last night

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Speaker 2: he had good feel, he had good balance, and he

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Speaker 2: did a great job attacking the various weaknesses that the

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Speaker 2: Steelers had. What did you make of Zach's performance as

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Speaker 2: the head coach and play caller last night.

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Speaker 8: Let's get into the weeds here. The Bengals ran three undercenter,

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Speaker 8: no play action straight dropback passing, including one that was

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Speaker 8: a for a touchdown of the t Higgins. One actually

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Speaker 8: almost was a deep ball down the field of Jamorrow

864
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Speaker 8: that could have put the game away, but the Tea

865
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 8: one was obviously massive. The straight drop back under center

866
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 8: the Bengals don't do that. That is a The Bengals

867
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 8: do not do that. That's like, you know, I don't know.

868
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 8: In Cincinnati we put chile on spaghetti. We don't put

869
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 8: chile on salad. Like, we don't do that. That's not

870
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 8: how this thing worked, but they did. Zach credited Dan

871
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 8: Pitcher for recognizing something, and the Steelers tied it to

872
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 8: the idea. They put a package of those plays in

873
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 8: the plan. That also helped open up the run game

874
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 8: because it was kind of a tendency breaker. The thing

875
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 8: I keep going back to, too, is the way the

876
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 8: run game in the past game complimented each other. There

877
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 8: aren't a lot of runs that are plays that were

878
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 8: called runs that Flacco kind of read out of whether

879
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 8: they'd be an RBO or a check or something like

880
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 8: that turned into an important pass. Like the run game

881
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 8: in the past, game were matched up, maybe as well

882
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 8: as they've ever been in any game in Zach Taylor's career.

883
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you, And it felt like

884
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: he had really good feel of that the entire night.

885
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: When you talk about the run game, is there anything

886
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: specifically that you saw that triggered that or was it

887
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: just as simple as you're breaking some tendencies and you're

888
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: doing some things differently than you normally, would you know

889
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: what on.

890
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 8: Chase Brown's explosive runs. I just think it's something that

891
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 8: we haven't talked about because the team has let him down.

892
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 8: And that's the Chase Brown's just really good at this.

893
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 8: Like there was like those screenshot you could make that

894
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 8: it's almost like like Jamar Chase against the Panthers where

895
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 8: on one of Chase Brown last year it's kind of

896
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 8: chased like Grokes seventy five tackles and scored in Carolina.

897
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 8: There was a play last night where the Steelers have

898
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 8: Chase Brown wrapped up and he spins, he jukes, he cuts,

899
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 8: he goes, and he gets like twenty more yards. Like,

900
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 8: this guy's just really good and he had been getting

901
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 8: no help for five weeks, but when you give him help,

902
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 8: he is a standout borderline star caliber running back who

903
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 8: Brownham couldn't even get the ball to in the right spots.

904
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 8: Flacco is helping set up to be better, The scheme

905
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 8: is helping set up to be better. There were some

906
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 8: nice blocks. I noticed Orlando Brown Junior a lot as well.

907
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 8: By far, his best game of the season, and they

908
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 8: got the run game going.

909
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: And start with that offensive line as well, because I

910
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: think some people were surprised that Dalton Reisner started at

911
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: left guard instead of Dylan Fairchild and they stuck with

912
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Rivers instead of Lucas Patti, who was activated before

913
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: the game. What did you make of the way that

914
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: the offensive line is currently constructed and overall their performance

915
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: both run and pass.

916
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 8: No one's directly told me this, but my reading they

917
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 8: didn't have any real practices leading into a short week,

918
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 8: and Patrick and Fairchild both hadn't played in a bit

919
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 8: because they've been hurt. So they just wanted to get

920
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 8: the guys who at least at some level of continuity

921
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 8: where they go from here. I think it's just going

922
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 8: to be week to week. It's going to be a

923
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 8: game we play every week who's starting a guard because

924
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 8: those four guys are in a very similar bucket. But hey, now,

925
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 8: the Bengals, following this win, you're not just by the

926
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 8: fault playing the young guy anymore, like you're not a

927
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 8: rebuilding developmental team, which was at risk of being the

928
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 8: conversation of what they should be doing if they had

929
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 8: lost this game against the Steelers. So I'm sure, honestly

930
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 8: we'll see all four of these guys back in there

931
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 8: at some point over the course of the season. You'd

932
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 8: like fair Child to give you the highest steeling and

933
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 8: hit on that, but Ras has been Okay, le's see

934
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 8: what happens.

935
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: Talking to Charlie Goldsmith, Charlie's chalkboard. Let's go to the

936
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. The emergence of DJ Turner

937
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: continues to be really fun to watch. Is there anything

938
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: specific that he's doing differently that has led to this?

939
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll start here. I've DJ Turner is the Bengals

940
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 8: player I've been the most wrong about, and yesterday it

941
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 8: was the day he won me over. It had been

942
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 8: repetitive earlier in his career where on slants and curls,

943
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 8: just his physicality at the top of routes, at the

944
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 8: catch points just wasn't there. And he was great as

945
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 8: a rookie when teams weren't throwing at him. But he

946
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 8: was a shadow corner when you challenged lost and now

947
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 8: when you challenge him, even if you're fifty pounds heavier

948
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 8: than him, like DK netcap is, he'll just rip the

949
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 8: ball out of your hands. And show the instinct playmaking

950
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 8: and just corner makeup that you need to win at

951
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 8: that position. I could not be more impressed with the

952
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 8: added level of oop in his game for a guy

953
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 8: who also like It's not like he put on twenty pounds,

954
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 8: it's just he developed that through technique and resilience too handling.

955
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 8: You know, he wasn't a starter this year, he wasn't

956
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 8: the starter last year. That Taylor just raved by the

957
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 8: way he navigated all that and said, all right, I'm

958
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 8: just gonna get that spot back. And he did, and

959
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 8: again I was dead wrong. He won me over. DJ

960
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 8: Turner's a really good corner.

961
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: The other cornerback that didn't play last night, Cam Taylor

962
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: Britt was a healthy scratch. Were you surprised by that?

963
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: And what could that mean for his future with the Bengals.

964
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 8: Well, Cam played himself into this position thirdin eight against

965
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 8: the Packers. They call it double team against Matthew Golden

966
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 8: and frankly, Cam Taylor Brick just kind of wanders off

967
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 8: and roams around, and then Matthew Golden down towards the

968
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 8: right sideline, makes that catch, make the field goal. A

969
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 8: couple of plays later, game over like that felt like

970
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 8: not the last strang kind of moment, but in that ballpark,

971
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 8: in that tier, in that realm, And I mean I

972
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 8: was fully expecting them to bention for Josh Newton. I

973
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 8: wasn't expecting the inactive. But when I thought about it

974
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 8: for a second, and I recognized that Cam had no

975
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 8: special teams experience, and I recognized that on third down

976
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 8: some packages. You know what, my guy, Marco Wilson is

977
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 8: a more reliable man corner than Cam Taylbert right now,

978
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 8: I do like Marco Wilson is like a fun back

979
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 8: and the roster guy. He's more reliable in that spot.

980
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 8: So why we can't be active over him? I think

981
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 8: Cam is gonna have earn this back. We all know

982
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 8: his ceiling, but he's going to have to make some

983
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 8: massive changes to re establish some trust that's been lost

984
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 8: and just earn the job back, to practice habits, to

985
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 8: attention to detail through discipline. But this spot, you know,

986
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 8: worse or deservingly wasn't his on on Thursday.

987
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: How did the guys who replaced him, Josh Newton, Marco Wilson,

988
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, how did they play in his place?

989
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 12: Well?

990
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 8: The problem is, and haven't I haven't done the full

991
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 8: defense film yet, but watching it live. The problem is

992
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 8: that the Steelers have one receiver and they're not going

993
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 8: to throw the ball to Scottie Miller and Roman Wilson.

994
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 8: That's why Logan Wilson played so much yesterday because they

995
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 8: just load offensive linemen and tight ends onto the field

996
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 8: because they have no faith in their wide receivers. And

997
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 8: at least Garrett Wilson's hurt, so we won't see that

998
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 8: next week either. So now it'll leave really until the

999
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 8: Beer Game until we'll have a real feel of how

1000
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 8: these quarterback cornerbacks stand. I think Newton I love what

1001
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 8: he's about, but just has to get more confident and

1002
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 8: comfortable in man coverage and just his fluidity there. I

1003
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 8: think Wilson can guard guys and run in man coverage

1004
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 8: on third down, but obviously isn't a good enough tackler

1005
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 8: or guy in zone. So it's not a strength. It's

1006
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 8: not where you want to be. But they've got they've

1007
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 8: got I don't even want to call them pieces, but

1008
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 8: they've got enough pieces to with stand benching Cam. One

1009
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 8: more thing about Cam. I want to say this too.

1010
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 8: Cam was inactive often. Do you know who Jordan Jefferson.

1011
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 7: Is I do he's on the Bengals?

1012
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 8: He was inactive or excuse me, he was active? Yeah,

1013
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 8: Jordan Jefferson's. He was their fifth string nosed tackle who

1014
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 8: is active, who played zero snaps as a tense defensive

1015
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 8: lineman did not need to be active. They made a

1016
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 8: point to make Cam inactive. They could have used that

1017
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 8: depth and more corner than defensive tack You don't carry.

1018
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: Five defensive tackles, right.

1019
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 8: The fact that they carried Jordan's showed me how much

1020
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 8: in the doghouse Cam was.

1021
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's directly sending a message to

1022
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor Britt, like to to try to wake him up,

1023
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: or or like, how do you interpret that move and

1024
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: the communication the Bengals are trying to give to Cam

1025
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: Taylor Britt.

1026
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 8: From a communication standpoint publicly, I mean Cam was very

1027
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 8: short with his answers, and so is Dak Taylor. It's

1028
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 8: extremely short from both of them, so it's not like

1029
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 8: there's been some public message being sent. But how I

1030
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 8: read that is, yes, they were trying to send Cam

1031
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 8: a message that the inconsistency is something we're not going

1032
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 8: to accept a loss of trust and Cam just even

1033
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 8: to the pure man corner and his ability to run

1034
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 8: the place see third and eight, And I mean still

1035
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 8: just a massive loss. Like I know, he's been playing poorly,

1036
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 8: but this was supposed to be one of your best players.

1037
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: Now, the other part of the defense was the tackling.

1038
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to pour cold water over a

1039
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: big Bengals win here, but the tackling has to get better.

1040
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: Why are they so bad at that?

1041
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 8: It's funny they were good for a month because they

1042
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 8: were fine for the first month. Zach Taylor was just

1043
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 8: his answer to that question just now is youth. And yes,

1044
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 8: you know to their worst tacklers are Bark Carter and

1045
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 8: Demetrius Knight in terms of what we've seen, and Jordan

1046
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 8: Battle's been volleyball. I guess this is just a part

1047
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 8: of the plan of rebuilding the defense, which makes you

1048
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 8: wonder why they were so passive and conservative with that

1049
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 8: plan in the first place, when they had and planned

1050
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 8: to have Joe Burrow and those high expectations for what

1051
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 8: this season could be entering the season. I think that's

1052
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 8: probably right. I think it is, use I don't like

1053
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 8: that you want your defense to be farther along for

1054
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 8: a team that should be thinking more highly of itself.

1055
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 8: There's just a lot of good old fashioned coaching and

1056
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 8: player developments that has to happen now, like they you know,

1057
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 8: situations and techniques and recognizing keys, and there's just a

1058
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 8: lot of coaching that needs to happen right now because

1059
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 8: they're not there yet and it's going to be vulnerable.

1060
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 8: And aside from DJ Turner in some moments from dat

1061
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 8: till the playmakers haven't emerged and they need Trey Henderson back,

1062
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 8: and there's way more questions than answer is still with

1063
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 8: this defense.

1064
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: To get back to maybe some of the more positive

1065
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: things from what happened last night, What was your favorite

1066
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: play of the game, Because there's a few I feel

1067
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: like you could go to and sliding down Andre Joseavash,

1068
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: the long run by Chase Brown, DJ Turner's interception. When

1069
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: you think of that game, what stands out as your

1070
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: favorite play from last night?

