1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Well, we are in the war with Iran, however you 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: want to characterize it, in the fourth week, and things 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: have slowed down somewhat the first success which wiped out 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: so much of the leadership of this theocracy. This this 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: theocratic dictatorship, but there's lots that we don't know. And 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: here to help us with putting this in more perspective, 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: we have the honor of a guest, retired retired Major General, 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: Major General Robert F. D's, who served the United States 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: military with distinction, and he also is the founder of 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: the National Center for Healthy Veterans, which is located in Virginia. 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that purpose, which is indeed important, 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: but we also want to give you an opportunity to 15 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: ask the major general questions or solicit his comments, and 16 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: I will do the same. I will tell you that 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: the major General has a distinguished record of service to 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: the country, and he also had in one of his positions. 19 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: He was former commander of the US Israeli Combined Task 20 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: Force for Missile Defense. So let's start off with that. 21 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: If we could. Major General D's when will you in 22 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: such close coordination with Israel and members of the Israeli military. 23 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you, Dan, Yeah, good, good to be 24 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: with you. Yeah, it was a privilege to serve with 25 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: the Israelis. My time with them was two thousand to 26 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: two thousand and two, although interestingly lived in a kibbutz 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: on the Seo Galile right after I graduated from West 28 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: Point in nineteen seventy two. Really, and so when I 29 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: went back to Israel, I could see all the Israeli 30 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: general staff looking at me like, here's another Yank, what 31 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: behind the years? What does he know? And then I 32 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: just said, well, I'm glad to be back in Israel 33 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: after living in kibbutz and off Ghinnisar, you know, up 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: by Galilee, and you could see their body language, their 35 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: whole demeanor change. And so it was they gave me 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: greater credibility, and then I really came to love them 37 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: and respect their competence and the great challenges they face 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: with such short strategic warning and so forth. 39 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: No question, the missiles come very quickly, and they come 40 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: in droves. Now again, you've been retired since two thousand 41 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: and three. You served thirty one years the country. After 42 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: having graduated from West Point in nineteen seventy two. As 43 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: you sit back with knowledge and perspective, but obviously you're 44 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: not being incorporated into the current meetings of the Joint 45 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: chiefs or anything like that. What is your overall sense 46 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: as to the timing of this war? Is this a 47 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: war that you felt was inevitable? Should have it been? 48 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: Should have we engaged in this earlier? Should have we waited? 49 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Just froe point of view of timing. I'm curious with 50 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: your military background what your sense is when you knew 51 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: that the strikes were launched in late February in the morning, 52 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: well late late February twenty eighth and March. 53 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: First, yeah, you bet a couple of things. Stan. First, 54 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: you're right on my recent I haven't had recent service. 55 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: I don't have my security classification. And the only advantage 56 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: I suppose I have is that I look at all 57 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: of this through a different knowledge base and different lens, 58 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: so sometimes I pick up on the trends that others 59 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: might not see. Regarding the timing, I think, frankly it 60 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: was long overdue. The you know when. But but there's 61 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: a lot of risk associated with, you know, going to 62 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: war at any time or conflict or and and the 63 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 3: net is that you have to assess all those risk factors, 64 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: and there were many reasons. One the eminence of a 65 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: nuclear weapon and some intelligence related to that, but also 66 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: the uprising of the Iranian people was a factor, no 67 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: doubt to consider UH. And then the economic challenges that 68 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: Iran was having. All of these factored into a point 69 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 3: of weakness on their part and a point of conviction, 70 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: certainly on the part of our current president, and the 71 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: decision that the timing was right and that forty seven 72 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: years was too long to have waited for that despotic 73 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: regime to continue to say death to America and so division, strife, 74 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: violence not just out of their own borders but through 75 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: their surrogates has Blahamas, you know, their Iranian affiliate affiliates 76 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: in Iraq, Syria isis UH and and then of recent 77 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: of their antagonism towards their own Gulf states that are 78 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: that are surrounding them. So yeah, I think the timing 79 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: was you know, you can always quarterback that, but I 80 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: think many and I among them, would say it was 81 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 3: overdue to do what was done. 82 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: Are you surprised that the that with the success of 83 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: the first Day when whatever it was, fifty four leaders 84 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: from the Supreme Leader on down were eliminated. Are you 85 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: surprised that they have still been able to maintain a 86 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: command and control structure so that they're still firing rockets 87 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: and they don't seem ready to surrender. 