1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: We're done in six minutes because we have UK basketball. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: So let's get to our guest. Our guy, Sean Saya 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: at the Stats and Schemes newsletter Summer Sports dot Com, 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: joins us every single Tuesday to ride the hamster wheel, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: that is talking about the Bengals defense and schemes and 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: how they fix it. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: And Sean, it's good to have you as always. How 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: are you. No, it's great. 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: Every week, you know, it feels like the Bengals come 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: up with something new. It's not always positive, but yeah, 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: I do want to start off with saying I like 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: watching DJ Turner play football, so I don't want to 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: make sure I said something positive on the radio. 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Bad this time, you know what, But put DJ Turner 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: on film for me. Tell me what you like about him. 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: I think he's a good corner. He's competitive at the 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: cash point. I think you can put him in multiple schemes, 19 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: whether you're playing that deeper cover three, while you're playing 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: that kind of in the cornerback space sort of cover 21 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: two type look and look, he's improved I think in 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: his years in the league so far. So it's nice 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: to see, you know, you can take something positive away. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: I look at all the grades, and then when I 25 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: go at the film, it's like, all right, well, you 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: can remember early in the game against the Bears, you 27 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: have that nice uh pass deflection on a throw at 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: to Caleb Williams's left. So look at us, just just 29 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: feeling good and fine on this Tuesday. 30 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, so there's a building block. There's a building block. 31 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: The problem is it's it's building blocks singular and not plural. 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: They traded Logan Wilson, they didn't trade anybody else. We're 33 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: not surprised because this is sort of how the Bengals 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: do things. But put a GM head on reasonably, what 35 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: would you have given the Bengals for Trey Hendrickson? 36 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: Well, well, it's probably good. It's gonna be a shorter thing. 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: I think you you you start the call at a 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: three uh, and then the obviously the Bengals say absolutely 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: not that. Give me a one. No, I would I 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: would get say maybe a two. You could talk me 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: into throwing a second round pick you're away. But I 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: have to assume there were conversations about it. I think 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: just giving them the benefit of the doubt there, But yeah, 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: it did feel like, all right, well, you're at a 45 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: point in your season where I don't ever want to 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: be like, oh, you know you're tanking the season. 47 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: It's all over. 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: But you have a resource that you can get a 49 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: bunch of draft capital for. You know, what kind of 50 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: move can you make? So you look at the Jalen 51 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: Philip trade, for example, with the Eagles, where that pulls 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: a third round pick, and I think that's like the 53 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: absolute worst that you do in that situation. I think 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: you should look at Hendrickson as a full step of 55 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: from Philip. So you know, I had to feel like 56 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: at least the second round pick. I think a first 57 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 3: round pick would have been unreasonable, even though obviously that 58 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: would have loved for that to happen for the Bengals. 59 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: You could be honest on this show, Sean, It's it's over. 60 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: You could you could say it here, We're not gonna 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: get it's it's they're three and six, they couldn't stop 62 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: you and ten of your buddies. 63 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: It's over. It's like, it's. 64 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: Funny because we look at it, and when I watched 65 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: the defensive film, it's like, all right, well, I could 66 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: criticize and be like, well, this scheme is kind of 67 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: simple overall, Damn. Football is the game of blocking and tackling. 68 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: It really really is. That is what it is, and 69 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: it is a game where the Bengals have not been 70 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: great at tackling. I think they missed like fifteen tackles 71 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: and then there was like over one hundred yards that 72 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: the Bears were able to have after those mistackles. So, uh, 73 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: drop whatever you want on a whiteboard. 74 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Now. 75 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: If you're not able to tackle on the NFL, it's 76 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: unfortunately going to be a pretty long. 77 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: Day exactly Like I've talked about this this week. The 78 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: problem is there's no nuance to it, right, Like I 79 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: love to explore things that Al Golden can do with 80 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: his personnel that can amplify the pass rush or help 81 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: them in coverage right, or or bring out some area 82 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: of their defense make them better against the run. They're 83 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: they're bad at everything right, and they're bad at the basics. 84 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: They're bad at tackling. And so when there's only one 85 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: building block and every unit has deficiencies and they're not 86 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: good at anything and they can't master the basics like 87 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: bringing the ball carrier to the ground, I bring you 88 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: on to talk schemes. It's I don't know, I don't 89 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: know where you start. And that's that to me is 90 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the frust I like talking about strategies and personnel and 91 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: the nuance of football. 92 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: There is no nuance to this. 93 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, But other than that, than all of this, I 94 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: looked forward to say, you know, like for the rest 95 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: of the season, like, well, what are your building blocks? 96 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: Like Turner? I feel good about where Turner is. Now, 97 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: let's look at the younger guys, like what are you 98 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: getting from Osai, from Stewart, from Hill just as you 99 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: go through the rest of the way, Like, you know, 100 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: you have to decide are your young linebackers, but these 101 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: are the guys you're gonna go forward with? Or is 102 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: it you know next year we're gonna kind of be 103 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: in the spot again because you know, the clock's ticking 104 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: a little bit on this whole entire organization. It feels 105 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: like I hate the idea that I got to sit 106 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: and watch that awesome Joe Burrows Super Bowl run and say. 107 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 2: This is awesome. 108 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: This is a wildcard. I think it was a wildcard 109 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: team right that made that Like are they going to 110 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: be able to get back? And if the answer is no, 111 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: that I mean it's gotta be heartbreaking. Like it really 112 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: is when you consider all the talent on this team. Obviously, 113 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: Now do I think this is a situation where hey, 114 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: go be the Jets and and literally sell every single 115 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: thing you have and just stop pile picks and really 116 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: run this kind of experiment to the end. No, it's 117 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: obviously not like that, right, Like there is light at 118 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel. But I'm sure you know 119 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 3: everyone is getting a little bit tired of saying, oh, 120 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: well next year, ah well next time. Oh if this 121 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: guy stays healthy, maybe things will be a little bit different. 122 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, music says the clock is ticking on us, Sean. 123 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll send folks to the stats and scheme newsletters, subscribe 124 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: at suomer sports dot com s U M e R. 125 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: And maybe sumer Brain has a solution to what ails 126 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: this franchise. 127 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's awesome to have you as always. 128 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut our time short, but well, well 129 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: I'll have something to complain about next there's no game. 130 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk about good teams since good teams played 131 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. 132 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: That would be fun. Appreciate it. My talk soon.