1071
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 8: I'm a nerd, so it's the under center drop back

1072
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 8: to Tea for a touchdown. But I'll give you a

1073
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 8: better answer that I was talking about earlier, because they

1074
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 8: never do it, I'm gonna go with I'm calling it

1075
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 8: the bibble head. I don't know why, but Chase bobbles it,

1076
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 8: he turns, and Patty's in. It was one of the

1077
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 8: coolest things I've ever seen on a football field. I'll

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00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 8: throw DJ Turner's picking there as well. Just moments where

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 8: guys are just so instinctually athletic and talented and good

1080
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 8: that coaching almost doesn't even matter. Like those are my

1081
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 8: favorite moments in any sport, and Chase his bobble spin

1082
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 8: and DJ's pick were perfect examples of that.

1083
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, just an I believe.

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: Paul Dayner described it as an absurd skill set that

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00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase has to be able to do that sort

1086
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: of stuff. The T Higgins slide, obviously, as an unselfish play,

1087
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: puts the team first. What does that say to you

1088
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: about t Higgins and maybe about the mindset of the

1089
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: team as a whole, for in that moment to think

1090
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 2: like that and make that play.

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 8: We talked about this in August, like more than the

1093
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 8: slow start narrative, The real thing was that the Bengals

1094
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 8: were terrible at closing games in twenty twenty four, and

1095
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 8: they spent a lot of time on that in the

1096
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 8: off studies, research and analysis, steep dives, and you saw

1097
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 8: the flip side of the coin of the Baltimore home

1098
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 8: game known as the run, run, run, long kick, Rico

1099
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 8: drops snap, Bengals lose moment where they took a shot

1100
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 8: on second down. Now they also took a shot very

1101
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 8: similar to the Denver game in Week seventeen. But then

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 8: when they got down near the goal line, they did

1103
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 8: a run and and Chase Brown got hurt, so the

1104
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 8: time out got called and that changed the play clock

1105
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 8: situation and that left too much time for Denver and

1106
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 8: the game goes overtime. This time, they didn't do that

1107
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 8: first down run. They just went neil Neil, neil, their

1108
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 8: research and their analysis and their studies and all that

1109
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 8: kind of stuff. Against the Giants last year, they didn't

1110
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 8: tell Chase Brown to slide, he doesn't, and the Giants

1111
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 8: get the ball back when they shouldn't have. Like there

1112
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 8: were there were these moments where they failed situationally last year,

1113
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 8: and those are three right there. You saw the Bengals

1114
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 8: do the right thing yesterday, and that is that.

1115
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: Is a good job.

1116
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again I think that goes towards Zach Taylor

1117
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: and having them prepared, especially to not like when things unraveled,

1118
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: you know, one penalty didn't turn into three or one

1119
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: or two drops didn't turn into five drops and all

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00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: that and overall, do you feel like that was a

1121
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: game and you talked about the significance of the win,

1122
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: Like going back to that game against San Francisco, do

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00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: you feel like it was one for Zach Taylor to

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00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: kind of take a deep breath and for maybe the

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Speaker 2: entire team to just relax a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's funny, like that San Francisco game, they rode

1127
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 8: off that high for like a year and a half. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 8: the amount of time that heard like remember the San

1129
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 8: Francisco game, And eventually that runs thin. And obviously now

1130
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 8: we're way past the point where that had any relevance

1131
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 8: for these Bengals. What were the examples of this team

1132
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 8: proving it could be a good team in a meaningful

1133
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 8: game and have that sort of life. Well, now the

1134
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 8: Bengals feel like they're better than the best team in

1135
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 8: their division, and they have an easier schedule, and I

1136
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 8: can tell you there are a lot of guys in

1137
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 8: there who feel pretty good about the Bengals chances now,

1138
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 8: whether or not those are realistic and whether or not

1139
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 8: the defense is good enough for that to matter. We've

1140
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 8: got like eleven more weeks to sort all that out.

1141
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 8: But a game like that can carry you for a while,

1142
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 8: you know, when it's Sunday and you've lost too straight

1143
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 8: and you're facing the I'm just making this up the Patriots. Hey,

1144
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 8: you know, remember that way we played against the Steelers, Like,

1145
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 8: let's get that like that kind of stuff matters because

1146
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 8: the Bengals hadn't had one of those types of games

1147
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 8: in like two years, and they had one on Sunday,

1148
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 8: and that that gives you culture that you believe in.

1149
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 10: Now.

1150
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 2: I know you're a big basketball fan, and I can't

1151
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: get over this found out yesterday according to Chris Collinsworth,

1152
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: apparently that Michael Jordan grew up a Bengals fan. Now,

1153
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: I would expect you to do a deep dive on

1154
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: this because of your NBA connections and obviously being a

1155
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: big Michael Jordan fan like yourself. Is what's your reaction

1156
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: to here? I can't stop thinking about it. Michael Jordan

1157
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: Bengals fan.

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01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 8: The big takeaway from me is, and I know Michael

1159
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 8: Jordan's quote unquote working for NBC. I don't believe that.

1160
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 8: I'm sure he's getting a check in helping out with

1161
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 8: some But what is this Michael Jordan Chris collins Worth

1162
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 8: connection is my real question. Has Chris started to mentor

1163
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 8: Michael as a broadcaster that would be interesting. Did they

1164
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 8: have a couple of conversations, did they have a passing interaction.

1165
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 8: I'd like to know the extent of this Chris collins

1166
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 8: with Michael Jordan relationship.

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01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: That's a great that's you know, That's why we have

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 2: you around, Charlie. That curiosity is what makes you so great.

1169
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: All right, Many bye week for the football team. Many

1170
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: bye week for Charlie Goldsmith. What are you going to

1171
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 2: get into?

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01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 7: Man?

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01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: You got your plans for the MANI bye?

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01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 15: I don't know.

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01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 8: I guess we'll see. We'll see what I We'll see

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01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 8: what I come up with.

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01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: All right, Charlie, thanks for the time, man, have a

1178
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: great weekend.

1179
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 7: See it.

1180
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: That is Charlie Goldsmith. Charlie's chalkboard, Charlie g underscore underscore

1181
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: Fox Nineteens coverage as well. Good to talk to Charlie.

1182
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: He did mention that Zach Taylor just spoke. He did,

1183
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: We'll have some of that for you in the final hour,

1184
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: and of course Bengals pep rally coming up three to

1185
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: six this afternoon as well. But when we come back,

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Speaker 2: it is the Friday Football Frenzy edition of Talkbacks right

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Speaker 2: here on the Home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 21: Let me hear you good loud, Oh world, oh too, Ohfrey,

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Speaker 21: Let's listen to some talk backs.

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Speaker 2: We listen to the Clouds.

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: Get me a budant sprout Jukes.

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Speaker 22: We hope those other two divert come back over the

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01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 22: room fo.

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Speaker 23: Totally all.

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Speaker 2: Offhing comes close to the show.

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Speaker 22: We got hack right, Hello the stars over talk back show, rads,

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Speaker 22: Weld rats.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, the Reds didn't win, but I figured we

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Speaker 2: might as well bring Harry in because it's you know,

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Speaker 2: good Friday vibes. It is a victory Friday. So you

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01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: know what, let's go with Harry. Let's use him for

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: the talkback intro. It's time for talkbacks right here on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Let's not waste any time. Let's get started.

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Speaker 24: Bengals win always makes a weekend better, especially over Steelers flat.

1205
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 24: If you were running Wild and New Day Nation, Jamia

1206
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 24: Chase goes off Chase Brown finally gets going Tee Higgins.

1207
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 24: Such a smart move to get down there to defense. Well,

1208
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 24: that's the defense. DJ Turner paid this man. Now, it's

1209
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 24: what we're gonna cost you more later. Take care of

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01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 24: everybody and always remember, oh dude day.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I don't know if I'm ready to pay DJ

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: Turner yet, but I guess that's that's kind of the

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01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: way to do it, right. Get it on the ship early.

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01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 7: Hey you Austin Marcus from the groove.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Marcus?

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Speaker 25: Bengals win, Baby.

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Speaker 11: Flacco.

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Speaker 13: The way he's looked in the second half of last week,

1219
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 13: the way he did today this season is far from

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Speaker 13: over come on.

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Speaker 7: We've got this.

1222
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 13: Get us the five wins before Burrow comes back against

1223
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 13: Miami and we're in the playoffs.

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: Baby who Day? Okay, all right, I'm with you, Marcus.

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 24: Hey, Whoda Nation.

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 26: I'm still happy about that win this morning, still celebrating it.

1227
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 26: Maybe not catch strutting there like Ronnie ron but I'm

1228
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 26: still strutting about it. Nonetheless, Zach Taylor, do not touch

1229
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 26: his starting off at the line combination. It's worked pretty

1230
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 26: well the last couple of weeks. You got the run

1231
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 26: attack going this week against a good Steelers defense. Blacko's

1232
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 26: been pretty clean. Risonor seems to be helping Orlando Brown

1233
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 26: out pretty good on that side.

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Speaker 2: It's good. That's a good point from Kevin right there.

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Speaker 2: I did think it was interesting the way Charlie answered

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: that question that basically it was that they didn't have

1237
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: any practices together in short week and just kind of

1238
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: stick with the same group that was there last week.

1239
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: So maybe there's something to that. Maybe they catch lightning

1240
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: in a bottle. We'll see, But yeah, I think that's

1241
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: an interesting little side, you know, storyline that the way

1242
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: that they've played the last couple of weeks.

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 27: Uniform number sixteen, Joe Montana fly Go, he looked like

1244
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 27: plus he shows some Wheelborough isms, Trapball Burgaday.

1245
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: That's right. Good to hear from you, Jeff. Yeah, he

1246
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: kind of played like Montana last night.

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01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 28: Happy Friday, Audie. I was a little off of my prediction.

1248
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 28: I still gotta win, though, I's rppy about that, And

1249
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 28: you were right. They stumbled and bubbled into a good

1250
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 28: running game. Finally, it's about time busted off a couple

1251
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 28: of big runs twenty something yarder and a thirty something yarder.

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01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 28: Let's hope this is the the way that things are

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01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 28: going to go in the future.

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Speaker 2: Hood Amen, who feen day whoa.

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Speaker 25: When that game began last night, I thought they were

1256
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 25: in no way in hades they were going to win it.

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 25: But Joe Cool and Jamar Chase and Ti Higgins came through, baby,

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01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 25: And does it kind of make you wonder is the

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 25: reason that Joe Burrow is so good is because he

1260
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 25: has all those weapons?

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Speaker 11: I mean, look at Joe Flacco last night.

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Speaker 7: So who dai, let's keep it going.

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01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're talking about a little bit on

1264
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: the postgame show last night. I mean go back to

1265
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: like twenty fifteen, maybe the last time Joe Flacco had

1266
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: weapons even in this realm, and that's when Steve Smith

1267
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: was with the fount or with the Ravens. I believe

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: Tory Smith was there as well. Like there were some

1269
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: good players then, but yeah, with this group, pretty amazing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 29: So I have it from my sources, all of them unreliable,

1272
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 29: that Flacco was calling coverage, protection, changes, was calling audibles

1273
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 29: to runs, all things that maybe Burrow hasn't done in

1274
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Speaker 29: the past.

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Speaker 2: One do you think that's true to why hasn't Burrow

1276
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: done that? No, I don't think that's true at all.

1277
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: I thought Flacco operated the offense very similar to the

1278
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: way Joe Burrow operates the offense. And we're not going

1279
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: to do this. We're not going to do this whole

1280
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: narrative thing that Joe Flacco runs the offense better than

1281
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow because a bunch of people wanted to say

1282
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: that about Jake Browning and he fell on his face

1283
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: for three weeks in a row. No, just these they

1284
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 2: can both be good, like you don't have to tear

1285
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: one down to build another one up. Joe Burrow last

1286
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: year put together the single best season in the history

1287
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: of this Bengals franchise, and if not for a few

1288
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: freak plays, would have been in the playoffs and would

1289
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: have had a chance. And these injuries have all been

1290
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 2: freak injuries as well. The offense looked better than it

1291
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 2: has the last few weeks because Jake Browning was terrible.

1292
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: He was not any good. And I have no doubt

1293
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: in my mind that Joe Burrow would have put a

1294
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 2: similar performance together if he were on the field and

1295
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: fully healthy, no doubt in my mind.