88 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I agree with that. You have capability and 89 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: you have intent when you assess the power of a threat, 90 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: so to speak. Their capability has radically gone down. You know, 91 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: their missile is missiles down sixty percent, their navy is destroyed, 92 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: their air force is destroyed, we have air superiorority, all 93 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: of that for capability. But they're still intent, and their 94 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: intent is to fight on Their intent is not to capitulate. 95 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: Within the military and lingo, there's two terms. There's one 96 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: is to defeat an enemy, and that to defeat an 97 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: enemy it means that you sort of reduce his will 98 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: to resist so that he no longer desires to fight, 99 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: and he's defeated. He really can't hurt you badly. That 100 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: has happened. But with the Iranians and with their refusal 101 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: to capitulate, the next term is to destroy, so's we're 102 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: in a matter of a destruction campaign right now. Of 103 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: all of their capabilities to project power externally, to hurt 104 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 3: people externally through various means. And when you're talking about 105 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: this destruction campaign, it's almost like BOE's surgery. If you're 106 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: familiar with that, yeah, right, many of us are. So, 107 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: so you know, you take out the part that you 108 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: think is threatening, and then you you you you assess 109 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: the margins and you see if you've taken out enough, 110 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: and then if not, you go back again and again. 111 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: And so that sort of describes the battle damage assessment 112 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: process and the intelligence loop that happens, you know, on 113 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: a daily basis. Now in the prosecution of this conflict. 114 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: You know, the all of our forces Army, Navy, or force, Marines, 115 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: no Death or some Coastguard, certainly Space Force and others involved. 116 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: On a daily basis, they perform certain actions and then 117 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: they assess the impact of those actions, and then they 118 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: also gain new real time intelligence and then that informs 119 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: what happens the next cycle and the next cycle in 120 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: the next cycle, and and this is really what's going on. 121 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: And so you know, you'll you'll find that it's just 122 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: an energy process and frankly, it takes more time than 123 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: a month. But I don't think it's going to take, 124 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 3: you know, more time than two three months, And if 125 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: it does, then we're into a different type of conflict, 126 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: And we're into the type of conflict that meaning in 127 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: our country, fear and also the type of conflict that 128 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: the president at least has said he's not going to 129 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: engage in quote endless wars. And if we get two 130 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: three months in and we and we don't have resolution, 131 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: when we clearly have defeated them on the battlefield, then 132 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: we're not We're not doing what we need to be doing. 133 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: Were you surprised that the President decided to extend the 134 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: his his promise not to destroy infrastructure as long as 135 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: they negotiate in good faith and perhaps come to a 136 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: conclude this situation. But he is. He initially said five days, 137 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: and now he's extended it to an additional I think 138 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: an additional ten ten days. 139 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I understand is ten days. I was 140 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: a statement they put out this afternoon. Well, I think 141 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: I need to caveat what what the arrangement is or 142 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: what his agreement is. He he's committed to not destroy 143 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: energy infrastructure within Iran. Now you know that's because that 144 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: energy infrastructure is the critical element of their national power, 145 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: and and that's their last straw. If he takes away 146 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: that energy infrastructure, then that takes away the oil, and 147 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: it takes away their ability to truly exist as a 148 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: country economically, and then they can't pay the military, and 149 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: the military repolts and there's all sorts of ripple effect 150 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: of that. But I think the ten day moratorium on 151 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: attacking the infrastructure of carg Island things like that that 152 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: in no way says we're not beating the fire out 153 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: of them every day with this targeting iteration that I'm 154 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: talking about. And you know, like two days or yesterday, 155 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: I guess it was the head of the navy that 156 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: was killed, and then so much destruction of the naval forces, 157 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: and they're really working a lot of their production capability, 158 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: So they've just destroyed a lot of the near term threat. 