1296
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 7: What's up? Also, this is Joe and Baltimore up Joe,

1297
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 7: the Bengals are one and oh.

1298
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,480
Speaker 6: Since we found out Michael Jordan as a fan, yep, coincidence.

1299
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: I think not uh loses.

1300
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: Joe. I like the way you think just I mean,

1301
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: how about the Michael Jordan Probably right now he's at

1302
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 2: his house on Lake Norman in North Carolina, probably smoking

1303
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: a Victory Monday cigar, probably listening to Sincy three sixty,

1304
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: just dialing up Joe Flacco highlights. Michael Jordan's just like us.

1305
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 30: Hey, I just want to get on here and say

1306
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 30: that I was gonna start a GoFundMe for DJ Turner.

1307
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 30: I heard he got picked up by the CPD last

1308
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 30: night on pickpocketing charges.

1309
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 11: A Jalen Ramsey man.

1310
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 30: Then boys put him in the toaster for a little

1311
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 30: two longs Uh just turned him into straight Burt toast man.

1312
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: I'm here for every bit of that.

1313
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1314
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 30: You talk about not liking somebody for no reason. He's well,

1315
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 30: maybe we do have a reason, But that guy I

1316
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 30: just root on his downfall every single time I see

1317
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 30: him play.

1318
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jalen Ramsey is a demonstrative guy. He's uh, it's

1319
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: he certainly can elicit some emotions from time to time.

1320
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, the way that he uh, the way

1321
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: that the Bengals kind of picked on him, that was

1322
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: fun to watch. He did make that one really good

1323
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 2: play down on the goal line on t Higgins and

1324
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: batting that ball away. But for the most part, it's

1325
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 2: always a battle with Jayalen Rams. It was fun to watch, Audie.

1326
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 12: You are a rock starting that post game show in

1327
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 12: the morning.

1328
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1329
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 31: I'm not working to that. That was a crazy night.

1330
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 31: So I'm kind of thinking that Joe Flacco being on this.

1331
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 12: Team, it's gonna be good for our boy Joe Burrow.

1332
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 31: Just somebody with the experience and longevity.

1333
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that's a good observation. I

1334
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: was thinking something about that too, is is you know,

1335
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: in the past, Joe has always been this great quarterback

1336
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 2: with levels of fame that he can't really relate to

1337
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: his other quarterbacks can't really relate to a Brain Allen

1338
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 2: or a Ryan Finley or a Jake Browning, and Joe

1339
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: Flacco is kind of the opposite, you know, where Burrow

1340
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: is the leader in the room and the old man

1341
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 2: in the room and the guy who basically has been

1342
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: around the block. Well, Flacco can now be that in

1343
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: the quarterback room. And I just think that overall presence,

1344
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: that calming leadership that he can bring. I think it's

1345
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: already worth the Bengals considering keeping him around next year

1346
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 2: if he still wants to play, because more than anything,

1347
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: like if you can just be helpful to Joe Burrow

1348
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: and take some of that stuff off his plate and

1349
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: in a way of just having that leadership and that

1350
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: calming presence in the room where it's like, Okay, Joe

1351
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: Flacco is here to help me, Joe can help me

1352
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. Like, I think he can have

1353
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: a positive impact on Joe Burrow. And I think we

1354
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: all agree we kind of were worried about Joe Burrow.

1355
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: And we saw the first shot of him last night,

1356
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: the way that hair was looking in the expression on

1357
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: his face. I was a little worried about Joe.

1358
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 18: Addie George from the valley actually from Btown, Bendelli, you

1359
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 18: know where that is.

1360
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 8: Last night was awesome of Jungle was rocking. I loved

1361
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 8: how little amount of yellow I saw in the stands

1362
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 8: as you looked around the stadium.

1363
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 7: It was beautiful.

1364
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 8: You know.

1365
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 32: Joe Flacco, he said, you know what, I forget all

1366
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 32: I got just to the ball up to Chase and

1367
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 32: guess who catches his Chase.

1368
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 7: I mean, what a novel concept that is.

1369
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 4: Who day?

1370
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 18: That was one of the best games I've ever been

1371
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 18: at Broe have a good.

1372
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: Day, man, Thank you, George. I appreciate that, George. Of course.

1373
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: In Vandelio, Home of the Aviators and the Sack the

1374
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: Student Activity Center. Yeah, you know, Kirk kirk Street and

1375
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: Al Michaels made a point to say, you know, there's

1376
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: not that many Steelers fans here tonight, So maybe every

1377
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: time the Steelers come, if they just play on a

1378
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: Thursday night, that'd be great.

1379
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 3: Happy Friday already.

1380
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 7: Twin from the Heights.

1381
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 33: Last night's game, I'm telling you the best NFL game

1382
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 33: I've seen by far all year long. AFC North battle

1383
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 33: with two of the oldest quarterbacks in the NFL. A

1384
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 33: you couldn't be surprised it was gonna be a duel,

1385
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 33: but the Mingos prevailed. Old line actually did a job running.

1386
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 33: Game was on point and Jamara Chase Man, oh man,

1387
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 33: it's pretty good wide receiver in the league.

1388
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 7: By four.

1389
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty good. And uh, I'm drinking the Bengals

1390
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: kool aid right now. Sounds like Twan is two. Let's

1391
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: go okay. Happy for the Bengals fans. Here we go

1392
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: Jemmie for Joe Flacco. Happy to all our receivers. They

1393
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: actually have someone experienced throwing to them. But art the

1394
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: defense man are tackling. It seems like when one of

1395
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: our secondary guys comes into tackle, they like tackle and

1396
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: then go off to the side.

1397
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 7: They don't run through people and get them to the ground.

1398
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 7: It's basic tackling. Man.

1399
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is a legitimate gripe. I feel you,

1400
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: and I've said it multiple times now. If you tackle

1401
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: like that, you will get beat against the Jets in

1402
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: the period, point blank and it has to get cleaned up.

1403
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 2: And as Charlie said that, the idea that they're just youth,

1404
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: it's just young young players not being able to tackle,

1405
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 2: that's not a good enough excuse.

1406
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 31: Happy winning Friday body Geno Stone.

1407
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy is horrible, not a good player.

1408
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 31: Do they not have anyone else that can play safety?

1409
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: Not really.

1410
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 31: He got burnt, he got singed, and he looks hurt.

1411
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 31: Let me know what you think.

1412
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very great weekend. It's very boom or

1413
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: bust with Gino Stones. Sometimes it's like, all right, that

1414
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: I can see the vision, and other times it's like

1415
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: has he played football before? And it's just a very

1416
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: inconsistent player that I don't know that he fully trusts

1417
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: the guy next to him. In Jordan Battle, I don't

1418
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 2: know that the communication there is at the level it's

1419
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: supposed to be. And obviously, you know the the dismemberment

1420
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: of the corners in front of him outside to DJ Turner,

1421
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, BRIT's there sometimes, and Josh Newton's there sometimes,

1422
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: and DJ Ivy was out there at one point, and

1423
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: then it's Marco Wilson. You know, just the the continuity

1424
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: of the defense in and of itself I think leads

1425
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: to some of those mistakes. But Genostone's a poor tackler.

1426
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: He's often out of position, he doesn't have great closing

1427
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: speed or range, and so I'm not a big fan

1428
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: of Genostone right now. But I don't know that that

1429
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 2: if you go to Tyson Anderson or Dejon Anthony that

1430
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: you're gonna see that sort of difference right away or else.

1431
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't the Bengals do what they did with Barrett

1432
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: Carter or with or like like Benching Logan Wilson or Benching,

1433
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor Britt or any of those guys, Dylan Fairchild,

1434
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 2: whoever it might be. Why wouldn't they like so clearly

1435
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 2: there's something about Genostone that they like or that they trust,

1436
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: and maybe something about those other guys that they don't.

1437
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 8: Thing I have an answer.

1438
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 14: I'm really wondering. These guys that are on the Bengals

1439
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 14: have played football as soon from pee on through high

1440
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 14: schooling to college as as the pros. How is it

1441
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 14: at this point they don't know how to tackle? Don't

1442
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 14: they tell you to wrap your arms around the guy

1443
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 14: and take it down. They seem to want to just

1444
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 14: run into them and hope they fall. Why don't they

1445
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 14: they have to tackle at this point.

1446
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point.

1447
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 10: Ray.

1448
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: I think sometimes there's a little bit too much emphasis

1449
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: put on trying to dislodge the ball and trying to

1450
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: create turnovers, and I get it, there's a place for that,

1451
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: but at the same time, you got to prevent them

1452
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: from getting extra yard. It's prevent staying ahead of the sticks,

1453
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: prevent consistent first downs, and sometimes that means wrapping up

1454
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: and taking the conservative play. The same thing can be

1455
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: said about you know t Higgins catching the deep ball

1456
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: and sliding. Yeah, he could have scored a touchdown that

1457
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: could have benefited the Bengals. It could have been a

1458
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 2: great moment. But all so, the long play here is

1459
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: let's drain the clock, kick the field goal and win

1460
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: the game instead of You know, when you apply that

1461
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: to tackling, it's like, yes, if I hit this dude

1462
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 2: really hard and I get my helmet on the ball

1463
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: or I punch, we can get a turnover, we can

1464
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 2: get the ball, we can go the other way. But

1465
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: if I miss, he gets seven extra yards and all

1466
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 2: of a sudden they're in field goal range, or they

1467
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: pick up a first down to drain the clock, or

1468
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: whatever might happen. Is nobody near me to make the

1469
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: tackle to help me out. There's not a good enough

1470
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: or consistent enough approach from the Bengals tackling, and I

1471
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 2: don't understand. There's no excuse for it.

1472
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 34: It's the Lord happy Victory Friday talkback nation. You know,

1473
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 34: those Bengal night games are a killer. It's like eating

1474
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 34: Skyline chili or white castles. It's good going down, but

1475
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 34: the next day is a killer.

1476
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: I disagree with you, man. The next day after reading

1477
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: some skyline chili, this is normally a beautiful.

1478
01:17:58,760 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: Day for me.

1479
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 35: What I heard from Flaco was that was a Taylor's

1480
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 35: call for the bootleg. It's just when Jamar didn't go

1481
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 35: where he was supposed to go. That's when Flacco said, well,

1482
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 35: I'm going to run it anyway. Zach called a great game.

1483
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 35: I don't know what we do now, because I was

1484
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 35: with you and I was ready for him to go.

1485
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1486
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, honestly, if they came out and

1487
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: embarrassed themselves again this week and were flat on their face,

1488
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: there was a chance Zach would be let go. And

1489
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: I thought that prior to the Flacco acquisition, and then

1490
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: once they traded for Flacco, I thought, Okay, maybe there's

1491
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: a bigger grace period here than I thought, and trading

1492
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: for Flacco will create that. And I do think that's true.

1493
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: And the way that they've performed, Zach has definitely bought

1494
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: himself some time. But all that progress can be lost

1495
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: if you don't beat the New York Jets. I was

1496
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: so nervous that whole game, man, I had heart palpitation.

1497
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 31: But wow, what a game.

1498
01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: I have a Questionnati.

1499
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 5: So when Flacco has been playing second half of Green

1500
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 5: Bay and then the game yesterday, it seems like the

1501
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 5: offensive line protects him better.

1502
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: It just seems like Flacco is not getting pressured. Is

1503
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: it something that.

1504
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 17: He's doing because it doesn't seem that way when Joe

1505
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 17: Burrow's out there.

1506
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: So what's the difference. Well, I think the biggest thing

1507
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: is that Joe Flacco gets the ball out of his

1508
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: hand quicker than Jake Browning or Joe Burrow did. And

1509
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 2: part of what makes Burrow great is that ability to create,

1510
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: is that ability to extend plays, is that ability ability

1511
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: to go off script. So you don't want to completely

1512
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: eliminate that from Joe's bag of tricks to be able

1513
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: to do it. However, sometimes it can get him into trouble,

1514
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: It can lead to the offense being off script. It

1515
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: can create some issues with Jake Browning in and of itself.

1516
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: He just held on to the ball too long and

1517
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: didn't have the confidence to fit it into that tight

1518
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: window and all that. So it's a little bit of

1519
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: that just in general, getting the ball out quickly. And

1520
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: then secondly, the game plan specifically for Pittsburgh, I thought

1521
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 2: was what it's supposed to look like most of the time,

1522
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 2: more RPOs, more bubbles, put the defense in a predicament

1523
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: and make them choose, and then you attack whatever the

1524
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: opposite is that they choose. Like a lot of those RPOs.

1525
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: It gets the ball out quickly to Jamar Chase. It's

1526
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: those quick slants, it's those timing one two, three throw

1527
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: get them to the out route like These are all

1528
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: staples of the Bengals offense that I think need to

1529
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: just be a bigger part of the game plan as

1530
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 2: a whole. These are the things I've been asking for.

1531
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: They tried a couple screen passes. Those didn't work. There's

1532
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: some data right now on screen passes that are suggesting

1533
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: they're becoming less and less effective because they've become so common.

1534
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother story, But overall, it is getting

1535
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: the ball out quickly. I think Flacco knows he's not mobile,

1536
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 2: and if he sits back there and doesn't get rid

1537
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: of it, he's going to be a sitting duck. Burrow

1538
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: and even Browning know they have the ability to make

1539
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: some guys miss, and they're willing to risk it or

1540
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 2: stay in that pocket just a little bit longer so

1541
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 2: that they can make that throw or get to that

1542
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: extra read or check that ball down, whatever it might be.

1543
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 2: So it's just it's very fractional, you know, marginal differences

1544
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: between the two and the way they play the position.

1545
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 36: Audie TJ my Son called from college Wednesday night, Dad,

1546
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 36: I need a tight end this weekend. Son, pick any

1547
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 36: tight end from Pittsburgh. The Bengals have not stopped his

1548
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 36: Dealers tight end in thirty years. All throw Zach as

1549
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 36: flowers for week seven.

1550
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,879
Speaker 7: He finally looked competent.

1551
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 36: We'd be four and three right now if you could

1552
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 36: scheme like he did last night for Jake Brown and

1553
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 36: quick slam short ends.

1554
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: That's one game, Zach.

1555
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 36: He's still behind the sticks minus the lem me stick,

1556
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 36: one arm mountain, try to tackle. That was a fun

1557
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 36: game to watch, especially not seeing all those stupid yellow towels.

1558
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a lot of yellow towels and also not

1559
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,440
Speaker 2: a lot of yellow penalty flags. It was a relatively

1560
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 2: clean game from that sense. Bengals had a couple of mistakes,

1561
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,879
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh got docked for a couple of pis that were important.

1562
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 30: So yeah, hi, AUTI, this is Richard from Evendale, and

1563
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 30: I say that I love Joe Flacco.

1564
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 11: I was at the game last night and I was

1565
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 11: channing Joe elite.

1566
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 3: I think that Joe Flacco is elite. Donald Trump thinks

1567
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: that Joe Flacco is elite.

1568
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 24: Oh wow.

1569
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 31: I love all Mike Sinz QBS.

1570
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 11: I love Joe Burrow, I love Tony Pike, missing Man.

1571
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 11: Love you see your Friday night There you go?

1572
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh, I always forget. There's a video from

1573
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. I think when Trump started his first campaign,

1574
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: he was doing like a Q and A on Twitter,

1575
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: and I think it was PFT commenter from Barstool asked

1576
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: him is Joe Flacco an elite quarterback? And it was

1577
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: one of the questions that Trump answered. And I saw

1578
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: that video popping back up again last night about Trump

1579
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: saying that he's an elite quarterback. So funny the memory

1580
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: on the internet.

1581
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 37: Hey Austin, it's the common toughback matters guy. But I

1582
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 37: just want to first of all, I have had a

1583
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 37: chance to say, I miss Tony, but I think that

1584
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 37: you're gonna do an incredible job. Even though sometimes I

1585
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 37: don't agree with like ninety nine percent of the stuff

1586
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 37: you do, you're still really you're dedicated to your job

1587
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 37: and we appreciate that. And the Bengals they played a

1588
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 37: hell of a game last night, all the way around.

1589
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: Have a great weekend.

1590
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 7: Well, thank you.

1591
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. It's very kind of you. And uh yeah,

1592
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: how can you not be pleased with what happened? Obviously

1593
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: the tackling is an issue, But find a way to

1594
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: win a game like that, huge.

1595
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 38: Let me be the first to offer twenty dollars to

1596
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 38: build a Joe Flacco statue outside a.

1597
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: Paycorep Okay, all right, we can get that gone, little

1598
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco statue action. All right, I'm alright with that.

1599
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break, let's come back. Phone

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Speaker 2: line still open. Five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

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01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. This is what it sounds, Ynny.

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 5: Grunts you in part by blood Light and by Greens

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01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 5: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals, a.

1604
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: Very quick version of football in the Natty. To get

1605
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: me back on the clock here, then we'll wrap up

1606
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: hour number two with a couple of phone calls. Quickly,

1607
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: go over the stats once again. Joe Flacco thirty one

1608
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: of forty seven, three hundred and forty two yards three touchdowns.

1609
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: Last night, as we've talked about, the offensive line performed well,

1610
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: sacking him or allowing him to be sacked just twice

1611
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 2: for fourteen yards. Chase Brown eleven carries for one hundred

1612
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 2: and eight yards, Smaj p ryand seven for thirty one.

1613
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: As a team, Bengals ran at twenty three times for

1614
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: a buck forty two. Jamar Chase sets a Bengals franchise record,

1615
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 2: breaks his own record for receptions in the game with sixteen,

1616
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: had one hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown.

1617
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: He was targeted twenty three times. T Higgins five catches

1618
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: or excuse me, six catches ninety six yards on ten targets.

1619
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: Andre Yoshavash had a big catch a thirty seven yarder.

1620
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: He had three total for forty nine. Noah Fan with

1621
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: a twenty five yarder had four for forty four, and

1622
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: Chase Brown, as I mentioned, had those difficult screen passes.

1623
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: He had two catches for minus eight yards. Barrett Carter

1624
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 2: led the Bengals and tackles. He had eight solo tackles

1625
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: twelve total. Geno Stone had three solo, Jordan Battle had

1626
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: three solo, Demetrius Knight just two solo tackles, four total

1627
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: tackles on the night, two interceptions. Jordan Battle, DJ Turner.

1628
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: Evan McPherson was a perfect four for four, including a

1629
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: game winner. He also blasted a forty nine yarder and

1630
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: was three for three from the extra points, and as

1631
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: a whole, scored fifteen points on the night for the Bengals.

1632
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll

1633
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,799
Speaker 2: wrap up our two with phone calls next on ESPN

1634
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

1635
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 5: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

1636
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati BENGALSKY.

1637
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 16: Cincinnati since he three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty,

1638
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 16: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1639
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: Wrapping up our two on a victory Friday football frenzy

1640
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 2: Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore. In ten minutes,

1641
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Tommy g for a brief update on FC Cincinnati. We'll

1642
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: talk to him as they get set to finish out

1643
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: their regular season, but we continue the Bengals conversation until then.

1644
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dent and talk to Robert.

1645
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 39: What's up, Robert, Hey, Austin, thanks for working overtime to

1646
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 39: bring home a win and chopping it up today.

1647
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 11: Man, great job, thank you, thank you man.

1648
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, of course.

1649
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1650
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 39: I just wanted to hit on two or three things

1651
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 39: whatever you got time for The first one I want

1652
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 39: do you pick?

1653
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 7: A good poll question might be.

1654
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 3: Who do we think is going to be here longer?

1655
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 11: Joe Flacco or Zach Taylor.

1656
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, thank you.

1657
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, hopefully both will be here.

1658
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 11: A while longer.

1659
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 39: So yeah, and then I want to ask you about

1660
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 39: the special teams. Last night money Back had fifteen points,

1661
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 39: which is awesome, of course, And I was hearing a

1662
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 39: little bit about return kick returns, but I feel like

1663
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 39: I'm a little more concerned about our kick coverage teams

1664
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 39: than I am our returns teams at this point.

1665
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like there's a lack of speed on

1666
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: that unit and maybe McPherson needs to put a little

1667
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: bit more hang time on those balls. I don't know.

1668
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: It's I think everyone's still at least the Bengals are

1669
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out exactly how they want to

1670
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: approach the kickoff rule. I've never been a big fan

1671
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: of the Bengals special teams. They've never really been an

1672
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 2: elite unit under Darren Simmons, and so, yeah, they're not

1673
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 2: great tacklers, because those guys aren't great tacklers on special

1674
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 2: teams either, But yeah, I mean the field position has

1675
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: been a bit of an issue.

1676
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 7: Gotcha.

1677
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 39: And a quick follow up on yesterday, I asked you

1678
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 39: about the Super Bowl coaches and then usually being early,

1679
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 39: fairly early in their tenures, and you brought a great up,

1680
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 39: great point up about their quarterbacks. So I just looked

1681
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 39: at that again today and I was like, Okay, you know,

1682
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 39: early eighties with Forrest Ken Anderson was here when he

1683
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 39: got here and here when he left, and then Boomer

1684
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 39: and Sam Weiss kind of came in the same time.

1685
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 39: Boomer was here longer, and now of course Joe and Zach.

1686
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 39: But you know, I've been looking at it like that

1687
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 39: was the pinnacle of those first two regimes careers and

1688
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 39: we're just hoping that's.

1689
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Not the case here, right, So hopefully the best is

1690
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: yet to come. Thanks Austin, Yeah, Robert, thank you. I

1691
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 2: appreciate the phone call. Yeah, hopefully the best is you

1692
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 2: have to come. And obviously the Bengals were able to

1693
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: get back to an AFC championship game the second year,

1694
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 2: which I don't think should be forgotten about, and just

1695
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: how hard of a feat that is. I mean, obviously

1696
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't count, but I don't think we

1697
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: should just totally brush that aside. Let's go to Mike

1698
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: in LA to wrap up hour number two. What's up, Mike?

1699
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 10: Oh? Thank you?

1700
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1701
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 10: I didn't get to hear your show last night. I

1702
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 10: was a bit out of it. From the old morpheme, yeah,

1703
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 10: ain't a bad to me. That's a good good drug.

1704
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 10: It helps when I So I watched the h I

1705
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 10: kept going back between the Dodger game and the Mariner

1706
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 10: game and the Bengals game. I was joining myself nuts

1707
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 10: and but it appeared to me DJ, he didn't DJ.

1708
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 10: I kind of saved the game with that breakup.

1709
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: He bat at that last hill mary down. Yeah, that

1710
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 2: might have been his only snap of the game.

1711
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1712
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 10: Well, he made it count, didn't he. He made it

1713
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 10: count big time. But Demetrious Night Austin, I ain't no

1714
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 10: good man.

1715
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 2: No he's not. He doesn't play under control like he

1716
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:00,560
Speaker 2: plays fast, but it's not under control, which means he's overrunning,

1717
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, ball carriers he's out of position when it

1718
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 2: comes to tackling. His form is not good. I don't

1719
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: know if he can play fast and under control, and

1720
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: that would be an issue, because if you can't play

1721
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 2: under control, you're just running around, hitting people and doing

1722
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: nothing really, And that's really what Demetrius Knight is doing.

1723
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 10: Like a little kid running around in the house, trying

1724
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 10: to find you, get his mom and dad to play

1725
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 10: with him or something. Get trying to get That's the

1726
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 10: way I picture. But boy, how things can change. Right

1727
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 10: all the hype about the AFC Central before the season

1728
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 10: and now it's not looking so good. It's crazy, isn't it?

1729
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 10: How this league has went. I'll tell you twenty twenty

1730
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 10: four the chalk the favorites dominated as far as a

1731
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 10: wagering perspective. This year, the dogs are are dominating. It's

1732
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 10: it's crazy. It's almost a fifty percent difference. And it's

1733
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 10: great for parity for the league, don't you think.

1734
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very star the league. There's a ton

1735
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 2: of parody and I think it's funny too, is you know?

1736
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 2: Baltimore I think is still like just barely behind Pittsburgh

1737
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: as the betting favorite to win the AFC North. I

1738
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 2: think Baltimore is like plus one fifty and they're one

1739
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: in five and without Lamar Jackson right now. So that

1740
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: tells you how much they still think of Baltimore on

1741
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: their upcoming schedule. But yeah, it's just a strange year

1742
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 2: to say the least, Baltimore.