159 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: But now we're working production capability, munition supplies, underground drone 160 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: repositories and all that. So they're they're working it. They're 161 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: working at very systemically, and the capabilities that the US 162 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: and the Israelis are applying are significant and uh, and 163 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: I think they're having an impact, but it's just going 164 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: to take a little more than four weeks to accomplish 165 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: the desired objectives. 166 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: So so your sounds to me like you're optimistic that 167 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: this is going to end in a reasonable amount of 168 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: time and we will get a result that that the 169 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: White House is looking for. 170 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm reasonably optimistic about it. My my concern, as 171 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: is a concern of many in the world, is that 172 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,239 Speaker 3: we we not pause too early come up with an agreement, 173 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: not unlike prior agreements with the Iranians, where there's a 174 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: lot of deception, and as I think you've said before, 175 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: we don't want our political leadership in this country to 176 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: be played, so to speak, by the Iranians. I don't 177 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 3: think we're on the verge of that happening, but I 178 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: do fear for the Iranian people, and I do fear 179 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: that if we don't truly stand down the regime that 180 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: is so toxic and that is all the repercussions against 181 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: the Iranian people, if we don't stop that, I'm fearful 182 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: that we haven't really done them a service the way 183 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: we can. 184 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: Major Jeralen take a quick break when we get back. 185 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: I also want to talk about the National Center for 186 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: Healthy Veterans, which I know you've made such a commitment 187 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: to We're going to take quick break. My guest as 188 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: Major General retired the United States Army, Robert D's Robert 189 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: f D's, he has spent thirty one years in service 190 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: to this country and now in a private life, has 191 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: found today great. I assume it's a dot org, the 192 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: National Center for Healthy Veterans. We will explain all of 193 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: that right after the break here on Nightside. 194 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZY, Boston's news Radio. 195 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: My guest is retired Major General Robert fds. We've been 196 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: talking about what is going on halfway around the world 197 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: in Iran. I want to talk about what he has 198 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: been involved in for several years now, The National Center 199 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: for Healthy Veterans. Tell us about this charity. You founded 200 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: this in twenty twenty. Who are you serving? Obviously the 201 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: title would suggest what you're serving and with what assistance 202 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: do you provide. 203 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: You bed well, thanks Dan, If people can find out 204 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: more at Healthy Veterans dot org. But where we first 205 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: are trying to attack the suicide epidemic that exists in America. 206 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: I mean when I was a young lieutenant. If people say, 207 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: how did this start? Way back nineteen seventy three, I 208 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: was a platune later hunter, first Airborne Division, and night 209 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: before Easter, I'd been there three weeks and I get 210 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: a call to go to Sartensmithy's house trailer. I go 211 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 3: to his house trailer and he'd taken his life. And 212 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: I went to the house. I was there with the 213 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: young widow and her three year old daughter, and I said, well, 214 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: how can I help? And she said, we hit easter 215 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: eggs today. Will you come back in the morning and 216 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: help me and my young daughter gather Easter eggs. Let's 217 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: give her a normal Easter. So obviously tragic, life changing 218 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: for that family, but also the tough medicine for me 219 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: as a young leader. And that was the first of 220 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: many like that I saw over time. I had to 221 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: assess the primary causalities of the military suicide dynamic soon 222 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: after I retired, and I looked at these causalities and 223 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: then I reverse engineered them, and that sort of drove 224 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,479 Speaker 3: what we're doing today. I saw that the primary causality 225 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: at the time was isolation, and so how do you 226 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: defeat isolation? You defeed isolation by community, and so at 227 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: the National Center for Healthy Veterans, we live in community 228 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: and tiny home villages with a community center where they 229 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: have their meals together, do classes together. And then I 230 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: also saw the dignified work to provide purpose and self 231 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: esteem was an antidote to the suicide dynamics we faced. 