1743
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 10: Is gonna If Baltimore loses again this week, they're going

1744
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 10: to have to go on almost too hard to imagine.

1745
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 14: Run.

1746
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 10: I would think, don't you.

1747
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say, okay.

1748
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:41,560
Speaker 10: And real quick, I got to mention my guys, the

1749
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 10: Dodgers finally got healthy, got reasonably healthy now and it's

1750
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 10: really shown, and I wouldn't want to play him right now.

1751
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 10: Their depths is what really puts him over. Max Monty's

1752
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 10: playing turn based like Brook Robinson. I mean, he's turning

1753
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 10: in some great plays even with his beer bellies. Hell

1754
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 10: he does, he does.

1755
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go Yeah, Mike, thank you for the phone call.

1756
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. We'll take a break, we'll come back.

1757
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Tommy g a little FC Cincinnati before

1758
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,839
Speaker 2: we go from We're going to go from football to football,

1759
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: back to football. This is the Friday Football Frenzy on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty at Genesis Time Joe.

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, Welcome in our three victory Friday football frenzy

1769
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 2: here on ESPN fifteen thirty. And that doesn't change what

1770
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: we always do on Fridays, which is talk to our guy,

1771
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 2: Tommy G. The voice of the Orange and Blue FC Cincinnati.

1772
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Getting set to wrap up the regular season coming up

1773
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 2: this weekend. We're gonna talk to Tommy about that. But first,

1774
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: if you've listened to this show for a long time,

1775
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: you know that our guy, Tommy G is a lifelong

1776
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns fan, grew up in Cleveland, and Tommy, I

1777
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 2: just want to be the first to tell you on

1778
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 2: behalf of all Bengals fans.

1779
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 23: Thank you for Joe Flacco, you are so welcome off

1780
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 23: and what is up my guy? Happy Friday? Look at

1781
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 23: this life is beautiful as than not. The leeds are

1782
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 23: starting to change colors. The sun is shining upon the

1783
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 23: Queen City Bengals fans are all wound up thanks to

1784
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 23: my boy Joey Flacco. And it's three hundred yards a

1785
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 23: couple of touchdowns along the way FC Cincinnati Max and

1786
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 23: I'm thirty four.

1787
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 4: I don't know what else you get asked for.

1788
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 7: Right now, you and I we are here. Let's get

1789
01:33:59,000 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 7: to it.

1790
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 2: What if you been doing for the last couple of weeks.

1791
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: I know it's been an international break? How do you

1792
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 2: stay sharp during that? Do you just start calling your

1793
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 2: kids baseball games or soccer games?

1794
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: Like?

1795
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 2: How do you stay sharp?

1796
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 7: Everything?

1797
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 3: Everything?

1798
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 23: I'm calling games, I'm watching, you know, Australian fourth Division

1799
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 23: soccer games. Just trying to keep my brain sharp, trying

1800
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 23: to you know, relax a little bit on the weekend. Actually,

1801
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 23: I went to of all places, I got to go

1802
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 23: to Lovely Toledo, Ohio last weekend on my off weekend

1803
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 23: for the JV water.

1804
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 11: Polo State championship.

1805
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, for my son. So that was that

1806
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: was interesting. Did you bring like a com rex and

1807
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 2: just set up?

1808
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 8: Oh?

1809
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 11: I took some photos.

1810
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 39: You know.

1811
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 11: I had asked the station if they wanted me to

1812
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 11: do a live broadcast. I didn't get an email back,

1813
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 11: so I don't know. I don't know what happened there.

1814
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 11: Probably just didn't work out.

1815
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 7: But next year.

1816
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 11: But yeah, so no, I've been I've been busy.

1817
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 23: I've been missing you guys obviously, and it's nice everything

1818
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 23: now the stars field line again to be here in

1819
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,520
Speaker 23: this two o'clock slot, that's and talking orange.

1820
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 40: And blue and and Joe Flacco and everything else. You know,

1821
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 40: I knew this was going to be the lead off,

1822
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 40: so I was I was ready for you today. Yeah,

1823
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 40: I mean, I mean I texted you at halftime last night.

1824
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 40: It's like, so two o'clock tomorrow, after the way Joe

1825
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 40: Flacco ended the first half. Okay, did we learn anything

1826
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 40: about FC Cincinnati over the international break? Phyllison, were their injuries,

1827
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 40: were their roster moves? Like I know, Philly won the

1828
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 40: Supporters Shield. What have we learned about f C Cincinnati

1829
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 40: over the last couple of weeks?

1830
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 23: Well that the supporter steals out now honestly with Philadelphia

1831
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 23: winning it. That's not to be played for. But now everybody, finally,

1832
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 23: I mean, for how many weeks or months we had

1833
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 23: these conversations that talked about, well, Miami has six games

1834
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 23: in hand, they five games, and they four games, and

1835
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 23: they got two games, and now we know how things

1836
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 23: play out in the East. A win and f C

1837
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 23: Cincinnati is a two seed, which is nothing to shake

1838
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 23: a stick at by any stretch of the man donation.

1839
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 23: They just can't catch Philadelphia for that one seed. They

1840
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 23: win and Vancouver drop some points and then they are

1841
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 23: ahead of all the teams in the West, which is important.

1842
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 23: If you make MLS Cup, you want that game to

1843
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 23: be across the way over at TQL Stadium and not

1844
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 23: having to travel to Vancouver or anywhere for that matter.

1845
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 23: So we've we've we learned that via the extra games

1846
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 23: that took place during the international break, and Cintanni had

1847
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 23: a lot of guys who were out on break. Unfortunately,

1848
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 23: they had a couple of guys go down. If you

1849
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 23: go back now thirteen days to that New York Red

1850
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 23: Bulls match, if you remember andre At.

1851
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 11: Shamik made a big run.

1852
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 23: He left the match with an apparent injury and has

1853
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 23: been working his way back into the group this week.

1854
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 23: It really was a bummer for him because he got

1855
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 23: caught in the Venezuelan national team. He was supposed to

1856
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 23: join them, he did and then was sent back because

1857
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 23: he wasn't able to go. So really, you know, so

1858
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 23: much disappointment. Now he's a young star and I'm sure

1859
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 23: he'll be called back again, but that's that's really tough

1860
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 23: for him. And then Luga Orsona was a player who

1861
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 23: had come in to replace him. Luca had been working

1862
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 23: his way back from a little bit of hamstring tightness.

1863
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 23: He made a big run and his hamstring acted up.

1864
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 23: So he's been, you know, missing from some training sessions

1865
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 23: this week.

1866
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 8: Uh so you have those guys.

1867
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 23: There's been reports that at that Lucas Tanngle missed some

1868
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 23: training sessions. Man, he's in contention. Uh you know, rightfully,

1869
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 23: so Pat new Clay about who is starting goalkeeper would

1870
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 23: be for this match, you know.

1871
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 11: But great to see that Roman is back healthy again.

1872
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: I think I think we're losing you, Tommy. We've uh

1873
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 2: you might be you might be hitting a dead spot.

1874
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 2: Are you still with me?

1875
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 7: I may have am I am I here?

1876
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 23: I can hear you now to make my way through

1877
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 23: just a little before Jesus I'm in transit.

1878
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 2: That's all right, assuming we can, uh, we can stick

1879
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 2: with this connection finishing up the season and with the

1880
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 2: fan appreciation day tomorrow at TQL Stadium up against Montreal.

1881
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 2: What exactly is FC Cincinnati playing for their seating? Who

1882
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,839
Speaker 2: could they play? Who could they not play? How exactly

1883
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 2: does this work out and what the objective is going

1884
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 2: to be or what should the objective be going up

1885
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: against Montreal tomorrow?

1886
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure.

1887
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 23: I mean you win the game, and as I mentioned earlier,

1888
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 23: you're the two seed, and that means that you'd be

1889
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 23: home for sure in an Eastern Conference semifinal should you

1890
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 23: get there, and the way things are stacking up, it'll

1891
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 23: probably be the two and I mean it would definitely

1892
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 23: be because it's locked inn.

1893
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 11: But the two and three seeds are gonna be Miami

1894
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 11: and Cincinnati. So you got to make sure that you're.

1895
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 23: A head of Miami. You don't want to go down

1896
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 23: into that be high. You want them come into c

1897
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 23: QL Stadium where you beat them earlier this year. So yeah,

1898
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 23: you definitely want to make sure you get the two seed.

1899
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 23: And then when you're looking at opponents. It's kind of

1900
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 23: a toss up. There's probably four different teams that could land,

1901
01:38:57,960 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 23: and it's also going to depend on what seed you are,

1902
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 23: but either way, you're looking at probably the same teams

1903
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 23: as the six and seven seeds. Nashville's in that mix

1904
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 23: right now. It's Orlando, which has been a tough matchup

1905
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 23: for since sure fall that far, I don't expect that

1906
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 23: they will. Columbus could jump up so you can see

1907
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 23: Hell's real for the first round. Chicago could jump up

1908
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 23: in the seventh seeds.

1909
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of.

1910
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 11: Teams that are in content that the seating.

1911
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 7: I mean, there's a lot to play for.

1912
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 11: I liked what Pat ninnen.

1913
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 23: Centator's press conference. Hey, he said, we're not scoreboard watching.

1914
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 23: It's not that they need to win in Philadelphia. Lose

1915
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 23: and they win the supportership, that one's going away. So

1916
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 23: he said, look, we know what we do. If we win,

1917
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 23: then it's taken care of. And you're playing a Montreal

1918
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 23: team and I'm sure we'll talk about it in the moment.

1919
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 23: That's down and they're eliminated from playoff contention, so you

1920
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 23: gotta come out, you gotta punish them.

1921
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 11: You gotta win.

1922
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 23: You gotta get that two seed, and then you'll start

1923
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 23: your scouting report for whomever falls into that seven.

1924
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: So you mentioned that Orlando has been a tough matchup

1925
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 2: for FC Cincinnati historically. Is there any of those group

1926
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 2: of four teams that is a good matchup you feel

1927
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 2: like on paper for the Orange Blue.

1928
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1929
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 23: I've talked to Kevin about this quite a bit the

1930
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 23: last couple of weeks and it came up in the

1931
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 23: office today as I was at training, And I think

1932
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 23: for me it's Nashville and Chicago are probably the two

1933
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 23: best matchups. And I would probably say Nashville over Chicago,

1934
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 23: But yeah, I think those two are best matchups.

1935
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 11: I think Columbus is they have a lot of injuries

1936
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 11: and and had a really bad run of form.

1937
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 23: But man, that would be a one with a you know,

1938
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 23: a brilliant coach at Wilfrid Nancy who always has that

1939
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 23: team for pare you know, so as much as I

1940
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 23: would love it and TV would love but it would

1941
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 23: be terrible for our hearts to go best I think

1942
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 23: with Columbus and and fight that one out. So Orlando

1943
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 23: been a bad matchup, Charlotte's been a bad matchup this

1944
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 23: year in New York City, So I probably don't want.

1945
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 11: To see Orlando new York City and Charlotte, and.

1946
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 23: I want to see Nashville in Chicago, So like, just

1947
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 23: book the Orlando best of three, right how I feel

1948
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 23: it in my.

1949
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Speaker 4: Heart right now?

1950
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Speaker 23: But you know, I mean it was the same in

1951
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 23: New York City last night last year. You know, New

1952
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 23: York has been a tough matchup for this club, and

1953
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 23: and they proved to be that in pulling off that

1954
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 23: upset in the first round. So I don't know, it'd

1955
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 23: be very interesting. And listen, no matter what, like you're

1956
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 23: in the playoffs, you gotta expect tough matchups. You gotta

1957
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 23: expect tough games, and you gotta be ready to advance

1958
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 23: and come up with game plans that allow you to advance.

1959
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 23: So if you can do that, then I think, you know,

1960
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 23: you gotta be at your best, and part of that's

1961
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 23: gonna be getting guys healthy and getting their best available

1962
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 23: players out.

1963
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 11: On the pitch.

1964
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 23: And you know, some of the remains to be seen

1965
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 23: of what that best eleven is and who will be

1966
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 23: ready for the playoffs.

1967
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 11: In the meantime, win your last home game.