232 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: And so we have a lot of dignified work where 233 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: a three hundred and fifty acre farm ranch. We have 234 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: thirty five horses, about a dozen cattle. We have four 235 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty chickens. They give us one hundred and 236 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: twenty eggs a dozen eggs a week, and you get 237 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: the picture. A lot of dignified work on our farm. 238 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: And then we have welding, carpentry, et cetera. And then 239 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: thirdly trauma recovering life skills programs. You know, a lot 240 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: of our veterans have faced things that they never should 241 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: have to face, and we help them recover from their 242 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: military trauma. And also many have come into the military 243 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: with trauma at first house experiences. It's only precipitated by 244 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: military service. So we do a lot of We have 245 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: licensed professional counseling, we have certified coaching. We have something 246 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: that's very powerful, which is equine therapy. The horses are incredible, 247 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: you know, that horse can detect the human heart beat 248 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: and their emotional structure from four feet away, So we 249 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: use that as a powerful tool and we help We're 250 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: just seeing great outcomes. We are a nine month residential program, 251 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: longer than most programs that you would understand. And the 252 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: reason is that we are NICHE is to bring on 253 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: high risk, at risk veterans that perhaps have been homeless, 254 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: certainly have experienced a lot of trauma, They may have 255 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: had problems with alcohol and drugs, they may have run 256 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: into problems with the law, and so we helped them 257 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: do a true life reset. Many of them have been 258 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: through shorter programs to no avail, and so some of 259 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: them are on their last lap around the track. Seen 260 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: many a suicidal veteran come through our door, and it's 261 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: just great to see these high risk veterans turn into 262 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 3: healthy veterans and be prepared to give back and do 263 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: something good for America. 264 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: The range of the veterans who. 265 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's generally our youngest I think is twenty 266 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: eight right now. It's generally from thirty to fifty. And 267 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: I've I've found it interesting most of the folks that 268 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: come our way that have fallen on these tough times. Uh, 269 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: they got out of the military and they said, I 270 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: can handle this all by myself. I can handle PTSD, 271 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: I can handle depression, I can handle this and that. 272 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: And then they'll they'll find that they often crash and 273 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: burn they couldn't handle it, and they'll bump a couple 274 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: of times on the pavement before they come to their 275 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: senses and say, I've got to get some very intentional help. 276 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 3: And it's going to take more than a fly fishing 277 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: trip or a weekend retreat. Those are good, but it's 278 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: going to take an intentionality and that's what we offer 279 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: for these folks. We're also you might I know Tunnel 280 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: to Towers is well known up in your area. Tunnel 281 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: to Towers we're one of their official service providers. And 282 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: the way we help them is we say, our intellectual 283 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: property is how do we rewire the brain, reshape the heart, 284 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: restore the soul. And you know, we can put people 285 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: in houses and that's useful, but if you don't help 286 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: the person in the house that's under these at risk 287 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: conditions do a true life reset, then you really haven't 288 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: helped them over the long term. So that's how we 289 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: complement what Tunnel to Towers does, and we have had 290 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: quite a few Tunnel to Towers people come to us 291 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: over the last two three months. We get about a 292 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: referral a day, which is how we operate people from 293 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: all across the country. We've had people from fifteen plus 294 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: states that have come to our property and gone through 295 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: our nine months program. 296 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: And you're located in Alta, Vistaa, Virginia. Sounds like a 297 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: wonder program. National Center for Healthy Veterans. You can find 298 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: the website Healthy Veterans dot org. Major General D's thank 299 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight. Love to have 300 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: you back maybe at some point in the next couple 301 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: of weeks, particularly if things tend to wrap up, just 302 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: to maybe do a little post war analysis with you. 303 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: I hope it's hope it gets concluded sooner rather than later. 304 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: I know that there are a lot of stories out 305 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: there now about how that we find ourselves in a quagmire. 306 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: And I think this is like saying to Franklin Roosevelt 307 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: on or about December thirtieth, nineteen forty one, in the 308 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: war over Yet. 309 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, right, that's a good point. 310 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: A lot of work, a lot of work to do, 311 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Major General. I hope we get a chance to talk again. 312 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really enjoyed our conversation, and 313 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: thank you for what you do. You're doing God's work. 314 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah you too, dance, Thank you, take care, Thank you 315 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: very much. 316 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: All Right, we come back. I'm going to open up 317 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: the phone lines and give everybody a chance to talk 318 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: about we haven't talked about what's going on in Iran. 319 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: President Trump has basically stood down for a few days 320 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: here and has said he's not going to destroy the 321 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: oil reserves of Iran. He's not going to hit their 322 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: their structure, their infrastructure. But ten days. It's not quite 323 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: ten days, it's April sixth, but it seems to me 324 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: that he will. He will not be well advised. If 325 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: you make a threat, if you deliver, if you make 326 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: a promise, you better deliver, in my opinion, particularly when 327 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: you're dealing with an enemy that is as dedicated as Iran. 328 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: I would love to hear your assessment of where we 329 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: are now, where you thought we were the forty eight 330 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: hours of the first two days, and where you think 331 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: you'll be where we will be a few days or 332 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: a few weeks from now six one, seven, two, five, four, 333 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: ten thirty, six one, seven, nine three one ten thirty. 334 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: I do get a sense, and I will say this 335 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: that some people who do not like Donald Trump don't 336 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: seem to be anxious to see this to be a success. 337 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: And whatever you think of Donald Trump, I hope that 338 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: you will see this as something that will be a 339 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: success for the United States but also for the Iranian 340 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: people to get rid of this this secular, theocratic dictatorship 341 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: which has ruled the roost in the Middle East for 342 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: forty seven years. And I think its time is up. 343 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: We'll take a break. All you gotta do is dial 344 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: the phone six one, seven two, five four to ten 345 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: thirty or six month, seven nine three one ten thirty 346 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: the latest on Iran and your your most recent thoughts. 347 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: Have you changed your mind or have you dug yourself 348 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: in well? Coming back on Nightside. 349 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: It's Boston's News Radio. 350 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: All right, So we are getting close to the end 351 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: of the fourth week of this engagement with Iran. There's 352 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: less specific information that we're hearing. The President continues to 353 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: make his points. As a matter of fact, he talked 354 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: today at a cabinet meeting and Rob, do you have 355 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: the SoundBite? It's a minute in twenty four seconds long. 356 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: It should be the one that Karen Bussemi sent you. Good. Okay, 357 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: this is president the president today talking about he He 358 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 2: had this attitude yesterday that Iran had sent him a 359 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: present or had sent us a present. And I don't 360 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: think the public enjoys hearing being teased. And today he 361 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: talked about it. And I still haven't seen much support 362 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: for what he claims to have happened, that ten oil 363 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: tankers have been allowed by Iran to go through the 364 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz. But listen to the president and again 365 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: realized that yesterday he was talking about this and saying 366 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: he wouldn't tell people. I don't think that is helpful 367 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: in terms of what they are trying to communicate. In 368 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: my opinion, this is the president today. 369 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 4: We have very substantial talks going on with respect to 370 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: Ran with the right people. You know, I told you 371 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: about a president, right, Steve, can I reveal the president? 372 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: You can't do anything, they said to show you the 373 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 4: fact that we're real and. 374 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: We're there. 