1968
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I's gonna say, because you got this

1969
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: game against Montreal and you probably have to find a

1970
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: balance between your gearing up and trying to set a

1971
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 2: tone going into the playoffs, but also trying to get

1972
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: back into the swing of things after not playing a

1973
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: match for a few days. Like, how does Pat Noonan

1974
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 2: plan to balance that and and also set the tone

1975
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 2: in the standard that is FC Cincinnati going into the playoffs.

1976
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it's the best eleven that that he

1977
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 23: has available that he knows can come out and play,

1978
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:30,600
Speaker 23: you know, without any concern of say, reaggravation. Right, Like

1979
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 23: that's what happened to Luke Oreshona. He had a little

1980
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 23: bit of hamstring tightness. He didn't start that game against

1981
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 23: New York. He came in and it got worse. You

1982
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 23: look at Obina Wobbedo and and Roman cell Tano. If

1983
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 23: that's a playoff game two weeks ago, then my guess

1984
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 23: is that Obian and Roman play that game, but they

1985
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 23: felt good about the personnel they had available, so they

1986
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 23: weren't going to push them. And I think that's what

1987
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 23: we'll see in this matchup against rodri Ols, that they're

1988
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 23: not going to push anybody who might be on the

1989
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 23: CUSP being available for that first, you know, game one,

1990
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 23: round one playoff matchup, because they want to make sure

1991
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,720
Speaker 23: they're still available for round one game one in the

1992
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 23: playoffs and that they don't aggravate it in this matchup

1993
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 23: against Montreal. I mean, the beauty of it isn't We

1994
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 23: talked about a weeks ago that this team put a

1995
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 23: lot of work into, you know, create quite a bit

1996
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 23: of depth at every position group and that's going to

1997
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 23: be an advantage in the playoffs. But you got to

1998
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 23: have those guys available in order to have that advantage

1999
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 23: in the depth. So I think that that's how we'll

2000
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 23: see the approach. But yeah, I think Passing canna play

2001
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 23: the best eleven guys that he has suited up tomorrow

2002
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 23: and go for this one and figure out how to

2003
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 23: get to win against the Montreal team that they beat

2004
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 23: in Montreal earlier this year.

2005
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that Montreal is down, they're out, they're

2006
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 2: not going to be in the postseason, but I'm sure

2007
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 2: they're trying to finish the season on a high note.

2008
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 2: What do you expect from the opponents tomorrow night at

2009
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: TQL Stadium. What's the scouting report on them?

2010
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:54,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's interesting.

2011
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 23: They're in thirteenth place in the East, so well out

2012
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 23: of the playoff picture. You know, they've had an interim

2013
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 23: coach for more than half the season, which has been

2014
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 23: kind of interesting, right, like this coach is available, they

2015
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 23: haven't made a move, you know, for a coach, or

2016
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,600
Speaker 23: maybe they've made a move and failed and not gotten.

2017
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 11: That person in.

2018
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 23: But they have one goal scorer in in double figures

2019
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 23: in Prince of Wusu, so you better know where he

2020
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 23: is all the time defensively and shut him down, you know.

2021
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 23: And then then after that they don't have a lot

2022
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 23: of attacking options. The question for me is what do

2023
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 23: they look like knowing that their season's over. Right, they're

2024
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 23: on the road. You know, they're not playing for much

2025
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 23: except for Pride at this juncture. But you look at

2026
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 23: at how crummy they've been all year. Their road form

2027
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 23: of late has actually been pretty good. They're three to

2028
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 23: one and three in their last seven on the road,

2029
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 23: And as I was kind of going through my notes

2030
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 23: this morning, it kind of took me aback.

2031
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 7: I'm like, dang, that means they were even.

2032
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 11: Worse before those seven games, but they've been able to

2033
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 11: to find some results away from home, which is interesting

2034
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 11: to me.

2035
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 23: And look, you know, you might not be playing for

2036
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 23: the playoffs or seating or anything like that, but those

2037
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 23: guys are playing for contracts, right. Some of them may

2038
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 23: be waiting a waiting word, you know, whether or not

2039
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 23: Montreal wants them back, and some of them have been

2040
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 23: told that they're not back. But they have an opportunity

2041
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 23: to you know, create one more game film and get

2042
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 23: a contract somewhere else next year. Sure, so I think

2043
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 23: they'll come in and certainly have you know, more than

2044
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 23: pride to play for and and f C sin sans.

2045
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 23: You have to be ready to attack them the same

2046
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 23: way they did when they saw them back in back

2047
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 23: in June up their way to.

2048
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 2: His name is Tommy g. Tom glad Or the voice

2049
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 2: of the Orange and Blue A six o'clock kickoff If

2050
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 2: I saw that correctly. What do you guys got set

2051
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 2: for the pregame show? What can people expect when they

2052
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 2: tune in?

2053
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 11: Oh, of course we'll have a little chat with Pat

2054
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 11: Noonan on the pregame show.

2055
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 23: Well, we'll take a look at the lineups once we

2056
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,560
Speaker 23: get those, you know, an hour before kickoff, and you

2057
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 23: know kind of kind of get some thoughts on how

2058
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 23: the playoff picture is shaping up, because I think it's

2059
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 23: a really exciting time of year. I love how MLS

2060
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 23: stacks things up, you know, with this decision day format

2061
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 23: where everybody in the East is playing at the same

2062
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 23: time and everybody at the West is playing at the

2063
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 23: same time. And look, this shid won't be determined, you know,

2064
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 23: the year that since anyone, they won it well before decision.

2065
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 11: Day, and and Philadelphia, you know, the rightful winners of it.

2066
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 11: This year.

2067
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 23: They're the best team wired to wire across the you know,

2068
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 23: course of the season. So all you could do is

2069
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 23: tip your cap to them in what they have been

2070
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 23: able to accomplish. But I do think it's fun, Like,

2071
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 23: you know, Pat doesn't have anything the scoreboard watch because

2072
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 23: if his team wins, they get that two seed and

2073
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 23: there's nothing else that they can improve. But it's kind

2074
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 23: of fun from our standpoint, you know, Kevin and I

2075
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 23: sitting in there, like we'll keep the live scoreboard up

2076
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 23: and and the live standings because as our game plays out,

2077
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 23: the other ones will and that'll be okay. Now we're

2078
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 23: playing Now, we're playing Coumbus, Now we're playing Orlando, and

2079
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 23: you know those seeds, you know, Cincinnati and Miami will

2080
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 23: be the two and three, But then then that four

2081
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 23: through nine is completely up in the air. Nothing's locked

2082
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 23: in there. So it's gonna be a pretty exciting finish

2083
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 23: for those teams that are trying to figure out where

2084
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 23: they fit in the big picture and who they're gonna

2085
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 23: be going to play and or who gets that last

2086
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 23: home series as the four seed. So no, I think

2087
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 23: it's a it's a very exciting format the way that

2088
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 23: MLS does it, and uh, it's always a lot of

2089
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 23: It's a lot more fun than you put it this

2090
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 23: way the last four years.

2091
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 11: Than it was the first three when there was no

2092
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 11: playoffs to talk about. So I much prefer, you.

2093
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 23: Know, the topics that you and I are handling and saying,

2094
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 23: oh man, the two seed to look great and we'd

2095
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 23: rather play Nashville than Orlando than saying, well, you know.

2096
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 11: Chris Albright's exit meetings start on Monday. So no, it's good.

2097
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 2: You never take it for granted. Winning always feels good,

2098
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: no matter what. You always got to make the most

2099
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 2: of it.

2100
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 11: We will be listening this weekend speaking for the whole

2101
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 11: city right now.

2102
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: Off, Yes, you forget sometimes when you go through a

2103
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, you forget sometimes what it feels like,

2104
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 2: and you just got to appreciate it. You gotta enjoy it,

2105
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

2106
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. Well, I appreciate being here with you, brother.

2107
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate you making some time for me. Have a

2108
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: great weekend. We'll be listening. Tommy. Thanks.

2109
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 7: All right, perfect.

2110
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 2: That is Tommy g the voice of the Orange and

2111
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 2: Blue FC Cincinnati getting said for the playoff picture this weekend.

2112
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. We

2113
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 2: go back to the Bengals conversation, including what Joe Flacco

2114
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: had to say after the game yesterday and something that

2115
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 2: Kirk Krbstreet said that really struck a chord with me

2116
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 2: and I'm sure probably you too. That's next. This is

2117
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

2118
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Speaker 16: Now your chance to win it f thousand is back

2119
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 16: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

2120
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Speaker 2: Welcome back Friday Football Frenzy, ESPN fifteen thirty. My name

2121
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:02,919
Speaker 2: is Austin Elmore, with you until three o'clock today. Bengals

2122
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 2: pep rally three to six this afternoon. There will be

2123
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 2: some pep in the step after a big win over

2124
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers last night, and we talked about, you know,

2125
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 2: the various plays of the game. There's a few different

2126
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 2: ones that you could go to, a few that you

2127
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 2: could lean on as your favorite play. For me, it's

2128
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 2: hard not to look at the completion to T Higgins.

2129
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 2: Here's what it sounded like last night with Dan and

2130
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: Lapp Flacco and the gun chase. One of three receivers

2131
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 2: out to the right. Placo is ready catches the shotgun,

2132
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 2: snap blitz coming. Placo throws a fade and.

2133
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 18: It is call punning inside the ten and going into

2134
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 18: a slide his T Higgins. That's brilliant, Patty run into

2135
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 18: the end zone. It would have been a touchdown. We

2136
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 18: all would have been excited, but it would have left

2137
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 18: plenty of time for Rogers to answer. By going down,

2138
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 18: he forces the Steelers to call another time out. Well,

2139
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 18: a first and goal from this ya been won thirty

2140
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 18: seven to go.

2141
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 19: One of the most un selfish players I've ever seen,

2142
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 19: I just witnessed right there, Jalen Ramsey. Had him beaten,

2143
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 19: could have scored great individual effort. He would have been like,

2144
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 19: oh big time, would have made ESPN highlights all the

2145
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 19: NFL highlights for the sake of his football team, but

2146
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 19: the good of his entire football team unselfishly slides to

2147
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 19: the turf.

2148
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 4: What a play. T Higgins is a Keeam player.

2149
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: That was so awesome to see that in that moment

2150
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 2: and to understand, like, you know, yeah, you can play

2151
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 2: for the stats, you can play for the highlights, you

2152
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 2: can play for all that stuff, but just to be

2153
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: reminded of what exactly, you know, this is all about,

2154
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: and the mindset of the team and of a player

2155
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 2: like t Higgins who is gonna be in Cincinnati for

2156
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,560
Speaker 2: a long time to come, and a fan favorite and

2157
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 2: a guy who's kind of often forgotten about or in

2158
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 2: the shadow of Jamar Chase maybe not taken as seriously

2159
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: for him to you know, make that play in that moment,

2160
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 2: understanding the situation, the quarterback on the other sideline, the

2161
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: way the defense had been playing, and knowing that that's

2162
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 2: the moment you have to you know, sacrifice for the

2163
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: betterment of the football team.

2164
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was asked about it after the game, you know,

2166
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 2: he said, I think it was Jay Morrison asked him,

2167
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: would that have been hard for you to do? To

2168
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: stop in that moment and slide and Jamar said, no,

2169
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 2: not if you want to win. And that I think

2170
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 2: is a perfect peek into the mindset because when things

2171
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 2: had kind of been struggling a little bit over the

2172
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, what did we say, Okay, Well,

2173
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 2: maybe guys start thinking about themselves. Maybe guys start thinking

2174
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: about their stats, Maybe guys start thinking about their contract.

2175
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 2: You start making business decisions, you start doing things that

2176
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 2: maybe isn't a team first mentality in the way that

2177
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 2: you do them. But not t Higgins in that moment,

2178
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 2: knowing the importance of that game and also the future

2179
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 2: of this football team to go down and do that

2180
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: the way he did. I thought that was really cool.

2181
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool, and I think he

2182
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: deserves a lot of credit for that. The other thing is,

2183
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 2: and I was kind of talking about this with Tommy

2184
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 2: g at the end of our conversation there, like you

2185
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 2: can it's you forget sometimes what it feels like to win.