375 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: We're going to let you have eight boats of oil, 376 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: eight boats, eight big boats of oil. 377 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: This was two days ago and they'll sail up tomorrow. 378 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: That was three days ago, and I. 379 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: Didn't think much about it, and then I watched the 380 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: news and they said a very good anchor actually. 381 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: Happy to be Fox. But I watched it and they. 382 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: Said, something's unusual happening. There are eight boats that are 383 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: going right up the middle of the Hormo straight. Eight 384 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: big tankers are going loaded up with oil right. And 385 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: I said, well, I guess I guess they were right, 386 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: and they were real, and I think they were Pakistani flagged, 387 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: and I said, well, I guess we're dealing with the 388 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: right people. And actually they then apologized for something they said, 389 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: and they said we're going to send two more boats. 390 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: Ended up paying ten bars. Yeah, there's something about that 391 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: story that that doesn't seem you know, genuine. I don't 392 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: think knowing what I and I don't know as much 393 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: about the Iranian government as I assume the United States 394 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: government knows. But uh, it doesn't seem to me that 395 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: that that makes much sense. I'm seeing stories from NBC 396 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: here that Iran has has now imposed a Tehran toll booth, 397 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: forcing some tankers to pay millions to leave the straight 398 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: of Hormuz uh and this this I again, I I 399 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: don't want the President to play games in this The 400 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: New York Post is saying that certain oil tankers are 401 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: making it safe through the state of the Strait of Hormuz, 402 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: but it says has allowed dozens of vessels, all tied 403 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 2: to countries that still purchase Iron's crew, to escape the 404 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: perils of the shipping lane, while thousands of others remain 405 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: stranded in the Persian Gulf. So that is inconsistent with 406 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: the way the President put it. The fact that they 407 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: were Pakistani flagg vessels makes sense. I don't know. I 408 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: hope that President Trump is not being played here, and 409 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: that's fairly strong statement for me to make. I hope 410 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: he's successful. I hope we are successful. It says. Indian 411 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: and China linked vessels, according to New York Post, appear 412 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: to be transiting or staging for transit. Well, virtually all 413 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: other commercial traffic remains blocked, so that doesn't sound like 414 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: much of a presence. Well, I got a bill in Pennsylvania, 415 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: bill your next night side welcome. 416 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 5: Hey, thanks Dan. I got a couple of points there, okay, 417 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: One that the cost of crude tonight was ninety four 418 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: dollars two. 419 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: Now, other than the number, give me what that number 420 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: says to you, that's a little lower than it was before. 421 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 5: I believe, yes, yes, no, I mean all these people, 422 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: all these experts. 423 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just asked you all. I was asking you 424 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: to do a bill. I'm not challenging on I'm asking 425 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: just to put it in context so people know, because 426 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: to some people a number like that means nothing. Go ahead, 427 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: explain what you mean. 428 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 5: Well, it was it was ninety four dollars. Okay, then 429 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: it's still holding the line pretty good as far as 430 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 5: what it was in twenty twenty two. It was one 431 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 5: hundred and forty dollars under Bie. So that's one point. 432 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 5: The next point is I see the United United Kingdom, 433 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: Now let's our be Fifty two is fly out of 434 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: out of out of England, all right? And number three 435 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: is I just saw the NATO, the guy that's a 436 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: charge in NATO saying that there's twenty two nations now 437 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: that they're stepping up and going to be sending. So 438 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 5: when he delays this by ten more days or whatever, Dan, 439 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 5: this is to line all this stuff up, and there's 440 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: gonna be a showdown in the straight or her moves 441 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 5: and we're gonna win it. 442 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: Well, if there is a showdown. Obviously, I want us 443 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: to win it, There's no question about that. I just 444 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: what what troubles me is there's there's shop car troop 445 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: carriers that are headed in that direction. I think that 446 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: would be a mistake if he tries to land troops 447 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: on Iranian soil, because I don't think we have to 448 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: do that. I think you do what you got to 449 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: do and you get it over with. That's that's where 450 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm coming from in this one on Bill. I mean, 451 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: just I don't like the game that was played yesterday. 452 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: They've given us a big present. It's it's it's worth 453 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: a lot of money, but I can't tell you what 454 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: it was. You're a big Trump supporter. Did you feel 455 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: that helped him or hurt him yesterday? 456 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: Uh? 457 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 5: Well, with with the people that I hang out with 458 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: Dan and we know that Trump does what he wants 459 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 5: to do. 460 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about look at it, look at it 461 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: from across the country. Do you think that more people 462 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: went to bed last night saying, Gee, I think he's 463 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: he's he's dealing straight with us. I think he's doing 464 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: what he has to do. But I just think playing 465 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: a game like that. 466 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: Doesn't well our side. Our side looks back at at 467 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: Joe Biden walking around in circles at the White House 468 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 5: and having to having to Easter Bunny, have to show 469 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 5: him where to go. 470 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: No, I understand that. But but that's but that's not 471 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: my that's like saying. Look, what I'm trying to say 472 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: to you is you can support President Trump, and you 473 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: can support his actions, but you also can comment when 474 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: he when he plays a game like that, I think 475 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: that's a mistake. You know, the American peoples look, they 476 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: look for clarity, they look for direction, they look for guidance, 477 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: they look for leadership. They don't look for someone playing 478 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: playing a hide and go seek. And well, we got 479 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: a prize, but I can't tell you what it is. 480 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 5: And and Dan, Dan, anybody that's watching this, uh, this 481 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 5: act for the last few weeks knows for sure that 482 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 5: our military is is just taking these people out whenever 483 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 5: they want to. Now, if you listen to if you 484 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 5: listen to the legacy media and some of the politicians, 485 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 5: some of them up in your neck of the woods, 486 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 5: we're losing this thing. 487 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 6: I understand that thought. 488 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: But but the but, Bill, the point I'm trying to 489 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: make is the politicians in our neck of the woods, 490 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: or the national media whatever that that you might see 491 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: you or watch, they're going to present their points of view. 492 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is I think that the president and 493 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: you're not buying what I'm saying, so that's fine. What 494 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying is when he says, well, we know we're 495 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: talking because we were presented with a wonderful prize, a great, 496 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: big present. It's worth millions of dollars. I'm not going 497 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: to tell you what it is. The American people don't 498 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: either either tell us the truth or or don't comment. 499 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: In my opinion, that is that people want to be 500 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: dealt with. They want to be dealt with. 501 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: Okay, I'll agree with you there, Dawn. But I'm gonna 502 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 5: tell you what more. Yeah, I agree with you there. Okay, 503 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 5: but more people out here, okay, want to see our military. Okay, 504 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 5: get the get the you know, nobody's our military is 505 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 5: doing a superb job and nobody's telling us about it. 506 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think that that's what I want to hear 507 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: the President talk about. I'd like to see more videos. Uh, 508 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, just just be honest with us, 509 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: don't play games. It's as simple as that this is 510 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: not something you want to play games with. 511 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: Okay, before before I leave, I gotta yeah to thank 512 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: you for having that general ds on. I'm retired military 513 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 5: and that guy, what he's doing with for our for 514 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: our troops is outstanding. 515 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: I think, absolutely no question and thank you for your service. 516 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill. We'll go take quick breaks six months 517 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: seven two six seven. I have a lot of questions 518 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: and I hope some of you have some comments and answers. 519 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. Back on Night's Side, right 520 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: after the break. 521 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray and Boston's News Radio. 522 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: Let me go to Bob in Rhode Island. Bob, let's 523 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: try to keep it rational. 524 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 6: Go ahead, Bob, Okay, Dan Uh, I don't know that 525 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 6: much about Iran. I know that what thirty five thousand, 526 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 6: the regime killed the people of Iran, and I think 527 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 6: that was horrible. If that's the reason Trump went into Iran, 528 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 6: the United States went into Iran to do to straighten 529 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 6: them out, I think that's a good purpose by Trump 530 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 6: and the military people. 