2186
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 2: When you go through a losing stretch like that where

2187
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 2: your team isn't losing in the NFL, and every Monday

2188
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,560
Speaker 2: is difficult, or a Friday is difficult, or a Tuesday

2189
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 2: is difficult, and you kind of forget the elation of

2190
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 2: what it feels like to, Yes, our team won, and

2191
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: you go to work the next day, you got a

2192
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 2: little pep in your step or whatever it might be.

2193
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 2: I always say that the coffee tastes better the day

2194
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 2: after a win, and you know, you can you can

2195
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 2: forget what that feels like if it's been a month

2196
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 2: or so before that happens, or you know, a month

2197
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 2: or so since that happens, And so to feel that

2198
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: again and you know today is an awesome feeling, and

2199
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 2: it makes you excited about the future and you just

2200
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: can't wait for the next one. And that's what makes

2201
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 2: being an NFL fan so fun. But I had noticed

2202
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks there was a certain

2203
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 2: like level of being miserable that I had felt with

2204
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Obviously, the dread and the despair following the

2205
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow injury, that's one thing, and then too the

2206
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 2: way that Jake Browning played and the way that he lost.

2207
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 2: And then they go and they get Joe Flacco and

2208
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 2: nobody really takes them seriously with that, and they kind

2209
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 2: of get beat around a little bit, and it's just

2210
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 2: it feels like it's teetering on the edge of falling off.

2211
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 2: And so that coupled with the years and years and

2212
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: years of heartbreak as a Cincinnati sports fan, you start

2213
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 2: to feel jaded. You're always waiting for the next shoot

2214
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 2: to drop, You're always waiting for the next gut punch.

2215
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 2: And so last night I'm watching and I'm preparing for

2216
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 2: the postgame show, and I got my notes and everything,

2217
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: and it's starting to get into crunch time and I

2218
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 2: can feel myself like leaning up on the couch, leaning

2219
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: towards the TV, and I feel that pit in my stomach,

2220
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 2: and it's a miserable feeling because you're like, all right,

2221
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 2: here it comes, here, it comes, here, it comes, and

2222
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 2: it never came. And so like I'm reminded in that moment,

2223
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 2: like sometimes, especially with this as your job, you can

2224
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: kind of just get into a habit of, Okay, here's

2225
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 2: what happened, here's how I explain it, here's what we

2226
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 2: want to talk about, baba, and it can kind of

2227
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 2: get monotonous, and you lose sometimes the sight of being

2228
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: a fan in that moment and that passion and in

2229
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 2: that moment, sitting there leaning forward towards my television on

2230
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 2: the couch, and I remember, like, this is what makes

2231
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: being a fan so great. You don't know what's gonna

2232
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 2: happen in the next thirty seconds. You don't know if

2233
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 2: Pat Fryerm is gonna score a seventy yard touchdown, or

2234
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 2: if DJ Turner is gonna pick Aaron Rodgers off again.

2235
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: You don't know if Jamar Chase is gonna break another record,

2236
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 2: or if Joe Flacco is gonna tuck and run for

2237
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 2: twelve yards. That is what makes being a sports fan

2238
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: so fun. And it was funny. Kirk krb Street, who

2239
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 2: has formerly, you know, lived in the city of Cincinnati

2240
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 2: and his son went to Saint X and has grown

2241
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 2: up in this area and around this area and is

2242
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 2: a big Reds fan, kind of talked about this on

2243
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 2: the broadcast last night with Al Michaels. Here's forty three seconds,

2244
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,200
Speaker 2: and I thought this perfectly summed up the way every

2245
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: Bengals fan was feeling when it got into crunch time

2246
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 2: last night on Thursday Night Football.

2247
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 35: The forty yard line, there was six to fifty two

2248
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 35: left in the fourth, Yeah, plenty of time for Aaron Rodgers.

2249
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 11: Listen.

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01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 4: I grew up in Southwest Ohio.

2251
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 38: I know how Cincinnati fans thank whether it's the Reds

2252
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 38: and the Bengals, there isn't a person in a white

2253
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 38: T shirt for Jersey. It isn't thinking about a walk

2254
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 38: to their car with a thirty one thirty loss. Right now,

2255
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 38: I'm telling them, I'm getting texts from Cincinnati fans that

2256
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 38: I have a text chain called pain that we are

2257
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 38: a part of for being Reds fans, and it carries

2258
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 38: over into.

2259
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 40: The Paul, you haven't let the sunshine in come on

2260
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 40: so well, I'm just saying, that's what you think is

2261
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 40: gonna happen.

2262
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: It's a different night, right, Is that not the most

2263
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 2: true thing you've ever heard from a broadcaster? Like Yeah,

2264
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 2: And we always talk about trying to be positive and

2265
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 2: you know, getting excited and all that stuff. I get it,

2266
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 2: but like every fan was feeling the same thing, and

2267
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 2: they're showing shots of the crowd in that moment and

2268
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: they're all thinking the same thing as golly, just don't

2269
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 2: lose this game. Don't lose this game. We're gonna lose

2270
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 2: this game. And then they found a way to win,

2271
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 2: and that's what makes those wins even sweeter when something

2272
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 2: so unexpected like a Joe Flacco performance like that happens,

2273
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 2: it makes it even sweeter. And it was fun to

2274
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 2: see that happen last night and to feel that and

2275
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 2: remember what's great about being a sports fan. I had fun.

2276
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but I really enjoyed it,

2277
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 2: to say the least, last night. And obviously winning is fun.

2278
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 2: Never ever, ever take it for granted. Never take winning

2279
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: for granted. You should always enjoy and savor the victories

2280
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 2: because you don't know when the next one's gonna come.

2281
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, We'll come back. This is Friday

2282
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Football Frenzy. On ESPN fifteen thirty. Loeger, there was some

2283
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 2: pooling of the team last night. When it comes to sports.

2284
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 5: He's got something to say.

2285
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: Or just natural byproducts of and plenty of it.

2286
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 5: A poor play, Loegar to Day at three on ESPN

2287
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 5: fifteen thirty.

2288
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 2: Penn Station is turning up the heat.

2289
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 17: Here we go a thirty six yard field goal try

2290
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 17: for the league. With eleven seconds left in the fourth quarter,

2291
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 17: the Bengals down by one point. Money Mack is ready.

2292
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 17: He takes a deep rep, wait for the long snap

2293
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 17: back to Rico. Rico puts it down to kick his up.

2294
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, good gosh have the Bengals have a two

2295
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 18: point lead with seven seconds left on the clock.

2296
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 19: Nice gotta love it. Joe Flacco, Welcome to Cincinnati, my man.

2297
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 2: Dan Horde. Dave Lapham on the call last night, the

2298
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 2: game winning field goal from Evan McPherson and gives the

2299
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 2: Bengals their third win of the year. Two and Ozer

2300
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 2: now in the AFC North. Jay Morrison wrote a good

2301
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 2: piece for Sports Illustrated about Evan McPherson and his men's

2302
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 2: small group group of guys from Crossroads that Evan goes

2303
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 2: to church with and how they helped him through his

2304
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 2: struggles last year. Really good stuff worth checking out. I

2305
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: go to Crossroads, I know a few of those people

2306
01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 2: in that group, So really cool to see Evan McPherson

2307
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 2: and kind of the comeback that he has had both

2308
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 2: personally and professionally this year and was a huge part

2309
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 2: obviously of last night and the way the Bengals got

2310
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 2: that victory. Got a few minutes here, let's hear from

2311
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 2: the victorious quarterback from last night, the Icy Hot Bowl,

2312
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 2: the Unction, the old fellas, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers getting

2313
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 2: after it last night, I talked about it'd be fun

2314
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 2: for it to be a track meet. Well it kind

2315
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 2: of was. It was Joe Flacco after the game.

2316
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 3: Man, it's a lot of fun, I'm you know, and

2317
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it's a lot of fun towards the

2318
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 3: end of the game when when you're getting ready to go,

2319
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is what we're do it for, is

2320
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 3: games like that. It came down to the wire just

2321
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 3: like we know it's going to and really really happy

2322
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 3: about how the guys just kind of stayed with it

2323
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 3: for full sixty minutes. And man, our offensive line was

2324
01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 3: going today. You know, we're running the football, protecting, you know,

2325
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 3: doing a lot of things that we wanted to do.

2326
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 9: Joe, when they were there to take a lead, You've

2327
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 9: been through a lot of the situations two minutes plus.

2328
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 2: What goes to your mind knowing.

2329
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, you gotta, you gotta This is such an

2330
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 3: emotional game. But like sometimes, especially as a quarterback, you

2331
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 3: gotta take the emotions and and the want to of

2332
02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 3: like looking ahead at the results. You got to just

2333
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 3: take that out of play and just go play football.

2334
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 3: And you know, hey, we got Jamar on an out route.

2335
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh they're off of them just throw it just simple,

2336
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 3: the simple thing. It just goes back to the basics

2337
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 3: and not worrying about the result in the moment, just

2338
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 3: playing the play and getting our guys in position to

2339
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 3: go win.

2340
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 7: It was tonight.

2341
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. But there's like, you know,

2342
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 3: you're still there's your mind's not necessarily thinking that way

2343
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 3: for the full sixty minutes, but obviously the last seven seconds,

2344
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 3: you know, or but even that there's three seconds they

2345
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 3: got to hal marry off. You're still you know, you've

2346
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 3: been through it. I've been through enough of these to

2347
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 3: wait until that clockhead zero to be excited. So but

2348
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 3: like it it Listen, I love doing this. I've been

2349
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 3: doing it such for such a long time. When you're

2350
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 3: out there with the guys and you're and you're doing

2351
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 3: what you want to do and you're having success, and

2352
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 3: you can look at each other's eyes and just like

2353
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 3: you get that feeling, uh you know, of you know,

2354
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 3: bonding with somebody else and just it's a lot of fun.

2355
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 3: And it's a lot more fun when that clockhead zero

2356
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 3: and you've gotten the job done.

2357
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 32: Got here obviously you probably knew how good gimarchies because where.

2358
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,240
Speaker 25: It's from when fit in Cleveland and being a fan

2359
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 25: of the game, but it is a game like tonight

2360
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 25: when you see what tram Mart did and then what

2361
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 25: Tea was able to do.

2362
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:44,240
Speaker 5: Did that?

2363
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 7: Did that just open your eyes?

2364
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: Like these guys are even better than I thought.

2365
02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, last week it opened my eyes just just with

2366
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 3: the simple things, not not the fact that they went

2367
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 3: for eight hundred yards obviously, but you could see it.

2368
02:01:58,360 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 25: Uh.

2369
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 3: And then today what I got to see was just

2370
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 3: how a defense has to treat those guys and if

2371
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 3: you don't treat them a certain way, they can hurt you.

2372
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 3: And if you do treat them a certain way, well

2373
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 3: maybe we have some other guys that can get the

2374
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 3: job done. So you today, I think I got to

2375
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 3: see just the problems they create in general. Last week

2376
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 3: I said it earlier this week. Last week we didn't

2377
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 3: do anything crazy, but you could see those guys are different,

2378
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 3: and it's it's pretty cool. We got a throw. I

2379
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 3: mean to you tell me, I don't think so. I

2380
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:34,960
Speaker 3: don't think so. Well, we threw the ball forty seven

2381
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:39,600
Speaker 3: times or probably dropped back a couple more, and I

2382
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 3: mean I think he ended up. I mean, look at

2383
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 3: the end of the first half we just out wrought

2384
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 3: out right, you know, like it was I don't think

2385
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,040
Speaker 3: it was anything crazy, pretty simple stuff underneath, getting them

2386
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 3: one on one. So we drew it up and it

2387
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 3: worked out.

2388
02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:57,160
Speaker 8: Like that.

2389
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that really was kind of more of a

2390
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 3: broken play. We just didn't line upright and it wasn't

2391
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,400
Speaker 3: really a true readoption, but I did. I've done a

2392
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 3: few of those early, probably my first three years. I

2393
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 3: did a few of those, like in certain situations, but

2394
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 3: it's been a while and it kind of just happened.

2395
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 3: It just happened. So I was like, all right, now,

2396
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 3: how can I find somewhere to get down and you know,

2397
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 3: not get taken out by one of these guys.

2398
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 7: A little bit?

2399
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 36: Yeah, kind of like your first question, that's right in

2400
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 36: your nine or ten days here, when did you realize

2401
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 36: that you could have this successful and offensive game like

2402
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:30,200
Speaker 36: this quickly?

2403
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 3: You're not thinking about it in that sense. I mean,

2404
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 3: I think you're always like wanting to go do that.

2405
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 3: But I think what being here in this situation has

2406
02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 3: done for me is it allows you to recalibrate and

2407
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 3: not worry about those things. It allows you to just

2408
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 3: focus on the basics and it's a good reminder that

2409
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 3: doing that is what leads to success in consistency. So

2410
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 3: I think the bigger thing going forward is just continuing

2411
02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:57,520
Speaker 3: to remind myself of that.

2412
02:03:58,040 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 7: I said, you had some.

2413
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 2: Issues with it with maybe as accent when he was trying.

2414
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 11: To Yeahah, it's just like some of these words are

2415
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 11: so new to.

2416
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 3: Me, and when you don't get it, Like I honestly

2417
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 3: felt like this week was probably a little bit harder

2418
02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 3: than last week, just because it's such a short week.

2419
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 3: You're still putting in a full game plan. You don't

2420
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 3: get to hear the play as much. So there were

2421
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 3: certain things was like and I could picture everything, but

2422
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 3: there's certain things with the formations and things like that

2423
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 3: that you're hearing for the first couple of times, and

2424
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 3: even though you've read the play a million times, like

2425
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 3: when you hear it, it just wasn't hitting my brain right.

2426
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 3: So there was there was a few of those, and

2427
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 3: we were joking on the sideline like any time that happened,

2428
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 3: and we broke the play and we broke the huddle

2429
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 3: and it was like, I don't know if we're right here.

2430
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 3: I mean that play hit so like, so we got

2431
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 3: lucky tonight. In that sense, what did you say that

2432
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 3: they played one on one the safety didn't really Maybe

2433
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 3: he was cheating his way a little bit, but not really.

2434
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 3: And I knew I had a conversion to him and

2435
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 3: it was a chance to basically end the game. Uh,

2436
02:04:55,560 --> 02:04:57,919
Speaker 3: they I felt like they were kind of playing back shoulders.

2437
02:04:58,000 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 3: So the one adjustment I made there was maybe just

2438
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 3: throw it up a little bit more and let him

2439
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:03,880
Speaker 3: kind of bend into it if he gets by him.

2440
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 3: And I think he got a good release, so I could.

2441
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 3: I could kind of see that throw happening, you know,

2442
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 3: as I was doing it.

2443
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 2: So you were here for that bulk of the four

2444
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 2: game losing streat. Did you sense what this win meant

2445
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 2: the teammates had.

2446
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 7: Gone through that.

2447
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, that was an awesome sideline, an awesome

2448
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 3: locker room after the game. But at the same time,

2449
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 3: you got to give those guys with a lot of credit, Like,

2450
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 3: it's not easy to lose four straight games and keep

2451
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 3: your head into it. So the fact that they've been

2452
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 3: able to do this and get to the point where

2453
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 3: we got tonight and be a good football team is

2454
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 3: also impressive.

2455
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is fun to listen to, talk just a

2456
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 2: true football guy, loves the game and is charismatic and honest.

2457
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:43,360
Speaker 2: It's just refreshing that type of mentality and that type

2458
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 2: of personality, and I've just been incredibly impressed by him.

2459
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:53,520
Speaker 2: And to see just the way he communicates with his

2460
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 2: teammates and with the media and just being just a

2461
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 2: genuine refreshing has been really fun to see and makes

2462
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 2: you feel confident that the Bengals not only got a

2463
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 2: quarterback that can operate their system, but fits the style

2464
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 2: and the culture and the communication and all the things

2465
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 2: that Zach Taylor is looking for. Feels like they did

2466
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 2: their homework, and while there may have been more talented

2467
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks available, Flacco seems to be the right fit for

2468
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 2: what the Bengals are trying to accomplish. And I thought

2469
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 2: that that note at the end there about the teammates

2470
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:31,320
Speaker 2: and going through all that, I thought that was cool

2471
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 2: and that was important. We'll finish things up with an

2472
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 2: update on Joe Burrow what Ian Rappaport said about him

2473
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 2: yesterday prior to the Bengals game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

2474
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:47,920
Speaker 2: That's next. This is Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen

2475
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 2: to thirty.

2476
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 16: Cincinnati, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. It's time for

2477
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 16: Cincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN fifteenth.

2478
02:06:58,840 --> 02:06:59,919
Speaker 7: They're looking for moll.

2479
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 2: Mo's not here. Moe's off today, as he typically is

2480
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 2: during Fridays on the football season. Mo getting set to

2481
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 2: travel out with the UC Bearcats for their game up

2482
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State this weekend. Eight o'clock tip from still Water.

2483
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that Bearcats last I looked twenty one

2484
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 2: to twenty one and a half point favorites in that

2485
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:24,080
Speaker 2: game and should be a walk in the park for

2486
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:26,760
Speaker 2: Scott Saderfield's bunch. At least. I would expect that they're

2487
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:29,440
Speaker 2: playing with some good rhythm right now, and that offensive

2488
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 2: line is doing a great job with Brendan Soresby and

2489
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 2: protecting him well. What about the Bengals offensive line and

2490
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 2: their quarterback Joe Burrow and protecting him well. Prior to

2491
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:45,120
Speaker 2: last night's win over the Steelers, Ian Rappaport joined Amazon

2492
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 2: on Primes or Amazon Primes or Thursday Night Football on

2493
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 2: Prime's pregame coverage you get the point, and provided an

2494
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 2: update on the Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.

2495
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 32: Yeah, no doubt the biggest and most important question for

2496
02:07:58,640 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 32: the Cincinnati Bengals.

2497
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 2: Here's my understanding of where it stands for Joe Burrow.

2498
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 32: He is one month into a three month recovery for

2499
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:09,200
Speaker 32: Grade three turf dough head surgery. He is on track

2500
02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 32: doing while I've had no setbacks, which means if this

2501
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 32: continues in this direction, he should be back on the

2502
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:17,840
Speaker 32: fields mid December, and has told people close to him

2503
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 32: he is absolutely intends.

2504
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 18: To be back, just need the team to stay alive

2505
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 18: until then.

2506
02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 3: So there you go.

2507
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:27,360
Speaker 2: There you have it. The first real update or report

2508
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 2: on Joe Burrow comes from Ian Rappaport that Burrow is

2509
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,280
Speaker 2: planning to be back in mid December and is telling

2510
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:37,920
Speaker 2: people that he plans to be back in mid December,

2511
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 2: and all right, let's ride. I'm down with that if

2512
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 2: that's the move. And obviously the Bengals just have to

2513
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 2: be able to have to be able to stay in it,

2514
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 2: stay competitive and keep giving themselves a shot. And obviously,

2515
02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 2: if Joe Flacco performs the way that he did last night,

2516
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 2: and if the defense starts to get things cleaned up,

2517
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 2: and you expect the defense to be better against inferior

2518
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:09,920
Speaker 2: competition like the Jets and perhaps like the Bears, and

2519
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 2: you expect the defense to be a little bit better

2520
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 2: when Shamar Stewart and Trey Hendrickson are on the field

2521
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 2: at the same time, then that you can start to

2522
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 2: see a path. But don't let the win distract you

2523
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 2: from the fact that they need better players. And if

2524
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 2: they are serious about this, and there was an aggressive

2525
02:09:26,360 --> 02:09:29,879
Speaker 2: move in going and acquiring Joe Flacco, they should continue

2526
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 2: to be aggressive in acquiring players that help their defense immediately.

2527
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 2: They there should be no difference in helping one unit

2528
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 2: or helping another unit. They need better players. Now, if

2529
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 2: you could tell me that the Bengals could trade for

2530
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons right now from Tennessee, I'd be all about that.

2531
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 2: Don't know if that's a realistic possibility, but they have

2532
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to have linebackers that

2533
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 2: can tackle edge, rushers that can actually rush the passer

2534
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 2: rush rushed the passer, and safeties that aren't consistently out

2535
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 2: of position like Geno Stone. They need help. Hopefully health

2536
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:12,240
Speaker 2: and continuity helps them, But if it's not been more

2537
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:15,000
Speaker 2: obvious than now, there's no depth on this team. So

2538
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 2: at the bare minimum, you're gonna need some depth and

2539
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:22,360
Speaker 2: hopefully the Bengals were able to figure that out. By

2540
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 2: the way, yesterday in sports, for some quick hits, the

2541
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 2: Dodgers beat the Brewers to go up three games to

2542
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:32,960
Speaker 2: none in the American or in the National League Championship Series,

2543
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 2: and it was the Mariners falling again to the Toronto

2544
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:40,400
Speaker 2: Blue Jays. The Blue Jays have even that series up

2545
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 2: at two games a piece. Max Scherzer was unbelievable last

2546
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 2: night for the Blue Jays. He was going absolute mad Max,

2547
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 2: complete lunatic on the mouth last night in Seattle. That

2548
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 2: series is evened up at two games a piece. James Franklin,

2549
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 2: as you know, was fired, which means Kurt Signetti got

2550
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 2: an extension from Indiana College Football News. Signetti signed an

2551
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:08,400
Speaker 2: eight year, ninety three million dollar extension. It is fully

2552
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 2: guaranteed to keep him with the Indiana Hoosiers. How about

2553
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 2: the NFL schedule this weekend? The other day we went

2554
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 2: through the college slate. Well, there's another International Series game.

2555
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so tired of this. This is my

2556
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:26,880
Speaker 2: hot take. Maybe I'm a boomer old man, get off

2557
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:29,200
Speaker 2: my lawn type of thing. I'm so tired of the

2558
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 2: International Series, and I know it's going to continue to

2559
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 2: get worse and continue to get worse, and continue to

2560
02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 2: get worse. I get that, but nine to thirty am

2561
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 2: every week, I don't think I love that. I love

2562
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 2: football more than anybody. I'm not ready to say that

2563
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 2: I love the International Series when it is as much

2564
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 2: as it is already. Meanwhile, after that, that's nine thirty

2565
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 2: Los Angeles at Jacksonville from Wembley Stadium in London. Then

2566
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:57,839
Speaker 2: it's the Saints at the Bears. At one o'clock, Dolphins

2567
02:11:57,880 --> 02:12:01,360
Speaker 2: are at the Browns. Patriots at the Titans. That's the

2568
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel Bowl. Titans, of course fired Brian Callahan, so

2569
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 2: their first game without Brian Callahan. Oh, here comes Mike

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Speaker 2: Rabel and the New England Patriots. Patriots six and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorites in that game. Another big spread here,

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, excuse me, Las Vegas at Kansas City. The Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: winners of three in a row, are twelve and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorites in that game. Philadelphia is at Minnesota

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Speaker 2: and Carolina is at the Jets. The Jets, of course

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Speaker 2: with the Bengals opponent next week, Carolina in New York

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Speaker 2: to take on the Jets. The Panthers are favored by

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Speaker 2: one and a half in that game. I believe there's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be some nasty wins in that game as well. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: four o'clock slates the Giants at the Broncos. Colts are

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles to take on the Chargers. It'll be

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Speaker 2: the Commanders at Dallas, Green Bay at Arizona. Sunday night

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Speaker 2: football this week will be Atlanta at San Francisco, and

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Speaker 2: then another Monday night doubleheader will be Tampa at Detroit

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Speaker 2: at seven pm and Houston at Seattle at ten pm.

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Speaker 2: So those are a couple of good matchups right there.

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Speaker 2: Two teams on a buy, Buffalo and Baltimore. So that

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Speaker 2: is your full NFL slate for this weekend. All right,

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Speaker 2: That pretty much sums it up. That does it for

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Speaker 2: me as far as I'm concerned. Appreciate everybody listening this

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Speaker 2: week and all the support that I have gotten. And

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Speaker 2: it's been fun to do this for a week or so.

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Speaker 2: And we'll see what happens in the future. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: just a lot going on and excited for the Bengals

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Speaker 2: who have turned things around in a big way. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for listening to this episode, I guess

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Speaker 2: of since E three to sixty aka Friday Football Frenzy.

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Speaker 2: Back at it again on Monday. Until then, the Bengals

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Speaker 2: PEP Rally is coming up next, from three to six

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, right here on the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 39: P.