531 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: I think he said it's a factor, but in honesty, 532 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: I think his concern, his ultimate concern was whether or 533 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: not Iran would ever get a nuclear weapon, and he 534 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: has made it very clear that Iran will not get 535 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon on his watch. 536 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 6: But I do came in go ahead. I'm just saying 537 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 6: in June he's hold up. 538 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: But the massacre of the people thirty two thirty thousand, 539 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: thirty five thousand that you referred to as something that 540 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: I think is a factor. I think that is a 541 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: factor that has also pushed him to do what he did. 542 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 6: Go ahead, Yeah, I thought he said back in June 543 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: when they military bombed the uranium deposits in the mountains, 544 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 6: they supposedly obliterated the uranium reserves, that would it would 545 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 6: be taken him a long time to get a nuclear bomb. 546 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 6: Now it's a little more than six months later with 547 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 6: he's doing the same thing again. So whevery did he 548 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 6: lie about? How much? Do you actually think? 549 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: So I'll try to explain it to you what the 550 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: Iranians told Witcough and Kushner when they were negotiating that 551 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: they have I think it's four hundred and sixty grams 552 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: of enriched uranium, which would give them the potential to 553 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: develop uh eleven nuclear warheads. Now that's what they said. 554 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 2: Because the American negotiators was saying, we don't want you 555 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: to have, under any circumstances, nuclear weapons. The the the 556 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: the Iranian government played games with President Obama. They were 557 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: dishonest with those negotiation. Those negotiations. They they feel they 558 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: need nuclear weapons to succeed. We promised that we would 559 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: give them nuclear power. But but but they cannot have 560 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. That's I think that's that's the sticking point. 561 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 2: And I think if Iran continues to try to delay 562 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: and and and play games with Donald Trump, they will 563 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: regret it because I think that at some point he 564 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: will lose his patients and he will do whatever has 565 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 2: to be done to Literally. 566 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 6: That'd be good for tumb receiving the Nobel Peace Buys. 567 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 6: I mean, b rights Iran that that's a factor in 568 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 6: his mind. He's so very better that he can't get 569 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 6: it this past year. 570 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's a factor in his mind here. 571 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 6: I think the factory problem with the Epstein files, ice 572 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 6: problems in the United States, Venezuela, and yet this is 573 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 6: a distractions. 574 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: I wish you could put aside your disdain for Trump, 575 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 2: which is understandable, okay, and look at this as a 576 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: military adventure. Is it is it justified? Will it benefit 577 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: the United States? Will it benefit world? Peace? Would be 578 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: better if Iraq, if Iran had a nuclear weapon, had 579 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: the ability to manufacture nuclear weapons, or they didn't have that. 580 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: And I think that that if he can take Iran 581 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: off the stage as a nuclear player, I think that 582 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: would make him a more viable candidate for a Nobel 583 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 2: Peace Prize. 584 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, but how about Russia and China? Are they going 585 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 6: to react? Well, if I were in and gets obliterated, 586 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 6: do they Maybe? I don't think they have a dog. 587 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: In that fight. I don't think they have a dog 588 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: in that fight in my opinion. Really, I think that 589 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: Russia and China. I think Russia is concerned about Ukraine, 590 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: and I think that China's concerned about Taiwan, and they're 591 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: concerned about things that that affect them. I don't think 592 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 2: that they they look at Iran as as someone who 593 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: will who will work with them. But I don't think 594 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: they're going to try to take on the United States. 595 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: But we'll see. Bob good call. We we got through 596 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: the call. I'm up on my my news break, So 597 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: you're not going to swim tonight. And I appreciate you 598 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 2: taking the time. 599 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. 600 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: I have a good one. Okay, we'll be back six one, seven, two, five, 601 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six seven, nine, ten thirty. I want 602 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: to know how does this end. The other question I 603 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: have is right now, who do you believe? Do you 604 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 2: believed Donald Trump or do you believe the leaders what's 605 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: left of the leaders of Iran? Some of you I 606 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: know will not believe Donald Trump under any circumstances. We'll 607 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: be back on night Side after this